Good Omens Finale 206 Every Day

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[00:00:13] We're about to delve into Season 2 Chapter 6, the name of your establishment, give me coffee,

[00:00:26] or give me death, I assume.

[00:00:27] They always ask for coffee.

[00:00:30] They don't ever ask for death, no.

[00:00:31] No, I'm not supposed to do.

[00:00:34] So predictable. Welcome back fellow angels and demons. This is the Good Omen's podcast on TV podcast industries, and we're in association with, of course,

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[00:01:08] We are on the last episode,

[00:01:10] chapter six of season two, every day.

[00:01:14] I am one of your host, Jon,

[00:01:15] and I am joined by my own ineffable fiance, Derek.

[00:01:20] Hey everybody, nice to be back.

[00:01:23] But it's the finale, I know.

[00:01:25] And a really teary one as well.

[00:01:27] It was, it was a very emotional way to end the show.

[00:01:31] Yes, very melancholic, the old music.

[00:01:34] Yes.

[00:01:35] Hanky's streaming eyes, blowing the old nose, you name it.

[00:01:39] It's really tough doing a podcast on it when you have to watch these episodes two or three

[00:01:42] times taking notes and you know what's coming.

[00:01:45] Absolutely.

[00:01:46] But at the same time, there was also still some great chuckle moments in this episode.

[00:01:55] And of course, with Derek Jacoby there as Meta Tron, then I actually love that.

[00:02:02] I really like Derek Jacoby.

[00:02:03] He's fantastic.

[00:02:04] I think he's really, really good. One of those old school actors worked alongside in the calendar few times and lots of fun and multiple roles and also was a previous doctor who he played the master yes and doctor who.

[00:02:17] He was in gladiator as well as one of the senators he's fantastic he's really really good at great to have in the show. Am I right in saying as a look at your notes that you wrote the name as Megatron?

[00:02:28] I did. I did. I kind of was thinking a little transformery.

[00:02:32] Right. So if I do call him Megatron throughout the podcast, don't worry fellow angels and demons.

[00:02:39] I haven't gone bonkers. It's just, yes, I guess I have gone bonkers.

[00:02:45] Yes, it is actually metatron to who I refer.

[00:02:49] Yes, we might as well prepare it up front just in case we get it wrong. Because we won't

[00:02:53] have an opportunity the future to do the I was wrong. You were right.

[00:02:56] Well, that is true.

[00:02:58] Sander in future episodes because it says our final episode of Good Omens. And there are

[00:03:02] talks as we mentioned a couple of times in the podcast, that season three, the Outline has been written, they are ready to start

[00:03:08] writing episodes of that. If it gets a green light from Prime Video, but they need to pay their

[00:03:12] writers before they start production on any future episodes of Good Omens. But hopefully,

[00:03:19] it won't be as long between season two and season three in the future, right? Yeah, absolutely. Let's cross our fingers, toes, arms, legs,

[00:03:29] you name it, anything you can cross, cross this.

[00:03:31] Absolutely. But the story will be told somehow.

[00:03:33] Now again, it says it will come out, no matter what.

[00:03:36] If there doesn't get a green light for season three at prime video,

[00:03:38] he has the option to either put it into a book form or turn it into a table.

[00:03:42] Interpreter's dance.

[00:03:43] Potentially interpretive chance.

[00:03:45] Yes, absolutely.

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[00:04:38] Chapter 6 of Season 2 of Good Omens every day. Derek, who gave us what we're in, were how, why, but,

[00:04:46] if, and everything else.

[00:04:49] Well, it's been the same pretty much all season.

[00:04:52] This episode once again, written for television by Neil Gaiman and John Finiman, based on

[00:04:56] the book by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett of course.

[00:04:59] And the episode once again for the finale, directed by Douglas McKinnon.

[00:05:03] Excellent stuff.

[00:05:05] Like to see a steady shape, actually.

[00:05:07] Absolutely.

[00:05:08] Absolutely.

[00:05:09] You know, you're going to guess this type of show with a vision behind it

[00:05:12] when every behind the scenes is the same all the way through the episodes, of course.

[00:05:15] And, you know, with six episodes of seasons, we're kind of coming from naturally

[00:05:19] talking about a show like Gotham when we started podcasting, which had 22 episodes

[00:05:23] of season.

[00:05:23] So you couldn't have one person right in every single episode of that or direct to every single episode of that or would never come out

[00:05:28] So that's true nowadays

[00:05:30] It probably makes it a little bit less sense that it used to the past doing

[00:05:33] Rather than director every episode when you have a six episode show because they tend to be the same writers and directors

[00:05:38] But we'll continue to do it as part of our format right?

[00:05:42] Absolutely and John do you want to tell us what they gave

[00:05:45] us with your synopsis for the finale of Good Omen Season 2 every day? Sure.

[00:05:50] While Aziraphale, Nina, and Maggie fend off the demons,

[00:05:53] Crowley discovers the reason for Gabriel's disappearance. He refused to support a second attempt at

[00:05:59] Armageddon. Gabriel was demoted from his position as an archangel, but before his memories could be wiped by Sarah Quel, both him and his memories

[00:06:08] cannot be located in heaven. Crowley returns to the bookshop, where Zirafael

[00:06:13] has successfully fended off the demons and accidentally declared war on hell by using

[00:06:18] his halo. Beelzebub appears and reveals that Gabriel's memories were hidden in the fly inside the

[00:06:25] box that Gabriel had been carrying when naked.

[00:06:29] Gabriel's memories, including those of him conducting a romance with Beelzebub, are

[00:06:34] restored.

[00:06:36] He and Beelzebub choose to abandon Heaven and Hell and leave together for their own versions

[00:06:41] of Heaven and Hell, maybe for Alpha Sentuary. As the assembled demons and

[00:06:46] angels squabble over what happens next, the metatron arrives, sending Michael, Uriel,

[00:06:52] and Saracwell back to Heaven as the demons are taken back to Hell. The metatron has

[00:06:57] a vacancy left by Gabriel and is looking for a new Archangel. He offers a zerafail,

[00:07:03] Gabriel's former position, as well as the ability to

[00:07:06] restore Crowley's status as an angel if he chooses to work with him. Meanwhile, Crowley

[00:07:11] prepares to confess his feelings to a Zirafael after a good talking to by Nina and Maggie.

[00:07:18] Together at last, a Zirafael informs Crowley that he plans to accept the Metatron's offer,

[00:07:24] while Crowley asks

[00:07:25] Aziraphale to abandon Heaven like he would do so for Hell, so they can become an Uzz,

[00:07:31] just as Gabriel and Beelzebub did.

[00:07:34] Caught off guard Aziraphale asks Crowley to instead return to Heaven as an angel to work

[00:07:38] together, but Crowley refuses the offer, realising as Zirafael as being manipulated. Zirafael leaves Earth and Crowley to go to work for Heaven, where the metatron informs

[00:07:50] him that his task, for which he has the perfect skill set, will be to enact the second coming.

[00:07:58] Armageddon coming around the mountain again.

[00:08:01] It looks like.

[00:08:02] Well yeah, well no, second coming is second coming of Christ.

[00:08:06] Well, we'll talk about it. Well, that'd be, I can't remember my Bible. No, you are correct.

[00:08:11] The second coming would be the second coming of Jesus. Yes, that's that would be accurate,

[00:08:16] but this is the job that Gabriel turned down. The second coming would inspire Armageddon.

[00:08:23] Exactly. That is true.

[00:08:25] So, yeah, we'll talk about it. That's kind of a central point. What we need to talk about

[00:08:31] as we get through our signs of the apocalypse.

[00:08:33] Yes. Over here, my Sunday school lessons have forsaken me.

[00:08:39] That's all right. We never claimed to know everything about the Bible when we started

[00:08:42] this podcast.

[00:08:43] Exactly. Lessons get into, into the fellow angels and demons

[00:08:47] our top five signs of the apocalypse.

[00:08:51] Our big moments from the episode.

[00:08:52] Yes.

[00:08:53] First off, the first sign of the apocalypse,

[00:08:55] Nina and Maggie together.

[00:08:57] Not quite.

[00:08:58] Yeah.

[00:08:59] Yeah, I thought it was important to talk about Nina and Maggie

[00:09:01] since they've been a pretty big focus

[00:09:03] throughout the season.

[00:09:04] This idea that Crowley and Aziraphale were going to cover up the miracle that they'd

[00:09:08] done by getting Nina and Maggie together. So they spent a few episodes trying to get

[00:09:12] them together. And here they are in the final battle against Shaxx and her demons in the

[00:09:19] bookshop. And Aziraphale actually reveals exactly what his plan was. He kind of says,

[00:09:23] well, I set up the dancing to get you together. It was so much easier in the books of Jane Austen. And

[00:09:29] only then to Mandy and Maggie realized that they have been a plus all the way through

[00:09:33] for Crowley and a Zirafel.

[00:09:36] Well, also remember, not only was it not as easy as Jane Austen made it look, but she was also, and he describes to neither Maggie

[00:09:46] the brains behind the 1857 Clokenwell, Dine and Robbery, which I quite liked as well,

[00:09:51] just pulling through that joke from the Dirty Donkey between Aziraphale and Corole, who

[00:09:58] was completely amazed that she was an author.

[00:10:02] It is a good little gag as well, but why would there ever felt think that that's how they would know?

[00:10:07] I'd say that's exactly what it's still a funny joke.

[00:10:11] It is.

[00:10:12] But I loved this, sort of, just, you know, that continued battle with Shex and her demons.

[00:10:21] And there's just, you know, I love that Maggie is giving it loads to Shaxx here

[00:10:26] and Shaxx sort of retorting with, you know,

[00:10:29] your dull and will die in nobody.

[00:10:32] But Maggie just also inadvertently inviting the hordes in

[00:10:38] so it will come in here and have it, you know.

[00:10:41] So to my faces.

[00:10:42] Totally on fighting talk.

