19: "Let's Begin" & "First Learn Stand" (S4E1&2)

[00:00:00] Hmm? Ah! Hmm. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? Oh, hey man. Got in early to knock this sucker out. Smooth as a Smurf's ass, right? That deck was the perfect teachable moment. You just tanked my entire week.

[00:00:20] Kids know they're here to learn karate. You don't need to trick them with chores. I'm sorry, what was your lesson plan? Line them up and throw forward strikes all day? I go by feel. Some days I'll toss them in a cement mixer.

[00:00:31] Other days, I'll find a hornet's nest for them to kick. Let's not do this, okay? Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast. I'm Jason. I'm Richard. And I'm Reema. This is House Podcastica Cobra Kai Edition. Cobra Kai! Yay! This week we're covering Cobra Kai Season 4, episodes 1 and 2.

[00:01:02] Let's begin and first learn stand. Then learn fly. It's about time. Yeah. Yeah! Yeah man, it's been like a year I think. No, it's crazy. Somebody on the podcastica group was like, I'm like okay here you can put your comments on the first couple episodes of Cobra Kai.

[00:01:24] And he was like, Cobra Kai is the one show I would think you wouldn't need a podcast about. And I'm like, what? I was like, wait a minute, what? Why? Like well clearly you haven't heard our many podcasts about it.

[00:01:37] But also, I mean A, if it was just funny then it would be like our Ash versus Evil Dead podcast where we just repeated all the lines and laughed. Yeah, totally worthwhile. We sometimes do that. I'm gonna do it this episode. But also, it's such a smart show.

[00:01:53] It's all about loyalty and ego and pride. And I was thinking mostly it's about empathy and looking at other people's perspectives that you may have written off. It's all about that which I really think is very cool.

[00:02:08] It's a smart show and there's a lot to say about it I think. A lot of gray area and how people behave just like in real life. Absolutely. People acting like humans. It's for once. I'm glad to be back. I'm glad to have you guys back on.

[00:02:26] I've been waiting for this. Probably my favorite show to podcast about. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I mean I'm podcasted about a whole lot at this point. So this episode it's Cobra Kai season four episodes one and two because we do two at a time.

[00:02:44] Let's begin and first learn stand. And you know, I really feel like two at a time. Like we could totally do a full on podcast about just one episode. But then we would have to wait even longer to finish watching it.

[00:02:58] So I say we stick to two at a time. It's hard not to watch ahead. Yeah, and I think it's worked really well for us in the past. So yeah, I think it's good. Okay, so what did you guys think of these two in general?

[00:03:13] Rima, what'd you think? I thought it was great. I liked how we kind of picked right up where we left off from season three. I mean, it's like, let's begin. Awkward pause. Okay, what are we supposed to be doing?

[00:03:29] Wasn't that the last thing they said in the last episode? It was funny because it was a big powerful moment. But then you see the aftermath like you didn't tell us what to do. Yeah. It's funny. I thought it was a great, great way.

[00:03:45] So they always just have a way of starting it off that's just, you know, it still seems fresh and it doesn't to me at least feel old at all. So I loved it.

[00:03:57] I thought it was a great start and a lot of great lines, a lot of great callbacks. So yeah, I think just great as always. It's what I expected and it's what I got starting off. Yeah.

[00:04:08] When I watch it the second time through, I realized they were setting up, you know, a lot of things to come in the next few episodes. So I was really excited about that. I'm like, ooh, how's that relationship going to work? Ooh, how's that going to work?

[00:04:21] They did a good job of pepper it in there too. So you weren't like overwhelmed right at the beginning. Yep. Yeah. And now I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of them. Yeah, I thought it was really good.

[00:04:34] I mean, season two, I think is my least favorite so far, but it's still great. But I was worried that maybe they just can't be as good as their first season. And then I thought season three was almost even better.

[00:04:48] And these two first two episodes are any indication they have figured out how to do this show because I thought it was really good, really fun, funny as hell. They figured out the formula. Yeah, the formula. I'm surprised they're still able to like recontextualize and reconfigure things

[00:05:05] from the original movies in ways that are still entertaining and feel fresh and fun, like having Johnny go through the freaking Miyagi treatment. Yeah. What a great idea. So I just want to mention to you in case there's people who are listening

[00:05:21] because you've jumped on since we covered Cobra Kai last, we have covered all of the other episodes two at a time like we're doing now. So we do two at a time weekly. We welcome any feedback on our Facebook page and you can email us and everything.

[00:05:37] And we also covered all of the movies Karate Kid one, two and three. And especially for season four here, I highly recommend going back and watching Karate Kid three, even though it wasn't a great movie.

[00:05:53] Just because it has Terry Silver in it and he's going to be in the show now. And he's the best thing about the movie and list to our coverage too, because we really dug deep on that one and found some nuggets there. So anyway, I definitely recommend that.

[00:06:09] Absolutely. Yes, Terrence. Terrence, darling. He's a dapper cultured fellow. All right, let's get into our points. Rima, what you got? Well, I'm going to pick up right where you just left off there and say Terry Silver has entered the chat. Or Terrence, sorry. I thought it was great.

[00:06:34] I mean, we knew from the end of season three, or at least had a really good feeling of who Chris was calling there at the end. So we knew. And then I think it was leaked later before the season came out

[00:06:49] that he was going to be in it. So of course, we were all pretty pumped for that. So I love that we get him pretty early on. I love that when he he's playing the piano,

[00:07:00] which total maestro by the way, I mean, didn't know that the dude was so talented. He's just, you know, plugging away at the piano and he gets that call and he picks it up and it's from an unknown.

[00:07:10] So he picks it up and as soon as he hears Chris's voice and he just hangs up on it. Nope, nothing. It's like a telemarketer. That is not how I expected it to go at all.

[00:07:23] I guess I still cut, which was silly because I feel like they do a great job of kind of changing your perspective. Absolutely. And I don't know why I assumed that we were going to get the same exact

[00:07:35] Terry Silver, but that's who was going to be on the other line. So I love that he just like hung up on him. I was like, Oh, I wasn't expecting that. That was a good move. You know, how's what's this going to look like?

[00:07:47] So I love that we got that straight away. And then when Chris confronts him and, you know, at the party when he's like, you know, oh, I'm going to go follow up on this, you know, I'm going to get him involved somehow.

[00:07:57] So he, you know, actually goes to his house and, you know, they go through the party and they get through that whole, whole part, but when they're talking later, one of my favorite parts was how much Terry acknowledged how ridiculous the plot of crying kid through us.

[00:08:10] And I think it made total sense. And I think it made total sense. And I want to get your y'all's opinions on it, that he was like blaming or partially blaming cocaine for his behavior and like bullying a teenager and getting involved in like this high school drama.

[00:08:27] You know, I thought it was great how he just, he called it right out and said how ridiculous it was. And I'm like, that makes perfect sense. So I want to get what y'all thought about that because I'm sure you have some thoughts too. Yeah.

[00:08:40] Well, Terry Silver is one of my points too. He had probably the best line in the entire series when he was talking about the 80s. He says, I was so hopped up on cocaine and revenge. I spent months terrorizing a teenager over a high school karate tournament.

[00:08:57] What do you say? That sounds insane just talking about it. Yeah, that's funny. They're good at poking fun at themselves. Yeah. Well, they're poking fun at the people who made Karate Kid 3. Yeah. But rightly so. Yeah. And yeah, I'm with you on that, Reema, because he was playing

[00:09:17] the classical piano in the very opening scene, you know? And for me, that was like, oh look, he's been living the good life, you know? He's been refined, I guess is a good way to put it. So I was like, oh, that's interesting.

[00:09:31] And then we see him hosting the cocktail party like I'm going to go out and a bunch of other artsy fartsy types in there. You can see that he's been far removed from the old life, from his Coke-fueled days of tormenting teenagers. And dumping toxic sludge. Maybe.

[00:09:47] Maybe he still does that. We don't really know. So he increased this whole time, went there to see his buddy and I think he was kind of disgusted by all of this. He's like, come on, what happened to the Cobra Kai guy? And I like that.

[00:10:02] I like that the writers didn't give us the old silver right up front and that he's rejecting Crease at the moment. And I think they're just going to slowly let his character unfold, probably convoluted. I hope so. They do, yeah. And then he'll be there.

[00:10:18] He'll see the return, yeah. So for people who didn't watch Karate Kid 3 and you just saw this kind of reserved fellow, cultured and they did show little clips of him when they were talking about, when he mentioned his Coke-fueled days.

[00:10:39] But here's just a short clip to give you a taste of what he was like. Hey, anything else you want? Yeah. Make his knuckles bleed. Hey! Hey, I like that! Oh, I like that Johnny! I'm going to use that! You know he was coked up right then.

[00:11:09] Makes perfect sense! Hey, I like that! He's in a hot tub while he's saying it. Right. All right, well I'll do my Terry Silver Point too. I love it because I'm looking forward to this season particularly because he's going to be in it.

[00:11:25] So I like that he was the first person you see but you don't even see his face. He's like a piano, like a virtuoso. And I was hoping before I watched that they wouldn't do the Cobra Kai thing and severed our expectations with Terry Silver

[00:11:40] and humanize him because I want the crazy, insane, filthy, rich, over-excited version. You know, I don't think I've ever said this about anyone before but get that Mansa more cocaine! But after having watched it, I feel like you're right, that's where they're going.

