Run For Your Lives Podcast Episode 181: Abigail

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome to the show. I'm Daphne. And I'm Pake. And this is the Run For Your Lives Podcast. This episode is the horror comedy film. I wouldn't have ever thought

[00:00:45] of it as a comedy like the way it was marketed and looked at, but after I watched this there's several notes where I just said, wait this is funny. This is a comedy. Definitely. But yes the movie Abigail was directed by Matt Bettenley-Ulpin and Tyler Gillett and released

[00:00:58] April 19th 2024. Yes. This was my choice for this week and I'm glad I picked it because honestly I didn't realize it was going to be a comedy until I was putting the doc together before I

[00:01:14] watched it and I thought about it. I'm like, what do you mean it's a comedy? Because that's not how it was marketed. Honestly the little girl, the way that they were marketing it,

[00:01:28] it made me think a little bit of the little girl ballet dancer from Cabin in the Woods. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know about this but yeah, I definitely laughed. There were some things in it that I thought were great.

[00:01:47] Just several moments where especially as I'm taking notes like that I had to just pause it just to laugh for a minute and be like, that was ridiculous and amazing and I love it. So many good thoughts on that.

[00:02:01] You know, I've really been waiting for these directors to come out with something else because everyone knows I loved Ready or Not. It's a great, fun film with a lot of gore.

[00:02:16] This one was very similar. I did not see either of the screen movies they did but I really have just been waiting for them to do something in the vein of Ready or Not and I feel like this one ticked the boxes for sure.

[00:02:33] Yeah. So speaking of them, I mentioned this on Strange and Deed but by the time people are listening to this that was like a month or so ago. So there's more episodes of it

[00:02:46] out now which I'm curious to see what they are but I'm going to listen to it. But there is a new podcast that I definitely need people to check out. I still haven't listened to it yet because it's a little different than just driving around and listening to

[00:02:57] it but as you know me and especially me and Remo on Strange and Deed we are definitely members of the Church of Flanagan. She needs fans of Mike Flanagan and so Mike Flanagan himself has just launched a new podcast. It is called Director's Commentary with Mike

[00:03:16] Flanagan and it's literally him sitting down with directors of movies and watching the movie in real time, it's actually like a track you could watch along and listen to them so it's like a director's commentary. Okay. And the first two episodes because

[00:03:32] the first one is just an interview between Mike and his guests and then the second episode of the podcast which is also still like episode one where he actually watching along a movie and that first movie that he's covering is Ready or Not alongside that Nellie Open and

[00:03:49] Tyler Hillett. So I'm excited to rewatch Ready or Not listening to Mike Flanagan, Matt and Tyler have like some extra background stuff to talk about it throughout the movie. I'm excited about that. That's gonna be really cool. And I'm sure the first episode is just

[00:04:07] like a Radio Silence interview because that's like apparently I'm reading it like the bio on the episode right now on my Spotify but Radio Silence is a collective of TV and film

[00:04:17] creatives who blend horror with comedy in a way that is entirely their own and it is helmed by Matt and Tyler. Here they run that collective and they do stuff with that. And so I'm sure he's

[00:04:29] gonna talk about all of that and the work that they've done there plus their other movies are gonna talk about a little bit about Ready or Not, the Scream stuff and Abigail since it's their

[00:04:36] newest project. So I'm excited to listen to those. That one I could listen to while driving around soon but then Ready or Not, I'm gonna have to sit and watch along in this one.

[00:04:44] I know. Oh my gosh. Like I need another reason to watch Ready or Not again. I definitely am gonna do that. That is huge. I did see that Flanagan had launched a podcast

[00:04:59] but I did not realize that Matt and Tyler were on it. So gonna have to check that out. So I'm really excited to talk about this one. There are some great things in it and

[00:05:14] yeah, I have lots of thoughts and I dug up a few little tidbits here and there that I can share that were interesting but not a surprise really because Matt and Tyler, the way that they do

[00:05:27] their movies, it's an immersive experience for the actors that are involved. So I'm excited to talk about this. So we should kick it off the way that we always do with some production

[00:05:40] notes. It was filmed in Dublin, Ireland and they used the famous Guinness Manor for most of the filming. Usually they would go into a studio and film a lot of the parts and pieces. They did not. They actually used the house for a lot of the internal shots.

[00:06:01] The directors, Matt and Tyler, refer to Abigail as quote Ready or Not on steroids. Mm-hmm. That's a good. A budget was 28 million, worldwide gross was 42.4 million. It's 109 minutes long. Paik, bring us the synopsis. All right. After a group of criminals kidnapped the

[00:06:25] ballerina daughter of a powerful underworld figure, they retreat to an isolated mansion unaware that they're locked inside with no normal little girl. Ah yes. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. Abigail. She wasn't the main character despite this movie being named for her. I don't think she was the

[00:06:48] main character really. I don't know. Yes and no. This is one of those when we get to the end of the season where it's going to be another Dan and Abra or Nomona situation where it's like, yeah. It's like equally I think main in my eyes because

[00:07:10] it's like this movie doesn't exist without that character. Oh, definitely not. I loved the opening too with Swan Lake. Mm-hmm. And she did all of the dancing. She learned ballet and she did all of her own stunts. Like that was her. That's incredible. I know we'll get into

[00:07:30] character notes and stuff when we get to Abigail, but yeah no I had to just to jump ahead a little bit on that with just this note of Alicia where this kid. Oh my god. I was like, holy crap,

[00:07:44] where did they find her? Like she is incredible. She's got that maniacal energy and look down Pat, the movement. Like she knows what she's doing. She's incredible. And so I had to look, you know as I always do IMDb's my friends and they're like, okay, what are we,

[00:08:02] what are other projects? Where would I know somebody from? What else can I check out? And she's done a few other projects, not a lot. A few other little horror movies and then some

[00:08:12] other. She's an Irish actress as well. A lot of, I could tell you just like, yeah it was filmed in Ireland because I'm reading the credits as they're rolling at the end of

[00:08:19] the movie and I'm like, look at all these Irish names. But yeah so a lot of like Irish films and like kids stuff she's done which is crazy. She's run the game and then like some horror movies.

[00:08:30] But the biggest one that stuck out to me which I haven't watched it maybe I should check it out is she stars in the Netflix, the new Netflix adaptation, the Matilda, the music she is Matilda

[00:08:40] and I'm like never had any interest in that before but I might have to watch that. I don't know. Like see a very different side of Alicia. Definitely and they were really, the directors

[00:08:51] are really impressed with her dancing and so they added more to the film so that she could do more cool things. I mean last time I saw a child character so nimble it was either the grudge

[00:09:03] or the ring. I mean this was intense. She did such a great job and one of the cool things that they did, Alicia Weir referred to the kidnapped version of her character as Abby

[00:09:19] and this predatory version the vampire as Abigail. So that's how she was able to separate them into two different people so that she could portray both sides and she altered her voice too to make

[00:09:37] it sound more confident like this adult version of the character because as a vampire she's been alive a very long time. Yeah. So yeah there's so much to talk about with this. This was either

[00:09:52] a strange indeed or run for your lives is just like one of the small little things that comes with doing these podcasts is somehow I've found a lot of younger actors and actresses

[00:10:04] and stuff like a lot of kid actors that I'm like holy cow they're like really good and I've found some like careers to like keep an eye on a little bit. Yeah. Like where do we go from here?