[00:10:44] But I really like this. I love the

[00:10:46] fact that as the demons seem to just be getting caught in, firstly, the battery operated candles

[00:10:54] and and being kind of, incorporated as they go because they're not prepared for it. And she seems to be enjoying her leadership

[00:11:05] role with this rabble less and less. And I just really, again, Miranda Richardson have

[00:11:13] facial expressions, just her exasperation of the fact that her elite hordes of demons are not operating as she would envision.

[00:11:29] I just really enjoyed this being again being pulled through from the previous episodes.

[00:11:36] And I loved how ultimately it does lead to the final discorporation, I'm guessing, of Demon Eric.

[00:11:46] Yeah.

[00:11:47] But I love the visual.

[00:11:49] Yeah, I'm not entirely sure because Jack survived it.

[00:11:53] Yeah.

[00:11:54] So maybe they were all just kind of sent back down to hell.

[00:11:58] But I do.

[00:11:59] I loved the visual of him pulling his halo from out of his head with a zirafail as he has to mount one final defense of his bookshop.

[00:12:10] Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But I have to give that Shae to too demon Erika.

[00:12:15] I like that he came back this episode after we saw them effectively exploded last episode for asking too many questions of Shaxx.

[00:12:23] He's back. That wasn't a continuity error.

[00:12:25] That's just she wasn't completely destroying him. He mentioned that angels can do that, but demons can't completely destroy another demon.

[00:12:32] This time we see him leading the charge for a moment and then when told by Aziraphale that there'll be no trouble if he leaves Shaxx.

[00:12:41] It does it again to him, explodes him saying there will be trouble if you come back this way.

[00:12:46] And then we see him finally, yes, as you say, get, uh,

[00:12:48] at, uh, by the angel halo of that.

[00:12:52] Yeah, I'm guessing so, but it's the fact that Shaq survived it.

[00:12:55] I guess she could have just been protected from a bookshelf or something like that.

[00:13:00] Maybe.

[00:13:00] But, um, I did like the gag in here as well as to why there were so many fire extinguishers

[00:13:06] as well that were being used after that first line of defense of the battery operated candles

[00:13:13] in the pentagram after that had been breached. It was really good.

[00:13:19] Well, that's based on season one, the bookshop did bird dead. Yeah, no, exactly. I just like the gag of that as well.

[00:13:26] But yeah, so, but ultimately, you know, this is Nina and Maggie coming together to, well,

[00:13:35] protect themselves, but also Mr. Fell's bookshop.

[00:13:37] I do kind of like Nina's questions all the way through this.

[00:13:43] She's just going to constantly questioning what is going on,

[00:13:50] what a zero fail is doing, and so on. And just how starting to piece together, this all came about

[00:13:58] that day, the electricity went off, and they were locked together in the shop. So I kind of like that. And I liked how they're

[00:14:06] instrumental in bringing that tear jerk of an ending as well.

[00:14:13] Of course, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Those questions that she's asking of Aziraphale where she's

[00:14:18] saying, well, you just answer a simple question on Aziraphale responding going, well, when I hear

[00:14:23] a simple question, then I will answer them,

[00:14:25] but none of these questions that you're asking are simple to answer. Did it start the other day

[00:14:30] when the pair went out? Well, no, it started millennia ago, started way before at time you can

[00:14:35] even think of, but also it started when the electricity went out through the day. Really good. But yes,

[00:14:40] after everything is a real fell and Crowley have done, what actually gets them together is the two of them standing up against the army of demons.

[00:14:48] We have that moment for the first time when Nina's saying that Maggie's the bravest person she knows for standing up against these demons.

[00:14:56] So you can tell there's something there.

[00:14:58] But you know, this is not a stereotypical show. This isn't going to be the show where the two leads run off into the sunset in each other's arms with Nina and Maggie here. They kind of go, you meddled in our lives, you

[00:15:10] tried to make us fall in love with each other. And Nina kind of gone, I've literally just broken

[00:15:15] up with a partner. That's not a time to start a new relationship regardless of what it would be.

[00:15:19] I'd be in a rebound mess. So I will wait until I'm ready.

[00:15:27] And who's to know if Maggie's still waiting for me? And I love Maggie responding going, I will.

[00:15:29] Absolutely.

[00:15:30] I will, shut up.

[00:15:32] Well, I think she went off to help her,

[00:15:34] sort of get her oat milks and a almond milks and all that.

[00:15:38] And cream as she opens up the coffee shop.

[00:15:41] Exactly.

[00:15:41] Which also has one of my favorite lines of this episode as well is

[00:15:48] from Metatron as they ask Nina, do they ever ask for death?

[00:15:53] That was a great moment, great moment.

[00:15:55] It was really good.

[00:15:57] No, all the other good names for coffee shops were taken, no, they don't ask for death.

[00:16:01] No, exactly. The other thing from this whole early scene as well

[00:16:06] was just Gabriel still being hidden from view

[00:16:12] to Shaxx as well, where Shaxx is ordering a zero fail

[00:16:18] to give up Gabriel and he kind of chimes in,

[00:16:21] does Gabriel with, oh, that's what they call me i'm gay

[00:16:25] but she just says tell that more and to stop interrupting again i am around richson's delivery for me is just really good in the same way as.

[00:16:37] For a direct track of the as as met as i love his just his intonation the turn of phrase and how he delivered it in this.

[00:16:46] And the same goes from around to Richardson as well. Really good.

[00:16:50] Yeah, great, great guest performances in here, as always for the show. And yeah, great characters.

[00:16:55] But overall, just to, I guess, resolve this final point, it is Nina Maggie standing up to,

[00:17:00] as Ira fell in Crayley basically saying, you're meddled in our lives. Don't do that.

[00:17:04] If we happen to get together, that's fine. But it's not happening right now. I just broke

[00:17:08] up on the partner from Nina and explaining that the reason why they hadn't got together

[00:17:13] before now is because they'd never thought to stop and talk to each other. And now Crowley

[00:17:18] and Aziraphale need to do that. They need to take a moment to talk to each other. I love

[00:17:22] Crowley's response to that is we've talked to each other for millennia. I say something really smart,

[00:17:27] Anna Zirafel says something that's really funny, even though he doesn't know that he's funny.

[00:17:31] It's like, I love that because it has a little insight into that.

[00:17:34] It's almost a little bit of turning the tables, what they have at least gotten out of this experience,

[00:17:42] you know, is that, well, you never say what you're really feeling. It needs to be out of this experience, you know, is that well you never say what you're really feeling,

[00:17:46] and it needs to be out in the open,

[00:17:48] just like kind of turn that matchmaking

[00:17:51] that Crowley and Aziraphil were doing back on.

[00:17:54] Exactly.

[00:17:55] So yeah, really good, really enjoyed that.

[00:17:58] On to our second sign of the apocalypse, no doubt.

[00:18:02] Absolutely.

[00:18:03] What happened to Gabriel? I love

[00:18:06] one. I really thought this was quite good actually. I really enjoyed it. I wasn't expecting

[00:18:13] it to be delivered in this succinct way. Yes. And at all. I thought it was actually

[00:18:20] going to take up the majority of this episode. But I really liked it from the point that

[00:18:25] Crowley arrives in heaven, where we get to... You're a Muriel. Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:32] ...understanding at all. Well, you know, just the He's like, you're not really under arrest

[00:18:49] iron. He's like, no, and she does. I'm helping you, aren't I? Yes. It does like

[00:18:55] really good. But it allows Crowley to get the intel on what happened to Gabriel,

[00:19:01] which is Gabriel stops the ending of everything and the final

[00:19:07] victory of heaven to allow for eternity. And why is that? I mean, we'll come to a bit later

[00:19:14] in one of our other signs of the apocalypse. But ultimately, it is because of love. It

[00:19:21] is because of a relationship or a romance that he has developed over time from an

[00:19:27] initial meeting with Beelzebub and here in terms of standing each other's armies down and sort of

[00:19:35] bringing about a truce at the last apocalypse. I like the little touch back to season one and

[00:19:42] then the next time we see Beelzebub. Because I just thought I'd change my appearance.

[00:19:47] I've been the same for the last 6,000 years.

[00:19:49] So nice and efficiently done.

[00:19:52] The recast of the role, yes.

[00:19:54] But I loved how it all came about through this gift

[00:19:57] from B.L.s. above.

[00:20:00] I fly as they are the Lord of Flies.

[00:20:04] And that was, again again another little doctor who

[00:20:07] reference here is bigger on the inside. And as you get this little fly being put into the match

[00:20:13] box that's got the resurrectionist on it as they are sharing a drink in the resurrectionist as they

[00:20:20] meet again. And they develop the the Bud Buddy Holly song as a messaging system because it

[00:20:28] contains all this information.

[00:20:31] So I like that and I liked how it played out where you have Gabriel kind of remembering

[00:20:37] as he's shooting through a sort of a blue tube and John Ham just has loads of really strange expressions on his faces. He's going

[00:20:47] through it, which was kind of quirky and just kind of maybe giggling sides. I really liked

[00:20:55] that. I loved it as well. This was where Mesotron for me, just the floating head there and as Gabriel is being demoted, being kicked out of heaven, but he

[00:21:07] kind of takes matters into his own hands by putting his memories into the fly and writing

[00:21:15] on the box and saying, I'm in the fly. But just that he gets out of heaven before they're

[00:21:22] able to actually wipe his memories and almost formally demote him.

[00:21:27] And you have Saracuel going,

[00:21:30] he's not in heaven,

[00:21:32] and neither is memories, I can't locate them.

[00:21:35] And you have Metatron,

[00:21:37] as all these angels are panicking,

[00:21:40] where he's like,

[00:21:41] just stop being so wet.

[00:21:43] Absolutely.

[00:21:44] Just like, go and find them.

[00:21:46] You don't need to turn on an alarm and that alerts everybody else to your failure basically

[00:21:49] go and find them.

[00:21:51] I just really, really enjoyed this.

[00:21:55] Don't be so wet as you've got all these panicky angels like Wert is Gabriel, what's happened

[00:22:01] to him.

