80: “Circle Sewn With Fate / Unlock Thy Hidden Gate” (Agatha All Along S1E2)

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: HMM? Ah!

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Unlock Thy Hidden Gate S1E2, Marvel TV Cast

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, am I the first to arrive?

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The rest will be here soon.

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Please, come in. Right Agatha?

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care, whatever it is.

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I interest you

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: in a pre-road appetizer?

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They are

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: old granola bars I didn't have much to work with.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, before I came,

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind a lapsed

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: expiration date.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: My priestess.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer Kale, potions.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Lilia Calderoo, divination.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You're bound.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And you need a chemical pill.

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: This is never gonna work.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Your front door is missing.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Alice, how did you-

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a next cop. It's gonna be the answer to a lot of questions.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Gang's all here, let's hit the road.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey everybody, welcome to the Marvel TV cast

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: from Podcastica. I'm Penny.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm Jim.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Today we're gonna be talking about

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha all along. Season 1

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode 2

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I should sing this. I'm not going to.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Circle

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: sewn with fate. Unlock

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: thy hidden gate.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So,

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about you but I've had the song

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: stuck in my head

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: for days.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't get it out of there.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm humming it, singing it all the time.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and what's cool

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: about it is

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I hadn't heard it

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: when we recorded Season

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: the first episode.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And that version of it

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: was so- I mean, it was great.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But this version

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: of it is

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't-

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's catchy. I mean, it's kind of iconic.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when you look at the performers

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: who were- I mean, Patty LePon immediately

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but who knew? I mean, I don't know

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know much about

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Catherine Hahn's vocal

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: presence but- I didn't know she

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: was like a- her voice is beautiful.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know that. Yes!

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just- I didn't know.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't surprised about Sa'sheer Zemada

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was not as familiar with Ali'an

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: although I looked up her IMDB

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: page and I was like,

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my god, I've seen her in all these things.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I just didn't put it together.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she was in

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Billions which was great in it

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and the part that she was in. But yet,

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_02]: their voices

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: fit together so well

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: mean that- to do something

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like that and then on top of it

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: in a TV show like this when you

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: have an amazing song

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: montage isn't right but

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: all of the action that was happening

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: along with the song, with the way that they were

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: singing it. Oh and the Salem 7?

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The introduction of the Salem 7?

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So creepy!

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So we were talking in episode 1

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: how

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff doesn't scare me.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Holy coo- like this

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: so to have a show

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so this is what

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like this is where the brilliance of this show

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: is for me. This episode

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and any other TV

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: series

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is okay, we're going to introduce everybody.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Here you go, here's this person and here's this person

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and here's this person and here's this person

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and we got a crow over here and a coyote over here

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: we hear an owl in the background

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: introduce, introduce, introduce

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: they do that

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: with this amazing humor

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: with two amazing actors

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of weaving in and out and I gotta tell you

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the kid that's playing

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Toto or

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Teen or whatever they're calling him

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: what's Joe?

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, this kid

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: he's good, he's really good

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I you know

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: his facial

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: expressions in this episode

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: tell a whole tale

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: which is absolutely amazing

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: by going back to the

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: to be able to get to this

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: last like third of the show

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: where we get all the

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the team assembling

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and then they sing this song

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and if you're not doing it right

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you're singing the song, you're getting on the road

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and off you go to the rest of the story

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but when you build up a

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: when you're building up a chase

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: which apparently they're going to be doing

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: how amazing

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: was that sequence

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_04]: gripping

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and Aubrey Plaza wasn't there

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like so there's like this whole other

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: layer that like so how

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: where's what how or is she

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll get to that

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I have some thoughts and some theories

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: but we'll get to that

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: so that song was amazing

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the song was brilliant and amazing

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and how they've come up with

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: two versions of the same song

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that I will be listening to

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: for years and years

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and I have to assume

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_04]: that we're going to get the rock

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: goddess version, the Lorna Wu version

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_04]: before the end of this season

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: because they don't tell you

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_04]: that there's the most popular version

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: that's sold 40 million copies worldwide

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's one of the characters mother

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: who recorded it and she's mysteriously

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: missing like we're going to hear

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: that song so we're going to get at least

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_02]: a rock version. Did you catch

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: when they were singing it I didn't see it the first time

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched it but the second time I watched it

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh did she cry? She was crying

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like oh okay

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: so let's

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: put that one in the notes

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: because we need to remember that

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so that was beautiful too

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: because I didn't catch it the first time either

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and then I was like

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: oh why is her makeup running?

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh duh she's crying

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I had to sort of come at it backwards

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: but again that's

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: of course her mother's missing

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's wonderful storytelling is what that is

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I just

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I am so enthralled

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: with a show that can

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: again take

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: really the one episode

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: of the nine where you just hear your players

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: here they are

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: on the playing field

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and make it that suspenseful

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because now you've got so many questions

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that hopefully we get some answers

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: what's this journey going to be like

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: how connected to Wizard of Oz

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: is it going to be how are we going to get

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: these players who aren't on the road

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: onto the road

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: we're really

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: getting ahead of ourselves

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a theory that

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: that

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: every member of the coven

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: is going to have to confront

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: their own sort of

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: core trauma

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: or big bad

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: so we're going to get

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_04]: the backstory of each character

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: when they confront their thing

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think each character is going to have a

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_04]: focus episode

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_04]: that's

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha's at the end

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: we have

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: we have

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: four other witches

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: five counting

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: whoever

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the teen

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Toto

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been calling him kid

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_04]: even though he says he's not a kid

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: cause he's 16

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: just cause I find it easier than teen

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: but I think either is fine

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: she called him teen for a while

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and then she called him Toto

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't know

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we'll probably

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I think she didn't want him to

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: try to tell any of the other witches

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: who he is because

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: she didn't want them to realize

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: that there's some kind of powerful magic attached

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: to him

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: she hasn't figured out what it is

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and she hasn't figured out if it's something

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: she can use but she certainly doesn't

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: want them to use it

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: or connect to it

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so I guess my question to you

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: might as well just dive into this part

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: of it

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: so I mean if we're gonna have a point number one

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: he sort of is in a place to start

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to start with who do you think he is

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: but I do want to ask you a question

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like do you think he knows

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: who he is?

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I was wondering that because

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: he has that off end comment

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: when they're talking about Alice and Lorna Wu

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_04]: and she's like he says

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my mother saw her in concert before she died

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: and at first I thought he meant

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_04]: before his mother died

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and then I was like oh I think he means before Lorna Wu

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_04]: supposedly died but really

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_04]: disappeared

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: but I loved it because I had the same question

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: so there again is good storytelling

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because it could be either or it could be both

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_02]: who knows

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_04]: it could mean anything

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: when he says my mom or my mother

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: it could be that he doesn't know

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: who he is, he lives with some family

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and he is the child

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of Wanda or

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha or some other mystical

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: you know some character that we're going to know

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: or did you catch

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: did you catch

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: so I watch of course with

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: with the captioning

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: when he when

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: she asks him in the car

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: his story

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: he of course it mutes out right away

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it catches just enough for him to say

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that he's from

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Eastview

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's what made me go

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: wait a second like if he is

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: he's obviously someone

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: important to the story other than

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: just this random

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: magician or random

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so but I don't

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: think I really think that

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: whoever he is

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that he doesn't know

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the true part that he's going to play

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: whether he is

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you know we speculated that he might be

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Wanda's son Billy

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we speculated that he might be