[00:10:14] Definitely. Yeah Alicia Weir, I mean you just, this movie doesn't hit the same without her in that role. I just think she nailed it and I don't know if you watched all the way till

[00:10:32] the end but there was maniacal laughing at the end so could we get a sequel? I had that thought and I'm like I don't know if I want one. Yeah I don't know what it would be, it would have to be

[00:10:44] worth something and where do you go with this story from there? I don't think you go anywhere, I don't think you can, I think you leave it alone. She's finally getting attention from her

[00:10:56] father which Matthew Goode in that role was just perfect just in that tiny bit that we got to see him. Oh my god but we're gonna kick it off the way we always deal with characters. I should mention

[00:11:12] before we jump in that the cast for this movie was pretty interesting. Yeah because I jumped in blind on this to where yeah the cast kind of caught me off guard it's not what I was expecting for it to

[00:11:27] be this stacked and awesome. Yeah this was one of the last movies that Angus Clive did before he passed away. We had John Carlo Esposito as Lambert who we didn't see that much of but

[00:11:41] wow that's cool. Kevin Durand as Peter was one of my favorite parts. A major highlight of this movie for me. So good so fun yeah. Yeah and then also I mean the character Frank Dan Stevens,

[00:11:55] Dan freaking Stevens. I know. I love him so much too and so yeah as much as I love him immediately I was like oh I'm gonna hate this character so much like in a good way in a good way.

[00:12:06] Catherine Newton as Sammy she was in this movie called Freaky which was a body swapping movie with Vince Vaughn. She's been in a host of other things too. Yeah I mean it really was a stacked

[00:12:22] cast and I wasn't expecting it either because I went in pretty blind. The only thing I knew was that it was supposedly a comedy in addition to being a horror movie and I wasn't sure.

[00:12:37] I didn't realize who the directors were so yeah I was expecting just a straight up like horror movie. Horror thriller survival kind of movie was not I was caught off guard by the

[00:12:51] humor to where about halfway through I'm like laughing enough to was like this is a comedy wait a minute what is happening? I love this. Yeah there were lots of funny moments throughout. Okay so Abigail is a main character I think the other main character is Joey

[00:13:09] played by Melissa Barrera who had worked with the directors on two of the screen movies the two screen movies that they did. So I think those are really the two main characters. I mean if

[00:13:24] we go through this from Abigail's perspective it's not going to be quite as deep just because a lot more happened with the other characters and Abigail was in a room by herself. Not completely just in the room because we learned that she can do lots of things.

[00:13:47] Yeah. So how do we want to kick it off? Yeah I mean we can start with Joey I'll be honest like I don't have a ton of notes for her because a lot of it is if we get introduced to the character and then a lot of

[00:14:02] us just kind of a group effort of things that they're doing with Abigail kind of attacking them and chasing them so like as far as like her story like it's very quick for me to

[00:14:14] kind of just throw in a couple notes and then it's like beginning and end. There's not much of a middle for her in my notes but the good chunk of my notes do go to Abigail because I just kind

[00:14:24] of a lot of the really great action scenes and sequences and moments I give to her in my notes. So good honestly all I could think at the whole time was don't you day I kill her off

[00:14:36] because she's great even though she's I guess the bad guy I didn't view her as the absolute bad guy. That's what was interesting about this because they're all anti-heroes in a way. I mean like

[00:14:49] Abigail's reasoning for what she did it's not like pure it's not that like oh these people are like bad people who hurt others I mean some of them are for sure but like her

[00:15:04] reasonings for why she chose them were more because you went against me in the family like it was still a very selfish like you know she's not out for the greater good of humanity in any way or form.

[00:15:15] She's still running a crime family. Yes at some point they kept talking about her dad and I just kept wondering does her father really exist or is this really just her? Is she really running

[00:15:29] everything through a puppet? I don't know. I really don't. I yeah. So even Joey is like the other main character that like you're rooting for and you want to you know even at the end of the

[00:15:42] movie you're glad that she makes it out and then she's gonna go back to her son and do all of these things but she's not a good person either not a good character like she's got a good heart and

[00:15:51] like she's mostly good but if you really boil it down to the point she's taking a job to kidnap a child for ransom because you know whether it's because of her like hardships in life and stuff

[00:16:02] but she's still making a choice to do a job like this so it's not that she's a good person either really. Right the thing is though she took a job to kidnap someone she did not know it was a child

[00:16:13] at first. Because that makes a world of difference you know. Well I mean. With your moral standing I mean yes and like it's yeah. I agree but she seemed surprised when they were at the

[00:16:28] house getting what a child you didn't tell me it was a child I mean and we're talking about a team of people who do not even know each other's names they don't they're a team of people put together

[00:16:40] by Lambert to kidnap this child of a very shady character basically someone that you don't want to kidnap their child. Yeah but we learn later on that there is something much deeper at play here

[00:17:00] than what we knew but in the beginning Joey is part of this group of people that are kidnapping Abigail who is a dancer who had been practicing at night swan lake she gets home I believe she's

[00:17:18] talking to her dad everyone gets into the house like it everybody on this team has a role. We have a hacker Sammy the hacker like everyone has a role a getaway driver

[00:17:33] and muscle and a mastermind I guess I'm not sure what you would call him Frank but he's definitely the leader of the group is one really putting the like plan together and yeah making sure everybody was doing what they're supposed to do he was the

[00:17:53] the ringleader the corralor of what was going on and they needed a corralor. Yeah they really none of them really knew each other before this job so they're able to pull it off.

[00:18:07] Joey seemed surprised that it was a child but she agreed to go along with it I thought the tension between Joey and Frank was interesting because I started to think maybe they did know

[00:18:19] each other and then it's clear that they didn't know each other but I mean he basically tells her not to cross him again yeah like he was serious. Yeah and that was because Joey seemed a little

[00:18:36] uneasy like we mentioned about it being a child but then still does it but like right from the get go Frank was very ruthless and cold where he was like that doesn't change anything for me

[00:18:46] let's still do it and then like yeah that's kind of their first little tiff with each other was the fact that she stopped Frank from retaliating and like punching this child after being stabbed in the

[00:18:56] hand. Yes and have feisty Abigail I love that right from the beginning we're talking about a kid and she is fighting back at this point we don't know anything about her other than she's a ballet

[00:19:10] dancer she just got home. I mean I did know because I've seen images and synopsis of this movie so I knew but trying to put yeah but like try to put yourself in that head space. Yeah if I pretend I didn't

[00:19:24] know then it's like okay she's a like 12 year old girl who's being abducted and she's fighting back that's great good for her. Yeah and so they pull this off and they go away to this is it

[00:19:35] Wilhelm Manor? I don't know. Yeah that was the name of the house I started wondering if we were gonna hear a scream at some point that we did not um they travel to Wilhelm Manor

[00:19:48] go in Lambert meets them Joey is put in charge of watching over Abigail she's the one that's going to go in and take care of her they wanted there to be one voice that she got comfortable

[00:20:02] with because she's supposed to be wearing a blindfold however Joey fails the assignments basically. Yeah I was like you know Joey seems like mostly a good person again it's like you're still kidnapping a kid so you're not great but you know maybe you've got

[00:20:22] this son that I thought maybe she's trying to support but then even learns like no she's not even supporting him in any way like it's no she's not great uh maybe this helps her get back

[00:20:33] on a better path but yeah she's the one interacting with Abigail but I was like yeah it's like she seems like she's got a good heart somewhere in there but she's not good at this job how did she

[00:20:43] hit this role it's like she's just the first thing she does she goes in there and starts bonding with the kid that they kidnapped and let me tell you all about my son and let's take off the

[00:20:53] blindfold and all the handcuffs hurting you let's resituate yeah let's make sure you're comfortable you need anything you want to know any information let's just chat and it's yep uh

[00:21:05] you're not good at this I mean which I guess if this was a normal child it's good that somebody was there being nice yeah caring about her well-being and like promising her the pinky promise

[00:21:17] and I'm not gonna let anybody hurt you which I'm gonna go ahead and jump ahead a little bit when that came back at the end I did get a teeny bit emotional about that I was like

[00:21:24] the pinky promise yes yeah because despite the fact that spoiler alert Abigail is a vampire and she's been a child for a very long time she did go back to that pinky promise and there was

