Run For Your Lives Podcast Episode 164: The Belko Experiment

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome to the show. I'm Daphne. And I'm Pake. And this is the Run For Your Lives Podcast. This week we will be talking about the horror film The Belko Experiment directed

[00:00:48] by Greg McLean and released March 17th, 2017. Oh, I remember when this one came out. I was so excited to go see it because I thought, it's a cross between office space. We're

[00:01:01] not going to do that. It's fine. It is okay. But then the other one that I was considering, I don't think Godzilla minus one, which we absolutely will do. I just don't think

[00:01:12] it's going to be available to watch before the Oscars or right away. But we will get to it when it is there because it was an incredible movie and we're definitely going to cover it. But the

[00:01:24] other one that is available that might fit is the creator. It is more sci-fi action drama, which I mean, we've touched with that before. We've done Battle Los Angeles, but those were aliens. The creator is AI. Same with like Tomorrow War. It's kind of the same

[00:01:45] thing. It's a war movie action thing, sci-fi. But again, it's aliens and time travel and things like that. And this is just like AI that people have created. And then they evolved a mind of

[00:01:58] their own and kind of became a more civilisation. Sorry to spoil the tiniest little bit about the creator for you. But so that's kind of, so it kind of fits, but also I don't know. So I'm still

[00:02:10] considering doing it, but we're taking a little break from Oscar stuff to do this this week. But if you guys want to hear our coverage of the creator, you don't have to twist my arm too hard.

[00:02:20] I'm totally down to watch it again and cover it because I did really enjoy that film. So let us know. But for now, Oscar coverage, take a little break. We're doing Belko because

[00:02:30] it's a quick one. It's a fun one. It's one of Daphne's absolute favourite movies. I really enjoy it too. So yeah, it's a fun episode for us to kind of do after the last two Oscar movies being a little heavier conversations in different ways. But yeah.

[00:02:47] Yeah, they were. But they were great conversations. I feel really proud of those two episodes because I think we handled all of the nuances really well. And I just really enjoyed our conversations about the films and everything inclusive within it. So I'm glad though to get

[00:03:11] a break and get a chance to do this one, because I've wanted to do it for a long time. And I just hadn't, you know, there were other films on the horizon for us. So I didn't, it didn't come

[00:03:28] into my head until this week when we were thinking, okay, what movie should we do? And I just was feeling it this week because it's one that I know really well. It's like snakes on a plane,

[00:03:40] not because the movie is actually like snakes on a plane. It's like that in that it's something that I'll have on in the background sometimes if I'm trying to get something done

[00:03:51] because then it because I don't have to pay attention to it. I know what's going on in it. And it doesn't really distract me. And I even debated, do I need to watch it again? Or am

[00:04:03] I good to talk about it? Because I feel like I already know it. So yeah, it's part of this group of office type movies where things go horribly wrong. Like we had mayhem that we

[00:04:19] covered. There's another one I think it's called office uprising, that is camp more campy kind of like mayhem that we could do later. And then there's this one which is much more serious

[00:04:36] in nature. But I'm glad that we're doing this one. It's one that I've wanted to do for a while. So it'll be fun to get to talk about it. For sure. So we'll do that, how we always do,

[00:04:49] starting with some production notes. So it was filmed in Bogota, Colombia. It was written by James Gunn and based on a dream that he had of an office building with employees being instructed to kill each other. That's quite a dream. He started writing it back in 2007.

[00:05:10] But when the film was actually greenlit, the timing was off. And so Gunn turned it down. Then years later he was contacted to see if he was still interested in doing it. But he didn't have the time to direct it himself because he was working on this other

[00:05:29] little known film that you may have heard of called Guardians of the Galaxy. It had a budget of $5 million and grossed $11.1 million at the box office. It's 89 minutes long, which makes it easily consumable. Paik, give us a synopsis. And a twisted social experiment. 80 Americans are locked

[00:05:50] in their high-rise corporate office in Bogota, Colombia and ordered by an unknown voice coming from the company's intercom system to participate in a deadly game of kill or be killed. Ooh, that's a good one. IMDB?

[00:06:10] So simple. So simple, so easy. Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has already done it? I know this job is real easy for me. It's copy and pasted done. And I don't deny it.

[00:06:24] No, you have to own it. If you're going to do that, you've got to own it. Yeah, just go for it. So this is our third John Gallagher Jitter film. We did Hush, did 10 Cloverfield Lane, doing the Belco experiment. He's great in every movie we do.

[00:06:43] I mean he's great in any movie he's in, but I feel like the three that we've talked about are some of his, they're some of his best films. Belco doesn't get a ton of love from the critics

[00:06:57] or people in general. But I think he does a great job as Mike Milch and I buy him as the unlikely hero or last man standing at the movie. Yeah, I like John Gallagher Jr. I

[00:07:13] don't know like a lot of, I haven't really seen other stuff that he's done much. I don't think outside of the movies we've covered. But yeah, he's kind of become a regular, you know,

[00:07:22] third time run for your lives character here. Always do enjoy seeing him when he comes up in a movie that we're doing. So yeah. Yeah, I keep checking it's like is there something else that

[00:07:34] he's doing that we could cover? Talking about his character is just always fun because you can tell that he puts everything into it. And so I really enjoy that about his acting style.

[00:07:48] Yeah. So I guess before we get into characters, probably Mike again, he said as the hero, the survivor of the main guy, we'll start with him. But yeah, just quickly, just some of the

[00:07:58] other cast, I'm not going to go over everybody, but there are certain cast members and stuff that it is a fun cast. I mean clearly James Gunn has his favorites like Michael Rooker,

[00:08:10] David Esmalke and his brother Sean. We see pop up all the time. But there's other great ones. The main one I want to like point out and we'll talk more about his character. But

[00:08:21] John C. McGinley, I yeah, always a treat. I mean he's forever Dr. Cox to me but legitimately outside of acting, he's just one of the best human beings that exists. He's such an incredible

[00:08:36] person. If you I've listened to several interviews and like podcast episodes with him and stuff and just the community work that he does with like special needs outreach and things like that because he's got a special needs child and even just stuff that he's written and done

[00:08:52] and worked on and all of that. And plus he's just such a good person, the complete opposite of a human being at the character he plays in this movie. And I so anytime I see McGinley,

[00:09:00] I love that he's great. Yeah, it's funny when you were talking about he's just such a good human all I could think is yeah, too bad the same can't be said. Right? Because he's horrible. He's great at playing asshole. He's just usually the nicest best people are really

[00:09:22] good at turning that on for a role sometimes. It's weird. Yeah. It's kind of odd. I mean, especially when you're watching a movie and you're not supposed to like someone and you hate them, you know that the actors doing a really good job to make you hate them,

[00:09:41] especially if you are such a fan of that actor's work and they're playing a bad guy. You just can't help it. You want to like them but you can't and what he does with Wendell

[00:09:55] Dukes is just it's creepy and terrifying and annoying at times. But he makes it work. And yeah, it's a lot of fun to watch him in that role. Yeah, you mentioned Sean Gunn. He actually got

[00:10:15] to pick the character he wanted to be. And I'm so glad that he picked Marty because Marty is one of the points in this movie that I just really enjoy. So I'm glad that he picked that.