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha's son Nicholas

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: who in

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the series

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he's not

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: been mentioned as being real

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and then you have a whole other like storyline

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: because there's definitely some

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: what's real and what's not going on here

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: but we'll get to that but I just

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and the fact that he plays

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and I guess maybe I don't know a whole lot

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: about the history of

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha and the history of the Scarlet Witch

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: in the comics

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and I guess they threw out some clues for us

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: is so

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you know his boyfriend calls him when they're in the car

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a clue

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and I guess my question again

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like do we know if

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: any of the characters that we're speculating about

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: is gay in the comics

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know but that doesn't

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: necessarily mean anything because they might have

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: just made a switch and

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_04]: the boyfriend could have been a girlfriend

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_04]: in the comics and they just

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: updated it for modern times

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: the fact that he

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_04]: phone calls his boyfriend Boyf

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_04]: is that a clue does EOYF

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: mean something or is that just

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Generation Alpha

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_04]: like slang I don't know

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't know that

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: actor I don't know if we're going to get to see him again

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of think maybe we will but

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I do just love

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that we just keep dipping into the pool here

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and hopefully all of this comes back to fruition

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: in nine episodes we should have plenty of time

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: to get it all but

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_04]: and when he tried to tell her his name

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: there was

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: a symbol that came over his mouth

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and at first I thought it was like stitches

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: closing his mouth so he couldn't talk

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: but then I thought it was

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_04]: like a fancy M

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and then I thought is it a fancy

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: M or is it a fancy W

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: right so then I was like Wanda

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_04]: or Maximoff

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: or I know that a major

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: like mystical villain in the

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_04]: comics is Mephisto

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: M

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: oh no

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and I loved that Wanda

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_04]: was just like interesting because

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: she doesn't

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_04]: she's drawn to power

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and she's like that is power

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what it is yet

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'm going to find out

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and it certainly seems like

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: she might

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the looks on Catherine

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: on's face while she's playing this character

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: leaves us to be she's intrigued

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: but it does seem like she knows

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: more

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: than she's telling us

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: there seems to be

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: but also that she's not sure of what she knows

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: because she had that thing that happened

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: with the car

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: where she was like wait this isn't a car

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like oh her perception

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: of the world is still messed up from

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: the spell like she's not 100%

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: out of the spell that was

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: so funny

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what happened the first time I watched

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_04]: the episode I missed that entire

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: sequence about the

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: not car

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: so the second time I watched it I was like

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I miss this this is amazing

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: it's so fun like pop

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: tarts instead of gas pedal and

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_04]: like

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_04]: and then she picks up the scissors

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and is like here you go here's the key

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: so

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's the first time I watched it

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what I caught and then

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to then go back

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and watch the first episode

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to see her in the car

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and every time she was in the car I was like

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: she's just in her living room

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_02]: sitting in her living room

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: she's like looking in a makeup mirror

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and using pop tarts for pedals

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: like oh my god

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I actually

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: wrote this down she

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: she says

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: oh what does she say I think I wrote it down somewhere

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't find it in my notes right now

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but we'll come back to this because one of my

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: one of my for the humor in this episode

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: is amazing but I want to hammer out

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: this teen stuff

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: before we move on from it

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah the MW

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: stitch symbol whatever that was

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: is a huge clue

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and maybe if I were

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: more versed in more of the comics

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I would absolutely

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: know what that symbol is but I don't

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I tried to do some Agatha

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: comic book reading

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: right after WandaVision aired

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: because I just thought the character was so great

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and I knew there was a series coming

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and also because I claimed dibs on covering it

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: for podcastica like immediately

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like mine

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: but uh

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha never had her own series

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and she's like all over the place in the Marvel

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: universe so you have to do like one

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: episode one issue of this comic and another

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: issue of that comic and there's no place

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: where it's all pulled together and

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and I read a few things

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: here and there but I couldn't really like

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: get a like a real

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: picture and I'm sure I missed a ton

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and I found it very annoying

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and I also sort of assumed that

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: if the show did indeed come out which it did

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: that they would release

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: some kind of like compendium

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: of Agatha stories

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and make it easier

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: for me so I didn't have to go find them all

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and pull them all together so I'm kind of waiting

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: for that to happen.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I have a feeling it's going to

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine they throw this episode out here

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think to um

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I did go back

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: yesterday and kind of

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: dabble through some of the

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: 2016

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Scarlet Witch

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: series that

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: seems to be the basis

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: of this because

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: uh,

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Wanda is the one who's on the road

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that's where they're getting some of it so I stopped quickly

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want any spoilers in case there were spoilers in there

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: in case they just swip swapped

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: switched characters

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and it

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it because

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha is in that

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but more as a

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: ghost guide and it's not

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's the version that I know from

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: The Early Fantastic Four

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: it's uh

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: it's it's it is very

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: but the nice thing about it too is I do think

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it does give

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: the showrunners,

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the writers a lot of freedom

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: with this character especially since

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: regardless of whether

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: you know we have a

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: returning Scarlet Witch at some point

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't seem like

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: she's going to be in enough

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: for them not

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: not to be able to use some of

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: her source material

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: in this character because we still don't know

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: what version of Agatha we're going to get by the

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: end of this I mean she's obviously looking to

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: gain her power back and gain a lot more than

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that um she definitely has some

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: of her evil tendencies but this isn't

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: a character that's been overtly evil throughout

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the series that she's been in

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: over the mar... so I'm just super curious

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: there's so much open

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: land to cover here

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that they can sort of write themselves

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so maybe they don't want to pull

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: everything together maybe they want this

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: to be

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: something that they can just kind of

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: build their own map for

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's um you know

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that Agatha

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: is evil

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: so much as

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah yeah extremely power

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_04]: hungry and willing to do

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: evil to get

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_04]: power which in my head

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_04]: is slightly different not

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean evil is evil

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: to a certain extent but

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: the motivations are different

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: she's not like I want to destroy the world

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_04]: or I want to rule the world she's like

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I want power and

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe there's a psychological reason

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_04]: for that that we're going to learn

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you know maybe it's because

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_04]: there was a time in her life when she was

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_04]: powerless and

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: she's trying to make up for that

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know I'm very

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: curious because I don't think

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: she's a villain exactly

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_04]: we don't know

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: any of her yeah well

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and we don't know because

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the story that we get

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: from 1693

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: she's getting burned at the stake

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_02]: then she takes their power

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't know what happened

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: before that

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: it might have been a good thing

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't I mean

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: we do know what happened in

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Wanda vision I mean

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Wanda was not a great

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: character in that I mean portray

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_02]: very well and obviously

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_02]: someone going through grief and trauma

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_04]: sympathetic but also in the wrong

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: right like she enslaved

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: a town that doesn't mean

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: that Agatha should kill her

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: but like it's not

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: undefensible

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it's still recovering

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that town and a town that

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: by all indications

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of like Sagatha even though she's

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a lunatic

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah they seem like

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: good people I mean

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: we'll get there but

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Deborah Jo Rupp's character oh my god

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I love her so much already

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_04]: she's so funny

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah let's finish talking about

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_04]: the teen one of my most favorite

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: things was how

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: well he meshed

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: with Agatha on their

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: let's get the band together

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: mission and how

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: he was so suave about pulling out

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: her address and being like be there at five

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: like boom he was on it

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and when he

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like called out Jennifer Kale

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: about her lawsuit

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_04]: problem he was like

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I literally have that

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: so you were in this is fabulous but

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: he was just kind of getting into it

