67: The Real Good Guys (Skeleton Crew S1E8)

[00:00:07] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast. I'm Daphne. And I'm Peyton. And this is Star Wars

[00:01:06] TV Cast episode 67. This week we are covering Skeleton Crew season one of one, two, who knows? We still don't know. I'm sure. Stay tuned on the Facebook page and if any news comes out, I'm sure I'll just jump on there and post something randomly at any point during the year. Who knows? Hopefully we don't have to wait too long for anything confirmation wise, but for now we don't

[00:01:34] know. So season, series, we don't know. Either way, finale this week, episode eight, The Real Good Guys. SONIA DARA I'm so excited to talk about this episode, but I'm also kind of feeling like it's bittersweet because I've really enjoyed getting to talk about these characters for the last few weeks. And

[00:01:56] now we're closing this chapter at least. We don't know what's coming next. So while I'm excited, I'm also kind of sad because I would love to see this story continue and maybe it will. SONIA DARA Yeah, we'll talk about it. I've got some thoughts about even if we don't see Skeleton Crew again, there's still definitely aspects of this show and characters

[00:02:22] and things that we got here that could appear in other Star Wars projects that are upcoming. So who knows? SONIA DARA Yeah. SONIA DARA We may see stuff sometime, somewhere. I hope so because I really enjoyed what we had here. SONIA DARA Yes, me too. We've grown to love these characters or hate them and just get immersed in the

[00:02:45] world of At-Aton and space and all of their adventures. And now it's coming to a close, at least this piece of it. SONIA DARA Mm-hmm. SONIA DARA So what did you think overall for a finale? SONIA DARA Um, there's, it's been mixed reviews SONIA DARA Mm-hmm. SONIA DARA It's the only thing that matters. No, uh, to me, at least in that aspect. But, uh, yeah, I mean, a lot of people,

[00:03:15] me included, will say like, no, I think the more I thought about it, especially on a second watch and taking notes and preparing for this podcast, it felt better. SONIA DARA Mm-hmm. SONIA DARA I think on first watch, I was a little, I understand the sentiments of people going, that, that's it? Like, we're left open-ended with this character in this situation.

[00:03:33] SONIA DARA What about this? And what about that? And we didn't dive enough into that. And what happens next? And I, I totally get those. And that's valid questions. Uh, but I also think like, if this is all we get for Skeleton Crew, if there is no season two, if this was a wrap, a one-off, I think for the story about these kids and what it told, it's a good ending. It's a perfect ending. Like, yeah, there's still things that could be answered, but I think it was a good wrap up for them.

[00:04:01] SONIA DARA Yeah. And there's no saying that we're not ever going to see any of them ever again. Because the Star Wars universe has been going on since 1977. SONIA DARA Yeah. SONIA DARA There's plenty of time for future adventures, or cameos, or who knows? There's just, there's still potential for all of those things. Um, I'm happy with,

[00:04:30] with most of it. There were a couple of things I was kind of like, huh, okay. I wish that had been a little different. And I wish it had been longer. SONIA DARA Yeah, it was. SONIA DARA It felt a little rushed. SONIA DARA Like I've said, I've just jumped into the episodes each week without even looking at the runtime. I just hit play on Disney Plus the second it drops. But for this one, it dropped and I went and I looked at it. I was like, please tell me it's a good, like, solid. And then I was like, 40 minutes. I was like,

[00:05:00] SONIA DARA Not as long as I want it to be, but okay, we'll see. And also, maybe why I enjoyed it even more on second watch was like, not that I had specific expectations, but there, a lot of the first watch was me going, okay, are these weird, like, pipe dreams of cameos or connections or characters or this or that gonna happen? And so I'm like waiting for things to happen around each corner. And then they didn't. And even like the credits, like it ended. And I was like, are we gonna get a post credit scene? Is there gonna be a tie in? Is there gonna be something?

[00:05:30] And when then that doesn't happen? So there's like a little bit of disappointment, but it's not a with the show or the episode itself. It's just of expectations that I created in my own head that didn't happen. And that's not, that's not against the show. That's not their fault that I decided I wanted something.

[00:05:46] Yeah. I mean, it didn't deliver. Yeah, I had a few things. I wanted a little more at the end. But in the end, I do think the lives of these kids have been changed. And I'm excited for them, even if we don't get to see what the future holds, at least at this point.

[00:06:13] They're going to have a very different life. And I wish we could see more, but I'm okay. Like, I feel like I can let go of it. It makes me want more, though. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's what happened, because there were a few other things I was like, man, I just want more now.

[00:06:33] Mm-hmm. So we'll stay tuned and see what happens. Either way, yeah. Because I know there's some great other Star Wars stuff coming down the pipeline that I'm excited for. Will there be connections in those things? Who knows? We'll have to wait and see.

[00:06:52] Yeah. Well, we're going to be right back in a couple of minutes, and we're going to break down this episode for you. And we're back, Paik, for the last time. You want to kick us off?

[00:07:15] I guess I can do that. I don't have as many main points this week, as much as, like, really, I've got, like, three main points. And then I've got a few other notes and things, and we'll get to everything. But I'm trying to decide where I wanted to start. And I think, no, it's not the stop-motion movie that we covered on our other podcast, Run for Your Lives, but it's close. Wendell and Wham.

[00:07:49] Yeah, talk about the father-son duo that we got a lot of in this episode that I really enjoyed. And especially, surprisingly enough, Wendell, the father. Mm-hmm. And kind of his childlike coming out of his shell in his own way, this episode, which was really fun for me. I was a little concerned at first because they were having a home-cooked meal. Home-cooked meal. I mean, technically, yeah.

[00:08:19] It looked like a lean cuisine. Yeah. Okay. It looked like one of those microwavable kids' meals or, like, a frozen TV dinner kind of heated up in some thing that actually looked like one of those old Ronco, Ron Popeil food dehydrators. Yeah. So I was worried about that because they first showed that. And then, of course, Wendell starts saying, well, we're going to have to talk about your assessment.

[00:08:48] And I'm just thinking, oh, my God, we're going – nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. Yeah, it's just right back to, you know, okay, you went off on your space joyride, but, you know, you've got to come back to reality. You've got to be grounded. You've got to be back here.

[00:09:02] And Wim is frustrated but also terrified because, like, he's in this place where Jod has sent the droids home with them to, like, big brother, watch over them and record and monitor everything they say and do to report back to Jod so that they don't say or do the wrong thing or anything that's going to, you know, mess with his plans.

[00:09:27] And so Wim is terrified of saying or doing the wrong thing for his safety and especially for his dad's while he's also trying to convey some kind of message to his dad that things are not okay and things are not fine here and that there is something wrong. But trying to do it in, like, this cryptic way and he's getting frustrated and there's this argument that they're having. And I couldn't help but kind of laugh a little bit, as intense as the argument was, of the droid's head kind of bouncing back and forth with the two of them like it was watching a tennis match. Exactly.

[00:09:57] Yeah. I thought that was kind of funny. But then Wim catches himself and stops himself when he's saying, but he's not even a – and he's like, I got to, you know, calm down before you say something. And then he tries to tell his dad in this more cryptic way that Jod is bad. He's like, but there's some people out there that are trying to ruin the good things. And Wendell is not getting it. It's just like, well, that's what the supervisor's for.

