Run For Your Lives Podcast Episode 191: No One Will Save You

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[00:00:10] Hey everyone, welcome to the show. I'm Daphne.

[00:00:36] And I'm Pake.

[00:00:37] And this is the Run For Your Lives Podcast.

[00:00:41] This episode we will be talking about the science fiction horror film No One Will Save You, written and directed by Brian Duffield and released September 19th, 2023.

[00:00:50] A little over a year ago this movie came out, from when we're recording this.

[00:00:56] That is great!

[00:00:58] Mm-hmm.

[00:00:58] I had never really heard of this one.

[00:01:03] Um, the only way that I heard of it was at the beginning of this year, in like January or something, around the time of, you know, Oscars and all that, Dead Meat does their horror awards.

[00:01:17] That's right!

[00:01:18] And this movie got a lot of love, um, from Dead Meat.

[00:01:22] And so, I just wrote it down, way back at the beginning of the year when they did that.

[00:01:26] And I've been sitting on it since then.

[00:01:28] I think I mentioned this one in our like, Looking Forward special number two.

[00:01:31] This is one of the ones that I brought up.

[00:01:33] And it's been sitting here and I was like, finally, it's time.

[00:01:36] Let's break it out.

[00:01:37] Let's do it.

[00:01:37] I'm ready.

[00:01:38] And you did.

[00:01:40] And we're talking about it.

[00:01:41] Yeah.

[00:01:42] Um, like I said, I hadn't really heard anything about it.

[00:01:46] Um, except the director directed another movie I think I told you about.

[00:01:52] It's called Spontaneous.

[00:01:56] And it's basically where all the teenagers in the town are spontaneously combusting.

[00:02:04] Yes.

[00:02:06] And I didn't realize it until I started looking into the director.

[00:02:09] And it's like, oh man, yeah, that one.

[00:02:12] I haven't watched it yet, but I really want to cover that one.

[00:02:15] And based on what I saw in this one, I absolutely do because I like this director's point of view.

[00:02:22] Yeah.

[00:02:23] He's been involved in a bunch of things.

[00:02:26] Um, he was a writer on Love and Monsters, which has such a special place in my heart.

[00:02:34] And he was a producer on Cocaine Bear.

[00:02:37] So it's like, okay, he's got a good run for your lives track record.

[00:02:40] He does.

[00:02:41] He definitely does.

[00:02:42] So I'm like, okay, all right, I'm down for this.

[00:02:46] Um, but the only other movie that he wrote and directed was Spontaneous.

[00:02:50] So I would love to cover that at some point because.

[00:02:54] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:02:55] I think it'd be a movie that, um, would be fun to cover and one that doesn't take itself

[00:03:00] too seriously.

[00:03:03] So yeah, we'll definitely cover it at some point.

[00:03:06] Um, it was filmed in Slidell, Louisiana, and the street scenes are in old town Slidell

[00:03:13] in Louisiana.

[00:03:14] A lot of times they'll say, Oh, it was in new Orleans, but it's actually this other

[00:03:20] little place.

[00:03:21] Slidell is a little outside.

[00:03:24] Yeah.

[00:03:24] Have you been there?

[00:03:25] A little over there.

[00:03:26] I have not, but that's a close over to Lake Pontchartrain.

[00:03:30] It's a huge lake over there with a big bridge that goes over it and stuff.

[00:03:35] And then, uh, I always think of one of my favorite bands, Ludo has a whole song called

[00:03:40] Lake Pontchartrain about the lake being this evil entity that like lures people in with voices

[00:03:47] and, and swallows them whole.

[00:03:49] And it's very dark and demented and amazing.

[00:03:52] And so whenever I see the like location of this, I just think of Slidell because they

[00:03:58] mentioned the town by name in the song.

[00:04:00] And so it's like, yeah.

[00:04:02] You can't go wrong with anything that gets you to reference Ludo.

[00:04:07] Okay.

[00:04:08] You can't because Ludo is great.

[00:04:11] They have a song scare me.

[00:04:13] And in it, it even says run for your lives.

[00:04:16] So I feel like, yeah, Ludo has a vibe that's run for your lives.

[00:04:22] So the budget for this one was 22.8 million.

[00:04:26] I have no box office info.

[00:04:28] It did get a limited box office release and then it went to streaming.

[00:04:33] It was pretty well received and watched a bunch of times.

[00:04:38] I believe it even was the most watched at one point on Hulu.

[00:04:44] It's 93 minutes long.

[00:04:47] So it's not that long.

[00:04:49] So, Peek, what have you got for a synopsis?

[00:04:54] Uh huh.

[00:04:55] Um, let's see.

[00:04:56] I looked on AMDB and the one they had, I absolutely hated.

[00:04:59] So I decided to go the route of last week, but also to keep you guessing because, um,

[00:05:04] I think you thought that it meant I was going to hate a movie if I decided to be snarky

[00:05:08] and jokey with my, uh, synopsis, but really it just means I hated the one that was there

[00:05:13] and I couldn't think of anything better that didn't like spoil too much stuff.

[00:05:16] So then I'm like, well, let's just have fun with it.

[00:05:18] So Bren is lonely and quiet.

[00:05:20] Aliens go and action ensues.

[00:05:23] Okay.

[00:05:24] Great.

[00:05:25] It's about all you need to know.

[00:05:27] Just enjoy it.

[00:05:28] Wow.

[00:05:30] Well, there we go.

[00:05:34] I will tell you that I watched this with the captions on.

[00:05:40] Oh yeah.

[00:05:41] Cause you didn't want to miss all that dialogue.

[00:05:43] No, no, all the dialogue.

[00:05:46] No, really what I didn't want to miss was all of the slurping and noises and banging and sound

[00:05:54] effects that make up this movie because honestly they were like a character on their own.

[00:05:59] Mm hmm.

[00:06:01] When I was watching it too, I wasn't really sure what I was getting into, but by the end

[00:06:07] of it, I just realized there's a much bigger message here than what I thought.

[00:06:13] Mm hmm.

[00:06:13] And I appreciated the movie so much more.

[00:06:18] Once I got to the very end and got through the, and saw, you know, what her future was

[00:06:23] going to be like, I, I was just glad, you know, I'm glad I watched it and I like the message

[00:06:32] and the ending.

[00:06:34] I wish more people could, you know, be forgiving like these aliens, you know?

[00:06:44] Right.

[00:06:45] Why, why, why can't humanity be more like the aliens that come and possess and body snatch

[00:06:52] and enslave an entire human race?

[00:06:54] Why can't we be more like that?

[00:06:56] Yeah.

[00:06:56] Why can't we be more inhuman?

[00:06:59] Unhuman?

[00:07:01] But it's true.

[00:07:02] I mean, we'll get to that point and I'll go through, you know, kind of where I landed

[00:07:10] and how I went through it.

[00:07:12] Um, I did like the tagline for this one.

[00:07:15] More than 1.6 million homes are broken into each year.

[00:07:19] This invasion is different.

[00:07:22] Interesting.

[00:07:23] Yeah.

[00:07:24] All my notes are really all together because we really only have one character.

[00:07:33] Yeah.

[00:07:34] Yeah.

[00:07:34] Mine are the same.

[00:07:35] I didn't compile anything.

[00:07:36] I didn't move anything around.

[00:07:38] I didn't try to put it into different categories.

[00:07:40] So this one will be done a little differently as far as there's not little like different.

[00:07:44] We're not breaking down character by character.

[00:07:45] But in the future, you guys are going to get, at least with me, a just the unfiltered version of, I'm just going to go through my notes in chronological order, the way that I took them.