[00:11:59] I'm glad he's still rich with this beautiful, beautiful modernist beachfront home and that they'll build up to it because I think Chris probably woke up the Cobra Kai within him. I thought I'd give a quick recap. They were Vietnam buddies. Chris saved his ass many times

[00:12:18] and Karate Kid threw... Well, I don't actually remember too much about it. I should have went back and watched the Cobra Kai but we got flashback scenes of them going through hell together. Over the snake bit and such. Yeah, but in Karate Kid 3,

[00:12:32] Terry Silver was this rich businessman whose business was apparently dumping toxic waste and bribing officials to look the other way. And he had like an English butler and all this craziness. When he found out that Chris is... Basically the events of the first Karate Kid

[00:12:52] that Chris's Cobra Kai students all left because he disgraced himself at the tournament by having his kids cheat and be overly aggressive and also losing and then beating up his students in the parking lot. So it was his own fault. Terry Silver took a break from his business

[00:13:06] to focus on humiliating Miyagi and Daniel. He posed as a nice guy, Karate instructor and offered to train Daniel for the tournament while at the same time training the bad boy of Karate, Mike Barnes, to go up against him and humiliated him at the tournament

[00:13:23] and he was also making Daniel... He was injuring him by making him punch and kick hard pieces of wood until his knuckles bled and then Mike Barnes beat the shit out of Daniel in the tournament, but Daniel won on a technicality with one wimpy punch. Great movie.

[00:13:44] And so in this episode, Terry Silver acts like Chris was a bad influence on him but he's really the one egging everything on in Karate Kid. Like, Chris is ready to give up and Silver's like, no, we're gonna make these guys suffer.

[00:14:02] You go on vacation, I'll take care of it. He was hell bent on revenge for whatever reason. Yeah. So now he doesn't like Chris anymore and yeah, it's an unknown number, so clearly they're not in touch. They haven't spoken to each other in a while.

[00:14:17] I'm trying to figure out why he's mad at him. And then there's a conversation. I don't know what to do about it. But he says, something. Yes. He's like, let's say we were supposed to finish what we started and Silver says,

[00:14:33] finish what we started just like we were supposed to do 35 years ago before he vanished. So that made me think, Oh as he just matented him because he was still rare and to go but Chris dropped out. But then he says after the tournament he hit rock bottom.

[00:14:48] I don't know man. It was Terry Silver doing all that, not Chris. They both hit rock bottom because even Chris said he was in a pretty bad place too. Right. I mean that's what happens in this crazy Karate Kid universe when all everybody's

[00:15:03] lives revolve around these tournaments that happen back in the 80s when you lose and ruins your life. Well you got two guys like this with giant egos and everything to prove and then you get beat by one wimpy little kick from some little scrawny teenager. Sure

[00:15:17] you're gonna hit rock bottom. Yeah, life's over man. Back then here's an example of Terry in Karate Kid 3. Miyagi and that punk kid I'll get them for what they did to you. They made you suffer so I'll make them suffer when I think they've suffered enough then I

[00:15:32] start with the pain and Chris is like Terry you don't have to do that. Don't have to. I want to. It's not over. We're Cobra Kai. Come on say it Cobra Kai and Chris goes never dies which I think is the first time that was ever

[00:15:44] said in a karate kid movie and now it's repeated a lot on the show Cobra Kai and so I think it's cool that his line Cobra Kai never dies is being tested here has it died in him. He's changed. He's cultured. He's a penised.

[00:16:00] He's got a lot of servants in Karate Kid 3 like here but he and he wasn't necessarily disrespectful to them but it did seem out of character here when he helped that one with the tray you know and he was a racist back then.

[00:16:14] Yeah. He repeatedly called Miyagi a slope in Karate Kid 3 which is a highly derogatory term now he has this girlfriend Cheyenne who's played by Salome Azizi who's part Iranian which maybe indicates he's changed or tried to change you know maybe I don't know. He's eating vegan tofu skewers

[00:16:34] that are organic dipped in cilantro cashew sauce which I would totally want. It's good. Chris looks disgusted. He's got these friends who say things like you have a Habsburg jawline. Yeah. What the heck was that?

[00:16:50] It could be. He seemed to like it but kings and queens of the Spanish Habsburg dynasty in the 16th to the 18th century had this distinctive facial deformity this elongated jaw something it was a result of centuries of

[00:17:06] inbreeding but I don't think that was the point of the guy saying because he said perfect you know I think he was just admiring him. You have an inbred jawline. Yeah. I think it was a sly way of insulting him so

[00:17:20] Chris wouldn't get it because if Chris knew he was insulting him he'd lay him out so I think it's looking down on him or something like that. It's an elite way of looking down on someone. Could be.

[00:17:29] The actor wasn't playing it that way I don't think but maybe yeah but then Chris is like what nice new friends you have Terrence which means what the fuck dude really and then Terry sponsors Cheyenne's mindfulness app which I think Daniel would appreciate but Chris

[00:17:44] thinks is a waste of time and and Silver yeah says you know he regrets how he was back in the 80s so I don't know. Chris thinks Terry has forgotten who he really is when the Habsburg

[00:18:00] jaw guy says I didn't know you had a karate phase. Chris is like he's not a phase it's a way of life yeah it never leaves you you can leave for a while but it never leaves you and he says I

[00:18:12] was in a bad place back then but I'm back now and you can be to just trying to bring him back to hey Cobra Kai never dies remember yeah and then he talks about when they got back from Nam we went through hell watching our friends die only

[00:18:25] to be welcomed home by a bunch of hippies calling us killers. I think that hippie is like and now you're with this artsy fartsy crowd like you guys said with their meditation apps and their organic food you're hanging out with these people

[00:18:40] yeah and he says people needed to learn some respect some discipline that's why we started Cobra Cobra Kai together we made a difference I love how they tile this together we can do it again there's a whole new generation out

[00:18:51] there that can use what we know this reminds me of Johnny he's calling kids pansies all the time and telling him asthma is all in their head and stuff like that you know or even in this episode he's saying to Daniel as he's training him all

[00:19:04] your life the world's been trying to make you less of a man light beer veggie burgers automatic transmissions might as well let another dude bang your chick. So Chris Chris thinks Terry has become overly domesticated and neutered by progressive attitudes forgotten his roots

[00:19:22] so is is was Chris successful well I think he had some impacts seem like you had the most impact when he said you know people expect men of our age to pack it in and go off into the sunset that might work for you but I still have

[00:19:37] some fight left of me please thank Cheyenne for the tofu I feel like that last line really got to it and then maybe a little when he said the only thing standing in our way is Daniel LaRusso. Oh Danny boy. Yeah Danny boy. I like that.

[00:19:55] That was a good callback and when Robbie is telling Cobra Kai but eventually we all need to look ourselves in the mirror and realize who we really are that superimposed with Terry eating a salad as Cheyenne says Terrence would you be a

[00:20:07] darling and get a bottle of Montrache from your seller then he goes down to the cellar and his violin music that was in Cobra Kai three ramps up and he just spin kicks a bottle of wine into the wall.

[00:20:20] So I feel like yeah he's it's woken it woken up the Cobra Kai seemed exhilarated. Chris got to him. Yeah he kicked it and it went all over his expensive painting. Right man. You're right down there. Probably very nice bottle of wine too.

[00:20:37] Yeah well it's weird because it's a Cayman wine and Robert came in. Yeah. It's an Easter egg. Karate Kid one two and three. He now has vineyards up in Sonoma and winery and he makes came wine and I'm like that's kind of disrespectful

[00:20:54] but then again Terry Silver is a bad man. I guess that's why I don't know. Oh it's like an Easter egg. Yeah. Yeah but you're like deface you're destroying this guy's product. It seems disrespectful to me.

[00:21:06] Yeah he did that to the wine and Daniel did it to the beer bottle. Yeah. That's right. Yeah they've always been sort of back like reflections of each other. But and speaking of Daniel like I really hope we get the old Terry back or something like that.

[00:21:21] It'll be a shame if we don't and I can't wait for Daniel to come face to face with him now that that'll be great and then also to see how he is with Johnny because they've never met before in the movies or anything.

[00:21:33] That actor it what's his name. Thomas Ian Griffith. He's actually younger than Daniel. Yeah. Yeah. Then Ralph Machio Ralph Machio. He's one year younger. That was amazing right now. I he still yeah he definitely looks older than Ralph

[00:21:53] Machio now but back then when he was supposed to be Creases Vietnam buddy and Daniel was this little kid it seemed even weirder to find that out. Yeah. He's so much bigger. More athletic and everything. Anyway that's my thoughts on Terry Silver returning.

[00:22:14] Can't wait to see what happens next they didn't have him in the second episode. That's fine. Yeah. That's OK. It's like Rich said kind of like a slow build up. Yeah. You know let's see see where it goes.

[00:22:25] See what happens you think we're going to get slow burn. Mike Barnes. I don't know. You know what I was thinking is the introduction of the new kid new new kid Kenny. Yeah. You know he might be a third party and all this

[00:22:37] or not him but maybe whoever his older brother knows. Well I think his older brother knows Robbie. Yeah. Is it Robbie. Yeah. Yeah. So this kid's going to meet up with Cobra Kai but I my guess would be that Mike Barnes will show up for season five. Hmm.

[00:22:55] You know I'm sure they'll bring him back. I mean they're bringing everybody back. That's true. So he would be the last one right. Oh until they bring back what's her name from the next karate. Hillary Swank. Yeah. Hillary Swank. I don't think I see that one.

[00:23:13] You don't want to watch that's even worse than Karate kid three. I guess if she comes back we'll have to watch it on the next House podcast. I know there's at least some one or two people in the group who like that movie sorry guys. Hmm. OK.

[00:23:29] Remo what's your next one. So I want to talk about Kenny and Anthony since Rich just mentioned Kenny this might be a good time to bring up that point. We get this new kid Kenny and it took me a hot minute

[00:23:41] to realize I don't know if it was like that for you guys too when he got on the bus that that was Daniel's kid Anthony. Yeah he got. Yeah. I was like whoa wait a minute. He showed up last season and I already had that

[00:23:55] reaction like he's one episode though. Yeah but I was like look he's going to be back for years to little kids. Yeah. So I recognize them right away. It took me a minute because we only I only remember

[00:24:08] seeing him in like one scene and one episode and then I just completely forgot about him. I felt like Daniel I completely forgot about this kid looks like they're finally going to give him the story. Yeah. They're finally going to get his own kid. I know.