[00:10:26] And it's like, God, this guy – oh, I feel for you, Wim, buddy. Like, I'm so sorry. Well, and Wendell's not very happy that Wim's reaction to the assessment isn't like, oh, yes, I really need to do that. When Wim's reaction really isn't about that. It's about the situation that's going on that he can't talk about. Yeah.

[00:10:56] I mean, Jod was incredibly smart to do this. He's very intelligent. And that came across in this episode with some of the things he did. Sending the kids home with droids to babysit them, basically. And act very much like the emissary. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Wim just trying to, like, deal with this being watched at every second at home. And, you know, no, I definitely wasn't talking to Neil on the walkie.

[00:11:25] I'm just playing with my action figures. It's no biggie. Whatever. We need to save the princess. Yeah. But, yeah, because he's just – he's frustrated at needing to convey a message to his dad and not being able to. And so when the supervisor goes down and the power grid goes down and the droids go down, he finally has that chance. And, you know, there was so much just pent up. Like, he had to have so much joy in being able to push that security droid over.

[00:11:54] He's probably been wishing he could do that for a long time. And finally to be like, look, Dad! You know, it's like, finally I can tell you what's going on. And it was like almost he was talking too fast because he was trying to get it all out at once. Right. It's like, I don't know how long – how long is this going to last? The power's going to come back on. The droids are going to come back on. I've got to get everything out right now. Yeah. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. Yeah.

[00:12:20] And then with the speeder bikes, at least, you know, the bikes are working so they can get on those and take off. And you have Wendell just, like, again, not listening to what he's saying. Like, I should have listened to you. But then you have this opportunity again. He's like, Jod's not a good guy. He's here to hurt us. He's trying to take – like, he didn't save us. He practically kidnapped us. He's using us and manipulating you. And he's doing – he's like, we have to – like, Fern is in danger right now. And we need to save her. We've seen things. We've experienced things.

[00:12:50] We know what we need to do. And Wendell's like, oh, just go home. Let the – whatever. Handle it. We – you know, he's just not listening. The safety droids are down. And he's acting like they're not. He wants to take Wim to a safe place. And Wim is not having it because all he can think about is Fern. Yeah. And so he's basically just ignoring his dad. His dad's like, just come back here and do this. He's like, no. No. And I'm like, I'm just – and I like that, you know, he's like, trust me. Like, you said you need to listen to me.

[00:13:20] So I'm reiterating that to you. Just listen to what I'm saying. You know, give me some crazier trust that I know what I'm talking about. And I like this. So Wendell then does, you know, what he seems to think is right, which I'm glad he does, where he takes a speeder bike and takes off after them. Isn't that that bully guy? Yeah. It was the same kid that was like messing with Fern and KB in the first episode about racing them and calling them, you know, waste-oids and stuff.

[00:13:52] But yeah, he catches up with them and again is trying to stop them, but then he gets caught up in the vein and the pirates shooting at them and maneuvering around where he just kind of gets caught up in the action. And through that, he kind of gets sucked into the mission. And I think it's this inner child and Wendell that he has been starving, locked in a cupboard for so long, you know, like, finally.

[00:14:17] He's always been so under control, like so tightly wound and so in control that letting loose, I think he almost lost his mind. Yeah. It was where you see, like, he's worried, you know, like, we're going to jump this ravine. He's like, I'm heavier than you guys can handle. It's like, just trust KB. Also, yes. Like, at this point, I think I'd follow either of them anywhere. Yes. They've proven themselves.

[00:14:44] And then just that jump and making it. And then that was the big turning point. Wendell's excitement after the jump where he's like, woo! And like banging on the bike and he's having. And then the little smile that it puts on Wim's face. Mm-hmm. Maybe the most adorable thing I've seen in a while. Just there's that connection of like, oh, you are capable of having fun of being. Yes. Not just this tight one all the time. Yes. There is joy that you're capable of having and it makes Wim smile.

[00:15:14] And then he's like, dad, come on, we got to keep going. And then he's hooked. He's in at that point. I love that. Kru's getting back to the ship and then realizing, oh no, we've got to turn the power back on on the landing bay so we can get out of here. Yes. And officially that is the one and only time ever that level seven systems coordinator will ever sound that cool. Yes.

[00:15:36] But it was so cool to hear Wendell say that to Wim and have Wim, you know, just be almost in awe. Just like, oh, is this what it is? Like, is this what it really is? And he's like, get the bike. And they just take off. It's like, yeah, he's fully invested in this mission. And I think it's great. Yeah.

[00:16:03] With them getting to the tower and, you know, you have Wim and Fern bouncing off each other, spinning this wild tale of finding an ancient crystal of the founders and being allies to the Jedi who've lured Jod into a trap. And Jod knows it's all fully BS, but it is giving Wendell that distraction that he needs to power up docking clamps so he can free the onyx sender. And then we just see throughout the rest of, like, the episode while they're up in the

[00:16:29] tower from turning back on the power to, like, trying to go for the lever and, you know, jumping, getting up and punching Jod in the face. That was my favorite part of this episode. I was ready for someone to do it. It's like, Wendell really just found his inner adventurous hero today, didn't he? Yes. It's been long dormant and he finally, his son brought it out of him. Yes. And it has been much needed. And you know, their relationship is going to be so amazing moving forward from here. Yes.

[00:16:58] I think that it's definitely been put in a better direction. And I love that. So, yeah, that was really just kind of first thing is just like the growth of Wendell that we finally got to see that he, you know, that it was, it took Wim not listening to him, but finally waking that up in him and him seeing kind of, you know, he didn't go out into the galaxy like his son did, but he's just even on at Atten, he's being opened up to a bigger

[00:17:28] world, a bigger importance of what life can be versus just the great work. Yeah, exactly. I feel like too, Wim is always thinking about Jedis and looking up to Jedis and wanting this different life. I think he got for a little bit, he got to see his dad as a hero. And that was amazing because they've been on this journey, even though their screen time

[00:17:56] together has not been much. Yeah. What we saw in this episode, they went a full journey in where they were at the beginning to now, where I think there is a common understanding between the two of them. And it woke up Wendell's inner child and he needed that to happen. He forgot what it was like. And I don't know, maybe it could be that the grief of losing his wife and all of that.

[00:18:25] And he just put himself into work. I don't, I don't know. But this bonding experience that they had in this episode, I think you're right. It's going to change everything for a good, for good, for them going forward. I'm glad that you decided to start with that because I feel like it's such a positive, happy thing. Yeah.

[00:18:53] And it's one of a few happy things that happen in this episode. I kind of want to talk a little bit about KB and her adventure. Yeah. What she went through, but also the difference that you see between KB and her mom's versus what we saw from Wendell and Wim. Yeah. Because you can understand or you see KB's parents have 100% faith in their daughter. Yeah.

[00:19:23] It's very much a pushing, not like, you know, aggressively or anything, but yeah, they push her to explore her capabilities. It's like, yeah, they're worried about her, her OGS and worried about her health. And there's things that they are concerned about, but at the same time that they don't let that hold her back. And it's kind of this, I was like, how do you know how to do that? Well, that's great. Then that's what you feel like you need to do. Do it. Like we believe in you.

[00:19:52] And she tried to warn her parents to hide because they saw the frigate coming in and they knew, you know, it was not going to be pretty. But I love that when KB is dealing with the ship coming back down after going up to send the message to Kim. Her, you know, she's trying to fix everything because it had been hit and attacked.