[00:22:02] And I just really, really enjoyed it.

[00:22:05] Oh, I like that.

[00:22:05] I also like the joke of why Gabriel's actually naked.

[00:22:09] It's because he's been demoted to a lower level

[00:22:12] at Min Angel than Muriel.

[00:22:15] And the outfit that he's wearing,

[00:22:17] since it's tailor-made for Archangel,

[00:22:19] is the wrong type of actress for him to be wearing,

[00:22:22] so he has to be naked.

[00:22:23] Yes, he has officially gone down to a junior recording angel 38th class. There you go. He has to wait for his

[00:22:29] new outfit. He won't always be naked, but he will have to wait for his new outfit.

[00:22:33] Your role is 38th. It's 37th class. Yes, she is. So even she's going, I didn't realize

[00:22:39] I was anything to do that with anything. So is the punishment here justified for for

[00:22:43] Gabriel and what he did?

[00:22:45] They're effectively saying the Archangel of Heaven who has the right to make decisions

[00:22:48] since he's kind of a leading angel, has made a decision they don't agree with so they've

[00:22:53] demoted them to the lowest level of angel possible instead of sending them to hell or

[00:22:56] selling them to earth.

[00:22:58] Yeah.

[00:22:59] Well, Sarah Quell says it's for refusing to use his celestial power.

[00:23:06] So.

[00:23:07] Yeah, cause they can't go ahead with the apocalypse.

[00:23:08] Without his approval effect.

[00:23:10] So they're taking it all away.

[00:23:11] Yeah, basically.

[00:23:13] But they're not punishing him by sending him to hell

[00:23:15] and they're removing his memory

[00:23:16] so he doesn't know this what he's done.

[00:23:18] Okay, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:19] So with all that resolved effectively

[00:23:21] and his memory's all back, he's meeting up with Bielzebub and effectively they're declaring their love for each other

[00:23:30] and that they will spend all of their time together.

[00:23:34] I love that they're making references to the fact that anytime Gabriel is with Bielzebub

[00:23:39] it's happened for him and Bielzebub saying it'll be my own special hell when I'm with Gabriel. So they're

[00:23:48] effectively going off to their versions of Hone and Hell, as you said, in your synopsis job.

[00:23:53] But I kind of like that that even though Bialzabob is going to spend time with Gabriel,

[00:23:57] she's still calling it her own special hell.

[00:23:59] Yeah, I know it was. It was just, I think just the fact that you see that they went from this

[00:24:05] formal meeting of an Archangel and the Lord of Flies to gradually becoming acquaintances.

[00:24:12] You have Gabriel showing off his statue, you should be eligible, you then say, Chifancia

[00:24:17] Pint and then all of this kind of stuff. I thought it was really well done. That moment where, you know, wherever Beelzebub

[00:24:25] is, is my heaven. And, you know, her kind of response to that is wherever Gabriel is,

[00:24:32] is my special little hell. It was just, that was pretty cute.

[00:24:37] And I do like the even bonding over the song. Yeah. When Beelzebub is trying to explain

[00:24:43] what a song is to Gabriel. You know, we like this

[00:24:45] song. What's that? The noise that's in the background, that's called a song. It's like the first time

[00:24:50] Gabriel's ever been aware of a song playing. And then the fact that the two of them

[00:24:55] nod their heads in time to the song makes it a special song for both of them. Yeah, exactly.

[00:25:00] Yeah, so that's not that was really cute. then off they go into the sunset never to return again

[00:25:06] So is what they say so we won't get John Hamm if there is a season three of good omens. It seems it would seem so yeah

[00:25:12] Which is a shame. Yeah, but there's always a

[00:25:17] Possibility that's all in the writing so there's always possibility definitely come back. Hey you come back and play a different character

[00:25:23] That's happened this season as well. So it doesn't have to come back and play Gabriel It character that's happened this season as well, so it

[00:25:25] doesn't have to come back and play Gabriel.

[00:25:26] It would just be since he was so central this season would be a surprise.

[00:25:29] Yeah.

[00:25:30] But again, Miranda Richardson was so central in season one, and she came back as another

[00:25:34] central character this time.

[00:25:35] Exactly.

[00:25:36] So I think on that potentially apocalyptic bond, we should move on to our third sign of the Apocalypse, which is the Angels of Heaven.

[00:25:46] This is the Demons of Hell, all in a Zero Fell's bookshop here.

[00:25:52] So we have the usual suspects of Ural, Michael and Sarah Quel in there coming down to sort of,

[00:26:01] you know, now that Gabriel has been found, but you also have the Demons

[00:26:05] of Daegon, Firtha and Piaelsvob, along with Shaxx, as well, he has been woken up by Piaelsvob,

[00:26:13] and again you have Shaxx calling Piaelsvob this traitorous demon, you know, and they're

[00:26:20] both wanting a bit of them to, the Demons to bring them down to the devil for punishment.

[00:26:26] And then the angels sort of getting all uppity saying,

[00:26:28] no, we will take them,

[00:26:30] but we reserve the right to send them to hell

[00:26:33] as punishment for the betrayal that has happened here.

[00:26:37] It's kind of like they want the credit

[00:26:39] for sending them to hell,

[00:26:40] rather than just them going to hell.

[00:26:42] So it's like they want the administrative rights on that.

[00:26:45] And Mark, what happened to them?

[00:26:47] It is really good.

[00:26:48] And I do love the fact that you've kind of got Crowley

[00:26:53] and Aziraphale sort of as the referees in the middle here,

[00:26:57] as they're all shouting at over one another.

[00:27:00] I love Crowley pointing to the demons going,

[00:27:05] you idiots sent this idiots pointing to Shaxx

[00:27:09] to lead these idiots, meaning all the demons that have died.

[00:27:13] But yes, there's a lot of back and forth here

[00:27:17] until Zerofell asks Gabriel, or what does he want

[00:27:22] and what does Beelzebub want to do?

[00:27:24] Yeah.

[00:27:25] And leading to, I guess, you know, the cutesy your heaven is my hell and vice versa, you

[00:27:33] know?

[00:27:34] But I love that with all this squabbling going on, you have the voice of God in Mestetram

[00:27:42] coming in to effectively pull them apart and send them, at least send

[00:27:48] the angels back up to heaven.

[00:27:49] I love it.

[00:27:50] And I loved the joke here where they don't recognize him because he's got a body and

[00:27:56] legs and he's not floating head.

[00:27:59] I absolutely loved this.

[00:28:02] I had Ferris, I had to get John to explain this to me because when I watched it I was going,

[00:28:06] this whole series has been about them not being able to recognize Gabriel because of the miracle

[00:28:11] that they did. Why did they recognize the matter, John? They've worked with him for millions of years,

[00:28:16] but as John explained to me, it's just a joke. It's just a joke. It's just funny because they've

[00:28:22] only ever seen him as a gigantic head floating around. Exactly. That's the thing. It's like, and not in corporal form.

[00:28:29] So it's just like, who are you?

[00:28:32] It is so Monty Python ridiculously stupid, but hilariously funny to me.

[00:28:38] So I thought this was hilarious because just the work on Metta Schom's face is like, I can't believe

[00:28:46] I'm hearing this. I mean, you know, it is really ruthless as better Chom here. And I

[00:28:51] mean, don't Jack be does ruthlessness so well. And you see it later in him talking with

[00:28:58] a zero fail as well. And to me, it felt like the master in Doctor Who, just that manipulative-ness of out here.

[00:29:06] But I loved that throwaway where he just looks

[00:29:09] at the angels and goes, don't be so stupid.

[00:29:12] You don't have any of these kind of parrots at all.

[00:29:13] You're talking piffle.

[00:29:14] Yeah, no, exactly.

[00:29:15] Go back to heaven with you and shut up

[00:29:18] and stop threatening people, basically.

[00:29:19] But that's it.

[00:29:20] And even with his put down of pure Muriel,

[00:29:24] where he's like, you know, right, you locked back up to heaven, except the dim one points up to Muriel.

[00:29:30] Exactly. But you know that for him, Michael, Ural and Sarah Quill are all dim ones as well.

[00:29:39] He is just so obnoxiously great great it's really good. Yep. And I didn't include a zero fella and that as well

[00:29:47] Yeah, you know, that's that that would be his feeling about a zero fella

[00:29:50] It feels like he seems to be someone that believes he's more supreme than everybody else because he is the voice of God because he

[00:29:58] Carries the word of God to the rest of the angels exactly so that is that is his position

[00:30:04] But yeah, I love how he treats that they're the angels that rest of the angels. So that is his position, but yeah, I love how he treats

[00:30:05] that they're angels. That sends off the angels. That's how they get out of this situation or get

[00:30:10] out of here and go back to heaven. But the demons is also an interesting resolution to what they're

[00:30:19] fighting for or fighting against, I guess. They want to take Crowley and Aziraphale back and punish them in hell,

[00:30:26] and then realize that by Beelzebub being this traitor, that this could be the path for Shaxx to

[00:30:33] finally get a higher position in hell. If she goes back to the Dark Council and tells them that

[00:30:38] they've had this spy inside who's had connection directly with heaven all along, this could get

[00:30:43] Shaxx a much higher position, the former position of Beelzebub down in Hell.

[00:30:49] Exactly. And Fervor of course is the one that's been riding her co-tails all

[00:30:53] the way along for the many many many years. So he's kind of going yes

[00:30:58] actually I'll follow them with you and see but I get out of this as well. So off

[00:31:01] they all go together to claim their new positions in hell. It's a good way

[00:31:06] of resolving their story. Definitely. It was good to see Daegol in there as well.

[00:31:12] Yeah. Because we hadn't really seen her much in this. Not much this season. No, no, but it's good

[00:31:17] to see those characters in there. I didn't even call it earlier on that we did actually get to

[00:31:20] see the them. I'd love to see what happens to them. We did get to see those in the memories of Gabriel. We did see them all around just, I know it's a flashback to

[00:31:31] season one, but just nice to see them again and that's the end of the season. Absolutely.

