It's the final this week and Jason comes back to talk it through with us! Another great season of The Great British Baking Show with lovely bakers and amazing bakes. Join us as we break down Collection 11 E10, "The Final" including our our favorite bakes and stand out moments!
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[00:00:30] Hey everyone welcome to our bonus edition of Strange Indeed dedicated to the great British baking show this week recovering collection 11 aka season 14 episode 10 the final.
[00:00:48] Welcome back Jason. Yeah, I'm happy I'm here too because this was quite quite an episode really got me this was like I'll tell you what that little opening snippet had me watching for exactly that moment throughout the entire bloody episode what was it and it was prune going.
[00:01:14] This wasn't Joe best work. Oh, I was like when is it coming when is it coming when is it coming I was like oh my I was seriously like I mean because I watched this like 2 30 this morning yeah like.
[00:01:28] Oh shit like when you think about it it sort of makes sense it was Josh because he has been so consistent you know so to say that to him because others have messed up more.
[00:01:43] But anyway yeah I was just I was like I was like okay well that is obviously like a negative so when is it coming is it coming in the signature is it coming in the showstopper is it coming in the blah blah blah blah and we will talk about all of the things but I was like.
[00:02:00] Like I was literally edge of my seat and it was.
[00:02:05] Okay maybe not literally maybe I was lounging back in my chair but I felt the edge of my seats.
[00:02:11] The tension was there absolutely.
[00:02:16] Yeah this one this one was interesting I think there's I haven't had a chance to get online a lot to see what reactions were from fans online but I'm curious to know whatever one thought
[00:02:33] because I think a lot of folks probably expected it to go one way so I don't know interested here and I can't wait to hear what y'all have to say so let's go ahead and jump into what we thought this week so we always like to kind of start with each.
[00:02:49] Bake and talk about our favorites are just you know standout moments for the signature banks and talk about them individually in the bakers so the signature bake this week were eclares oh my gosh I love a clairs.
[00:03:04] Really beautiful little bakes they had to create two different types of a clairs the requirements is that they did have to have different flavors and then.
[00:03:14] Some decor was a requirement and then they did get a warning that they the judges expected them to be able to balance the elements like the shoe pastry and the filling of course would be key so Jason do you want to start as our guest sure I mean my first thought is.
[00:03:34] Dan you let you didn't put the sugar on it with the hell you're in the freaking playoffs here you're the finals.
[00:03:42] You can't forget stuff like that that put him off on a bad start right off the bat.
[00:03:49] It did and he even made a comment he's like well leave it to me to forget something because he's done it throughout but I mean you're right you're exactly right but it's like.
[00:04:00] I mean I mean harsh but it's like as they made a point to say you have to put the sugar on or it won't be crisp and then they're like that would forgot my sugar did you put sugar on yours yes did you.
[00:04:12] But look you know I love a clairs to ends they all look great but I think my favorite before we found out how they turned out I already knew it was Josh's a Claire filled with coffee pastry cream talked with dark chocolate.
[00:04:29] I like chocolate and coffee and I was like oh that is the best flavor combo let's see how it turns out and then it turned out perfect like she proves that it was.
[00:04:44] She said I love coffee clairs and it's perfect and chocolate Paul said the chocolate levels good in the coffee coffee levels absolutely spot on so I was like yeah that's probably the one that I would be lighting up if I was in the crew hoping to get a bite.
[00:04:59] And they were perfectly filled like when they get into them there were like no gaps or holes or anything they were just perfectly filled and I was like that that's just perfect you know you can't even see what you're doing but he just he did it so well it was interesting to see him.
[00:05:15] You know his parents talking about him and how he just he aims for perfection and he'll keep trying over and over again until he gets it as good as he possibly can and I'm like yeah that matches up with what we've seen of him.
[00:05:28] And it's such a I don't give it a head but he didn't really achieve that with his show stopper and that's what did him in if he would have you totally want to one whole thing I think.
[00:05:39] But he kind of slopped on the decorations at the end so I choked a bit we'll get we'll get we'll get to that yeah we'll get to that but because I definitely have opinions on that but.
[00:05:52] Now I agree with you the coffee is like the muted flavors like that I also just call them darker flavors are my favorites too and I feel like Maddie had a was it a hazelnut what was the what was Maddie's yeah Badafi with the Anna one.
[00:06:14] Peacock and Praline yeah the pecan well I thought Dan had the praline no on top. Oh, maybe he just had a summer fruit punch jelly with a salted caramel mascarpone cream of praline ganache okay the praline ganache is what I was thinking of but but yet the banana and the walnut like I I'm a sucker for banana walnut ice cream.
[00:06:40] I don't know that but but Binafi I don't know really what that is obviously there's banana in it but is it like a toffee.