[00:07:57] And you just kind of, it's almost like the live tweeting in a way, you know, you just kind of get my thoughts, especially since it's the first time I ever watched this that like, I'll probably even let you guys into like some of just my early thoughts.

[00:08:09] So I was like, Ooh, is this what's happening?

[00:08:10] What's that about?

[00:08:11] I was, you know, this is like the live tweeting unfiltered fake thoughts style of notes today.

[00:08:17] Yeah, I really didn't know what was going on.

[00:08:21] I kind of started clustering notes and then I gave up on the idea because with Brynn, I just, I just thought the poor girl, I didn't understand.

[00:08:34] I'm like, she's all by herself.

[00:08:36] I couldn't figure out what the timeframe was because she's got this TV that looks new and a phone that's a rotary phone.

[00:08:47] And I'm just like, what?

[00:08:50] Where are we?

[00:08:51] And her clothes were really cool, but they kind of were a little retro.

[00:08:56] So I'm like, okay.

[00:08:57] Very vintage.

[00:08:57] Yeah.

[00:08:58] Very vintage.

[00:09:00] Yeah.

[00:09:00] I think really what it is, is she's in her childhood home.

[00:09:05] She's lived there her whole life.

[00:09:09] And then, you know, her mother has passed away a few years ago.

[00:09:12] And so now she's just on her own in this house.

[00:09:14] So it's a lot of just the simple life.

[00:09:18] I mean, she hasn't really gotten out.

[00:09:21] Like she's, she's not disconnected from the world around her because I mean, we see she's running like an Etsy business.

[00:09:27] She like makes dresses and different like things and, and sends them out to people.

[00:09:31] Uh, she's a very creative type.

[00:09:33] She orders all these like little, like model pieces and does kind of the tiny, like, you know, the, the model, like not model homes, but you know, like model buildings and kind of like small town models and stuff.

[00:09:44] Like she's just very, and it's almost this subconscious thing.

[00:09:49] If she's like building this community that she doesn't have.

[00:09:51] Yes.

[00:09:52] And I loved her model village so much.

[00:09:56] It was just very cool.

[00:09:58] And you can tell that it, like you said, it meant a lot to her.

[00:10:02] This was the world she couldn't have.

[00:10:04] And it really, I couldn't figure out what happened because they didn't give us enough information.

[00:10:10] People were just really mean to her.

[00:10:13] Yeah.

[00:10:14] It's like everyone's giving her a cold shoulder.

[00:10:16] I was like rude, but I was like, well, obviously there's some underlying issue.

[00:10:20] Especially I was like, well, she's hiding from this like older woman and a cop, which are mods parents.

[00:10:26] Yeah.

[00:10:26] Uh, when we see her mailbox, like you can tell it's been dented in.

[00:10:30] Like somebody is like driven by and hit it with a baseball bat or something.

[00:10:33] Like you immediately pick up pretty early.

[00:10:35] Like she is a pariah in this town.

[00:10:38] Yes.

[00:10:38] Because of something that happened.

[00:10:40] Yes, she is.

[00:10:41] She gets phone calls and she just picks.

[00:10:44] It's like a whole system of the phone rings.

[00:10:47] She knows it's someone being mean.

[00:10:49] She picks it up.

[00:10:50] She hangs it up and just, you know, keeps going.

[00:10:55] And I started to think of no one will save you.

[00:10:57] Well, no, they won't because they hate her.

[00:11:00] And I don't even know why they hate her.

[00:11:04] But I did have to question.

[00:11:07] She is a seamstress.

[00:11:08] She makes beautiful clothes.

[00:11:11] Like she does such a great job.

[00:11:14] But she has this, you know, everything she does seems to be like on a, you know, schedule of everything from practicing in the mirror of how to smile and pretend to be happy.

[00:11:27] Yeah.

[00:11:28] Like it's all forced.

[00:11:31] And then you see later.

[00:11:32] Well, when she's driving by this one guy, she tries to be friendly, but it's, you know, no, it's like she doesn't exist.

[00:11:43] And I realized she can't count on anyone on anyone.

[00:11:47] There's no one that would save her.

[00:11:48] If something bad were happening, they would not come to her aid.

[00:11:51] It's her.

[00:11:53] She's on her own.

[00:11:55] Yeah.

[00:11:57] Which backtrack a little bit before, you know, there's a few reasons I was excited to watch this movie.

[00:12:01] I mean, Caitlin Deaver being a big part of that.

[00:12:04] But I'm not going to be too spoilery because there are still people out there who may be avoiding things or whatever.

[00:12:09] But I'm really looking forward to seeing her.

[00:12:13] I will say at least this much in The Last of Us.

[00:12:16] Yes.

[00:12:16] Season two.

[00:12:17] She was cast in a very important role, which I won't spoil anything for those who don't know or want to know or whatever.

[00:12:23] But I'm very intrigued.

[00:12:25] And I think watching this movie with that lens, I was like, it just made me more excited.

[00:12:30] I was like, after this one, I was like, yeah, she can handle this.

[00:12:33] She can handle it.

[00:12:35] Because I'll be honest, I'm not super familiar with her.

[00:12:39] I don't know if I've seen a lot of other stuff she's done.

[00:12:42] So this was really, this movie was my way of kind of gauging.

[00:12:46] I was like, I was excited to see how that's going to go.

[00:12:48] Now I'm even more excited because I've now seen her carry a role like this.

[00:12:54] And I'm like, okay, she can handle some interesting stuff.

[00:12:57] Yeah.

[00:12:57] And we, I mean, we aren't kidding.

[00:13:00] There are five words of dialogue in this entire movie.

[00:13:05] Yeah.

[00:13:05] Which another thing that really intrigued me about this movie was the idea of practically no dialogue.

[00:13:11] Yeah.

[00:13:11] To where face acting, body language, the visual elements are going to tell the story and the emotions related to it

[00:13:17] without words.

[00:13:19] Yeah.

[00:13:20] And I think it did its job overall.

[00:13:23] I think who, you know, the sound department behind everything, because you feel like you're there with her listening as she's listening to the sounds that are around her the whole time.

[00:13:39] Oh yeah.

[00:13:39] It really drew me in.

[00:13:42] Also, I like this house.

[00:13:43] It was a really nice house.

[00:13:44] I like that house a lot.

[00:13:45] But it's kind of like you were saying, vintage.

[00:13:49] It's kind of old looking.

[00:13:51] Like, but in this really quaint and cute and adorable way.

[00:14:00] It just, there's something about it.

[00:14:03] I, you just want to curl up on the couch there and read a book.

[00:14:07] Yeah.

[00:14:07] But yeah, as you said, you feel like you're there with her.

[00:14:10] Because I.

[00:14:11] Yeah.

[00:14:12] In case people don't know, I loved this movie so much.

[00:14:16] I'm so glad I watched it.

[00:14:18] Like, just go ahead and let you know.

[00:14:19] I don't know.

[00:14:20] When we get to like riffle awards at the end of the season, like this one's a strong contender.

[00:14:24] Oh.

[00:14:25] Holy shit.

[00:14:26] It was so good.

[00:14:28] I don't know when the last time I watched a movie that I was legitimately tense through so many of those scenes.

[00:14:38] Like, this movie fucking nailed tension.

[00:14:41] Those scenes where she's like hiding and the alien's walking around and you kind of get the, it just builds it so well.

[00:14:48] Like, I'm like, I'm literally, my entire body is like tensed up.

[00:14:53] I can feel my muscles just all contracted.

[00:14:55] And I'm sitting there in the chair, not moving, barely breathing, just staring at the TV, not knowing what's going to happen next.

[00:15:01] I was like, I haven't felt this with a horror movie in a long time.

[00:15:05] I was like, oh my God, I love it.