[00:21:40] that little bit in there you know she could not have defeated Frank without her help there's no way yeah Frank was just diabolical yeah which I you know we they brought them together we've

[00:21:59] talked about a little bit you know that she's kidnapped for the plan is she's kidnapped for ransom and then they have to keep her here and then I guess defend the place from whoever might

[00:22:09] know where they are and show up to try to come for her they don't know that it's apparently Kristoff Lazar's daughter yeah at one point I called it the Belko kidnapping

[00:22:21] right it felt like that with the windows the shades coming up and stuff and you're like oh yeah see that before a few times recently yes um yeah but they don't know each other and they can't

[00:22:33] they're not supposed to know the back stories which the first thing they do is sit around and drink and tell each other the back stories so none of them are very good at this are they

[00:22:40] they're definitely not but one cool thing about that the actors were actually involved in creating their characters and the back stories that's cool because Dan Stevens Frank's real name was Adam

[00:22:54] Barrett and it was when he came up with the name and it was a nod to Adam Wingard and Simon Barrett who were director and writer of The Guest which is a decent movie and a little movie that we

[00:23:06] haven't covered yet here called Godzilla X Kong the new empire so yeah well we'll get to that one soon because yeah Dan Stevens also yeah he's in that so yeah yeah so they can't share their names with

[00:23:22] each other and so like that you know Lambert gives them names and there's just a pack of rats and that was great I love that reference love the names because then it made sense because I was

[00:23:32] like oh the names Frank Frank Sinatra Sammy Davis Jr. Dean Martin Joey Bishop Peter Loughard and then Don Rickles gets thrown in I mean Don Rickles was like a peripheral member of the rat pack

[00:23:45] he was really good friends with Frank Sinatra and I mean at least you know he could have been Angie they could have given him Angie for Dick and Angie Dickinson yeah you know but no they didn't

[00:23:54] Rickles is what they gave him it's interesting though because if you think about rat pack think about them being trapped in this house like rats yeah like they're they're trapped in there they you know secret passages and things exist in there um there are different clever little tie-ins

[00:24:16] like that that I really appreciated yeah it was cool uh Dean thought that he was an expert at reading people um but guess not he's actually terrible Joey Joey was the one that was actually

[00:24:30] really good at reading people for some reason I don't know why just an army medic has that kind of you know skills of deduction but you know sure uh well she didn't get to bring home her cut

[00:24:43] a 50 million but she did get to bring home what 220 that she won by correctly guessing people's like they're yeah something about them that was true yeah yeah she was good at that she quickly

[00:24:58] nails that Frank was an ex detective for the police and then she quickly reads all the other ones but then Frank again also very great great deductionist hits her right back with the like oh yeah and

[00:25:11] you're an addict it's like great you know yep see them at odds like the whole movie they were right from the beginning I think um which built to a great climax at the end

[00:25:25] with the battle between her and Frank and also her and Abigail against Frank yeah so it kind of built the whole way through because you weren't really sure at least I wasn't really sure

[00:25:40] I thought Frank was probably bad but I wasn't sure how bad until we got to the end when greed really set in for him yeah um I mean and Joey took a beating like many times trying to protect

[00:25:57] Abigail from Frank and even uh Peter at one point so much so that they got super distracted when Abigail was you know taking her cuffs off getting ready to attack them and scream

[00:26:14] yeah which I tried to find information on where the sounds came from because that was so cool um but yeah I like that again it's Abigail note but you know you bring it up yeah I like that

[00:26:25] word that's the moment where things really take that turn where yeah they're just arguing and yelling at each other and what's going on and then they're like oh yeah and I like that you brought out that like Alicia where the actors even said like she played like two

[00:26:39] characters yep and you can see the change in them where instead of the scared little girl huddled on the bed like oh no she just like her face changes her body language changes everything

[00:26:49] she just pulls off the cuffs and stands up and it's just like all right enough of this shit it's time to go vampire like let's just yeah um I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I need to take more of these people out uh this is just

[00:27:03] ballerina vampire yeah I love that right that was so fun they I love that she even says to Joey I'm sorry about what's going to happen to you because at first you're thinking her dad's gonna come in and do something yeah yeah and that's that's what Joey

[00:27:24] was convinced what that meant yeah you know she was just like oh it's like who is her dad because I believe that dad is a legit threat she is threatening that somebody's gonna come in here

[00:27:37] and kill all of us it's not exactly what she meant but um yeah no which then I did wonder I was like because she's being nice to her I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like

[00:27:52] because she's being nice to her again because I I knew sort of what was going on I knew what Abigail was yeah so I was like because Joey's being nice to her is she gonna spare Joey in the end which

[00:28:03] it does end up working that way but not that wasn't her plan initially because you even know with that line with that line of I'm sorry about what's going to happen to you I was like

[00:28:14] no I guess not it's still no her life is still on you know on the table um yeah it I think over time it Abigail needed Joey to defeat Frank at the end she couldn't have done it herself

[00:28:39] I don't think it was a plan for her to let Joey walk but she Abigail even had to fight or yell at her dad no don't hurt her she you know helped me

[00:28:51] yeah because he was ready to like have lunch or dinner time I guess it was getting close to dinner time yeah yeah which we yeah that's the last note I have on Joey I have more but that is the

[00:29:05] last one that I have is is Lazar showing up but we'll talk about it you know Abigail yeah convincing him to spare Joey even there's like there's that bond there which you know makes

[00:29:15] it seem like oh the end of the movie it's like oh she goes back and you just assume it's like oh and then she goes and finds her son and you know starts a new life and everything's happy ever after

[00:29:24] for Joey but I don't think so yeah I don't know I have a sneaking suspicion and it's because the last thing that Abigail says is see you like you know uh see you later Joey or see you soon

[00:29:38] see yeah where it's like there's still a crime family and no witnesses or no like people don't get to know the truth about them and then just walk right so they'll let her live I get a feeling

[00:29:50] that she's not free of them no they're they're reaching back out to her is like okay now that you know what's going on and you've proved your worth now you work for us like I'm writing this

[00:30:00] whole like script of a movie that shouldn't exist but like I was like if there was a sequel it'd be a very different movie because now it would be Joey working for the vampire crime family

[00:30:11] like I feel like that's really what her future becomes after this that's the vibe I get yeah I think she might think that she's very but I don't I mean look at what happened with Lambert

[00:30:23] we learned that he despite thinking he was on his own he was definitely not on his own everything he did had to do with Abigail and her father and the crime family and so well I don't think they

[00:30:41] would turn her into a vampire they definitely can hold it over her head that they could hurt Caleb her son if she didn't comply and Abigail knew already that her son's name was Caleb so it's like

[00:30:58] did she know because she knew everything or did she know because she oh yeah I think she's done yeah she knew the story about her abandoning her son and yep Abigail has done her research that's how

[00:31:11] she picked these people it is not this isn't the first time she's done this anybody who has wronged her family this is not the first time she's this is a game she plays she does her research

[00:31:21] it's it's saw I did I called it the saw twist because that's literally what it was is like you've all been brought here because of something you did in your past and you've got to figure out

[00:31:31] what it is like that's what it was to an extent like it gave me those vibes it also gave me lights out vibes a little bit um it gave me ready or not vibes obviously I mean it's

[00:31:47] a huge house and it's about escaping and surviving um but I don't yeah I don't I have to agree with you I think that Joey definitely does not get to walk off into the sunset and no right as a favor

[00:32:10] Abigail and her father probably help her reunite with her son and give her everything that she could ever want at a price at a price yeah I mean will she have to be the one to pull in

[00:32:23] folks to for Abigail to have her fun because again at one point in in the middle of the movie I was just like wow um I'm starting I started to wonder if maybe this whole thing was just a ruse by her

[00:32:42] dad before things really took off I thought oh so maybe her dad planned the whole kidnapping to give her a fun night out where she can go and feast because it seemed like something that maybe