[00:06:50] So you hear Badafi a lot on the bake off and so I finally decided to look it up I wonder if it was a big thing and per jet chat GPT which I've been outsourcing a lot of my stuff too lately it says
[00:07:04] Binafi pie is a British dessert pie made from bananas whipped cream and a thick caramel sauce combined either on a buttery biscuit base or one made from crumbled biscuits and butter
[00:07:14] it's named sometimes spelled no it doesn't matter as a portmanteau combining the words banana and toffee
[00:07:20] Binafi pie was created in 1971 by I guess you don't need to know all that but now it's just used in English
[00:07:27] in English to describe any food or product that tastes or smells of both banana and toffee and I this whole time thought it was a banana and coffee which I had me really excited but it's banana and toffee which is also pretty good.
[00:07:41] Yeah when you were talking about caramel I was like oh it must be toffee yeah yeah it's basically just really really thick caramel
[00:07:48] I wish there was more of that here in the States that I went one off.
[00:07:51] That does sound really good.
[00:07:53] Yeah yeah it's something you don't see paired together very often here.
[00:07:58] Yeah it sounds amazing and he was trying to achieve that right by having I didn't get to see all the technique but
[00:08:04] he was trying to have his a clear kind of wrapped in caramel because I think Paul mentioned like you know
[00:08:10] I see what you're trying to do with putting it on the outside but I think you needed more of it like it didn't
[00:08:15] have enough of that flavor it was more banana flavored.
[00:08:20] I'll be honest his looked like they had the crunch and like the crisp the the crisp outer layer
[00:08:28] and again back to my my macekerv texture and the contrast of textures so
[00:08:35] I could live with some banana cream if they had a nice crisp pastry around it
[00:08:41] but yeah that it did I mean bananas foster is something that I really enjoy
[00:08:48] so that's where that's where I do see those those flavors together and
[00:08:53] I mean if you put it into a if you put that into a pastry like I have a bite of I mean
[00:08:58] oh yeah what is it a hill to the yeah it's old school
[00:09:02] and he was saying they were saying
[00:09:04] that it was missing caramel flavor and Prusa said for banana lovers this is perfect so I guess the
[00:09:11] balance was a little off for them but if you just like banana that's great yeah um I like I actually
[00:09:20] would have outside of the texture the flavor of of Dan's citrusy one the that was the was his
[00:09:29] the mango coconut and I feel like coconut was sorry my like I said I washed this
[00:09:38] at 2.30 in the morning and I didn't take great notes um Dan's had jelly cubes on it your favorite
[00:09:43] nope nope no not when I was thinking of
[00:09:52] Matt Giamm Maddy's also had he had a blood the other one was in black forest got to top with
[00:09:58] Kirschäntilly kreme and I looked up Kirsch it's brandy distilled from the fermented juice of
[00:10:04] cherries which sounds really good honestly yeah I like that part chantilly cream is really good
[00:10:11] I've had that before.
[00:10:13] The the cherries failed Maddie horribly and they look.
[00:10:19] Yeah, they did.
[00:10:20] They did not like the taste.
[00:10:21] Yeah, no, I mean, like I feel like any cherries you have soaked in anything is going to be,
[00:10:27] you know, they're not going to look great, but yeah, no, the shantilly cream.
[00:10:31] Like I when I heard the song Shantilly Lace and then watch bake off and I was like,
[00:10:38] oh, I had to go look up shantilly cream and the whole really, the really, really light texture to that.
[00:10:44] And the in the fact that it's almost like a whipped a whipped topping as opposed to a,
[00:10:51] like a pudding-y topping, I was like, yes, yes, please.
[00:10:55] And thank you because that is, yep, that sounds delicious.
[00:11:01] Yeah, they all sounded pretty good.
[00:11:02] What about you, Wendy?
[00:11:04] I thought that they seemed to be most impressed with Maddie's because the bake was good.
[00:11:12] That's what they kept talking about is that it had that crispy eclair, which I don't think the other two exactly had.
[00:11:21] And I think Josh was probably a close second.
[00:11:24] They loved his flavors.
[00:11:26] They liked the way they were filled.
[00:11:29] They said they were perfectly filled.
[00:11:31] And I think Dan, they liked the flavors but the bake wasn't good.
[00:11:38] It was pretty clear to me the whole time that Dan was trailing.
[00:11:41] Mm-hmm.
[00:11:42] Yeah, I thought the opposite not the Dan was not trailing.
[00:11:47] But sorry, I was thinking that Josh had a clear lead after the signature.
[00:11:56] Yeah.
[00:11:57] After the signature, that was again, that's my impression.
[00:12:03] But you know, absolutely they talked about how good Maddie's baking was.
[00:12:09] Presented as the first one that's properly firm.
[00:12:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:13] Crispy.
[00:12:14] Yeah, something like that.
[00:12:15] And I mean, and he struggled so much with like delicate baking.
[00:12:21] I mean, he said to, he said it, right?