[00:15:07] Well, I think because of the way the sound was and the way that it pulled you in, it didn't feel like you were disconnected from the character.

[00:15:16] It felt like you really were a part of it.

[00:15:19] Can you imagine seeing this in a theater with all the sounds around you?

[00:15:23] Oh, it would have been so cool.

[00:15:24] I mean, there's just, you're sitting there and, I mean, you'd feel like the aliens were just going to come in and walk down the aisle in front of you because of the way that they are.

[00:15:38] Yeah.

[00:15:40] So good.

[00:15:41] The horror elements were incredible.

[00:15:42] And then the underlying story of trying to kind of figure out as they give you it piece by piece what's going on was really intriguing as well.

[00:15:50] It kept me kind of, every time they bring it back up, you know, she's writing the letters to Maude.

[00:15:55] And it's like early on, you're like, I got a feeling those aren't actually going anywhere.

[00:15:59] Something happened.

[00:16:01] Because you see, you know, in the notes, you kind of write stuff, you know, I don't think I'll ever forgive myself.

[00:16:05] And God, I miss you and things like that.

[00:16:07] And you're like, what happened?

[00:16:10] Something happened.

[00:16:10] And it's, you're trying to like piece those things together.

[00:16:13] And then you completely forget about that for a second because you're back in that moment of like, oh, I can't breathe.

[00:16:18] I'm so scared.

[00:16:19] Yeah.

[00:16:20] Well, because.

[00:16:20] The tension was great.

[00:16:21] The lights were flashing and things were banging.

[00:16:25] And I have to tell you, I was so sad when her village just went flying.

[00:16:31] The whole table went flying up against the wall.

[00:16:34] Oh, and I have a note.

[00:16:35] She was like, no, not the little model building.

[00:16:37] No, it was so cute.

[00:16:38] She worked so hard on that.

[00:16:40] I don't think I've ever told you about one of the things I've always wanted to go to England.

[00:16:44] And one of the things I want to see is they have great model villages.

[00:16:49] And I'm so into that.

[00:16:51] Like, even when we covered Hot Fuzz, I think I mentioned that the model village.

[00:16:55] I'm just like.

[00:16:56] So the little geese running around in them.

[00:16:59] I just want to.

[00:17:00] Yeah, I just want to.

[00:17:02] To be there and see, you know, immerse myself in it.

[00:17:07] But so I was sad when the model village went crashing into the wall.

[00:17:12] Yeah.

[00:17:14] That first night when like, I mean, this movie doesn't take long to get into the tension and the action.

[00:17:21] Like I said, that.

[00:17:23] That first when she's hiding under the bed and the aliens in her room, I paused to take a note about like the tension stuff.

[00:17:29] And I realized, I was like, it's been 15 minutes into this movie and I'm already like fully sucked into that.

[00:17:36] And I was like, yeah, that's, that's great.

[00:17:39] But yeah, that first night is just really well done.

[00:17:42] You know, she, the lights don't bother her or whatever.

[00:17:44] And they go on and then the power goes off.

[00:17:47] But it's the, the sounds outside.

[00:17:49] And she thinks it's like a raccoon or something knocked over the trash can, which then she got up to go downstairs.

[00:17:54] And I was like, no, to me, that's a, that's an in the morning problem.

[00:17:57] Yeah.

[00:17:58] I don't know why you're getting up.

[00:18:00] I think that I would have crawled under the bed and just stayed there.

[00:18:06] But yeah, but then as she's walking downstairs to go handle that, that's when she, the doors open and then she sees the figure walking around downstairs.

[00:18:13] On its hands.

[00:18:14] It's just like walking around.

[00:18:16] And then the sounds that.

[00:18:18] And I'm like.

[00:18:19] Oh my God.

[00:18:20] And then the way it just skitters across the room and it's large, but you just see the little like shadows.

[00:18:26] Now I was just like, I don't like that.

[00:18:28] No.

[00:18:29] I'm actually very uncomfortable right now.

[00:18:33] Well, it had these little hands for feet kind of.

[00:18:37] And so I was like, oh my God, does it have feet for hands or what on earth?

[00:18:41] And it was quite the creature looking thing.

[00:18:45] But the croaking and the bell.

[00:18:48] And then at one point it gets up to the window and it's making this bellowing noise out the window and things are vibrating.

[00:18:56] And I'm just like.

[00:18:57] But just like the jerky movements, like the bones.

[00:19:02] It just cracks.

[00:19:03] And then it.

[00:19:03] The way it walks, just like it skitters like quickly.

[00:19:06] Yeah.

[00:19:06] And it's unsettling.

[00:19:09] It's like, I hate it.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] In the best way.

[00:19:12] But all of it.

[00:19:13] Everything.

[00:19:14] The sounds, the movements.

[00:19:16] It was like Creep Factor through the roof.

[00:19:19] I hate it so much.

[00:19:21] And that's the best.

[00:19:22] And I mean that in the best way.

[00:19:24] I'm like, ah.

[00:19:25] I don't like it so much that I love it.

[00:19:27] But, um.

[00:19:29] And I bet this set, this house set had to have been fun.

[00:19:32] Rigging all the lights and the doors slamming open and closing with telekinetic powers and stuff going on.

[00:19:39] And I'm sure it was stunt work and effects work.

[00:19:44] This was a blast.

[00:19:45] It had to have been.

[00:19:46] I didn't want them to ruin the little house, though, because I loved the house so much.

[00:19:50] I felt like, oh, no, no.

[00:19:52] Not the door.

[00:19:54] I mean, oh, the telekinesis for this creature to have telekinesis and use it the way that it did, I thought was just fun and clever and terrifying.

[00:20:07] Yeah.

[00:20:07] I couldn't decide if I was impressed or more impressed or more scared.

[00:20:12] Like, I couldn't.

[00:20:13] Just both at the same time.

[00:20:14] All in one clump.

[00:20:16] Yeah.

[00:20:17] And the fact that the alien knew to, like, grab and hang up the phone, I was like, well, that's fucking disturbing.

[00:20:22] I don't like that.

[00:20:24] The way that it took its arms up around and made these shapes and I, oh, man.

[00:20:34] And at one point, I thought it was as short as E.T.

[00:20:37] And then the next minute, it was tall and.

[00:20:40] Well, there was different ones.

[00:20:42] Yeah.

[00:21:10] There's a bunch of different separate ones.

[00:21:12] Then, like, which, I mean, that thing was scary.

[00:21:14] They made them based on sketches from the 50s.

[00:21:19] So.

[00:21:20] Yeah.

[00:21:21] But then, listen, the more of them we meet and we see different ones of different sizes and links and their body movements.

[00:21:28] And then they just get more and more disturbing as they go.

[00:21:36] So.

[00:21:40] How?

[00:21:41] But yeah, she's kind of facing off with this first one and she kills it.

[00:21:48] Stabs this alien in the head with some.

[00:21:50] At first, it was like some kind of random tchotchke she grabbed.

[00:21:52] It was like, oh, no.

[00:21:53] Bell Tower. Bell Tower from one of the model buildings.

[00:21:56] The new model. I think it was the new one she just got.

[00:22:00] I'm like, bell to the head.

[00:22:02] Which, again, a little bit of a foreshadowing of the way that she swings her left arm holding something and kills something with it without even really realizing she did it at first.

[00:22:13] A little bit of foreshadowing there.

[00:22:15] Definitely.

[00:22:17] But yeah, so it's like she killed it and I was like, alright, cool, movie's over.

[00:22:20] No? Oh man, what's gonna happen next?

[00:22:23] No, and you realize that once she gets through that process and she covers up the alien, the next day she's on her way.

[00:22:33] Well, first of all, her car won't start.