[00:10:29] The fun of him and then Abraham Ben-Ruby, who I know from TV show called ER. The fun of Marty and Chet in this movie together as a duo was just it's one of my favorite parts.

[00:10:45] I was glad that they survived as long as they did. So I guess we should get into it. One of the interesting things for me is and I'm going to ask you this question, trying to figure

[00:10:56] out who's the bad guy in this movie because you've got the voice and the corporation or whoever they are. But imagine that all of this kind of devolves over a couple of hours. They so quickly

[00:11:23] go from being busy at their desk doing their jobs to shooting each other and killing each other in any way possible. I mean, the movie works very meta as far as like as a social experiment,

[00:11:39] a social commentary. It's this Lord of the Flies cranked up to 11. At first, yeah, they're all we're going to work together. This is ridiculous. We're saying civilized human beings and we're going to find a way to handle this correctly and without panicking and overthinking and jumping

[00:12:03] to conclusions. We're adults, we can handle this too. Yeah, within two and a half hours, there's one person left and it's a complete bloodbath because once you start throwing out civilization and sanity and it becomes a killer be killed fight for survival, the true

[00:12:23] like who somebody really is comes out fast. It really does. It really does. And I didn't feel it at the very beginning when the first announcement was made but after they got to see exactly what

[00:12:43] was coming or what was going to happen if they didn't comply, there were definitely signs that some people were already going to want to comply with the request or to figure out how versus the Mike

[00:12:59] Milch's who were we're not going to do such a thing because you know we're human beings. This is we can't do this. Yeah. And yet. To jump all the way to the end again, we've watched it if you're

[00:13:15] listening hopefully you've watched it but you're getting spoiled all the way through no matter what anyway. If I'm thinking you've seen this 100,000 times so Mike doesn't actually kill anybody up until the very end. Correct and I will say this it comes out earlier that Barry has this special

[00:13:36] forces training while it was no match from Mike's impressive use of a tape. I have a little note about that death by tape dispenser because the whole time I'm watching it see instead of like

[00:13:49] the practical effects or like the you know just the idea of it being a tape dispenser. I went more behind the scenes of I was really wondering how much fun James Gunn had writing that

[00:14:03] up like how do we get how does this final like kill at the end of this experiment you know how do we get creative with it like what what were what was the conversation that led to

[00:14:16] finally go and we're writing the tape dispenser scene like that's what I was thinking about is like you could have gone through a billion different things but that's what they landed on and how fun it was that to come up with that because it's creative and very unique.

[00:14:31] Well in some of the some of the items that they used in killing were related to the office or at least would be found somewhat in this corporate building that had a cafeteria like

[00:14:47] some things you would find but a lot of it was done with guns which you know in some ways you could look at it as a cop out because a lot of the marketing was showcasing office equipment

[00:15:03] and so it would have been cool to see more office equipment used although there was probably if I was in an office building what would I go to for my weapon Leandra totally did exactly what I that's

[00:15:20] exactly where I would go for an item because I think it would be the most effective but we have we also got to see it used really well in Megan a couple of weeks ago yeah the paper cutter blade

[00:15:35] it's not the first time we've seen that used no it's because I think there was one in mayhem too wasn't there probably uh yes and wasn't there one back in the faculty even possibly

[00:15:50] it's been a long time but yeah yeah I feel like there was one in the science room but yeah I feel like it's not the first time she did a good job I'm already liking where this

[00:16:05] conversation is going so far I think it's gonna be great so we should go back and start with my milch and my notes this time are a little interesting because I don't have a lot of

[00:16:18] character stuff it's just more random kind of stuff that I'll throw in and out like again you know I'll jump all over because Mike as the main character we kind of see who he is get

[00:16:29] set up and then it's just kind of thrown into the mix so it's going to be like here's where we happen and then here's the end a lot of the middle part I'm gonna skip over but you know you fill in

[00:16:37] what you want uh it's kind of all over the place like he's involved in some of the beginning stuff but then there are just different groups of characters I do wonder how somebody like Mike

[00:16:49] winds up in this job you know where he doesn't even really know what he's doing this building out is so remote in a different country out in the middle of nowhere like security

[00:16:59] setup I don't think they usually have this kind of like the soldiers the armed soldiers and stuff I think are new but like still like the security fences and just being away from everything

[00:17:09] interesting well and he's fighting on the phone with one of his co-workers who didn't go into the office he's at home sick lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky person they chose the right day to be sick yes unfortunately Danny picked the wrong day to start a new job

[00:17:34] but we'll get to yeah this is secluded office building out in Columbia I mean at least they probably have really great coffee but other than that I don't know yeah I think that's probably a

[00:17:48] given I don't really know what his I don't think anybody knows what they really do there um I tried to piece it together the most I got about like Belko is it was like because we over here one

[00:18:02] guy on the phone talking to somebody and then there's like the video at the end when they're he's scuffling with Barry but it's like so Belko as a company their job is to just

[00:18:11] hire Americans to work in other countries and that's pretty much what they do yeah from what I gather is it's just yeah it's just like a hiring firm where they help Americans get hired at more

[00:18:26] Belko locations across the world is like but what do you actually do we make more employees yeah we hire people okay but to do what to hire more people I feel like they hire people to work for

[00:18:41] other companies too like it's part of the process like they find Americans who want to go overseas and work in different industries and so they help find those employees I don't know I mean

[00:18:56] HR department is what looks like it's one person and an assistant that's not much for 80 employees I mean 80 not counting all the like local people that work there for who knows what they're doing

[00:19:13] yeah they were sent home I think that would have been my first clue watching them get turned around to go home and Mike does put it together he's like they don't have chips in their heads

[00:19:27] we do like he starts to put it together even though he gets people get dismissive of it with him he does start to put things together that aspect and then yeah looking out the window and seeing

[00:19:41] the armed guard like walking into the hangar and it's just like something is definitely off but if I was going to work at Belko in a department I'd want to work in his

[00:19:55] because he had the fun people he had Keith he had Peggy he had a couple of others in there they were all pretty fun they all seemed fun and they were the ones who throughout the movie

[00:20:07] kept working together on the different projects like making the banners and just um you know trying to take care of each other with all the other craziness that was going on the interesting thing about this is every character had a name for the most part the problem is

[00:20:27] you don't really know who it is unless you piece everything together and there's actually a wikiah for Belko experiment where you can actually go and look up some of the things it's like oh yeah so

[00:20:39] that's that guy and this is this guy and I'm a nerd when it comes to stuff like this so I like so Mike yeah we learned pretty quickly about him and Leandra are a thing

[00:20:50] and then also Wendell and Leandra are a thing I mean only in Wendell's fantasies in his head but you know yes yeah so creepy I mean even right down to the instant messaging he's instant messaging

[00:21:12] with Leandra and his picture is creepy like it's it's just he's not good he's not good he thinks he's in that to me he's one of those wannabe people he wants to be in the same world

[00:21:30] as Barry Norris who's like the CEO or COO or whatever he wants to be one of the cool dudes one of the cool people wants to be a sidekick wants to be part of this clique but he clearly is not at that

[00:21:44] level of cool yeah so the voice comes over the intercom they notice these weird things happening when they're coming into work and then there's the voice over the intercom that they think is a