[00:12:22] And he was saying that he had avoided shoe the entire season.
[00:12:26] He was like, I'm not going to do this until they forced me to.
[00:12:31] And then he did it well enough and relied on somebody else to fail.
[00:12:38] And so that's what it takes.
[00:12:41] His key personality trait, which I didn't get for a while is that he underestimates himself.
[00:12:49] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:50] It doesn't give himself enough credit.
[00:12:52] And that's why I think I underestimated him because he just came off like,
[00:12:57] oh, he's a good guy.
[00:12:58] But he just is kind of not serious or he doesn't.
[00:13:03] He thought little of himself and I just sort of subconsciously went along with it.
[00:13:09] So I know we're not supposed to talk about this yet.
[00:13:13] But that was one reason why I was so glad he won.
[00:13:15] It was so great.
[00:13:16] But I also think sometimes that stops you from getting the best of yourself.
[00:13:22] Like, I absolutely think Tasha had the technical skills to win this whole thing,
[00:13:28] but she got in her head and she let the nerves really get to her a couple episodes.
[00:13:34] He agrees.
[00:13:36] And I did made it Maddie was able to enjoy it the whole time.
[00:13:40] And like Pru, I think said at the end, he just was there having a good time also taking in everything.
[00:13:48] We were telling him and applying it.
[00:13:49] So that's just perfect if you can stay in that sort of loose open place where you're still
[00:13:55] driven and going for it, but you're not like all tight and in your head like you're saying, Wendy,
[00:14:01] that's perfect.
[00:14:02] Yeah.
[00:14:03] I think that I think that Saku was very similar to Maddie in that almost that,
[00:14:08] that I'm just happy to be here.
[00:14:11] Yeah.
[00:14:11] Vibe and, Hey, as far as I make it, I as far as as far as I make it.
[00:14:16] And you know, I didn't even apply to this.
[00:14:19] You see what I, yeah, Laura fly for me.
[00:14:24] Yeah.
[00:14:24] It's all her fault.
[00:14:26] Yeah.
[00:14:27] Yeah.
[00:14:27] So good.
[00:14:29] It's adorable.
[00:14:30] Yeah.
[00:14:32] Yeah.
[00:14:33] What about you, Rima?
[00:14:34] What was your anything standout for you in the E-clares?
[00:14:39] I mean, I thought they all looked really great or at least they all said when I heard them,
[00:14:44] you know, and I know that, you know, Dan's his execution wasn't what it should have been.
[00:14:50] I know his, his bakes weren't up to par is maybe what they should have been.
[00:14:56] And I think they said that his E-clares were a little bit soggy and policy had too much
[00:15:00] cream.
[00:15:01] And I'm just like, I don't know.
[00:15:02] Is that even such a thing?
[00:15:03] Yeah.
[00:15:04] What's Dan the one they had the big stores of chocolate to write on top?
[00:15:07] And he said there's too much chocolate on there.
[00:15:09] And then like, screw you, man.
[00:15:11] I was like, I don't know what it looks like.
[00:15:13] The rectangle on top of the E-clair that covered it is a cool looking rectangle, I thought.
[00:15:20] Yeah.
[00:15:21] It was very, very, finally detailed.
[00:15:22] And you know, obviously the precision was going into making it look pretty.
[00:15:27] But fucking icing sugar.
[00:15:28] I mean, do it the same.
[00:15:31] Yeah, it's unfortunate he forgot that before he put them in in the oven.
[00:15:35] But I mean, I thought they all looked really great.
[00:15:37] But I think as far as the flavors, it was probably Josh that would probably come out on top for me if I have to choose just one.
[00:15:45] And I think that his precision precision and consistency with, you know,
[00:15:50] all of his eclairs look, you know, consistent and had like same shape.
[00:15:55] And you know, that I always appreciate that.
[00:15:59] I can't do it myself so I appreciate it in others as to how pretty and uniform they came out.
[00:16:05] And Josh has always been really for the most part anyway, pretty consistent with that.
[00:16:11] So that was probably the number one for me.
[00:16:13] But I think that they all looked great and thought that they all did a pretty good job.
[00:16:18] Let's talk about the technical challenge.
[00:16:22] The technical challenge this week was set by Paul and this was Lardi Kakeslises.
[00:16:29] Lardi Kakesl is so funny.
[00:16:32] I'm like, I had to like really did a cool job.
[00:16:35] That's a really English sounding name.
[00:16:37] Yeah, I had to keep it.
[00:16:38] I was like, what did they call it?
[00:16:40] Lardi Kakesl.
[00:16:43] So these are British classic.
[00:16:46] These Lardi Kakesl they're described as a cross between a Danish pastry and a bread.
[00:16:51] And as Paul and Prue were talking, they did mention that, you know,
[00:16:55] they did need to have patience and they have to allow the structure to remain open and loose.