[00:22:35] So she decides...

[00:22:36] Yeah, not only the power is out in the house, but it was like an EMP situation.

[00:22:39] The car battery's dead, it's all.

[00:22:41] Yeah.

[00:22:42] She decides to drive to town and that's when we get this cool overhead visual where you see that little part of the grass that she was re-watering because she thought,

[00:22:53] why is this grass dead on her lawn?

[00:22:56] Well, it's because there's been a few landings in the area.

[00:23:01] Mm-hmm.

[00:23:02] It's just all over.

[00:23:06] Uh...

[00:23:06] And then, yeah.

[00:23:07] But yeah, she can't drive to town, so then she's got to ride.

[00:23:10] And then she sees the mail truck flipped over, which the guy that tossed the package was like, oh, douchey delivery driver.

[00:23:18] It looks like his whole mail truck got Kobe'd this time.

[00:23:20] And then I was like, I mean shooting the basket.

[00:23:23] You know what?

[00:23:24] There's not another term that fits for that because nobody's changed it because nobody says LeBron or Curry or Shaq.

[00:23:32] Well, nobody would say Shaq in that instance.

[00:23:34] But, uh...

[00:23:36] So it's Kobe'd.

[00:23:38] But yeah, it was just funny because I was like, yeah, douchey delivery driver.

[00:23:42] Got what had coming.

[00:23:44] I don't know.

[00:23:44] Yep.

[00:23:45] You think so.

[00:23:47] Yeah, gets to town.

[00:23:48] And again, it's just like, no one will save you idea.

[00:23:51] Yeah.

[00:23:51] She goes to the police station and doesn't even get a word out because there's Maude's parents.

[00:23:56] And it's like, yeah, again, at that point, I don't know what happened, but clearly there's some very hard feelings.

[00:24:03] She spits in her face.

[00:24:05] And the father, I mean, Maude's father just kind of looks at her.

[00:24:09] Well, then even the other police officers, which you would think like, well, that's assault.

[00:24:14] And they're just standing there like, I didn't see nothing.

[00:24:17] Nope.

[00:24:18] Doesn't matter.

[00:24:19] But she's completely freaked out by the entire experience.

[00:24:23] Right.

[00:24:24] Well, and so, yeah, I mean, nobody in town is going to be of help.

[00:24:28] And then after the way that they treat her, why would she?

[00:24:31] So I was kind of like with her.

[00:24:32] It's like, yeah, don't warn them about what's coming.

[00:24:36] It's like, I'm with you.

[00:24:37] Just maybe, yeah, hop on a bus.

[00:24:38] Say, fuck this town.

[00:24:39] Fuck these people.

[00:24:40] Fuck these murder aliens.

[00:24:41] I'm out.

[00:24:43] Get the heck out of here.

[00:24:45] Yeah.

[00:24:45] Yeah.

[00:24:46] So she gets on the bus and I knew.

[00:24:47] I recognized douchey mailman in the back of the bus immediately.

[00:24:51] Oh, you knew it was going to be good.

[00:24:53] I was like, his van was flipped, but he's sitting back there.

[00:24:56] And so I was like, what's going to happen?

[00:24:59] And then, yeah, I was like, oh shit, they're fucking body snatching out here.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:02] All right.

[00:25:04] I actually wrote down, what is this?

[00:25:07] Invasion of the body snatchers.

[00:25:08] Yeah.

[00:25:09] Okay.

[00:25:10] I'll take it because it's different the way that they're doing it.

[00:25:15] But I like how she was kind of trying to be incognito.

[00:25:19] She puts on a hat and glasses and gets a bus ticket.

[00:25:22] Which I feel like just makes you more conspicuous when you do things like that.

[00:25:26] I was like, who's the person trying to look for, you know.

[00:25:30] Absolutely.

[00:25:31] Unnoticed.

[00:25:31] Who's that?

[00:25:32] Absolutely.

[00:25:34] What are they hiding from?

[00:25:36] Yeah.

[00:25:37] Escapes the alien vessels.

[00:25:42] Again, because it's like, I was trying to piece it together.

[00:25:44] I was like, how is they like implanting something?

[00:25:48] And then we see later.

[00:25:49] It's like they do.

[00:25:49] It's like another, like, it's like asexual reproduction.

[00:25:55] But instead of like another alien, it's just this weird ball of tentacles that then can go in.

[00:26:01] It's a parasite.

[00:26:01] It's a parasitic kind of thing that, yeah, takes over a body, a host body and just kind of becomes part of the colony.

[00:26:10] The hive mind.

[00:26:12] The hive mind.

[00:26:14] So, yeah, but she gets away from those, runs to this church, locked out.

[00:26:18] But then there's a little cemetery by the church.

[00:26:21] And she looks at like this grave and has this like, ah, moment.

[00:26:24] And before it even showed it, I was like, how did I know?

[00:26:27] It's a mob.

[00:26:28] I was going to be in mom's grave.

[00:26:29] I knew it.

[00:26:30] And then you're looking at it and I was like, died at 12.

[00:26:33] Fuck.

[00:26:34] Yeah.

[00:26:34] But then I was like, but then that means it's been a while.

[00:26:36] And her parents are still that angry and hateful.

[00:26:39] So then it just keeps going.

[00:26:40] I was like, what happened?

[00:26:44] They're not going to tell us yet.

[00:26:46] Not yet.

[00:26:47] Because then while she's standing at the cemetery, we're getting all Independence Day level shit up in here.

[00:26:52] A little smaller scale, but like, yeah, the big storm system clouds coming in with the ships hidden inside.

[00:27:00] And then she walks through the, I mean, I don't know, the worship circle outside of a house.

[00:27:08] Yeah.

[00:27:09] Creatures are in the throats, just overtaking the bodies.

[00:27:12] They're all in sync, like looking up at the mothership or whatever.

[00:27:15] Yeah.

[00:27:15] And then all look over at her at the same time.

[00:27:18] It's like, uh-uh.

[00:27:20] Big boy, yikes.

[00:27:21] Me no likey.

[00:27:22] Yeah.

[00:27:24] Yeah.

[00:27:24] Not at all.

[00:27:25] Yeah.

[00:27:25] And then I was trying to think, like, again, I was trying to pick you up these parasite things.

[00:27:29] I was like, was the gray alien like just another body that was being controlled by it?

[00:27:32] And then I was like, no.

[00:27:34] But I was like, I don't know.

[00:27:35] Let me just see.

[00:27:36] But yeah, they like create it and spread.

[00:27:39] Yeah.

[00:27:40] Yeah.

[00:27:40] She goes inside and like sees that that thing had crawled away and kind of has pieced together what she's dealing with.

[00:27:47] And then she just goes straight up like prepping for this shit.

[00:27:50] Yep.

[00:27:50] I was like, I don't know what boiled water and nailed blankets are going to do, but she seems determined.

[00:27:54] So I like that about it.

[00:27:57] Whatever it is, she's after it.

[00:27:59] I think the water, she was thinking she could throw it on them or hit them with the pants.

[00:28:04] So that made sense.

[00:28:05] But I kept thinking.

[00:28:06] I was like, the whole time I'm watching the water.

[00:28:09] So I was like, this isn't signs.

[00:28:10] No.

[00:28:11] I don't know what you're expecting.

[00:28:12] The water to hurt it more.

[00:28:14] I mean, it's boiling, so it definitely hurt.

[00:28:16] But yeah, the same way it would hurt any living thing on Earth.

[00:28:19] I guess it's not.

[00:28:21] I want it.

[00:28:22] Yeah.

[00:28:22] We have to cover signs.

[00:28:25] I know you've seen it and you liked it.

[00:28:26] So that gives me some hope.