[00:20:19] And her, her moms are just like, you can fix anything, sweetie. You can do that. You know, you can do this. They're so supportive and it's a different relationship. I think each of the kids with their families, they have, it's different. And I feel like in this episode, we got to see it. Yeah. Especially with three of them. Not so much with Neil, but I think what we saw from him is something different that we'll talk about.

[00:20:49] We didn't need to see a family dynamic relationship for him. What we needed to see for him was what we saw. We needed to see more of his love and connection with Bats because he's quite a fan of us. And I'm sure he'd probably been in there since the second he got home. He's like, oh my God, finally warm water and cleanliness. I've missed this. Definitely. Definitely.

[00:21:17] And tied to the KB story, we got the return of 33 coming in to help save the day and help land the ship so that they would survive. It was great. It was great that she was able to get him working. I mean, who else but KB could fix 33? Well, I mean, I told you last week. You did. You did. 33 is fine. Decapitation can be just a mild speed bump for a droid.

[00:21:46] Especially one as determined as 33. That is true. That is true. His head is not back on his body, but he is still very much functioning. He's got it. There was definitely some comedy between the two of them because she was trying to hold his head while he was steering and she was doing some other things. And it got a bit complicated. But I mean, who better than KB to go up and send the message to Kim and let her know what's

[00:22:15] going on and that they need some help? Because Kim had told them to reach out if they needed some help because she knew everyone knew Jod was bad. Yeah. We should have trusted her even more back then in episode two or whatever. Like, man. Warnings all around from everyone that they met and still not enough. So, yeah.

[00:22:40] I'm, you know, KB survives despite the fact that it looked a little scary, but I didn't see the ship blow up. So I kind of assumed that things were going to be okay. Yeah, that's, or I was like, even on first watch, I was fully convinced that she was fine. I was like, yeah, there's no explosion. Went down. It's like, did it, did I still tear up a little bit? Yes. And that's mainly because of Fern and her like pain scream that just like hit me emotionally and then seeing Wim with tears in his eyes.

[00:23:09] And I'm like, I'm like feeling emotion. I'm like crying along with them. Like, but in my head, I'm like, it's fine. She's okay. I promise. I've seen enough Star Wars and other stuff to know she's fine. But watching their despair, like that they were so distraught and worried about her, especially Fern. And I think part of that comes from what happened a couple episodes ago with the whole Fern going

[00:23:36] one way and KB going the other because KB knew what her capabilities were. Yeah. I feel like their friendship grew from that experience. And Fern was afraid. You know, what if this was too much? You know, that's at least that's what I think was probably going on in her head. What if this was too much for her? Yeah. And she couldn't do it. And yet she still believed in KB, like Wim.

[00:24:07] They believe in each other. I want to go back and watch the first episode again just to see and have that reminder of just how far the four of them came together. Yeah. Because they definitely grew into this unit. Yeah. I feel like I will definitely be rewatching this series for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. And I'm not a Star Wars person, but I really have enjoyed this so much.

[00:24:36] It's just been a great time and the characters are so fun. So where would you like to go next? Next. Let's talk about your favorite character. So we have to go there, Peg. You want to go to Jod? Yeah, absolutely. Jod. Jod. None I would. The liar. Jod the fraud. Jod the fraud. That's great. Yeah. No, definitely.

[00:25:03] I've got a lot of thoughts about him for sure that are all over the place. Good, bad, in between. But yeah. Get into it. Yeah. As I kind of figured, I mentioned last week with that cliffhanger, lightsaber was just a flex. I think it was dual purpose, possibly a reminder to the kids of his threat, but also like a

[00:25:29] flex for the parents to be like, hey, look, I'm a cool Jedi emissary. Glad to be of service. See how much authority I have. Listen to me and follow my commands. You know, like that was definitely what that was for as well. Yeah. And then him having the security droids monitor the kids at all times. So they can't say or do anything to jeopardize his plans while also getting the kids out of his hair. Uh, and you can see by their reactions.

[00:25:56] I talked about with Wim and his dad and even like with Fern, you really don't see KB or Neil too much with their parents, but, but you can see they're taking the threat seriously. They're not saying anything too serious to their parents. And then he sees that Fern has that capability of her, you know, defiance that she just, so gotta get those props to Ryan Keira Armstrong playing Fern. Like the just defiance burning in her eyes.

[00:26:24] She has perfected that look and it's incredible. She has. Like, okay. Yeah. I'm keeping you. Oh my gosh. Keeping you with me because your liability. Yeah. And, and basically taking Fern and Farrah hostage in a way of being like, yeah, no, I'm going

[00:26:50] to need to keep you on a very short leash to remind you of like exactly how serious I am. Going up and seeing the supervisor. Murdering the supervisor. Oh, poor Stephen Fry. He got Stephen Fry'd. Thanks for lending your voice to this wonderful TV series. Yeah. Pretty much completely shutting down the planet. Everything's just run off of this droid, this supervisor.

[00:27:22] And you know what he says to Farrah? I was like, I would say if you took him at his word, which we've learned you definitely can't. But like, I'd say that. No, we can't. His offer originally of, well, let me take my fill of credits and then I will leave. Honestly, it'd be like, yeah, that's great. Like we, we meant, we can print more. We can save our people. You'll go away. We'll put the barrier back up and all's fine and dandy. But Fern is right. She knows he's not going anywhere. No. The power is too tempting.

[00:27:50] And even if he did leave, he'd just keep coming back again and again for more. Once he's tasted it, he's just going to keep coming back. It's like a drug. Yeah. Yeah. They would never be safe from him and his pirates. And so, so Fern is defined in that way of knowing, like, yeah, do not take anything he says seriously. Like, do not trust him ever. Yeah, you can't. And I know that I've tried to see good in Jod. You have.

[00:28:20] A lot over this series. You know, maybe he still has some goodness in there or good intent. And I have some thoughts. We'll get to them. But, but no, like, once he's literally enslaving an entire planet, like, I guess it's time to just admit that he's fully just a bad guy. You know what? There is this thing that keeps coming around. When I was putting my notes together and rewatching it.

[00:28:47] He said, you think you can send your ship out for help. You don't know what you've done. And I just keep wondering if there's something he knows that we don't know. Yeah, I don't. And that there's something that's negative about getting the help that they received from Kim.

[00:29:13] What, what I take that to mean, and I mean, that's one thing you can take, I guess, seriously that he says is because of his conversation with the supervisor. He realizes, even the supervisor, this entire planet is living in an older, an old republic timeframe. This new republic, he has no idea on. So I'll, this, it's an extra note that I had, but I'll get into it.

[00:29:42] Um, about the supervisor. Because I picked up on something there and then it'll tie into your question there. Uh, because yeah, with the supervisor, as I was figuring, yeah, he's in fact a giant droid. Just running everything algorithmically for peak productivity. But then the supervisor catches Jod on a lie. Although, for Jod, it's not a lie.

[00:30:05] And that was the hint that gave Jod the, the, the recognition, or, you know, that, oh, these guys are living far in the past. Is where the supervisor says, you know, well, the very last message from the republic is all Jedi are traitors. Yes and no. Um, and so I went on a little journey. So here's my journey. Cause I was trying to figure out what that meant. And then, cause I was confused about something I said last week, I think. And so I had to go on a little journey. So I was like, I can delete my message. And they come in.

