"When We Go" (FROM S3E2)

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the show, my name is Alex.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Lizzie.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Today we are talking from, because Sunday is from day, and we have a special, special guest

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: with us.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully I say your name right because we're talking about names.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy Sharok, he's just kind of a super fan and connected online.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into all the things that Andy is in terms of the show, I just want to say

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: couple things.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: One, Sunday is from day and if you are a subscriber, thank you so much.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to be a subscriber, all you have to do is hit that bell, hit that whatever

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: is on the bottom, whatever that thing is, and never else.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, if you're looking for from a leash shirts or anything else, you can go to our Etsy

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: shop, which is what is from shop on Etsy.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're selling stuff left and right, aren't we, Lizzie?

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a little brisk.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We're working on season two poster, but we do have a season one poster and all that good

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But enough about selling, enough about us.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy, why don't you tell us first off, did you get involved with the show?

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I am just a fan, but I guess I can tell the story if you guys want to hear the story of

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: how it came to my face.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was at LAX and they canceled my flight at one in the morning.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And they rebooked me.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: The fastest flight, the next flight they could get me on was the same flight the next

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: night.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like at 11 or something.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And I had been on like a skate filming trip in LA for like three days and I had seen the

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: posters from, in Hollywood there's like everything going on.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's always all these posters and they like it caught my eye.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course I saw that it was from us, you know, the producers are lost.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, okay, let's check it out.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I like got to the LAX the next day and I had all day.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just sitting in the Delta lounge and I was like, how am I going to kill a whole

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: day other than working?

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't want to work.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to have fun.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I passed the time by booting up from and I was actually, I almost turned it off because

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: the first scene is so gnarly.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It is so if you, and I'm not a scary person, I don't like that kind of stuff, but I'm

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: going to tell you once you get past that, it's off that.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It is a very important scene to have because it like shows you immediately that's like

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: these are the stakes.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The first two episodes work as like one, right?

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Essentially.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's, I don't understand how someone can watch those two and not just like just full

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: steam ahead.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm watching every episode.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So the reason I can watch horror, I can watch scary stuff, but like as a dad, it was like

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: to me, I was like that scene was like intense.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So I kept going and when I got to the like the fifth or sixth episode, there were no

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: more to watch.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, okay, this is not okay.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and you were really in the beginning.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it was, I mean, and it's just because of posters.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I probably would have, I would have heard about it at some point, but

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm really excited that I got to count it.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I wasn't there like day one, but that was like, you know, week five or six.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it was for me.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I just love how people are starting to find the show.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I found the show from Lizzie.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You found the show from a poster and it's really taken off this season.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you that have just joined us, I know we are talking

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: to Andy about his journey with from, but we are talking season three

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: episode two, when we go.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And what I'd like to do first, if I don't let her talk, Andy,

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: she's going to get me.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's have, let's have our my my partner in crime.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What's your first thoughts on the episode?

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, last week was easy for taking notes.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very straightforward.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: This week it was crazy.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe everything that I have to talk about so much.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a lot of information.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a lot of information.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is just the first two pages go this way.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That's just pages one and two.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So, Andy, just so you know, she has her book of secrets.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: She also has a board of a pain in my ass.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And she is all in and she is ready to go.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: What was your what was your first thoughts, Andy, on the

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: episode?

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was ready by how much this whole season is hyped up.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to only get darker and darker and darker.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I was ready for just another punch in the gut.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm really glad that they let us just like it was really beautiful that

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: the whole cast of characters, they were able to just take a beat and really

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: like let this hit them.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think as the audience, you needed that too.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it was like a therapeutic like dealing with what has happened.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And but there's definitely some things that came up that as with every episode,

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: it's going to raise a question and in some things that don't necessarily make sense.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: That's my initial thought, I guess, though, just

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that's fine. No, that's fine.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked to Liz Moy last week and, you know,

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I was I was being delusional by saying right now you are not dead.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, listen, when they pull somebody's hair off or head off,

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: God, that was awful.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: That was awful.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is if you look at the trailer, it gives it away big time.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And we talked about that in our in our, you know,

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: we're talking about the trailer.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised I didn't edit out the like the mural with the picture on the plate.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm really surprised.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to me.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, you also have everyone saying they're probably doing that

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: just to trick trick us or something and or it was a vision.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a dream.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So you never know what you're actually doing.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I will say this.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you look at the trailer and you start watching where the scenes

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: are, it's really neat how it's coming through.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy, anytime you want to jump in in terms of a point where we have a little bit

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: of a list of what we're going to do, please jump in.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And if we end up going in a different direction, hey, we're all human here.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's you know, I'm just trying to rustle cats.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the first one can be these two.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Easy.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what's that?

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The big thing with this episode that like the biggest question that raised in my

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: mind was like a timetable, the timetable with Victor's family.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And like yeah.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And it also makes me think that like his dad is who's apparently 75.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: If you do the math because he's like, he's like, right?

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He looks good.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to like put all he looks great for 75 and Victor looks more

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: haggard from just like existing in that place.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So like there's not a big level of like visual difference because like

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and it makes me wonder if they're going to use that to say like the place ages

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: people like slightly faster and then they could keep Ethan without explaining much.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the good thing about this show

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: because they have monsters and they have all this other stuff.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this last last episode.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The kids are getting older.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And they got to explain.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they have to.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it explains itself.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, if you think about how fast Ethan's leg healed.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's only been a couple of weeks.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So but his leg can heal that fast.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Then he could age as well.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But and I just thought about this right now.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: If you think about young Victor, he's getting older.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Eliza's getting older and the actor that plays him.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It goes along the lines of him looking like crap now because he's getting older

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and away we go.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know what?

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I see some I see some friends on here

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and then we'll get into a very emotional episode.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I know people cried.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But Lizzie, let's get into speaking of the father, Tabitha and Henry.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And Henry's understanding.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What was what was what was your take on all that?

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So gosh, I mean,

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I basically have one page just on Tabitha and Henry.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted to start there so we could start outside of from I know.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, they did a lot so that we could start outside of from and then spend the

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: rest of the time inside.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But basically, you know, we start out with Henry still very suspicious of Tabitha

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and why she's there.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not until she mentions the children

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that he starts to believe her.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: all this stuff I was going to all this stuff that I wrote.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't get important to me until they go into the basement.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like that.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like in while he is delivering his monologue,

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think is important, I'm just going to read it a little bit.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know,

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: he says it's a place that was everywhere because this is what

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Victor's mom was talking about all the time, that it was a place that was everywhere.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But you couldn't find it if you tried somewhere you could stumble into from

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: anywhere, but never find a way to leave.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She said there were people there, people who were lost and afraid,

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: who found themselves living inside of a nightmare that they couldn't escape.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Fighting a battle they knew they couldn't win.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: She said they were holding on to hope.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And when that hope was gone, they held on to each other.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where we're in the funeral.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: They're all sitting there.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It all sounded like riddles.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: She said that of all the people that would find their way to this place,

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: she was the one who had been chosen to free the children, but she wasn't the first.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Others had been chosen before her.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: She could see each and every one and all of them had failed.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: None of them had ever set the children free.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: None of them had ever gone home.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you've seen the children, if they've called to you,

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: then I guess you've been chosen now too.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So how did you get out?

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: In the whole time,

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha is looking at the paintings that Victor's mother had created.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, I saw the diner, the lighthouse, a man in yellow.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty much everything.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything. Yeah.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was like a man coming out of the church windows like the church.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So we were going to see that, I hope.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, I thought that was crazy.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what's going on in the church is the church a key, you know?

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So wait, I have a question for you guys.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Victor's mom was dead, died and from or did she get out?

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it sounds like she got out.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Victor says he found her body.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understand that.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But like my question is how can she be there?

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Have that story.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And then even when.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, OK.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, guys.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is the thing that's a this is the thing I'm not understanding is.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So she's the only person that we know that knows about from before from with a.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: With the which except the dream, I guess, with Elgin or.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, yeah.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, there's another person.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: There's another person.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But but I'm just saying just on the bus too when he was there.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, have you have you been on a Greyhound lately?