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: he this is when he enters

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: the fray as an ally to Agatha

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't really know where this is going to go

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: but they turn into an official duel

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and it ends with

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: just like the payouts and maybe like five years

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: in prison but

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: 800 counts of it

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: starts to get a little lifey

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and the look on his face when he says it

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I was sold on this actor

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: from this point on I was like

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah okay he's gonna

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: with all of these

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: amazing actresses

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: he's such a nice like

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it this way because

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the show is kind of a breath of fresh air but

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: he really is as a new actor

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: he's a contrast

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_04]: they're all so

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: different from each other

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_04]: this is one of the things I

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: am really digging about the coven

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_04]: is how

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_04]: unbelievably different these

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_04]: characters are from

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: each other and

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_04]: they make a reference

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_04]: to it at one point I guess I'm jumping ahead

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but that's okay

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: when Lillia

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: gets her vision or whatever

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and writes down the names

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: the first thing she says is

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: three of pentacles

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_04]: which is a tarot card reference

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I dabbled in

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: tarot card readings at one point in my life

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: so I do know kind of a lot about tarot cards

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: the three of

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: pentacles represents

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: teamwork, collaboration

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and specifically

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: the power and value

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: that there is in a team

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: made up of diverse

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: skill sets and

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: experience levels

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: which is exactly what we end up with

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: in this coven right we have

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: we have some very old

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and powerful witches who have lost

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: their magic or the magic's been bound

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and then we have like Alice Wu

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: who doesn't seem to have ever really embraced

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_04]: her magic and then Locke

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: who's this new up and comer

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: and Sharon

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Davis who

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think is in any way

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_04]: a witch at all

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: at least not yet maybe she will be by the end

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_04]: of the season

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and that's a very diverse skill set

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: this is like a passion of mine too

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: is that diversity is strength

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: right like there's been all these

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: studies that show that

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_04]: decision making and problem

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: solving is better

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and more efficient when you have

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_04]: teams that have diverse

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: backgrounds but also

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: diverse cognitive styles

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_04]: so you don't just want

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: people who look different from each other

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: you also want people that think differently from each other

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: yes and the more

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: diversity you have

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: the better solution you end up in the

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: long run it might be harder

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_04]: work to get to the end

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: of a problem

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: it might take a little bit more because there's also team management

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: that needs to happen

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: but you'll get a better long lasting

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: solution that solves the problem

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: or answers the question

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: more thoroughly

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I spent a lot of time in corporate America

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and I've worked on a lot of teams

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and I've done a lot of team building exercises

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and gone to

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: team management seminars

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and professional communications coaching

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and all this stuff

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and the biggest lesson

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I've taken away from that

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: besides that if you fidget

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: when you're talking people don't take you as seriously

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: is that

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: multiple voices

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and multiple perspectives

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: are more valuable

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: than we can even imagine

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: which is why I'm so anti-fascist because I'm like

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: then you always end up with one person's view

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: that's not

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: the human race will explode

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and die if we do that

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: diversity is strong

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: three of pentacles

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: because we mentioned tarot cards too

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Patty Lupone's character

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Lillia called a Lillia

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: so she

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: had a necklace on

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that looked like a tarot card

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: did you catch that?

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't catch what it was

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I started paying attention

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to each character

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and each character had a necklace

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: a different necklace

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: they represent their powers

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: because I know

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's worth diving in

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and I tried to pause

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and I tried to zoom in

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and I couldn't quite get it

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but Lillia called her

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and she was the

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: divination

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I really feel like

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't know

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: anything about tarot cards

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's five of them

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: which again we were talking

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: there's

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: no I mean

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: of the witches

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_04]: oh five of the witches yes

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: there's five of them

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and we were talking about pentagons

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: because the town is

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know enough about the topic

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think it would

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: now that I know, now I can start pecking at you

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_02]: with some questions because

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that they probably are related

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: to certain tarot cards

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know enough about them

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's that

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Hentacles and the number five are

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_04]: very present

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: in witchcraft

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and supernatural beliefs

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: there are certain numbers that have meaning

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: three

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: seven five nine

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: all the odd numbers

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_04]: pentacles show up in

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_04]: lots of different

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: faiths all over

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_04]: our planet

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: and throughout history

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_04]: pentacles have been used by

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_04]: a number of different cults

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: occult believers

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: witchcraft practitioners

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and religions

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: and I don't

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: really know

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_04]: what the origins are of that

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe that would be some interesting research but

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: it's often believed that

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: that it represents

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: like the five points

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: represent like five elements

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: you know so it's like earth

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: air

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: fire water and

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: spirit or soul

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: whatever which is obviously

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they're connected to all of these parts because it's in the song

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: they needed the green witch

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_04]: arguably the most important skill set

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I assume

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: that the fifth witch

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: that Lilia the black heart

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: was

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Rio

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: because Rio said she has a heart it's black and it beats

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_04]: four

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: well so I guess the question is

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: is Rio really there

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and we don't know it

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: right and I also wanted to know

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_04]: you know she saw the crow

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: the rat and the coyote

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: following her

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_04]: was that Rio

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: well I think that it was

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_04]: was that the Salem 7 or were that familiar

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was the Salem 7

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: is what I think but I don't know

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the answer to that my assumption was

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: because we've got just

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: looking at my notes because we had several animals

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: include the ones that we saw so we had

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: we had the first one was

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the crow

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the second one was the rat

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: the third one

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: was the coyote then we heard an owl

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so I think that's

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't notice the owl so that's four

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_04]: so maybe there was even a fifth one and I didn't catch it

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and then

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: well so and then when the Salem

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: 7 presented there was the lady

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: in the front and she had a bunch

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of stuff on her neck that kind of looked

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like a snake to me

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe there's a snake part I just assumed

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that but now that you mention it maybe

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it was Rio because she was not

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: in the episode

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: when you have an actress like Aubrey Plaza

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: who blew it out of the water in episode one

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and you don't put her in the second episode it makes me

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: think so you know maybe

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe the Sharon

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: character is not really who we

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: think it is

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: she's quote unquote the green witch

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: correct me if I'm wrong there was

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: a scene in episode one where

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: there's like a greenish kind of hue

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: emanating from

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Rio when she was doing some

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: when she turned all black when she was all in that black

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: outfit I think I

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: don't remember that but maybe

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah and we thought about

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: like different witches have different colors

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: or that

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: colors mean something so

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_04]: it could be like a green element

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: um and so this is what

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: excites me the most about this show

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: is that much like the guardians

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: of the galaxy I didn't know much about them

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I know even less about the characters

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in this these all seem like

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: the types of characters that

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: you know you love to get your

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_02]: hands on because they're

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: deep into Marvel

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: lore but they're not

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: known commodities so

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: do we have colors coming out how's

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_02]: this team gonna fit together

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just so excited by

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: all of that because

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it does feel like we're getting this puzzle

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a lot more clear to me than

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the puzzle we got in WandaVision WandaVision

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I just I just was kind of sitting back to the whole

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_02]: thing wondering what the hell is happening

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: here whereas this one

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: this one feels more like

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: magical puzzle

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that's being put together slowly but

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: surely and the pieces that they

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: put together are amazing

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like we know nothing about the Salem 7

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't know the witches that are in there

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_04]: they were so scary though man the way

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_04]: they moved all like herky jerky

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and then like sometimes like

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: skipping forward like as if they had

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: skipped time or teleported or something

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and like the way they were like

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: you know crashing through the windows of the house

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and and the

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: noises they were making and they were like