[00:30:34] I was like, nope, we're going to go on the journey with me. Um, my notes, but. I was like, maybe Eric Voss can shine some light on this one, but I think I figured out some stuff. Okay. Teach us, Peg. Explain it to us. So yes, the original republic, which turned on the Jedi and became the empire. But for some reason in my head, I thought Wendell and Farrah referred specifically to the new republic last week when I said, you know, oh, find a republic emissary. And then I was like, that would be the new republic. So they're working with the new republic.

[00:31:04] So does that mean they know about blah, blah, blah. And so for some reason in my own headcanon, I thought that they mentioned the new republic. So I actually had to go back and rewatch that scene from last week and realize I misunderstood. They never said new. They just said, find a republic emissary. Because there's this point where I was like, why would the new republic have an issue? Because like, I thought that's what they, because it was like, new republic has no issue working with Jedi. Ahsoka Tano, Kanan Jarrus, Ezra Bridger.

[00:31:35] Like, yeah, they're more rebel alliance, but. You know, they're not in new republic leadership roles really by any means, but they're not viewed as enemies. And so I was like, so the supervisor is running off of old republic right before the creation of the empire standards. Basically that order 66 turn where the republic becomes the empire. Where that was, that's what order 66 is. Is the Jedi or public enemy number one kill them all.

[00:32:02] And so it's like, that's where, that's the last message from the republic that the supervisor has. So that's years and years and years in the past. I mean, that's when, you know, Anakin becomes Darth Vader in a way and all of that. And so you're going way back. Like, uh, so that's, I was trying to put that. I was like, so it has been that long since any emissaries or even contact with the outside galaxy has occurred for at Atten.

[00:32:28] And then I remember the supervisor even saying, like, I was starting to think we'd never see another republic emissary again on our mint. You know, like, it was like, okay, so it has been that long. This is pre empire since an emissary has even been to at Atten. So I just assumed they meant new republic, but, but no, uh, I, when I said I went back and rewatched the scene from last week and they said republic emissary. So at Atten, its citizens, even the supervisor have been closed off from the galaxy to where they think that like the original republic is still in charge.

[00:32:59] Uh, which then again, I'm thinking back to older episodes. Like, yeah, that makes sense. Cause the kids, when they would talk to Kim, didn't know about the clone wars and any of the empire stuff, the galactic civil war, like none of that registered to them at all. So like all at Atten nights, is that what we can call them? I don't know. Like across the board, even the supervisor, like they don't know that the empire was ever a thing or anything that's happened ever since. So it's like, okay, that makes it.

[00:33:28] And that's why Jod looks so confused when the supervisor catches him in that quote unquote lie where he's like, well, are you a Jedi or emissary? Because the Jedis are traitors to the republic. And I was like, yeah, back at the turn of the empire they were. A long time ago in a galaxy far away. Yeah. So like, so I guess there's still in that time period over here. Like that's, you can see that kind of click in Jod's head where he's like, he's confused at first.

[00:33:55] He's like, oh, we're, they are way behind. Um, which maybe is a little triggering for him since we know his backstory a little bit. Uh, I'll get into that later. Um, so yeah, so to answer your question in a long winded way, uh, yeah. So I think what he is referring to is he's like, oh, you guys are sheltered beyond even what I thought where you are still living in like older republic mindset.

[00:34:23] You don't know what's out there and nobody else out there knows you and what you, so it's like when he says, you don't know what you've done. It's like, you're letting the new republic in there. They know about where you are now. They know what they're going to learn. What's been going on here. And everything is about to change your planet. It's not a secret anymore. Everything you've been told and taught and think is going on has not been going on for a long time.

[00:34:47] Like, it's like you're in for an away cause like you have completely upended everything that this entire planet has ever stood for or thought it was. So it's like that. I think that's what he's referring to is like by letting the new republic into at, at, and you don't know what you've just unearthed, what you've done. Like nothing will ever be the same here. But you know, it's not really their fault. They were driven to this. He drove them to this. Oh yeah. It's his fault.

[00:35:17] So what? They were supposed to just be prisoners and make him money and. That's what he wanted. Yeah. No, that's not okay. People being oppressed is not. Yeah. And I mean, I'm sure he has a healthy distrust of the new republic for whatever reason. So he, I don't think he has really good intentions, but like there's maybe some part of that warning is like, well, good luck.

[00:35:40] Cause now the new, the new republic is going to, you know, seize control of this place and it's going to be an asset to them. And they're going to, I think going back to, I give some shout outs to Eric Voss. As I mentioned new rock stars, I love watching his videos to break down stuff afterwards. Cause he's talked about that a lot with like the mint, the importance of that being like, yeah, whoever prints the money and decides the value of money in the galaxy has the power.

[00:36:08] And so the new republic now has kind of control of Ad Atom at the end of this series. That's a lot of power. And Jod probably doesn't trust the new republic for a lot of personal reasons to be like, yeah. Okay. So you asked, like, I'm not going to have control of this planet, but good luck being under their control. Who knows what they're going to do? Well, he goes on this little mini monologue where he says, I don't want to hurt anyone. I don't want to damage this wonderful planet.

[00:36:38] He wants them all to go back to the great work and carry on exactly as they were before. Just to make him money. Just to make him money. He wanted to become the new supervisor and just do that. But he wasn't doing it in a way that was, I mean, he might've thought about it. Honestly, if he had come back with just the kids, it might've been a little bit different for him, but he didn't.

[00:37:05] And he came back and he had that whole ship that was waiting on the other side that he had to deal with. And so it was more complicated. Yeah. Bringing in all the, I mean, I'm sure if it would have been just originally coming back with the kids, he would have found a way to try to reach out to his old crew and figure something out. And to get back into Brutus's good graces. Brutus is long gone now. Yeah. There would have been something he would have planned, but yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:35] Uh, I tell you, there was a speeder bike headed for your location. Don't worry. I got him as to, as Wim steps out of your labor. I love that. I was like, sure you got him, Vane. Sure you did. You thought so, but nope. We did get Jod's story a little bit, which you touched on a little bit where he mentioned he was basically starving, living in a hole when he met a woman who saw potential in him. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:03] So here's my other side of, again, I'm not going to excuse the things he's done. I'm not going to try to say he's a good guy, but it is a believable origin story. It explains so much for who Jod is. So yeah, his backstory. Yeah. As my thing that I thought about last week, my kind of theory, he wasn't a youngling at the temple. Like I was thinking, you know, in the wake of order 66, but it did still affect him.

[00:38:31] Uh, and I think it actually explains him incredibly well. He wasn't trained in an official capacity by the Jedi at the temple. He was just some street urchin kid who was taken in by a Jedi who was on the run from the empire. A Jedi unnamed, whoever this woman, this Jedi woman is, but honestly, a major hero in her own right.

[00:38:53] I think whoever this unnamed Jedi is, because instead of hiding and running away to some swamp planet of Dagobah, like Yoda, she decided to try to build back up the Jedi in some way. Even if it was just a small thing of finding some broken boy who she saw potential in and who he could wield the force if he was trained.

[00:39:16] And so she devoted time and energy into him, giving that boy, Jod, some sense of hope and justice in the galaxy. And for some tiny little bit, you know, try to help him. And then it backfired because really then what happens is he only ends up seeing the evil of the galaxy. Mm-hmm. When she is found by the empire and killed right in front of him.