[00:32:54] he would do I I don't know the other vibes they gave me was um oh my god name the movies escaping me it Ellie Eli oh let's let's let's yeah yeah let the right one in it gave me those vibes too

[00:33:15] but all in a good way like I thought that this was this was honestly a pleasant surprise I think overall um yeah I didn't know what to expect going into this I like I said I figured it would be

[00:33:30] one thing and it ended up being something different similar to like I was like yes that base idea is there but the way that they went about it was very different and I thoroughly enjoyed this movie

[00:33:42] I think it was a fun watch it was it definitely was um John Carlo Esposito does creepy very well as does Kevin Durand but his wasn't at first I thought his I thought Peter was gonna be more

[00:33:59] creepy than he ended up being he ended up being just more fun and I was kind of sad when he died I'm like please don't kill him he was fun kill Frank gosh did you react like Sammy or possessed Sammy oh no

[00:34:15] she got him oh my god no no I didn't I thought that was kind of ridiculous yeah John Carlo Esposito yeah is incredible at the creepy mastermind of things and it's a niche that he does very well

[00:34:32] whether he's playing Gus Fring in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul or he's playing and you know he's was it Moff Gideon in The Mandalorian or even his role in The Boys um

[00:34:47] that's just that's what he does yeah he does it well he was also on a show called Revolution where he also played a very creepy character so yeah he does it well it's his he's he's good

[00:35:01] that and then little name drop moment I've met John Carlo Esposito and and talked to him before and he's the kindest person he's so sweet but even talking to him even when he's being nice to

[00:35:13] you there is this air of like what are you about to do like he's it is just because it's just his mannerisms and the way he talks like you're just like I'm still a little unsettled even though

[00:35:25] you're very nice and I'm having a great conversation I'm still unsteady like I'm still like oh what are you capable of he's just got that personality which is really cool though which means he

[00:35:35] does his job very well yes absolutely yeah yeah Joey I'm not sure I really have much else to say about Joey I feel like the rest of what I have is Abigail and a bunch of other little notes

[00:35:51] and quotes from different characters that made me laugh because there were things that was just like uh can you be any more obvious um so why don't we dive a bit into Abigail if you want yeah um I've

[00:36:07] got a few little extra just notes on Joey uh I said just kind of thrown in randomly uh as far as you had the blindfold we talked about like I mean they're taking that off it's like I knew that was

[00:36:19] gonna come back to bite her like very quickly yeah and you see what Frank walks in he's like oh my god everything's ruined uh just locked eyes with this girl and it's all out the window now way to go

[00:36:31] I liked her using the glare from the sun off of the silver plate to make me go boom and then I had a note which this was just kind of fun for me and I was wrong but I'm still going

[00:36:44] to do it anyway I paused it during the fight where Joey gets bitten and then Frank is like and now you're gonna become my puppet and like she kind of gets him and he's like grab the stick and

[00:36:57] then I paused it and I said before it happens I'm making a prediction I was wrong but I'm still going to tell you what I thought that I what it wasn't right um I said Abigail somehow got Joey

[00:37:06] first and bit her first and she's actually being puppeted by Abigail oh how cool I thought that was gonna be a thing uh or if Abigail bit her first and even if she's not being puppeted

[00:37:19] because somebody another vampire got her first Frank couldn't control her and so then she's just playing along to kill him and then I was like or Joey was already a vampire the whole time

[00:37:31] and I was like no that that doesn't check out at all she's been here the whole time yeah but no uh it really it ended up being something kind of dumber but in a good way like to it

[00:37:42] is funny instead it's just like you just haven't learned how to do that yet like oh my god her takes time yeah the thing about being a vampire is it takes a long time to learn how to do the cool

[00:37:55] shit yeah and hearing a little girl say that it was just oh my god there's a few moments like that where it's just like they let her just have at it with the language which is fun I always

[00:38:07] there's there is something really funny about adorable innocent little kids just spouting off a string of curse words uh you know maybe that's why because you know I already have such a soft spot

[00:38:22] in my heart I love Christian Convery from Sweet Tooth and then to watch cocaine bear and be like the mouth on that kid and I love it I love it yeah I really the dialogue I mean any most of Abigail's

[00:38:40] adult dialogue for vampire Abigail was pretty amazing like just the quotes just trying to pick a couple it was really difficult because they were the dialogue was great and the way that she delivered it

[00:38:57] and all with the body contorting and dancing I love how they implemented dance like everything she did was dancing and it's very cool yeah it was so awesome yeah and then the last thing

[00:39:11] was just a vampire lore thing that I got stuck in that doesn't matter at all but maybe you'd find it interesting um because Joey gets bitten right and then after they they kill Frank and

[00:39:23] she's like well what what's gonna happen with this now and Abigail tells her oh you're fine now because Frank is dead and it's like okay so and a lot of vampire lore if a vampire dies anybody that

[00:39:37] they turned also dies in some yes there's there's there's lore that does that and I was like there and I was like well maybe she hasn't actually turned yet because it takes time as we saw

[00:39:49] with Sammy so maybe that lore could still apply but then I thought about it and I was like no that lore still doesn't apply in this world because Frank turned and then killed Lambert who is the vampire

[00:39:59] who turned him and he was still alive so it's like never mind so maybe it's somewhere between those so I was still trying to figure out why she's okay and I think the answer is just

[00:40:07] it hadn't had time to to infect and set in yet in some lore I think is it Salem's lot in one in other movies if you kill the person that bit you you'll return to normal

[00:40:25] so it really depends on what and that one still didn't apply either because again Frank right so but I found it very interesting that when Lambert turned Frank he bit Frank and then had Frank

[00:40:43] drink his blood yeah and I think what the movie was setting up is there's a difference you can turn somebody into a mindless vampire that you can use as a puppet if you just bite them and then leave

[00:40:54] it at that if you have that ability if you've learned how to do that as Abigail has and then I think if you're actually trying to turn somebody into a full-on vampire of their own with

[00:41:06] their own agency that can then go on and do stuff then you have to do it that classic you bite then have them suck the blood of the vampire because you've seen that in a bunch of stuff too so yeah

[00:41:17] I think twilight I would know I did I was I was gonna name some other things that I've seen but then it would be spoilers for those things because some of those things the fact that

[00:41:27] it's a vampire thing is a like twist so that's you're being very careful and I know that it's appreciated by those who are conscientious about spoilers I did find it quite funny when they were

[00:41:41] talking about how to deal with Abigail Sammy brought up well what kind of vampire is it is it Anne Rice is it true blood is it Twilight like what what is it well then Frank after Sammy gets bitten

[00:41:57] Frank is picking on Sammy over the walkies by he's like you know well Twilight and Peter are gonna go like calls her Twilight and then later it's like find anything yet and us for out to

[00:42:07] like just picking on her that way before she's even turned but she's scared that she will so he keeps calling her things like that and it's like it's kind of funny and she's not even there

[00:42:16] for the money really she's there for the fun of hacking and doing that because she's we find out that she's got tons of money yeah but she can't tell onions and garlic apart

[00:42:33] that that was the line that finally like really clicked with that I was like because that's again I'll read a quote like a note verbatim wait a minute this movie is legitimately hilarious

[00:42:47] and then I quote that Sammy those are fucking onions and I saw that bowl on the table that had garlic and onions on it and I'm like wow that's probably gonna come in handy at some point that was

[00:43:02] when Dean was hearing things and going to check it out which you should never do because it always ends badly but I did see that that bowl of onions what killed to me though

[00:43:16] is that I think it might have been Frank that said what no it was Peter that said what happened and Sammy said his head fell off and I'm like obviously his head fell off it's right there

[00:43:30] I'm like okay captain obvious there we go it killed me um I did think Dean was going to have his own baby driver moment when he was driving the getaway car because of the