[00:24:19] I thought they were going to chuck him you know from Chuck from happy days where after the first two seasons they just forgot they had another son. Yeah like yeah like they just have the one child. Yeah it's kind of what I was waiting for but I'm really

[00:24:33] interested in this new storyline that they have with this with this new kid and I think it's interesting that they have Anthony you know kind of being part of you know the boys that bully other kids at school which as I mentioned you know maybe he wouldn't be

[00:24:48] such an asshole if his dad actually acknowledged his existence. But I like how this storyline and and again I'll be interested to hear what you guys have to think or have to say about it and if you agree that this

[00:25:01] storyline at least for me kind of mirrors the original cry to kid with Daniel and Johnny and Ali we even had the chase in the park when those bullies were chasing him after he dressed up in his little cosplay and was running away from them.

[00:25:15] It was like that scene in cry to kid where Daniel was running away from all the Cobra Kai's and left over the fence except Kenny actually made it over the fence and then I was thinking about Leah is an anagram of Ali. Oh yeah.

[00:25:29] So I like there's like this little love triangle that they have going on with Leah and Kenny and Anthony how they both like her and Anthony didn't really. He just looked at her in when they were playing basketball right and you could tell he liked her.

[00:25:44] I think that was it. Yes yes yeah absolutely. Yeah so I think there's going to be a little bit of a mirror thing there and then of course when we saw Kenny finding out who his older brother was there in juvie which we know him and Robbie kind

[00:25:58] of struck a friendship after they disliked each other. Clashed at first but then they gained respect by beating each other up right and not being snitches not snitches each other out and so yeah I'm thinking oh crap now

[00:26:09] this Kenny kid is going to get drawn into Cobra Kai and how's that going to you know play out throughout but I like this new I thought for a minute I was worried because we're Cobra Kai so full of so many characters

[00:26:21] we have so many characters and there's always so many storylines but I think they they flesh it out so far really well and I'm interested to see see where it goes. So all right I'm an idiot. I didn't realize that his older brother was the guy

[00:26:34] that was in prison. Yeah that's him with Robbie now that you said that I was like oh my gosh I'm so stupid. I knew him from so many characters. Yeah there's a lot of characters lost. Well the problem is I thought I knew him from the

[00:26:49] other show he's on that you podcast about the walking dead right he was in that. I don't know maybe there's a lot of characters on that show. I've only watched a handful of episodes but I think the ones I watched he was in it.

[00:27:03] I'd like to look it up. Well I think this kid Kenny I didn't look the actors name up but he's so good. He's really likable you know and especially what they have him doing playing games and doing all the things

[00:27:18] while I don't dress up in cosplay but I like looking at you know cosplay I think it's fun and cool and yeah he's just a really like before they beat him down he's got his headphones on and just dancing in the street and

[00:27:33] he was so happy when he was. Leave him alone he's just vibing to his music haven't we all done that I mean I used to walk down middle school. I know kids are assholes and I think you know it's

[00:27:49] just like Cobra Kai to have Daniel LaRusso's son be in the bully crowd but the little curly headed blonde kid is like the Kyler just to straight up your bad person and Anthony was a little hesitant about it sometimes and you

[00:28:06] know I mean that's not a huge excuse but that's kind of what they do with all the characters they have their bad sides on their good side so I wouldn't say I think Anthony is a little bit hesitant about the stuff they're

[00:28:17] doing but other times he's a straight up dickhead. So yeah I felt that way to he like would have these pauses yeah I felt like almost he's like hey wow me and this kid are a lot of like yeah because I'm he plays that game I'm

[00:28:30] pretty sure that he didn't want to admit I did what I did about it. Yeah right yeah and then his friends were right there to be like come on what are you doing stop being nice but this one curly headed kid is the one that's like

[00:28:42] egging everybody leader yeah he's like Kyler did just cave in under peer pressure I mean I kind of you know do sympathize with Anthony a little bit it's not right that he is going along with it and he's also contributing to

[00:28:55] the bullying of this kid but you know it's peer pressure is it is such a strong thing for kids that age and rich I'm sure use a teacher probably see it so much more than yeah and how awful it is and how much you know how hard

[00:29:10] it is for kids in that peer pressure even today. So I mean it's it's a psyche situation kids are just jerks and trying another kids in with them and this kid was so likable and you know now he's probably going to get hooked

[00:29:25] up with Cobra Kai and I feel similar to how I did with Miguel at first like all those kids seems like a good kid don't go there but so I don't know I'm toward between thinking the show is repeating itself a little

[00:29:38] versus doing what it always does which is recontextualize things that have come before but this time it's something that's come before in the show. Yeah, you think maybe that's going to be another subplot. I do I think getting the even younger generation in on it

[00:29:53] now yeah it's going to consume the entire LaRusso family. I liked this I liked Kenny in this episode I was interested in all that stuff felt so bad especially like when he was connecting with what he thought was

[00:30:07] Leah online and at first I was like oh that's so cute and then right before they showed the kids that it was really them I was like this isn't right. It's not even her. It's too good to be true.

[00:30:19] Yeah, yeah and then she barely noticed him at school the next day. Yeah, they had me full because I really didn't think it was her. I did it first. Yeah, and then yeah had that bubble burst and I was

[00:30:31] like oh man I was like that's so dirty poor kid. He just wants someone to connect with being the new kid and stuff that's I can relate. I've been a new kid in a new school and not had you know just feeling like you know just don't connect

[00:30:44] with anyone and you're so different from everyone and I just made me really bad for him. I mean it is very much like Daniel coming to LA you know yeah next week wouldn't be surprised if we see Kenny going the school sucks. Hate this school. Oh, my God.

[00:31:07] You are home. You were born here. Yeah, well it sucks his dad's away sounds like he's you know serving somewhere his older brother I'm sure he probably looked up to is away in juvie his mom sounds like she's not around a lot of kids all the time. Dad.

[00:31:23] Yeah, she's working and he just kind of left left to his own. He you know was getting himself up for school in the morning like he was up before his alarm even went off playing this game. You know taking care of himself and then home after

[00:31:34] school and stuff and that's poor kid needs a little direction and I hate hate to see him get sucked in. I'm the wrong side. Yeah, like Miguel at parents absentee parents he turns to his older brother. Yeah. Okay, what's your next one Rich?

[00:31:52] You know we learned a lot about what motivates the Cobra Kai members in these last two episodes you know we learned you know crease pretty much laid it out finally and more directly than ever before he said yeah you got crease what we got with Tori

[00:32:08] and Robbie and they all kind of laid out why they're doing what they're doing right crease talks about when they return from Vietnam I think Jason you mentioned it. No one gave them any respect called him you know baby killers and stuff like that and then

[00:32:20] that's why they decided to start Cobra Kai right so it kind of like boils down to crease wanting to teach the whole world respect and now only Danny boy is standing in the way so we got to get Danny you know and then crease also says you

[00:32:36] know it's not about a trophy it's about being a champion and he mentioned that a couple of times in the show and that's going to follow you for the rest of your life and then he points out you know look what happened to Johnny who didn't win

[00:32:48] and look what happened to Daniel who did win right you know that kind of thing little flaw there which one was your student crease and then Tori you know he's kind of taken the road most traveled by kids who have a shitty childhood

[00:33:05] you know he's become single minded hell bent on revenge she's very vengeful person she just wants to hurt other people kind of like how she's been hurt Robbie he's feeling Unloved by dad and now Samantha now this was pretty cut and dry so kind of a

[00:33:25] fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me kind of thing so he's just going to go to the strike first side but for me you know these two episodes kind of really laid it out on why Cobra Kai

[00:33:34] exists I was pretty impressed how they peppered all that into the episodes there. I agree. Yeah then on the Miyagi do side it was just you know Daniel saying that you know it's a it's a it's a calming you know it's a defensive

[00:33:51] it's what do they say they're no be there. But he also said we need to win so we can show the valley that Cobra Kai doesn't Cobra Kai doesn't work right and I'm like yeah what all six of them I mean what do

[00:34:02] you mean the whole Valley there's like six students in the classroom. You notice that there's only six because he says what's that guy the original. Tyler yeah said that half the squad yeah after left right so there's not a lot of students maybe they'll get more yeah.

[00:34:21] No but I think it is I like what you just said because we wanted we you need two sides for this story to work and so you need people on both teams and so they decided that Robbie and Tory and Kyler and who

[00:34:37] else are on the Cobra Kai team and so yeah we want to know what would make someone go over and be on that. Yeah well you have to spend more time justifying that because you know most people are going to agree with their with their teachings.

[00:34:51] Yeah way of life should break into someone's house and try to get out their daughter increase confence you know increase confronts Amanda and the grocery store easy like right there to defend and justify why Tori's psycho and you know her violent

[00:35:04] tendencies it's like OK I guess I guess we understand why now so she can keep you know hurting people and be the bad person. Right but I always come back to this line even in other podcasting about other shows I've mentioned this line that Samantha said I think

[00:35:19] last season it was something like yeah everyone's got a sob story but that doesn't mean you have the right to be a bully. You know. Yep my turn. Yeah I'll talk about Johnny and Daniel trying to work together. It's funny that they clearly did zero planning or

[00:35:40] prep before starting their first lesson. No communication happening there. I'm sure I guess they both assumed Daniel probably assumed OK well he's me I'll get dough now and Johnny just was doing his own thing. Right. It was really fun to watch him struggle and try

[00:36:02] to integrate their two styles Daniels like the All-Valley Tournament is just a few months away and this year the stakes are higher than they've been. We know that Cobra Kai is going to use every dirty trick in the book there's only one way we're

[00:36:13] going to be able to beat them Johnny by kicking their asses so hard they shit themselves. You're going to take things to the next level going to teach you an aggression stronger than anything Cobra Kai could throw at us they strike first will pre-strike pre-strike.