[00:28:30] But I didn't understand what nailing the blanket up was going to do.

[00:28:34] I guess she's just like, that'll keep them out.

[00:28:38] But if an entire real door isn't going to do it, then yeah.

[00:28:42] You might get 10 seconds out of it at the most.

[00:28:45] More like one second.

[00:28:47] Yeah.

[00:28:47] And then the ship comes back for the body.

[00:28:51] And then just keeps kind of poking around the house.

[00:28:54] And again, it was just lights in windows.

[00:28:57] Yep.

[00:28:57] But the production of this movie made that scary.

[00:29:00] So bravo.

[00:29:01] Well, because that giant beam.

[00:29:03] Nothing wasted with this.

[00:29:04] Yeah.

[00:29:05] Because the lights were one thing, but the beam that basically froze anything in its tracks or sucked it in.

[00:29:13] Like she had to let go of the pot because it's like, well.

[00:29:16] It was like crushed and then pulled.

[00:29:18] Yeah.

[00:29:18] Yeah.

[00:29:18] It's like this super high intensity like tractor beam.

[00:29:23] And it's like, yeah, you want to avoid that.

[00:29:25] And also just like avoid detection.

[00:29:27] But like.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:29] Get away from that.

[00:29:30] She's like down in the basement.

[00:29:32] Trying to like hide away from the one alien down there that came in through the little cellar door.

[00:29:37] And again, just the tension.

[00:29:41] And then when he does see her.

[00:29:42] Clever girls her straight up.

[00:29:44] Knocks over the mannequin.

[00:29:45] And then he's on the other side.

[00:29:47] Crouched down.

[00:29:48] Just looking at her.

[00:29:48] And I'm like, oh, he's just a curious little fella.

[00:29:51] Isn't he?

[00:29:52] Yeah.

[00:29:52] Curious.

[00:29:54] Curiouser and curiouser.

[00:29:56] That's for sure.

[00:29:57] But man.

[00:29:58] And just takes the.

[00:29:59] Telekinetically just pulls the scissors out of her hand and throws them behind him.

[00:30:03] Like, no.

[00:30:03] We're not.

[00:30:04] No.

[00:30:04] So terrifying.

[00:30:06] But then, yeah.

[00:30:06] Leaves that one behind.

[00:30:07] And then there's the like smaller one that's up in the other house.

[00:30:11] And I was like, yeah, the smaller one's like ten times freakier.

[00:30:14] These like sunken eyes and longer arms.

[00:30:16] No.

[00:30:17] I know.

[00:30:17] No, thank you.

[00:30:18] I don't like it at all.

[00:30:20] And the way it just sits there in the hall staring.

[00:30:23] Staring at both.

[00:30:23] This weird like X pose that it was in.

[00:30:25] I was like, what the fuck?

[00:30:27] No, I hate it so much.

[00:30:28] It was voguing.

[00:30:29] Pagan was voguing with the arms.

[00:30:32] It was voguing.

[00:30:33] Strike a pose.

[00:30:35] Oh, but yeah.

[00:30:36] Just.

[00:30:36] It's.

[00:30:36] Oh, they're so.

[00:30:39] Creepy.

[00:30:40] So creepy.

[00:30:41] And it's great.

[00:30:42] But yeah, take that one too.

[00:30:43] I mean, into the bathroom and then the broken mop and the cupboard door.

[00:30:48] It's like an old stab and whack routine.

[00:30:50] And I was like, damn.

[00:30:51] It's like, I'll be honest.

[00:30:52] All things considered.

[00:30:53] Brynn's kind of fucking these things up.

[00:30:55] She is.

[00:30:57] She is figuring it out as she goes along.

[00:31:00] She is.

[00:31:00] And then goes outside and then the limbs just keep getting longer.

[00:31:06] Yep.

[00:31:06] With the one that comes up over the other like house, the roof, which you can see the eyes

[00:31:11] of that one.

[00:31:12] Like this little slight glow in the background before it reveals itself.

[00:31:16] Beautiful touch.

[00:31:17] Love it so much.

[00:31:18] The creepy stuff.

[00:31:19] I love things like that.

[00:31:21] I mean, things like, you know, the ritual stuff like that.

[00:31:23] We're like.

[00:31:23] Yeah.

[00:31:23] Some people might miss it, but she goes outside, like, you know, falls out the window and gets

[00:31:28] away from that one.

[00:31:29] And then as she's standing there kind of catching her breath, you can see blurry behind her in

[00:31:34] the background.

[00:31:34] Those little eyes.

[00:31:35] Yeah.

[00:31:35] And it's just like.

[00:31:37] There's another one there already.

[00:31:40] Ready to go.

[00:31:41] So good.

[00:31:43] But yeah, the body movements made me very unhappy.

[00:31:47] I mean, they're.

[00:31:48] So creepy.

[00:31:50] Click, click, click.

[00:31:51] I mean, I don't know.

[00:31:52] It's kind of a toss up between the grudge, the strain, E.T.

[00:32:00] And invasion of the body snatchers meets war of the worlds.

[00:32:04] Like mash all of that together and you get this alien.

[00:32:07] Yeah.

[00:32:08] And his mannerisms.

[00:32:10] Yeah.

[00:32:10] But she takes that one out to kills it by blowing up the car that it was trapped in.

[00:32:15] I was like, that's fucking badass.

[00:32:16] And again, it's like she is fucking these things up.

[00:32:19] She really is a force to be reckoned with.

[00:32:23] You can tell like they're getting frustrated.

[00:32:26] They're like, shit.

[00:32:27] Like this is not as easy as we thought it was going to be.

[00:32:30] Hang on.

[00:32:30] Why aren't you going to fall in line like the rest of your friendly neighbors?

[00:32:34] Because I'm not my friendly neighbors.

[00:32:37] Right.

[00:32:37] And I've had to take care of myself.

[00:32:40] I mean, her mom passed away.

[00:32:41] I think the year on the gravestone was 2019.

[00:32:45] Yeah.

[00:32:45] And this movie, according to the director, took place in 2023.

[00:32:49] So she's been on her own own for four years.

[00:32:53] She's had to take care of herself.

[00:32:55] She's not had anyone to talk to.

[00:32:59] She's.

[00:33:00] Yeah.

[00:33:00] She's definitely going to have to take care of things herself.

[00:33:03] There's no one coming to save the day.

[00:33:06] Yeah.

[00:33:08] She's doing a great job.

[00:33:09] She's taken out like three of them at this point.

[00:33:12] She's been getting away from them.

[00:33:14] But yeah, big giant death beam.

[00:33:15] Still a problem.

[00:33:18] And especially when she's back in the house dealing with these things and she gets hit with the red beam that just keeps her frozen there.

[00:33:25] And it's like, yep.

[00:33:25] And they got her.

[00:33:26] She's the next vessel that they want.

[00:33:29] That was gross.

[00:33:32] Yeah.

[00:33:32] Because it telekinetically, it held her mouth open.

[00:33:37] Yeah.

[00:33:37] Without touching her.

[00:33:38] In the red beam and it just sailed right in.

[00:33:41] Yeah.

[00:33:42] And then she wakes up screaming in bed.

[00:33:45] Yeah.

[00:33:46] And then that next.

[00:33:49] You know, she's like freaking out thinking like that was the most hyper realistic nightmare in the history of humanity.

[00:33:56] Yeah.

[00:33:56] And she's kind of laughing to herself like that felt so real.

[00:34:00] Yeah.

[00:34:01] Of course, even then I was like calling it now before even things happened.

[00:34:05] I was like her body was taken over and her consciousness was sent to a pleasant dream space.

[00:34:10] Yes.

[00:34:10] It's an ideal life.