[00:43:44] way that he drove up behind that truck to hide from the camera I'm like oh my god are we gonna get one of those because he already had music going I'm like is he gonna crank something up and we're

[00:43:55] gonna get some wild driving we didn't so no but now I want to watch baby driver so thanks I always want to watch baby driver always so it's never a bad idea to watch that you can

[00:44:09] always watch it it's wonderful only one of the best movies ever yeah ever ever not appreciated enough for how amazing it is yeah all right so now I think we can move on to Abigail

[00:44:26] okay you're good which we've covered some things but yeah it's again knowing sort of what was going on made a lot of things earlier better for me because yeah it was not exactly fun to watch

[00:44:38] a scene of a child being abducted by these strangers like no it's like I don't like that but then like it helps because I'm like I know what's going to happen later to some extent and I'm sure

[00:44:46] she's not going to seem so cute and innocent and helpless later so I think she'll be fine um she was feisty and she fought back and I loved that like I love that she was fighting back

[00:44:58] um but it wasn't fun I mean because all we really see of her at the beginning is she's dancing and her um driver picks her up and everything seems normal for her except we know

[00:45:12] what's going to happen because we could we see we're privy to the information um but she seems innocent enough but we learned she's a manipulator she manipulated Joey right from the start like the whole kidnapping was orchestrated by her she orchestrated her own

[00:45:32] kidnapping you don't see that very often no um to where even made it seem like with the flood lights was at first I was like oh whoever her dad is must be really wealthy because

[00:45:42] I gave him mansion with full flood light and siren security system but they still got away after that and then you're like well yeah because that was always the plan for her was that that

[00:45:53] was how it's going to go um yeah very feisty has those moments with Joey but then even then you're like oh she's just playing a role she's yeah she's she's she's playing a character and

[00:46:05] she's having a blast with it oh absolutely um I love her come back to Frank who was apologizing you know we're sorry we didn't know who you were we thought you were just a regular 12-year-old girl

[00:46:20] and she just fires back at him with you were you were going to beat in torture being when you thought I was just a regular a regular 12-year-old girl and it's like how does that make you any better

[00:46:35] like if anything then you deserve this more yes absolutely I loved the whole scene where she's in kind of in the elevator chamber or behind the bar the bar door and she is playing Frank

[00:46:52] like a fiddle telling him oh yeah and then there were none the book it's gonna get you what like she she knew exactly what she was doing this was all planned she's done it before

[00:47:06] yeah absolutely I mean obviously Sammy fell into a pit of bodies that were remnants of things oh the body room I mean any any good old house is gonna have one of those right

[00:47:20] evidently yeah I thought it is interesting though that her father was real as far as like there are all of the you know myths and rumors and stuff surrounding his abilities and methods and this

[00:47:37] like his you know enforcer named Valdez that that's named floats around ends up just being Abigail herself but like as soon as they hear that name like it strikes fear in all of them except

[00:47:50] for Sammy which like who's who's right which is interesting because then you've like find out later on she knows exactly who that is but she's been siphoning money from the family exactly

[00:48:02] so she was still in that moment even trying to play it off like I'm not scared yeah I don't know and plausible to my ability right uh I don't know what you're talking about

[00:48:12] but even Frank who is like the most cold-blooded calculated person you know you've ever seen was terrified for a moment like we fucked up he goes like we're all fucked yeah and he

[00:48:23] tries to leave like he he wants to leave and I'm just like okay so you don't have any further information like you're not further in on this whole ruse because you're wanting to leave

[00:48:38] and if you had more information you would have known more about this yeah and you would have stayed without any problem so that's when I knew he wasn't any further integrated into it

[00:48:52] well I thought was weird at first but then it makes sense with things that are revealed later because I was like why how did they choose this house because I was like it's this house is clearly in the Lazar family which seems like a terrible choice of location

[00:49:08] to hide the daughter of the family if you've kidnapped her um it's like there's paintings and statues of a father and young daughter who is clearly Abigail that are old it's like

[00:49:20] they're really bad at their jobs why did they choose this location and then later on it's like oh because she did uh her reason I mean she's got her dresses there she's got her own little

[00:49:30] stage it's perfect one of the funny things I found out is that Steven Shields who was the one of the writers said he made Abigail a ballerina because he's terrified of ballerinas and I've never heard of someone being afraid of a ballerina

[00:49:49] there is also so yeah cabin in the woods and black swan and this would be the movies he hates the most yep so inside the mansion there was a portrait I don't know if you noticed it

[00:50:02] of Tony Lidomas from ready or not so they kind of put that in there it's kind of like he's an ancestor I thought that was kind of cool how they tried to tie it in there

[00:50:17] those always those fun little things that they do to connect things that aren't really connected there's the Abigail tries to turn them on each other and then it doesn't go

[00:50:30] it doesn't get as violent as I think she wanted it to so that's when she decided just like reveal but there was that moment because you know like oh well Joey said you know told uh Frank that you

[00:50:40] know or no Joe uh Abigail told Joey that Frank told her there's a lot of yeah lots of telling yeah that he was Valdez and it's like he never said that no she's just trying to pit them against

[00:50:53] each other and see how that plays out and it was just those like clever little monster moments she's been doing this a long time she's had a long time to put together what works best and I think like you said earlier I think she just had enough

[00:51:08] almost like okay you people you're being ridiculous we're gonna fast forward down to to the cool shit yeah which is funny you know like I guess so some things work and some things don't with like the vampire lore which they played with that because like obviously the steak

[00:51:27] the wooden stake definitely worked we got some vampire deaths with that oh my gosh yeah and the sunlight still definitely affects them but then other things don't which is funny because then

[00:51:39] you know uh Abigail shanking the hell out of Peter with a cross necklace with a tiny cross necklace yeah it's like she shouldn't even be able to hold that it would burn her skin

[00:51:48] but no that's that's that's a hurtful stereotype just like the garlic she just sniffed steep on the garlic like thanks I guess um you know there's one point where she like gets blood on her hand from

[00:52:02] I think from doing the stabbing and then just wipes it on her face like yeah that was the moment that I was like this kid's incredible yep she knows what she's doing uh and they're like you

[00:52:13] know they all walk back out of that room you know Frank's been stabbed through the leg and there's all these little punctures all over Peter's chest and Joey's just standing there with her candy

[00:52:23] like a bag on popcorn just like and what did we learn yep again she wasn't going to go try to kill her I think she had I mean she proved she was right they were ridiculous yeah trying to do that

[00:52:39] I think Frank over the radio is like can she turn into a rat because if so I'm looking right at her and they don't answer that question but honestly I think it's not a bad guess it's left open maybe

[00:52:50] she can be because it would track because that's the only thing we saw with Dean's death was the rat standing there in the room and then we heard a sound and then he turned around and yeah that

[00:53:00] was it yeah so maybe she can I don't know yeah poor Dean his head fell off the end for Dean yeah uh yeah and then Abigail had some great moments the the just fantastic jump down the stairwell

[00:53:21] perfect 10 was wonderful loved that just walking on the banister like or the railing it was just like for real I had to go look it up because I thought she legit had been training as a ballerina

[00:53:36] and no she learned this so I don't know if she had taken some dance classes before and this was just enhanced by her learning ballet on top of it um but she nailed it I like I said I loved the way

[00:53:52] that dance was incorporated into this and the use of swan lake and um all of that I just thought was great yeah yeah speaking of the language uh moment where she gets injected with the drug

[00:54:06] the second time before they put her in that location and I'll rip your fucking heads off and gorge myself on your blood you know after nap yep uh it's so funny how she switched back

[00:54:20] and forth between that character between Abby and Abigail it I yeah it was it was great yeah yeah I mentioned the saw twist like I said which I wrote down kind of their like backgrounds we have