[00:22:00] joke although Mike is I don't know if Mike I mean I think he wants to hope it's a joke but I don't think that he necessarily thinks that it is a joke as time goes on and they're just kind of in the

[00:22:13] lobby hanging out waiting before the head start exploding he's just in the lobby hanging out and talking with Barry Norris and and the others and he's he's just trying to you know do they is this real and everyone's convinced yeah it's just the voice over yeah you're like

[00:22:38] okay which you notice because Barry goes and checks in the like the intercom physical there's nobody in here it's not coming from inside then when all of the windows and doors all get shuttered up with like just completely unpassable metal and something you're like

[00:22:55] okay things are a little more serious you would think but this place seems sus from the beginning again we haven't talked about the trackers in their heads other than you mentioned the

[00:23:05] explosion yeah like when a tracker is part of a job like requirement it's always a little sus I mean their reasoning that that is given to Danny like makes sense to a degree I guess but

[00:23:19] but still it's a little sus and I'm not even talking like some kind of like conspiracy mark of the beast ridiculous whatever nonsense but just in general like it's like it's still a little sus it's a little suspect it's a little suspect it is not something that I

[00:23:40] would want to do for a job it seems like that you they'd be tracking you I don't know I just find it like it would be a lot of big brother like oh you want to know how many times I go to the restroom

[00:23:53] in a day or how much time I spend on my lunch am I staying out of the office if it's something you can opt into like especially for like yeah the women in the office is like if you feel like

[00:24:04] like you're in danger or whatever then we can you can opt into having a tracker put probably not in your like why are they like and you got to put it in in like my my head we can't

[00:24:16] just do like a little like arm thing or like something like yeah there's so many questions I would have had I don't know why they're just like okay with it uh yeah it'd be like opted in

[00:24:25] is like if you feel like that's something you need so that we can find you if something happens then sure but for it to be a requirement it's like yeah there are certainly other ways that you can go about it can we just have like an office wide

[00:24:40] find my phone like you know find a friend situation and we're all just in the network together or something I don't uh yeah I mean I get that it's dangerous but why would you also not

[00:24:54] put it in your local employees too do you not care about their safety I mean I'd have to question it is this for all employees or just this specific set of employees that's how it seems

[00:25:11] and so Mike then putting two together well Barry is the one that really notices like that's not a gunshot and then yeah so Mike seeing oh okay the trackers are being detonated and

[00:25:21] others are figuring that out that's where he goes to try to remove his which is yeah makes sense the first thing and then the voice comes over and scolds him and warns him and uh

[00:25:31] that's where everybody realizes like they can see that he's doing that and they're seeing people pulling cameras out of the walls and oh we're all we have all been under intense surveillance everywhere we go and everything we do for this whole time awesome exactly exactly

[00:25:48] and so they basically tell Mike that if he continues to try to take it out of his head that they will detonate it anyway and so he stops it takes in a little bit he's

[00:26:03] Mike Mike plays this interesting role of he's very impulsive but it's always like for a good reason is he's he doesn't get impulsive like he doesn't get panicky or whatever like other people do no he spends most of his time trying to be the level-headed voice of reason

[00:26:23] but he also will take steps to do things that he that need to be done yeah but not like in the way that Barry would say oh it needs to be done with with everyone

[00:26:35] in mind uh so even if that includes the shooting you know the host and mechanics to the blowtorch so they can't use that anymore uh he doesn't want to hurt anybody but he's like look we've got to think clearly and stop jumping to conclusions and doing ridiculous things

[00:26:57] yeah you're right he does keep the greater group of people in his mind as far as when he does things he's thinking about the you know the the safety of the bigger of the whole group where when it starts to kind of devolve into every man for himself

[00:27:24] not that long after the initial killing because they come on the intercom and they say we're gonna you know you have 30 minutes to kill two people or work you know if you don't you'll see the consequences and they don't kill two people they're just kind of waited out

[00:27:53] and then the powers that be or the new god as Barry calls them at one point they kill four people there was a man in the lobby and the girl on the roof and the girl in

[00:28:06] the cafeteria then another man in the lobby and one of them I guess was a friend of Evans so that's and then Barry goes and inspects and really says no this is coming from inside and they figure

[00:28:19] out that it's the chips in their head not which not a game or the child the the test the what they have to do it's it's simple uh it's terrible but simple is you kill the chosen

[00:28:33] number of people within the given time frame or double the amount of that will be killed by the ones that are running this experiment it's very simple um right yeah but a lot to to go off of it so

[00:28:45] yeah this half model half CGI building is about to be the location of some crazy stuff going down yeah when they panned out and showed it from like the sky view and I'm like

[00:28:56] so the parking lot in the cars are definitely models but the rest of that is CGI yeah yes I thought it was quite funny how the cars all were parked and the models were

[00:29:10] it didn't match up I'm just let's just say the CGI for this was not great it was it was yeah the practical effects were decent CGI was just yeah there's one scene in particular won't

[00:29:23] get to it that I'm just like yep okay yeah bad CGI just real yeah I don't have many other notes about Mike until the end of the movie kind of how he because a lot of it then just becomes like I said

[00:29:38] him trying to be levelheaded and failing with everyone else around him failing and then yeah just seeing everybody dying kind of just getting pushed around butted around and finally having to accept at the end it's like because it comes down to after Leandra dies

[00:29:57] from beginning hit beginning shot by he's done by Barry yeah then it just becomes all right it's the two of us left and then that killer be killed mentality comes in it's like well

[00:30:08] when it's just me and the person who's been killing the most people there's no more oh let's handle this sanely and civilly now it's like if I'm walking out of here I do what I have to

[00:30:17] do then yep give me the tape dispenser I'll bash his up and had him because he shot Leandra and she had earlier in the movie said to him should we be taking this slower their relationship

[00:30:37] and by the time we get a couple of hours later she tells him that she loves him and then she dies and he's got no fucks left to give at that point he jumps out of the locker

[00:30:52] and goes after Barry and they beat each other up until it gets the tape dispenser and I thought the presentation going in the background was a riot like it's projected onto the screen

[00:31:04] all while they're fighting it's just now it's the time for you to find your destiny yeah uh well he did isn't that is there a cartoon that goes with the power of grayskull or something I don't know

[00:31:22] he man yeah that's what I was thinking honestly was something like that like this is you know like the tape dispenser is just gonna get hit by a bolt of lightning and it's gonna be something great not a sword a tape dispenser by the power of scott um

[00:31:47] yeah that would make a great ending yeah so he's he's the last standing at the end of everything and then we see him really flip into a very different mentality he kind of becomes the

[00:31:59] like action hero badass uh where yeah he's he he's brought out by the soldiers and is brought to the voice this man behind everything and the people here the end and we see that he had a plan in that

[00:32:13] he took the the bombs the detonators in the heads of the people who were killed without being detonated that marty and chet had been collecting uh which their plans for them um

[00:32:24] you know I don't you know leandra says oh it's a great idea no no it's not but you know what at least they were doing something productive and dream big kids dream big um exactly I

[00:32:36] they were trying I mean everyone else was just trying to kill each other but you know chat chat and marty were just trying to figure out a way out and marty's like so we can get out of here okay