[00:17:00] But I know all the bakers.
[00:17:02] I feel like this, the way that they described it sounded like this is something like maybe an older generation would be more familiar with.
[00:17:07] Well, I said it was hundreds of years old.
[00:17:10] Which I love.
[00:17:11] When think about Europe is the culture's older, goes so far back so they can pick these dishes that have just been around for so long.
[00:17:20] And you could almost picture once you saw it and made some medieval person grabbing a piece of this and taking a bite out of it.
[00:17:28] Well, do you remember in the earlier days of watching the baking show that whenever they did more historical kind of pieces with some of their technical?
[00:17:39] I mean, they went way back to like stuff that, you know, kings, you know, back in the day, king Edward or, you know, Henry and all of them used to have served at their tables.
[00:17:50] And you get a little bit of history with it too.
[00:17:52] And, you know, no one's really made that in hundreds of years.
[00:17:55] So I feel like they kind of were bringing that back a little bit with this Lardi cake.
[00:17:59] I don't know.
[00:18:00] This did not look good to me.
[00:18:03] I don't like stuff with fruit in it like that.
[00:18:05] So I was, I'll tell you straight up, this was not for me.
[00:18:08] They kind of looked like our fruit cake.
[00:18:10] It looked better than our fruit.
[00:18:12] It's actually really true.
[00:18:14] Yeah.
[00:18:15] I mean if you are panatone, anybody ever had panatone?
[00:18:20] I've heard the word experience.
[00:18:23] It's Italian bread.
[00:18:28] I mean, it's like cake.
[00:18:30] So my understanding and I mean, I thought that Maddie smearing the Lard was so funny.
[00:18:37] It was a silly set of things.
[00:18:38] I don't know.
[00:18:39] I'm just going to feel like I'm just going to feel right?
[00:18:41] Am I just supposed to spread it?
[00:18:45] And I was actually really impressed because I mean basically they used the Lard likely with butter with pastry and trying to, you know,
[00:18:56] to get it spread out pretty good.
[00:18:59] And like, you know, watching when Tasha did the inverse pastry last week, last week.
[00:19:08] Yeah, last week.
[00:19:09] And she was like, you know, worried about the lamination and the layers and whatnot.
[00:19:15] I was like, OK, I feel a little bit more confident in understanding what I'm maybe looking for.
[00:19:23] But then you see both Dan and Josh in like cubes of Lard spread throughout the other thing.
[00:19:31] And then Maddie's like squish and spread and squish and spread.
[00:19:36] And I was like, this is going to end ugly.
[00:19:40] But like I could appreciate their thought process, right?
[00:19:47] Patience is the key.
[00:19:49] And what Paul meant was the proof and what they all heard was the bake.
[00:19:55] And so that was where Dan ended up screwing himself like that's where he put himself at a distinct disadvantage is that he misinterpreted the patience, which I guess they really all did.
[00:20:09] But the proving was where it needed.
[00:20:14] And like I saw Josh's come out and I was like, Holy shit, that is huge.
[00:20:19] At least the first proof is great.
[00:20:23] Yeah, he's looked like it was the ball of dough we put it in and it was like, you know, well below the top of the glass bowl and they came brought it out.
[00:20:33] And it was bulging up the canvas up above or the covering.
[00:20:38] I was like, Holy crap, that's that is a real proof there.
[00:20:44] And I can see where this would be one of those during the war we're going to toss some fruit and some bread in order to get sustenance.
[00:20:57] And they said it was like to get to use extra pig fat too.
[00:21:02] Yeah, where butter wasn't necessarily available and they were able to hey, we just have this extra shit so that we're going to toss it in some bread I guess.
[00:21:11] And we're going to make some, make some, we'll call it cake but it's basically just bread with pig fat.
[00:21:18] I'm interested, I would be interested to try it.
[00:21:20] Did you guys grow up with Chris go?
[00:21:23] Oh, fucking.
[00:21:24] Sorry.
[00:21:25] Yeah.
[00:21:26] And they can grease on the stuff.
[00:21:29] Yeah, I mean to me, this looked great.
[00:21:32] I wanted to try it.
[00:21:34] I used to not love fruit cake until Jenny started getting these really moist ones from somewhere and they're actually really good.
[00:21:43] So I'm like, oh, okay, but I don't know this, this just reminded me of like I said some kind of medieval thing so I almost felt like it could be a fantasy food or something.
[00:21:51] Yeah, I thought it looked great and I thought it was hilarious when Allison said to Maddie.
[00:21:58] Do you know what this is?
[00:22:00] Have you seen this before and he goes no and she goes, oh dear.
[00:22:04] Do you know what it's supposed to look like?
[00:22:08] No, no.
[00:22:09] Oh dear.
[00:22:10] Oh dear.
[00:22:11] Yeah, I agree.