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wonder if Elgin is the backup if like because Tabitha didn't start

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about the kids until she saw the kids, right?

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I and the ton of right.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So if Elgin hasn't seen the kids, maybe he's the backup.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very strange how it's just very strange.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I'm saying.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the first bit that we've heard of somebody having the the knowledge

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: of this place before on the outside.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That was my point.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering how she knew where to go so that she could cross in.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the question I thought it's like my wife and I are

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: watching it with our 12 year old who's also obsessed and he does great with it,

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: by the way, he's an old soul.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And better than.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And he and we were just like, OK, so maybe she found out a way to get in.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And if that's the case, why would she take her kids?

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I don't get unless they were they were supposed to go with her.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I felt bad for the dad.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when he mentions that he didn't listen to what everyone was saying about him,

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: because I mean, he had to have been, you know,

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: grilled by the cops and everyone must have thought that he did something.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. You know, unless she was doing all this dreaming.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, making these paintings.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And then she came across the log just just so happened she happened.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the kids brought her in because she.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, for all we know, I would have just been going to the grocery store or

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: having picked up from school.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's true. That's true.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was wondering because he's talking about,

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, her painting, all these people that and then that others had been

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: sent or chosen and didn't, you know, it didn't happen.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was wondering, you know, was the guy in the yellow suit?

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Was he one? Was the Civil War soldier?

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's early.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Gosh, it feels like even prior to colonial soldier, did you see the one soldier

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: with the like the stove pot? Yeah.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He seemed like he was fine.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He seemed like he was fine.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I was no fun.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I was joking.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha used to be fun.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But like and then going back to the church with the light coming out,

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: all those crosses, but it seemed like a lot more than what's actually there right now.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, the whole like the whole episode with front to back from it goes from him

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: not believing her and she's talking about a place like she's giving him

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: enough information that that he didn't believe until he heard about the children.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And then when he goes in the basement, he knows everything about the place

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: in a sense, you know, I was like, it was strange to me that

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and maybe it's because it's, you know, 40 years ago and it's like it had to

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: unlock with the children.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But I thought that was also he knows a lot of information for not believing her

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: in the first place.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. I think he was on guard because, you know, you have to remember

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: he probably has been dealing with this.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you tell people this story, it's crazy.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And if he said to the cops, listen, my wife has been having these visions

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: of kids and seeing and lights and this and that.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I totally understand he probably had some people that were

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: crazies that were either making a quote, unquote, making fun of them, bullying

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and whatever.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Versus, I mean, you know, so I mean, there's a lot.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of layers to this.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not a it's not a band-aid that you want to rip off anytime soon.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because he probably kept telling himself it was also something that he

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: could have blamed her for like she was having all the stuff.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't true.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And then she went and disappeared.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he could have like blamed all of that for her and her having like a illness.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why he lost his family.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But he didn't he didn't say anything that suggested that.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had to have been really grilled by the cops.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And he must have had an airtight alibi for when they went missing.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, going, you know,

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: bringing the cops downstairs and showing them those paintings.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are crazy paintings.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. That's a there's a lot to take in.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Although it looks like this this one, I can't think of what the name of this one is.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that famous screen.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what they look like.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: What's really interesting about the paintings, Lizzie and Andy and we're

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: talking Andy Schrock, episode two of season three is the one big painting of the

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's the children.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. It's in Victor's room.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of the pictures that they show in the beginning of the show in the intro.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like both of those things were downstairs.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Both the paintings were in the basement.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying the paintings in the basement.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of those paintings are in Victor's room.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, like he's drawing them too.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's drawing the painting.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's you know, unfortunately.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And and for those of you that are just watching because I know some of your

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: peeps are on here like Galaxy the game got gaming and a whole bunch of other guys.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: This show is a puzzle show is as Lizzie likes to say and everything has a meaning.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that Lizzie's hair is down has a meaning versus up.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that that actual diploma or whatever that is behind you has a meaning.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, whatever those are, it has a meaning.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, so send them to me to put them up.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think like, you know, I'm just saying,

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, that's that's that's the way Lizzie rolls.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So but I really think that the interaction and just so you folks know,

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to be talking to Tabatha and Victor's dad this week.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to be posting that next week for next week's episode.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, stay tuned for that.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Long.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get it out as quickly as we can.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: One of us actually get to go on vacation twice a year.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of the weekends that we get to go on vacation.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I never go on vacation.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not you know,

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: twice anyway, so back to Tabatha and and and Victor's dad.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: What else you got?

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: One thing I wanted to mention.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So as they're going down into the basement,

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, I caught a glimpse of the rocking horse.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So then I had to rewind.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I saw that's in.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It looks I didn't get a chance to go back.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it might be the same

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: rocking horse that was in the caves.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember one of those old fashioned kitchen stools,

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think is in the cave.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe we saw a bird cage in the cave.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a red wagon in the cage.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it was a sled.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So I can also see horse.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that maybe that's where I saw the rocking horse.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was kind of like, I mean, all of those things are things you would find

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_02]: in a typical basement if you had kids.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, actually, that's an era.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And like that kitchen stool, I remember seeing stools like that when I was a kid,

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, and you go to like thrift stores or estate sales and stuff.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You still see those, you know, they're still out and about.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But and we know the red wagon hasn't gone anywhere.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's like the quintessential toy for all kids, you know.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I just wanted to mention that before we moved on.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: My second thing is

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Jim and Kenny coming back into town, not realizing anything is a mess.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, them finding food, they're very happy because they found a lot of

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: food, but my question is, and this is all I've got to say about that is,

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_02]: is this place giving them hope?

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That they're planting a seed and that's not going to end well.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that place where they found the food, like my thought was like, what if

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: other people like actually exist there?

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they're going to say you took you started a war by taking our stuff and

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: we don't, you know, or yeah.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, my take on it is a couple of things because I've been looking at the from,

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, Facebook pages and whatever else.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It could be a war.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the first thing it could be.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It could be a lot of people think that it's previous

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: from people back in the day and they just died.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't have anything because if you remember,

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: they heard noises out there.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Right.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So friends, foes or monsters.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Something exactly.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm you know what I'm wondering?

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's just occurring to me right now.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: If now I can't spell perennial.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I can either.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: If OK, got it.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, our cabbages perennial.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Like is that something that would come up again and again on its own?

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a biennial.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like perfect.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Like suspicious.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I just know one thing.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think that that town could either be out of that area,

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: might be just out of bounds or or the monsters just don't give a crap about it

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: right now because maybe there's several froms areas.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean you could take a deep dive.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that place had been

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: a front area because of the scarecrow's, the wooden scarecrow's.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they work.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, maybe they work or maybe.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, as people settle, they settle in different places.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there was lore that went with those cabins.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when people set up house, they set up on that main street and found out

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: much to their chagrin.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It was not a safe neighborhood.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no roads.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So like that's a very that takes it back to a very, you know.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the other points, one of the other things I think is kind of interesting is.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Boyd.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Went out there, went to the spiders and whatever else.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You got Kenny and Matthews.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They go out and they have a different experience.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a freaky experience with those scarecrow slash whatever it was.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: There was no spider webs.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There was none of that, you know,

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: what kind of means?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think what kind of maze are the monsters trying to play with them?