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: whoever get the heart

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah that was the jump scare

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that we watch

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched that episode right after recorded episode one

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: after I said yeah this show

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't scare me at all that's here

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that's yeah and then

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: one crawling down the stairs

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: so unnatural

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_04]: oh and I

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: love that scene when they're hearing

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: the Salem 7

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_04]: coming and they're in the basement

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and teen runs down

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: the stairs and is like is that the road let's go

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in there you know he's terrified of these

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_04]: these witches coming and then

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Jennifer Kale says

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: no thank you

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: which I love

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: just like I'm out of here

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and I don't remember what Lilia says

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: or Alice but

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: the best is where Sharon is like

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: well I don't know she's like I don't know if I want to

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: go in a magic door like this is crazy

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and Agatha says what's your gut

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_04]: telling you and she's like yeah you're right

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to go up there either

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like I'm out down the door

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: just like hey

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: so what's your gut telling you yeah that's so Catherine

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Hawn too that

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_04]: but she's so like

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: plain speak right she's like

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_04]: let me just boil it down to breast tax for you

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: like do you want to go

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: up there

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: what does your gut tell you about the sounds

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_04]: you're hearing that are coming from upstairs

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know Sharon is like

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah downstairs sounds good I'm alright

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: with her purse and her

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: sunhatch she's so cute

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: so listen okay I've got

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we've got to talk about this right now so let's talk

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_02]: about Deborah Joerup they get her

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you caught this I was

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: laughing so

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_02]: damn hard they bring her

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to the house

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: she goes down into the basement

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the five of them get

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: into a circle and then

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the camera shots are

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: going around each character one at

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: a time just

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like the 70s show did you catch that yeah

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: oh like from the middle like

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_04]: when they would do their weed circles I didn't

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_04]: catch that I didn't make that literally

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: so funny she liver

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: literally says

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_02]: they said

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_02]: who's gonna uh uh Jessica

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: was gonna go high and she's like

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_02]: oh no thank you I don't do drugs

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it began in the

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: whole rest of that scene

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: with them singing this amazing part

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it was a spy it was the circle

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: from that 70s show I was

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: like I was it was like

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I cannot believe they're pulling this off

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: oh I was I thought it was

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: so funny when she goes are we all gonna do

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_04]: laundry together

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_04]: you're so cute if this were

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Game of Thrones

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_04]: one of them would have said oh my sweet

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_04]: summer child

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: oh gosh no we're not gonna do

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: laundry together I just

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: love the fact that they probably

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: just said

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you need to be that 70s show character

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: you need to be that character

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and play that character so what becomes

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: of her in this I mean my

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: hope is that it's her and that she's

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: just a powerful witch that we just never knew about

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: or that she

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: she never knew about it either

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and that this experience

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: like turns her into a powerful

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_04]: witch that would make me really happy

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: for the character right it'd be like

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_04]: you were just like some lady

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: right her husband has passed away

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and now she gardens and then it turns out

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: you're a powerful witch and you have this

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: power you never knew about like that's a great second act in life

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: for sure

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: awesome so the unknown I never got my

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Harry Potter letter when I turned 11

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_04]: but then when I'm

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: 55 I finds out I find out I'm

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_04]: a witch like that's even better

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: oh goodness

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little old

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: to have waited for my Harry Potter

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: letter but um well I you know

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah but I still they're

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: re making they're remaking

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Harry Potter maybe the letters are still coming

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_04]: for older people I do know

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: some people that hired

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_04]: an owl Wrangler

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and had the Wrangler dress

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: up in wizard robes

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and take a letter to their

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_04]: daughter on her 11th birthday

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: come on that's amazing

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: it was some of the cutest pictures I've ever seen

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the kid was like over the moon

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: she was so excited

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: the locket yes

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: whose hair is that

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't know

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean again another

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but see these aren't

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: these are questions you know are going to be answered

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: like I'm so tired of

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: showing us that without answering that question

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: because we of course

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: everybody has black hair like is it

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: is it the kids hair

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is it Rio's hair is it

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_02]: someone's is it her son's hair

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: is her son one of these people

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: is so

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you know as I'm watching the second show

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching this boy and Rio is not

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: part of this at all and I was like wait a

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: second

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: wait a second

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: is he real

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and then I'm like is Deborah Joe

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: we're up Rio and we just

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: there's so much

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: there's there's so much

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: this is so much I

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: have

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew the actresses were going to be

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: amazing yeah

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought maybe the story was going

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to be good and I had a conversation

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: with Jason Kavasi the

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you know podcast because

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_02]: paternal influence we'll say

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: he was very optimistic about the

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: showrunner and

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: was just hesitant

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I am not hesitant anymore we're two episodes

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: into this series and it's so exciting already

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: they've they've asked

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: great questions

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and they haven't done it by just asking the

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: questions this show is based

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: in humor there's so much humor

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: in it it's so funny and it's

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_04]: also really scary

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_04]: it kind of reminds me of

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: like the style of Sam Raimi

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_04]: you know like oh great

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_04]: drag me to hell evil dead

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to like this complete

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: land of spider

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: his second spider-man movie

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: which was literally horror

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: wrapped in humor yeah

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_04]: right and then his Dr. Strange

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_04]: movie was also

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: yes funny horror and

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: this has a similar flavor but

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: very much the female gaze

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04]: very

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_04]: female empowered which you know

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: how refreshing to

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: have all of these

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: extremely strong

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: feminine characters

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: who are

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: completely

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: um empowered

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: by whom they are and not

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_04]: one of them is seeking

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_04]: romance

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: none of them has that plot line

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_02]: nope not at all

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: gosh I never even thought

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that each episode might be

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: cowardly lions finding out

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: how brave he could be I never

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: never occurred to me that we were going to get

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean you can see the Wizard of Oz

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea where you're heading down a

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: road for one thing so you were probably

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: laughing at me all the way through

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: episode one

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the visage

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02]: of the road

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that we get to see there at the end

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: with the shoes sitting there

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it looked like a creepy

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_02]: not that the Wizard of Oz road isn't creepy

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_02]: but it certainly looked like the creepy

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: version of the yellow brick road

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: right like uh

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_04]: the shoe image oh

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my god

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved that

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: shot of the shoes you know from behind

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and them walking down the road

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and just the representation

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: of you know they all took off their shoes

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and they leave them all there neatly

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_04]: you know they're just like

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_04]: side by side and they're all

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: different shoes that each represent

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_04]: the personality of the person who was

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: wearing them Sharon's were like

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: gardening like rubber duck

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: shoes which was perfect for her

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you know and um

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Alice had combat boots

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think the teen had

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_04]: something kind of like combat boots

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Jennifer shoes were like

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: really chic pointy

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_04]: toad ankle boots like

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like this is somebody put some

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: serious thought into what these shoes would

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: be and how they would

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_04]: look from behind and exactly

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: how they would be placed on the path

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: it was it was a beautiful

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: like cinematographic

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: moment

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: perfect way to end

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_04]: perfect way to end that episode

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and I said to myself out loud

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_04]: because I'm a dork and I talked to myself when I'm watching TV

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I said

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought politics made strange bed

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_04]: fellows but magic

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: dork there's no one here listening to you

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_04]: except the cat but um

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: so you should have just called me

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_04]: well you texted

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: me the picture of the teen with his

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: mouth sewn up and just wrote

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: no and I laughed so hard

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I was so excited

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: when she said

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: who are you and I'm like we're gonna find out right