[00:22:14] Like I can't wait, maybe you can't wait.
[00:22:18] I would love for Lardycake to become a common D&D stack now because that, oh you have, you rolled a seven and you got four pieces of Lardycake.
[00:22:33] We need to have a Lardycake party.
[00:22:37] Yeah, there we go.
[00:22:38] One more thing, Paul.
[00:22:41] So it was interesting because Maddie's was raw.
[00:22:45] I thought they said it wasn't baked enough honestly but whatever the case, it was dense and raw.
[00:22:51] Josh's was just right.
[00:22:52] It was like the three bears.
[00:22:54] And Dan's looks well, Paul said it looked slightly king Alfred.
[00:23:00] So I was like, chat GPT.
[00:23:02] What did he mean by that?
[00:23:03] It said, according to the legend, king Alfred was hiding from Vikings in the house of a peasant woman.
[00:23:08] She asked him to watch over some cakes that she was baking on the fire but he was so distracted by his thoughts that he let them burn.
[00:23:14] When she came back, she scolded him for being a careless and useless man who could not even do a simple task.
[00:23:19] She did not recognize him as king.
[00:23:21] The story's probably not true but became a very popular in the middle ages and later it was meant to show that even a great king could make mistakes and be humble.
[00:23:29] When you say someone looks king Alfred or something looks king Alfred, it just means you burnt it to fuck I guess.
[00:23:34] Wow.
[00:23:36] Wow so much.
[00:23:38] So much in that story.
[00:23:41] It's pretty funny.
[00:23:43] This is a pretty good story.
[00:23:45] Yeah.
[00:23:47] Very relatable to these days as well, not just ancient times.
[00:23:51] Let me before we move off of the Lardy cakes.
[00:23:54] I do just like Jason mentioned that they looked good and a fruit cake is a cake.
[00:24:01] I'll tell you what, if you give me an ass whack of pastry with a bunch of fucking fruit in it, I'm going to eat the ever living shit out of it.
[00:24:09] So like I'm just saying that like I can appreciate your viewpoint Rima.
[00:24:16] I get it but this, I'm not going to say it's up my alley but I mean just like unfortunately like each of them looked reasonably greasy.
[00:24:28] And I was just like oh man I can just imagine the taking the bite out of it and like the crunch and the lemonade I say in lamination now I'm not thinking about when I'm eating it.
[00:24:39] I'm thinking of the like the oh my god, I'm like I feel like I'm biting through like six or seven different layers and it's such bliss.
[00:24:50] Anyway, I would really like to try Paul's Lardy cake that he shared with with with Peru.
[00:24:59] Don't get me wrong.
[00:25:00] I would still try it. I would try to keep an open mind but traditionally something like that is not for me.
[00:25:11] I definitely am not a fan of like fruit cakes or this to me just takes the place of the cake part and just puts it in like a bread.
[00:25:20] I mean it's, it's a bread which I love bread and Lard what's not to love and butter.
[00:25:29] So there's a lot of good key elements that I find appealing there just I probably eat like and pick off the bread and throw the fruit on a plate and eat around.
[00:25:40] Did they use butter?
[00:25:42] I don't think the Lard took the place of the butter.
[00:25:44] I don't think this right?
[00:25:46] Yeah, I think it was just the Lard but I think you know.
[00:25:49] Sorry, I was I'm not trying to pick apart what you're saying.
[00:25:52] I was just like wait a minute because the Lard was the lamination and just so that I was make sure I understood where it was going on.
[00:26:02] Well, I thought I thought maybe they did.
[00:26:04] I had a note here that they used Lard and butter but I'd have to go back.
[00:26:09] I know Lard was key.
[00:26:11] I mean because it was supposed to be traditional because that's what you know was used in like what Jason was saying to use up like, you know the pork fat.
[00:26:21] But I thought they did use a little bit of butter in with the.
[00:26:24] I've always heard using Lard and butter in like pie dough is the best way to go because it gives you the flavor, the flavor and the consistency.
[00:26:34] Oh boy.
[00:26:35] We have to try some Lard butter.
[00:26:38] I guess it's wrong but I'm just eating up some Lard butter.
[00:26:43] It's.
[00:26:45] This is the Lard.
[00:26:47] I can't see it.
[00:26:49] Going to get going diets in January after all this Lard and Lard and butter is cute.
[00:26:54] Right?
[00:26:56] There you go.
[00:26:59] It's butter.
[00:27:00] It's weight.
[00:27:03] Okay, let's jump into the showstopper.
[00:27:10] This showstopper for the final was a tiered celebration cake.
[00:27:15] They were asked to create an elegant tiered celebration cake that was inspired by their first ever bake and elevate it into something special.
[00:27:25] So Jason, what are your thoughts on the showstopper?
[00:27:30] I thought it was funny that Paul said Dan knows they like lemon so it's lucky that this was the first thing you ever baked.