[00:32:49] you you do that you sure uh you do that if it makes you feel better it makes me happy um but but it does come into the handy because mike ends up with them after leandra shows him

[00:33:03] it's like oh that's what they were working on and he pockets them and so as he's being carried out he very you know while kind of wiggling around and stumbling around and looking like he's you know resisting and pulling away but really he's slipping these detonators into pockets

[00:33:18] and pouches and parts of the soldiers and then even runs up and grabs this the voice the leader and plants one in his pocket and stuff too or maybe a couple uh and yeah slips them onto them

[00:33:31] and he fights back blows them up making sure to be careful of his own uh on the board uh yes but he flips all the other switches kind of incapacitating everybody grabs one of the

[00:33:45] guns and takes them out and then of course this the voice is credited this leader you know oh well you know he's been watching him this whole time so then he tries to turn it on he's like wait you

[00:33:54] were the voice of reason you know i could tell that you didn't want to hurt anybody you believe life is sacred and i could sell him like i'm thinking yeah not yours uh no i knew he was out

[00:34:06] i knew he was going to take him out because he at that point he lost everything and he was just going to let it all out and i was glad that he took those um little bombs and did that because

[00:34:24] i felt like this is not you know this is chet and marty this is their contribution to the end of this movie is they meticulously surgically removed all of those little trackers

[00:34:39] and yeah i love them that mike melch just took them and yeah took care of it but we learned what we learn after that is that this is not an isolated incident which i was thinking is like

[00:34:54] okay now he should probably revisit the idea of removing the his own detonator from his head again now you should do that you know that switchboard still exists somebody can still have access

[00:35:04] to it like maybe you should do that yeah because as you're saying yeah apparently there's a stage two that seems to be involving all the survivors of all the other belco locations worldwide that have

[00:35:17] done this same thing and now we know what belco was really about it is basically probably some rich businessmen put all of this together so that they could do conduct a huge social experiment

[00:35:34] for their own reasons i guess yeah so and stage two does that mean there's a sequel does that mean there's anything coming i have a yeah i have a couple little things uh i looked up one thing uh

[00:35:50] there's when asked about a sequel i have some answers from the guns uh shan gun his exact words are i don't know the movie was i guess a little bit of success but it's always hard to guess

[00:36:03] that sort of thing as of now there are no plans that i know of but we sure had a lot of fun doing that um uh you know he did when you meet his character he's on the roof having you know

[00:36:17] some marijuana like he's smoking pot on the roof with his friends because there's nothing else they can do however james gun with that same question had an answer for someone saying

[00:36:30] i have it all in my head i've got the next two in my head and if people want a sequel i will give them a sequel so uh even though yeah even though james gun has said that as of now there's nothing

[00:36:45] in the works that's known yeah yeah i wish that they would but i also don't want them to do it unless it's going to be unless they try to follow a similar formula well i like the idea

[00:36:59] that james gun says he's got two more movies in his head he knows what he wants to do with it if he ever continued of course he does but i don't want him to direct it like i want him to do the story

[00:37:11] and let someone else like direct it that way he doesn't feel the pressure because when he was when they first were approaching him about directing it he was going through a divorce

[00:37:24] and he could not he's like i can't go through this like i can't direct this movie right now i'm already in a dark place but maybe i'd be okay with him coming back to it even as director i mean now

[00:37:36] that he's he has shown that like between guardians and the suicide squad the new suicide squad movies that he's got a knack for this because yeah it's dark and it's gory and it's got stuff to say

[00:37:49] but it is still james gun there is such a healthy dose of dark humor and comedy mixed into this for sure yeah i liked it that's one of the things i liked about it because the comedy they were enough

[00:38:04] comedic parts that it wasn't completely hopeless and dark but they were also the dark dark places were super dark and i liked the mix of you gotta have a good little healthy like dark humor in the

[00:38:19] mix yeah we could hear your whole conversation it's it's a cubicle for the record i think he was way out of line with the hey hey hey yeah oh god i loved marty's line when he was talking about

[00:38:39] he was talking to leander she's like you're gonna tell them where we are some of these people are total dicks and i'm like yes they are the world according to marty loved it i i loved that shawng

[00:38:54] gun even though his brother wasn't directing this one jumped in to have a role in it anyway so the guns were actually represented in the movie by his appearance plus the script um there's just

[00:39:09] there's so many quotes and just different things that i wrote down as i was going through it it's different as we've said before to watch a movie and then podcast on it because it's

[00:39:24] looking at it a different way but honestly when i watched this one i was just like you know i know this movie i yeah watching it was a little bit different but i also just felt like

[00:39:43] it was a comfortable place i guess because i've seen it so many times which is kind of odd if you think about it this is not an easy movie to watch i guess i mean it's

[00:39:55] short so it's not super long so it's easy to digest that way but it's not one that you know it's not a rom-com that most people would throw on in the background while they were doing things

[00:40:07] i don't throw rom-coms on in the background this is what i put on in the background in the background yeah so i summed up kind of mic stuff i don't know if you had anymore because

[00:40:19] i skipped over most of the movie but i covered what i wanted to talk about with him there were some funny parts because um evan and mike after evan um basically keeps them from being able to use

[00:40:40] the blow to watch evan and mike are on the elevator just kind of talking about how cool it is and leandra is like having none of it because she realizes what he did could mean to something bigger later

[00:40:54] that could come back to bite him but they're not really paying attention to that you know evan and mike are just you showed them because it kind of made me go back to high

[00:41:05] school like you've got the barry norris and his you know i had a couple different names for them throughout the the movie i called them the full horseman of the apocalypse um but then they were five of them just kept growing because

[00:41:24] bradley joined them and then tony um at one point and tony oh yes he's scary he wields a meat cleaver or a knife or whatever he has yeah no he's very scary only mike would

[00:41:40] notice that the blow torch is missing and i'm like yep the full horseman yep yeah so we can talk about some other thing i mean there are other characters in here

[00:41:56] that we can talk about some of the parts with them i mean mike's involved with some things but it's more of like little group efforts at different times yeah so looking through here leondra would

[00:42:07] be next but i don't have a lot so i might just throw all of my thoughts out on her real quick and then let you talk about whatever you want to as well um of course we see her being kind of harsh

[00:42:19] with mike early on i feel it is a little harsh but when they have that conversation really at the end of the day it's because she's worried that he's gonna get himself killed being too self not

[00:42:30] self-righteous but just righteous just to you're trying so hard to do the right thing that you're gonna get on the bad side of the people who are doing the wrong thing and you're gonna get

[00:42:39] yourself killed you need to she's almost like chewing him out for not being selfish enough because it's not helpful in that situation she doesn't think um and that's when they basically have been given the ultimatum that they have to kill 30 people or

[00:42:59] they're gonna kill 60 meaning the 30 or however many they killed plus additionally to add up to 60 people and mike is trying to get berry to not consider actually going through with killing people and lia that's when liandra gets really on his case about it because

[00:43:24] she knows that people are only out for themselves when it comes down to it that's how it's gonna end up being and she she was right at the end of the day that's what you know even

[00:43:36] the people that were good and were with mike's group till almost the end and at the end of the day it came down to that they had to fight for themselves it's just what had