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I mean, I think this whole season is about playing with your food.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we talked about that with when we talked to Harold, you know,

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they're just they're just trying to mess with them.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I know they don't want to kill Boyd because they just want to torture

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you because we would be too easy.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that there's something there's something about there's something

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: to that where you as the viewer, you're just scared this season.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I feel like we're going into this.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's it's funny that that the winter was on accident because

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I learned that from listening to you two.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought it was just to make you feel unsafe,

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: like cold, no food, you know, death right away.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, OK, they're just trying to make you very, very unsafe.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's working. All of the actors are saying it only gets darker.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And and I was thinking about about how what they did to Boyd in the barn.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like as depressing and not hopeful as this season wants to make us feel.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The fact that they're messing with Boyd, then is that they something

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_04]: that someone is doing in that they view him as a threat.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they wouldn't they would just kill him.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But the fact that they're messing with them probably means

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: they have to take him down a notch because they view him as a threat,

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_04]: which says that they can turn the tides in some aspect.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I'm wondering if they see him as a threat.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, basically he taunted them at the end of the last season.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like you can't break me or was it no, it was the end of last season.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was episode.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It was season.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It was the beginning.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It was.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, and that's that's what they lead with in the barn.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I mean, it could just be sadistic.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that they are alive because he's fighting to keep so many other people

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: alive that he could be the aside.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to wonder about Donna.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He could be the toughest one to break because he's so filled with hope.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is if he dies,

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: it's all it's going to be like a house of cards.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And they want to keep him around.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They want to keep him around to keep this game going.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But to your point, Lizzie, somebody just posted any annual or bi-annual could

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: self seed, but the plants are weeded, other things.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just wanted to kind of throw that out there because I know how much

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: that's important to you and to all the viewers because self seeding

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: cabbage is where it's at right now.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Do a lot with cabbage.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You can do you can make a lot of cabbage soup.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You can roll you can make leaves or cabbage leaves.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm Middle Eastern, so if you can't stuff it with meat and rice,

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: then we don't want the snow being said when come when Kenny comes into town,

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: he's got all this food.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, somebody had said it in the comments and I didn't I didn't

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: for whatever reason I didn't pin it.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But that was that was just heartbreaking.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like there's a joke and they don't know what it is kind of thing.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. All right.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's leave them there because we still need to go see Victor, not Victor.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Jade and boy.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's the next morning, Jade and Victor are in the barn.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Victor doesn't want Jade to go outside, but Jade has to.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He has to know what's going on.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So he finds Boyd in the barn handcuffed to the

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to the beam and, you know, in a way, I was kind of I don't know.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of hoping they wouldn't leave him that way.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It might make him look suspicious if he was loose in that barn and Tian Chen

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: was dead like that.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, they all know that the mouse would have out.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I was surprised there was no suspicion on him.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Exactly.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone, it was exactly.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: They're on the edge already.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Blood on him and stuff.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So he's repeating Tian Chen's last words over and over again as if

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: he doesn't want to forget it.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe that's the only thing from keeping him from losing his mind.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I really didn't want to see Mrs.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou like that.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was awful.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It was awful.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought they stopped before it could have got a lot worse.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was like, how much is going to be watching that?

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't need to see it.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It was I will say this.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to her character and let's just talk about her character for a second.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: She we're going to get into what ended up happening, but she really was

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the mother of Frump.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, in the scene, the scene before, I mean, the episode before,

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: she's got Ethan by the head, the other hand.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: She she yells at Jade when he first comes in and can't knees.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she is the pulse of the town feeding the community.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And even like,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, Donna, Donna respected her more than anybody.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it was kind of like, you know, yes, it's Donna and Boyd.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Boyd's she's just a she's just a great cog in the whole thing.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really beautiful how, like I said earlier,

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: we got to take a beat and just mourn her along with the characters.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And just to see everyone pretty much got their reaction.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to see everyone kind of taking it in.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And and the episode is masterfully written, of course, as it always is,

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_04]: how it comes together with the with Henry's monologue.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And it goes into the funeral when you're seeing both, you know,

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: both of the stories come together.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just wow.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no one's drugging them anymore.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if somebody else may.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, Jade frees Boyd.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And my question is,

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: is Boyd broken yet?

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think he is like looking at him in that moment.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He seemed kind of broken.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's cracking.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But that way.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He pulls Ellis aside.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, here's it begins.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: This is he's going to unravel throughout the season.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what we're looking at.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, he's gosh, I don't know.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Him and Donna, but Donna has been.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: What a great scene.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like just under the surface, she's always cracking.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like she was fine when in the heyday of colony house,

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but as soon as that house was attacked, like she's been cracking.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're seeing cracks.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait one second.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Daryl says Boyd is not broken yet.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He just wants to kick some monster butt.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I really do.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do believe he's more pissed.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that they killed her.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, avenge me.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of thing.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: More than anything else.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like at the end of.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end or is it at the beginning of run dawn?

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's in the middle.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's when they start when they start going on their killing spray.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you that are used to the 2000s red dawn.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's not the one we were 80s people.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: This is old school.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Old school.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I hated the flashback of watching Mrs.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou get ripped apart and didn't need to see that.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But my one comment is that, you know, the cowboy's wife.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the one with the hair.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: She was holding her purse the whole time.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like her like she goes to grab Mrs.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou Cowboy's wife purse, wife's purse is in the shot.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she had that purse on her the whole time, which I was like, wow.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she couldn't put it down.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had a rewound because I was like, wait a minute.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But I just noticed that little thing.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But interesting.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: My question was how did they decide who would get to be in the barn?

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like how did the monsters decide who would get to be in the barn?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they're just helping.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But also what would they have done if it was just void?

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You think there is like, well, we were going to have some fun.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But some.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No, they probably just torture the crap out of them.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe take off his nails or whatever.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the thing was like they knew

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: there was a pretty good chance if everyone's so hungry and worried about

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the animals that someone, if they let the animals free, that someone would come out.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And most likely that person would probably be void.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't expecting the other three.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So do you think he should have just not went out?

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it wouldn't have been as exciting.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But you have all the power to try to go wrangle cows.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole thing.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Like when Donna comes in yelling at him.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, she's not wrong.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Because where are the animals going to go out to the woods where they found them before?

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But in that moment, I get why he ran out too.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're listening to your mind and then the worst thing imaginable happens.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to try to fix it.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's right.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're all under stress.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only source that they have.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And they don't call Mr.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Love and fishes for anything.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for they call him that for a reason.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're, you know, he's looking at it from the resources.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: aspect, but it goes back to Randall wasn't wrong.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_02]: No, Randall wasn't.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He was ahead of his time.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Randall was ahead of his time.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Randall knows something.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Randall and and Julie and, you know, what's her name?

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The druggy.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Ariel.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They know something and they're I think going to be a crucial part of whatever

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: this season has to offer because they are they were in the mind that the

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: masters were in their minds or whatever the heck it was.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, but so far

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Julie seems to be the only one that's greatly changed.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Mary Alice straight now, but she was working on that to begin with.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Randall did something nice.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he would have saved them anyway.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But Julie is greatly changed.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the reason why Julie has changed is because she hasn't changed.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She said something to Jim, to her father, to Jim.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going through this again.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, yeah.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But she's what I mean by that is she's like it's not your fault.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But she's already been down this road with her dad and she's like,

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with this.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to deal with my shit, but I also need to.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I've already been we've already done this.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I took it.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I took it as her saying I was the parent before to Ethan when Thomas died.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I need you to be my parent right now.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're seeing the same thing.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but he was trying to he was being the parent.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: He just was.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: He was being the parent in the wrong direction.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Exactly.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So Boyd and Christie standing at the pool.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And for once they talked about one of the abandoned vehicles, which is the truck

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_02]: upside down in the pool, which makes me wonder where were that was that couple

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: in the truck like trying to get away from monsters when that happened?

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because how else or maybe they didn't have the the the spike thing yet.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And they did it somehow other some other way.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But they knew their names, though.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They knew that unless they looked at licenses or something.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But it seemed like they knew them.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But how long has Chris been there?

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I know you have I saw I know you have the timeline.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So while she's getting on.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, no, she's got it right hand to six months.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, so that's a substantial time.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So that couple.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Was there in the last six months?

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And how long how long have we been in from?

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Just over two weeks.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to be like the whole like the place ages you faster.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's like if you look at Jade's.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Jade is like does not have three weeks of hair growth.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Oh, he's coming in.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I have a very much my count like I up to like nine days.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You should do it before and after season of like season like episode one to you know,

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_04]: whatever episode that you do the like just take a picture.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good idea. That'd be interesting.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So the real question is since we have Andy on and I know the answer to this.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, so we weren't from.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God, I know you probably always would have.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a skateboard.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Now, my son.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: There is an empty pool, dude.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So the question is,

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that's all isn't a good pool.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You get a message right now.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: The truck out.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He'd use it.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He'd alley over the truck.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So they would never do that, but that would be so fun to see a skateboard from.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, how I just had that I had to

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: throw that out there since since you are that that is your your primary right?