[00:31:35] But speaking of Mettatron's mega-tronic manipulations, let us go to the fourth sign of the coming apocalypse, which is

[00:31:47] Mater Tron's offer to Aziraphan. And again, it's no different from him

[00:31:54] saying the dim one about Muriel or just the kind of disregard of Michael Ural

[00:32:03] and Saracual. Yeah.

[00:32:05] You know, this you just see him working the room,

[00:32:08] or should I say, Wickba Street, you know?

[00:32:11] And I just thought it was so good.

[00:32:15] You know, he's playing, he knows the Zirafael

[00:32:17] has feelings for Crowley, playing up to the fact that,

[00:32:20] you know, it may be unusual.

[00:32:22] And if the former angel Crowley comes back to work with you,

[00:32:28] given he's been a demon for the last however many thousands of years,

[00:32:32] but you would have that power to be able to restore him to angelic form,

[00:32:38] probably knowing full well he would never want to because of what he's carved out down here.

[00:32:42] he would never want to and

[00:32:47] No, because of what he's carved out down here because you know, he says I've been observing you

[00:32:53] You're able to create a partnership with the demon Crowley. Yeah, you know So you can just sense from here his how he's talking to Zira fail, you know, he's watched him

[00:33:00] he's he knows the weak points and

[00:33:04] It knows why in a sense what will transpire later when

[00:33:10] Zirafel asks Crowley about if he wants to be restored. But also, Zirafel would want that because

[00:33:30] is, despite in a sense, having partially fallen with the lighter grey around the edges that are zero-failing employees, at heart, and as he says to Crowley later on, with the good

[00:33:39] guys.

[00:33:40] It's still that good guys, bad guys kind of mentality there.

[00:33:46] It's just Crowley is in that gray space of that.

[00:33:51] Exactly.

[00:33:52] I just loved how you got that sense of the manipulation going on between Mettatron towards

[00:33:58] Zero fail.

[00:33:59] Well, even just the fact that he's really dismissive of Crowley as well, he even calls

[00:34:04] out Crowley as the one that used to ask all those stupid questions,

[00:34:06] which was the reason given for him being a fallen angel.

[00:34:10] Yeah.

[00:34:11] So yeah, he probably never wanted him there, but he absolutely needs a zerafel for his plan to carry out this plan that he has,

[00:34:18] which Gabriel stopped, which is the second coming.

[00:34:22] Yeah, exactly. So, and by him saying that Aziraphale's skills are perfectly placed for that,

[00:34:28] he gives some kind of golf, I think, to Aziraphale saying, you know,

[00:34:33] well, you're a natural leader and everybody respects your opinion and everybody respects

[00:34:37] your decisions. But actually what he's saying is you're quite easily manipulated.

[00:34:41] That's what I need as the fourth member of this council that have to make this decision. And the archangel, which would be his new position, you won't refuse that

[00:34:50] because you believe in the true goodness of heaven, you know? And that's what Crowley sees

[00:34:55] straight through. And that's why I like this moment. And it does take a much more serious

[00:35:00] turn towards the end of the episode we've talked about, lots of the humour that's gone out throughout

[00:35:04] this series. But as it gets to the end of the episode, there are moments

[00:35:07] here that feel like they're out of other works of Michael Sheen and David Tennant.

[00:35:14] Absolutely.

[00:35:15] You know, there's some very serious moments and they work really well to them or great

[00:35:17] actors regardless of whether they're doing drama or comedy. But I thought from that moment

[00:35:22] of Mettaton's offer, how happy Aziraphale is and finally

[00:35:26] given this offer that he can go back to heaven with this amazing position and that he can

[00:35:30] bring Crowley with him and everything be forgiven.

[00:35:34] As he kind of skips down the street to this happy idea, that's kind of where the episode

[00:35:39] changes and this season finale moment happens really.

[00:35:43] Well, that's it. Like the tonal shift in the episode is huge.

[00:35:50] It's spectacular and it needs to have the likes

[00:35:55] of Michael Sheen and David Tennant in order

[00:35:58] to shift it on the access and be convincing

[00:36:02] because I loved how it was structured as well. You know, you have

[00:36:07] metatron going, basically taking a zero fail out of the bookshop to relay this deal that

[00:36:17] he wants him to accept this offer and to be the new Archangelangel to replace Gabriel. At the same time while you have Nina and Maggie

[00:36:28] coming in, as we said earlier,

[00:36:30] to effectively to turn the tables by saying,

[00:36:33] well, what about your feelings to your partner?

[00:36:37] Absolutely. As it refails.

[00:36:38] And you need to tell them how you feel

[00:36:41] and be open about it.

[00:36:43] And it all comes back, I guess,

[00:36:44] to our fifth sign of it,

[00:36:46] Apocalypse of... There's so much of a twist here, we had to put it into a new point, yeah.

[00:36:51] Like, you know, which say, I love Lost, you know, we could have been an us, because this is where

[00:37:00] the ideas of what you would want for your other half,

[00:37:05] come crashing all around both of them.

[00:37:09] You know, you have got Crowley wanting to be open

[00:37:13] to be an Auss that, you know, both him and Aziraphil,

[00:37:17] they've had and carved out this niche on earth.

[00:37:20] And being who they are,

[00:37:23] but doing things for themselves were needed and you have this

[00:37:31] lifetime ambition of the power and sanctity of heaven taking over in a zero fail and him wanting that for Crowley to be restored to his angelic form. But it

[00:37:48] just not being what the author wants or is ready for at this moment. I think in

[00:37:55] Crowley's case it's he doesn't want that he sees the manipulation as you say.

[00:38:00] For a zero fail it's actually putting his wants onto Crowley.

[00:38:06] Yes.

[00:38:07] And also not really recognizing his own naivety.

[00:38:12] I mean, in a sense, I love how Michael Sheen here plays this because, and he does all the

[00:38:17] way through, you know, it's that stuttering.

[00:38:19] It's that humming and earring that he so often does as a zero fail. And it's that indecisiveness, that looking for that lead

[00:38:29] from Gage or from Metatron or from Gabriel or from Michael.

[00:38:34] It's always about doing the right thing.

[00:38:37] And he thinks that Crowley wants that.

[00:38:43] Well, exactly, it goes to the whole conversation that's

[00:38:45] been going on all season between the two of them all the things we've learned in

[00:38:48] the past and this turning away that we've seen from a zero fell as he learns

[00:38:53] more and more what heaven is really like and in this moment the conversation

[00:38:58] between the two of them Crowley is saying to him but I turned down hell

[00:39:01] immediately when they made me an offer to come back in a better position.

[00:39:05] And Aziraphil saying, well, of course you did, they're the bad guys.

[00:39:08] Throughout this season, what we've been learning is heaven is also heaven.

[00:39:11] Heaven has its own agenda that Aziraphil can't align with.

[00:39:17] He can no longer align with heaven being this utterly glorious, always good choice,

[00:39:24] always just the good thing and

[00:39:26] hell being the bad thing. Both sides of this are...

[00:39:31] That's clearly says toxic heaven and hell are toxic.

[00:39:34] Exactly.

[00:39:35] He wants it to be in us because these other sides that they've been placed on are toxic

[00:39:41] to them.

[00:39:42] Yeah.

[00:39:43] And toxic to everything. It's not even that.

[00:39:46] A zero fail seems to feel,

[00:39:47] if he gets this position in heaven,

[00:39:49] he can change heaven,

[00:39:50] but despite incontrovertible evidence

[00:39:53] that somebody who tried to do that

[00:39:55] in the Archangel Gabriel going,

[00:39:57] there is not going to be another Armageddon.

[00:39:59] We are going to stop this right now,

[00:40:01] and let's move on to talking about the cleaning plans

[00:40:03] for the rest of the week.

[00:40:05] He tried to do that and was demoted and stripped

[00:40:07] of everything, including all of his memories.

[00:40:10] So, Curly's seen all of that, and a zero fail still thinks,

[00:40:14] oh no, I can make a difference.

[00:40:15] If I just join them and go back to my old position.

[00:40:17] And as you say, that heaven and hell are toxic,

[00:40:22] that he can't change it.

[00:40:24] It's the righteousness

[00:40:25] imbues within a zero fail and as Crowley puts it, I mean I love the line is that

[00:40:30] you know when heaven ends earth death will be just as bad as if held it is like

[00:40:35] there's no good death. There's no good Armageddon. No good Armageddon. Yeah exactly

[00:40:41] and it's just like a really really really good on it. Because you have the moment where a zero fail,

[00:40:48] maybe it's one last chance where you idiot,

[00:40:51] we could have been us as he was Crowley kisses a zero fail.

[00:40:56] And immediately, this moment possibly

[00:41:00] where it could have switched back

[00:41:03] and you have Metatronatron, you know, walking

[00:41:06] in to come back and take Aziraphale to heaven. And again, you have this indecision, this

[00:41:15] awkwardness and stuttering from Aziraphale. Again, just I think so well portrayed by Michael Sheen here and in the end he's whisked off

[00:41:35] to the elevator to go up to heaven. I mean, you know, it's with Crowley on the other side

[00:41:40] of the road. It's just a real downer for the season, but it's really kind

[00:41:45] of the tragedy of love. I mean, this is the tragedy. This is Shakespearean tragedy for

[00:41:52] this season, which is a love that could have been, is being snuffed out by the toxicity

[00:42:00] of competing sides. Yeah. You know, it's really interesting.

[00:42:06] It's really interesting.

[00:42:07] It's really well done as well.

[00:42:09] Yeah.

[00:42:10] And I have those final moments as we see Crowley going back to his apartment in his car that

[00:42:14] had been at home for the last couple of years.

[00:42:17] I do like that little joke about that.

[00:42:19] Can I go back to my apartment and Shaxx going, nobody cares.

[00:42:22] Just do whatever you want.

[00:42:24] But that was a good little joke. But no, sorry, the ending itself over the credits as Crowley is driving.