[00:36:31] They pre-strike will pre-strike pre-strike Daniels says OK we're getting ahead of ourselves we're going to respond to what they do Johnny says Eagles do not respond they swoop down and take whatever they want that's what we're going to do take back

[00:36:44] the Valley take it back in a measured and organized approach. Then they decide to train them separately which it makes sense until you figure out how to train them together you got to train them separately or let one person train all of them but they're

[00:37:04] not going to do that their Eagles are too big so I thought well that makes sense but I'm I'm disappointed because I want to see how you can integrate the two styles if that's at all possible. Yeah that's what I assumed they were going to do

[00:37:17] like right me I'll be teach defense and then you know Eagle teach offense and I think they will do that eventually I think that's where they're headed but right now so Daniels back to being a total like the worst version of himself a self-righteous hothead he's teaching breathing

[00:37:36] techniques and saying don't let your emotions control you and yet he's super easily triggered. Hey right I it was funny that he's like now everyone close your eyes and relax and you hear outside stop pointing like a little bitch and get up.

[00:37:54] Stop being a pussy and punch in the face breathing breathe out so he goes out there and he's all they're arguing and I wonder if Daniel will find peace by the end of this but it's too early in the series for him to be totally put together

[00:38:11] you know he's got to have places left to go. So then I like that Miguel got Johnny to reconsider because Johnny wanted to quit after that but to reconsider working with Daniel by mentioning Rocky three magic of rock references yeah Apollo

[00:38:27] helped him and so then he's Johnny picks up the phone and starts rehearsing his apology to Daniel but then Daniel comes to the door and apologizes first and Johnny's like well you should be sorry. Yeah almost the word for word apology

[00:38:41] is going to say right and then they're drinking beer and arguing and realizing it's not going to work and it felt like it's a divorce you know they're gonna have to tell the kids. Yeah I like that they just decide this isn't

[00:38:56] going to work yeah keep drinking beer right. Got at least finished the beer they were like kind of on the same page there it's like yeah that's the only time they're on the same page. Yeah and they do they get on the same page every

[00:39:07] once in a while which is kind of fun. But then who was it was it was this one no the thing with Hawk happened at the end of the first episode first episode or the second episode. Where he can't remember beat down the fence.

[00:39:30] I think it was the second yeah. Yeah I had to be the second because yeah. Yeah so what happened here because they decided you know hey you don't respect my karate I don't respect yours let's teach each other styles for a day

[00:39:44] which was really fun to watch and talk about role reversal Johnny gets the Miyagi treatment. It makes sense to do that since they're trying to work together so they should understand each other's karate their techniques you know so I love watching Johnny he's bored by painting the

[00:40:04] house side to side look maybe you can do this but I can't defense is boring offense will always be more badass and then Johnny chops off the top of his beer to show him that he does know some exciting moves yeah and reminds him yeah how

[00:40:23] did you do that and reminds him that Miyagi karate saved his ass from crease a few weeks back when I think that's twice Daniel fought crease yeah that wasn't the first time and shows beginning of karate kid to and Miyagi fought crease

[00:40:39] and so he's like okay and nobody's more badass than Mr. Miyagi alright so he starts paying right again that was interesting how he inspires Johnny to continue by bringing up all the times Miyagi dough kicked Cobra Kai's ass right when he didn't bring up is when

[00:40:53] Miyagi kicked his ass when they were in that skeleton costumes oh yeah the Halloween yeah it's funny how everyone's catching on how to talk to Johnny I know Mr. Miyagi was a badass Johnny's like hmm okay okay yeah be like Rocky three

[00:41:08] alright alright so then Daniel gets the eagle Fang treatment techniques include shoving hot coals and then walk I mean shoveling hot coals and then walking on them climbing a chain fist push ups and hitting baseballs from a pitching machine but what I loved most about this was

[00:41:26] that Daniel got into it yeah he's hitting those ball baseballs and when he's climbing the chain he shakes his fist yeah come on you know you're supposed to shovel the coals into the furnace question my techniques and then he Johnny instigates

[00:41:49] a fight between Danny Daniel and the hockey team that was hilarious and then the idea was for each of them to gain an understanding and respect for each other's methods I they definitely got an understanding I don't know about respect

[00:42:03] Johnny says so you respect eagle Fang and he goes yes in the same area respect a madman with a nuke and Johnny says I'll take it but in the fight with the hockey guys Daniel struck first and he used a lot of offense with his fist his

[00:42:19] feet and a hockey stick so you wonder if he'd have been so quick to do that if he had just spent a day with Johnny you know training all that stuff and also at the same time Johnny was practicing no be there

[00:42:33] so such a good call back yeah that was so good so I was thinking okay now maybe they can integrate each other's styles like Robbie he's doing that with Cobra Kai I mean Robbie when he went in there and he was like if you

[00:42:52] if any of you can land a punch then I'll leave and until the end they couldn't and I thought well I think the point of that was to show because this is all about defense versus offense right and it was to show that since

[00:43:04] he's learned Miyagi do style karate he has great defense and they couldn't land a punch on him and so then he starts teaching that to them but the main difference in the systems is about whether to strike first and how much

[00:43:17] to focus on defense and off versus offense and in Miyagi's karate like all the waxing of the cars painting the fence and the house was all about blocking so defense and then Daniel learn balance standing on the bow of the boat which apparently

[00:43:32] he still has that boat and Chris barfed in it and Daniels like I want to learn how to punch and Miyagi's like learn how punch when learn how keep trying shakes the boat so he the offense was saved for later even the crane technique that Daniel

[00:43:49] saw Miyagi doing and said can you teach me that and he goes first learn stand and learn fly that even that I wouldn't necessarily I don't know if you consider that offensive well it's definitely reactive because you have to wait until someone's coming at you to use

[00:44:04] it you know right and Chris says their entire style is reactive which means all their moves are counter moves that means we are in control and we can use that to set traps and even the drum technique I think it was about blocking and counter punching so it

[00:44:19] was reactive like like that was reactive Chris says yeah I think the one move that was more aggressive was just Daniel breaking the ice you know and I guess it's the same move that you make to break the bottle tops just like a sideways child right yeah

[00:44:41] then Eagle Fang on the other hand slash Cobra Kai I mean we don't really see them doing anything except punching and learning to have no mercy and strike first and beat the shit out of each other as Johnny explains it it's about attacking leading

[00:44:57] growing into men and embracing pain yeah being strong being tough so can they integrate those two I mean or are they mutually exclusive I would say that you can learn offense and defense but you have to decide where that line is about

[00:45:15] how much aggression to have and whether to strike first and go for max damage and stuff like that so they're going to have to both maybe compromise a little bit and find a level that they're not entirely comfortable with yeah that's a good point things

[00:45:29] you know the standing joke and I keto is if you had two I keto masters face off they would just stand there and nothing would happen that's kind of what was happening when Daniel is having a student circle around each other and

[00:45:45] is like one of them needs to be provoked and so it was like are you provoked throws a bottle maybe it should be you know strike second but strike to kill or something like that yeah I mean in a tournament

[00:45:58] you don't have to strike first you can wait no but I guess if you got two people just waiting forever than the timer might run out nobody any points yeah comes a point you have to do something because that's how you earn your points is by your strikes

[00:46:11] so if you're both just standing there and circling each other it's gonna be like a draw yeah so do you think the idea now is that they are going to learn to integrate the two styles yeah they're gonna have to I mean otherwise they're gonna be training

[00:46:28] separately right and that wouldn't make any sense and I mean based on what happened with Hawk where he's rebuilding this platform like the old ancient Miyagi one I forget what they called it but in the suit that seem to have brought all the students together and

[00:46:44] Johnny and Daniel were about to tell them it wasn't going to work but they were like yeah that's a good idea kids and seem to be inspired by the kids I felt like that meant that the kids are sort of

[00:46:53] leading them like at least like parents who are going to divorce but the kids are like no no stay together guys right well they probably intuitively know to that their best chance of winning is if they get both sides yeah

[00:47:06] I do think it's going to be an important part since you asked a question and this was what I was going to talk about anyway was how these both of these techniques and fighting styles are going to have to come together and I think it's really important because

[00:47:19] Johnny knows he and he's calling it Eagle thing but it's it's Cobra Kai it's what he knows and that's what he's he's teaching I mean it's really important for the kids under Miyagi dough to understand that so they can it's very important to understand your opponent

[00:47:33] and know how they fight and anticipate what they do it's only going to you know whether or not they use the techniques themselves or not they'll at least know how to anticipate it'll make them better fighters just like Robbie's teaching Cobra Kai

[00:47:46] exactly and that's that was my point as well as you know now Robbie is teaching Miyagi dough so they can you know they'll they'll know their defenses how they're going to like be defending themselves so they can anticipate they may not actually use Miyagi dough or you know

[00:48:01] use it in their style but to understand what they'll do makes them better fighters as well against their enemies and I loved how the kids came together at Miyagi dough and Eagle thing and kind of knew I mean they weren't making a

[00:48:14] big secret of how they were disagreeing you know they kept kind of bickering in front of the kids and you know about their different techniques and how they were going about things and they could see that it didn't work for them

[00:48:24] to be together in the first place that they had to separate them and everything right so they they saw that and I think the kids wanted it more than Daniel and Johnny did like they're like oh well we tried and just failed we're

[00:48:35] done then but the kids really want it to happen and so they took the action to do that so I think that they're going to have to figure out a way to do it together they're going to have to find a way to incorporate

[00:48:47] both in the trainings I think they'll figure it out I don't know how yet but I think it's I think they will and they're going to have to and I think it was really significant that it was Hawk that spurred it on