[00:27:39] He's calling him a liar.
[00:27:41] Yeah, he really was.
[00:27:43] That was pretty funny.
[00:27:45] Dan's like pretending not to understand.
[00:27:48] But I'll have to say I mean Matties cake from the beginning to end was my favorite chocolate Genoese sandwich with French buttercream and crumbled brownie.
[00:28:01] I mean, I thought oh, brownie week was such a disaster on this show but I guess Mattie knows how to do it.
[00:28:08] They all had lemony stuff which I don't care about at all but the chocolate brownie and I loved the little pastel splotches of color.
[00:28:17] He was doing I thought it looked great like a smudgy ice cream look or something and I did notice it was leaning and that was his and almost it had been but it was tasty and otherwise attractive enough that it didn't ruin it for everybody.
[00:28:37] Yeah, that was my favorite.
[00:28:41] Josh I thought his cakes looked good but I did I mean I don't you know they always say one minute left and then they start the decorations and you're like come on they didn't really start decorating when there was only 60 seconds left but still it kind of looked like it with his I thought it looks okay but it doesn't look like a big off final week showstopper decoration to me.
[00:29:05] So I understood why they were underwhelmed by the look of it in the other two though in my opinion I didn't I liked I like Matties look better although the gold leaf kind of splotched on there wasn't so sure about that but.
[00:29:18] I like the gold leaf I think Matties was Matties was seriously misshapen if I had went to a bakery and picked that cake up I probably would have been upset about the shape of it.
[00:29:32] I felt like regardless is if it was the best shop I mean maybe you would have been an opportunity to try it but I think you wanted to look good too.
[00:29:41] I feel like Mattie is so fast and learning so quickly that if he had two more shots to make that cake it would be incredibly perfect you know yeah absolutely even I mean it was a little wild you know the way that it was all splotched on there that I thought the leaning you know you know
[00:30:01] you could tell it was a mistake but it's still for me anyway fit within that wildness of it that I could more excuse it but Josh is as Paul said while I wouldn't call it boring but it's in that direction or something like that and that's kind of what I thought too.
[00:30:18] And along with not being flavorful enough and the look of it that was sort of like me I just thought Matties looked better even though it was a little bit messed up.
[00:30:29] So so I'll disagree. I thought that Josh did the same level of piping work as he did on a number of his other showstoppers maybe it's not final level week or final
[00:30:46] so I final week level but I think that you know looking back at his chemistry box and his like the piping was never like I even I think I even commented on it during that week that the the piping was not really pretty but it was on par with this piping it was the same level of piping and.
[00:31:09] So it's been mediocre the whole way through is what you're saying.
[00:31:12] So in your opinion it was in my opinion like I just like Wendy was saying if you were to go walk by a cake and this is based purely on looks I did not taste it I did not anything like that purely on looks if you walk by a cake window or a shop window and you see a cake that is leaning versus a cake.
[00:31:38] That maybe reasonably piped but is still you know is it looks straight it's got bright colors it's got a specific decoration I think that you know the the one that is more appealing is going to be the one that is maybe simpler more simply decorated but is defined and yes I think that some of his piping was a little bit I'm not going to say messy but like I didn't know what was going to be like.
[00:32:07] I didn't know what the giant thing was the group giant green thing was until like the very very big and it looks like I thought of the alapeno and.
[00:32:17] I was like I don't really know what that is but okay but apparently it's a giant melon or something and I think he could have been a little bit neater with it maddies when he was actually decorating it and like putting little splotches on I was like oh man that that difference in texture is going to look really good and then he put.
[00:32:36] And then he put the little scraper on it and even did all out I was like oh man I you not destroyed but you you yeah you fucked up the thing that I like to the the decoration I was like well.
[00:32:53] Shit so we need brought it out I was like okay well that doesn't look nearly as impressive as I thought it did before right when it was textured and it's leaning and it's like oh well.
[00:33:03] Now it just looks like a see I totally agreed with the judges because even before they said anything I thought oh Josh's cake looks kind of boring and the piping isn't great it looks like you'd find in a supermarket you know like down at the lucky supermarket and I thought maddies it's leaning.
[00:33:23] I'm not saying a little bit but it looks much more exciting and that's kind of what they said to.
[00:33:28] Yeah I mean difference of opinion is the wonderful thing.
[00:33:32] It's all subjective for sure.
[00:33:35] Wendy did you have thoughts?
[00:33:38] I did think like in the beginning when they talked about what they were doing for their showstoppers I thought that Dan was trying to go more simple and elegant
[00:33:50] and Josh was going super ambitious which is kind of the reverse of what they normally do and I worried that it was gonna trip up Josh
[00:34:00] and then like Dan just seemed to be off his game.
