77: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)

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[00:01:26] Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast, I'm Jason and I'm Kirk and this is Marvel TV Cast-Up, so it's 77.

[00:01:34] In this episode we are covering Deadpool and Wolverine Bob.

[00:01:39] Yeah, I'm excited like when I... I've been wanting to cover this movie for a long time,

[00:01:44] I was excited for it from the moment it was announced.

[00:01:48] And I always had a good feeling about it.

[00:01:51] I don't know why, I guess just thinking that if Hugh Jackman came back, that must mean that it was

[00:01:56] probably gonna be good right because he said Logan was gonna be his last time as Wolverine.

[00:02:01] Yeah. Well and also, I mean the two Deadpool movies were fit in task.

[00:02:04] Yes, and it was the same people involved.

[00:02:06] The same people involved and you knew that they were gonna have the same level of commitment to making good.

[00:02:13] And they just have so much fun with it, you know, Brian Reynolds.

[00:02:17] My worry was always just the transition to Disney and the idea that no one has had an already

[00:02:24] had film or Disney's all Prudish, so that was not Prudish.

[00:02:31] Before we get into it too much, I want to announce because I haven't been on this podcast for a long time that

[00:02:39] you guys did echo. I was, I think the last thing we did was that the last thing?

[00:02:43] I think so, yeah, but we put a bunch of the old Marvel shows in this feed if you haven't

[00:02:47] looked back and checked. But there's gonna be one coming up.

[00:02:50] Agatha all along, it's coming out September 18th.

[00:02:53] That's the spin-off to the first Disney slash Marvel TV show, one division.

[00:02:58] We're gonna be covering it on this podcast. That's gonna be, thanks on Jim and other guest hosts.

[00:03:05] Penny's been excited about this one since we first heard about it because she loved it.

[00:03:08] Yeah, I remember her talking about it before. Yeah.

[00:03:11] One division is my favorite of the Marvel shows and if you guys remember listening Agatha was that

[00:03:18] witch that masquerade, it is the nosy neighbor Agnes. If you haven't seen that, spoilers but anyway,

[00:03:25] this show is run by Jacqueline Chafer who was one of the one division writers and hopefully

[00:03:30] really good. We'll see. I mean, the preview looks good. I think that they've got a lot to work with

[00:03:38] up from this been a while since the one division series but there were a lot of loose ends and

[00:03:45] she was a hit character, which I'm sure. Yes, she was. Which is a great actress, great actress and

[00:03:53] it's an interesting transition of the role from the comic. It's very different than the comic

[00:03:59] in some respects in a lot of respects. I'm tempted to ask you about that but I think we should

[00:04:06] guest on the Agatha podcast and talk about it and we'll move on to Deadpool.

[00:04:12] In general, it sounds like you like the Wolverine movie, huh?

[00:04:17] Hi, is it our Katy Curse? Absolutely. Yeah, it's basically what I'm talking about this one.

[00:04:22] I fucking hated it. No, I'm kidding. No, no, I loved it. Yeah, I think that, you know,

[00:04:32] this film is why we love MCU in the first place. You know, great stories, wonderful team

[00:04:40] ups, great villains, great character development and of course amazing battles sequences. I mean,

[00:04:45] it had it all. Yeah, I think it went a long way to restoring faith and Marvel. Certainly,

[00:04:51] the box office says that. Yeah, Marvel has had a slump lately and you know, there's talk about

[00:04:58] superhero fatigue and I think super-how fatigue is actually real but I think what's more important

[00:05:04] is whether the movie's any good or not. I'm sorry, I got a, again, I got to pick a fight with you

[00:05:08] on that. Yeah, you don't think it's more important whether the movie's any good. What did this film end

[00:05:13] up doing? Was it, was it over two billion or just under two billion or something? Something like that.

[00:05:18] It's the most successful rated arm of the average. I have no idea. I'm probably, I'm probably way

[00:05:23] off. I know it was over a billion. Yeah. How could there be superhero fatigue if that, you know,

[00:05:30] I mean, how? Can you say that? Well, I mean, there's, there's a huge garbage, garbage, or I don't

[00:05:36] know if you're hearing what I'm saying but that's pretty much exactly what I don't, I don't

[00:05:40] never listen to the comments. I said, I said both. I think, you know, you come out with a lot of

[00:05:47] same genre movie and yeah, there's going to be some fatigue but the part I don't think you heard is

[00:05:52] most important thing is whether it's a good movie. So super here if it's eager not, if it's

[00:05:57] good people are going to watch it and I think that's what this movie shows. And I am super excited

[00:06:04] for a fantastic for coming up which I think a lot of people who don't read comics and only watch

[00:06:09] the movies are like why? Why would they make that because the fantastic form movies that have

[00:06:13] come out haven't been that great but if they can capture the movies it'll be good. And I'm also

[00:06:17] excited for Superman James Gunne because James Gunne is a great filmmaker and I'm really

[00:06:23] hopeful that he's going to do great with that. So even though I've had some superhero fatigue

[00:06:28] if it's going to be good, I'm going to be there you know what I mean? I mean as a comic book fan all my

[00:06:34] life it's impossible for those words to come out of my mouth. I get fatigued of bad movies.

[00:06:44] Yeah, bad superhero movies or television you know and it does become frustrating but

[00:06:54] but I will always you know I'll always be there for a great comic book film you know what I mean?

[00:07:02] Sure. I just think as a general audience and I want to spend two inch time on this but

[00:07:06] you know things come in a way sometimes there will be a wave of fantasy there'll be ways

[00:07:10] to like Western around for a long time you know so you wonder if it could be like that but

[00:07:16] I mean the point is here's a great movie so let's talk about this movie. I'm going to read a bit

[00:07:21] of a synopsis before we get into our points just because I think people like to be reminded

[00:07:26] of what happened. I kind of called this together myself and it was a bit confusing and I may have

[00:07:30] been fuzzy on some parts so maybe you can help me with some of it but I'll try it will see but

[00:07:36] people so he used cables time travel device in Deadpool 2 to prevent the death of his girlfriend

[00:07:43] Vanessa and so he still had that so that's well in addition in addition to that though he also went

[00:07:51] and corrected a whole bunch of different things in the timeline at the end of that movie.

[00:07:55] Oh I haven't seen it in a while yeah like it goes and kills Ryan Reynolds before he

[00:07:59] just started to do the Greenlander movie together. Johnson kills the shitty dead pool that had his

[00:08:05] mouth so shut right so funny shit but he uses that that's how he gets to this main sacred timeline

[00:08:15] 16 16 MCU universe in this picture. Yeah yeah yeah yeah so he goes there tries to join the

[00:08:24] so to give his life meaning at least in part so Vanessa would take him back as they've

[00:08:30] broken up. Happy Hogan says no six years later we find Deadpool's broken up with Vanessa

[00:08:36] retired from being Deadpool works as a as a use car salesman then the TVA or time variance

[00:08:44] authority which if you watch Loki you know or this organization outside of space and time that

[00:08:49] oversees the multiverse all timelines and try to preserve the sacred timeline. I think they noticed

[00:08:55] him because he's been using this time travel device which can fuck with the fabric of the universe

[00:09:00] they capture them they bring him to one of their agents whose paradox played by Matthew McFade

[00:09:07] and who played Tom Wombs Gans on succession. I'm going to interrupt just for a second yeah yeah yeah

[00:09:13] I think that also the at the end of Loki the job of the TVA changes quite a bit and I don't

[00:09:22] think there any longer just pruning alternate timelines right they're not supposed to be. Right and so

[00:09:31] he's going around with the time machine that he stole creates new timelines but they don't really

[00:09:38] get involved in or that's not why he gets taken into task by the TVA this particular villain

[00:09:47] just to get to what he's going to do yeah yeah so I just think they noticed him because he was doing

[00:09:52] that but yeah so this guy is kind of a rogue paradox and he tells Deadpool that his

[00:09:59] universe is deteriorating because it's anchoring who turns out to be Logan died which spoilers we

[00:10:07] thought in Logan but I mean if you watch Deadpool and Wolverine you know that too. Paradox doesn't want

[00:10:13] to wait for it to die out and have to babysit it he wants to accelerate the death of that

[00:10:18] universe with this time rip or device uh I wasn't sure exactly why he said he wanted to show the

[00:10:24] TVA that he's efficient and I think he just wants to somehow use it to improve his station get

[00:10:30] promoted or something did you get that yeah it's a little it was that was a little vague I think

[00:10:35] he disagreed with the philosophy and he wanted to show them or prove to them that you know

[00:10:40] this the old way was the better way kind of like an internal almost like a rebellion

[00:10:46] or you know that he was trying to kind of lead and I also wasn't sure how paradox thought

[00:10:53] Deadpool could help him with that um like why picked Deadpool out so that we can't pause

[00:11:04] yeah there's a couple there there are a number there are a couple little things and I talked

[00:11:11] but I tried to address them too a little bit further down when we get to the crimson

[00:11:16] with that story like I agree it's not really clear to me he I know I remember what he tells

[00:11:21] can he says you know we're gonna give you the opportunity to go over to the 616

[00:11:28] and have your you know have all your dreams made true you know

[00:11:35] and that's because the powers of be fuel you need to you know for some reason you need to be there

[00:11:40] I mean I think the implication was that he was given this task but to get to get Deadpool

[00:11:49] for the TVA and bring him to the 616 because he played some important role implied with the

[00:11:55] Thorce sequence that you see and then what he ever tells him why what happens in that you know I

[00:11:59] mean I think the implication is that he's gonna have some sort of important role I don't wonder if that's

[00:12:04] a plan it's coming up right correct something correct with that because we don't go back to

[00:12:09] Thorcrying but that then the destroying of his timeline that is separate that's where I