[00:48:58] because Hawk was such I fucking hated that kid right he was terrible you know I was a dick hurting everyone yeah and and then he changed sides during the big fight at the end there and felt bad for his friends and everything

[00:49:13] and now he's shown up to this place where he knows he's done bad things to everyone so it's kind of a brave move for him to show up and keep apologizing and I don't blame the kids for me mad at him either

[00:49:26] no I'm glad they called him out on it I'm glad that they didn't just say oh you said you're sorry okay all is forgiven you know but they could have been a little little cooler about it not just like get out of here

[00:49:37] but just like dude you're gonna have to hurt yourself or something well even Daniel though I think I think Daniel was a little over the line a little bit with what he said to Hawk I was like dude yeah because he was trashes house yeah he trashes house

[00:49:50] it's a good point I know that's why I like this show because you could be like oh that guy sucks well actually you're right maybe he's not so bad oh no he really does suck but he just got in a fight with Johnny Daniel and he was agitated

[00:50:03] right then Hawk after they said get out once you go with your eagle fang buddies Hawks like hey Mr. Lou so can we talk what I don't know where I fit in here well what'd you expect you've burned bridges with pretty much everyone here and that

[00:50:16] was just a hot headed reactionary response right and he knew it right in the moment that he blew it but it was too late and then Hawk comes back with and when he Hawk was looking at that poster or not the poster the old ancient

[00:50:27] right me agi thing I was like yeah you don't respect their stuff get away from that I felt like that too like you stay away from those artifacts so then he comes back with a sledgehammer which is a great fake out like what's he

[00:50:38] gonna do and then he's hitting like the iconic fence that Daniel always paints fuck you dude but it turns out that me on he happens to have a big giant space even further out than we've seen where they're gonna and so anyway

[00:50:49] my point was just that this kid if he can be the one that really feels like it's important to bring these people together after what he's done and he's trying to turn over a new leaf I think that was just a good person to have do

[00:51:01] it because it would be especially inspiring to everybody I guess I don't know but yeah plus we have to be convinced it's for real what do you know I mean I know I guess he could switch sides again yeah yeah I believe

[00:51:17] chances but not third the the Cobra Kai dojo didn't forget either they actually said something about him switching sides it's like why did you get your butts kicked or something like that when Tori was telling them you know hey you guys got your asses kicked and he's

[00:51:32] like whoa that's because a hawk switch sides right so now they're now they got a long memory about it too yeah yep and I'm sure that's gonna come up again to mm-hmm face off yeah mine was the same Johnny and Daniel learning each other karate and I don't

[00:51:50] think there's any surprises there you know I think we all knew they probably were gonna butt heads right yeah but yeah yeah like Jason pointed out it's like how they how they resolved their differences which which was the fun part to watch when they were so you

[00:52:05] know the first thing to do is all right we're gonna try and stay together at the same dojo but we're gonna teach you separately and they're like but I thought we were supposed to learn together he's like we are just separately and on opposite ends of

[00:52:16] dojo as far away as we can possibly be and still be on the same right and then they take each take a day to learn each other's karate I guess at this time what if they're not paying any attention to the kids for these two days maybe they

[00:52:30] just do it on the weekends or something yeah but yeah and they you know they were enjoying it like Daniel had that smug smile when he was teaching Johnny the you know the the calming defense of Miyagi dough and Johnny was laughing out loud which was awesome

[00:52:47] when Daniel was getting totally in his training he was like yeah in the abandoned warehouse yeah pretty fun yeah and then yeah then they both applied what they learned which was totally cool as a teacher I really appreciated that Daniel strikes first in his fight with

[00:53:03] the hockey players and then Johnny you know disappears siding Miyagi's no be there I was like that is that was the perfect two days of teachable moments there absolutely yeah hopefully yeah hopefully this they're gonna see the benefits of both teaching styles like

[00:53:25] you pointed out Jason because Robby showing Cobra Kai students how to do Miyagi dough and now we got Johnny showing the Miyagi students how to do Eagle claw which is Cobra Kai so everybody's gonna know everybody's strategy Eagle fan yeah right back at the beginning there where everyone's

[00:53:42] gonna be on the same playing field yeah tournament yeah yep that'll be interesting and maybe that's why they're introducing this third dude yeah Terry Silver yeah evening I wonder if that gives him an egg Terry Silver yeah we'll come in and teach him a few other things maybe

[00:53:57] yeah Terry Silver but then also they might have the new kid Kenny too he seems too small though right he is small like he's you know he's in middle school all the other kids are in high school I don't know I don't

[00:54:11] know how that's gonna work or what's maybe yeah I don't know if he'll be on the team but maybe Robby will teach him to go beat up AJ and say it probably just be a side storyline probably won't he may not be at the tournament

[00:54:24] but probably just side storyline there because at the beginning they said that the All Valley tournament was just in a few months so they are they in high school was at the summertime because Kyler was talking about going to Harvard I don't know

[00:54:39] yeah I don't know cuz I can't remember when it takes place where they were I think they're all still in high school though I think Kyler is just talking out his ass about where he's gonna go when he gets out of high

[00:54:51] school probably dad wants him to go to Harvard okay my next my last point is about callbacks so I love you know we see Terry Silver playing the piano which reminded me cuz I remember when we covered karate kit 3 I made

[00:55:09] a point to say in karate kid one Bill Conti did the score and he's the same guy that did Rocky done and he did this beautiful music during training montages for Daniel which they play for Johnny and it's all soaring and everything as Daniel's giving all his

[00:55:31] lessons so funny but anyway Terry Silver in karate kid 3 got some Bill Conti music but it was more it was violin and it was more aggressive and driving you know but beautiful like way better than that movie deserved but anyway they play it here too they

[00:55:48] play they have him playing the piano and I don't know if it was the same tunes or not but it reminded me of that music but then at the end when he's kicking that wine they play his violin music and I feel like that

[00:56:00] signifies that Terry Silver is coming back to where where he was before Johnny says to Mitch hey penis breath you're up which Mitch was ass face in Cobra Kai then when Johnny started Eagle Fang training in the park he says ass face you're next and Mitch goes

[00:56:20] does my nickname got to carry over from the previous dojo and Johnny says you want to be penis breath and Mitch says ass face is fine and Johnny goes good penis breath so I like that continuity that's from ET oh they called each other

[00:56:36] that the kids yeah the older brother to Elliott called him right or no Elliott told his other brother that he had penis breath my kids were just watching that movie I was like hey penis breath great movie I love that movie Daniels

[00:56:49] got his circular hand Sanders and he's skipping across the back deck rubbing them together and whistling and he's going which is a version of what he was saying in Karate Kid 3 when he first had the I mean Karate Kid 1 when he first

[00:57:08] had those with Mr. Miyagi he's like Krista Krista are you Krista that little tiny detail so cool with Johnny doing his training montage of course he does all the classic chore based training techniques from Karate Kid 1 but he also did the nail hammering from I

[00:57:26] think that was from Karate Kid 2 to teach focus just hammer the nail in with one shot yeah and during that scene Daniel recites the speech from Miyagi walk on left side of the road safe walk on the right side safe walk down the

[00:57:42] middle get squished just like great which I liked but that speech is supposed to happen at the beginning because it's all about okay we're gonna start our training and you need to commit to it don't just be a maybe yeah it

[00:57:54] was funny how Johnny just saw it all as a chore to yeah and brought back his handyman in them too he was like you know you can't put two coats of paint on a house you got a heat gun at first and

[00:58:04] then strip it down yeah yeah I wonder that worked so well with Johnny being a handyman and I'm like wow did they have that in mind when they gave him that job or was it just lucky because he had comments on all the chores

[00:58:19] that were awesome yeah when Daniel says Johnny missed a spot paying the house and Johnny's like you know what screw this it's just like in karate kid when Miyagi told Daniel you missed spot and that's when Daniel got pissed off and said I'm tired of being your damn

[00:58:35] slave and then Miyagi showed him no you've been learning blocking you know by punching at him stuff yeah when he chopped off the top of Johnny's beer just like Miyagi did with those guys harassing him at the beach and Johnny says holy shit how the hell

[00:58:50] did you that in karate kid one Daniel's like how did you do that how did you do that don't know first time Robbie's teaching Miyagi to do Cobra Kai and tells Tori show me wax on wax off whoosh whoosh it's just like Miyagi doing that with Daniel

[00:59:09] that same night and Robbie says show me paint the fence and she blocks a punch and then he sweeps her leg which is a great combination of learning Miyagi dough like in karate kid one and then showing a signature Cobra Kai move from karate kid sweep the leg

[00:59:23] you know yeah that's what that was the first thing that Johnny was teaching his students to yeah at the Miyagi dough is they're going to practice sweep the leg on Hawk and then when Johnny's in his training he's on this big circular platform in the pond

[00:59:43] doing blocks just like Daniel on the bow of the boat in karate kid and finding balance in the music is really swelling and I thought Zabka look just like Daniel doing those same moves you know yeah even had the same demeanor and everything that was really cool

[01:00:00] when Daniel's climbing the chain Donnie Johnny does his trademark quiet on him Johnny's like find your limit and sore past it Daniel's like what does this have to do with quiet keep climbing the Russo I don't know if if you'd really actually

[01:00:17] be able to climb that chain a guy has stick arms man I know I know needs to work out a little bit like you were mentioning Rima when the bullies lure Kenny out into the park at night well they've kind of mixed things around

[01:00:30] because the blonde haired kid says pick him up that's just like when Johnny with Daniel that night after they ripped him down from the fence and Johnny said pick him up and wanted to kick him again he's had enough Johnny but then yeah Kenny gets away and

[01:00:47] he gets over the fence before they can rip him down they go through a hole in the fence that reminded me of when Robbie and Tori and the other Cobra Kai went to steal the Cobra from the zoo I think they went through a hole

[01:00:57] then yeah I think so just a couple more at the hockey game Johnny said to Daniel you're tougher than a primidana I'll give you that sometimes you got to show yourself toughness that word primidana crease used when he said no one touches the primidana until the

[01:01:16] tournament yeah I could one and then when Johnny I mean Daniel finished kicking all the hockey teams asses he was moving left and right with his arms extended and kind of waving around just like me huggy after you beat up all the Cobra Kai kids and

[01:01:32] their skeleton costumes. So they always feel like they must have run out of ways to use all that old stuff and then they they always keep figuring out new ways of doing it. Yeah they're good at that. They're good at the recycling. Yeah these guys are good.