[00:54:36] Sammy Jesse who siphoned money from the Lazar family Peter Terrence who also stole money from the family after leaving as hired muscle we have Frank Adam who infiltrated the Lazars as an

[00:54:50] undercover cop a detective and then turned on them and it's like that was his job but then he also found a way to profit himself while doing that so yep that was where that came in and then Joey

[00:55:01] or Anna Lucia the army medic who got addicted to morphine and then due to that was supposed to be helping somebody of part of the crime family and because she was high on morphine she

[00:55:13] botched the job in he died uh so yeah we never found out about Dean yeah or Rickles yeah and I thought Rickles did have some moral like I mean he he did want to leave at one point and then of

[00:55:35] course they couldn't leave um and I loved his interaction with Peter where Peter's like oh well you know Dean's dead or we'll get a bigger share and he's he says Tim you're welcome to my share

[00:55:51] Pete you could be the richest headless man in America and I thought I'm just like oh man I want more movies like this that have the comedic element I love it it was just great

[00:56:04] it goes up there with ready or not and even like cooties and those movies that have that element where yes it's creepy but it's horror comedy is my special place I mean we did Tucker and Dale

[00:56:21] and cooties like you mentioned it's I love it I love it so much uh I'm gonna just throw out huge practical effects points to when the sunlight blows off the arm oh my gosh of Abigail and then

[00:56:37] she retreats back into the shadows and the arm starts regrowing that looked like that was all practical it was some kind of tubes and I was like I don't know what that is but it's incredible

[00:56:46] and yeah absolutely because we don't get enough practical effects anymore everything is so CGI are now AI generated we need more when they use practical effects I just think it adds this layer of authenticity to what we're watching and sometimes CGI can as we've talked about take me

[00:57:12] out of a scene yeah absolutely and I was not taken out of that scene at all it it was really interesting what they did with it yeah um yeah just a few more little notes that I've got

[00:57:25] the the Sammy thing was really interesting as well introducing that idea that she does become a vampire but then she's fully possessed and controlled by Abigail like absolutely none of her own will

[00:57:36] it's as Frank calls it like puppet yeah and so uh bye bye Peter then um oh such a bummer I really didn't want him to die Kevin Durand is I mean he's great in everything he's in

[00:57:49] mm-hmm and it made me want to go back and watch a movie that ties into the vampire world or rather a series that ties into the vampire world the strain he was great in that and I feel like

[00:58:03] I need to go back and watch it again uh and let's see yeah just at the end again the team up that we didn't expect Abigail and Joey working together to defeat Frank

[00:58:14] and then that time you fully believe Abigail when she says I'm gonna let you go free if we succeed you're like yeah again I said like I feel like there's there's strings attached to that by

[00:58:23] the end but but she did let her live and let her go and I fully was like yeah no she's I take her at her word there yeah I thought that you would do you have other notes on some of the other

[00:58:35] characters yeah okay good because I really thought you would bring up Angus cloud or rather um the artwork on Kevin Durand's face yeah no I've got some extra news because I've got like a section on Frank and then yeah

[00:58:51] I've got a bunch of just like other notes for other people after that so yeah okay good all right yeah I like I said I don't I don't feel like I can do it justice by just saying how

[00:59:07] amazing that um the the Abigail the whole Abigail portrayal was I mean Alicia where I've said it before already she's great I really want to see what she does next I'd love to see her do another horror

[00:59:25] movie so that we can cover it and talk about her yeah um we'll see um yeah I was thoroughly impressed with her though for sure yeah one thing I did want to mention is my last note is about

[00:59:41] Abigail puppeting Sammy which we were talking about and they're kind of both dancing to Danzig's blood and tears yeah so good what's more vampirey than than dancing to Danzig the directors love the idea of Abigail being a fan of Danzig like because she's so much older

[01:00:04] than yeah the 12 year old child she looks like um they love that idea yeah again dance in this movie was fantastic um and props to Catherine Newton I mean the way that she pulled that off was great too

[01:00:23] yeah it wasn't just like similar dance moves but it was like I could almost I don't know this for a fact but I'm sure like the two of them probably worked together on choreography to kind

[01:00:33] of you know to portray the same yeah vibe and movements it was so it was so seamless the way that it transitioned back and forth to each one of them yeah so I really appreciated that too because

[01:00:49] again sometimes it can be jarring if things don't match up so who's next on your list so Frank is the uh the last one that I have like a whole section on just him uh because he is kind of

[01:01:04] the bonus villain of this movie yeah uh which just Dan Stevens is incredible love Dan Stevens it was good to see him and as much as I love him I was like Frank is definitely the scariest person here

[01:01:19] like even aside from I was like he's the one I'm the most worried about being a problem like even from the get-go it's like this guy is dark he's off um but he also had some really great

[01:01:30] comedic moments I love one of the things that a laugh out loud moment which also kind of has to do with Peter because Kevin Durand incredible oh my gosh yeah is you know Frank walking into the room and

[01:01:43] Joey holding the gun on him is like why did you bring us here to kill us and he goes what are you talking about and he's like what do you think is going on and Peter speaks

[01:01:52] up he goes I think she thinks you brought here to get brought us here to kill us and he goes fantastic insight Peter going into some of my Peter notes a little bit I'll go cover his real quick

[01:02:05] was the you know what do we know about vampires conversation because the first thing Peter says that they're not real and then as they're like well what about this the car like this and he's

[01:02:17] going now but yeah so I'll talk about Peter real quick like a tangent for him uh because yeah Kevin Durand great uh yeah Peter already washed off the well Peter on his face um Dean's last last hurrah

[01:02:36] was taking a marker out of his like fanny pack and drawing a penis on Peter's face which I thought was funny but then also like so he runs in finds Dean's dead body he's talking to Sammy and it's there's like why is there a dick on your face

[01:02:53] he's like what and he's like go get help and then the next scene we see him it's already gone like he had washed it off and I was like no that's like so that was a that was a bit done for

[01:03:03] a one-off joke and that's it no okay like he's been there for a lot longer I'm sure he used a sharpie Dean would have used a sharpie right mm-hmm yeah and that lasts a lot longer also I have to

[01:03:16] notice I didn't have any subtitles or anything on when I watched this I didn't use on this time but anytime he was referring to Rickles did he keep saying Mr. Wrinkles yes that's what it sounded

[01:03:26] like he was saying because I didn't have the captions on and it was always pretty sure he keeps saying mr. wrinkles yep always which is such a great peter mum because yeah kevin durand as a

[01:03:38] himbo henchman was pleasing to me I thought that's great it's like that whole mama is just like but she said we thought you were valdez no she's valdez I thought her name was abagail but

[01:03:54] it's kind of like a drags moment like that and like the other characters kevin durand he had input and he was able to actually use his native kebukwai accent which is something he's never been able to do before yeah so yeah need more kevin durand in

[01:04:15] things he's always great I know he plays a bad guy really well like he he really does I consider him not to be such a I don't know he's kind of I still remember back in the day

[01:04:28] because this goes back so many years ago now but like because pre jeffrey dean Morgan and the walking dead when as a comic book reader all of us were like speculating who are they gonna cast his

[01:04:37] negan when he shows up and legitimately kevin durand was always one of my top choices like yeah just just yeah I don't know I I don't know I I'm glad it went to JDM because I think

[01:04:48] he did a phenomenal job but like I wonder what that would have looked like because yeah yeah there were a bunch of different names that were tossed around john john ham was another big one

[01:04:57] yeah um henry rollins who I think which is who the comic was was like modeled after yeah I only got one walking dead casting that I wanted and that was for beta I really wanted Brian

[01:05:12] Hurst and it came true yeah and I was like this is great this is what I wanted yeah and off of walking dead tangent and back to Abigail yeah um but yeah so frank we're talking about uh yeah because that

[01:05:27] that interaction with peter was hilarious uh then like the those are fucking onions line which was great this is as scary as he was he had some really great funny moments that he was involved in