[00:12:18] think he's on the rails from the TVA okay yeah so either way Deadpool decides I don't want

[00:12:25] my world to die so he stills one of the TVA time-hopping devices one of those ten paths

[00:12:32] and decides to find a log in from another world and bring him back to replace the dead one

[00:12:39] and hopefully save his universe because it needs an anchor being so that's when he meets a bunch of

[00:12:45] Wolverine variants who all turn him down but finally finds one who I think he just passed out

[00:12:51] drunk and so Deadpool dragged him to the TVA then paradox says no the anchor being can't be replaced

[00:12:58] and by the way this is the worst Wolverine ever anyway of any of them and paradox and that

[00:13:07] he's done bad things and then I think that's when Deadpool started to realize that paradox was

[00:13:12] rogue and so he paradox felt threatened so he sent Wolverine and Deadpool to this place called the

[00:13:19] void which is a pocket dimension at the end of time that we also saw in Loki well they they they

[00:13:25] they start to rebel he starts to rebel and so then he gets then he gets batonned or whatever you call it

[00:13:32] right and and this is this void is a place where the TVA sends people who've been pruned from

[00:13:38] their timelines for being like threats or whatever other reasons Deadpool tells Wolverine's

[00:13:46] pissed at the whole situation starts fighting Deadpool they have a great fight but then Deadpool tells

[00:13:50] Wolverine know that TVA can change your past and prevent this catastrophe that happened to you

[00:13:55] right yeah and so then they meet what seems like captain America but turned out to be Johnny Storm

[00:14:04] and we'll get more into all this but I'm just trying to make it go through a quick then Deadpool

[00:14:08] Wolverine and Johnny Storm are captured by minions of the professor exes sadistic twin sister Cassandra Nova

[00:14:15] who's headquartered in the giant body of an ant man variant a corpse she's made a deal with the

[00:14:21] TVA to oversee the void she kills Johnny after Deadpool tells her that Johnny insulted her

[00:14:28] then Wolverine and Deadpool I'm gonna skip over some stuff here but they meet a deadpool very

[00:14:34] shows them there's a resistance group that's been fighting Cassandra Nova who turns out to be

[00:14:39] a bunch of other heroes stuck there mostly from 20th century fox marvell movies

[00:14:45] electro gambit blade X 23 I'm not exactly clear why they were all banished they're either

[00:14:54] I'm not sure at all that much but well the I think there what they said was that the TVA came and took

[00:15:01] because their universe was dying okay and they knew that they would resisted or fight it

[00:15:08] or tried to do something about it so they just oh yeah that's that's what electro says I don't know

[00:15:15] yeah I think that's right sounds good so then they somehow realized that and I kind of

[00:15:22] miss this a little bit too but that Cassandra Nova can get them out of there but they know that

[00:15:29] can't get closer because she's such a powerful telepathic telekinetic so they decide to

[00:15:34] get juggernaut helmet and put it on her head which they do and then they convinced her to open

[00:15:40] a portal to Deadpool's world which Deadpool and Wolverine jump through while everybody else is fighting

[00:15:46] all of her minions and then Cassandra Nova finds out that paradox well find out about his plan

[00:15:53] to accelerate Deadpool universe's death with the time-ripper device so she decides to use it

[00:16:00] to try to destroy all the timelines basically all of reality except for the void which she will

[00:16:06] rule over and she summons an army of Deadpool variants who fight Deadpool and Wolverine until

[00:16:13] Deadpool's friend Peter arrives and distracts them then paradox tells Deadpool and Wolverine that

[00:16:19] of them could destroy the time-ripper by connecting basically the two halves of it and disrupting

[00:16:24] its power flow creating a circuit or something like that but it would atomize whoever did it

[00:16:30] and they both want to be the one to do that but they end up having to do it together holding hands

[00:16:37] and destroying it together saving Deadpool's reality slash universe slash timeline in which

[00:16:43] Wolverine decides to stay and Vanessa somehow realizes that Deadpool has done something worthwhile

[00:16:49] and they get back together yay everyone's happy so that was a good start to that ending

[00:16:59] oh I know so why don't you go with what I want to talk about well first I kind of just an overview

[00:17:12] you know I would put this film for me almost equal with spider-man Noah Helm for how much I

[00:17:18] enjoyed it I love that movie yeah it was similar in many ways too I felt you know you got the

[00:17:24] first cameo guess the establishment of past fox characters and this in that case is Sony characters

[00:17:30] like the villains into the MCA MCU lore a team up of heroes from different IP

[00:17:39] and then of course you jackman and Ryan Reynolds have great chemistry just like the

[00:17:43] like a old buddy cop but also as the same as the three spider-man you know that the chemistry between

[00:17:48] the three on them and that movie was fantastic slow great you know the evolution of the

[00:17:53] characters over the course of the film is what people want to see and you know in no way home it was

[00:17:59] Peter learning the classic you know with great power comes great responsibility lesson in this film

[00:18:04] Wolverine is kind of learning that you know get past self-loving and become the self-sacrificing

[00:18:09] you know hero he always wanted to be so you know there's a lot of similar journeys and

[00:18:14] I saw a lot of similarities between the two films and I think they were and yet it's not it's not

[00:18:19] like a repeat it's its own it's definitely it's yeah but I hadn't thought about that

[00:18:24] what you're so right yeah it's one thing that's there's not much that can be done about this

[00:18:32] but I could see some people thinking it was a bit of a downside of both of these movies is that

[00:18:40] you have so many characters that you can't quite give them all they're due you know which is

[00:18:47] it's just impossible like yeah and also well more with Deadpool than the Spider-Man

[00:18:53] away home but with Deadpool he's got such a it's such a comedy and the tone of it is so like

[00:19:01] fucking crazy that it doesn't really fit with the tone of some of these other heroes movies so they

[00:19:07] might feel a little bit out of place but that's a minor thing I mean I'd rather have them in

[00:19:16] as you mentioned yeah I agree I think that these two films do it successfully I think a good

[00:19:24] example of what you're saying would be multiverse of madness which had the opportunity to kind of

[00:19:33] bring in a number of cameos and have them mean something really but it I'm my opinion it kind of failed on

[00:19:40] yeah versus versus those these two films you know I agree in the Spider-Man movies you

[00:19:47] mainly get focused on talk-ock and green gobbling but in terms of character development or whatever but

[00:19:54] to me it it all worked really really well in the same way I love it that might be my favorite

[00:19:59] superhero maybe ever so yeah it's a fantastic I mean in plus it was just so well

[00:20:05] the secrets were kept so well yeah yeah so it was like Toby McGuire we've tried to get him

[00:20:13] it seemed like maybe he'll do a quick cameo and then he ends up being that's Photoshop that

[00:20:18] that image of me is Photoshop yeah that's great and and Laura the one the actress that plays Laura

[00:20:25] X-23 did a pretty good job she got called on the carpet of it and she was like I had nothing

[00:20:31] you know I would love to have been in but people bought it too but then they ruined that

[00:20:37] they put her in the commercial put her in the trailer that's what you do though you got a lie just

[00:20:43] straight up love absolutely metal absolutely and it was stupid to even ask people now at this point

[00:20:49] I know they're going to be nice yeah so my first favorite point or of my first of my points of

[00:20:58] interest you know the opening fight sequence is just off the freaking charts you know I love

[00:21:05] that they said they wouldn't decorate the Logan film they made a big deal about that and yet here

[00:21:10] it starts off literally desecrating Logan's grave yeah this will be said how the question with this

[00:21:17] movie how are we gonna do it without decorating the metal Logan we're not we're not

[00:21:25] and and using his bones as weapons was so freaking creative you know of course I

[00:21:34] only challenged it big you know how did he ever break the bones to use them right because they're

[00:21:40] admin I don't think about that yeah not that's and having the actors names on them and

[00:21:47] especially like when one would go through somebody's head and blood it was splatter out then you

[00:21:52] see the actors name on it so it's fantastic and then the music choice I mean you know the

[00:21:59] the bye-bye by and the dance moves and just it was so Deadpool you know what I mean yeah

[00:22:05] it was just it was perfect and like man I don't remember if it was in this one this fight or another fight

[00:22:12] but like cause any put the claws on you know and he said like I'm so wet right now or something

[00:22:19] and then he shoved one up one of their asses and was like moving it back and forth he had one in the

[00:22:25] crotch of one guy and one in the ass would be other and he was just going back and forth and it's like this is so

[00:22:31] wrong and it's so wrong it's so right wow watching this you know I typically don't like movies that

[00:22:43] have a glee of violence from the hero or quote unquote heroes point of view like John Wake I

[00:22:50] don't love the John Wake movies I especially didn't like the natural bone killers but um this I

[00:22:57] thought was great and I'm like why do I feel that way I think it's just because it's such a comedy

[00:23:02] that it feels like cartoon you know yeah it's comedy so it's okay because you know the whole story

[00:23:12] is about Deadpool wanting his life to matter and to be a hero basically you know that's that's

[00:23:17] one way I think you know the question like as you said at the beginning is okay it's Disney's version

[00:23:23] of Deadpool or they're gonna water it down they really didn't but the way they did sort of marvel

[00:23:28] if I is to have him sort of step up and be even more I mean I mean you guess he's always a hero in

[00:23:33] his movies but I felt like he wanted to do even more that way but still he's killing all these people

[00:23:39] and it's like if this is a regular Marvel hero then it would seem kind of wrong but with that

[00:23:45] pull it just kind of works yeah I mean I think that the again the the two previous movies really

[00:23:51] set that tone and and I think it's partly because you also want some diversity to the types of

[00:23:59] movies and comics yes just like in comics you know I love traditional superhero movies I also love

[00:24:05] dark our rated type of comic um absolutely it's nice to have that variety yeah and I hope