[01:01:50] I'll give it and give that to him for sure. I wonder if they could take another like beloved movie and do this treatment to it. Yeah that would be interesting huh? Yeah I think if they were as passionate about it as what they are the karate

[01:02:04] kid franchise yes I think they probably could but I think that plays a big part I think they're super talented and they probably could do something you know with an older movie like Karate Kid but they're such super fans I think that plays a huge huge part.

[01:02:20] I agree the same with you know when we podcasted on the Evil Dead series those guys are all huge fans yes with the Mandalorian and Boba Fett those guys are all Star Wars nerds to the max you know. Well the Evil Dead guys are the ones

[01:02:34] that made it. Yeah the original. Trio yeah. But yes yeah and I bet you if they're that big a karate kid fans there must be some other 80s thing that they loved to you know I possibly think I think with the way

[01:02:51] that they've handled Cobra Kai I'd be totally open to if they you know when they finally decide to end the series you know move on to something else I'll follow whatever you know they do next because I think what they've done is brilliant. What's your favorite 80s movie?

[01:03:07] Gosh those teen dramas Breakfast Club I would breakfast club I wouldn't mind seeing that get them all back together. Any John Lannis movie. Yeah. Ghostbusters. Yeah Ghostbusters. I'm not that guy with the car Kit. Oh not writer. That was a TV show. Yeah.

[01:03:31] No hassle wait is he still around? House of Huff yeah. He is yeah. The Huff. Last I heard he was passed out from drinking yeah. Okay any notes Rima? Oh gosh what haven't we talked about yet? One thing I thought might have helped

[01:03:50] Kenny just a little bit this kids clearly struggling a little bit being in this new school and you know these boys are picking on him. It would have been nice had the PE coach maybe called Kenny by his name and not new kid maybe try to

[01:04:02] set the tone for the other kids. Yeah they don't do that in real life. I mean I don't believe either that this kid stepping into a bus all the kids would ridicule him either but it's very karate kid that's how Daniel was treated it. Yeah yeah exaggerated yeah

[01:04:19] probably but I was like dude set the tone I do like how the writers have handled crease and that he's not so one dimensional. I like his well not really like how he does it or like that he does it but a style of manipulation

[01:04:35] kind of changes based on who he's talking to and what the situation is. Yeah you know he can be really deceptive and calculating. He can be really smooth you know when he wants to be I thought it was really interesting how he told Amanda she needed to check

[01:04:51] her privilege. Yeah in the store in that scene you know that thought and he kind of had a bad when she found out that yeah has to you know raise herself basically. Yeah and you know I think I've said repeatedly since Tori has

[01:05:09] come onto the scene and we've kind of learned about you know she's had a pretty rough life you know it doesn't seem like her dad's around she's raising you know she's got a little brother right and then her mom is sick and she's basically working to

[01:05:22] support her family and that's pretty rough but it does not give you you know an excuse to be an asshole or bully. Especially to the degree that she did exactly I mean she definitely takes it to the extreme she's not just angry like she wants to hurt people

[01:05:35] you can see how she was taking her aggression out on that dummy when she was punching it and stuff I mean that girl has some like serious anger issues. She does she needs some some help but I do at least understand what's driving that yeah and

[01:05:50] by no means gives her an excuse and I don't blame Amanda also for being pissed off I mean if if if I was in her shoes and you know that girl who come after my daughter like that I'd been the same way I would have

[01:06:02] been like you know stay away from my kid you know I'll call the cops you can just spend your time in juvie or in jail but you know also I don't know I wouldn't know I can't say how the situation should be handled because I'm not in

[01:06:15] that situation but I don't know I think maybe a little bit of empathy would go a long way and I see Amanda maybe possibly offering Toria job at the dealership I wonder if it'll go bad. She tried she brought her groceries but yeah I mean

[01:06:29] this all ties into the big theme of the whole karate kid franchise of class and wealth you know like Daniel with this crappy car and his single mom trying to find a job and his girlfriend's on lives on the other side of the tracks and here now

[01:06:45] Tori's jealous slash mad at Samantha for all she has to do is show her puppy dog eyes and gets whatever she wants. Meanwhile Tori has to struggle you know. Yeah good call Rima I didn't think too much about Amanda and Tori that's kind of a

[01:07:00] neat little subplot developing there huh. Yeah she like calls Tori a little psycho that deserves no mercy in the beginning and now she's like trying to now she's like feeling bad and apathetic for her and wants to help her I wonder they're gonna have an you

[01:07:13] know some sort of relationships. Oh I wonder if it's going to further divide Amanda and Daniel because Amanda is already like this whole karate thing is stupid you know so yeah now she's going to like taking an even harder stance against all this

[01:07:26] karate because it seems to be screwing up everything in their lives. Fuel fueling aggression it seems not for sure and it was interesting she told oh gosh I always forget the guy's name that works there at the dealership she's like don't tell Daniel anything

[01:07:39] about this so she's keeping you know that from him but I think it would be great to see Amanda somehow get through to Tori you know in the way that Daniel gets through you know to kids and you know maybe I don't know I just wonder

[01:07:55] if she'll be able to get through to her somehow. Yeah you know and kind of turn things around for Tori a little bit and all the while as Daniel and Amanda are helping all these kids they're ignoring Anthony. Exactly. He's out here bullying kids.

[01:08:10] He's going to be the question mark that like goes nuts right. Yeah. Oh crap we forgot about Anthony. Yep. With another thing with Amanda is I like that because she's always the one pointing out why are you fighting what this is stupid you

[01:08:26] know this karate what are you doing but here she kind of has to I mean I totally agree with her but also I want there to be a show so you got to have the karate right and so now in this way they handle that is she

[01:08:40] kind of has to sort of agree. Okay you guys made this deal that if you have this tournament and you win that cover Kyle will shut down and so she feels like like it or not I guess is the only way we're going

[01:08:53] to be safe so that means we don't necessarily have to worry about her through the whole season trying to shut it down right because in real life I would totally call the cops and press charges against everybody and suit the shit out of him. Kidding.

[01:09:05] If you did that of course that no more show. Yeah shows over here's the aftermath they're all in jail and there's a civil suit. Yeah we're going to team up and do the Valley tournament anyways and just put a few cameras in our house.

[01:09:20] All right any other notes rich. I thought it was funny when they were at the Mote at the Miyagi dough and the kid says right after Johnny says the best or no I think it was the kid that said the best defense is a strong offense

[01:09:35] and he kicks that kid and falls back and Johnny's like why do you have a rock in the middle of your dojo. Kid bounces off the rock. That's hilarious. Yeah like I mentioned before I was like what happened to the Cobra Kai dojo there's only like six kids

[01:09:51] in it I posited a couple times and sure enough there's only six people in the whole dojo so that what they're going to enter the competition with or are you going to get more kids. Kind of wondering about that. I'd like to see Terry throw

[01:10:02] some money in there and maybe attract a bunch of people start open up some more dojos or something. I wondered if that was you know when he because I feel like he's coming around right he's going to end up up there somewhere if there'll be some new

[01:10:15] recruiting techniques right along with that. Yeah and then we had a little bit of time with Carmen and it looks like Carmen put the stops on Johnny's relationship with her just a little bit or at least now they brought up Allie Miguel I guess didn't know that

[01:10:34] that her mom and Johnny were hanging out. I know Miguel sitting there talking about it. We so excited. Shut up kid Jesus Christ cock blocker and what we saw last time if I remember right was Allie was open to she was like coming on to

[01:10:52] Johnny and Johnny was chose. No, I I'm into Carmen and rejected her and went to Carmen and then they slept together I think and then they seemed happy but you got to put the kibosh on that same thing with what I was saying about Daniel's personality

[01:11:07] like you got to give these characters room to grow so Johnny can't be in a happy stable relationship right now. No, yeah, it's too early in the series. Right again. That would jeopardize a show but it was it was kind of sad because I like them together.

[01:11:22] Yeah, I like his attempt at cooking an authentic Mexican food. Yes, you know, got the recipe from Chili's right? Chili's website. He started off good if he had just shut up after the tortillas and the fajitas in the store bought mango hot sauce. He's so proud.

[01:11:40] The Ralph's sauce like a little taste of the homeland. Carmen and her mother are like that's as nice but we're not even Mexican. He tried so funny. Hey, that's better than what he's ever done before with his eating it is gross. Ham right out of it.

[01:11:59] It is growth. Yeah, I love that was hilarious. Thank you for bringing that up and he just like throws it and Daniel's face. He goes ham. It's all dripping. Ham juice. He's got like beer and baloney in his fridge. That's pretty much it. Everything he said

[01:12:19] it made me laugh too was the Daniel comes out in the morning you know to make him do the whole sanding with the hand sanding. You know, he's out there with this big ass floor sand. He's like check us out man smoother than a smurf's ass.

[01:12:35] Oh, what'd you do? It was a whole week's worth of planning. Yeah, yeah, I had that down. He's like got in early to knock this sucker out. That deck was the perfect teachable moment. Johnny's like the kids know they're here to learn karate.

[01:12:51] You don't need to trick them with chores. Oh, what was your lesson plan? Line him up and throw forward strikes. I go by feel some days I'll toss him in a cement mixer. Other days I'll find a hornets nest for them to kick. It's so great about Johnny.