[00:42:29] And Aziraphale is traveling up in the elevator to heaven, both side by side, both thinking and

[00:42:37] contemplating about what's going on, I suppose. But it is, it's Crowley even after all of these millennia unable to convince Aziraphale

[00:42:48] of this coming apocalypse and that he's not getting this great reward, he is being used

[00:42:53] as another pawn by heaven.

[00:42:56] Even after everything Aziraphale has seen, he still can't make that leap to go against

[00:43:01] heaven in totality I suppose.

[00:43:03] Yeah, absolutely. Which is where we leave it for season two of Good Omens.

[00:43:09] Hopefully, there's going to be a season three. Hopefully, we'll see the resolution to this story,

[00:43:13] because it does now feel like a cliffhanger. It's interesting. We talked about it in the last episode

[00:43:16] and episode five that we didn't think the season was going to complete in the same way that season

[00:43:21] wounded. And actually, it's been left with a big cliffhanger for these

[00:43:25] two characters because of this approaching apocalypse. We didn't have that kind of cliffhanger at the

[00:43:30] end of season one. They'd resolved everything and now they're going to spend time enjoying the

[00:43:35] rits and having nice breakfast and having some drinks. That's kind of where the story ended. There

[00:43:40] wasn't this oncoming apocalypse. In fact, they wrapped it up quite with that

[00:43:45] in season one where there was another book of nice natural prophecies, if you remember.

[00:43:48] Well, that, yeah. And I do like that they have the reprise of Tori Amos' Nightingale

[00:43:55] song. And certainly because you just, you know, there is that moment in that conversation between

[00:44:00] a zero failing crowley where he says, listen, as nothing. And he says, there's no nightingales.

[00:44:07] You know, so I liked how that kind of closed it out with the Tori Amos song.

[00:44:14] And it's an ending, but it's not a happy one.

[00:44:17] Yeah.

[00:44:17] They're both both protagonists are still alive in the same way as with season one.

[00:44:23] The then are still alive and they have

[00:44:27] been taken out and it's a happy ending. We've been extracted from their role in Armageddon,

[00:44:36] but this is just on the other side of that chart, which is it's a sad ending because

[00:44:42] they're both still alive but going in an opposite direction.

[00:44:45] Exactly.

[00:44:46] And the great thing about the ending is you know you can see in a zero fail is like have I made

[00:44:53] the right decision sort of etched across his face in terms of how he's contemplating it.

[00:44:58] Yeah.

[00:44:58] And almost with with Crowley it's you know I would say first and foremost, he's just mad at zero fail. But also, how can

[00:45:08] I get him out of this? Probably. Or a stupid angel not listening to me.

[00:45:13] Yeah, exactly. Any notes, any other thoughts about the episode that we haven't touched upon?

[00:45:19] Yeah, just a Mezatron line as well after, you know, they've decided to banish Gabriel and

[00:45:27] it, Mezron just goes, is one fallen angel, it looks like there was a mistake, a second

[00:45:34] fallen angel and it would look like we've got institutional issues, you know, again, the covering up, it's the PR of this council,

[00:45:46] to that Gabriel is just simply just being moved

[00:45:53] out of existence really.

[00:45:56] Yes, absolutely, absolutely, nice little line there.

[00:45:59] The only other thing I just wanted to mention,

[00:46:00] because it was just a very tiny little touch.

[00:46:02] Did you notice when Nina and Maggie were sitting,

[00:46:04] talking to Crowley and Maggie

[00:46:07] says something slightly out of place.

[00:46:09] Nina responds to her going, don't worry, Angel.

[00:46:12] So her just a little touch that a similar thing that Crowley had said about

[00:46:17] as Erofel being his being his angel and had that had references to that

[00:46:22] relationship. But just I thought it was fun that they included that between me and making absolutely so direct what do you think overall for the season and for the episode.

[00:46:33] I really like this is a wrap up to the season and i feel like in the back of my mind i'm going will definitely get a third season so that will be okay when we finished up season one i was really satisfied with the ending of that because I was satisfied with the ending of the book. We'd never ever see these characters back

[00:46:48] again. And this season has been an interesting experience, but it does feel like half of a story.

[00:46:54] Just because this felt like the adventures of Aziraphale and Crowley to get them to this end point,

[00:47:00] I can't imagine it's going to stay and be left like this. Neil Gaiman has said many times.

[00:47:05] I've repeated many times.

[00:47:06] It won't be left like this.

[00:47:08] The story will be told some way in the future, which I'm really glad about.

[00:47:11] I'm going to now take that as a promise that it will get done at some point in the future,

[00:47:16] because if it ended like this and there was no possibility of a future, it's a really

[00:47:21] sad ending for these characters.

[00:47:23] But it's been lots of fun spending time with them throughout the season. I think overall the season had some really fun stories

[00:47:31] told in the past of Azeraphyl and Crayley. It feels like the adventures of the two of

[00:47:36] them rather than just Good Omens Part 2 or Book 2. It felt more about those adventures.

[00:47:44] They did wrap it up quite well for me in this

[00:47:45] final episode as well. I think the story of how Gabriel got to where he was, I thought

[00:47:51] was told quite well on screen. I think it worked out overall as a good capper on this

[00:47:56] second season of Good Almonds, but there better be a third season. John, how about yourself?

[00:48:01] How did the season wrap up for you with this final episode.

[00:48:05] Well, I really enjoyed this final episode.

[00:48:09] I thought it was Ballsy.

[00:48:10] I'd give this five battery operated candles out of five.

[00:48:17] And it is really risky and Ballsy to finish this on a down note absolutely and

[00:48:29] But you know the richness of storytelling is that there are

[00:48:36] Stories that end with a down note and that forever

[00:48:41] you know

[00:48:43] Aziraphale as an angel,

[00:48:45] and Crowley is a demon, no matter how much

[00:48:47] the gray edges sort of start to meet.

[00:48:52] And that, you know, like any good tragic story,

[00:48:56] it's about how these two sides become incompatible

[00:49:02] and overwhelm the individual, like with Romeo and Juliet so i mean i kind of just took it from that Romeo and Juliet right i'm a story I'm really and so i

[00:49:13] like to but i can see it it is a challenge it is because i think there's a big tonal shift here with that ending in the whole.

[00:49:28] shift here with that ending from across the whole season. It's dark humour that's being applied here across the season. This is tragedy. And between two people that everyone knows

[00:49:39] and loves within the show and wants to see them together as like I do. Yeah. And I think...

[00:49:45] Or two two ended with the kiss as well.

[00:49:47] And yeah.

[00:49:48] As they finish, like they finally kiss for the first time.

[00:49:51] Yeah.

[00:49:52] And it's at the moment that they break is, as you say, it's balls hits a bit.

[00:49:56] It's a big move to do.

[00:49:58] I'm not sure what the reaction of the fandom is right now.

[00:50:01] I think they're all kind of just praying for a third season.

[00:50:03] Well, I think it's been mentioned already. And, you know, again, remember, this is a treatment

[00:50:13] from a book that had an ending, and we got that in season one. If you're moving it on,

[00:50:18] I mean, I would love to see that then back, absolutely. But that is the book, and Neil Gaiman is taking it on

[00:50:28] from that book, but still with the heart and soul

[00:50:31] of Terry Pratchett coming along with him.

[00:50:35] But it does have to be something different.

[00:50:38] And it's got to focus on something.

[00:50:42] And in a sense, it is Zirafael and Crowley. So at this moment I believe the

[00:50:48] word that there is going to be a season three. And so I'm happy with this season and I'm

[00:50:55] happy with this episode immensely. I think just in and of itself. I love covering season

[00:51:04] one because it was so different from all the shows

[00:51:06] that we covered and it still continues through season two and with our podcasts. I have an

[00:51:14] energy covering this show because it is so funny, but coupled to that are also the other sides of ourselves of sadness, tragedy and so on that comes with it.

[00:51:28] Or just brutality and metatron in speaking to Muriel as, you know, except the dim one.

[00:51:36] Muriel is lovely.

[00:51:38] Yeah. I'm the voice of God, you're dim and that's what's decided.

[00:51:46] It's just that preachiness of it.

[00:51:49] But we're talking about the topics of heaven and hell anyway.

[00:51:53] There's a lot of preachiness that happens.

[00:51:55] Just a bit, yes.

[00:51:56] But that is an important flavour to this because that is metatron.

[00:52:04] He delivers the word of God. However, uncompromising

[00:52:10] like we saw it with Jove, it is. Or whether it's as directly personal towards Muriel as

[00:52:18] the dim one. So anyway, it's just that whole collection of everything. I just think it pulled off so well with such good humor.

[00:52:27] And even though this is a big tonal shift, I absolutely believe that there will be a season

[00:52:34] three.

[00:52:35] Yeah.

[00:52:36] Yeah.

[00:52:37] You know, on our Star Wars podcast, we say in Dave Filoni, we trust well on the Good

[00:52:40] Omen's podcast in Neil Gaiman retrusts.

[00:52:45] Yes you do.

[00:52:46] You know.

[00:52:47] Look how he held out on the Sandman until he got the right thing.

[00:52:51] Yes we also said that in the Sandman podcast as well.

[00:52:53] Yes in Neil Gaiman we trust always.

[00:52:55] Exactly.

[00:52:56] And I do want to say I know Muriel had a really hard time here but she also read the first

[00:53:00] chapter of a book.

[00:53:01] Yes.

[00:53:02] They're like people only can read them and they'll have that an explanation and she got Azifel and Co the bookshop. Yes she's looking at actress.

[00:53:10] Yeah, I liked that she at least had a little bit of a happier ending than everybody else just gets

[00:53:15] to stay on earth which she was very excited to be on and then she gets to take care of the bookshop.

[00:53:19] So yeah, for me this episode five battery operated candles out of five and yeah, overall love

[00:53:29] this episode, love this season.

[00:53:31] Excellent.

[00:53:32] I liked how it was done.

[00:53:33] Yeah.