[00:34:06] The whole episode I think he just I think he knew it too because I think even before he finished his showstopper he knew he wasn't he needed to knock that showstopper out of the park
[00:34:18] and he knew he wasn't and so I think he kind of resigned himself so he didn't seem to take it as hard as I think Josh was really hard to swallow their reaction to his showstopper.
[00:34:33] I think he seemed upset about it.
[00:34:38] I do think like I almost thought based on the information that we got that Josh might have been a nudge ahead of Maddie but I really think what it came down to is flavors and they were just blown away by Maddie's flavors which of course we didn't get the taste.
[00:34:59] I mean the descriptions and yeah and I mean Paul said that chocolate cake was like the best chocolate cake I've had and not saying a lot.
[00:35:08] And Proust said all the flavors are perfect really perfect Maddie nothing wrong except the lean so yes she she thought yeah that was they were really effusive and for the other two they were sort of like
[00:35:23] like Paul said it's just a little bit flawed and Dan said okay work to be done for next week then.
[00:35:28] Yeah I think they love Maddie's flavors for I mean that's what they've been talking about for the last several episodes is how spot on he's been with his flavors.
[00:35:39] And I mean I guess yes I want my cake that I get from the bakery to look beautiful but I want it to taste good.
[00:35:47] That's the big thing.
[00:35:51] No I agree with you winning it's the flavors are our wonder key and again as as you say like we didn't taste them right.
[00:36:03] We didn't we weren't able to dictate the difference in the cake bubbles from one to another and the textures and all that but I like and like I would absolutely be thrilled to taste all three of them
[00:36:19] although I will say and I believe Rima you talked to last week about macarons like I guess maybe if Dan had like knocked them out of the park they would have been super impressive but yeah.
[00:36:36] But it's he was so like they are they are difficult not under a time crunch and to add them as an extra with the you know in addition to the white chocolate colors and the the the six different cakes that he had.
[00:36:59] I feel like he just you shot himself in the foot and you know still over planned.
[00:37:04] He has an entire book of shit to read but doesn't put make sure you put on icing sugar right.
[00:37:13] But yeah I like that the macarons are like I feel like they if they had come out well.
[00:37:21] It would have been like oh well he made up for person something else and and really really put himself further into the mix or if his flavors had knocked their socks off because they love lemon and I think that was the worst death now for him was when that's their favorite lay love lemon and then the first thing.
[00:37:46] Pru said was we could have had more lemon that's not.
[00:37:51] That was I know I was good that that was a key thing that that Pru had said if you say you're going to make a lemon cake then you better deliver a lemon cake right I mean that's not verbatim what she said but you know you have to
[00:38:06] say you're going to make this and you better deliver it she says that on dates too.
[00:38:11] And yeah Dan Dan was criticized for not having enough lemon in his lemon drizzle cake and I thought that too I was like I saw him like doing his poke holes and just kind of drizzling a little I'm like you know I drown it like I would just pour that shit all over and like let it get to the bottom and let it try to like
[00:38:34] normalize a little bit or something but it would be like full on I don't know how to hold back on flavor like I'm always like double on every
[00:38:41] every I agree.
[00:38:43] I'm gonna like land he seemed like nervous that he was going to over do it and so he went the wrong way maybe because he was talking to himself as if he was
[00:38:53] Paul I think he's like that's too much lemon Dan and he's like oh sorry or something like that.
[00:39:00] I almost and when I think you made a good point as far as like you know Dan kind of knowing while he's making his show stopper
[00:39:11] that like okay I've already goofed on a couple of these things and I'm not going to I'm not going to pull this off and I know I'm not
[00:39:20] going to win this thing but I wonder a little even before as he was going into the showstopper before he even started because he
[00:39:27] he I know that they don't look at the technical I don't think unless they have to I feel like most times they kind of just throw
[00:39:34] out the technical it's yeah me too.
[00:39:37] Yeah so I don't I mean I've even forgot who won who lost that's oh yeah that's right he lost like you can care.