[01:05:38] I get like the bookcase tip where Abigail tells him what to do and he goes in there and just the way he delivers that like and then there were none and nothing happens which I mean I guess I shouldn't

[01:05:50] be surprised she's just like playing around with him although there was part of me that kind of expected it to trigger a trap that was like a trap door underneath them or something yeah

[01:05:59] and I was like that would have been diabolical maybe they should have done that they should have like I mean if you think back to the way that Joey opened up that

[01:06:11] window at the top the big circular window because it was banging and so she goes in and she kind of opens it up so the light comes in and later on it's sunlight that kind they can kind

[01:06:23] of stand in um that also feeds into the tropes that you get about vampires and sunlight and everything that we've talked about yeah that trope was interesting of course it was more extreme where it's not like they just burst into flame and they literally

[01:06:40] explode I was like the fact that these vampires explode everywhere when they die is interesting and then it makes me think of ready or not I'm like yes early open and get

[01:06:50] they love to make bad guys explode so simply I mean one minute Sammy was there in the next minute she exploded into a million pieces yeah yeah uh there was a couple of continuity things I

[01:07:06] had to point out uh that were both related to Frank the first one is when they're standing there after they blow up Sammy with the the tray it looked like he had an earpiece in they got bluetooth

[01:07:21] earpiece almost they did have those comms that they were using at one point yeah but it was like it was there but then like the next show like and then it went back to something and it

[01:07:30] went back to him and he's taking off his glasses and it was gone and I was like there's a weird continuity mistake that I I caught and then also another one is when he's talking to

[01:07:38] Lambert there's an angle where John Carlos Pazitos words and mouth movements do not match up and it really caught me off guard I was like that's not what he's saying right there

[01:07:54] no that usually bothers me like I can usually pick up on that right away when it happens because I can't stand it yeah I got it that doesn't work it doesn't bother me when we're watching foreign

[01:08:08] films I'm fine with it not matching yeah but that's different yeah this yeah no I'm not a fan sometimes I think I have to reload YouTube or reload the program to get it to go like to line it up again

[01:08:24] I guess no it was just it was a case of like bad like poorly synced ADR that just got overlooked or something I think which that's fine I'm not gonna dock at too many points off this movie

[01:08:36] because overall it was still great it was just one thing that I was like oh I noticed that one well it's a good thing we're not doing our ratings anymore yeah

[01:08:46] so yeah then we get the Lambert reveal that he's also a vampire he's working for Lazar and Abigail but then he has these plans to turn Frank and then have them team up to take out the Lazar's

[01:08:58] together and take over their empire which Joey shouldn't have been surprised that he went for it because he's a scumbag um exactly uh also not surprising that he turned on Lambert yeah I

[01:09:13] immediately double crosses him uh and then of course the steak and then he blows up because that's what they love doing um which then led to I will say Dan Stevens looked super bad ass with

[01:09:26] sharp teeth and sharp teeth and then the glasses covered in blood that almost looked like sunglasses and then even though like it was like a cream colored shirt he was wearing the way the blood

[01:09:35] splattered all over it almost made it look like a shiny leather jacket yep and then he had to slick back hair with it I was like fucking lost boys over here what's going on you know like

[01:09:46] oh man it's true yeah I mean well they do love to blow things up they love for things to explode and it's just something they like they don't want things like this to be like a simple

[01:10:02] thing they want it to be vicious they want it to be big and powerful and it always is it's amazing yeah and then Frank we've established throughout the movie that he has this hunger for

[01:10:17] power that was one of his big downfalls as a cop and then all this and so like we see him then when he makes that transformation like being a vampire was definitely his calling um he is

[01:10:28] loving this this power over people and over the situation and then he goes zero to 100 so fast where it's like not only am I a vampire and I love this but then he's just like also now

[01:10:41] joey i'm gonna turn you into a vampire puppet and then we're gonna go murder your son and get it was so horrible like what is what yeah no he's harboring these evil horrible feelings

[01:10:53] about joey and her family and it's like where did that come from she didn't even know her before today right and yet you want to do these things and she did nothing to you why are you acting like

[01:11:07] this oh man yeah Frank is definitely a villain he may show up on a list later this season we'll see we'll see I don't know uh yeah so that's what we've all got for him I don't know if you've got

[01:11:28] any notes no we we've covered everything that I had for Frank all right so yeah so then just other random notes but other characters uh throw them out like so yeah Angus cloud uh was not somebody

[01:11:41] I had seen anything of him and I was familiar with the name and I had forgotten so what happened is I saw him in his name and I was like I'm familiar with the name in the face but I was like he's

[01:11:53] from euphoria I've never watched euphoria me either I've never seen him in anything but you know however and then it wasn't till the end of the movie where the in loving memory of

[01:12:02] Angus cloud and then I had forgotten and it like flushed back into my head and I was like that is why I was so familiar with the name and face is again I hadn't seen anything he was in yeah

[01:12:13] but I remembered seeing reports of his passing and the news reports and stuff like that's where that was like that's why that was so familiar to me yeah even though I hadn't seen him before

[01:12:23] he had finished all of his everything for this movie um and then the strike happened and production got shut down he actually signed an autograph that cloud that we saw at the end

[01:12:37] yeah they drew out um he signed an autograph for someone on the crew and then Melissa Barrera had it printed on t-shirts for everybody the cast the crew and everything when filming wrapped so um that was actually his like he yeah he wrote his name with the cloud

[01:12:57] yeah which is cool and I haven't watched euphoria I've heard really good things about it said by is in it mm-hmm I know they're waiting for a third see I think a third season and they just

[01:13:07] seem to keep waiting and I'm like man I guess there's some other like younger kid who's in it that's like really good and I only know that begin because he was in the last season

[01:13:17] of umbrella academy and people like oh my god I'm sick of euphoria and I was like okay he's good here I guess like I don't know um yeah Sydney Sweeney too had really broke out she was on

[01:13:30] the handmaid's tail and she really broke out in euphoria like now she's a mainstay yeah uh let's see yeah this so then yeah Dean the character aside from Angus cloud uh yeah Joey was very

[01:13:47] right about him not being a professional because it was like the only thing he's done this whole movie is just be stoned and horny uh that's kind of his whole life um and it fully tracked

[01:13:58] that he was the first to die because he was kind of a moron um yeah but then we see again later and I was like on here we thought he was just some useless uneducated idiot but no he just

[01:14:08] needed to get out of his own head a little bit now he's a beautiful dancer oh goodness so good you know so well trained who knew that he he must have studied at Juilliard or something

[01:14:24] yeah seven years in Juilliard nobody gets that reference but if you do it's amazing um if you do you do oh man so yeah uh Sammy a little bit she was kind of strange to me like too smiley

[01:14:40] yeah that was kind of like her thing so I just suppose like it's like okay I did have one of the things do her tattoos on her hands say fuck mom because that's what yeah that's what it looks like

[01:14:51] yeah that's what it looks like um and then yeah her getting bit and then waiting to see how that played out I liked a little moment of tension where she's like can I get in the sun with you guys and

[01:15:01] she's here it goes and then okay fine I have expected her hand to blow off I'll admit it I really didn't I did well and she was like the hand was fine and then she steps back in and she's like

[01:15:14] then I then I thought the whole thing was gonna go but yeah not yet uh and then yeah Jean-Carlo Esposito talked about talked about Kevin Durand is Peter uh and then Rickles

[01:15:29] not a whole lot uh just yeah other that he got taken out very quick and unceremoniously just like and he's out of the movie now yeah and I thought you know they were playing with chemistry

[01:15:40] between him and Joey there's like almost a thing where I was like do they know each other from before me too but they're not saying it because they can't let anybody else know yeah

[01:15:51] and I thought he was gonna kiss her at one point and then I'm like okay so we're gonna go there and then the next thing you knew he was dead yeah and it was weird because you heard this sound