[00:43:48] to happen for them because all there could only be one win one win and it the conversation broke down pretty quickly after yeah this like 30 ultimatum was really realized like this is what's gonna happen because yeah you play along and kill to protect more people versus mike's

[00:44:06] way of this very moral and ethical issue of killing people in the first place it's the trolley problem at its best and most insane uh i like mike's kind of breaking down

[00:44:19] liandra like he's thinking about like what is this he's like that's what this whole job is is we've been here this it's all been leading up to this moment in this organization like he's he's spelling out exactly what's happening it's like that's what this was about

[00:44:32] and i like liandra she goes no that case she was that's impossible impossible and i'm watching going um liandra i hate to break it to you but i i i read the synopsis earlier and

[00:44:44] no he's right that's exactly what's happening um you should pay more attention to the he did try to tell them too easily do you really think they're gonna let us out of here after killing 30 people like they weren't even thinking about that they were just

[00:45:04] thinking about buying themselves time but he was right like what was the end game it wasn't about let's kill 30 people it was okay we're gonna kill 30 people this round what's it gonna be next

[00:45:19] like it seems to be growing and growing and growing they really weren't considering it he was he knew and his had what was going to happen next he had already decided and that's why they

[00:45:31] couldn't give in but they had to decide which ones are the ones that they detonate it's like whoever's higher build in the movie now they can't do that uh i mean they're watching everything

[00:45:45] is like is it just from like a standpoint of them being like it's more interesting of this person still alive uh yeah maybe it is like we don't it's not at random it's like who are the people

[00:45:57] who are like the most entertaining to watch from their standpoint like somebody who's just been hiding out but then dany spent the whole movie hiding and she never got detonated so no that was

[00:46:10] great though when we get to dany i will talk about the great injustice of dany and her demise because not cool i was not happy she earned a bigger better death than that honestly yeah

[00:46:26] it was just i kind of like it actually i'm i think i'm on the opposite end of that i like that it's i think i like that it's just completely pointless like it's it pulls the expectation from

[00:46:39] you it's kind of like this pull the rug out from under your feet in a fun way again it's almost like a level of dark comedy it's funny it's funny in a dark way that she spends the

[00:46:48] whole movie sneaking around and hiding and surviving and climbing through elevator shafts and it's like oh she's a badass she's a survivor only just boom headshot done like to be a afterthought it's

[00:47:00] it's it's funny in a dark way it kind of is yeah well i mean she did save mike's life by turning off the lights at the moment that she did because that changed every that changed the course of

[00:47:18] the book of course it had to because if mike had died at that point we couldn't have had that right movie would have been right uh let's see a couple other like leondron notes that was on that uh

[00:47:32] she chooses to spare terry which shows her humanity there which makes sense uh i kind of like that that given the opportunity to fence herself and then realizes when she's not in immediate danger

[00:47:43] she's like that's not who i am i'm not gonna do that of course with that decision that brings the final body count of that round to 29 so they're one short so now 31 extra ones are gonna die

[00:47:58] including terry so womp womp uh yeah we lost some good people in that round i mean there were some people like we lost terry we lost leota pegie watching um i watched some of the extras and

[00:48:16] there's some uh deleted scenes between mike and pegie after they kill antonio or after pegie kills antonio and it i wish it had been in the movie because it was i just appreciated having that

[00:48:35] extra look at that um i also liked pegie and mike's relationship i thought you know he would he liked his team of people obviously because when he went to work on whatever project they went with him

[00:48:52] you knew people were gonna die i mean in watching this it's just it made me think too of swinging in some ways just because of the way that it just was random at times how things worked out and

[00:49:06] and then people were gone and poor keith is excited because he thinks that he's made it and used the last one to go which is sad uh leondra also has she runs into window and finally can rid herself of

[00:49:26] that creeperzoid uh so that was she got she got that moment unfortunately in that r.i.p marty and chet that was there and but at least window was taken care of by her by axe to the face it was amazing

[00:49:43] i was so excited i cheered at that moment i was bummed about marty and chet um there's also a deleted scene where um leandra is comforting marty after he got shot in the neck as he's like

[00:49:59] bleeding out she's just kind of holding his head and just talking to him or you know trying to just be there i guess um yeah that sucked but watching her take out window was

[00:50:16] is amazing and she called him out on chet too she's like that's tyson he was your friend and then wendell is just trying to blow it off like oh you know it's it's not it's it's barry he i don't

[00:50:31] know how many he has like this is just a game of capture the flag or paintball in the woods i mean that you're not really hurting anyone after he's taken a meat cleaver to his friend so that's

[00:50:45] all i had on her so i should throw out my thoughts and i liked her as a character i thought she was a bit badass but not in a way of being a superhero i thought that she you know calling out

[00:51:01] mike and getting him to understand you know that people are going to be out for themselves and it's something he needed to hear um being very bold to tell mike to come and get her over

[00:51:13] the loud speaker which meant that everyone was going to know where they were you know and being honest you know with mike and and say you're gonna be basically inferring you're gonna be on

[00:51:27] on the radar they're they're kind of one you know you're gonna be in danger because you're looked at you know like a troublemaker like you're causing you're questioning everything that's being done so the powers that be are not going to want you to be around basically

[00:51:45] i think that's what you know she tries to get through his head but he's just trying to be a good person he doesn't want anyone to die he really doesn't devolve into like you said he

[00:52:01] doesn't evolve into being having that kill or be killed instinct until the end when he has nothing left everyone is dead and so he's just like gonna take him out i mean leandra tells him

[00:52:19] you can't save everyone and that just makes him like he's just like he can't fathom it you know because he's a good person you know we don't get a lot of deep information on any

[00:52:36] of these characters it's really kind of a you know we get a little bit but it's this movie has never been about being such a deep concept that you have to like have philosophical conversations

[00:52:55] about characters it's it is what it is and it doesn't apologize i guess is what i'm saying all right well next barry and then just kind of his growing posse uh

[00:53:12] notes about them if you're ready to move to there i am barry seems like an okay guy yeah uh he yeah he really seems to be with mike on like let's calm everybody down let's make sure we're

[00:53:30] level headed let's deal with this as adults but but he's also the first one to really start throwing the conversation around of maybe we just do what they say to do so we can have our best chance

[00:53:42] of survival yeah he does he sits in there and says maybe we should you know and then terry who is supposedly very very good friends with mike is just kind of saying but if it can save more

[00:53:58] you know if we kill third but it saves everyone else isn't it worth it and mike is not having yeah but then they it's kind of they devolve into this yeah like us versus everyone else mentality

[00:54:10] like their own little special club pretty quickly especially you know barry goes to evan and says hey well it's like he's not buying that you know it's like uh give me the keys to the

[00:54:21] armory so that i can hold on to the guns and then that way they're safe and it's like no i like that evan is like i'm not going to give them to you like he was very smart in that case

[00:54:32] he's like how about they're just safe locked up where they're at we don't why do you need to have them i'm the boss okay i don't care uh i was like i quit they don't answer to you then

[00:54:46] yeah and then yeah there's never really a good like he was trying to like cover up his reasoning for wanting the guns but no it's this power trip thing because finally we wouldn't want somebody to

[00:54:55] break into the armory and get the weapons out so we're gonna break into the armory and get the weapons out exactly and what do they do they break into the armory to get the weapons out i mean