[00:24:12] superman is hopeful again yeah yeah yeah I think it will be yeah I mean I didn't comment when you

[00:24:17] made that comment about James but I agree with you all heartedly you know I'm not a big DC fan

[00:24:25] I never was but I've you know I love Batman and I've seen all of the the major Batman and Superman

[00:24:33] and just this league movies and all that stuff flash I really enjoyed the flash when we all

[00:24:38] though got trashed but so you know I think it only helps you know I'm kind of coming

[00:24:44] Figgy was asked once about his feelings about you know him taking over and rebuilding DC and

[00:24:50] and James gun and I think that you know his response was perfect he's like hey you know the more

[00:24:57] good superhero movies the better and I mean then he looks he was looking forward to it I am to

[00:25:03] yeah and I mean I said I think no way home might be my favorite superhero movie but

[00:25:09] think about it I think the guardians of the galaxy movies are for me just a little

[00:25:15] of that or write the same level and so I have so much respect for James gun and can't we just see what he did

[00:25:22] yeah I think he he brought he brought a level of heart to the characters yeah and did it through

[00:25:31] visuals he did it through relationships he did it through character building and he did it through music

[00:25:35] and you know and I think that that was unique and and something special that said a lot

[00:25:42] of a lot of tone for other movies that followed I mean yeah like style two it yeah art of the

[00:25:50] history of those movies just permeates to every detail and I think Deadpool and Wolverine has

[00:25:57] that same thing it's not the exact same feel although it's not too far away from those movies actually

[00:26:02] but um the same thing you can just feel the joy of it in the making of it you know it's just

[00:26:09] it's just permeates the quality of it in my opinion I don't know if I'm making any sense but no you are

[00:26:15] okay I'm gonna talk about how this movie is about Disney buying 20th century Fox

[00:26:24] because um you're right if I think most people probably know this but for anybody who doesn't know

[00:26:30] the film rights to various Marvel Comics heroes have been spread across different movie companies

[00:26:36] because before Marvel had a movie making arm they needed to make money so they would sell the

[00:26:44] film rights so Sony has the rights spider-man and all his supporting characters they kind of

[00:26:50] loan spider-man to Marvel which is Marvel's owned by Disney so that spider-man can be in Marvel

[00:26:56] movies but he belongs the film rights still belong to Sony Disney slash Marvel has the right

[00:27:03] now to most of the other Marvel heroes especially since Disney bought 20th century Fox back in 2017

[00:27:10] before that Fox had the rights to all the X-Men characters which includes Gambit to the fantastic

[00:27:19] for Daredevil Electra and Deadpool Deadpool's one of the I feel like probably one of the X-Men

[00:27:27] adjacent ones so this is the first Deadpool movie since Disney bought Fox so that's why

[00:27:35] Kirk and I were like what was it gonna be like under Disney what it keeps its rated our edge

[00:27:40] and so since Deadpool the character operates on this metal level a lot where he breaks the

[00:27:46] fourth wall talks the audience seems aware that he's in a movie and aware of actors names

[00:27:51] and other things in our world I just think it's super clever to make this whole movie about

[00:27:56] the impact of Disney buying 20th century Fox in a lot of different ways you know what

[00:28:03] him questioning him saying we came in at a low point for Marvel at one point you know

[00:28:10] yeah he said you're joining at a low point yeah welcome to the MCU you're joining at a low point

[00:28:17] but with Disney buying Fox they've been in the process of integrating these characters into

[00:28:23] the MCU which means could mean the end of previous versions like we know the fantastic for

[00:28:31] that starred Chris Evans is Johnny Storm slash the human torch has already been recast with

[00:28:37] Pedro Pascal Joseph Quinn Vanessa Kirby had been Mossbackrock for the new one that comes out next

[00:28:44] here which I can't wait for and then this he's not a Fox guy but it's the same idea despite

[00:28:49] Wesley Snipes saying there will ever only be one blade there's a new blade movie with Marshal

[00:28:55] Ali coming next year which that's the joke you know we we know that as Marvel fans

[00:28:59] Dared Evel's already been recast with then the amazing Charlie Cox after Ben Affleck played him

[00:29:05] in the earlier movie right an electric to a LED there was a chanting Tadeum Gambit

[00:29:13] movie in development for years but never saw the light a day which was why it was really fun

[00:29:20] in my opinion to see him in this role finally yeah so we have all these great and some not so

[00:29:27] great Fox movies at the first two X men movies are some of my favorite superhero movies

[00:29:33] you know Wolverine was really made in those and of course the excellent Logan movie that came out

[00:29:40] in 2017 lots of them so when Disney Bot Fox it seemed like all that was in the past and it

[00:29:47] might be but this movie starring one of the most successful Fox characters deadpool and showing

[00:29:54] his transition to Disney and maybe Wolverines too I'm not clear on whether Hugh Jackman is back

[00:30:00] for good until he's 90 or not but uh this movie is great line yes this movie's maybe a swansong

[00:30:08] all those other heroes and it really did feel like a love like I went into it thinking oh are they

[00:30:15] again I bring mutants in and this is gonna be the way they transition into Marvel and we can talk

[00:30:19] about that maybe it kind of wasn't a way I don't know but yeah it felt more like a love letter to the

[00:30:23] Fox universe and almost like a series finale for for that you know and that's why like

[00:30:29] electric says let's face it's face it our worlds forgot about us or gambit right we never learned

[00:30:35] and then they decide to fight Cassandra Nova's people electric says we need an ending or something

[00:30:42] like that so it was just a night and then at the end they showed all those outtakes from the Fox

[00:30:48] movies and Kevin Feige you know the chief architect of the MCU he was a producer on the first

[00:30:56] X-Men movies so I don't know it's just a nice reverent respectful way to revisit these characters

[00:31:04] and not just let them end without some closure and I thought that was really cool yeah I agree

[00:31:11] I absolutely think that that was the intention and you know like you said the Feige started off with

[00:31:19] X-Men I think he's always felt that that got you know that didn't get the treatment it should have

[00:31:26] on so he wanted to have it get some respect at the end here you also just didn't mention universal

[00:31:35] owns the distribution rights to Hulk which is why we don't get any Hulk movies we have plenty of

[00:31:42] Hulk in movies but an actual Hulk movie would would be distributed through Universal and so that

[00:31:49] doesn't make sense for them to cause wise it's so frustrating I wanted to be a Mark Ruffalo

[00:31:54] Hulk movie and also the whole thing was it wasn't just like Spider-Man and some of the key

[00:32:01] characters it was the entire IP of everything associated with Spider-Man so it was like 900 characters

[00:32:06] you know things like the X-Men they couldn't say X-Men they couldn't say mutants so you know it was

[00:32:14] really limiting the whole thing the whole universe changed when they got access to all that IP

[00:32:21] yeah and now I mean Sony still doing I think it's it's worth just spreading awareness that the

[00:32:29] movies that Sony does about Spider-Man's supporting characters have nothing to do with Marvel or

[00:32:37] Marvel entertainment like Madame Webb Marvel didn't have anything to do with that you know and venom

[00:32:42] which I think are great but those are Sony movies yep um the one of vampire one too

[00:32:50] yeah it would be obvious and what's coming up just bombs just total bombs Craven the Hunter is coming up

[00:32:58] yeah I don't think this I could be wrong but I think that this was like you said a send

[00:33:06] off in some ways or a tribute to or but I think it will end up being more than that by the time we

[00:33:13] get to secret wars I think this is partly how they're going to give us the X-Men and mutants

[00:33:24] introduced before secret wars and by using the Fox characters I think it'll be the

[00:33:33] the Fox universe that's colliding with the 616 universe and we saw that in the end of the Marvels

[00:33:41] where they broke through to the next nearest universe and it was the X-Men you know

[00:33:49] beast Kelsey Gamers and right so but some of them will maybe but we know some of them well

[00:33:55] because of that absolutely absolutely but I so they won't enter the I think they'll bring back things like

[00:34:02] like characters like storm and because they to do secret wars I mean in finitual you got every

[00:34:08] universe every superhero on the MCU in the end in an end game don't I mean yeah so somehow they've

[00:34:16] got to get bigger than that so now that I have every MCU superhero plus the other universe is

[00:34:22] superheroes and you know so it just gets up another notch yeah and I'm so curious yeah because

[00:34:32] clearly they're working on bringing the X-Men to the MCU that's what you're saying and we don't

[00:34:39] know exactly how they how they how they do that how many of the existing actors will do it how many

[00:34:44] roles will be recast what characters or how they'll bring them in and in this movie dead pull

[00:34:52] or somebody at one point says can we just be done with all the multiversal stuff it's not working okay

[00:34:58] and so I do sort of wonder because one thing about this is gonna get super even geeky

[00:35:06] here than we already are but there was the ultimate universe in Marvel Comics which was like

[00:35:11] an alternate Marvel universe and that's where Miles Morales Spider-Man came from who's

[00:35:16] I think have black half Puerto Rican Spider-Man and in Star of the into the Spider-Verse movies

[00:35:22] and then he they ended up destroying that whole universe but just bringing Miles Morales over to

[00:35:28] main one so now he exists in the same universe as Peter Parker they're two Spider-Man together

[00:35:33] but he has this weird it's so weird to me that this three-level character has this weird

[00:35:38] backstory where yeah I used to be from another universe they got destroyed it doesn't fit you know

[00:35:42] and so I kind of wonder with the X-Men do they really want to do a similar thing like that

[00:35:47] where all these mutants came from some other universe or will they find but I don't know how

[00:35:51] else they're gonna I don't think I'm not I'm not I'm trying to imply that they will

[00:35:58] introduce X-Men to the MCU via the fox otherwise I think everything's gonna reboot after