[00:39:40] And so really the lesson that young Jod Nana Wood learned that day was that no good deed goes unpunished. And so he's better off putting himself first as maybe she should have done instead. Mm-hmm. And so it honestly is a very believable origin story for the mad captain that we all know and not so much love now. You know, like, it didn't, you know, it wasn't the backstory we were expecting. No.

[00:40:09] But I think honestly, especially off the second watch and really breaking it down, I was like, oh no, this explains Jod perfectly. I get him. Well, he says, the galaxy is dark with only a few pinpricks of light. And for those, I'll kill who I need to kill.

[00:40:25] So that gave me kind of hope that while he is driven by greed and power, there's still parts of him where he does care about the light. Yeah, there's those little pinpricks.

[00:40:46] And so, again, after first watch and going online and seeing some of what people were saying about it and people like one of the big, I don't know, gripes, but complaints or concerns are people being like, how believable it is at the end. You know, oh, Wim's got the lightsaber and they've broken down the barrier. And so he just throws down his pistol and gives up. Like, is that the Jod that we know? And so I thought about it a little bit. And so here's my pinpricks of light that maybe still exist in Jod.

[00:41:15] With the barrier gone. Yeah, like, I do wonder. I was like, why does he just give up that easy? Why does he just throw down the blaster and be like, whatever? And again, I'm not excusing his actions, but I do truly believe he never wanted to hurt children. Hurt the kids. I don't think he did either. I don't think so.

[00:41:39] I mean, because, yeah, at that moment where, you know, Farrah and Wendell pull the lever, the barrier goes down and Fern and Wim are standing across the room from him. Wim with lightsaber in hand. Like, yeah, he could have taken his blaster and just blasted them all away and killed them all right there. Wim doesn't know how to use that lightsaber. He's an easy target. Like, he could kill all of them right there in that room easily. No problem. But for what reason would he have to do that? He's not a child killer.

[00:42:08] I don't think so. The New Republic is coming. They're going to be here any second now. He's beat. Why cause unnecessary violence and heartache when he's not going to come out on top for it? It's not going to benefit him to kill them or hurt them. So, like, that's kind of my take is, like, he's resigned to knowing he lost and he has no reason to ruin any, you know, innocent lives. He's like, whatever. Like, at that point, he's like, there's no purpose in me hurting or killing you. I've lost. You beat me. I'm just going to accept it.

[00:42:39] And I think he needed to use the time that he had to try to figure out what he was going to do next. Because standing there and hurting children or killing Farrah or Wendell, none of that was going to get him anywhere. Yeah. That was a distraction that he didn't need to have at that time.

[00:43:03] The line you mentioned from after his story, when he's holding the lightsaber to Wendell, he said to find them to get them, you know, I will kill who I have to kill. But in that moment, he doesn't have to. No. It won't serve him. It won't do anything for him. No. So he, you know, retreats kind of. Yeah. Having the barrier down, the lighting in that room changed. Like, it was so cool. And it reminded me of something earlier.

[00:43:32] When we're seeing the frigate come in, we're seeing it from so many different angles and from different perspectives, from different people who were seeing it and watching it come in. And I also, I thought that was equally as cool. Just this ship and the people seeing it. And all I could think of is the little dog. I guess it was a dog. I'm not sure what it was. It was barking at it. And I'm like, yes, you know, animals know. They know, Peake.

[00:44:02] They know when things are bad. They know the bad people. Yeah. So with Jod, I mean, after that, that's the last we see of him. Really. We don't know what comes of him. At least for now. In future things. Who knows? I feel like Jude Law as Jod, Na Na Wood, Captain Silva, whatever. I could see him returning in some capacity. Even if it's not a season two of Skeleton Crew.

[00:44:29] I can see him being in the Star Wars universe in some capacity. But at least for now, I mean, this is what we get of him. We don't know what happens to him. He watches the frigate fall from the sky. But he's still in the tower. We don't know where he goes from there. We don't know what lies ahead for him. Mm-mm. No. I feel like we don't know what lies ahead for anyone, really. Yeah. We know that they're alive and that their world is going to change.

[00:44:58] And that's really what we're left with. There's not a lot of... I mean, there's not a fast forward 10 years from now. This is what they're doing. It's basically, you know, it ends with Wim looking up into the sky. Yeah. And I think for him, he was kind of hopeful. Like, his world is so much bigger now than it was at the beginning of the series. Yeah, it is.

[00:45:26] Where he doesn't have to look at being, you know, like his dad. Yeah. I thought it was very poetic in that way. Not just Wim, but then like everybody else. Like, it's a great tag to end the episode on as the skies and access to the larger galaxy are finally open. And when we have the New Republic on Ataten, hopefully they're going to be rebuilding. But who knows then what role the New Republic plays on Ataten.

[00:45:56] The things that I mentioned that Jod could have been worried about or at least thinking about. Who knows what that means for this planet. But I feel like even if it's not a continuation of this show, like Ataten stands to be very important for the other stories in the Star Wars universe that are happening right now in this time frame. Stuff that's coming up still in the future. I mean, namely like Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Those stories are happening in this exact same time frame.

[00:46:25] And Ataten itself as an asset to the New Republic could end up playing a big role in either of those series. You know, we know Ahsoka season two is they're going to start filming in April, I think. So it's coming up. And then the Mandalorian movie is in the works. And I feel like there could be some fun connections in that. We could see skeleton crew characters, people, connections at Ataten, whatever in that movie.

[00:46:54] Who knows what's to come? Yeah, I think that there's potential for a lot of things. I do hope that if Ataten becomes, you know, a major player or part of the bigger universe, that they will revisit it and we'll maybe get to see some of these characters again. I've just grown really attached to them. I think that they've been so much fun to watch them kind of. The actors and the characters just grow.

[00:47:24] And I'm not ready to say goodbye. So I'm hoping maybe there's a season two or there's some sort of follow up where we see them again. But if not, I guess I'll have to live with this being it. Mm-hmm. I guess if you wanted to see if you can see them again in something else, then you're going to have to get caught up on the Star Wars universe a little bit. No, I don't know about that. Guess who's got to start watching Ahsoka now?

[00:47:54] You've been encouraging me to watch it. Yeah, I think you've seen all of The Mandalorian, right? I have, yeah. I feel like you have. Yeah, Ahsoka, I think you'll enjoy it to an extent. It is one of those things where, like, knowledge of the entirety of Rebels is important for a lot of things. And I had that going into it, so I don't know how I can say how much you would enjoy it without that knowledge. Because that's not the viewpoint that I came at it from. But I don't know.

[00:48:23] I think maybe even without that, I think you can catch on a little bit. It's a fun series, and it could have some implications in the future. I don't know. Well, we'll see. Yeah. There's a lot of great TV that I have to watch. Yeah. All right, so there's my long-winded essay about Jod and all of his things. Can we talk about Neil? He's never forgotten Haina or her planet.

[00:48:54] Yeah. That comes in very handy. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, of course, he's part of the group with Wendell and KB and Wim when they're on the hover bikes going to, um, going to rescue Fern. Unfortunately, he gets hit and he falls off and decides that KB's going to need some cover if she's going to fly the Onyx Cinder out.

[00:49:23] Mm-hmm. And I kept thinking, what do you think you're going to do? And of course, he remembers where there was this gun from Matt Akron. The turbo laser. And he goes just like Haina's planet. And he just goes and finds it and uses it. He only really gets one or two, like, good shots off before. But it's enough to distract the frigate to allow KB to get by. Yeah.