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like no or not

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: so of course I

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: rewound and I listened to whatever sound

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that they made I didn't pay one

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: lick of attention to that little swiggle

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and then she walked up closer

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and I got up off of my

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: couch and went right up to my 65 inch

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: television set and I put my ear up against it

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm like that is not even a real

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that is a that's like a horn

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like muted I'm like they just

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: they're just screwing with us

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and then if I could tell you

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: how long I spent

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: watching him talking

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: in the car trying to figure out what he was saying

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to lip read

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: here's what I found out

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't lip read well

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and that yes yeah

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah that's the only thing I got out of that

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: out of that I was like issue

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_04]: alright we know one thing

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I tried putting like Spanish

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: closed cat I tried everything

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: like maybe they'll put it in Spanish nope

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what makes me think that

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the mother he

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_04]: thinks is his mother is not really his mother

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: is that that was

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_04]: not muted

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: hmm that's a good point

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that just really good point

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_04]: because every other detail about himself

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: has been muted except

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_04]: when he said that the boyfriend

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_04]: is protective or whatever

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and is about his mother going to the concert

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: everything else

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_04]: or and whatever it was about the hokey pokey

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_04]: bowl and then she's like I never want to hear those words

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_04]: paired together again

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I bid on a limited edition

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02]: signed LP of the ballad but it cost

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: more than I make in a whole summer at the hokey pokey

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: bowl I don't ever

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: want to hear those words paired together again

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I again

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: again

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: just didn't have to be there

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but just those two

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: saying those two things

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: fit together a little like a symphony

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: there were so many of those

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: oh my god

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: when she walks in

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to the tarot card place

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_04]: oh and pretends to be like

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_04]: whatever that character was

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: where do you keep your jade eggs

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: oh that one

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: oh when she walks into the

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04]: to the potion

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_04]: oh it was

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry I was in the wrong place

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fresh out of marvels

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and my pelvic floor is all over the place

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and then she says to those

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: two strangers do you want to go splitsies

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like no

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but the best part is the end

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: of that she says that and then goes

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: hmm anyone

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone

[00:41:42] and then

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: when she leaves

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_04]: she takes an egg

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: you'll know where to find it

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: okay I don't know

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: she is one of my favorite

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: actresses

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: she is so amazing

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_02]: in real life

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: this amazing human being

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: super kind person

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I am so happy

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that they found a role for her

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and I so hope

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that this show

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_02]: please if you're watching this

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and hesitate tell friends about this show

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: this show needs to succeed

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_02]: because this character

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_02]: these characters need to continue to be

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_02]: woven in and out of this new phase

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I have loved her for a long time

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_04]: it really does feel like she was born

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_04]: for this role

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_04]: she inhabits it fully

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and I get the

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_04]: sense constantly

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that this is like the most

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_04]: fun she's ever had

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_04]: is playing Agatha

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: she is having a ball

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and who wouldn't?

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_04]: she's over the top, she's campy

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: she's powerful, she's funny

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: she's clearly smart

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: she gets to do physical fights

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: she gets to like

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_04]: wear fabulous clothes

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: she gets to take all those fabulous

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: oh yeah

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: she takes off all her clothes

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she's not, she's a fearless actress

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: she's scary

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you go back to WandaVision and when she turns

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: full on evil

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it's

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: very believably scary

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and the fact that you have

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: a character that because of her skill set

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: her ability to take magic

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you start picturing her

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: with somebody like

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the Sorcerer Supreme

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you start picturing like the kind of

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: havoc that she could create

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the kind of power that she could bring

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: for good or evil

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_04]: get the feeling her choice of whether to be

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: good or evil

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: is going to be self-serving

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_04]: right, like that's who she is

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_04]: she's self-centered

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and maybe this series

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_04]: will bring out another side of her

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and she'll learn to be, I don't know

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_04]: to actually care about other people

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but right now those people

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_04]: are just

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: they're just resources

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_04]: to her, she's like

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I need a coven

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll get one

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and this kid

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll find out what it is

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and see if I can suck that power out of him

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and I still don't know

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: if she really thought

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_04]: they were going to go on the road

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: or if the entire purpose of all of that

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: was just to get enough people in a room together

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: that they would develop

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: a spark of magic that she could steal

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_02]: well you saw

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that, well it sure seemed like it

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: because she has that moment

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: when the road doesn't show up

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: or did she know

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that the road wouldn't show up

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: unless the spark of magic

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: happened and the only way

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_04]: she could get it to happen was by making them mad

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: so here is

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of something that was

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: really not

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: a major part of the show that I feel is sort of important

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_02]: we know

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: she was on the road before

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: we know she made it to the end of the road

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_02]: we have no idea what happened

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we have no idea what the point

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: of that was

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: was it, you know

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: there was a talk of sacrificing

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: a child

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: did she have to sacrifice her son

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: or did her son die

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and she got power from it

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: but she didn't intend that to happen

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_04]: the look on her face when Jennifer Kale

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: said that to her, is this another child sacrifice

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: was so

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: subtle it was like

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I am not going to let you see how much that is making me upset

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_04]: like it was like

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: it was buried

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and it was painful

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was amazing

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it's occurred to me as we are talking

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: if her son died

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: did she go on the road initially

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring him back

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and it didn't work

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: was her power pull

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: with Wanda

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: the only way she could acquire

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: the kind of power she needs

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: to bring her son back

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: is this second attempt

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: like there's just

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and if so

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: then obviously

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Rio plays a part in this somehow

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and I

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: this is so completely far away

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: from what I was talking about in episode 1

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_02]: both of them

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_02]: everything we've been talking about all viable

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_02]: all still on the table

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: could be completely wrong

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_02]: could be completely wrong

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea where this is going

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: like there are certain things

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_04]: that I think I see

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think each character gets an episode

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_04]: where we get their backstory

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure about that

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_04]: but beyond that

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like I don't

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: know where we're going and it is so

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_04]: unusual to not

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_04]: be able to predict where a story is going

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_04]: right? like most stories

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_04]: you kind of know where we're going to end up

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: or you figure it out along the way

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_04]: in this one I'm like it could go anywhere

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't I mean because

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: some of these characters intertwine

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: with Fantastic Four are we heading down

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: a path that somehow incorporates them

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: are we going to stick on the TV side

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_02]: since they've rebranded their television

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: are we heading towards

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: what eventually folds into Vision Quest

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's the same showrunner

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_04]: right? like

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_04]: the showrunner for this

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_04]: wrote the Fantastic Four movie

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: so I have to believe Marvel

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: did that on purpose

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: right? that's not a coincidence

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: they were like I think all of these

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_04]: things link together and that's why

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_04]: they have the same director-writer

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_04]: working on them

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: because they don't do that they don't have

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like the same director work

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: on like a completely unrelated project

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: rare

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Marvel is very careful about keeping

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_04]: their styles together

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_04]: and their voices together

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_04]: where they're meant to be

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think it's

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_04]: a strength of theirs is that they have all these different styles

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and then they know when to mix them

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and when not to mix them that's brilliant

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_04]: but I think they are

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_04]: very sure about

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that WandaVision

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha, Fantastic Four

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_04]: are mixed. Who's running Vision Quest?