[00:36:07] secret wars okay that's how we're gonna get a new Iron Man that's how we're gonna get a new

[00:36:13] Captain America and we're gonna get X-Men like almost like a Christ's son infinite Earth

[00:36:19] correct correct and people the audience will be familiar with mutants at that point because of

[00:36:26] the between now and secret wars you know the doomsday storyline this the secret wars movie

[00:36:33] this movie you know there will be there'll be no need to try and explain who or what they are

[00:36:40] you know there was this never always been there correct but there'll be we cast it at all

[00:36:46] new characters and I think that will be the next phase this has been the multi-verse phase you had

[00:36:52] the Thanos and the gemstones you think they'll recast all the Marvel characters too not all but I

[00:37:00] think a lot I mean I think I think Captain America will be new I think Iron Man will be new

[00:37:06] I think there's a possibility Thor will stay a Thor Chris Houndsworth

[00:37:12] wants to do every just keep doing it forever and I think we're gonna get a lot more of Wolverine

[00:37:17] between now and through secret wars but I think then we'll get a new Wolverine okay

[00:37:22] we get a new professor at X will get all you know all of those characters that's that's my my guess

[00:37:28] if they do that well then I think that's the best way to do it yeah you know I hope you're right

[00:37:36] we'll see

[00:37:38] usually for long people don't I think everyone I I don't ever know how much MCU knowledge people have

[00:37:45] I presume a lot but just to make sure secret wars that Kirk's talking about is we know there's

[00:37:51] two Avengers movies coming up when is Avengers doomsday starring Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom

[00:37:56] and then the one after that which I think comes out the next year is Avengers Secret Wars and

[00:38:01] that's named after a couple of different comic series that just have these huge stories where

[00:38:05] universe collide right well and also they're both being done by the Russo brothers so the my

[00:38:12] and based on the secret war story line it makes sense that it would take two films to do

[00:38:18] and so you know I think I think this will be this generations are not generations but this

[00:38:25] phases infinity war and endgame I hope it's good I'm excited my second my second point was the

[00:38:34] action scenes just in general um I just you know I thought that they were epic um I especially loved

[00:38:41] the the blending of these two characters fighting styles um I mean Logan's get this brutal

[00:38:48] animalistic combat paired with Deadpool's chaotic and unpredictable moves I think it's visually

[00:38:55] just was really engaging um and just so much fun to watch you know I especially felt this in the

[00:39:00] mini van fight which was yeah a regular never seen a fight close gore's such a close quarter

[00:39:07] exactly except maybe the first Deadpool movie where it falls into the SUV and it's fighting the

[00:39:13] guys just very similar to that I guess but but this was just on a whole not their level and

[00:39:17] I loved how they implied the length of time for how long they fought they kept cutting you know

[00:39:24] and then playing that time was moving and then at the end it's like it's dark out and

[00:39:28] then they're coming into the back of the the the van and their all just basically exhausted which

[00:39:33] makes sense because the two of them have such incredible um healing factors that essentially

[00:39:40] they could fight until they just until they just drop until they just both exhausted which is what

[00:39:46] it came to just I was thinking this is a buddy comedy right and uh and it's a great pairing

[00:39:54] of characters the gruff grumpy Wolverine in the smart ass goofy Deadpool,

[00:40:00] Adam all the time and um but the thing that's really fun about it is it's also this

[00:40:07] gory rated our superhero movie and if either one of these guys had been paired with

[00:40:12] anyone else who had the same personality but didn't have the healing factor the other they would just

[00:40:17] be dead right the reason why they can stay a buddy movie that lasted the whole movie is because

[00:40:23] neither one can kill each other no matter how many times they stab or shoot each other right

[00:40:27] so it's kind of funny to think about but just to see like the it wasn't just like two

[00:40:33] kung fu guys fighting each other you know what I mean it was oh yeah absolutely you've got Wolverine

[00:40:38] getting down on all fours and charging him like a freaking wolf you know what I mean um and then

[00:40:45] you know you've got Deadpool with his you know twisting arms and broken limbs that he uses to his weapons

[00:40:51] yeah just and they know I think it's I don't know maybe it's the best superhero fighting

[00:40:58] we've ever seen it's pretty damn close you know the way they staged it I mean yeah you're absolutely

[00:41:04] right to I mean I think there's some there's been pay attention to this there's been some

[00:41:08] Captain America fight scenes like yeah winter soldier but again just it's wonderful for their own

[00:41:15] yeah yeah the spider-man fight with Green Island let's just they really wanted to just give it

[00:41:22] give us I mean Deadpool says alright let's give the people what they came for get your special

[00:41:27] sock out nerds that's gonna get good so they wanted to deliver not not to give away too much

[00:41:39] private information but what when who uses a sock yeah I don't know I've heard to Howard Stern

[00:41:49] I think he uses a sock oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god

[00:41:56] alright you're turned okay let's see um so I just kind of made a list of a bunch of the

[00:42:03] meta stuff you know meta basically means something refers to itself or or I think it's when

[00:42:11] something kind of steps outside of its own context and shows that it's aware of it so right for Deadpool

[00:42:17] that means talking to the audience and and in the comics he always knows he's in the comic book that's

[00:42:23] where that came from and so um I just made a list of random things when Deadpool mentions Disney

[00:42:31] buying Fox right off the bat he says Marvel's so stupid just funny we're talking about Wolverine

[00:42:42] and Deadpool teaming up he says can you imagine the fun the receipts yeah I turned out to be true

[00:42:49] I think you're making an excellent point because the part of the success of it was because

[00:42:55] rather than shy away from that kind of stuff which people I think people probably assumed you know

[00:43:02] they'd be dirty he'd be gross he'd be this in that but that they wouldn't you know they would

[00:43:07] vira away from anything directly confrontation with Disney and instead they just leaned into at

[00:43:13] 100% yeah and it worked so far like there was one part where he winked at the camera

[00:43:22] oh here it is so the TV shows up at the birthday party with their batons you know fighting

[00:43:28] batons and he goes whoa whoa whoa pegging isn't new for me friend though but it is for Disney

[00:43:34] and then wings with the camera that's pretty hardcore um let's see what else I got here uh

[00:43:42] he's talking with happy hogan and says you know trying to get to be a divender and he said I was

[00:43:47] gonna meet the big guy meaning Iron Man and he goes oh he doesn't do this kind of thing anymore

[00:43:52] Deadpool says camios no meetings and um I read that they'd asked Robert down he's just to do this but

[00:44:00] but maybe he didn't because he's already said to play doctor do him I don't know right yeah

[00:44:06] I read that too he tells happy he was part of x-force and says they all perished and he goes how when

[00:44:13] he goes gravity but honestly they're in test well especially cable she wonder if that's true

[00:44:20] yeah well the whole thing with blind owl wanting to start coke and he goes cocaine's the

[00:44:25] one thing FIGY said is off limits yeah the part where the TVA is asking for his help and

[00:44:34] he thinks he's going to join the MCU and he hold on a second goes over and grabs the camera

[00:44:40] I am marvel Jesus oh my god that was the best suck at fox I'm going to Disneyland and he had

[00:44:46] butts at the camera cracks the screen oh fantastic and there's the big giant half buried 20th

[00:44:52] century fox logo which is a meta thing in itself and he says rest in peace fox I just got a few more

[00:44:59] uh he the whole thing about he introduces will bring to nice pool he says this is Logan he's usually

[00:45:07] shirtless but he's let himself go since the divorce which is like oh my god because I looked at

[00:45:13] I didn't know if he just got divorced after like 30 years of marriage and then you wonder if

[00:45:19] that's true but later Hugh Jackman's shirt flies off and he's all ripped and like a prayer is playing

[00:45:26] and then at the end when everyone thinks Wolverine and Deadpool are dead they come out and

[00:45:31] he's shirtless and all cut and everyone's drooling and Deadpool says all right put your greasy

[00:45:36] tips away you preening slut but Deadpool says there's 206 bones in the human body 207 if I'm

[00:45:47] watching gossip girl which starts right adults wife Blake lively and then yeah they'll I already

[00:45:53] mentioned the multiverse one that's all I'm sure there was way way more than that oh there's

[00:45:57] Zillion there's bazillion really fun my favorite was when he went over to the he said hold on

[00:46:03] and he went over to the camera that one it's just the best I love it at the end of what's

[00:46:09] the second movie you know I think was the first movie where he came out he was in Ferris Bueller's house

[00:46:14] with his robot right so you're still here go yeah some of the ones in when he's meeting the the

[00:46:22] rebels and their base and he's trying to understand gambit and that was a pretty funny too

[00:46:30] he's like who was your dial-like coach the minions I can get any of that

[00:46:41] that was very funny and then there was some also some meta jokes that he always

[00:46:48] pokes fun in himself too which I think is great like the green lantern joke from them too but

[00:46:53] in this one he says to blade Wesley Snipes he says something like weren't you retired

[00:47:05] he goes retarded and she had that's not no no no no no no no you didn't something about

[00:47:13] you don't you didn't like me or you don't like me because I never did and they had a falling out

[00:47:19] when they were together in the past and supposedly that was a big deal but that they

[00:47:24] have made peace and everything else but yeah but it was like you know he just they this let's

[00:47:30] just put it in there you know I mean everybody knows about it it's funny I was surprised to see

[00:47:35] Wesley Snipes I haven't seen anything with him in it in as far as I can remember

[00:47:40] I I'm gonna guess that like Wolverine because there haven't so much trouble getting the

[00:47:47] blade fell off the ground and it's taking so long I know they said next year but I don't think

[00:47:53] that's gonna happen they don't even have a director yet again but I think he will be the blade

[00:48:02] up through secret wars and then we'll get hopefully the Hirsch Marsha Lee blade when we get