[00:55:06] come on yeah and so it starts yeah barry terry and windle have the their trio of team tough guy i i called it at first uh is because you know they have families so we matter more than other

[00:55:17] people i don't know about windle he probably doesn't but he's just a psychopath who's attached themselves to attach to them uh which i'm yeah wendell had a blast with this honestly he's like

[00:55:30] the kiria i think it's kiriyama from battle royale who just goes out to be on it because he wants to kill people i mean that this that's how i feel about yeah wendell i think that's

[00:55:43] finally my calling uh i mean yeah he's the one that kind of really crosses the line he stabs evan to get the keys or evan throws the keys down and so he stabs him i like again dark comedy the line

[00:55:57] he's just like will you threw the keys down he's like and stabbing him's gonna make them fly back up here uh well he was gonna have to go anyway and that just showed you that they were you know

[00:56:10] they'd already bought into the plan of killing 30 people and so then the the bad guy brigade another name for them uh then had access to the armory and that's when after they had access

[00:56:22] to the armory i switched them to a third name where they became the armed and angry assholes uh where they continue to to grow in ranks should play okay i get it so yeah we had the

[00:56:34] team tough guy who had tea i like i like alliteration if you didn't know so then bad bad guy brigade little bg alliteration and then and then armed and angry assholes became the

[00:56:43] next one uh yep i think it's great it's triple a and it's not for your car uh yeah and then they round everybody up in the lobby and then uh while they're doing so you see a not so normal guy

[00:56:59] notices danie hiding down there and chooses to leave her alone and hiding down in the boiler room area bradley yes he's the one that had a kind of given her the eyes earlier in the day

[00:57:11] when she pushed this was her first day on the job and he kind of showed an interest in her and he left her alone and then yeah you see barry kind of devolve where he's he's still kidding himself

[00:57:26] and others that he's like oh i'm doing making the hard decisions and doing what needs to be done as the boss and as the leader but no uh you kind of see because he's choosing people

[00:57:39] to live or die at first he's you know anyone with young kids gets to live but then we're gonna immediately condemn anyone over the age of 60 and then realizing we still don't have enough people so then he gets to handpick the other victims like what gives him

[00:57:51] that right as the boss and obviously at this point mike is on his shit list uh uh yeah he the people that he's picking as you can tell it's like people that have like wronged

[00:58:04] him or he's been annoyed with or all of his employees like he's thinking is like all right who took too many sick days who did you know uh there's the one lady i never get to know her name

[00:58:13] she was real annoying i know whenever she was in the lineup and then he shoots her and i was like in managers everywhere suddenly felt a sense of relief uh they couldn't explain it but they did uh

[00:58:26] was it that do you think are you talking about whoever haircut lady would wild wild ismic managers layer uh it was just real terse with everyone all the time um oh the one that told dany that

[00:58:42] she needed to yeah yes her oh yeah yes it was her yeah she has a name um what is her name oh is it not lorraine no lorraine it was the later girl she has a name i don't remember what it is

[00:59:03] though and that's kind of bugging me because i know who a lot of them asked target i'm sure she's on a list somewhere don't don't let this one i mean um don't let her bully you yeah she just closes her

[00:59:20] eyes and is like i mean why would you not try to fight at least you know that you gave everything i mean the thing is the people that were in the lineup at least three of them were from mic's department

[00:59:38] and and then you have mic so it's like okay do you have something against that team of people do you not like the ant farm that they have is there something wrong with it you can clearly see that

[00:59:50] like the power is already to his head and then it's when dany shuts off the lights and chaos ensues and people running around dan winner says how many how many they had you know one of them is

[01:00:03] trying to count the bodies in the lobby to kind of do the math and he literally says don't count just go get as many as you can and i was like doesn't that kind of defeat the whole

[01:00:13] purpose of the greater good mentality that you had barry uh so at this point now you're just admitting that you're on a murderous power trip got it like yep and it's only been a couple hours

[01:00:26] and then we've devolved into this yeah it just continues to he just can yeah it's a power trip you know and i like that ventz who's the hr guy actually calls him out earlier on well not all

[01:00:41] of us have are at the same advantages as others you know with special forces training basically throwing a barb at him for this would be a situation that he could totally be in control of

[01:00:57] because he's had training you know he knows he knew how to calm everyone down he was able to take care of that but he also um knew what to do rounded everybody up and got them all down and

[01:01:12] just i mean wendell doesn't even need an excuse he'll kill anyone well yeah because we see after the the 60 you know with what they do plus the extra 31 then that's the next the final part of the game is

[01:01:28] the mo whoever is left with the most kills or it really comes down to who's just left the last one standing um right but yeah most kills is the one who survives gets to walk out so

[01:01:41] barry's holding the current record so he takes out like one or two more and then he's his plan was just to go up to his office and lock himself away and wait it out and hope he got the most

[01:01:50] uh while windell was trying to play catch up by playing serial killer at the same time uh yeah he had the meat cleaver and he was going around like chopping everybody up and then even vents that you mentioned there being a voice of reason earlier now he's flipped

[01:02:05] on his mentality because well i got one so i might as well just try to you know win this thing so he just flips on it and starts shooting people yeah he kills his assistant i have to say this i loved

[01:02:21] when bradley was trying to turn the lights back on and vince just showed up and knocked him down and then everyone came in and beat him because it's like well you know you might be cute but

[01:02:35] you're a bit of an asshole and you're part of that and the oppressed rise up and free themselves from the shackles of their tormentors through knives and stomping uh yeah and then unfortunately

[01:02:49] what ended up happening is a lot of people in that group of people died and then it was basically vince is still there with his assistant rizia and another random man and he just apologizes and starts shooting because there is no choice

[01:03:11] they've been given the final challenge which is whoever has the most kills yeah and so i mentioned barry yeah taking off to go uh to the top you just hide out but he doesn't quite

[01:03:21] make it to his office because he gets stuck in the elevator because roberto got in the way of it going up uh and one way or another he was he kind of you know gummed up the works a

[01:03:33] little bit so to speak uh yeah dany was a lot quicker to get out of that situation uh roberto not so much i did think it was funny that when the the voice is reading or telling the stats of

[01:03:53] who has how many kills and she's listed as having won he just slowly takes his arm off of her i slowly takes his arm away for me i like yeah it's like uh okay it's like it was kind of an accident

[01:04:08] but lawni was really freaked out yeah because that goes back to yeah bud and lawni which james gunn mainstays i mentioned earlier michael rooker and david s mount yeah we're you know bud lawni are seeing if they can torch their way out and they can't

[01:04:24] uh so then they're back downstairs trying to figure stuff out but then yeah lawni goes into panic mode he just loses it and he accidentally kills bud while he's freaking out

[01:04:34] danie's hiding down there and sees it so then he just doubles down on like panic defense mode and then she ends up killing him in self-defense as he's spiraling uh yeah i was real sad honestly that

[01:04:49] that they lawni and bud didn't last longer because i mean michael rooker is he's got an element of comedy in whatever he's doing and i really wanted to see somebody who has been blessed

[01:05:05] by being in the personal presence of michael rooker multiple times in a room with him speaking and talking with people and being ridiculous he is just he is a force but it's always so much fun