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You would not get the boot either.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless you're making noise, you know, maybe maybe.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I know. Yeah.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You won't get off my lawn.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You'll get off my lawn.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So where are we, my dear?

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. So Boyd and Christie are talking at the pool and

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a great.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: The whole episode is a big, beautiful scene.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like every single scene is just it just

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: it really needed after what happens in the previous episode.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't think we were going to get this season.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Because everyone says it just keeps getting worse.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_04]: There was so much tragedy and despair in this episode, but there was

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: there was redeeming moments that we got to, you know,

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: we have to see a little bit of light and feel good about what just happened.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I don't know if you're walking dead and Andy, are you walking?

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I read like 95 percent of the comics.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I love those.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Novels and I didn't finish the show.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_04]: But I was I'm a fan in general.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Well, the reason I bring that up, you know,

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the big criticism with the walking dead was the Negan years on TV.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we thought was a lot of viewership.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And talking to Harold and and and Liz

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: who placed Donna, it was like it's so it's so heavy.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, dude, don't lose us.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't don't make it so depressed.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So I really smart.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, my mom, who's like when I got it from,

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I started shouting on top of a mountaintop.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really annoying when no one doesn't

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: like everyone doesn't just drop what they're doing alone, because that's what you should do.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And we should have hooked up a long time ago.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm here.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was there with you.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I was there with you.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But my mom was like, I'll wait till season two and I'll watch season one.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_04]: No, watch it now.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm getting off on a tangent here.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just let you guys have the show since you guys have been here the longest

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm just going to leave.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. But oh, OK.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So my mom, she got she's so into it now.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like just she talks all these theories.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like I'm in a group chat with my uncle and my mom and just all these theories.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing. Can I get in that?

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you probably can.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I get it.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Watch this episode.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want me to talk about it to him.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'll give you some numbers.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Negan, when the V episode that that turned walking dead and it got gnarly,

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: my mom just shut it off.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, yeah, they don't like rip our hearts out like

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_04]: like they did on walking dead, but I'll be in it for a long haul.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. All right.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We've got to keep going here because we're so back to Boyd and Christie.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're talking at the pool

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and Christie tells Boyd that it wasn't his fault.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And all I can think is to go back to, you know, him saying, you didn't break me.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't break me.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: OK. And my thought is,

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: but isn't it isn't it his fault?

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it?

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they can, you know, can they break him or can't they?

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I don't know if I want to see Boyd broken.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end, I don't know.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't I think it's going to get really close.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, you know, structurally from a story point,

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_04]: although, you know, if any show is going to send us a different way than we thought

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: we were going to probably be this one,

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to get darn close hanging by a thread.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, that's what at the same time, though, everyone, you know,

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_04]: we all think Boyd's the hero, but then this new thing comes along and now

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Tabatha is like the chosen one.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. But I get darn close.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to see some dark stuff for Boyd.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Well, and the funny thing about Tabatha is

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a lot of people on these from sites that just don't like her.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really? Oh, there's someone in our thread that hates her.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, annoying.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what?

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: There's always someone saying that someone is boring and annoying.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. You know, but all of these characters

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_02]: have a definite part to play in this whole thing.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's there are no wasted characters except like I keep waiting for us

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to find the purpose of Tilly.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, he's there to screw with.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know unless she's just supposed to be the guest star in Elgin's Dreams.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm waiting to see what's up with Tilly.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, the the worst part of this episode was Kenny coming into town

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and finding out that it is his mom and he's outside the house calling for her.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And he knows like he doesn't even try to go in because he knows

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: she's not in there. Yeah, he just knows that it's her.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just like a little puppy like calling for its mom.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's I feel like he's the one that it's like during season two and into this

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: season we're like, I hope he doesn't die.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah. But now he's kind of like he's got nothing to lose.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I mean, he's like.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And he proves that he proves that at the end, which we'll talk about.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's a really, really, really powerful character.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. And and somebody put this in the chat,

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: which I thought was kind of interesting, you know, what was the song playing at

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: the diner when he ended up?

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, times celebration.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, go there.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't that's a niche premature.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought I was I knew because I saw the clip in the trailer and I was like,

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_04]: that's about to about to happen, of course.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And and I was I was expecting a darker, more twisted song than like an upbeat one

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_04]: like that.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But isn't that twisted though?

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so pretty.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like I just thought because you know, you unplug like the lamp

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: story may be plugged in to be on.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I was like, this is not going to any does.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So good for you to win.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they let if they let him think that he stopped it,

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: like that he stopped the jukebox.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the psychological war is definitely like.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah, that's a good point.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially at the end of the episode.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That was yeah.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was like a little bit of power.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: But

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: let's see.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait a minute. Oh, I can't.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was just that.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But the jukebox clicks on when Christie leaves blaring.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, it's just that little conversation between him and Christie

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in the diner and then she leaves him.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But he asked her to clean up his mom basically make her look OK.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And she goes back and she does that.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And another jade is there with him.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's another beautiful thing.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But insanely beautiful scene.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you've ever had to go through anything

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like that with a family member, it's it's hard enough in the real world.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you're in this in this environment,

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_00]: it's she was just so beloved.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. And they were beautiful.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as she was.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, exact.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, we love her so much.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is our favorite.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And we've had her and she was like our number two.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see the.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Donna at Donna Liz, Liz Saunders, then Liz Moy.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what. And she's so we're so lucky that when especially when I watch

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_04]: all of the episodes that when you have the cast on, we are very lucky.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: When the show exists, it's awesome.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And the crew of the cast, they all want to be there.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_04]: They enjoy watching it and talking about it.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, we don't deserve we don't deserve the people working on this show.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_04]: No, they're great.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been on plenty of shows where the actors are not happy.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And they don't want to talk about it.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So the reason is they're all Canadian.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They're just the nicest people in the world.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, they're going to try to take us over with Zamboni technology.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But in the meantime, you know, we just have to embrace them.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're lucky enough to know Bob, who is the mayor of Canada.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we would like to get Bob Manabaya.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's the unofficial mayor of Canada and

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: but he played Frank and, you know, we just away we go.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But now I'm just making sure he was so to go, I believe.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. And he's been on a few times.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, you really are.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You really are a fan.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You're the first to actually listen.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well, especially like I've been rocking a lot of episodes recently.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He comes on to open and close with us.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like our official color commentator.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So and the thing is, he doesn't know anything about the show anymore

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because no one can talk about it.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. He is just as into it as we are.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome. So.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can see that. Yeah.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is awesome.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And what's really great about it is, and we've said this before,

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_00]: he gives such a great perspective from the actor point.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And when we had it, when we booked them, we're like, what the heck is this

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_00]: guy going to talk about?

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been on the show for like two seconds.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And never like this guy could talk.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's interesting.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But then we heard him talk.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And I'm like, this is we got to get him on.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He's awesome.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: A member of the hosts now.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the unofficial third member.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to tell you, you know, Bob, if you're listening.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Anytime.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's doing a really good job.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So yeah.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Proud. I forgot what I wanted to say.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to need to get to we need to get to Kenny and Clara.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we finished Kenny and Clara.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I was hopping over to Jade, Kristie and Mrs. Lou.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's what I was going to say.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: What I meant to get out of Liz Moy last week

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: was whether or not she was present for those scenes.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Because remember when Bob was dead, when Frank was dead,

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Bob was actually in those scenes like he was in the wagon as they were pulling him.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He was the dead body in the box.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought about that when I was watching it.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was like, it looks like it being either way.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_04]: If it was a really good prop or it was her like in because there were

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_04]: guys right behind her that she could have been like in, you know.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what they do, like special effects, you know, like incredible.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the effects on the show are just good.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think they bumped it up.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go. Oh my gosh.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like how they just like they stay right up in front and center.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Visually. Yeah.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. And then I'm sorry.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, go go.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just saying when when Elgin and his dream, when the like bloody

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_04]: whatever the monster's name is called.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you're thinking.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Postman is like, but I think that was one of the creep.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably the creepiest shot to me of the whole series.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And when it was just out of focus and blurry and when it went into focus,

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I understood it needed to happen to wake him up and scare him and do that.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But I was like, if they just would have let that sit and just cut,

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I would have been like that.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm so more scared that nothing else happens.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just wondering what her being Japanese has to do with anything.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't I heard that from you.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, yeah.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she's wearing a kimono and she's got long black hair.