[00:49:52] And I feel like, Neil, this was his hero moment. Yeah. It's something that he's always been a bit timid about some of the things going on on this adventure. But this was his moment to not hesitate and just go for it. And that's exactly what he did. Mm-hmm. And I loved that. I love that we get that moment from him. Yeah. It was great. Like, the growth.

[00:50:21] Like you mentioned, to go back and watch where these kids are in episode one would definitely be interesting to see just, like, how far they've come to now. Where, again, the timid little dreamers that they were in episode one to, like, the actual heroes of At-Atten in episode eight. Like, it's incredible. Imagine Wim and Neil playing with sticks, lightsabers. And in this episode, Wim's actually holding a lightsaber.

[00:50:51] Yes. Which... I mean, come on. I mean, I gotta say, Wim wielding that lightsaber the correct way this time, it does look incredibly awesome. It was an image that I was just like, yeah, I love that so much. He's so fierce. He's so fierce with it. Yes. So fierce. I only have one more point.

[00:51:12] It really is about Fern and her mom and how Fern gets her mom to understand that what they're being faced with right now is incredibly dangerous. And while the outside is crazy and scary, there are good people out there who can help them. Oh, yeah.

[00:51:40] I have that exact quote. That was the one thing that I had to, like, let me pause and, like, type word for word because it was really cool. Yeah, the galaxy is scary and dangerous. Everywhere we went, even the worst places, there were good people too. People that can help us. You have to trust me. Mm-hmm. And Farrah seems ready to, like, she's ready to, but not at the expense of her daughter getting shot. Like, she wants to protect Fern.

[00:52:10] Yeah. I think Jod, again, that defiance in the eyes of Fern that I'm giving so much credit to. But, yeah, he sees that there's that dynamic where, yeah, the plan was I'm going to threaten Farrah's life so that Fern does what I need to do. He quickly turns to, like, no, the weaker one of the two mentally right now is Farrah. And I'm going to have to hold Fern's life in balance in order to get Farrah to do what I want to do because that's going to be the easier task.

[00:52:40] Because Farrah doesn't want to destroy the barrier. So she tells him that she's got an alternative which would allow his ship to come in. And Fern doesn't want her to do that because she knows that Jod is a liar. And Farrah has to do it because she doesn't want to lose Fern. And so she's going to do what she has to do.

[00:53:08] But I thought it was very fitting that when it came time to destroy the barrier so that the X-Wings could get in to save them, it's this moment between Farrah and Fern where Farrah finally gets it and trusts Fern. And with Wendell's hand on it as well, they pull the lever that destroys the barrier.

[00:53:37] Yeah. And thus changing everything forever. Yeah. Which Jod was kind of hinting at that we talked about. It's like, yeah, I mean, they don't know what they've done. They really have set the course of Atten differently forever. Like, nothing will be the same. Yeah. I'm really interested who set up these planets to be this way with these mints and hidden.

[00:54:05] And, I mean, it was done so long ago. And the fact that they've been able to continue existing, it's... Like, it had to have been some Republic senator or something that had it set up to benefit the Republic. And then when the Republic switch defeated the Separatists and then Palpatine took over and Order 66.

[00:54:32] And, like, during that switch to the Empire, whoever was in charge of the At planets, the jewels of the galaxy or whatever, whoever was in charge of that part of the Republic obviously got lost in the shuffle. That was something that the Empire didn't have access or didn't know what was happening.

[00:54:55] It is something that during the change of regime was lost in the shuffle because it's not like the Empire knew what was going on because these places had been hidden. Mm-hmm. So it's like when the Republic died, everything about this project with these planets died with it. And they've just been living in kind of their own secret little algorithmic bubbles for forever. Yeah.

[00:55:20] But there's been whispers of things of the existence, but nothing concrete. It's all been like it's a dream or it's a pirate tale or it's just out there, but it's not real. No one really had proof. Mm-hmm. And now here it is. There are the coordinates. Do you have any notes?

[00:55:48] Well, I had one last point, but I think we covered most of it in other little points and notes that we've had because it was kind of like the kids fighting back their plan one last time. And we've covered a lot of it. It's just like them realizing with the frigate coming in and like it's up to them to do something. Like they're the heroes that it's going to be or it's all over because nobody else knows what they're up against like they do. And so, yeah, we like we began full circle. We're back to kids on speeder bikes.

[00:56:18] Yeah. And then just like we've talked about their plan of getting back to the Onyx Center, getting getting Kim, the X-Wings, the New Republic fighters to come in and dispatch the pirates. Going back, you know, using the shortcut where they found the ship in the first place to get across town. There's all these like full circle kind of callbacks to the beginning again. And this time they're being chased and shot at by pirates, but more equipped to handle these kind of things at this point.

[00:56:47] You talked about Neil, which was incredible. 33 we talked about. Yeah. And then even like the other. Yeah. The plan was like KB gets the message out, but then the barrier has to go down in order for it to actually mean anything. And we talked about that a little bit too. With Jod didn't want it to happen. And I will say as much as like he didn't want to hurt any of the kids, there was the one moment where you see it in his eyes of like, I will kill who I have to.

[00:57:16] And there was this moment where he was like, this is a have to moment. He shot at Fern to kill. It was because Farrah jumped in the way and, you know, pushed her out of the way that saved her. But he took a kill shot at Fern at one point. So, I mean, he will cross that line if he has to. So I'm not going to like be an apologist for him. You can't because he's bad. I'm not going to say that he can't be redeemed at a later date.

[00:57:41] I just at the job as what we saw as we left it is not someone who can be trusted to do the right thing or do good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's just using his powers of force ability and just sheer violent threat to keep the lever from being pulled the best he can. But we see that. I mean, these kids and their parents working together just through sheer will managed to beat him.

[00:58:09] And so I guess really only other thing also when they go back to KB, his dog pile of friends on a gold pile of credits was beautiful. I love that she wakes up and said, did we win? Did we win? Of course she did. So one last note that I have on that section and then I've got some other notes, I think. But one thing that I still I have no idea what to think of it. And I feel like I had a good reading on whim most of the series. But like there's the point when they're going.

[00:58:39] They're leaving the tower to go check on KB. So maybe you have some thoughts on it. Why do you think whim yells out for Jod before they leave? Because there's that moment where they're leaving and he looks at him and goes, Jod. And then he just kind of shares this look and then the elevator closes and they leave. And it's like almost like, are you going to come with us? Or is it like I was like, what? What was the purpose of that? I still don't really know what was with that with Wim.

[00:59:06] Wim and Jod had a bonding moment a couple of episodes ago. Yeah. Where Jod gave him that advice about not having attachments. Yeah. I think Wim wants to see the good in Jod. I don't think he sees it, but I think he wants to see it. I think right now they've won. But it was confusing.

[00:59:33] I had to go back and watch it a couple of times because I wanted to like listen to the inflection in his voice and the way that he said it. So I was really confused about it. Because it was. It was. Again, that inflection in his voice was almost like a tone of concern. Like, what's going to happen to you? Like, that's kind of what you read into that. Well, what now for you? Where are you going to go? What's going to happen? And I was like, why would you care? I mean, just a minute ago, you're like crying being like, you know, you're no Jedi. You're a liar. You're the worst person ever. And then.