[00:48:09] I think was it Ryan Reynolds or what someone involved with this movie said oh yeah I would like to

[00:48:15] do more Wesley Snipes blade movies and yeah he wants to get a movie before I look at you

[00:48:21] well but I think he'll be in I think he'll be in either dude stay or or secret wars and they were

[00:48:27] same thing too with the gambit yeah and they could just hide it at the end with the the aftercredit

[00:48:34] piece because you get there was one that was cut but you can see it now he Reynolds has put it out

[00:48:41] and it's him walking away from the fight and he turns and lighting up in his eye is one of the

[00:48:49] portal windows you know so yeah I've implied that they went and got him along with the others

[00:48:55] I chanting Tatum when I heard he wanted or he was working on a gambit movie I was pretty skeptical

[00:49:03] about him and he's a gambit and seeing him play it it was better than I thought it was going to be

[00:49:10] and it was really fun I still I don't know if I think he's the best for it still but I did love

[00:49:16] the way they did gambit as far as his cards and his moves and the way he would fan about and they were

[00:49:21] all glowing with energy and stuff I just thought that was all badass yeah I agree I thought the

[00:49:26] costume that they were more literal to the comic yeah pretty much anything and it kind of

[00:49:32] bit much yeah it didn't work so much for me but but I agree the powers and the cards were

[00:49:40] such a weird power set in order to be used yeah the cards always was like kind of laughed at it

[00:49:47] in the comics but yeah but it made it cool yeah he's like what do you do I made the cards go boom

[00:49:55] and even though I laughed about him whispering at or you know you're not being able to understand him

[00:50:00] there was a critical whole part of me that's like well why can we understand him most of the

[00:50:04] time except sometimes it's all garbled right whatever it's fun it's own fun yeah I mean since you're

[00:50:13] talking about it I've talked more about the cameo's I loved all the cameo is of course

[00:50:18] Johnny Stormman as we're talking about Janet eating his gambit but and blade but you know my favorite

[00:50:24] hands down was the X-23 oh cool I just think that deafening he knew yeah deafening I just

[00:50:32] think that the the Logan movie was so so amazing I we re-watched that movie about every six months

[00:50:41] and and the core of it was the amazing bond between her and Logan and in that movie and it was just

[00:50:48] so powerful and I just thought it was a great fan service to put them back together and to have her

[00:50:56] back in it you know I just yeah that was really good and it it was I think a challenge

[00:51:06] maybe I'm not maybe not but I hope to have a really good because it's dead pull and Wolverine right

[00:51:14] and I think it's more of a dead pull movie it's the tone of a dead pull movie and Wolverine

[00:51:19] felt a little bit less awaited I wouldn't go so far as to say supporting character but I feel like

[00:51:25] the spine of it is dead pull but they did give Wolverine his arc about him having been gone from

[00:51:32] the expansion when humans came and killed all the X-Men and then he came back and was so upset that

[00:51:38] he just started killing randomly and seemed like and then he felt horrible about it and so that moment

[00:51:45] they did well to have him go off with her away from dead pull for a minute so you could forget

[00:51:51] about the goofiness and just have a nice like Wolverine movie style heartfelt moment and I

[00:51:57] thought it worked really well between the two of them. I disagree with you that the core I felt

[00:52:02] like he his story really was the core of the movie. Oh my pin yeah that I felt like it really kind

[00:52:08] hinged on that and I loved that you know I thought that dead pull story was

[00:52:16] was cool I mean it was good it was a little bit of development for him from being only concerned with

[00:52:23] saving you know his love or the people he loves for him to be with. He had to get to a point

[00:52:31] where he needed it versus the correct and what he got to was I need to do it for them not for me.

[00:52:37] Yeah you know what I mean and that's what he said it's him. Right and it was the same thing with

[00:52:43] Wolverine but I just thought that you know the whole movie kind of hinged on him evolving from being

[00:52:49] the worst Wolverine in all the universes to be the best and to me that was the backporn of

[00:52:56] the movie. But what I liked about like so whether it doesn't really matter which one of

[00:53:05] equally weighted but I liked that both of their arcs finished together because they had to be together

[00:53:11] because each one of them wanted to sacrifice himself. Yeah they ended up needing to do it together

[00:53:18] and it it solved both of their problems. Yeah so that was just a really nice elegant. Yeah

[00:53:23] I like him with his all of it I agree and the only weak part for me with the Wolverine story was

[00:53:31] they didn't I felt like the the chain of events that that made him become the worst Wolverine in

[00:53:39] history. One wasn't explained well enough and two wasn't maybe it's because it wasn't

[00:53:47] explained well enough but it also just it wasn't dramatic enough to to warrant the level of

[00:53:53] of you know failure that he was supposed to be experiencing guilty and shameful. He seemed

[00:53:59] well first of all what are the human why did they say humans come back and kill what humans

[00:54:06] come and kill the X-Men? None that makes no sense if they came with sentinals sentinals

[00:54:14] then that's a different story but they didn't say that I don't know what I didn't say that

[00:54:18] but it was like what and then I guess the implication is that he then went and killed just humans

[00:54:25] periods when just when nuts and people right which which is pretty horrible but they

[00:54:34] it's very horrible but it's okay it's not too great yeah but you can imagine a lot worse

[00:54:40] but I thought that they missed an opportunity because in in the famous book Old Man Logan

[00:54:46] which is what the Logan movie was loosely very loosely based on.

[00:54:54] Can you are you familiar with that book? Yeah it's Mark Millar right I think I read it I can't remember

[00:55:02] though. What happens is is that the superheroes the super villains get together and start to

[00:55:10] coordinate their efforts as opposed to all kind of individual he continuing to have their own

[00:55:16] because they each get in the each fail whenever they try to do things by themselves so they kind of

[00:55:22] organize a little bit and start working together and their mysterious goes to the X-Men

[00:55:28] Anchin and creates an illusion that's so real for Wolverine that all these villains

[00:55:38] are in the mansion trying to attack him and he proceeds to kill every one of the villains

[00:55:44] and then then he's really realizes that it was an illusion and that he actually killed all the

[00:55:50] X-Men. Oh wow and I mean maybe they felt that was just too dark to go but I thought that's where

[00:55:56] they were going to go when they were showing yeah trailers and stuff all the tombstones

[00:56:03] and all this stuff but right and some me kind of weakened his story line to have it just be that

[00:56:10] humans came and killed all the X-Men. Like hey if they killed all of the X-Men fine go kill it

[00:56:15] once you can get it. Yeah I mean it's not good but especially yeah I could see because I

[00:56:20] forgot in that story so if you had that story in your mind and thought that's what it was going to

[00:56:23] be and then it didn't turn out to be as bad as that then it's like oh well there's got to be a

[00:56:27] worst Wolverine and I think even they might have shown old men Logan right he was one of the variants

[00:56:32] potential yeah yeah and it was much more accurate to the comic he's sitting on a

[00:56:38] porch and he's got like a western hat on and he's the worst Wolverine. Although you know actually

[00:56:46] I would say thinking about a little bit more if he did it without knowing he was doing it maybe

[00:56:51] that's not as bad as going out and killing innocent people knowing that's what he's doing.

[00:56:57] Yeah but the guilt you would carry could tear you apart you know I mean

[00:57:02] plus they were much more accurate in the way that he looked in that clip as well as when he walks

[00:57:08] up to him he pulls out a shotgun I think and shoots him when Deadpool walks up to him.

[00:57:14] He has opposed to the claws and that's because in the book he from that day forward he refuses

[00:57:20] to pull his claws out nice detail which they hint to in the scene in the bar when he can't get

[00:57:27] the claws to come out they make a funny joke about it but yeah but that was a good idea.

[00:57:32] But that hat to that yeah I think that was maybe that was just about him being drunk though.

[00:57:40] Yeah but I think it was key to give the claws or whatever.

[00:57:42] This key to the claw. It happens to Wolverines over 40.

[00:57:49] It's a medication for that. There you go.

[00:57:53] Can I do my cameo point? Yeah go for it.

[00:57:56] Okay so here's the cameo's good guys John Fabro as Hogan Chris Evans.

[00:58:04] He was human torch in the 2005 fantastic form of the Ensequal and I loved the way they

[00:58:09] introduced him in his robe and you think it's Captain America Deadpool says dear God it's him

[00:58:16] the superhero equivalent to comfort food or molly.

[00:58:21] And then it's a fake out he's gonna say it he's gonna say it Avengers and he goes

[00:58:27] flame on what that totally got me I didn't know that was gonna happen.

[00:58:32] That's so good. Well they did a great job too because they gave him the beard

[00:58:37] which is what he had when he was in between yeah in between Avengers infinity and endgame

[00:58:45] and also they they covered him up so you couldn't see the uniform. Yeah.

[00:58:50] Now and he jumps down and does like a superhero landing which is not a Johnny Storm does stuff.

[00:58:58] And when he's saying uh he says you see anyone running dick for brains and Deadpool kind of

[00:59:04] cocks his head like he doesn't usually talk that way. Yeah like what's that? That was great

[00:59:09] and I always thought like Chris Evans you know when I found out he was going to be Captain

[00:59:14] America. I'm like the human torch guy who's the smart ally like that's not gonna work and then

[00:59:18] he knocked it out of the park so it's fun to seem go back to that character.

[00:59:22] My understanding from what I've heard is of a whatever ed online is that he is the requirement

[00:59:28] for him to come on board and do the cameo was that um he got to do the

[00:59:35] sale the swearing that's you know at the end at the end and that clip in the post credit and

[00:59:42] that they couldn't really they couldn't edit that out. I couldn't. Yes I read that too. I love that

[00:59:49] he's like otherwise I'm not gonna be in it. Yeah I mean oh my god. That's so much fun.