[00:34:11] And she kind of gets it's playing off of her memories and things in her head, which is exactly what happened.

[00:34:17] Because as you see the line starting to blur and the thing that she sees in this dream, you know, place that her consciousness is sent to is an older version of Maude.

[00:34:28] As if she would have grown up with her and was an adult now as well.

[00:34:36] And that's where we get the first and only words of this movie an hour and nine minutes into the film with I'm sorry, Maude.

[00:34:45] I'm sorry.

[00:34:46] And I I'll be honest.

[00:34:49] I was crying emotions.

[00:34:51] It got me.

[00:34:54] But but with that, that's how she knew that this wasn't real.

[00:34:58] And she pulled herself out of the dream by literally pulling it out of herself.

[00:35:02] It looked like she was shoving her fist down her throat.

[00:35:05] And I'm like, how is that possible?

[00:35:07] Good grief.

[00:35:10] That was wild.

[00:35:13] But she ends up outside and it's dirty.

[00:35:16] And she's just it's not the pretty picture we had just seen her in where all the sunlight was beautiful.

[00:35:23] And it was just wonderful and happy.

[00:35:27] That is not it.

[00:35:28] But she is outside and she basically watches the creature create.

[00:35:36] A doppelganger of her.

[00:35:39] Yeah, they had enough of her mind from the time that it was in there to make a copy of her, which then starts kind of the real emotional background of this movie.

[00:35:49] Yes.

[00:35:51] Yes.

[00:35:51] Where the symbolism there a little bit where she literally had to face herself.

[00:35:56] Mm-hmm.

[00:35:57] There's this version of her that she has to come face to face with that sees this living, surviving, thriving version of her and wants to kill it.

[00:36:09] Wants her dead.

[00:36:10] Yep.

[00:36:11] And she's having to face that.

[00:36:14] And with that, she puts an end to that version of her and is able to literally lay it down and let it go and leave it behind.

[00:36:21] Symbolism!

[00:36:22] Yes.

[00:36:24] I have a few thoughts on that once we get through the rest of the movie.

[00:36:29] I've got a few thoughts.

[00:36:32] Yeah.

[00:36:32] So takes care of that situation and then back out on the road and the aliens just keep getting bigger and longer.

[00:36:39] And then she's caught and abducted.

[00:36:43] And taken up into the mother's ship or one of the ships.

[00:36:45] There's a bunch of ships.

[00:36:47] And then they look into her mind and that's where we get the reveal of the truth, what happened, what's been haunting her.

[00:36:54] And again, the emotions, the tears.

[00:36:57] I was incredibly moved.

[00:36:58] Just the sadness of seeing a 12-year-old girl going through that and realizing that's what changed the course of her life forever and how much it's just impacted her and ruined things.

[00:37:13] And the way that the guilt and the shame and all of these things have just been weighing on her and she just lives with it.

[00:37:20] And that's the creature, the thing that is, you know, the way that these aliens kind of just broke into her house and take over this town.

[00:37:30] And those emotions, those feelings broke into her life and have not let go and have abducted any happiness in any future she would have had.

[00:37:37] She couldn't forgive herself for what she had done.

[00:37:42] And she lived in the continuous, never-ending cycle of no one else forgiving her either.

[00:37:50] So I feel like she never addressed what she needed to because she didn't have the support in place.

[00:37:56] We didn't get to see how her mother supported her after what happened with Maude.

[00:38:04] But I just feel like she didn't get what she needed.

[00:38:08] The whole town, they treated her terribly.

[00:38:12] And we're talking about a 12-year-old child who made a mistake and it was an accident.

[00:38:22] And what I got from the aliens and the way that they were acting at the time is that they could see that she was remorseful about what happened.

[00:38:31] But her community didn't see it, didn't want to see it.

[00:38:36] And then they could see that she had lived her life under a basic house arrest and accepted that this was going to have to be her life.

[00:38:48] She was never going to get anything more.

[00:38:51] This was it.

[00:38:53] No one talked to her.

[00:38:55] She had no future, really.

[00:38:57] And I think the aliens decided that she had suffered enough.

[00:39:01] Yeah.

[00:39:01] It's bad when they're coming down and they're killing and enslaving the human race.

[00:39:06] And they're like, but this one's suffered enough.

[00:39:08] She's been through enough trauma.

[00:39:10] Let's cut her some slack.

[00:39:12] But yeah, again, the emotional moment of that where we're seeing everything is where she's there to experience it kind of in person.

[00:39:19] She's walking around and seeing it and she's there.

[00:39:21] And that moment where she sees her younger self reaching for that rock and wants to stop herself but can't.

[00:39:29] And just living in that moment.

[00:39:31] And man, it's just like, again, just the emotional impact of that for me watching that.

[00:39:39] Yeah. And then – but after that too, and then she's with the beam over them sitting at the table and it's her and her younger self sitting across from each other at this table.

[00:39:50] And the aliens are watching this.

[00:39:52] And she doesn't look at herself with anger or hatred or disgust or pity.

[00:39:58] But she's looking at this younger past version of herself with love and compassion.

[00:40:03] And even if it's from herself in this weird time loop kind of thing, it's the only –

[00:40:09] Again, you mentioned we don't know what her mother's reaction and stuff was.

[00:40:14] But like at least in the past few years, the only warmth that she's had is now from herself in this weird mental space.

[00:40:24] Yeah.

[00:40:25] She's created this world like we talked about with her little village at the beginning.

[00:40:29] She created this little world.

[00:40:31] This is what she had.

[00:40:32] And I think this helped her process through to her own self-forgiveness and how she was able to finally let that go because she faced it.

[00:40:47] And I think she – all she got was torment from the town, was torment.

[00:40:55] Yeah.

[00:40:56] And I feel like the weight had just been on her for so long.

[00:41:01] And then we get to see what her life is like after because the aliens decided –

[00:41:06] Yeah.

[00:41:07] They were just – they were moved enough to that.

[00:41:09] They're like, yeah, she's –

[00:41:12] She's suffered enough.

[00:41:12] She's been through it.

[00:41:13] And it's quite – it's kind of a dark ending in the grand scheme of things.

[00:41:18] But like not for her in a weird way.

[00:41:21] You know?

[00:41:21] Like she's spared.

[00:41:24] But the rest of the town and we can even assume even the rest of the planet is probably taken over.

[00:41:29] Because you just got spaceships flying around all willy-nilly.

[00:41:31] They're not trying to hide anything.

[00:41:33] Like it's like full invasion.

[00:41:35] Mm-hmm.

[00:41:37] But she's still human and they left her here.

[00:41:39] And she's – she's okay with it.

[00:41:42] Yeah.

[00:41:42] She's like, well, this is better than the life full of people who hated and ostracized me.

[00:41:47] Like she finally has a community of people that she can interact with and enjoy spending time with.

[00:41:55] She's like, who cares if they're parasitic alien vessels?

[00:41:58] They're nice to me.

[00:42:00] So like this is cool.

[00:42:02] I can roll with this.

[00:42:03] I love the music number at the end that they're all dancing in the community.

[00:42:07] And then you're kind of like, wow, this is so different.

[00:42:12] And then the guy she's dancing with, you see his little parasite in his neck go off and you're like, okay, yeah.

[00:42:19] So she is living in this world and it's totally fine and I'm happy for her.

[00:42:25] It's like the aliens showed more humanity than the humans.

[00:42:28] You know, and I was reading an article about it that the way that they put it, I really liked it.

[00:42:34] It was almost like, you know, they – she killed a few of these aliens.

[00:42:37] It's like she accidentally killed one person as a – you know, and for life ostracized.

[00:42:43] She purposely killed a few of these and they were like, well, yeah, self-defense.