[01:00:04] I don't know. It's just like. There's still. Yeah. Like there's this connection with Wim that like there's some part of him that like still has this connection to Jod and has this concern of like. Maybe he said sees wants to see some good in him. Like you could become something. And I hope you do. I also wondered if he was worried. That Jod was going to go do something else. That was bad. And he wanted to keep him close.

[01:00:37] But given everything that they went through in the tower, I just don't see how you have a relationship with him when he tried to kill Fern. I don't. Held a lightsaber to his dad's neck for a while. Like and. Yeah. The things that he. Yeah. It's like. It's hard for me to be like to see Wim. Then wanting to turn and like reach out to him because it's like there's enough for that to Wim should be like done with Jod. Yes. Absolutely.

[01:01:06] There should be no communication. Honestly. Other than to arrest him if they wanted to. I mean to arrest him. Yes. But that would be it. Like I just don't see that. I thought it was kind of like a dangling thread. Yeah. And I wanted to pull it but we weren't allowed to. Yeah. So it's the one thing in the episode that I really can't.

[01:01:36] Yeah. Put my finger on it. I understand. It's like it is. And it's not really a complaint. It's just like a. What was that about? I want to know. Yeah. It really confused me. And I think it was a thread that was not. Completed. Like it was a line that wasn't completed. Yeah. It was one of those dangly things. And. Without a season two coming because we don't know. I am not sure what that really means. Yeah.

[01:02:05] And I do have to wonder if maybe this. What. Being defeated by. Wim and Fern. If he will take this. And his experience with them. And look at them as being part of the light. In the galaxy. And maybe he will change. Inside. Based on this.

[01:02:36] That's a lot to say for him. Like that's a lot to expect for him. At this point. Yeah. I mean. I'm the one since he turned on them that said no. He's. He's bad. And I'm. You know. I was right. He is bad. And. People around me kept saying. Oh no. This is Star Wars. Everyone get. You know. Things will. There'll be some big thing he'll do at the end. And. I'm like. No. I don't think so. Not this time. I. I just don't see it. Not.

[01:03:03] With everything we've seen leading up to it. I just. I think he was always this person. I think one thing we can say. Is that. It's not an excuse. But he has reasons for being the way that he is. Yeah. Absolutely. You know. He probably looks at those kids and realizes. That they had the childhood he wishes he could have had. Mm-hmm. And he's probably. Resentful. Yeah. There is that. We talked about it last week.

[01:03:31] Especially after learning his backstory of being like. I mean. He said. When I was your age. I was. Living on the street. Fighting to survive. To find food. Mm-hmm. So you don't know how good you have it. No. They don't. They didn't. And now. They're at Ataten. The barrier's down. Things have changed. They're never going to be the way that they were before. They were never going to be. From the moment they left Ataten on that ship.

[01:04:01] Their lives were never going to be the same. Even if they had come back two days later. Yeah. Because they had had an experience that made them see that the world and the universe was a much bigger place. Yep. So I think there's just this piece of whim that wants to hope that Jod has good in him. Mm-hmm.

[01:04:30] And that's my only thought on it because I'm really confused. It was interesting. It was weird. But yeah. I had to make a note of it because I was like, what? What was that? Yeah. Yeah. It's true. I guess the only other notes that I haven't covered yet is, and I kind of already did mention this a little bit, is, you know, when the barrier comes down. And it's just the people of Ataten seeing stars in the outer galaxy for the first time ever is huge. It's quite something. Yeah.

[01:05:02] And then, yeah, New Republic. Then it was just, yeah, my own little, and I mentioned this on the top of the episode, of like my own little, like, things that I was like, ooh, expectations. That aren't going to happen, but maybe. And it's fine that it didn't. But yeah, when you see those New Republic, the X-Wings and the B-Wings and these things coming in, and it's like, I'll admit, like, I was really hoping to see a familiar face or two that I had talked about. I was like, come on, Carson Diva, Zeb Aurelios.

[01:05:29] You know, maybe this is a big enough issue that we got to bring in General Harris Syndulla with Chopper in tow. Yeah, right. But a boy can dream. You know. What you don't know is that in between last episode and this episode, Peck has schooled me on Chopper. Chopper's the best. The war criminal we all love. Yeah. I found nothing redeemable about him on any video that we saw, but okay. But yeah, no. And it's okay that there wasn't.

[01:05:58] It was just my little fanboy heart wishing for some fan service. But yeah, no. And it's fine. But yeah, I was still wondering at the end, like, is it going to tie into the larger Star Wars universe in some way? Familiar characters? But again, no. At least not yet. But that's also totally okay. It still might. Like I said, we don't know if there's going to be a season two. These characters could appear in other projects. Like I said, Mandalorian movie and Ahsoka season two. Could be fun connections, but who knows? Yeah.

[01:06:29] My last thing that I want to leave with is this. It's a Wendell quote. And it was after they saved KB. And he said, you don't want to have a whole adventure just to get crushed at the end. And that is not something I ever thought we would be hearing Wendell say. Yeah. But that just shows that he's changed. Like he's different. He's loosened up a bit. And I really loved that.

[01:06:59] Yeah. But that's all I have. Do you have anything else? That's it. I have run out. We've well run at the dry. Oh my goodness. That's a wrap on coverage, I guess, for at least our notes and our thoughts there. Well, we'll be back in a couple minutes with some listener feedback.

[01:08:04] We're back. We have some feedback. There is a bit of feedback here. And I'm going to start us off. Megan sends in. We are tragically behind, but our family, ranging in age from 11 to 45, was intrigued by the first episode when we finally watched it last weekend and are going to give it a go through the series. My husband had dropped out of Ahsoka and Acolyte after an episode or two.

[01:08:31] So the fact that he's willing to come back here is promising. I thought it was pretty clever. Loved the design and world building of the kids' home planet and the Goonies, Stranger Things, and E.T. vibes. Honestly, after just one episode, the number one rooting interest for me is I want to see the sweet little elephant kid get back home safe with his sweet little elephant toddler siblings. Oh, yeah.

[01:08:56] And we got a chuckle out of the blue milk, quest for power converters, and a bunch of other Easter eggs that we noticed. We'll be starting your coverage now. Awesome. Thank you. Hope you enjoyed the rest of the show, the series, and our coverage as well. Hopefully it was good for you. Let us know. We may not be recording any more episodes, but we still want to hear from you on Facebook and stuff. Yes, please. Yeah. The next one comes from Alicia, who says, I hate Jod.

[01:09:26] There, I said it. Thank you, Alicia. You can join your club. So, Peek, I liked your backstory prediction better about Jod being a young Jedi during the Order 66. I also didn't love the ending to this episode. A little bit of suspension of disbelief how the kids disarmed Jod. Wim doesn't really know how to use a lightsaber, and Jod just stands there with blaster in hand and just gives up. Okay, so I did address that. Maybe my thoughts on it helped you or not. That's fine either way, but yeah. Let me know.

[01:09:56] She goes on to say, though, I know I know this is a kids' show, but it just didn't mesh. It did kind of leave us hanging, too, in the final scene. Will there be a second season? It's possible. Overall, I love the series and give it four out of five gold credits. All right. Thanks. Matt sends in, really enjoyed this season so far. The final episode appears in the early hours in the UK, so looking forward to the podcast. It is really well set going into the finale.