[00:59:55] Yeah I think actors they want to they don't want to get tight cast so right. You know he wanted to

[01:00:01] something else on some other side. Well he also spent that money every year as it marvel you know

[01:00:06] not being able to curse. Oh you know I mean he was like yeah so we have Jennifer Gardner

[01:00:14] Electro from 2003 Ben Affleck Daredevil movie and then her Electro movie after that.

[01:00:21] Wesley Snipes of course from Blade 1998 blade and it's two sequels chaining Tatum as Gambit

[01:00:27] which had a movie in development that never happened. Daphne Keene is Laura Kini slash X-23 from

[01:00:34] Logan in 2017 and one meme Musaku is Hunter B15 from the Loki series. Those are the heroes.

[01:00:43] Villains Tyler Maine Saber tooth he was Saber tooth in the original X-Men movie.

[01:00:49] Ray Park as Toad who he was also Darth Maul. Aaron Stanford as Pyro

[01:00:56] he played Pyro in the last stand X-Men last stand. Yeah Deneia Ramirez as Calisto from last

[01:01:04] stand Ali off is this CG void monster that was in Loki. Jason Fleming as as as El the red teleporting

[01:01:14] guy he was an X-Men first class Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut who was in the last stand and dead pulled

[01:01:20] to those two actors by the way are different from the ones that portrayed those characters in the

[01:01:25] original movies. Yeah they switched Kelly who as Lady Death Strike from X2 I read Olivia Mun as

[01:01:36] Siloc she was I didn't see her yeah. No it's a different they did have Siloc but she was a different

[01:01:43] actor. Okay Kevin Nash as the Russian who was in the 2004 Punisher movie the Stripes shirt guy

[01:01:52] there were vehicles and objects cap shield Tony Stark's art reactor the fantastic car

[01:01:58] the Milano the Peter Quills ship and Guardians Galaxy part of Dr. Stranger's cloak

[01:02:06] Antman's giant corpse as guards castle shield helicator carrier and the giant half-barried 20th

[01:02:13] century fox logo among other things oh yeah there was a million yeah I'm I'm gonna go through

[01:02:18] all the dead pull variants but just the ones with interesting actors Blakely played Lady Pool

[01:02:24] Matthew McConaughey as cowboy dead pull Nathan Feliene as head pull the floating skull head

[01:02:33] which seemed like something out of evil dead to me but I don't know if that was on purpose

[01:02:39] shirts in the comics. Oh yeah it's from the actual the Marvel zombie storyline. Okay yeah

[01:02:46] comes back over to our universe and then the carry him around and then Wolverine variants Henry

[01:02:53] Cavalle played one of the Wolverine variants I didn't realize that was him until he read it later.

[01:02:59] Yeah yeah the one in the motorcycle the one with the ways working on the Harley Davidson that's right

[01:03:04] my favorite was the one in the brown and yellow Johnburn Wolverine suit. Yeah I wish they had had

[01:03:12] no but they wanted to have a big moment with the mask later. Yeah yeah but yeah and all of the

[01:03:21] all of the ones he goes to visit none of them have a mask today. No yeah because I think they

[01:03:27] wanted to have that big bullet and it was a big moment for geeky. Yeah yeah yes so cool.

[01:03:32] I don't know if people care that much but he had the yellow and blue costume when he was first

[01:03:37] introduced or a version of it and then few years into the X men Johnburn changed it to this

[01:03:44] more Wolverine looking brown and yellow and that's when I first started reading X men comics back

[01:03:49] in the early 80s he had that for several years and then he went back to the yellow blue later.

[01:03:56] There was a short Wolverine which I think is just a nod to the fact that he's only five foot three

[01:04:01] in the comics. A lot of people probably don't know that there was patch which is from this

[01:04:08] he was an undercover mission and mad rapport. Right when he was strapped to the X like

[01:04:16] Jesus that's from a story where the revers tortured him and strung him up. And it's actually

[01:04:21] a really production of the cover from that comic. Yeah it's such a great cover. Almost exactly.

[01:04:26] Yeah I guess there was an age of apocalypse Wolverine in there where he has a missing hand.

[01:04:34] And then he's got a long hair and a black suit. Yeah it was in an alley.

[01:04:39] And at least one of those he was smoking a cigar and that just reminded me how he used to smoke

[01:04:45] cigars all the time in the comics but then John saw it I made this rule that you can't none of my

[01:04:49] heroes can smoke and they've had that ever since he'd ever seen. It was actually the Henry Caval version

[01:04:55] was okay. Yeah I mean there might have been others but that one for sure. And I read a story where

[01:05:00] he they were shooting that scene and like all day long and he had to be used smoking the cigar all

[01:05:05] they long at the rest of the night he was sick as a dog. Yeah funny. For you got a suffer for your art.

[01:05:14] And then the last thing the sort of related is Gambit was talking about how some had died

[01:05:20] Punisher quick silver dare devil and then electors says that's fine because that's been

[01:05:26] affect but I was sadist about quick silver not being in it because he's a favorite of mine

[01:05:32] from the X man movies. Yeah mine too Evan what's his name he's really good Peter's Evan Peter's

[01:05:40] although I prefer I prefer character acting wise and look and fetal of the MCU version that was in

[01:05:51] Age of Ultron but yeah I think the special effects that they did for the fox

[01:05:58] quick silver were fantastic. Those just two scenes the hour. Yeah so that made me want more.

[01:06:04] Yeah absolutely. All right you got any other points I got I think one more and then some notes.

[01:06:10] I got a couple more I'll try and I'll try and buzz through him real quick.

[01:06:15] I think Matthew McFaden's Paradox and Emma Corin's Cassandra. No over we're just they were

[01:06:21] ex-embeleons. So good so good. And then you know her having to actually insert her fingers into your

[01:06:26] head in order for the user powers so brutal. So you'll be and I all love I loved out not only

[01:06:32] insert your fingers but she would sort of be off a few feet away and then the camera would

[01:06:37] pan so you just see the person and then you see her fingers come out of their forehead or whatever

[01:06:42] and then she creeps up like she's behind them somehow it was just so well done.

[01:06:48] Was it as creepy as hell? But it also really helps sell the scene the twist at the end where they get her

[01:06:57] you know and she's in his head and she's telling him you know this that you know I can do

[01:07:03] this for you I can have even and he turns to her and it's like you know I got you.

[01:07:09] And then the she's got that helmet on but I didn't understand in that scene why she was trying

[01:07:15] what why she was trying to talk him into something. Oh I think she wanted him to join her

[01:07:22] I think he she joined the crew. Yeah to basically turn to her side you know I'll help you

[01:07:29] I'll help you deal with all of this pain and suffering you know by by you know protecting you from it

[01:07:35] because I'll be able to shut it down mentally you know what I mean and you know he was just doing

[01:07:41] it as a toy to get her that's what that was cool. Let's see she was actually since we're talking

[01:07:48] about it she was one of my other points so let me just talk about her a little bit yeah go ahead

[01:07:52] and go on I it's Emma Coran and yeah that in a movie where there was a lot of really cool stuff

[01:08:01] her character released it out to me and one reason is why is because I love the Grant Morrison

[01:08:06] run of X-Men comics back in the early 2000s and that's where she was introduced as just like in

[01:08:13] the movie you know professor X's twin who tried to strangling with the umbilical cord in the womb

[01:08:20] and uh Bruce and she was the her vibe she had this intense she projected authority and

[01:08:27] menace and like superiority and she had this kind of a Hannibal lecture vibe where you feel like oh get away

[01:08:34] I don't want you getting into my brain you know and and I also thought uh she was kind of sexy honestly

[01:08:42] I don't know what that says about me in a skinny bald kind of way yeah and and speaking

[01:08:46] about it was great entrance because they show her from behind and you think it's professor X yeah that

[01:08:51] was on purpose yet and it's stylish it's so fun and twisted to have her headquarters be a giant

[01:08:57] and man corpse and yeah just that whole thing of uh and then and one more note I had about her

[01:09:03] as after she messes with Deadpool's head and makes him see Vanessa saying he'll never fucking matter

[01:09:09] and then she's like she didn't say that and then he screams out where goddamn is the intimacy coordinator

[01:09:19] so just great villain um I thought it was interesting that we got the establishment of a new

[01:09:26] MC rule which was anchor beings that was brand new in this movie and I think that was I didn't know

[01:09:33] that I didn't know that yeah anchor beings had never been introduced and is any of them see you here

[01:09:39] I've got a I saw somebody put together a really cool little synopsis of the different

[01:09:45] MC rules I wanted to share them with people just to kind of clarify so first we have variant beings

[01:09:53] so if you see yourself and another universal multiverse they are called a variant being

[01:09:59] then you have nexus beings which was introduced by this scarlet witch and multiverse of the madness

[01:10:05] if a person identified their own nexus variant and used the variants powers they are called the nexus

[01:10:11] beings then you have anomaly beings which was introduced in spider verse uh for person

[01:10:17] experiences glitches when they are in another universe they are referred to as anomaly being

[01:10:22] then you've got anchor beings now which is a person naturally stabilizes their universe just by

[01:10:28] being in it when they die their universe starts to fall apart and eventually disappear entirely

[01:10:34] then you've got absolute beings which is a person who has no variants in any other universes

[01:10:42] or any other multiverse or universe they are called absolute beings that would be

[01:10:48] America for era or whatever that's the address yeah works for name but when

[01:10:54] that makes the stars and goes to the series she's able to translate or directly through to different

[01:11:00] alternate universes and then you've got the absolute point which was introduced in the second

[01:11:08] doctor strange or the first I'm not sure it's an event that simply cannot be changed otherwise

[01:11:13] that could lead to the destruction of the entire timeline i think that was also in the

[01:11:20] what if the first season of what if doctor strange storyline then you've got canon of vending