[01:05:20] like i said it's like yeah he's he's an insane person but in the best way like some of my favorite moments have been being in a room with him because i know it's going to be

[01:05:29] an entertaining time yep when i was doing some research which i didn't do a lot but when i was doing research i came across this um lego version of the preview or the trailer for

[01:05:46] velko and the fun thing about it this is the fun thing about it you're watching it and it's got all the voices and everything and they've turned everyone into legos except michael rooker and bud the character of bud is actually that's funny yeah from grotties of the galaxy

[01:06:06] and i'm just like oh that's perfect it was so fun um so yeah uh i'm trying to see if i have any notes at all just kind of other random stuff the spanish versions of songs i will survive at

[01:06:25] the beginning and then like later on like during like the like lobby killing scene and you had this like california dream and they're just those were great music choices but james gun and music

[01:06:35] choices go hand in hand he knows what he's oh my god i mean talk about guardians you mentioned that exactly i have to admit that i have both of those versions on a playlist just because

[01:06:50] i loved it so much it's just yeah it's just fun yeah i think we talked about danie pretty much yeah she's new seems to be fitting in all right but yeah i used to mention picked the absolute

[01:07:03] worst day to start a new job uh and then yeah i think i've covered pretty much her because yeah i talked about like that stuff and then she spends most of the movie just kind of in hiding

[01:07:13] and the elevator shaft stuff and then it all ends unceremoniously uh see i talked about uh the bane of managers everywhere uh marty i've talked too much about him uh he was right about the experiment part on the rooftop uh he was not right about them

[01:07:36] definitely being safe uh let's just say it was a mind-blowing realization that he was wrong um yeah marty kind of freaked out a bit after lucy's head exploded like her head exploded while

[01:07:51] they were on the roof and that was it he had to get it out did you get it all out did you get it all out because he didn't want it i mean he was just completely free like he seems like he's the

[01:08:00] guy who's like the conspiracy theorist hippie type on like a normal day so he's really ramping up now give him everything to feed on and just yeah yeah yeah um i was afraid though uh wendell was

[01:08:17] gonna kill leandra because she called him a pervert yeah the don't call me a pervert i'm not a pervert and i'm like i i don't know man the way that you're so bothered by that word that you're gonna hold

[01:08:27] a knife to someone's throat for saying it it makes me kind of think you might be i just i don't know and again i talked about mcginley uh john c mcginley that wendell is the exact opposite of the actor

[01:08:40] he's this total creep with no concept of boundaries uh well again john c mcginley is an angel on this earth uh and then yeah last you uh tyson is the other character that he's killing his friend there is

[01:08:55] we see the little clip of him hiding and i'm like okay indiana jones uh it's it's not a nuclear blast but maybe the fridge will help you you know survive the murderous co-workers but then no no

[01:09:06] not when wendell is the one hunting down hit it will not no he was hidden in there earlier he was super nervous and neurotic in the lobby and then he also at one point when marty and chet were dumping

[01:09:23] up the water it's another one that was like marty was convinced very dark humor things you see him writing this note to his kids and it's like real sad yeah and then he's like interrupted by yeah

[01:09:33] chet coming out and just dumping the water did you drink any and he's like uh yeah so neurotic um yeah i think um the only things that i have left are really around the music

[01:09:52] you mentioned james yeah james gun knows how to put music in a movie and make it almost a character right down to the music that was used for the trailer for this movie in the trailer they used

[01:10:08] requiem which is by joseph a verde and it was also used in battle royale but that it's just a very powerful piece of music but then he didn't stop with that or the spanish versions of those songs

[01:10:22] when they're hurting them all to the lobby they used a song called rosaaka song to the moon it was an opera piece by avon kenney um and then when the 30 additional people are being killed because

[01:10:39] they didn't meet the quota they use chikovsky's piano concerto one b flat minor which also was incredibly impactful i really felt like that added and my last bit because i found one more note

[01:10:58] the short conversation that barry and mike have at the end where barry norris tells him he didn't change a damn thing and mike looks at him before he takes him out with the tape

[01:11:13] dispenser and says neither did you because in some ways moved away from survival and it became a barry versus mike issue instead of well let's work together to get out of here or to figure

[01:11:29] things out or whatever it just devolved into like lord of the flies like separate groups doing separate things one group's trying to do the right thing or do something that doesn't involve killing people while the other side is just plotting and planning on how they're going to

[01:11:47] take everybody out so do you have another note i am uh noted out you're noted out okay well i'm really glad that we got to do this one because like i said i've been wanting to for a

[01:12:05] while it just hasn't worked with the timing and i'm glad that we got to talk about it it's really fun hey now we can find out what maybe other people had to say about it because that feedback

[01:12:16] phone is going it always knows the right time all right let me get to that all right we get the feedback phone answered it looks like we do have a couple of little pieces of feedback for

[01:12:27] the belco experiment this week so uh yeah i'll let you take the first one definitely you get the the heavy lifting this week right garret says this was a really good movie and i wish they do a sequel

[01:12:40] me too garret yeah yeah we talked about that is yeah so if you've listened to this now then you heard our updates our current updates on on sequel plans nothing yet but there's always hope

[01:12:53] hold on to it it could yeah who knows um and then yeah uh the other one this time comes from kathryn of course always coming through lots of great stuff to say so i'll go ahead and kick it off she

[01:13:05] says this was a hard watch but hit some pretty accurate points that are true in society today the physically stronger white men obtain weapons by any means necessary and make life or death decisions based on their panicked feelings but the real enemy is unseen manipulating everything

[01:13:20] from deciding which employees can enter the building to which ones will have their head chip exploded seeing the names beside each detonation button showed the quote unquote study was being pushed in certain directions the entire time i wasn't expecting michael rooker to be knocked

[01:13:35] off so early and kept expecting him to come back at some point despite that dent in his head i really thought danny was going to be the clue to the way out since it was her first day and i didn't think

[01:13:43] she got a chip in her head i did laugh during the elevator scene hardcore but overall this was a pretty intense movie i kept thinking of any way things could have been handled better but

[01:13:54] without knowing the rules people couldn't be expected to react with any logic or reason perhaps everyone could have written down what's important to them kids pets family etc made copies and distributed them in the hopes that any survivors would help but it wasn't clear from the start

[01:14:09] that there would only be one survivor man that ending gave me some mixed feelings as satisfying as it was for mike to take out the people who organized this i was a bit disappointed that it appeared everything was getting wrapped up nicely but when those cameras showed that

[01:14:22] this was just part of something even bigger my mouth dropped and the disappointment vanished i enjoyed this movie just as much as battle royale squid games and the hunger games though i'm in no

[01:14:31] rush for a rewatch the perfect palette cleanser for the belco experiment is more pneumonia my daughter has put it on every day for the last week sometimes twice a day and while it's generally just background noise she'll insist we give our undivided attention to the animal

[01:14:45] transformation montages and shadow monster scenes yes yay we've got a path i love that i love that pneumonia is the gift that keeps on giving and is the palette cleanser definitely hopefully next

[01:15:02] week's movie is a little less stressful but we'll find out what that's going to be at the end of the episode if you want to submit your feedback you can do so by finding us on facebook and instagram