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And this show is absolutely.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that the US like everyone's just from the continental United States.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Right? Yeah.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree too.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But what it's Mrs. Liu.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_04]: No, well, that's on the board like the pins Chinese.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think they're from the states like.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think there is history.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. Yeah.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But so yeah, you can of course.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm just being a jerk about that.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it's Mrs.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Lou.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. So anyway.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They finished getting Mrs.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou ready for Kenny and Jade says if you put any more lipstick on her,

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: she might sit up and smack the lipstick out of your hand.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I like what I love.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_04]: We got some great moments in a very.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, time of the series.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he called her and then Jade says, you know, he repeats what Mrs.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Lou said to him at the end of first season.

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_02]: They they go with you when you go.

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Or they come with you when you go.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_04]: We got a growth in two weeks and not just his facial hair.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah, I know exactly.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's a great character.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She made such an indelible mark on him.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she makes him.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, but it's really very noticeable and significant in him because he went

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_04]: from the guy stealing bikes, which he still has.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he rode his bike to the to the cave at the end of season two.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Who rides a bike in the woods anyway?

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_04]: That wouldn't I dare say that wouldn't have worked, but it was a really funny detail.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: If there's no path, it's hard to ride in the woods.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I grew up riding my bike in the woods, but we had a path.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Trail. So we would just.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we would just follow those trails.

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's see. I'm looking around.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Crap. OK.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because that was at number 11.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Am I at 12? Really?

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Where's 12? How many?

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Julie and Sarah.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big like in total.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That tells me that was a lot of fun.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That was so much on the watch.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Julie and Sarah, like Julie and I think I'm like you now.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I totally get you.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Did she say that?

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I totally get you.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, like the vibe of it when she went to talk to Sarah.

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's basically what she was saying.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. You know, and Sarah was like, come talk to me anytime.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Because both of them, well, along with

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Mary along with Marielle and Randall, but Marielle and Randall didn't know

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Sarah before and, you know, Julie finally, you know, being like I get it now.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It reminded me and I don't expect you to have to have seen these movies,

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: this movie or have read the book, but Bridges of Madison County.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh yeah.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone in the chat.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so because it's like a legendary movie.

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I've heard nothing but good things.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess book, I'm sorry.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But I haven't. Sorry to disappoint.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like a novella and then it's Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streeper in the

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_02]: movie. It's a total chick.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is it?

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a chick flick. Yeah.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But Sarah had become the Redfield woman, the Redfield woman.

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Redfield was the last name.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Unless you've seen the movie, you don't know what the Redfield woman is.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like a sort of letter.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Letter.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: In a sense, yeah, it is the Scarlet Letter.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, assumed. Yeah.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And so my question was, will Julie and Sarah become friends?

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And was Sarah ever normal?

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we don't know if Sarah was ever normal.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I still believe that her brother wasn't her brother.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's definitely a weird vibe there.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was definitely good.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And one thing that I don't like is they don't do a lot of backstory.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And not just her brother.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like lost whole.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, was that?

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot. I know they're separate shows.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there any sense like, oh, like, compare it to loss.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's not.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But lost was very nice about that where it's like, I mean, you get 80 episodes

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_04]: season, 40 of them telling you what they did when they were.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They had more.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They had more time in this show.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the problem.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But backstory was born because of lost.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That term didn't exist before lost.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well, they definitely drove it home.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love it. I'm a huge I'm a huge loss fan.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they invented it.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Watch the show.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But then my other question is.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Why, like, why were the four of them chosen to be?

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Because like who they're speaking to?

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm wondering whether if there was any communication going on during that

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: whole cicada, I don't know.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But Sarah's definitely different communication than the cicada trio.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He said, Cicada, right?

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Not right.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Cicada.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it wasn't Cicada.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I like cicada.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Really, because let me tell you, it's all over here.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Cicada, cicada.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Get my out of the cab.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Dunkin, dunkin.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Cicada, cicada, cicada, cicada.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Get some out of the cell.

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting carried away.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So all right.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm at the funeral and then I've got two booms that we need to talk about.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, it was great seeing the entire town in the church for the funeral.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice Randall standing against the back wall?

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I know, I just I watched the episode and then came in here and sent my computer up

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and jumped on.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So there I need to we usually watch it and then we watch it one more time.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And the second through, I get to like look at all the details.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So I did not notice.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you're right, Andy.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I need to know.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: There are the little details that you always have to watch.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I try to watch this show at least three times before I can like talk intelligently

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: about it and you still miss it.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And then people will come on like in the chat and be like, oh, well, this happened.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, really?

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: There's more than I didn't pay attention to.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I had to not see the wagon wheel was on the ceiling, but then it was in the

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, the other cabin.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, yeah, OK, the show is like infinitely like that.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's kind of poetic and beautiful that it's almost like a mirror

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: that as a walk as you watch it and you get into it, you start questioning.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, he used that word or she used this phrase.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: What do they mean by that?

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And then to the point where like you're overthinking things so much and you feel

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: a little crazy and you're watching people feel a little crazy.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they do a good fun making the viewer like almost like a parallel in a way.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But back to the funeral, I think it was really special.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I bet for the actors as well that they all were in the same scene.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is an unsolvable cast.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to get everybody in place.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do really believe that the one thing that I was surprised about in the trailer

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: is that they showed the play.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm really surprised by.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Alex, remember when I realized what that was?

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I was not a happy, not a happy camper.

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I watched that was so after I watched you.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't even going to watch the trailers.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the poor opposite.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You guys study it so much.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I love this.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, much that I just wanted to like watch it authentically and brawl.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So I so I'm glad I watched that episode where you discovered it after I had

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_04]: already seen the first episode because that was a good.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bottom line is, you know, Kenny has lost his parents.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which, you know, both at the hands of something

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that could have been prevented.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's call it.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean,

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: something he's in.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not in a good place.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He's pissed off and careless, you know, careless.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking for revenge.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we'll see what happens.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But,

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: um, what?

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sorry.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you wanted to talk more about the funeral.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I really have nothing else to say except.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, OK.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I was just looking at my notes

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: just to jump over because like Donna, I mean, Ethan goes to talk to Donna while

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Donna is butchering the cow, which I'm kind of like.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Poor Ethan.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, kind of like should he be seeing that?

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, yeah, but he's doing on the farm.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's part of being on the farm.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It is.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to grow up a lot faster than

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: even on a farm.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to have gray hair in season four.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Jade's beard in a few episodes.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: If he doesn't have it by the end.

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he asked if that's what Tian Chen looked like after they were done

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: with her and I'm like, what the fuck?

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And with that's creepy.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He needs it was kind of like a Carl thing.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he needs someone to hold him so much in that.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's really sad that in this episode, like Victor storming out.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of this episode done pack.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Victor was not a happy camper.

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm out.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: This is crazy.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And if they say it's crazy, it must be crazy because that guy has been it

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: all these been through it.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like getting emotionally attached for the first time in a long time.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm sorry.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Put go ahead.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You go ahead.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Victor, I think he's first.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He's getting emotionally attached for the first time in a long time.

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: There's people that care about him that he cares about.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, and Ethan comments on the snow

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was thinking I love that it's snowing in almost every scene.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's because and to me, I'm like, that is the shit piling up for them.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The more the snow falls, I'm like, wow, they couldn't have asked for a better reason

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to delay so that they could actually get the snow.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, just the symbolism.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Don has had a couple of conversations with Ethan.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Through the series.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just a bunch of different scenes and I mean, let's face it.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: If Ian isn't an alcoholic or a drug user after all this, he should be.