[01:11:26] yep we're Christine car accident the canon events an event that's supposed to be

[01:11:33] habit supposed to happen in every other multiverse it happens to the same person in a different way

[01:11:39] that was introduced in spider verse and then of course in curgeon event which we also got

[01:11:44] from multiverse of manner um madness which is a one two realities collide possibly destroying

[01:11:50] one or both for person carousing or jumping into another multiverse it will lead towards this

[01:11:58] eventual phenomenon of the incursion and destruction so i just thought it was interesting they've

[01:12:04] got a lot of rules that they've established over time some of them are very similar to each other

[01:12:09] and now they've got the anchor beings the the only challenge that I have to the anchor being

[01:12:14] thing i'm not sure again why they feel they had to do that but um so if you think about

[01:12:23] like whatever the anchor being is so soon as whenever they die and the anchor being doesn't live

[01:12:27] longer I mean we'll have a reen does but that's because of his mutation but I assume

[01:12:34] all anchor beings are not so many anchor beings are just normal people i'm guessing that in uh

[01:12:41] in deadpools universe Peter is the anchor being but i'm just guessing that but um it's kind

[01:12:48] of weird because then of course they say it takes thousands of years but um so every universe basically

[01:12:54] has the being in it that when they die the universe ends i don't know that just see yes and what

[01:13:01] about before they were born exactly so they would have to be born at the beginning of the universe

[01:13:05] that i don't know why they're feel they got to come up with all of these all of these rules

[01:13:11] yeah i think honestly the way really it was a metaphor for how big Logan was

[01:13:23] compared to the other characters in the you know in a metal level not in universe but

[01:13:28] as far as how popular a character he was and it was a slight undead pool that he wasn't the anchor

[01:13:35] being and it was Logan instead so that's what that's kind of what that meant like this is the

[01:13:41] character that mattered the most of fox and if he's dead the whole thing is dead you know i mean

[01:13:46] well i think also it it was a part of coming back to the very beginning when we're trying to

[01:13:51] understand the motivations of paradox um it's because Logan died in the Logan movie which was in deadpools

[01:14:03] which is some million like one zero zero zero zero zero zero so that a bunch of other numbers

[01:14:07] i'll remember what it was but that his universe isn't now going to terminate

[01:14:13] yeah and normally that would take thousands of years but paradox decides he wants to try and

[01:14:19] speed that process up to get back towards where they used to be you know later whether the

[01:14:24] trimming trimming is off so um i guess they felt they had to come up with you know a reason for why

[01:14:30] why wades universe wade being deadpool is dying and yeah which also tied somehow to Wolverine

[01:14:40] so i mean i just think it's all a metacomentary on fox dying out and yeah isn't you acquiring fox

[01:14:47] sped that up and you know yeah i think but i'm just saying i'm just speculating why they felt

[01:14:52] they needed to create this additional new rule of an anchor being uh not i mean i mean that just

[01:14:58] specifically so they could have the joke in the deadpool movie well i mean do you think there's

[01:15:05] some other way that's the joke it's more like well yeah i mean you could come up with a million

[01:15:09] reasons why they're you're gonna have that universe is dying but they wanted to tie it to Wolverine

[01:15:14] yeah i mean it's a key plot element for one thing yeah right it's because of Wolverine that's what

[01:15:21] set deadpool like they were like why would deadpool want to team up with Wolverine oh well it's

[01:15:27] because he wants to find a Wolverine to replace the one that is universe so it doesn't die right it's sort

[01:15:32] of i mean i think yeah if we in our natural comic geek brains because i did the same thing

[01:15:38] try to understand what how it all makes sense then we're gonna be like that doesn't quite work but

[01:15:43] for the story if you don't think too hard about it i think it works great yeah i think it's the best

[01:15:50] they could do i guess i don't know maybe they could have come up with something better but

[01:15:53] all right the rest of what i have is um uh my crits more than i have some notes but um

[01:16:01] a couple of quick crits if you don't know for yeah i wish we got more lit dead lady deadpool

[01:16:06] i think she was way underutilized and we should have been able to see like lively without the mask

[01:16:13] i think that's just my opinion um i mean it was you know she could have done that voice over in a

[01:16:19] studio yeah i mean um also not enough vines of by a long shot um one because i have a major

[01:16:28] crush on marina back here yeah yes we did an episode of um my patreon podcast all about

[01:16:36] character crushes and yeah dead up top five list out of all the characters you know ever

[01:16:42] and she was on my list yeah my well her is uh fireflies specifically the character yeah but she

[01:16:50] she was pretty hot in that first deadpool movie too but anyway yeah yeah yeah um so it's his love

[01:16:56] for her that's really the driving force behind behind and melt together i mean it's what keeps

[01:17:00] him from becoming kind of almost like a villain you know and completely nuts um they weigh down

[01:17:07] her role and deadpool too um and then basically it was kind of thrown away in this film i know

[01:17:13] it was interesting because it was all about her why he was doing what he was doing

[01:17:17] yeah she wasn't in it but you know it's the same thing while i was saying about the heroes like

[01:17:22] you want more but there's just so many and they really wanted to focus on the real the

[01:17:27] interplay between Wolverine and deadpool and then the reason for why they're why they were a part

[01:17:32] I thought was really weak i mean it just wasn't it just wasn't really clear what what happened

[01:17:38] you know what i mean i don't know why they didn't feel it they should have been some explanation for

[01:17:43] that i thought um so that that was a crit i had um i wish we got in Laura x 23 in a

[01:17:51] comicic accurate suit in the final battle i think i mentioned that earlier preferably for me the

[01:17:56] black and gray x sports version but even the current yellow and blue would have been cool um

[01:18:02] and then also with regards to her they edited the trailer so that um when she says to him

[01:18:10] when they're sitting at the fire at their camp or whatever you were always the wrong guy which is

[01:18:15] an un-was a incredibly powerful line and then until you weren't which is a killer freaking line

[01:18:23] love it and the film they take that until you weren't part out when she says it

[01:18:29] so they they have it later when he's thinking about you know why he you know wants to sacrifice

[01:18:36] himself and and go over the edge here and it saved the universe um which was kind of cool but for me

[01:18:43] if they had left it in it would have helped much more made the scene where they go pull up to

[01:18:49] fight in the minivan and he pops out of the back as if as if that conversation with her made him

[01:18:56] think about uh i want to step up now and be the the Wolverine that that i you know that i can be

[01:19:03] instead of you know being the wrong will Wolverine something yeah i thought i mean i kind of

[01:19:09] thought that's still what she was saying even though she didn't add that line you know yeah you

[01:19:14] were always the wrong guy you know but i love you anyway with sort of uh implied but i don't know

[01:19:19] yeah i see what you're saying um they also i thought that the ventures you know interview was confusing

[01:19:27] it wasn't clear what universe he was in when he came back where where he was was that

[01:19:33] tied in with the vines of it issue you know because he kind of implies that i need this so i'm

[01:19:37] gonna lose my girlfriend and and i think we as Deadpool fans know how he got there but they didn't

[01:19:44] explain it well at all they didn't explain it at all how why wait this is a big deal we're seeing

[01:19:51] Deadpool the first Deadpool movie after marvel but fox so now he can interact with the other

[01:19:57] MC you character so how is that gonna happen oh he just is right like were the i my first thought was

[01:20:03] wait are they saying that he was now always in the MC you but no he- no he had the just presumy

[01:20:10] used the cable thing yeah because he shows it at one point he lifts his arm up he says oh was it

[01:20:15] you know and he's and you see he needs to hit me over the head without a little bit more right

[01:20:19] yeah and also i'm sorry i mean i think that the happy hogin guy interview was funny

[01:20:26] but um it should have been a real adventure you know i understand why downy or evidence wouldn't

[01:20:32] want to do it but you could have done vision you could have done falcon or nick fury and it could

[01:20:37] have been hilarious or nick fury could have been hilarious exactly i mean i guess it was

[01:20:44] sort of funny that he was talking to the chauffeur but i know what's your superpower parallel

[01:20:52] parking that's good all right what i'm looking through my notes that's it for like

[01:21:00] we pretty much talked about all my notes too so what do you mean look at mine oh i think i think

[01:21:07] we're gonna get Chris Evans and secret wars again but i think he's gonna be Johnny Storm

[01:21:11] and i think instead of cap and i think that then that Johnny Storm won't meet the new actual

[01:21:17] MCU Johnny Storm because the fantastic form will be in secret wars interesting i i just presumed

[01:21:23] that most of these characters it was their swans hung and we wouldn't see them anymore and i

[01:21:28] still kind of think that but you've got me thinking maybe i'm wrong to you right yeah and i

[01:21:32] think that i think they'll all come back because they again they've got a somehow top and game um

[01:21:38] the last thing i would say that this movie for me um another part and the reason it's

[01:21:45] really important and why it was so successful in part and also why i think it's really important

[01:21:50] i think it's pretty clear that team up movies with established characters need to be a staple

[01:21:56] of marital films just like it's a staple in the comics not every film but you know if you're

[01:22:03] gonna put three marital movies out one of them better be a team up movie that year you know what i mean

[01:22:08] you think of the most successful films in the MCU you got civil war all team up no way home

[01:22:14] team up in finit and game team up rag neroch team up and now dead pull and Wolverine team up

[01:22:22] that's what people want to see that's what you know once you get an established character

[01:22:26] you don't want to keep seeing them in the same established environment same team same people

[01:22:30] you want them to interact with the rest of the universe that's what makes marital so awesome

[01:22:35] you know what i mean yeah and and marital team up was a comic from zinny's great that always had

[01:22:41] spider-man teaming up with somebody else so i think if they do a spider-man team up movie

[01:22:46] uh i don't know spider-man to Hulk or whoever that'd be great yeah that was really that that's my