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know who's showrunning that

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly did not even

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: know that was a thing

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: until

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I started prepping for Agatha

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: so I have no idea

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what it's about

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what version we're going to get

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't know who's running it

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: or even if they know who's going to run it

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Terry Matalas

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_04]: M-A-T-A-L-A-S

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and it looks like it's going to be

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_04]: in 2026

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: so whatever it's about

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_04]: either comes out of Fantastic Four

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_04]: or is unrelated to Fantastic Four

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_04]: right it's not going to be something that feeds in on it

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Matalas worked on

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_04]: the show Picard

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_04]: for Paramount

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what he has been doing

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: he was the season 3 Picard guy

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: who brought

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: oh come on

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: that's some cleverness there

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: okay so

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: the tie-ins

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they're doing a nice job

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you asked a great question in episode 1

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you asked about the house

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and there it was in episode 2

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I know I was so happy

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I got my first answer

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Wanda's house is there

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and people have been graffitiing it

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_04]: as they should

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but the way she was staring

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: at that house sort of with

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_02]: there was some disdain to it

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_02]: but there was also

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it wasn't just

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: anger

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and then the spitting

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and then the walk away

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I just

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: so good

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: anyways I don't want to

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I could weave in and out of a lot of this stuff yet

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: have a feeling

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: that when I watch episode 3

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have to go back and watch a bit of episode 2

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: because what I noted like I said

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: there were two or three things that happened in episode 2

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that made me go back and watch episode 1

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: A, I think this is the type of show

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that we're going to be able to watch

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and rewatch numerous times

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and catch things

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that we haven't caught before

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so you know seven episodes left

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and we have no answers

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't have really all of the characters

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_02]: on the board yet

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: because some of the characters we know about aren't there

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't, we haven't met

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_02]: any of the Salem 7

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and I assume that's going to be part of this

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it would be silly to have them without them being

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: important

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe not

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope they're not caricature characters

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope they're not like

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you know just sort of

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: these black

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: shrouded people

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope we have a little bit of backstory to them too

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to assume

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_04]: what, I bet they're not going to show up again

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_04]: until towards the end

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: when we get to

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_04]: more of Agatha's backstory

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it's just my feeling

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: is that we're going to get everyone else's backstories first

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and Agatha's will be

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_04]: which makes sense

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_04]: just structurally I think that makes sense

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: so do you think

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_02]: do you think that

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to imagine though

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: at some point on this journey

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that they're going to have to feel

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: pressure from behind them

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and not just what's in front

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: do you think that they're just going to be

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of an end game sort of thing

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_02]: or at some point are we going to start

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_02]: feeling their pressure

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_02]: as we're heading down to the magical world

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're right that there's going to be

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_04]: there's going to be pressure from behind

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_04]: whether that's the Salem 7

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_04]: or Rio

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_04]: or whoever is responsible for the kids

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you know

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_04]: muted magic

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't predict that

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: so as the Salem 7

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to pull in your other show

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: to pull in the lore

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: of your other show are we looking at Ringwraiths here

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: is that what we're looking at

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_04]: that's what they kind of look like

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: they're very racy

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: if they show up on

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: giant black horses then

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_04]: then we'll know that they are

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_04]: living dead creatures of some kind

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I assume

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_04]: that they are the 7

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_04]: which is

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_04]: she stole power from in Salem

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: in WandaVision

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: well I did go back and watch

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: just to make sure that I wasn't just

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: talking out of my butt

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: there were 7

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: there were 7

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_02]: there were 7 streams of power flowing into Agatha

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_02]: when she took their power

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: because that's when I believe she learned

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_02]: that she could take power away

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: it would make sense

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_02]: if those were the 7

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and her new coven has to battle her old coven

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_02]: which

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: is a fun little story

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: how does Rio fit into all that

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand the

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Rio part of the story

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously that's going to be the Agatha part

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_02]: of the story

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: but we don't know our main character's back

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: story

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_04]: at all

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_04]: there's 300 years of emptiness

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_04]: we have no idea it's so great

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_04]: so great

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go through

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_04]: the coven

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and the things we learn about covens

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_04]: we learn that

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: there is a rule called the coven's dead

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: rule

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: that wherever you are a coven there

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_04]: shall be

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and that says that within any 3 mile

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_04]: radius there will be a collection of

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_04]: witchy enough people

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_04]: to form a coven

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and even if those people are weak

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_04]: or what she calls down and out

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_04]: that when you get them together

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_04]: it can create a magical spark

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and then we saw that happen

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_04]: she got the people together

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and they sang the song

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and collectively

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_04]: their power is greater than the sum of its parts

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and they were able to

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_04]: conjure the door

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and enter the road

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like okay

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: we know a thing about a coven

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: add it to the rules list

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I was really excited thinking about covens

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I spent a bunch of time thinking about covens

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and I realized that

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: if I were to say I had a coven

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: lately it's

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: the four of us who are working on the Buffy

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_04]: podcast

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that I've jokingly named the Slay Squad

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like that's my coven

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_04]: that's who's in my coven

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud to be part of that coven

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a good coven

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a strong

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to have to figure out

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to have to figure out our diverse roles

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah exactly

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think we need a fifth member

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_04]: of the coven to make it

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_04]: one of the mystical numbers

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_04]: four might be an unstable number for a coven

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: so I gotta think about that

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: what's fun is immediately like several names

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: popped into my head

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: several names for a lot of different reasons

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: popped into my head

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: we're all four of us cat people too

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_04]: so

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: okay so

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we might have to

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe we'll have a series of guest hosts

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_02]: on this show

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: where we will not let them know that we are

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: interviewing them to be part of our coven

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: it's coven try out time

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_04]: it's fantastic

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought a lot about coven

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_04]: that's why the witchy question of the week this week

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_04]: was what would you name your coven

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_04]: we only got one answer

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_04]: side hustles

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_04]: who wasn't that said that

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I might as well answer now Chad Johnson

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_04]: thank you for answering my question Chad

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and the rest of you come on get with the program

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the witchy question

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_04]: of the week will be for next week

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll come up with something good

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: okay as your cat

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_02]: very appropriately your black cat

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: hops up on

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: real great for the podcast you can't see this

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but Penny's cat just

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: her black cat just hopped up on the chair behind her

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because clearly

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: he wants to know who the fifth member

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of the coven is

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_04]: exactly I have been calling him

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_04]: my familiar for years

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_04]: even though I do not

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_04]: consider myself a practicing witch

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and the most I've ever done

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_04]: is like a you know like

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_04]: a sage blessing on my

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_04]: condo

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and tarot card readings but

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I have always been as we talked

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_04]: about before sort of fascinated by witches and witchcraft

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and so

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I you know you get a black

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_04]: a little black cat you know

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's a witches cat

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_04]: like he just is a witches cat

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I also call him the pod cat

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: because he likes to always be

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_04]: part of the podcasting he like always

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_04]: comes and sits with me when I'm podcasting

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_04]: so the picture that you just posted

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: by the way of

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_02]: him sitting in your chair in front of your laptop

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is fantastic

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: he's always got to be a part of it

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_04]: at home I have a bigger desk

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_04]: at home and he has a cat bed

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: on the desk because

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: it was the only way to get him

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_04]: to stop like knocking over

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_04]: the microphone and like stepping on

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: the keyboard was to give him his own

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_04]: special spot

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_04]: on the desk

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah enough cat talk

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_04]: anyway so covens

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: covens are cool I like the idea

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_04]: of covens it's a word that's also used

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_04]: for vampire groups

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's a

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_04]: coven and I don't know why those are

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_04]: the two supernatural groups

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_04]: that are called covens because you never hear

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean werewolves are always a pack

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_04]: of werewolves

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if other magical

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_04]: creatures have names for what they are