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And he deserves everyone.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying, like,

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: what do you think, Andy?

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know Lizzie and I have our opinions.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you what do you think is are you about the mole?

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you about the Cromenacle?

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you about the I feel like they haven't really went heavy on the Cromenacle

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: since season one.

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So I can lean away from that at this point.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: The mole is super interesting.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's fascinating.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to it would be really interesting to see like a big baddie

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: arise, like so we could almost put a face to it.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a set of faces, not just not just the monsters, which are like, you know,

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: are like our infantry, you know, there are like our front line.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the general because there's a density.

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I and I and I think that a mole would be very interesting.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: The thing with there being a mole,

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like Donna and Tilly are a little too obvious at this point.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And also the community helps this feeling a lot of times because people keep

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about stuff so much.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I would lean more to the mole theory.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think from just just watching it, it's vastly more interesting and way

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: more dramatic and we're getting more drama this season.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now, if one of those people,

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: one of our, you know, core people turns out to be a frigging monster,

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to lose my shit.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you right now, I am going to lose it because that would

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: be the biggest spoiler of all spoilers.

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know nothing.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I know nothing. We have not we have not gone ahead.

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they would reveal that yet.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But if they do that and it's and it's someone that's like,

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know, like for lack of a better term, Kenny or or somebody

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, that you just wouldn't expect.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you'd never expect her.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I'm just saying I would lose my shit.

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: There's one.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Has anyone ever brought up the theory of it being like

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like almost like connected like the Salem witch trials?

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like an evolution of that over time?

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Why is so in the Salem witch trials, like the first three witches that were like

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: were killed were two Sarah's and Tidaba and Tidaba is not a modern name,

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: but Tabitha is.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: No, Titchiba was not killed.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Was she accused then or booked?

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: She she was accused.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: What happened was that

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Titchiba worked in Samuel

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Parrish's home.

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Samuel Parrish was

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: one of the ministers and he was the minister in Salem.

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Salem village.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course, Tabitha's act, which I was just pulling these names

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and very famous witch names.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And it got you with this like the the rune or symbol, you know,

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: we're seeing it's very witch vibe.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, this could be evolution of that.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Where would explain a lot of this stuff?

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Being possible.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sitting here.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's my guitar book.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like clearly I've got this book sitting here, which is.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're a William on my Salem witch stuff.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love that I'm here for it.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Well, I have a partially written book that I wrote during covid.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But Sarah Good and Sarah Nurse.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. And both of them were hung.

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And Tidaba they were.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Titchiba was just a slave.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: she ended up no one knows what happened to her.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But she got sold off.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, it's something that and again, I don't think they're going to.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's good. I wouldn't think it would be so

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: like exact of the Salem witch, but some evolution of witchcraft that built this

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_04]: place is a theory that I didn't know it had been talked about.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It'd be interesting.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, definitely wrote like everything you're seeing, I feel like could go that vibe.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah, it definitely could.

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing about it is that's when I saw that one painting of the

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: what the oldest soldier.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. That's where I was going.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's like 1690s, like 16.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. It wasn't quite 1670s.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it could have been 1670s, but it was that kind of style.

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And that's what it made me think of.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And when we see the three cabins and, you know, they were talking about this

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and the comments over there, but the three cabins like it takes so much to build

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: one cabin, you know, and they're three small ones.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They could have been three families that settled there.

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And, you know, they,

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, limited manpower or limited tools and whatever it took just to

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: build those cabins.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know just how old they are.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But then looking at the scarecrows that they created,

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: they seemed more like very folkloric.

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. You know what I mean?

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Old.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Like it would have been of that time, like the 16 late 1600s.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And also a lot of curse like things going on like the season two story arc.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And then now with Fatima and her eating like rotten stuff, like.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's very witch like a curse too.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very yes.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And they stuck that in.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So creepy.

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Perfectly creepy.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And like I was looking because I was looking at the staircase that

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Tabitha had walked up in the lighthouse and

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: between 1609 and 1703.

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: 1609 would probably be unlikely for white settlers.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Depending if that was Virginia, maybe.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Because wasn't it 1608 they landed?

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. And then remember that that first settlement just completely disappeared.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: They well, they don't know.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Never found them.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: What's that?

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Roanoke. Right.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You talking about Roanoke?

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: We're getting into some interesting stuff here.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That would be crazy.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's really crazy.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually Roanoke.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's not.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It has Roanoke.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because one of the dates, one of the years, if those are years that are on

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that staircase 1609.

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where that settlement came from.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That would be crazy if you just broke up open some.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my season four.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to write an article about this.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, published.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, but like think about that.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember when they sailed away to go back to Europe to get more people.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they came back.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: When they came back, remember that whole settlement was gone.

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I've listened to multiple podcasts talk about that.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's there's very specific dates and very easy to obtain that and try to line it up.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I could just google it right now.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But then 1703.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So 1703 was that other date and that would kind of be that look, I think.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Of that first soldier.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't even know what we were talking about.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: My mind was blown.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: With the three cabins, I thought when actually when season two happened,

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I would be like this would be really, really cool if when you're like looking

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: around the lighthouse, you could see other buildings in the distance.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That would have like.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But then, you know, come season three, it happens right away without seeing over,

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: but that would have been a really creepy look like over.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I know and they never showed it.

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They just they showed trees.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But you couldn't see anything else.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder not even the town.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Guys in 1703, the great storm,

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: ravaged southern England.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait, no, I thought it's a New England.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, Eddie's stone lighthouse off of Plymouth was destroyed in a storm.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Designed by Plymouth, England.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That matters.

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it does.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's kind of a small little detail.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't even know where this place is.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: No, like I was in a little bit of a Facebook Tiff because this girl was like,

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, they're in Michigan because, you know, this, this and that's in Michigan.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And I live in Michigan.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, we have no idea where they are.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're not.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they're.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But she got that to me.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They're there.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: No, they are.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready for boom one if you guys are ready.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm before you get to one.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We are the what is from cast.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I think at this point, we're not even required to get our seven power of nonstop

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: radio, commercial free, whatever it seems like.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And we have our guest.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Andy, I'm sorry, Andy, I'm.

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't want to call you whatever I want.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to call you the right name.

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know.

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So boom number one, I can't wait for it.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just pissed that I forgot about Fatima.

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, she was having a little like dinner.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that that is a pregnancy thing because I think.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No, nobody eats rotten food.

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's I know.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's rotten food.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But there are weird cravings that women have.

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: All the cravings of all the world.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Rotten food is not one of them.

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you never know her.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait a minute.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think to differ because, you know what?

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Lizzie Borden's father, Andrew Borden, would not pay top price for fresh food.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: They were always eating rotten meat.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I really don't care about Lizzie.

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying.

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you right now

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that some really messed up from stuff.

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, she's so she's she's can't eat.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: She says the smell of food makes her nauseous.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And what doesn't is like the opposite of, you know, edible food.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a curse.

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to ask another.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: All I'm thinking of when you're talking about all this witch stuff.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: First off, I went on vacation and we actually went to Salem.

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome. Yeah.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Which was kind of neat.

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But the other thing is you're talking about the Scarlet Letter.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking of the book or the story of the lottery.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: OK. Oh my God.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a story.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate it too.

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate it.

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what the lottery is?

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess I should stay away, right?

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Shirley.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a high school read.

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Go read it.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's by written by Shirley Jackson.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So basically the long and the short of it is every year they to gather a good crop

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: season, I think it was, they put everybody's name in a hat and whoever gets pulled out,

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: they kill. OK.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving the short.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving the short.

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a short story.

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. You should read it.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It gets referenced a lot.

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: OK.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The lottery.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I will wait.

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I will hang it with you all this time.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We bring it up.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get a reading list.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So wait, no, that's this.

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to hold on.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Fatima is eating rotten food.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly something that would happen in Iran right now.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but and I get that.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what this was.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: This was some freaky freaky shit.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: There is no way in hell that this has anything to do with that.