[00:42:48] Like they were like, no, you had reasons.

[00:42:50] You had right to.

[00:42:52] And this article was like, you know, you would think if some – if you were bitten by a dog.

[00:42:59] A lot of people's reaction is, well, okay, we're going to put the dog down.

[00:43:03] These aliens' reaction were, well, instead of putting the dog down, what if we could actually calm it down?

[00:43:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:43:10] Force it to sit still and then communicate and talk with it.

[00:43:13] Figure out what's going on with it.

[00:43:15] Why did it bite me?

[00:43:16] And then you feel sorry for it so you adopt it and then you have a relationship with it.

[00:43:20] Yeah.

[00:43:21] And you let it live and thrive.

[00:43:22] That's kind of what happened.

[00:43:24] Yeah.

[00:43:25] She got to live after how many years of being in her own purgatory, she was able to finally live and experience a much better life than what she was having.

[00:43:40] One with community.

[00:43:43] One where they weren't thinking about what she had done.

[00:43:46] Mm-hmm.

[00:43:47] And it was just, let's dance and have, you know, joy.

[00:43:52] And that's just not something that she'd been allowed to have.

[00:43:57] Yeah.

[00:43:57] Which – yeah, and then they don't go into it much and I don't think it's important.

[00:44:01] But, yeah, the purpose of the aliens, what are they doing?

[00:44:06] Because it seems like, you know, they're going in and they're able to access memories and emotions and they know how humans work.

[00:44:14] You know, whether it be just hanging up the phone and they seem not just to take over, but they're really studying.

[00:44:20] There's like an anthropological angle from this.

[00:44:24] Like, they're very much like, oh, yeah, we're coming in and we're taking over this planet.

[00:44:28] But, like, let's study and understand this human culture that we're coming into.

[00:44:32] And then they almost kind of take over and replace the humans here.

[00:44:38] But they're like, you know, some of their stuff was kind of cool.

[00:44:40] So let's keep that doing.

[00:44:42] Yeah.

[00:44:43] Yeah, we're taking in and colonizing this entire planet.

[00:44:46] But the culture was nice.

[00:44:48] Let's keep some of it.

[00:44:50] Exactly.

[00:44:51] When they were analyzing her, they were communicating back and forth like scientists.

[00:44:57] Like, you could see them in their alien language.

[00:45:02] Like, making a solution or making a decision on what they want to do with her.

[00:45:09] And it's just like, well, that's kind of what humans would do.

[00:45:13] Like, scientists would assess a situation and then make a decision.

[00:45:18] And they kind of did that and decided she'd suffered enough.

[00:45:22] And she deserved to have a little bit of life.

[00:45:24] And so, like you, I really liked this movie.

[00:45:31] It was something that endeared me to her.

[00:45:37] Because she still tried to be resilient despite the fact that she was so cut off.

[00:45:43] And then in the end, she gets in to have a life.

[00:45:47] And I enjoyed that.

[00:45:51] I liked the way that the story was told.

[00:45:53] You know who else enjoyed it, though?

[00:45:56] I did.

[00:45:57] Stephen King.

[00:45:58] He really liked it.

[00:46:01] He said you'd have to go back over 60 years to find a Twilight Zone episode called The Invaders

[00:46:06] to find anything remotely like it.

[00:46:09] It's truly unique.

[00:46:11] Brilliant, daring, involving, and scary.

[00:46:15] So, to me, that's incredible flattery coming from the king himself.

[00:46:25] Yeah.

[00:46:25] Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

[00:46:28] It was a great one.

[00:46:31] I'm glad that you suggested it because I probably wouldn't have done it on my own.

[00:46:37] So, I'm glad that you remembered it and put it into the queue for this week.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:45] Love finding, like, little nuggets like this.

[00:46:48] I know.

[00:46:49] We have the best conversations on things that I don't even think about it.

[00:46:56] And then I'll get to the end of watching a movie and be like, oh, my God, this is going

[00:47:00] to be one of those great discussions about something deeper.

[00:47:05] And I love when we have those discussions.

[00:47:07] I mean, I love when we talk about silly horror movies or, you know, different things, you know,

[00:47:13] any of the movies that we cover.

[00:47:14] But when we get to have a deeper discussion about something that we can personally connect

[00:47:20] to or whatever, I just really enjoy those episodes, too.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:25] For sure.

[00:47:27] I think those are some of my favorite things on this podcast, doing it for as many years

[00:47:30] as we have.

[00:47:31] I mean, obviously, like, the really goofy, fun, crazy movies that we can just be like,

[00:47:36] oh, my God, and we just nerd out about it and have a good time.

[00:47:38] That's always fun.

[00:47:39] But it is, I think, some of my favorite things are finding these movies that neither of us

[00:47:42] have seen that it's like, let's take a chance on it, and it ends up being something special.

[00:47:48] Yeah.

[00:47:48] It's one of the ones that I'm going to remember.

[00:47:51] Because there's always...

[00:47:53] I have this little list in my head of movies that I remember for different reasons.

[00:47:58] A lot of them are these deeper conversations, and it's definitely going to be one of those

[00:48:04] movies that ends up on that list.

[00:48:07] Because if I need to suggest an episode for one of my friends to go back to, it's often

[00:48:15] one that we have this deeper talk, or the subject matter is just so much further in and deeper

[00:48:26] than what I ever anticipate until we start talking about it.

[00:48:32] Yeah.

[00:48:32] So I hope that a good bit of our listeners actually checked this one out.

[00:48:39] And...

[00:48:39] Me too.

[00:48:40] I know it's a very...

[00:48:41] It's not a well-known one.

[00:48:42] I know some people who will, because they're great and amazing.

[00:48:45] Yes.

[00:48:45] And you know who you are.

[00:48:47] Yes.

[00:48:48] But yeah, but I hope we have a good amount that check this one out and can have experienced

[00:48:53] this one for the first time like we did.

[00:48:55] Yeah.

[00:48:56] Oh!

[00:48:57] Speaking of that, of course, maybe some of them did, and then...

[00:49:01] Well...

[00:49:01] ...wrote in, and we can see what they thought.

[00:49:02] All right.

[00:49:02] Sounds good.

[00:49:07] All right.

[00:49:08] We do have one piece of feedback for this week on this movie, and I bet you can guess who

[00:49:12] it is.

[00:49:13] It's the ever faithful, ever loyal, ever amazing Catherine.

[00:49:17] Yeah.

[00:49:17] It's got some great thoughts on this one, so I'll go ahead and read what she says.

[00:49:20] She says,

[00:49:20] I mixed on this one when the aliens were more Gollum-like.

[00:49:24] They were creepy, but I couldn't take them seriously when they were more human-like.

[00:49:27] The more the movie progressed, the less I liked Brynn, who initially I thought was like Maddie

[00:49:32] from Hush.

[00:49:33] Her aggressive self-defense instinct saved her from the alien's control, but it's also

[00:49:37] the reason why a child is dead.

[00:49:39] The town's reaction makes me wonder if her memory of how it happened wasn't completely

[00:49:43] accurate.

[00:49:43] I didn't even think about that.

[00:49:44] Yeah, me either.

[00:49:46] Good insight.

[00:49:46] She goes on saying,

[00:49:48] The ending didn't work for me.

[00:49:49] She killed several aliens, they reward her with her ideal society, and she happily coexists

[00:49:54] with them, knowing that most of humanity has been eliminated.

[00:49:57] Now, if we get a sequel and see her finding a way to remove the parasites and start an

[00:50:01] uprising, I'll happily apologize to Brynn.

[00:50:05] Oh my gosh.

[00:50:07] I get that.