[01:10:24] Any indication yet if there is a second season planned? That is a question. We don't know. No. Not yet, but like I mentioned earlier, stay tuned to the Podcastica Facebook page and stuff, because the second that I know the answer to that question, I will let everybody else know. What I can promise you is this. If there is a second season, we will come back to cover it. Absolutely. Gotta do it. This has been a blast. Yes.

[01:10:53] All right. And then we have one from Catherine. It says, what a wizard adventure. Yes, Catherine. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It was wizard indeed. Wim nailed it with, so we blast off, call the real good guys, and beat the pirates. I was disappointed by Wim's dad at dinner, but his hoverbike skills and level 7 systems coordinator status redeemed him. One of my favorite parts of Phantom Menace was the pod race, so I loved the hoverbike action.

[01:11:19] I was really wrong about Jod, but I appreciated his complicated background. Seeing Neil's three little siblings made seeing Neil nearly blown up twice rough. After the trash crab episode, I knew KB could handle that landing. Fern's talk with her mom hit hard. Even in the worst places, there are good people that can help. I completely forgot about Kim, and I'm so happy SM33 and Snowball had a part to play, too. Well, I loved everything about Skeleton Crew. I hope there's a season two, but I'm also happy with how they wrapped up this story.

[01:11:49] Ah, Catherine, we hope there is a season two as well. If not, we will have this season series to look back on and enjoy. So, we'll leave it at that. What I do have is, believe it or not, a live Steve. Yay! Yay! And here it is. Hello, Peg and Daphne.

[01:12:15] This is Steve, and this is going to be for the season one finale of Skeleton Crew. I just looked at all the flashing of the helmets and the robots, and was the last shot, was that a, what is the SM33? And of course, Peg, you're right, it was a misdirect. Of course, he lights the lightsaber, and then he just as quickly distinguishes it. Distinguishes it? And of course, Jod is still pretending to be the emissary, but he's, oh, he's going to take Fern off by himself. Oh, that's not good.

[01:12:40] When pretending to play with his toys instead of, so he doesn't tell the droid he was talking to Neil, it's great. Oh, and now we're about to meet the supervisor. And the supervisor is a droid. I had to pause it on this. This is great. So, they received a message that all the Jedi are traitors? When did that happen? And man, Jod couldn't use that lightsaber. Oh! And he just put his lightsaber through the supervisor's eye. And causes the whole city to shut down. Oh, that's brilliant. There's just a button marked barrier override. Really?

[01:13:10] And the frigate is through the barrier. Whoa. And Wynn just said the title of the episode, the real good guys. Mic drop. However, bikes work. They made it. Even Wynn's dad is laughing and having fun. It's an adventure. But this is serious stuff, though. Oh, the power is out, but he still has power to this intercom system that can talk to everybody in the whole city? Or the whole planet? Jod, I mean, telling the planet that he's taken over. Oh, Wynn's trying to bluff here with this, what'd he say?

[01:13:38] The stone of the founders? Oh, she was able to bring, what's this 33's? Oh, robot. The robot back to life. Great. And he's flying the ship, and she's going to get out of there and hopefully be able to call for help. But Jod's got the rest of them in his clutches. She's holding just his head. Okay, KB got a hold of Kim, but I still think I'm suspicious of this Kim Howe. There was no explosion. The ship didn't crash. She landed it. Oh, Wynn said it again. The real good guys.

[01:14:09] Mic drop. And now we learn Jod's origin story. It was found by a female Jedi who trained him a little bit, and then she was killed. Okay, there are X-Wings and Y-Wings, and I guess she was telling the truth. Here they come, the new Republic to the rescue. Oh, and the barrier's gone, so that had revealed. Oh, the destruction of the frigate. Jod just has to look on. I guess maybe the ship did crash, and there's KB and all those credits. 33 did say he just landed it, so. Well, I guess that's the end.

[01:14:37] They won, and maybe we'll get a season two, hopefully. Awesome. Oh, Steve, thank you so much for sending that in. So appreciated.

[01:15:11] Well, Paik. We did it. We did. We have no idea what's coming next, if there'll be season two, if there'll be a movie, if there'll be any connection to these characters ever again. My hopes are that we get a season two. If not, I do hope that we see the characters again. And I don't care if it's in 10 years. I don't care if it's when they're grown up and they're adults. It's fine.

[01:15:40] Just, it would be cool to see what happens to them. If anything, at least we've got this to go back and re-watch, and I fully dove in with recording and podcasting and just letting my nerdiness on this show fully overtake me. So I have all my Funko Pops and my Skeleton Crew t-shirts that I bought, and I can just enjoy those as well. They'll stay with me in some form and fashion, literally, in different ways.

[01:16:07] Well, I hope it wasn't too painful recording this podcast with someone who is not well-versed or versed at all in the Star Wars lore. Yeah, I had a great time with that. It's fun. You allowed me to nerd out and blabber on about Star Wars history way too much sometimes, and that's okay. No, it's been great because I've learned a lot. I feel like I could hold my own now. I have some knowledge.

[01:16:36] I'm not going to sign up for a Star Wars pub trivia event, but I do feel like I know much more than I did before. And that's a good thing. It's a fun universe. I love it. So, yeah, and thanks to Jason and then even like Jonathan and James and everybody else who's done stuff on this podcast on Star Wars TV cast to allow us the opportunity to helm

[01:17:06] this starship for at least these eight episodes in this series. Really appreciate the opportunity. This was a lot of fun. So thanks so much for having us and thanks to the regular Star Wars TV cast listeners who've stuck with us. I know sometimes if you're like a big fan of a podcast, then you got some new voices coming in that you don't recognize. Maybe it's a little difficult or different. So if you've stuck with us and enjoyed it and listened in, thank you so much. Thanks for having us. It's we feel very well. We definitely do.

[01:17:35] It's been a ton of fun to get to do something different. All right. Well, for the final time, at least for now, that is our show. Thanks for listening, everyone. Yeah. And if you'd like to write in any kind of things, again, stay tuned for stuff. But yeah, if you've got other thoughts, feedback for this series, again, even if we're not recording any more episodes, we still absolutely would love to hear your thoughts on Facebook and email and things like that.

[01:18:04] So definitely reach out to us at SkeletonCrew at Podcastica.com or just go to Podcastica.com and find the links to Facebook pages and all those kind of things and email other places as well. And yeah, keep the conversation going. Find us in the Podcastica Facebook page and the groups and the threads and chats and all of those things and come say hey. While you're there, be sure to check out some of our other shows. Lots going on and lots coming up. Yes.

[01:18:33] Squid Game is halfway through, I think. Yellow Jackets is going to be starting. I think Cobra Kai is coming back again. And The Last of Us is coming in April. Yeah. A lot of stuff coming up with Podcastica. Also, if you are an avid Podcastica listener over the past year or so, give a little tease

[01:18:59] on here because Run For Your Lives, our other podcast is on its little break right now, so I can't tease it over there for our listeners. But if you were here this time last year, beginning of the year, I did a little top Podcastica shows of the year kind of awards show kind of countdown. So, if you're in the Facebook group for Podcastica, be on the lookout for that in the near future for the polls for you to pick your favorite shows. And I'll do that in the next several weeks or so.

[01:19:27] We'll make that happen soon enough. Yeah. I'm excited to do that again. We'll see what your favorite shows of 2020. Yeah. I'm excited to see what tops the list this year. Again, that is our show. Thanks for listening. And this has been So Wizard.