[00:53:34] Good stuff, good stuff.

[00:53:35] We get to get some thoughts on the episodes and on the season.

[00:53:39] Absolutely.

[00:53:40] Yeah.

[00:53:41] Yes.

[00:53:42] We seem to have accidentally named this section the, uh, you were right.

[00:53:45] Uh, we were wrong section, mostly because we like playing the sounder from, uh, from

[00:53:50] episode one.

[00:53:51] And we never got to see Aziraphale do the dance.

[00:53:53] No, we didn't.

[00:53:54] We thought we were going to get that or at least a flashback to it, but no, we did not.

[00:54:00] So for one last time, I'll feedback section.

[00:54:03] Yes.

[00:54:04] You were right. You were right. section. Yes. You were right. You were right.

[00:54:06] I was wrong. You were right. Excellent. Good stuff. Well fellow demons and angels. First

[00:54:14] up, an email from Christina on Blackgale couch reviews on the season. She says, my ineffable

[00:54:21] husbands, hello loves, wanted to take a moment to drop a line before

[00:54:25] you finish the season which you will before moi.

[00:54:28] I truly enjoy getting your insight into the episodes as you have a unique insight lacking

[00:54:33] from us Americans.

[00:54:35] I am enjoying this season though 6 episodes is simply not enough time to enjoy Crowley

[00:54:40] and Aziraphale but I will take what I get.

[00:54:43] The noises Crowley made when he birthed

[00:54:46] the universe followed by no more talk of dying in that high-pitched leprechaun dance

[00:54:51] remain two of my favourite Crowley moments. For Aziraphale, his detective bit and the

[00:54:57] first stare when Crowley was schooling Muriel are the highlights. I never watch Mad Men,

[00:55:03] so John Hamm isn't as familiar an actor to me,

[00:55:06] but I like his comedic style. He's like 6 foot 2. I could climb that tree anytime he asks and

[00:55:14] swing blissfully. Couldn't we all, couldn't we all, Christina? And I think Christina goes on

[00:55:22] and say, I have questions for you. How do you feel about Crowley as seen through their history continuously being the one that acts against his directive suffering the harsher punishment, whereas the zero fail remains relatively unscathed even in the present as he has been ostracized but not cast down for his actions during season one. Very good

[00:55:46] questions. Yes, I think possibly after this episode is it the grander plan of

[00:55:53] God? Because a lot of this is coming from you know Michael, Ural, Saracwell and Gabriel, as that Council of Four, but ultimately presided over by the

[00:56:10] Metatron. So I do wonder whether seeing this move by the Metatron to enlist and recruit

[00:56:20] Aziraphale to Gabriel's former position an Archangel. I wonder if it's that larger

[00:56:27] grand plan of heaven and that's why he has been relatively unscathed. Whereas Beldsabub,

[00:56:36] Shax, Daegon, the Devil, I just guess they like a bit of SNN.

[00:56:42] Well basically I guess the reaction from hell is swift and very recognizable.

[00:56:48] And I suppose to Crowley's point, heaven's reaction and heaven's punishment may not be as

[00:56:53] recognizable, but is also as as difficult and is also as bad.

[00:56:59] So exactly to say, if a zerafel is responsible for Armageddon and the death of

[00:57:04] the entire planet and all the humans on it,

[00:57:06] that'll be far worse than burning in hell for five or six years.

[00:57:12] Absolutely.

[00:57:12] It could occasionally have been the punishment.

[00:57:14] We saw Crowley was punished for being nice once that he disappeared off to hell for a while,

[00:57:19] but I would say the punishment that effectively Heaven is giving to Aziraphale could be far worse than that, and his earfowl is at, right?

[00:57:27] Absolutely. Christina also continues with her questions.

[00:57:31] Do you think, despite their connection to Earth, they feel a compulsion to be in the thick of what happens within Heaven and Hell?

[00:57:38] Crowley in Episode 1 seemed eager for news indicating a missing policy despite winning. Zirafael hops at the chance to help Gabriel, but does he think by helping him this may be

[00:57:50] an inroad back into favour? Is Zirafael capable of such impure motives? I think so. He's far

[00:57:57] more vain than he would acknowledge the same way Crowley is far more softer than he portrays.

[00:58:04] Keep up the great works as always,

[00:58:05] Christina aka Black Girl couch. Great stuff Christina. I feel that certainly a zero fail has a

[00:58:14] compulsion to be in the thick of what happens in heaven, but he does like his earth band status as well and his friendship, his relationship with with

[00:58:27] Crowley. But I think Ziravel has this overriding thought of being in team

[00:58:36] heaven. Yes. Because he's the one that needs to be led, that needs his hand held. So, you know, for me, one of the great quotes of this season

[00:58:47] is when Crowley says, I'm a demon, you know, I work to hell, but I do stuff for myself.

[00:58:55] And then Aziraphale picks that up and realizes that all these softer gray areas, in his case,

[00:59:03] slightly lighter gray for Crowley, darker grey. So I kind

[00:59:07] of like that. And I do think that his time on earth has made a zero fail more capable

[00:59:16] of impure motives by simply through that reasoning of crowly.

[00:59:24] Yeah. Yeah. That's a really good point.

[00:59:26] Yeah.

[00:59:27] I'm still a demon, but I do stuff for myself.

[00:59:29] Mm-hmm.

[00:59:30] And as Zirafel says, I'm still an angel,

[00:59:34] but I do stuff for myself, like his incessant book collections.

[00:59:37] Exactly.

[00:59:38] Or his little slightly gray white lines.

[00:59:44] Yes, exactly, exactly. Good stuff. Thanks so much, Christina. I've been listening to

[00:59:48] Christina's coverage on Black Oak H reviews. And while you say that we have an interesting

[00:59:52] perspective on Geroomans because we're not American, you also have a really interesting

[00:59:57] perspective because you are American. It makes it really fun to listen to. So thanks so much,

[01:00:01] Christina. We got an email in from Lee who sent an email in through talk at podcast.com. I completely forgot that you could get in contact with

[01:00:09] us for the entire season of the show job that you could get in contact with us through

[01:00:12] talk at podcast.com. You can just email them any messages that you have through there and Jason

[01:00:18] picks them up and sends them on to us. Excellent. I should have said that. So in on days, Jason,

[01:00:22] with loads of emails saying how much you enjoyed

[01:00:25] Good Omens podcast from TV podcast industries. He loved to hear it. Good. Yeah, absolutely.

[01:00:31] But Lee said to be welled through there. Lee says, I've been really enjoying listening to your coverage

[01:00:35] of Good Omens too and wanted to write in before you tie it up with the season finale. Personally,

[01:00:40] I thought the season was utterly delightful. Lots of fun and some comfortably nestled in bits of heart.

[01:00:45] All the returning cast were in top form, and with any new additions fitting so well, Mrs.

[01:00:50] Sandwich was a highlight of Episode 5 for me.

[01:00:53] John Finnabore also proved to be an excellent choice of writing partner for the project.

[01:00:56] I found his job, meaning so to be the strongest of the three, and his humour is a great addition

[01:01:01] to the scripts.

[01:01:02] According to Neil Gaiman, John wrote Jim's introductory scenes and really set the tone for the character, one of the funniest of the

[01:01:08] season in my opinion. It is definitely more character driven than plot driven story,

[01:01:12] which I don't think we see very often on TV shows like this, but it's a strength of Neil

[01:01:16] Gaiman's writing. While it would have been nice to see a zero-frail and or Crowley piece together

[01:01:21] the answer to the Jim mystery, maybe an opportunity for some reflection on their own relationship to be the key that unlocked the answer about the

[01:01:27] other demon angel pair. It was still a success in my eyes, it was a joy to watch and that

[01:01:31] ending left me beyond excited for a possible season 3. I watched all 6 episodes in one

[01:01:36] go, so spreading it this season with your podcast has been a real treat. Fingers crossed

[01:01:41] will eventually get a season 3 so I can do the same again. Best Lee. Thanks so much, Lee. It's great that you enjoyed this for the podcast.

[01:01:48] I know a lot of people have watched the episodes in one weekend. I'm sure it was

[01:01:53] probably built that way in some ways, but I think because it was originally

[01:01:56] set up as a show at the BBC and going on Prime Video, we were going, right,

[01:02:00] we're going to treat this as a weekly show. And I have really enjoyed spreading

[01:02:03] this out for the last six weeks. Definitely it's been a lot of fun yeah definitely and I mean

[01:02:08] also yeah getting that mystery to Gabriel to Jim through their own relationship as with Gabriel

[01:02:16] and Beelzebel I think that would have been really good I can you know I understand why people

[01:02:22] wanted them to piece this together in some way, but I'm also happy with

[01:02:27] how it's done. So I'm right there with you, Lee. Yeah, that's of options. I think a good option

[01:02:32] shows up with a could of another option. Absolutely. Thanks so much for listening along,

[01:02:37] hope you'll join us for season three or something else on TV podcast industries that might take

[01:02:41] your fantasies. Yeah, absolutely. Great stuff. We also got an email

[01:02:45] from Coffee and Vodka on episode six. It says, greetings, fellows, sadly separated defenders.

[01:02:53] You were right. You were right. I was wrong. You were right. How could I ever doubt Mr.

[01:02:58] Gamer's ability to beautifully close the story up to and including a touching homage to Staged at the very end.

[01:03:06] Every question answered no hanging threads, Nina and Maggie were not only left in a good

[01:03:11] place but proved to be the moral judges of those who would manipulate them. Gabriel in

[01:03:17] a natural change of heart after events of season 1 decided Armageddon to be a waste of time

[01:03:23] and effort, even fell in love with

[01:03:25] Beelzebub in the bargain.

[01:03:27] To be honest, I guess I do have a favourite character, that being Muriel, and she got

[01:03:32] the bookshop.

[01:03:33] Nice.

[01:03:34] Even the song was explained.

[01:03:36] Awesome.

[01:03:37] All the way round.