[01:13:07] He's a lot sharper than I think some people give him credit for. I don't I do. I do with his big jug of salsa. Yeah. Well, when he takes Daniel to the abandoned warehouse Daniel's like, what the hell is this? He goes, you know, this is how psychos

[01:13:23] and horror movies act. Mm hmm. Good. That's it for my notes. I had some funny lines to Daniel has his kids waxing all the classic cars and that fence gets painted. Those cars get waxed and that house gets painted so many times.

[01:13:43] But then you see Johnny having the kids cleaning out all the crap inside his car. That's right. Clean it good. Wanted to look brand spiky new get those cans out of there. Finding a loose change. It's mine. He is smart. See, he's capitalizing right there. Yeah.

[01:14:00] I like Amanda's security password being Outlander. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Oh, it was funny too. When Johnny was when they were going to teach each other their styles and Johnny spits on his hand and goes for a shake. Daniel's like, no, that's all right.

[01:14:15] I need to shake on it. I'm good. Thanks. Yeah. Daniel says it's time. Johnny and his students joined me and Johnny says, why don't you join Eagle Fang? And Daniel's like, ah, come on, Johnny. Me, I get Oh, has a rich tradition going back hundreds of years.

[01:14:30] You started your dojo. What three weeks ago in a park. I'm pretty sure you came up with the name from this poster. The big poster of an eagle. I was waiting for poster of iron eagle because I know Johnny loves iron eagle. That's true. It's a big eagle.

[01:14:48] I like when I mentioned Johnny says, look, maybe you can do this, but I can't when he's painting the house. Defense is boring. Offense will always be more badass than he holds up a beer and he goes fruit in your beer figures. Chops the top off.

[01:15:05] And then the montage bears repeating again with Daniel's classic inspiring pan flute training music playing while Johnny waxes the cars and Daniel recites the history of Miyake Tokurati and then Johnny standing the floor and Daniel says ambition without ambition without knowledge is like a boat on dry land.

[01:15:23] That's it. Big circles ride circle left circle. I don't think Johnny heard any of that. I know. And then the last one I had for funny lines is when Johnny says the human response to danger is fight or flight. The Eagles response is fight and flight.

[01:15:44] I laughed at that one. I liked this isn't necessarily funny, but Tori is giving Robbie shit for not showing up in this fight at the LaRusso's and Robbie says what were you even thinking that you'd break into the LaRusso's and hurt Sam and everything would be

[01:15:59] sunshine and roses. And like that's a good point, dude. Yeah, everyone says good points and then the other person immediately changes the subject. Yeah. Or answers his question with another question. Right. They don't really address it. I was thinking that.

[01:16:19] Well, I wonder if you like Robbie more now, Rima, because I know he hasn't always been your favorite. You know, I even though he's seems to have joined the Cobra Kai side, I do like him a little bit more. He's he's way more tolerable.

[01:16:33] I think you like him more because he joined Cobra Kai. No, because you like the bad guys. I do. I do like the bad guys and he looks like Val Kilmer with his new haircut. Yeah, I was going to say is his hair. His hair. His hair.

[01:16:46] His hair looks. Well, they did a good job last season because they did. They did cut it. They got rid of that terrible haircut he had in season one. But now he joined Cobra Kai. So that's yeah. He's he's definitely more tolerable. I do like him.

[01:16:58] I like him. Yeah, I like him more even though I'm like, oh man, you know, I don't know. I see I see where he's coming from though in his where he's just like, I'm just tired of the bullshit. Yeah, Johnny. Yeah, yeah, that worries me though.

[01:17:12] If they're making all the characters likeable again, what are they going to pull the trigger and do something evil, you know? Yeah. Well, they've still got a few I think Tori even though you can understand her she's so aggressive that it's like

[01:17:25] dude and then this little blonde haired kid. I mean curly haired kid total prick and Kyler. He's never been likable. Oh, they're ever going to get around to him. No. I see him now is more just a big goof. Just a I guess he's a bully, huh?

[01:17:43] Yeah, he's a bully. He is. I mean, when he's in Cobra Kai, he's got people who push back on him though, but at school he's just yeah, just giving everybody shit. Yeah, big bullshitter. I see. All right. That was really fun. Let's take a little break.

[01:18:00] There's more to come. Stay with us. Yeah. Oh, why don't we? So just one small news item this week. I did come across an interview with Thomas Ian Griffith who plays Terry Silver thought there were a few pieces of that that were kind of interesting.

[01:19:06] So I thought I'd just kind of mentioned them here. So this is from Men's Health and they start off the article saying when Thomas Ian Griffith made his debut playing the psychotic baddie Terry Silver in Cridakid 3 when he first heard of Cobra Kai, he was completely unimpressed.

[01:19:21] He says I heard they were doing a TV show based on the Cridakid series and thought, oh my God, this will be a disaster. That's what I thought too. Yeah, to be fair, I thought the same.

[01:19:31] Yeah, I was going to watch it no matter what, but I'm like, this is going to suck. Yeah. So he says my wife and I tuned into YouTube one day, watched the pilot episode and we were blown away. We just benched the first season going, this is smart.

[01:19:46] It's irreverent. It's funny. It's nostalgia. It had all those great ingredients and they said when it seemed more and more likely that his character might take or might make his way back to that recede a strip. Maldonzo, he wasn't sure what he wanted.

[01:19:58] He says I was on the fence. It's like, how are they going to bring this bigger than life character to this world? How would he fit in and what has he been doing for the last 30 years? He says when creators John Hurwitz Josh held and Hayden

[01:20:12] Schlaasberg contacted me, we did a zoom and they answered all those questions. They had mapped this incredible, incredible backstory. So I guess he kind of already knew and that is what talked him into it. So they did ask a couple of questions.

[01:20:27] They said, cry to kid three was your first movie role. How did you get involved initially? And he says, well, I was late to the audition. My wife was like, oh, just go late show up, tell them what you're about and get the hell out of there.

[01:20:39] He said so I went in and the casting person was like, well, you miss John Evelson who's the director. But he's on the set screen testing actors at Warner Brothers. If you go over there, you can meet him.

[01:20:47] So I went over there and met him, I waited while they were screen testing read a scene with him and he liked something he saw. He said stick around until after the screen test. I want you to do a little scene with Ralph Machio who was

[01:20:58] on the stage testing the other actors. So I went to walk on at the pages in my hand and John took them away and said just go improvise the scene. I did and we had fun. And then he said, I'm going to call your agent.

[01:21:08] We're going to set up an official screen test to come back. And he said, well, I was like, Tom scene Griffith was in there going, I like that. I like that. Yeah, I wonder what he improvised. But he's me on coke.

[01:21:22] I did a few lines beforehand and he really liked it. Well, yeah, it was the 80s. So who knows? Right. He said, I was like, well, what role is it? Because there was the Vietnam vet and there was that bad boy of karate. I was 20 29 at the time.

[01:21:37] I was like, well, which one am I doing? He says, don't worry about it. Just come back and then they sort of they sort of rewrote it and created this character this bigger than life character. He says, I give John credit because he took a chance on

[01:21:49] an unknown actor and just said go for it. Rolled the dice with me. I remember just saying is this too much? And he just said, just keep doing it. I want every kid in America kicking you in the shins. That's interesting. They rewrote it because

[01:22:04] I think Martin Cove was supposed to be the villain. But then he was busy with something, you know, Chris was supposed to be the villain. But then he was busy with something. So they created Terry Silver, but I don't know the exact story. Yeah, because they shared.

[01:22:19] I think Terry Silver had more screen time than Chris, right? Way more. Yeah, Chris was very sure did. Yeah, he was off getting massages. Right. Chris was came back at the end to get his ass kicked by Miyagi did. So they asked him another question, which I thought

[01:22:34] was interesting because this was something I was curious about. They said, what was your karate background at that point? And he says I grew up, I, he said, I grew up studying it. It was my sport through high school. I got involved early.

[01:22:45] I was getting into scraps in the schoolyard all the time. My mom was a dance teacher and one of the little rumbles as we called them, I got in as a kid. I saw a kid from the city throw this spinning hook kick

[01:22:55] and I was like, wow, what was that? So he took me to the north end of Hartford where he trained and it was like this very strict Taekwondo school and they pulled back the curtain. They were going up and down roles with such precision.

[01:23:06] It was like this was fantasy for me. Unbelievable. I just became addicted to it. I just loved it and ended up being such a part of my life still to this day because it crossed over to all my disciplines.

[01:23:16] It gave me that focus and discipline a way to live my life. And he talks in the article about how active he is like trying to be in shape by coming back and being on set and having to do karate all day on Cobra Kai

[01:23:30] and how he's, you know, active every day. He makes it a point to do something and be active every day. I mean that that wine bottle kick was pretty great and pretty damn good. Yeah, back in for like what is he 57 or something and

[01:23:43] back in karate kid three you could tell he they picked a guy who knew karate. He was like one of the best they we'd seen on the show. Yeah, absolutely. And then one last thing they said there's a lot

[01:23:57] of bad guys on Cobra Kai Terry Silver being one of them but also John Crease and Johnny Lawrence. Who's the baddest guy on Cobra Kai? He says, wait a second. What do you mean bad guy? He's misunderstood. I think they all have a past that labels them into

[01:24:11] a bad guy category. Now who will go to the biggest extremes? I think Terry has the most to lose. So I think that makes him pretty dangerous and also obviously I always say Daniel had just forgiven him that first time that they met he probably would

[01:24:24] have let it go. Terry really wants just that friendship and love in his life like we all do but when he doesn't get that then that sort of propels down this kind of a bad patch. I don't get what if he'd forgiven him the first

[01:24:37] time they met you mean for torturing him for weeks lying to him and making him crazy? Danny boy. Fuck you. I think he was being a little silly. Yeah, no but they well that's what an actor has to do is. Yeah. So that's what their character. Absolutely.