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is me talking.

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you this has to do with whatever's in her belly.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it's real, if it's fake, if it's monster, if it's wet.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But that is just some freaky from.

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't get that baby and it's healthy.

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It's I.

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good.

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be quite the jarring thing for the for everybody.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But oh my God, let's go to boom one so we can get out of here.

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes tonight.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: it's Kenny and Boyd, Boyd coming upon Kenny in the bar.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's filling up jugs of basic rebuting.

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah.

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And he wants to make all of them pay.

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And it just it was just breaking my heart looking at him being so angry.

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And they go to the tunnels and it's hard to tell if it's late in the day,

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: because when it's snowing out, there's so many clouds you can't.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, tell you can't.

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just worried that they're going in and it's like late in the day.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And these things are going to be getting up with.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And with not clear heads.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're not clear heads.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was Boyd was a very bad dad in that scene.

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He was he was.

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And I wondered if it because when he started talking to Ellis,

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: it actually made me feel and I was like, is this a storyline you're going to see

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_04]: where he's like being more of a better father figure to Kenny that he is to

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_04]: his own son who's having a baby?

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, more drama.

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I love this.

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, it was it was really, you know, because they're out there and

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't know how many are in there.

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And Boyd makes this comment that Victor said there's a lot of them in there.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that Jade didn't see any.

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm wondering, you know, it could have been the part of the tunnels

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that they were in, you know,

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: because Tabitha certainly saw some and I can't remember how Jade ended up in the tunnel.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, looking up and he just saw the kids, you know,

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: but Kenny just thinking about his mom in her last moments.

[01:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, he's not a good point.

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not in a good point.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He does make a good point.

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we did we did kill the one guy.

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we can kill some.

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Have we looked to see which ones were shot with the silver bullets and to see if

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: they're still out that we've seen them since?

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Because that was the back of my mind.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: All the monsters, no, all the monsters are still like exactly.

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the saddest thing is just, you know, Tian Chen's last words are like,

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_02]: take care of him. He's all alone now.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and and that was how Boyd got Kenny to leave.

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Because otherwise he wouldn't have left.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He would have gone in there and we would have lost at least Kenny if not Boyd as

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: well. Yeah. Or you would have been like you're in our house now.

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Let's play with you some more.

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So my last yeah.

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Number two.

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So Ethan wants to know if they're still going to live in the house because,

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, it's Tian Chen's house.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think the house is really

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_02]: belonged to anybody since the occupants.

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, on the whole house thing,

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the whole house thing that really pissed me off was when Sarah went back into

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the house and that crazy guy that shot Boyd and give her.

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, what do you like you've been here for two seconds?

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Like, but it's you don't even know anybody except the tone for you to really

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: not like that guy, especially when he started, you know, grabbing guns and killing.

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I know.

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So I wanted I wanted him to give her the shirt.

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just Tom.

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like it was an unnecessary fight.

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Yeah.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: let's see.

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Boom number two.

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So Ethan wants to know if they're still going to live there.

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Jim is like one step at a time and then

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Jewel, Jim notices that Julie is veering off as they walk.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Julie, because this is before they get in the house,

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Julie is going to check on animals.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And Jim says it's almost dark because Ethan says he's going

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to go talk to forget.

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Ethan says he's going to oh, going to Jim says he loves them as they're walking off.

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like, I don't know if I'll see you again.

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of. I love it.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was just him trying to

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: be be like, hey, I'm your dad.

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm here trying to like score points in a sense, you know, not score points

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: because I think he doesn't love them.

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, but you're not saying I'm right here.

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a real father of the year.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Well,

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. It's interesting because last season they didn't give Jim a lot to do.

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And so far this season he seems pretty busy.

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So the big thing is that,

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, he walks in the house and he goes into the kitchen and he's at the sink

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and the phone starts ringing, which is a phone.

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, dad, it's Thomas.

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Thomas could speak.

[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was freaking.

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like Thomas was an infant.

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know what to expect.

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But then when that happened, it didn't surprise me.

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I was it's I was just like, OK, it's just psychological.

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, but I wonder if that's for unraveling him and think he make him think

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: he's crazy, which in, you know, will make him be less effective of a father

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and just keep that string pulling.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is where this is where he needs to talk to Boyd,

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: so that boy can tell him that these guys like to play with you because.

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The way they tried to use my wife's image to mess with me.

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I just think that, you know, this is one of the down parts

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: of the show, which makes it so good is if they would just talk.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they need to get community power.

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, for a while, it's like once the night.

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_04]: What happened?

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Once an hour, once an hour.

[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't know in here somewhere about people talking and I can't know.

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I know they do talk.

[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's just we want to get them in like a whole neighborhood

[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: meeting talking about it, right?

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, but the thing about Jim about them doing that to Jim,

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: he separated from Tabitha, so his his touch tone is not there.

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: His touchstone is not there.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But on top of it,

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: he's the most methodical thinker in that town.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He's an engineer.

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he does usually have a train of thought when it comes to.

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I guess the conspiracy part of season two, he was he was a little

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: astray, but yeah, he'd write in this situation, though.

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He was the one that was level headed in that when it got out of hand.

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So for him to pick up the phone and hear that,

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: like we all know

[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that Thomas was an infant couldn't speak like that.

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But will Jim

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: like what will Jim what will be his response?

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: What's going to happen to Jim?

[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know.

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But at least it's like clear that he shouldn't believe that if it was Tabitha.

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that would open up a bigger bucket of worms because yeah,

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: he's believing the Tabitha is talking to him and Tabitha.

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We know Tabitha is not doing that.

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: She's in a basement looking at paint.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So right. Exactly.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_04]: That exactly.

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Very problematic.

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But it would have been just as good of a cliffhanger.

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: If it was Tabitha saying I'm over here.

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, come to the world.

[01:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: There'd be a phone line.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm at the pay phone at the lighthouse.

[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Come get me.

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Come pick me up.

[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys.

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we did some damage to this episode.

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I know we probably missed some things that and I got to tell people,

[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's amazing to see some of this stuff in the chat.

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're going nuts.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And I know I just want to thank everybody in there.

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, that all being said,

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: before we get out of here, I just wanted to talk about a couple of things.

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Where is it?

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Where is the little?

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, it's not going to open because that would be too easy.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: God forbid.

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We have our season one tribute poster, which we are coming close to selling.

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I meant to buy that on Saturday.

[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to buy it right when I get off this.

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you so much because now we can.

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, no, I genuinely I was like it's very cool.

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I like yeah, we're working on season two.

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then hopefully we'll have a season three and you guys can do a whole deal with

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: that in there somehow.

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's maybe he's in the box.

[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's in the box.

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he's in the box.

[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely in the box.

[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And also, folks,

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: next week, we are going to be talking season three episode three.

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: This one.

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And called the mouse trap.

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So we will probably be talking about what happened with Boyd and Kenny.

[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny, I wonder.

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, what kind of craziness that they're going to end up having?

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And in the meantime, you know, keep the conversation going on all the sites.

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I know Piedcastica is doing a bunch of different shows.

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I know a bunch of shows are coming back on.

[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I know Daryl Dixon started today and I know our friends over at

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Adrenaline are finishing up Snowpiercer as well as our friends over at

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Run For Your Lives or doing twisters this I think this week.

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you've seen Twister and you want to see twisters, it's a great.

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They do a lot of scary stuff.

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They do more scary stuff than twisters type stuff, but they do all that.

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So, Andy, just tell us a little bit about your content creation and all the other

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_00]: good stuff that you're doing.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've been I didn't mean to have a career in just creating videos,

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's been awesome.

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I started out making videos.

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I launched a skateboard company from it.

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So I do a lot of skateboarding content.

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I do a lot of just whatever's happening in my life with my friends and family that

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think is entertaining, been doing it for a long time now.

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I actually got into acting a little bit.

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I want.

[01:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to tone back on the creating aspect and do more of that.

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And just creating for other projects that are.

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: When you're rich and famous like you are and you want to come back and you're

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: in from hopefully we'll be able to get an interview and away you go.