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_04]: when they're grouped together

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a herd of zeds

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah yeah zombies are always

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_04]: a horde or a herd

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_04]: a herd yeah

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah maybe I'll look into that like

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_04]: collective plural

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_04]: plural nouns for

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_04]: mystical creatures

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_04]: for mystical creatures yeah

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think dragons tend

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_04]: to collect in groups

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's a thing

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_04]: they seem to all be loners which always makes

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_04]: me wonder how they breed but whatever

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_04]: we have my other

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_04]: podcast cast of the rings we have mystical

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_04]: creatures on there as well

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_04]: no witches over there it's wizards

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and they are lone

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_04]: creatures

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_04]: wizards wander and

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_04]: are alone

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_04]: but they're really

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_04]: they're sent from the gods it's a

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_04]: whole big thing you if you want to know Tolkien lore

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_04]: listen to that podcast anyway

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely yeah um

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_04]: we never really finished talking about teen

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to circle back and say

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_04]: that his whole motivation for all of this

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: is that he wants Agatha to take him on

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_04]: the road and he says that the

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: road gives you what you're missing

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_04]: and what he's missing is power

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_04]: now why does he need power

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_04]: why is he so intent at 16 years old

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_04]: on acquiring power

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_04]: we don't she never asks him

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_04]: because I don't think she cares

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_04]: no but I want to know

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: like what's happening in his life because he seems

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_04]: like a pretty happy kid

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: you know he's like oh my mom went to that

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: concert and I work at the hokey pokey bowl

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and I have a boyfriend

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_04]: why do you need power kid

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_04]: what's going on

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_02]: we know nothing about him

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_02]: we really don't know anything about

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_02]: any of these characters

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_02]: we know what the motivations are

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_04]: for the other members of the coven

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_04]: right Jennifer Kale

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: she's been bound

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_04]: and she's in

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_04]: in what sort I want

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: mundane world

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_04]: problems lawsuits

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: fraud whatever all that stuff is

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: the the divination

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: which lilia is being

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_04]: evicted from her

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_04]: already kind of crappy apartment

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Alice

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_04]: doesn't know what

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it seems like she's losing

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: her mind

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: her abilities or her yeah

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: or her like control over her ability

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: there was that moment where

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: she says

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha says I'm not looking for

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: right-minded witches as it happens

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and then patty lapone turns around

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and screams

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: katharine hawn goes

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: looks like we came to the right place

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah she's

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you know I guess you know looking to

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: find herself and

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and kind of

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: she's older for sure

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: she's 415 years old or something like

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: that and so she

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe she's just looking for one final road

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: who knows

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: but her life is not great

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_04]: so this is a good

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: choice for her and also

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you know she had a vision of who the names

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: were supposed to be on that in the

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: coven and wrote her own name down without

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: realizing it so

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: in some way she knows that this is meant

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: to happen yeah

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: right so she's following her own vision

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: there and yeah Alice

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: doesn't know what happened to her mother

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and Sharon

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: thought she was coming to a party

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: so we don't really know what motivates

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: her yet we don't have a

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: real handle on her story we know her husband

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: is dead we know that she presents

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: as a complete sweetie pie

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_04]: you know when

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha walks up to her and is like yoo-hoo

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: which was hilarious because you could see her

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_04]: she was like I'm angry

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and then she's like alright get your face

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: you have to perform

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: like it was such a moment of

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: of just fakery

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: but visible fakery it was so

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: hilarious and then she's like Agnes

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: don't you look fabulous

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: like it was

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_04]: it was so not witchy everything about her

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: was not witchy and she's like

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you know your garden looks great and she's like oh no

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: you have not and like oh my god

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_04]: let me just grab my purse a party

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: ah like she couldn't

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_04]: be less like the other characters

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: but she did

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: she said

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: she's like do I have to sing too

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and am I supposed to know the

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: know this song and then she

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: did like you can immediately

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: hear her voice after that

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: as she joins in and then she's the one

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: that spots the door

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe there's power there

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe she's pretending

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: to be this sweet Sharon Davis

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: character the idea

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: that there's like another secret

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: witch hiding in the same

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: street in Westview

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: that Wanda was on and Agatha

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: is on is kind of a stretch

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_04]: but like maybe power is drawn

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to power so

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean in fairness

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_02]: her real name is Sharon Davis

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but she was Mrs. Hart in the

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: fake world of Wanda

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: in that episode one

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: she was Mr. it was Mr. and Mrs. Hart

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we assume that Mr. Hart

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: was her actual husband so he passed away

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't know why he passed away

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: we don't know did she have more

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: of a role in that first series that we don't

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: know about

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and she was Mrs. Hart

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: in the

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: delusion of Agnes

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: of Easttown she was still Mrs. Hart

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: in that so

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry that still makes me

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah this

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: is not a car

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: she's like you're driving

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: very fortunate

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: that he had a car

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: oh man

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: they are so cute together

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: like when he pulls out his phone

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and calls Jennifer out on her lawsuit

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: problems

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: and then Agatha just is like she like folds

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_04]: into him like all of a sudden she's like

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: oh I approve of you

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: you're my kind of people

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: like the way you were like you really cleaned up my pores

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're having a lawsuit like the way

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: you folded those two things together like we are

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_04]: simpati

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_04]: like

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: almost like mother

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: son maybe

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: or maybe nanny

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and former

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: baby

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: sited

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: oh Franklin Richards

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: no

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean anything's possible

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_04]: but

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: uh

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: okay that's just making my brain hurt

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's definitely not

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: no no no

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: if there's a Franklin Richards

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: as a

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: some sort of a wiccan out there

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that story

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: there was kind of like a series of scary events

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: that happened that really enhanced

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: the singing

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: scene which

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to me one of the

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: one of my personal like all time like

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: iconic like Marvel moments is them singing

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that song like all of this stuff

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: is happening in the background

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was really worried about

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the teen you know he's just upstairs

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and the rabbit I was like don't kill the rabbit

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: oh well so

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah I mean

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: there was a very small part

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: that seemed very deliberate

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: when

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: uh the teen walked up

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and grabbed senior scratchy

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and said I got you it's okay

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: buddy and there was a

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe when he first

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: sees the rabbit he goes oh like he was

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of expecting to see him

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: who what this rabbit is

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_04]: we don't know seems

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: seems important though it's seen

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and they he seemed familiar with that rabbit

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta think that

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta think that

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: some I gotta let it go

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta let it go I gotta wait

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta wait to watch episode three

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta wait to watch episode three

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: which yeah that was really my last

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: though

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: so I had that I'm gonna

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna take a peek and see if I can find out the

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: title oh awesome

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: uh so

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: my last sort of two notes are

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought Alice Wu Malkop

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: was hilarious and the way that

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha says to teen

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: run

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: knowing that the Malkop

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: will have to like take him down

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: because it'll look like he's shoplifting

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and that that will be their way in with her

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that was just very silly and funny

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and um

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: the closing credits have a different song this week

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: it's an instrumental piece

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not season of the witch

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: it had really spooky

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: um

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: vocalizations that were

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: there were no words it was just like

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: like that

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and I couldn't tell

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: what all the instruments were but I think there was

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: a harpsichord mixed in there

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and it was spooky

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I also think that there were

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: some new images that weren't in there

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: last time

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: uh I have to

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to try to I tried to catch it

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but I

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to like go through frame

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's gonna take long

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: time to analyze that and I haven't gotten