[00:50:08] No, I love that you have that insight and that opinion and view on it, because I think

[00:50:14] even when we were talking about it earlier, it can be a little divisive, I'm sure.

[00:50:18] It's not your typical survivor ending of a movie.

[00:50:24] It is definitely a dark ending in a few different ways, the way you look at it.

[00:50:31] It's like, yeah, she's happy, but humanity's doomed, and it's like, to what end?

[00:50:37] Yeah, is she happy?

[00:50:39] Thanks for sharing that, Catherine.

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[00:51:12] We absolutely do.

[00:51:14] Of course, speaking of sharing the love, got to give those shout outs to things going

[00:51:18] on in the podcasting universe around us.

[00:51:22] It's Caramel Week.

[00:51:23] Caramel Week.

[00:51:24] Caramel.

[00:51:25] Caramel.

[00:51:25] Caramel.

[00:51:26] Whatever you want to say.

[00:51:27] I don't know.

[00:51:28] Either way, on the Great British Baking Show, so over on Strange Indeed, which is usually

[00:51:32] my other podcast, but I'm not on there over for that show right now, but Rima is joined

[00:51:36] by Wendy and Greg, and lots of great bake-off conversations and stuff going on with those

[00:51:42] episodes week to week.

[00:51:44] So if you're checking that out, it's a great palate cleanser.

[00:51:46] Pun halfway intended.

[00:51:49] I don't know.

[00:51:50] Come on now.

[00:51:51] There are enough puns on Buffalo Buffalo.

[00:51:54] Right.

[00:51:56] So yeah.

[00:51:56] So again, with a podcast on Strange Indeed, where usually me and Rima cover so many dark

[00:52:02] and twisty shows, for them covering Bake Off is kind of strange indeed and its own over

[00:52:09] there.

[00:52:09] So always something fun and new where we go to check out.

[00:52:12] But of course, over on the cast of us, Lucy and Jason continuing to cover Daryl Dixon season

[00:52:19] two, Walking Dead spinoff with Carol there in Paris with Daryl.

[00:52:25] That was, I don't know.

[00:52:26] How would you pronounce his name in French?

[00:52:28] Don't know.

[00:52:28] We'll never try it again.

[00:52:31] But yeah, no, that show's been interesting and they've been covering it all the way

[00:52:36] through.

[00:52:36] So definitely check that out if you're watching that.

[00:52:39] And then another one I got to give a big shout out to, of course, the Marvel TV cast.

[00:52:43] Penny and Jim have been doing an incredible job with Agatha all along.

[00:52:48] Man, episode six was incredible and their coverage of that was incredible.

[00:52:51] And my feedback of that was real.

[00:52:52] I'm just kidding.

[00:52:53] You can check that out.

[00:52:55] And then, of course, episode seven is out this week and was also really freaking great

[00:53:00] with some great reveals and stuff too.

[00:53:02] So I'm excited to see what they have to say about that episode this week.

[00:53:06] Coming up soon.

[00:53:06] So stay tuned to that.

[00:53:07] It might be out by the time you're listening to this or maybe they're recording it today,

[00:53:11] but then maybe tomorrow.

[00:53:13] But yeah, very soon you'll get their coverage of episode seven.

[00:53:15] Agatha's been incredible.

[00:53:17] Most Marvel TV shows I've really been enjoying.

[00:53:19] So this one is no different and maybe one of the best.

[00:53:24] So definitely check out that coverage over there.

[00:53:27] What is From cast?

[00:53:28] Of course, Alex and Lizzie continuing with season three of From over on MGM+.

[00:53:34] Again, that show has been incredible as well.

[00:53:37] So much good stuff going on.

[00:53:38] It's getting crazy, but I love it.

[00:53:41] Every episode, you just have no idea what's coming next.

[00:53:43] I love it too.

[00:53:44] Such a great show.

[00:53:46] And I've usually always said like, oh, people aren't watching it.

[00:53:48] More people are watching it now.

[00:53:49] And I love that.

[00:53:50] So like I can talk to people even outside of podcast about From in my daily life.

[00:53:55] And that's been incredible.

[00:53:56] Finally, yeah, I can learn about this show.

[00:53:59] So yeah, definitely check out their coverage of episode five this week.

[00:54:02] And they've been doing the live reactions and stuff too.

[00:54:05] And they have some special guests, of course, with they've been having actors and actresses

[00:54:10] and stuff from the show.

[00:54:11] They've had a, you know, Tamara Fifield, Katerina Buchalas and Cliff Saunders, which of course,

[00:54:17] Nikki, Clara, Dale.

[00:54:18] Really cool stuff to have like, like actors and regulars, cast regulars on that show that

[00:54:25] are just involved with their podcasting and discussing the episodes is so cool.

[00:54:31] Yeah.

[00:54:32] And Alex did an interview today with someone that they haven't interviewed before.

[00:54:36] I'm just going to tease that.

[00:54:38] You'll have to watch on their YouTube channel.

[00:54:41] Watch for those because they've been doing a lot of interviews with cast members.

[00:54:46] But yeah, there is someone they wanted to interview and have not been able to, but he did in fact

[00:54:52] today do an interview.

[00:54:54] So that will be coming out.

[00:54:56] So watch for that.

[00:54:57] Lastly, outside of Podcastica, of course, got to give some love to our good friends over

[00:55:01] at TV Podcast Industries.

[00:55:03] Just rocking all the stuff.

[00:55:05] Again, they're, they're double dipping in the comic book worlds with DC and Marvel at

[00:55:09] the same time covering the Penguin and Agatha all along over on their podcast as well.

[00:55:14] So give them some love and check out those episodes and their coverage there.

[00:55:18] And then lastly, of course, we want more me and Daphne.

[00:55:21] You can check out Buffalo Buffalo Weekly with our good friends, Jeff and Jerry, where we're

[00:55:26] just getting together, shooting the shit, talking, bantering about and playing games,

[00:55:32] making each other laugh, driving each other absolutely insane.

[00:55:36] Who knows?

[00:55:37] It's always fun.

[00:55:38] And you know what?

[00:55:40] That episode that we recorded in person is coming soon.

[00:55:44] But of course, as always, you know, you can come right back here next week and we'll have

[00:55:47] something fresh and new for you.

[00:55:49] Daphne, what are we working on right here on Winfrey Lives?

[00:55:51] Well, I don't know about fresh and new, Pake, but a mass killer escapes from a mental institution,

[00:55:59] returns to his hometown to terrorize babysitters on Halloween night.

[00:56:03] For our fifth Halloween special, we are covering the 1978 classic horror film,

[00:56:11] John Carpenter's Halloween, starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Donald Pleasence.

[00:56:16] And this episode will come out on October 31st.

[00:56:22] Yeah.

[00:56:22] So a day early, you'll get it on Thursday.

[00:56:24] Next week is Halloween.

[00:56:26] So happy Halloween a little early.

[00:56:28] And yeah, after you're done with your parties, you're driving to and from your parties.

[00:56:35] If you got kids after they're done with their trick or treating and in their candy comas,

[00:56:40] then you need a little bit of relaxing and listening to a podcast.

[00:56:43] We'll be there right there for you with our Halloween special.

[00:56:46] Yes.

[00:56:47] Going back to the basics, back to the classics after we survived those last movies.

[00:56:54] Survived?

[00:56:55] Yes.

[00:56:56] I think that's a great way of describing how we got through those films.

[00:57:01] Well, that brings us to the end of another fun episode.

[00:57:05] Thanks, everyone, for listening.

[00:57:07] I'm Daphne.

[00:57:08] And I'm Pake.

[00:57:09] And if you have to run, you better run for your lives.

[00:57:14] Bye-bye.

[00:57:15] Bye-bye.