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[01:15:41] appreciate it we absolutely do always appreciate the feedback and of course speaking of sharing the love gotta give those shout outs to things going on in the podcast universe around us podcastica getting a little busy again with some more stuff good stuff going on of course again

[01:15:58] the like flagship show the flagship universe the walking dead is back with the walking dead the ones who live which of course if you know the walking dead stuff if you're familiar it is a rick

[01:16:12] and machone kind of catch up spin-off series that we're all super excited to be watching and it is here it's happening uh jason and lucy have covered the first episode they get like

[01:16:23] they're gonna have them up quick too i think i mentioned last week screeners that they have access to so like yeah be ready for those uh episodes to be up and ready to go as soon as

[01:16:33] you've watched the episode and on youtube after it airs on amc they will be doing the uh immediate like reactions on youtube the live reaction videos so go check those out about 30 minutes

[01:16:44] after it's done airing on amc pop over to youtube and go check out whoever's talking about walking dead there i loved the first episode i thought it was really great it was a lot of

[01:16:54] kind of recap catching up on like where how do we get you know we had they had a lot of questions to answer and they spent most of the hour doing that but it also left us with a lot of really

[01:17:05] great new information new characters and i think it's gonna be quite a wild ride and i'm excited me too i'm so excited to have rick back on my tv screen and just the feel of this is a little bit

[01:17:19] different however there were things that happened in this episode that i was really happy about things that we got to see and the ending of the episode makes me even more excited because

[01:17:32] i thought oh yeah it might take a little longer to get to that point but it didn't yeah so i'm excited to watch that and listen along to lucy and jason it was it was so great hearing their voices back

[01:17:47] in my heads in my heads all multiple heads that i had it was great hearing their voices back in my head back in the the car radio and uh then breaking down walking dead stuff again it's just

[01:17:59] it feels like home it feels like the old days right yes it just feels like yeah it's familiar yeah but then other great stuff going on of course we had the rewatch series that are kicking it

[01:18:12] going strong as well with revisited with ben and christin going through ted lasso and this week they are on season two episode nine beard after hours if you know you know that episode is a

[01:18:23] wild ride and it's so oh it's it's it's crazy for dead lasso and yeah it's a great one so definitely check that out and then cara and penny still slaying on still slaying going through season three of

[01:18:37] buffy in its entirety this week on episode 10 amends so if you're a buffy fan definitely go check them out as well they are killing it as over there big time and then lastly for podcast

[01:18:50] always gotta give a shout out for the bi weekly and that's every two weeks because it means like a word mean two very different things and you have to always yes you ruin the time it takes you to

[01:19:03] have a word for a thing if you didn't have to explain which version of that word you mean every time um anyway but yes uh welcome to the apocalypse the improv comedy podcast

[01:19:15] with uh randy and jenny and uh rob over there love it so much i really do healing it it's it's so good like i don't even want to give too much away but like you just get this like fun

[01:19:31] cast of characters that they play plus different guests and stuff coming in to play other characters and it's hilarious it's just quite the odd bunch surviving in the apocalypse and coming across all kinds of crazy shenanigans and meeting all kinds of crazy people it's a blast

[01:19:47] and i look forward to it every single time they're dropping a new episode i cannot wait to listen i wish it came out every week because when i see it's in my feed i know it's gonna be such a

[01:19:59] fun listen and it goes by way too fast yeah it's the only podcast in my rotation that i don't listen to at 1.5 speed i slow it down me too because yeah i gotta live in the world with

[01:20:13] them i don't want it going by too fast absolutely uh but yeah so lots of great podcastica stuff but then outside of podcastica we do want to give our friends over at tv podcast industries

[01:20:23] some love in that network and stuff they've been doing over there with those podcasts because they just celebrated 10 years of podcasting over there on tv podcast industries wow it's a huge milestone for any network and podcast so that's awesome congrats to derrick and john and and

[01:20:42] chris when he's in there and stuff with him just like oh man it's it's wonderful congrats guys 10 years is awesome 10 years i mean we'll be coming up on four this summer and i feel like it's going

[01:20:52] so fast right and that's not just like 10 years of one podcast a week every now and then taking breaks sometimes that's like they are putting out like two or three episodes a week sometimes

[01:21:04] when it gets really busy they are covering everything and they just work so hard over there so if you haven't checked out tv podcast industries go give them some love especially right now because

[01:21:14] they are working through the final season of the bad batch over on disney plus the star wars animated series and the fx series show gun that just started they covered the first two episodes

[01:21:24] of that so make sure to go check that out as well i think it's a reboot of a of an old series like maybe from the 70s or 80s but i don't know if it's a direct reboot or if it's a different

[01:21:36] story but yeah i'm glad they're covering it yeah i don't know much about it it's been getting a lot of buzz and it will probably wind up on my list very soon i've been the oscars are next weekend

[01:21:49] i've been really like boggling down on trying to get all of my oscar death race watches going on but as soon as oscars are done i have time freed up to like get into some other stuff i

[01:21:58] want to watch so show guns probably on that list i need to jump into avatar on netflix the last air bender because that one's just fun and yeah so a lot of things i need to just like check out and

[01:22:08] watch but oscars take presents it's almost overpaked almost there i'm on the home stretch your second christmas of the year for the first christmas of the year for you the oscars are taking place very soon you will know who's winning and you'll be freed up yeah so yeah

[01:22:25] check out all of that great stuff but make sure you do come back here next week to run for your lives because we've got a fun one for you daffy what are we doing well when a new breed of airborne

[01:22:36] predators threatens the world as they know it only a ragtag group of unlikely heroes stands between humanity and the jaws of destruction yes we're going there we are finally discussing sharknado the 2013 film that started a franchise we're doing it it's sharknado it's one of the

[01:22:58] first movies like when we first developed and started doing this podcast it was like Jurassic park and cloverfield and tremors and like yeah like the the monster movies and stuff that we started with in that first season and i was like even the ridiculous stuff like sharknado

[01:23:13] we got to do and then it's just like set there in our back pocket for four years and it's like it's time it is it's time it's time for us to do it i think that uh our fans who love the shark

[01:23:28] movie coverage that we do are going to be really excited uh all i will say is there are there's a lot of laughter it's it's really yeah it's quite humorous yeah one thing that paik and i can tell you

[01:23:46] is we were guests on another podcast last week talking tremors and so if you want to check that out you can go ahead it's on spotify and i think apple podcast um but yeah we talked with

[01:24:02] levi about tremors and a whole bunch of other stuff like podcasting and trips and fun stuff yeah yeah if you're a fan of tremor stuff like you know i am and then also just great banter and

[01:24:17] conversation uh then yeah check out talking tremors the the podcast there because levi does a great job of not only talking tremors but then just talking in general they do their research

[01:24:29] really well oh even just us and like there's a lot of personal questions and conversation that went on and we had a blast talking to them it was great we did i loved that i messaged them just to tell

[01:24:43] them that it was such a blast and the time went by so fast and the questions were really fun but tremors was like an underlying thread throughout the whole conversation yeah so it was

[01:24:58] tons of fun but with that we've reached the end of our episode pake right thanks everyone for listening i'm dafney and i'm pate and if you have to run you better run for your lives bye