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But we weren't at the funeral.

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You should have been.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We should have been at the funeral.

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We should have gone.

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just happy just to.

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys got an awesome, awesome thing here.

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's what?

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're still trying to figure out what we're doing.

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We're still we're still trying.

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I know somebody asked this and I asked them to

[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: go.

[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we need a from we need a front deck.

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how to I'll send them a DM and say, hey, let's make a skateboard.

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see what happens.

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you might you might know one or two.

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I think that's awesome.

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be very cool.

[01:31:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, yeah, they want from shirts and hoodies and they should they should

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: make more merch in general.

[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? That's a whole nother issue.

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But going back to that, that's why we make.

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I made my own.

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we don't mess around.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's one of the things, you know, when I saw you, you had your red

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: from shirt on and you know, it's I think it's really cool that people are

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: really starting to embrace this show and it's taken them three seasons.

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to I mean, we've seen it snowball,

[01:32:01] [SPEAKER_04]: but I think it's going to get really like really crazy after this season.

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we're I think a lot of people are jumping on as they should.

[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought a lot of everybody tell everybody.

[01:32:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was, you know, like, like I was glad Alex said yes.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, one of the happiest days of my life, Alex.

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, please.

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was alone for like so long.

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I had no one to talk to about it.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember like laying, you know, I'd watch it in bed sometimes,

[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, that first season because I was waiting for Sunday to come.

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. You know, and I would lay there and my face is smushed like this

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm watching with one eye and I'm just like I can't be the only one

[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that no one's talking about this.

[01:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I was terrified.

[01:32:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what and I have online following.

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So I just started talking about it.

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, you know, that's like I almost feel annoying to my followers

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: because they're not there for a sci-fi horror show.

[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just talk.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Stupid stupid.

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which is fun too.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But but I got scared.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, this has to have another season.

[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to tell everybody and then get them to tell everybody.

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was my that's what was my.

[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and I think that's great.

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's great that, you know,

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: there's so many different people that are watching it and

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: they're making it hard.

[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie, putting it on MGM plus, they're making it hard.

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. But they're trying to build up MGM plus.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of their goal.

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I really think that it's great that they're putting money into it this year.

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I mean, there's the everything.

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact they do it on Prime Video for free on the other seasons leading up to it.

[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that goes a long way for the show.

[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: MGM plus gets a really good situation.

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And the main thing is the, you know,

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: we're we're lucky enough to get to get screeners and get the opportunity,

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: the opportunity to interview the cast and and and crew and all sorts of good

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff and they're all they're all amazing.

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So genuine.

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just they just seem to be amazing.

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And they really have called it the little show that could and they've just kind of

[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: just going the only the only thing.

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, the only criticism I have is and I know it just

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I wish there was like two more episodes.

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:34:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure these days.

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I know they all do 10 because they can and whatever else if they just did one

[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: or two more episodes, it would just make life

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: so much easier for us because not not not that it's easier.

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They could make the storm.

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They can make that extra story long, you know, that we talked about.

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's world is so large like what the end of it's technically small.

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's such there's so much stuff and it's very dense,

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_04]: like where they could go with it and stories they could like elaborate on.

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think we would watch a hundred episodes a season if they made them.

[01:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So what we got out of this from you is you want to skateboard the pool at prom

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and you're you're trying to get on the set of from.

[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's basically what I would definitely say.

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That we want.

[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We want all those things.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My my, you know, my takeaway from this whole

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: experiences when we interviewed Harold, he said he wants to hang out.

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't exactly say what he said was we need to spend some time together

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: on the podcast, but I'm saying that

[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: how I'm saying that and I'm just going with that because, you know,

[01:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: we got to get him on the show.

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he said it.

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We got to get him on the show as well as there's others.

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_00]: We still haven't been able to get David up and Jade.

[01:36:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He just doesn't do interviews.

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He just he only does the big stuff.

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I went to his Instagram and he hadn't like uploaded since January is up

[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and which I can relate to.

[01:36:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually terrible using social media, despite that I have like a career on it.

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that great?

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah.

[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: No, speaking of that, I do want to I do want to tell people thank you so

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: much because we just broke the 600 subscriber mark.

[01:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully by the end of this, this

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: this episode after the next week, we'll be up to hopefully 650 maybe 700.

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the goal, as you well know, is to get to that thousand that thousand

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: mark with all the views.

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're trying to get the views and I'm trying to do more shorts

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and all that other stuff.

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So for key.

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_04]: These are key these days for subscribers.

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a weird world.

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It's weird.

[01:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird thing.

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Do it on to the next.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so so that's that's our story and we're sticking to it.

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to thank you once once again, Andy,

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: well, definitely you are you have an open invitation whenever you want.

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And also I'll show you the controls so that you guys can just go on your

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: deep dive, you and Lizzie and I'll just oh, can I make a request?

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, absolutely.

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, you need to do an award of like looking back who got the theories most

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_04]: right and who got the theories most wrong because that would be the funny.

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's so fascinating and so many wild ideas.

[01:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: There has to be like a let's wrap up and see who was on top of guessing what was happening.

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, Lizzie in her other podcast,

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: what she was doing, The Walking Dead used to do a what was it?

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, who was going to die?

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's fun.

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Take on the walking dead.

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_02]: What was it called?

[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a game who dies next.

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like there was hundreds of people that did this.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was a game and we kept scored.

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, you know, who killed, you know, how many zombies you killed?

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You got injured, you lost points, you know, lost points if you died.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And so people would win and we just we I would get prizes, you know, like it started

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: out where my partner and I, we would just go and buy the prizes and then we would

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: get prizes and then the last season because it was our last season and it

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: was three seasons, three sections.

[01:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We had four total winner.

[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: No, four, five or six.

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We gave away so much, probably over a thousand dollars in merchandise.

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was all dead, you know, dead walking dead related.

[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: One guy, it cost me fifty dollars to mail his stuff.

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he's not cheap these days.

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was, you know, when the show ended, he had two boxes.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He had one like a I don't know, a couple of different categories.

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Because like even the lowest like the person with the lowest score would win.

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't just like one or two things.

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like tons of stuff.

[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So I just put on the screen, you know, yeah, somebody's looking for a from

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: deck. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, when you're when you're ready to make

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: a from deck, let us know we will definitely want to raffle it off.

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I thought you were talking about a tarot deck because someone

[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: know, not a tarot deck.

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You need to make skateboard decks.

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And and if I could, I'd even buy one for my for my own just to kind of put

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: it up because I'm a skateboard.

[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They're fun to hang on the wall.

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But I did want to say I saw the message, Frank.

[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. You're you're the man.

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that would be cool.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, Frank also is a subscriber to your channel.

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. Yeah, I know.

[01:40:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I know him actually saying this.

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. He's a he's a very good dude.

[01:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So are you a gamer as well?

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I like video games.

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I do have a video game channel that I do with my friend, but it's like just a side thing.

[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_04]: What what what games do you play?

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We play whatever the internet wants to say see.

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But when I I stay pretty busy, but when I do play for myself, it's usually

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_04]: like I grew up on Final Fantasy,

[01:41:02] [SPEAKER_04]: like Legend of Zelda type stuff.

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we have we have a little group in our Z head group.

[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We play dead by daylight almost every night.

[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's OK.

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Andy, we got to get you on because we're crazy.

[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And and we would love to have you as one of our guests.

[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.

[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll definitely mess message you afterwards.

[01:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But again, I want to thank you so much.

[01:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I forget I reached out to you or you reached out to me,

[01:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm just really glad that we could make this work.

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, whenever you're ready to come on back,

[01:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: you always have an open invitation and world.

[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you ever want to touch me and say be here this Sunday, just say the word.

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and you know something, you were really cool about that.

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, I asked him and he's like, yeah, let me just talk my wife.

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we'll do it.

[01:41:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll do it this time and I can get this going.

[01:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're in your West Coast.

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Ohio, so Midwest.

[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK.

[01:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get home. Get your home.

[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

[01:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, get in your house.

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go. Come on.