[01:22:54] that's all i got that's great good rundown we loved it yeah

[01:23:13] all right we're back and we got some listener feedback it i i'm actually um really

[01:23:18] pleasantly surprised i had only put up a post about this a day ago and a bunch of people jumped on

[01:23:24] that's really cool ready to talk about it yeah next time um so jack shenady shenaddle

[01:23:31] sorry jack i put your dad the movie scratched my humor it's big time amen to that yeah

[01:23:37] it was super funny that's i mean that's probably my favorite thing about it this is just how funny it is

[01:23:44] David Welts says i really enjoyed it it was a good mix of outrage is humor and deeper moments

[01:23:49] that added a lot to the story ten out of ten you man uh Eric fentanym says looking forward

[01:23:56] to jackman as Wolverine until he's 90 absolutely love the movie the Easter eggs and all the in

[01:24:03] jokes i mean you know he's already what 55 i think jackman the problem with well it's a good

[01:24:14] problem to have but like you got Hugh jackman you got uh the guy plays Jay Jones and jamesson

[01:24:21] can't think of that actor's name right now um Robert Downey Jr's Ironman they're so good that

[01:24:27] they're impossible to follow it feels like you know if they're gonna recast Wolverine at some

[01:24:33] point it's gonna be a hard act to follow yeah and when Carver Holt's house and says loved it it was

[01:24:40] such a fun date night movie the breaking the fourth wall is brilliant these two are my favorite

[01:24:46] bromance ever on screen it also Hugh and Ryan in real life. Mark McBernie says i thought it was really

[01:24:55] good not as better than the first but definitely better than the second uh Cassandra Nova is a

[01:25:01] great villain and Emma Corin did a fantastic job and of course it was great to see some oldies

[01:25:06] turned to the roles they once played yeah she was fantastic it's been a while since i saw the first one

[01:25:12] but um it was i think it was a really tight well done movie and yeah i don't know which one

[01:25:19] i would like better there's very yeah my song put it second to that put that first the first

[01:25:27] movie first yeah he put first movie first then this then the second i think i'm not sure

[01:25:33] yeah i think i'm just that this one first yeah pretty close this would i'd mainly because it's

[01:25:39] this is so much more marvel you know what i mean yeah that the first one was yes it's always yeah

[01:25:45] that's why i loved um both endgame and infinite you were they just felt like that classic marvel

[01:25:53] event yeah the movie so well better than any other movie ever as a comment nerd it's like yeah

[01:26:00] that's the god of hate christopher parent says loved it haven't had a movie get me laughing that

[01:26:06] hard a long time i was fortunate in seeing it the Sunday of opening weekend and how to avoid

[01:26:12] it all spoilers so in blade walked in it gave me literal goose bumps and i may have sworn out

[01:26:18] rather loudly i also found the love letter video and the after credit scene to the fox marvel

[01:26:22] universe rather touching yeah same with me on all that all those i was unspoiled and glad of it

[01:26:28] yeah yeah i agree and it's getting harder and harder in some ways it's harder and harder

[01:26:34] now to not get spoiled but in some ways it's actually also gotten better because people are

[01:26:40] so conscious about it now like any video i watch they'll say okay listen we're gonna talk about this

[01:26:46] it's gonna be a spoiler so if you don't want to hear that you know you want to and people are

[01:26:50] much more respectful about it than they were even just like five ten years ago yeah most people

[01:26:55] yeah most people yeah all right Alex Kruger writes it was the kind of fan service and pandering

[01:27:02] i hope for in a deadpool property i checked last year and deadpool is shockling i checked last year

[01:27:09] and deadpool is shockingly the title character i have the most comics for and the simple fact

[01:27:15] of the matter is i trust him in round Reynolds hands i'm great i mean at this point i don't know who else

[01:27:20] could do it yeah not every superhero movie has to be dark night level in fact i still

[01:27:25] appreciate the charm of Jimi Carey as the ridler and whatever the hell Nicole Kimman was doing

[01:27:30] in batman for making it a mess i think i loved it it makes me it made me squeal with the light

[01:27:39] gas baschock and die with laughter now giving deadpool and spider man and let it be snarky

[01:27:44] androorfield spider and the deadpool spend the whole movie wishing it was Tom Holland to

[01:27:49] use me oh man i buy ticket to that i bought a five and pale tva agents

[01:27:59] yeah i mean in the comics deadpool and spider man have a long running history of teaming

[01:28:06] up and and ragging i show there and it's so funny because because in the comics of course

[01:28:11] and and the movie to some degree spider man is such a quicky snarky you know making jokes all

[01:28:18] time that's what he's known for so then he runs it and he's like he's like mr. proper he's like

[01:28:25] dude you can't say that yeah he's got to keep him in line yeah um when he said

[01:28:36] you're talking about how he trusts him in round Reynolds hands and yeah that's another one

[01:28:41] i didn't even consider like oh yeah how would you recast deadpool because it's like no you can't

[01:28:48] and can't i remember loving uh because when deadpool came out he was just like this mercenary

[01:28:53] and he wasn't that interesting how did great costume but um eventually writer started writing

[01:28:59] him doing metacomentary you know self-awareness of being in comic and quipping in jokes and then

[01:29:05] he became a great character and i and funny you know there's some really good funny writers like

[01:29:10] okay Lee in comics right but um i thought no you can't do that on screen i i don't think it would just

[01:29:17] be corny and then and then uh Ryan Reynolds came along and nailed it and like yeah it has to actually

[01:29:22] be funny to work and absolutely absolutely okay mark quickman says i thought it was a great deadpool

[01:29:29] movie it had ties to the MC movies and the Disney Plus shows which makes sense i loved all the

[01:29:40] nod to fox with their marvelly universe that was a plus for me we wouldn't have marvell without

[01:29:45] that to begin with i love that it brought in a character that was only in a short comics run

[01:29:51] to be the villain Cassandra Nova was someone the regular viewers wouldn't know but made a huge

[01:29:56] impact on the movie she's underrated in marvell comics based on her character i think this lost

[01:30:01] a few of the viewers what people didn't like her i didn't know that but i think everyone or maybe

[01:30:06] just saying they didn't know her i i think everyone loved it due to the deadpool and Wolverine being

[01:30:10] together he jackman and Ryan Reynolds were the stars and that was what people wanted to see in

[01:30:15] this movie they were the focus i love the Disney and Fige jokes they showed that Reynolds had a

[01:30:21] strangle hold on the character of deadpool as well as jackman being Wolverine 90 years a great movie

[01:30:27] overall fun entertaining it gave us moments of comic book Easter eggs that comic creators love but

[01:30:33] overall entertaining excellent excellent mar Daniel dimont just as i'm so glad you're covering this

[01:30:41] i've seen it five times holy shit let's go Daniel once in three d i can't even imagine

[01:30:50] that opening sequence in three d he wants me to dunking i mean i loved it so much agent paradox is

[01:30:57] perfectly ridiculous as an aspiring villain the mercy killer uh Manhattan McFaden killed that role

[01:31:03] amacorn was also fantastic as Cassandra Nova and brought an intense nonchalance to the role

[01:31:09] angry if that makes any sense it does yes i dored all the meta references in cameo is particularly

[01:31:15] gambit and Laura Logan is one of my very favorite movies so having her back was such a treat totally agree

[01:31:22] the opening sequence had had me watching between my fingers in my hand over my face the first time

[01:31:28] shot at the irreverence but in the best way possible some wished we had seen the other

[01:31:33] xman but the fact that they weren't in the void may bode well for the characters going forward

[01:31:38] we'll see interesting i did find a funny that there are apparently multitudes of deadpools

[01:31:44] in the honest it in the void just like lokeys yeah we did not see any lokeys in this film yeah

[01:31:49] i think that was that's an excellent point Daniel i i think that was a miss on this this was

[01:31:56] their first chance since the end of a lokey series to make a comment or demonstrate or anything like

[01:32:05] that lokey's new control over the multiverse and they didn't do anything with it and uh i i thought

[01:32:15] that was uh that's a miss opportunity uh the only explanation i've heard is that the void is such an

[01:32:20] endless expanse that it's easy not to run into everyone but they made it seem smaller than that

[01:32:26] or so i loved Logan and Wade uh enjoyed the deadpool got to really lean into the humor because he had

[01:32:33] Logan there to balance him out the small-scale comedy buddy yeah yeah yeah cop buddy cop buddy

[01:32:40] happened castella over whatever 48 hours the wall was way back there the scene with Wolverine

[01:32:45] walking across in front of the deadpool corpse with dog tool cracks me up every time he died from

[01:32:51] murder he dumped Logan because it's all that body is like oh i guess you don't regenerate

[01:33:01] seeing blade was a classy touch and i always appreciate Jennifer Carter i can't wait to see it for

[01:33:07] six time you can see the love to speak of that do you have any have you read anything about when it's

[01:33:12] going to stream or when it's going to be on blue right now so one said usually it's 90 days after

[01:33:19] film which would put it at the end of October something like that but we don't know okay that would

[01:33:23] be awesome maybe like for the holidays yeah um i can't wait to see it in the six time you can

[01:33:30] see the move the love for these characters coming from Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds i could

[01:33:35] probably ramble about this movie forever but i'll stop here can't wait to hear what you guys have to say

[01:33:41] i bet Danielle probably knows a lot some of the details that we weren't we were fuzzy on

[01:33:47] oh my god of course please correct us Daniel correct this and after your 7th or 8th time

[01:33:52] all right that is our show episode 77 thanks so much for listening everybody thank you Kirk

[01:34:02] i'm so glad you wanted to cover this spinole time since we got the podcast together so yeah it's been great

[01:34:07] thank you so much next episode agatha all along season one episode one premier's Wednesday

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