[01:03:39] It wasn't great to see how Crowley and Aziraphale ended up, but between this and the second coming sting, it all but

[01:03:45] angelically sings of a third season. I mean, once Aziraphale remembers all that has to happen

[01:03:52] to the world prior to the second coming, you can't be on board. And who is he going to call

[01:03:57] but Croley? It almost writes itself. This was one of the best series I've watched in a long while

[01:04:03] and look forward to what you have to say about both this episode and the full season. Five mind-filed flies,

[01:04:11] rigidly rejected romances and gormless tome traders out of five. Peace and take care,

[01:04:18] coffee vodka. Excellent coffee vodka. I like gmous tome traders to describe that Muriel now at dealing

[01:04:27] in books.

[01:04:28] Exactly.

[01:04:29] Poor Muriel.

[01:04:30] Great stuff coffee and vodka.

[01:04:33] Yeah, totally agree with you on the five out of five for this episode.

[01:04:38] Yeah, absolutely.

[01:04:39] Really well done.

[01:04:40] And I think, you know, I say that little twist of Nina and Maggie being, you know, the moral

[01:04:47] judges on those who have been morally manipulating them.

[01:04:52] And it's just,

[01:04:53] Are you morally manipulated?

[01:04:54] I'm sorry, I'm getting morally questioned.

[01:04:56] Well, the intent was right.

[01:04:58] At least, well, or was it?

[01:05:02] Because I'd say it was for love, but actually it was to hide the fact that the miracle ultimately in the end and but you're right I think it's a really good sort of and punch of humanism into this angelic and demonic Absolutely, absolutely. Good catch on the homage to Stage,

[01:05:26] to where they have each of them on their own separate camera

[01:05:29] separated right at the end of the episode.

[01:05:31] I wouldn't have called to that was from Stage,

[01:05:32] but it makes total sense.

[01:05:34] That's the reference.

[01:05:35] Brilliant stuff, thanks for joining us on the journey

[01:05:37] as well, Coffee Vodka.

[01:05:38] Absolutely.

[01:05:39] It was great to get your feedback on each of the episodes.

[01:05:41] Good stuff, thanks Coffee and Vodka.

[01:05:43] We also got an email from Lara Willy Swink who says,

[01:05:46] Oh, what just happened?

[01:05:47] I'm gonna have to give the whole season a second watch,

[01:05:49] but I don't even know how to feel about this finale.

[01:05:52] After five whole episodes of Humor, Leveriam, and Whimsey,

[01:05:56] and the last two episodes filled with romance to the end

[01:05:58] with our inevitable duo essentially splitting up,

[01:06:01] and after finally confronting the feelings they had for each other,

[01:06:04] I was crestfallen. My daughter definitely was unhappy. I know our Angel and Demon won't

[01:06:08] stay apart forever, but what a way to leave us after the heartwarming ending of season

[01:06:12] 1, and if we don't get a season 3 to resolve this whole bombshell, I will never forgive

[01:06:16] Amazon. As for the episode, I recognised the metatron when he walked into the bookshop.

[01:06:21] Why didn't the other Angels? Was he not also at Gabriel's trial?

[01:06:25] I'm sure that he's up to no good. He gave Crowley quite the side eye before he made his proposal to

[01:06:30] a zero fail. I'd like the unexpected romance between Gabriel and Bill at the B.L. Zebub,

[01:06:34] love apparently changed him from a pompous douchebag into a decent guy, at least he'll be able to

[01:06:39] retain his sense of style. But they get to be the first Aida Divine, demonic, couple and not

[01:06:45] Crowley and a Zirafael. They just got together 5 minutes ago while our boys have been playing

[01:06:49] Cat and Mace for millennia. Overall I enjoyed the season and was happy to step back into

[01:06:53] one of Gaiman's more cheerful worlds despite the ending and explore Crowley and Zirafael's

[01:06:58] history and character growth some more, but I did go back and watch part of season 1 and felt

[01:07:02] it was a fuller, more fleshed out story.

[01:07:05] I did hear in an interview with Neil that this season is a quieter, more romantic season.

[01:07:08] And should a season 3 come around, it will not be quiet, gentle and romantic.

[01:07:13] As for my daughter Layla's review, apart from the ending, she was delighted.

[01:07:16] I thought I'd share that she has a theory before the fall.

[01:07:19] Crowley was actually the Archangel Raphael.

[01:07:22] She says he's the only Archangel who hasn't appeared on the show

[01:07:25] and she thinks that Crowley was once one of the most powerful angels. Should we ever get a season

[01:07:30] three? I guess we'll find out. Thank you again for another season of excellent coverage, John and

[01:07:35] Derek and Kristin Spears. Lara Willy Swink. Great stuff Lara. I really hope Layla's

[01:07:42] theory pans out there and tell her to sort of dig deep because I'm

[01:07:46] convinced we're going to get a season three on this and hopefully if it's not going to

[01:07:52] be as romantic, gentle or quiet, you know, it's going to be certainly bigger, better

[01:08:00] and better than this one. But I hope she's, I hope your daughter is doing well after the

[01:08:10] shock of the ending. And yeah, I like the theory around Archangel Raphael, because yes, we haven't

[01:08:17] had Raphael, yes, we haven't. And that could be a good one. And given that we do see Crowley creating the universe or designing it, I should say,

[01:08:30] was pretty powerful stuff. And certainly then if you start asking pesky questions as Messertrand says, and then yeah, I guess.

[01:08:38] Did he have a mind wiped and said, I said, don't I have to now read your bon Raphael. I just, the angels, I don't know them.

[01:08:46] Yes. Yeah. There's a few even on the show that I didn't know before.

[01:08:50] Oh, the one that's the show.

[01:08:52] Yes. Remember Michael though.

[01:08:54] And Michael, yes. And Michael as well.

[01:08:56] But Sarah Cole, Uriel and Muriel.

[01:09:01] Yeah, even now. Yes.

[01:09:02] And hopefully as well, Laura,

[01:09:05] we've maybe explained the Messertron gag.

[01:09:08] I think it's just a gag.

[01:09:10] I think it is a silly, ridiculous gag

[01:09:15] of Monty Python style, stupidness,

[01:09:19] because it had me laughing all the way through.

[01:09:23] I didn't get it if it was a guy.

[01:09:25] Now remember, there is also kind of a running joke as well,

[01:09:29] that angels and demons aren't recognizing each other.

[01:09:31] FERFER had gone to Crowley, that remember we worked alongside

[01:09:34] each other right back at the full and didn't recognize him.

[01:09:37] Here we have...

[01:09:38] We were all overall with them, but that was with the miracle

[01:09:41] that there was an explanation behind that.

[01:09:43] And did in Seroquel even say in this episode to Crowley that they'd worked together

[01:09:46] on the creation of a universe at the beginning?

[01:09:48] Yes.

[01:09:48] And Crowley didn't recognize her either.

[01:09:50] So it could be an ongoing thing of angels and demons on Earth, not being able

[01:09:54] to recognize each other in some way unless they have a specific connection.

[01:09:58] Or it could just be a good gag.

[01:10:00] Yeah.

[01:10:00] I like the gag idea.

[01:10:02] Like the longevity of these beings means their time scales are completely different, aren't they as well?

[01:10:09] But it just made me chuckle all the way through, along with the Mesotron, and don't be so wet-lined,

[01:10:19] just because of how it was delivered. I would say technically on a script

[01:10:27] that's not even supposed to be funny.

[01:10:29] It's probably not even funny to 99% of the people

[01:10:32] that watch it were just the way Mesotron delivered

[01:10:35] that line to all these panicky angels

[01:10:37] after Gabriel's gone AWOL.

[01:10:39] I was just like, that's kind of hilarious.

[01:10:42] It's like-

[01:10:43] Power of Derek Jack could be.

[01:10:44] Yeah, no nonsense.

[01:10:47] Just stop it, pull yourself together.

[01:10:48] Yes.

[01:10:49] You know?

[01:10:50] Kind of line.

[01:10:51] But great stuff, Lara.

[01:10:52] Absolutely, and great to hear from it.

[01:10:54] Hopefully we'll have Chris back for maybe season three of Good Omens.

[01:10:58] As we know, Chris is dealing with his own little armageddon at home with his little baby.

[01:11:04] Yes, his Angel of Chaos. His own Angel of Chaos, excellent.

[01:11:08] Yeah. Great stuff. Thanks again, Laura. On Facebook, Kelsey Oakeses, you will certainly

[01:11:14] ball your eyes out. I guess now you know what the word every means. I'm sending you two hugs

[01:11:20] in advance. Thank you, Kelsey. Thanks, Kelsey.

[01:11:23] Yes, I think the tissue count was quite high on this one.

[01:11:28] I think so.

[01:11:29] And I think the ending, it was drawn out even more with the credits rolling between the lovers

[01:11:36] torn apart.

[01:11:37] Exactly, exactly.

[01:11:39] Cheryl Jones says, wow, that's short-took an unexpected turn. Was there something in

[01:11:42] the coffee?

[01:11:43] So very sad.

[01:11:45] It probably should have been brandy after that ending.

[01:11:49] To be honest, Cheryl.

[01:11:50] Instead of a shot of caramel in the oat milk lassay.

[01:11:55] Yes.

[01:11:56] Fate caramel sugar, yes, exactly.

[01:11:59] Once there may be something that Massatron put in the coffee.

[01:12:03] Could have been, could have been,

[01:12:12] Jeff Giles has a different take on the finale. What a waste of great performances. That ending was a huge let down. The big mystery was a big mayor. I won't be watching season three. Oh no.

[01:12:18] Oh no, Jeff. Um, come back. All is forgiven. Would you even be tempted for watching season 3?

[01:12:26] Let's hope the devil on your shoulder tempts you towards season 3.