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: there yet so maybe

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_04]: for episode three I will

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: have the time to go frame by frame

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: through there um

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: of course if we have a fantastic listener

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a fantastic listener out there

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: who's just staring at the closing credits

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to figure them all out and if you

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: could please the tarot cards in the

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: closing they're driving me nuts I don't

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: know what they mean and they need someone to tell me what they mean

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I'll try I'll make a particular

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: note to try to look at those because

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm interested in that as well

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: alright we're gonna take a little break

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and we'll be right back

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and we're

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_04]: back and we have

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: a little bit of news although it's not really

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: news it's more like speculation

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_04]: this is an article from screen rant

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: com and I just pulled out some

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: excerpts uh

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_04]: there is a lot of speculation

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_04]: about Mephisto

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and a character called Blackheart

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: from Marvel Comics and whether or not

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: they're going to be part of this show

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_04]: so Mephisto is based

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: on the

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Faust demon character

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Mephistopheles and he's one

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: of Marvel Comics most notable recognized

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: and powerful supervillains this

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: prominence makes his debut in the MCU

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_04]: inevitable but Mephisto

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_04]: has now been heavily rumored

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: to be making his grand entrance

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_04]: for several years with hints

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: of his existence being featured in

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: WandaVision, Loki and

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_04]: She-Hulk Attorney at Law among others

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha Ola Long may have

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: just teased Mephisto yet again

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: as there were several mentions of a

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart which could in fact

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: be referring to Marvel Comics as Blackheart

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart is

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: a terrifying character in Marvel Comics

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_04]: created by Ann Nassenti and John

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Romita Jr. in first scene

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: in 1989's Daredevil

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Number 270 most

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: commonly depicted as a dark and

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: demonic adversary to ghost writer

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart has crossed paths

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: with a number of other heroes including

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Daredevil, Spider-Man, Wolverine

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Wonder Man and Sam Wilson

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: among others

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart is remarkably powerful

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: with a wealth of supernatural abilities

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and interestingly

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: he's also depicted as Mephisto's son

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: as the more notable demon

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_04]: used magic to create Blackheart

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Agatha Ola Long's first two episodes

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: mentioned a quote

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart on several occasions

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Patty Lepone's Lilia Calderou

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: notes in episode 2 that the fifth name

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: she jotted down as a

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: prospective member of the new coven

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: wasn't a name at all but a drawing of a Blackheart

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: which then Agatha is like

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: ugh you were using a Blackpen

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: so funny

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: but it also refers to Aubrey Plaza's Rio

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_04]: who as we said earlier had that line

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a heart it's black and it beats

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_04]: for you

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: so they could very easily

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: have gender swapped Mephisto's child

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart and that could be Rio

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: or

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart is another character that's going to show up

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: or Mephisto's going to show up

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_04]: or neither of those things is going to happen at all

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: it's all just speculation

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's interesting speculation

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Mephisto has been rumored in so many shows

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that if they actually

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: pulled it off I would be

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: very disappointed

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_04]: you like it just being a rumor?

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: well I mean Mephisto is a no manipulator

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and it almost seems

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: like we're breaking the fourth wall

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: with him

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: his rumored

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah his rumored appearance

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: showing up in so many different shows

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: but if they caught in

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm not familiar with Blackheart from the comics

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: but that would make so much sense if Rio is

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Blackheart

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: especially when you consider that the characters in the show are

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you know true

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: bit players isn't the right word but like

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: deep cut

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: kinds of characters

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: if I didn't know any better

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say this is like

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: James Gunn is like someone because these are the types of characters

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: he historically has loved

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: so I love that we have some

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: showrunners that are like doing these

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: deep pulls with these characters

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I do too

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_04]: we just got one piece of listener feedback this week

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and Jim you want to read that?

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright Brad Holt two for two keep it coming

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and if you're listening please send us some feedback

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to be recording

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: episode three

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[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: alright Brad Holt

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: great two episode

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: actually was Brad the one who mentioned Mephisto

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: in our episode one? No I think that was

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Peck. Okay

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: oh fine figures

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: alright great two

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: episode premiere we caught up with Agatha

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: got a coven teen has

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: protection spell mystery

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: nice musical diddy Wanda is on

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the town's DL and

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: we have an ensemble

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: mission loved how Agatha calls out each

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: witch before the door appears

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: coward, fraud, disappointment

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: which tells us what each is

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_02]: seeking we already know

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: we already knew Mrs. Davis

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Hart was lonely looking for connection

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Agatha baits the witches confession

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: confessing her need for power

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: then the door appears it's almost

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: like the song summons the door

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: but it can only be seen

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and open when honesty is spoken

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: wow that's pretty good

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I really like that theory that's very cool Brad

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah keep them coming

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: if you're going to be that insightful like please

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: write in every episode

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe Colin

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: oh yeah we'd love to hear your voice that would be great

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: so that's our show

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: next time will be episode 3

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: do we know the title yet?

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: we absolutely positively

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: know the title

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the title is

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Through Many Miles

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: of Tricks and Trials

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: so we are definitely getting lyrics of the song

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[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Strange Indeed has been

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: covering the Great British Bake Off

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: for the last few years

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: it's kind of a hilarious fit for them

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: because Strange Indeed started out

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[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and they mostly cover

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[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_04]: creepy shows especially they do the

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Mike Flanagan shows

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: that are all really dark and really good

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and great coverage

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and they a few years

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: ago they used to do just like a 5 minute

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: bit about Great British Bake Off

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: at the end of their other

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: podcasts and then they started

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: covering the full

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_04]: episodes they started a whole thing and now it's

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: this tradition and it's like a nice

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_04]: palette cleanser from all the darkness

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and they have a really good time with it

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and I know the people who are doing it

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: it's Rima, Wendy and Greg are

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: super excited it's like their favorite

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: thing. I'm not a huge

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Great British Bake Off watcher because

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know watching a cooking show when you don't

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: get to eat the food right afterward

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: is hard for me but

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm about to

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: make people have

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: opinions about me. I have never

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: watched a second

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: of the Great British Bake Off

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and every single human that I know

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: has said Jim

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you need to watch this show

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it will cure your anxiety

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: so it's out

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: there for me to watch someday

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but not yet

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that I would watch it

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_02]: just to listen to their podcast though

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_04]: that's kind of what got me to do it

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I was like well

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to hear the podcast so

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll watch a few episodes but every time

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I get frustrated by the not being

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: able to immediately eat the food that they

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: have prepared so

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: this is a problem I have with all cooking shows

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: also

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: from season 3

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: premiered this week and

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I broke down and watched the episode even though

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I did not have the brain space for it

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I just couldn't wait any longer so I watched it yesterday

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: it was awesome

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm really looking forward to the podcast

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: coverage because they do such a great job

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and if you like what we do

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: we'd love a rating or a review

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: on any platform

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: where you listen to podcasts

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at our reviews

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: for the Marvel TV cast which is

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_04]: a stream of podcasts

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: that Podcastica does

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: where the hosts change from show

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: to show so it's not just one set of posts

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_04]: but the last review was

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: 2022 so

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: we could use some fresh reviews on there

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah pop and I mean

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: you know the algorithm stuff like pop and give us a review

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: it just helps other listeners find us

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and also if you say nice stuff

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_04]: it'll make me and Jim really happy

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah well and you know we'll read it

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll read it if we remember to look

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and we'll remember to look because I'm going to start looking

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: so thanks for listening

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and until next time

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm Penny

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm Jim

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: get with you with it