[01:16:04] and then he's standing there and she walks towards him and I'm like I know he's been bitten his necks probably sliced off who knows what's happened but honestly I thought he'd been

[01:16:18] and the way he was standing in his body was like jerking a little bit it just made me think of so many of those infestation movies where they get infested by branches almost like a like

[01:16:31] clicker vibe from the last of us absolutely yeah and then she looks at him and he falls down and that's the end man this movie yeah this movie I did not expect to be what it was

[01:16:54] I just knew it was a newer one and I thought it'd be great for us to cover something that was new where I had no idea that it was gonna be funny and that it was gonna be one of those

[01:17:04] ones that I love when we cover because our conversation is just it's just he just laughed because there are things that happen that you're not expecting so that's that's it got everything

[01:17:19] kind of covered and done yeah I mean yeah I enjoyed this one a lot I didn't know what I was going into exactly and it wasn't exactly what I thought it was gonna be in all the best ways no it was a

[01:17:33] lot it was just basically Abigail playing with her food as she said yeah so yeah it's a lot of fun oh and there goes the feedback phone so we'll have to see what others had to say about this one I'm curious

[01:17:50] yeah all right we do have just a little bit of feedback this week and of course this first one comes through uh comes to us from our uh lovely lovely listener Catherine who's always always coming

[01:18:08] through from us uh we always love it and since it's a really long one I'm gonna let you read it Daphne okay yeah sure so Catherine says I've wanted to watch Abigail for a while just because

[01:18:20] of Alicia Weir and her performance in the Matilda remake when my daughter was three she spent hours trying to imitate Matilda's impressive dance moves Abigail's choreography was beautiful leaping over dead bodies and pirouetting around her next victim I was not expecting to be rooting for

[01:18:39] the vampire ballerina the entire time and I also wasn't expecting to see so many other faces like Gus from Breaking Bad and both David and Gabriel from Legion my only complaint is the number of times

[01:18:54] Abigail seemed to die only to come back at the last minute but it did set up some really fun scenes with Joey Run for Your Lives has been on a roll this season with movies that I've never

[01:19:06] seen but really enjoyed and Abigail is no exception awesome that's so cool I appreciate that thanks for watching along with us and it was like when it's stuff that you haven't seen that you're

[01:19:20] taking time out of your week to watch a movie and give us your thoughts like that that means way more than you probably even realized so we really do appreciate it it means a ton Catherine thank you so much for continuing this Run for Your Lives journey

[01:19:35] with us every week we really appreciate it yeah absolutely which that's usually how we wrap up the feedback section is like word for word exactly what we just said but there is one more

[01:19:47] little bit of feedback here from our friend Erica who also has a really long one says I'd love to see an origin story about Abigail me too yeah no I I actually agree like that that could be

[01:20:01] really interesting for sure because who knows how long she's really been living and all of the different people that she's you know trapped into this situation and stuff that she's done as as the

[01:20:14] hit man for her father or whatever so yeah there's a lot of story stuff that could be in there I like the idea for her being the hit man for her father I feel like she only does it to bad people

[01:20:27] at least for the most part so I have to support that and I too rooted for Abigail in the movie well if you'd like to submit feedback like Erica or Catherine you can find us on Facebook

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[01:21:06] and get us out there even more we really appreciate it we definitely do of course speaking of sharing the love gotta give those shout outs to things going on in the podcast universe around us because my other podcast range indeed is wrapped up on sweet tooth

[01:21:24] and we're sitting back and taking another little break hopefully not as long as the last break that we took but we're relaxed a little bit assessing what we want to do umbrella Academy season four is out I've talked with Rima we are it's nothing concrete nothing confirmed but

[01:21:40] but we may return to the umbrella academy in some form or fashion in the future so if you're a fan of that we've had some people reach out and ask us about that so if you're wondering

[01:21:50] stay tuned to the strange indeed feed and then aside from that we've got some of our other staple shows that are coming out later in the fall so definitely stay tuned we'll definitely get onto those we've got I mean we got you the final season coming up in

[01:22:06] sometime in the late 2024 we don't have an exact date but um yeah I think the Dexter prequel is supposed to be in December or something so we've talked about some of that stuff so we'll be back soon don't worry but aside from that lots of great podcast stuff

[01:22:22] going on with the cast of us Jason and Karen but not the original Karen from Jason and Karen of The Walking Dead cast Karen she is joining Jason on this Walking Dead rewatch this week as they're

[01:22:35] covering season three episode six hounded so you can check that out been doing great Walking Dead rewatch there speaking of rewatches you can check out Ben and Kristen over on the Revisited podcast as they are you know finishing up we're getting close to the end of Ted Lasso

[01:22:52] season three episode 10 international break so we're about about to wrap up their Ted Lasso coverage they're getting close and then the good place coming up next for them I don't know if they're taking a little break between or not but stay tuned over there always some great

[01:23:06] shows going on and revisited we have let it rip the bear cast with Lucy and Peter talking the bear of course this week episodes five and six of season three children and napkins

[01:23:20] I will say I'm not spoiling anything for fans of the bear like napkins is the forks of this season if that makes sense to anybody it's I really really enjoyed that episode and I

[01:23:33] thought it was incredible great backstory episode a lot of great John Berndtall in that one just the best of him so check that out yeah so it's great episodes definitely check out their

[01:23:43] coverage Lucy and Peter are crushing it Cobra Kai cast definitely check that out as well Cobra Kai is in their final season as well Rima Richard and Jason covering season six episode three sleeper

[01:23:55] last week and then they should have the episode four up this next week so wrap those only five episodes out right now so they've been just taking one at a time so they're getting close to

[01:24:04] this first section of Cobra Kai and then we gotta wait till like November for the next section the next five episodes of that but it's been a great final season so far I'm excited to

[01:24:14] see where it goes and of course lastly outside of podcastica always given some love to our friends over at TV podcast industries so we had Derek and John covering Deadpool and Wolverine this week

[01:24:29] that was great to listen to they're always great in their Marvel movie and show coverage especially with Deadpool just so much fun to listen to them talk and laugh about all the insanity that was that movie oh man just go watch Deadpool and Wolverine if you haven't

[01:24:43] already what's wrong with you get on it it's so good it's such a trip in all the most amazing ways so yeah great to check out there and then also lastly gonna give that shout out again to

[01:24:56] the Buffalo Buffalo podcast if you just need more of me and Daphne alongside our friends Jeff and Jerry we're still having a lot of fun over there just talking hanging out playing goofy games

[01:25:09] yeah it's been a lot of fun just coming up with crazy ideas and things to do and we've got more fun ideas in the pipeline and some more great episodes coming your way so it's a quick 30 minute episode

[01:25:20] you can just kind of listen and laugh along as we're just we're ridiculous and we love every second of it so go check that out but of course outside of all that you can always come back

[01:25:30] to run for your lives we got good stuff for you every week unless we're on a break between seasons but we're not because this season is starting strong and we're going so we'll be back

[01:25:39] here next week with something for you what are we doing Daphne well a former baseball player is forced into early retirement due to a degenerative illness and he purchases a home with a pool so his family

[01:25:51] can finally put down roots their lives are upended when a malevolent presence lurking in their backyard pool begins to haunt them we are discussing Bryce McGuire's 2024 film Night Swim and it's quite a movie yes Blumhouse production so there's been some interesting

[01:26:14] stuff coming out of there lately that we've talked about so uh should be a fun one yeah I think Blumhouse has definitely been exceeding my expectations lately yeah because sometimes

[01:26:26] they're hit or miss but I feel like they're moving into the hit column more than the miss lately so yeah this this was an interesting discussion yeah definitely check it out well with that we've

[01:26:40] reached the end of our episode thanks for listening I'm Daphne and I'm Paik and if you have to run you better run for your lives bye