[01:12:32] That's such a shame that you didn't enjoy it, Jeff. Maybe, as John says, when I come

[01:12:37] to season 3, you may have watched it again, changed your mind, or maybe you'll give it

[01:12:43] a go when there's a different storyline

[01:12:45] in the third season. But thanks so much for sending in your thoughts, Jeff. We also got

[01:12:49] a message in from Dr. Bob Phillips who says this was heartbreaking and wonderful and achingly

[01:12:55] difficult to leave like this. If the third season gets novelized, there has to be an audio book,

[01:12:59] rotentant and sheen reading it. The whole of the bookshop battle was superb, the idiocy of the invite, the extensive use of fire extinguishers, the mindlessness of the demons and the extruded

[01:13:11] explosive. The wrap of the whole Gabriel B.L's above story in its beautiful poignant,

[01:13:17] Edinburgh encrusted gorgeousness, including the most romantic of record destroying miracles

[01:13:22] was done with such a lovely concise short hand.

[01:13:25] I felt like a televersion of a double page spread of panels giving snapshots through time.

[01:13:30] And then the love that Dernaut expressed itself finally ineffable, effed and unable to be

[01:13:35] accepted, finishing like staged with two landscape screens filled with the faces of the Heaven

[01:13:41] Cross lovers.

[01:13:42] And that's not mentioning the musical cues, the unchanging passwords, the Machiavellian metatron master, and the subtle choice of the Crow

[01:13:49] Road to nudge Muriel towards an appreciation of humanity as they begin their task and babysit

[01:13:55] the bookshop.

[01:13:56] Yes, of course. Yes, the Crow Road by Ian M. Banks.

[01:14:00] Yes, that's the book that Muriel is reading inside, I think it is.

[01:14:03] Very good. A Scottish sci-fi author.

[01:14:06] I wouldn't have got that connection.

[01:14:08] Great call out there.

[01:14:09] Absolutely.

[01:14:10] Good stuff, Dr. Bob.

[01:14:12] So glad you enjoyed this because it is.

[01:14:14] It was wonderfully heartbreaking and difficult to leave it like this, as you say.

[01:14:21] But I think hopefully the third season will get televised first off before it being

[01:14:28] novelised. But if it gets novelised, yes, an audiobook with those two Dorset tones reading

[01:14:35] it would be super.

[01:14:37] It would be perfect, yes. But the commitment is that it will get out there somehow, right?

[01:14:42] Regardless, if that could be a TV show, it will definitely

[01:14:45] be in the book. Yes, absolutely. Good stuff. Thanks so much, Dr. Bob, for your feedback

[01:14:50] for this episode and of course throughout the season. We also had Jules van der Leiden,

[01:14:55] who said, after the finale, I was screaming, crying and throwing up. Well, Jules, we hope

[01:15:02] you've stopped crying and we certainly hope you've stopped throwing up as well. Well, Jules, we hope you've stopped crying and we certainly hope you've stopped

[01:15:06] throwing up as well. Hopefully it was just a little throw up from that air, but certainly

[01:15:12] yes it was. And an ending that shook people.

[01:15:17] Yes it was. It was absolutely.

[01:15:19] Good stuff. Thanks Jules.

[01:15:21] Thanks so much Jules. We also got a last minute email in from Jennifer Aftu, who says,

[01:15:26] Hi folks, I've been enjoying the Good Omens podcast very much, as it's so nice to hear

[01:15:29] intelligent and insightful analysis that show from people who love it as much as I do.

[01:15:33] I have a comment about the last episode of Season 2, though.

[01:15:36] I've read and heard descriptions of a Zirafel and Crowley sharing a kiss.

[01:15:40] I would like to note that the kiss is not exactly shared as Crowley forcefully kisses

[01:15:43] a Zirafel, with Ed's consent. Of course, this is just what you would expect from a demon, but I want to put

[01:15:48] it out that this incredibly intense scene is not an example of two people sharing a kiss.

[01:15:53] If you're thinking of kissing someone in the future, please talk that piece of information

[01:15:56] away for future use, says Jay. Yeah, absolutely. You know, as we say, it is that moment. It's not

[01:16:02] done in the way that fans would have expected it.

[01:16:05] It's done in the moment where Crowley is severing the relationship between him and Aziraphale.

[01:16:11] It's that final moment where he's effectively pushing him away with a kiss in the scene.

[01:16:17] But I don't think that's what fans were expecting when they were saying. We hope the two of

[01:16:21] them finally get together in season two.

[01:16:24] Yeah, exactly. It Certainly wasn't clearly there.

[01:16:25] Well, you know, Zirafael says nothing lasts forever and Crowley says, no, I don't suppose it does.

[01:16:31] You know, just before Crowley says you idiot, we could have been us.

[01:16:38] Exactly.

[01:16:39] And goes for this.

[01:16:40] That it felt like a one last chance. Yeah, I mean you you have a zero fell touching his lips

[01:16:48] Like it's almost as though what's just happened exactly the mused bias. Yeah, or surprise fires again

[01:16:55] Remember Nina and Maggie had the talk with Crowley

[01:16:58] They didn't have the talk with a zero trail and throughout the season when anybody broke the topic with the Zero Trail, while we understand that a Zero Trail does love Crowley, he hasn't accepted himself

[01:17:09] at all. He hasn't declared his love for Crowley at any stage throughout the season. So, yeah,

[01:17:15] very good point there, Maden.

[01:17:16] Yeah, good stuff. Thanks, Jen. Finally, we also have a voicemail in from Anwen in New Zealand.

[01:17:23] Yes, we do. Anwen caught all the way up to us

[01:17:26] after starting season two of the show just a couple of weeks ago. Take it away, Alman.

[01:17:32] Hi Derek and John. What an absolute emotional roller coaster that final episode was.

[01:17:39] Loved it so much and I love all of the little unexpected quirks. I thought it was great that

[01:17:46] Nina and Maggie kind of emotionally recognised each other but also accepted that Nina wasn't

[01:17:52] really for a relationship yet. It made it much more realistic. I absolutely adored Beow's

[01:17:58] a Bub and Gabriel. What a cool story. I didn't expect that at all and then looking back you

[01:18:04] realised, oh yeah there was a little fly that had a huge part to do with it.

[01:18:07] And I still didn't click, but it was beautiful. Lovely to watch.

[01:18:11] And then at the very end, oh my god,

[01:18:15] Azera Fau and Crowley, so heartbreaking.

[01:18:19] So incredible. Of course you kind of wanted them to get together but I think it did make a better story

[01:18:27] and just more heart wrenching and beautiful and tragic that they didn't.

[01:18:32] The acting has just superb. The writing, I love the status quo. It's so static and quoey.

[01:18:39] And just the acting and that final couple of scenes, David Tenet and Michael Sheen just knocked it out of the park.

[01:18:47] Their facial expressions just expressing so much,

[01:18:51] so much emotion and being so torn and heartbroken.

[01:18:57] Oh, it was just fantastic.

[01:18:58] I'm emotionally run out, loved, loved, loved it.

[01:19:02] It was really great as well,

[01:19:03] having watched season one so recently

[01:19:05] to see the little flashback of the first Armageddon and all our favourite characters from back then.

[01:19:11] Thank you so much for your incredible coverage. I've really, really enjoyed going along on this

[01:19:17] journey with you and my last thing to say to you guys is I think you should become an animal husband sooner

[01:19:26] than later and that New Zealand is the absolute ideal location for a honeymoon. Bye!

[01:19:34] Excellent stuff and I mean thank you so much for the feedback really glad you enjoyed our coverage and certainly, yeah, it was such a roller coaster

[01:19:46] ride. A big thank you for the offer of New Zealand. Yes. Come on, Derek, get the tickets

[01:19:55] dropped off. New Zealand is definitely on the list for a place to visit, whether it's

[01:20:00] for our honeymoon or whether it's just for our own holiday in the future. We will definitely be going to the New Zealand. I want to go back and John's never been.

[01:20:09] And as a big Lord of the Rings fan, he would be dying to see every single location used for

[01:20:15] Lord of the Rings I think. Absolutely. Certainly, Rohan in particular, Edras.

[01:20:28] in particular, Edras. My powers of Lord of the Rings and being a Jogfer, that location was just spectacular. I guess there's obviously

[01:20:32] nothing there left but yeah that was just superb. And Helms Deep, some of the

[01:20:39] sort of establishing shots around there, just so good But I mean, all of it is just so, like such a pretty country.

[01:20:47] And certainly from a Jogfas point of view,

[01:20:50] lots of things like glaciers and mountains.

[01:20:52] Absolutely.

[01:20:53] You know, I quite like that stuff.

[01:20:55] I did tell you that Anwoon was an extra

[01:20:57] in Lord of the Rings and worked at Eddress.

[01:21:00] So she's been in the full version of that.

[01:21:03] Wow. How cool is that?

[01:21:04] That's very cool. Awesome. But thanks so much for your thoughts of that. Wow. Cool as that.

[01:21:05] That's very cool.

[01:21:06] Awesome.

[01:21:07] But thanks so much for your thoughts on it.

[01:21:08] I'm glad you were able to take the ride with us and get to the finale along the same time

[01:21:11] as us.

[01:21:12] That's really cool as well.

[01:21:13] Great stuff.

[01:21:14] Thanks for joining us to everybody for this season of Good Omens, for season two of Good

[01:21:18] Omens.

[01:21:19] Yes, we will be back with Good Omens season three, which was in development when the

[01:21:24] races and the actor strike began. So when we will be back with Good Om in Season 3, which was in development when the writers and the

[01:21:25] actor strike began.

[01:21:26] So when we will be back, we don't have that crystal ball yet.

[01:21:31] But when finally the studios agree a deal, we hope that Amazon is quick to pen a deal

[01:21:38] with Neil Gaiman to go on the season 3 journey with him. And hopefully it will be to allow

[01:21:45] all those fellow angels and demons to go

[01:21:48] on that journey of season three as well.

[01:21:52] So they hopefully are before years

[01:21:54] between the two seasons like it was between season one two.

[01:21:56] Yeah, that's true.

[01:21:57] That's true.

[01:21:58] But worth the wait.

[01:21:59] Exactly, exactly.

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[01:24:36] Exactly.

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