[01:24:53] Sell it. Giancarlo Esposito always does that he's always defending Gus Fring. That's funny. And then the last item I have just really quickly because we always want to know when when's the next season right? I mean we're still watching it but I know so many

[01:25:09] people binged it over the weekend when it came out over New Year's Eve. So ever since arriving on Netflix each new copper-kai season has premiered on or around New Year's and it's you know possible that that could happen with season five because it has been obviously renewed.

[01:25:26] We know there's going to be a season five show runner John Hurwitz tweeted on December 19th. That was just a few weeks ago that filming on Cobra Kai season five was already finished. So even before season four season five. Yeah, it was finished.

[01:25:40] So before season four even premiered they very wrapped season five. Now of course the show still needs to be edited reshoots could happen but with all that factored in I mean I wonder how if we'll get season five a little sooner because it's traditionally

[01:25:55] been at least when it came over to Netflix it's been New Year's Eve when it's premiered. So I wonder if we'll get it maybe spring or summer. Is that too too hopeful? Maybe they'll do season six and just stockpile them. Maybe.

[01:26:09] Yeah, I always just presume it's going to be a year even if they have it in the can. Same thing with lock and key. Yeah, I feel like they're going to make us wait. Yeah, they're like nah too much of a good thing.

[01:26:20] But so we know we're getting season five. It's it's done and hopefully we'll get it soon. But Josh held also said he's also one of the producers and short runners. He did explain that there's more story after season five even though Netflix hasn't ordered anything after season

[01:26:37] five at this point. He does say we have more beyond season five. We're not writing to the end of the series in season five right now. We can't believe we filmed two seasons of the show this year and our minds is crazy to believe how far ahead

[01:26:48] of the story we are than what the audience has seen so far season five is another enormous season with a lot of new flavors and a lot of things that you haven't seen before yet on the show and it's not the end.

[01:27:01] So now I feel like a recovering addict because we got season four is out season five is done and here we are with just the first two episodes. Not too much not too much at one time please.

[01:27:13] I mean, I feel like I always felt like this would be a good five season show. So they're talking about doing more and I'm like, don't ruin it. I mean, as long as it's good, I'm happy to watch more but

[01:27:28] you can't I mean there's such a thing as too much of a good thing. Don't want to wear out your welcome. Yeah. Yeah. You know and I think even though it's it kind of sucks sometimes because you don't want some of those good shows to end.

[01:27:41] You also also feel good about when they go out on top. Yeah. You know when they just have a really good run and then ends and they never even had a dip or anything. That would be awesome. Yeah, the best shows do that.

[01:27:53] Yeah, or at least the ones that I remembered is some of the best shows. Yeah. I mean walking dead how to dip but has come back pretty strong but 11 seasons. They're finally ending it. I just would rather co-work high didn't go through that

[01:28:08] I think but what do I it doesn't matter what I think but it's just what's on my mind. Well and I'm interested to know what it is that they're going to do that we haven't seen yet before.

[01:28:17] They said a lot of new flavors and a lot of things we haven't seen before yet on the show. So it's they're going to all learn Krabmaga. Hey, I'm going as an extra. They're going to drop the whole karate thing and learn underwater basket weaving. That's funny.

[01:28:36] Yeah, that's all I got. Johnny kills Daniel. Kick to the head. Oh my God. Well that went dark. Yeah. All right, thanks Rima. Let's move on to listener feedback. Rima. All right. So Brad Holt says the hockey game scene in episode 2

[01:28:55] was filmed in the ice forum where my daughter used to take figure skating lessons when we lived in Georgia. It was so cool seeing it on the show. That's awesome. Atlanta. Yeah they film in Georgia. Yeah. That's right. Paik Allen writes love that Johnny and Daniel don't just

[01:29:12] automatically work well together. That's going to be a whole process. Great to be back in the world and great seeing a little bit of Terry Silver. He's still got some moves and I immediately loved Kenny. That kid is awesome and I'll fight anyone who wants to hurt him.

[01:29:28] LOL. Anthony stop being a little shit. Your father raised you better than that. Who becomes to the light and saves Kenny from his bully friends in the dark grasp of creases. Cobra Kai. Yeah. Yeah I feel protective of that kid.

[01:29:43] Shay White says so happy you guys are back in Cobra Kai and that the new season is here. Watch the first two Epps and it hooked me once again with nostalgia and comedy love seeing Terry Silver and the flashbacks love the acknowledgement of the

[01:29:57] ridiculous plotline of Karate Kid 3 can't wait to see him in action. My favorite scene was an episode 2 seeing Daniel train Eagle Fang and then beat up the hockey team was amazingly good. I laughed when Johnny told Daniel no be there can't wait to watch the rest.

[01:30:15] Gemma Hall says it's so good to have the show back. I found it fascinating to see an older Terry Silver and a toned down seemingly more sensible guy who was so jacked up on cocaine and anger that I terrorized the teenager for months.

[01:30:28] He seems to have the self-aware awareness of what he did but does he? Hmm. The fight scenes are usual epic Robbie taking down all of Cobra Kai the contrast between Johnny and Daniel's methods is quite hilarious and I think

[01:30:41] that might be a theme of the season going forward. I can't quite believe how different Anthony LaRusso is his voice is so deep looking forward to your podcast on it. That's awesome Gemma. I'm glad they're giving Anthony some some plot here. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Me too.

[01:30:59] He's getting a lot of callouts. Okay. Cool. Let's see what Steve Brown had to say about it. Hello House podcast is Steve and this is going to be for Cobra Kai season 4 3 4 episode 1 and 2. Okay, so I'm going to assume this is Terry Silver.

[01:31:18] Did he just hang up on Chris? This is going to be great to see how these two interact now as kind of friends I guess but Daniel's giving this rousing speech and then Johnny just interrupts him. Okay, watching the credits and it did list Thomas Ian

[01:31:32] Griffith right before Martin Cove and there he is. On you got to reach out to Hawk don't just guys man. Oh say this isn't true. Come on. Don't don't give us wimpy Terry Silver. We need the over the top coked out revenge seeking Terry Silver. Bobby's got skills.

[01:31:53] The kid's turn out to be more mature than the adults again. Maybe we are going to get Terry Silver back on episode 2. We got nothing of Daniel's youngest son in the last season so now they're going to hit us over the head with him.

[01:32:07] I teach you centuries of his karate you can't teach a simple English. Oh Daniel's son is more of a jerk than we thought catfish in this the new kid come on. Did Chris just shoplift that fruit or did he put it

[01:32:22] back after taking a bite out of it? I guess Daniel is seeing the benefit of aggression. Yeah they're mirroring a cry kid with this Daniel's son bullying this little blackhead with a different ending though so sad though in the dumpster. That was a very good fight right there.

[01:32:40] LaRusso kind of mixing the Miyagi Do and Eagle thing. No Terry Silver in this one but now we see what the plot point with the new kid is interesting. You know thinking back to season one Daniel's kid was always kind of a little dickhead. Yeah he was annoying.

[01:33:01] Very spoiled brat yeah very much though. He's actually actually showing a little bit more humanity even than he did back then in some ways just by being a little hesitant. Yeah I wonder if the show runners felt that way too

[01:33:16] and the writers you know because they kind of cooled off on Anthony after the first season. Yeah. Yeah maybe I mean they got so many characters to juggle I'm surprised at how well they are doing with giving so many people something to do you know.

[01:33:28] Yeah it's gonna be hard like one of them's got to go. Exactly we just can't help everyone we'll get you next season all right kid. All right that is our show thanks so much for listening everybody hope you enjoyed it. Thanks Richard and Rima.

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[01:34:04] Facebook page at facebook.com slash podcastica and be sure to check out the other great podcasts at podcastica.com. Yeah like if you're not watching Dexter right now. Shame on you. Shame on you Richard. I mean I thought that was an old show.

[01:34:26] They did a revival really badly and so they're like let's let's fix that so they have a new mini series out. Yeah by the people who first started the show back when it was good. It's been great Rima has been covering with Pake on Strange Indeed.

[01:34:41] I'm I'm a fan of the show and the podcast. Thanks so if you want to watch the new version should we go back and watch the old version first. I mean personally I would recommend it but there are some folks if you look online there are some

[01:34:55] folks that will say no you don't really have to like you can watch the season without but I feel like just like anything else the context of the original series makes it a lot better right like you understand all the callbacks callbacks you understand the

[01:35:10] references and you have the history so. And personally even though I am liking the new show I think the first season of Dexter is still better and I would if you're going to watch some Dexter I would go watch that then if you want to keep

[01:35:21] going keep going. Absolutely first season is amazing. Yeah. Then all then on this podcast if you've been paying attention you probably notice them coming a shitload of shows lately like the time I'm not sure if the final episode is out yet or if not it'll be out

[01:35:38] any time now for that and then yellow jackets we just started covering which is so great such a good show dark and funny and really intricate and mysterious so you want to know what the hell is going to happen next.

[01:35:52] We just me and Eric and Chris did our first Boba Fett episode did you watch that rich. Yeah. Which thing fun yeah it was cool I like how they split the time almost equally between the now and the

[01:36:05] then yeah we get get the full we're gonna get the full backstory of Boba right cool Sarlacc Sarlacc yeah not to give away too much but Sarlacc Sarlacc that was everyone's question yeah it was great. Next episode even though it's got a dad bod now I

[01:36:22] know I don't really make sense given that that can identify with them better given that that happened right after the return of the Jedi okay whatever next episode for us will be cover Kai season for episodes three and four then learn stand and bicephaly

[01:36:40] which by the way I don't know if I'm saying that right but bicephaly is the condition of having two heads kind of like conjoined twins so I'm guessing that refers to Daniel and Johnny and maybe also Chris and Terry running their dojos. Hopefully can't wait.

[01:36:58] All right that's our show. Thanks for listening. No be there be here for next week's episode on podcastica.