[00:39:44] I think unless it's like close on everything I think if all the signatures all the showstoppers are really tight then they
[00:39:50] might look at the technical to say okay well who who did better but I think for the most part they throw out
[00:39:55] the technical so if they're going to spy like the signature Dan you know fell short there in the
[00:40:01] signature and didn't do as well he didn't do well in the technical and I think he saw how you know great
[00:40:08] Maddie and Josh did and I wonder if he was just kind of phoning in the showstopper a little bit because I feel like
[00:40:14] and maybe he maybe he just was having a bad day maybe things did not go his way when they mentioned
[00:40:20] the mechorons and he's like yeah I don't know I don't know what happened you know it didn't sound like it was
[00:40:25] his first day making a mechoron but or almost like that day they had already tasted them like didn't
[00:40:31] you know they were underbaked yeah I thought that was weird yeah I don't think he was phoning it
[00:40:37] in though I think he was trying his best but he just kind of choked well I think he still tried to
[00:40:44] agree but I just I feel like it's right as best because like why would you not he didn't even know
[00:40:49] for sure at the end if he lost he's like oh maybe you know so you still in it's something about
[00:40:56] his attitude and like things he would say like when his white chocolate collar was too small and you know
[00:41:02] he's like I'll just cover up some mechorons they'll they'll never notice and I don't know just
[00:41:08] comments he made it just sound like he was already pretty down on himself and that he's like I know
[00:41:13] I'm not gonna this is not going to go the way that I wanted to and I felt really really bad
[00:41:19] you know I thought you know I've given Dan a hard time or at least his bakes anyway I like Dan
[00:41:25] but you know if you know sometimes questions some of his choices and things that he's done
[00:41:29] throughout the weeks but you know seeing him with his kids you know this week you know we got
[00:41:34] the the bits with the family and stuff and seeing him with his kids and you know how devoted he is to them
[00:41:40] and then to kind of see in you know when he's not with his kids when he's in the tent
[00:41:45] in the final he's the oldest contestant you know Maddie and Josh are younger
[00:41:50] and it was cute to see him kind of play a little bit of a dad role with them like you know
[00:41:56] you know I forgot my sugar on my clothes did you get yours did you get yours and he called
[00:42:01] he said good lad and I thought that was so sweet so it was it was sad because you know he seemed
[00:42:08] so happy and smiley when his mom was showing pictures of him as a kid growing up he just smile
[00:42:13] in and everything just like a happy yeah that was so cute yeah so but I don't know
[00:42:20] I just feel like I still don't know where I've landed on on how the show stopper went
[00:42:25] I I would love to taste Maddie's chocolate and Genoese I just I don't he's probably
[00:42:32] going to have a cookbook and I'm going to have to buy the recipe because it I'm like I
[00:42:38] I've got to try this cake that Paul said was like one of the best chocolate cakes
[00:42:43] he's had and reminds him of what and I thought that was really key when he says oh
[00:42:47] that reminds me of birthday cakes I've had as a kid I was like oh that definitely swung in
[00:42:53] Maddie's favorite there. It's like that a ratatouille when the the critic eats the bite of it
[00:42:58] and just gets sat back to his childhood. Yeah that was probably pretty pretty key
[00:43:05] moment and that really helped tip tip the hat a little bit in Maddie's favor so I'm
[00:43:11] dying to try that but I was disappointed by by the leaning and if I'm judging it
[00:43:18] just by that I was disappointed but you know when you look at what Josh has done
[00:43:23] like look his oh gosh was did he do that cow yes what the heck you do you know when
[00:43:31] you look at the piping when you look at and that was beautiful yeah all these things
[00:43:36] that I'm just like and maybe it was a time maybe you know you made a good point
[00:43:41] when you said it was kind of flipped a little this week where Dan tries to pull back
[00:43:45] just a little bit and keep a little bit more simple Josh gets a little bit more
[00:43:49] ambitious and I don't know if it was a time thing because I know I don't buy the whole
[00:43:53] one minute left you know in that whole editing thing I'm like no if that's
[00:43:57] that's BS although I do feel like they yes do run out of time but I feel like they
[00:44:00] edit it a certain way but I do think if he had more time if time wasn't
[00:44:05] you know if he wasn't held to that if he had all day for that cake to kind of
[00:44:10] set and he could have made that decoration he still could have followed
[00:44:15] through with his garden theme but maybe perfected it it didn't look sloppy
[00:44:20] it just didn't look finished was all to me and it was a simple design
[00:44:25] but I still thought it was really beautiful which one are we talking about now?
[00:44:29] Josh oh Josh when they were showing is awful but Dan with his kids I was like
[00:44:39] okay where's his wife and then just now as we didn't see her right we didn't
[00:44:44] see it I think there were some shots of them together when everybody was in
[00:44:50] the field yeah I think when everybody also he's married I think I saw I saw a
[00:44:56] woman with the kids and him assumed it was his wife but I could be wrong because
[00:45:01] they didn't show her so I don't know like okay is he divorced and then I'm like this is
[00:45:07] awful but it's like the tone of the show is so uplifting and I love that about
[00:45:12] it so much but you could also just show completely different types of moments
[00:45:17] of him yelling at his kids at home or something like that we have a whole different
[00:45:22] idea you know that's right because either you know there's all kinds of different
[00:45:27] moments yeah we don't we don't see them all no it would be a different show
[00:45:35] very different show I mean more like American reality TV yeah for sure
[00:45:42] because we're terrible here I don't know but I was it I was really sad for Josh though
[00:45:47] because I really thought you know in Paul says you know oh it warings a strong word
[00:45:52] but you know it's close and I was just like that was tough and he just stood there
[00:45:59] and had a reaction but yet it wasn't a strong reaction and I just my heart
[00:46:05] fell for him and again though they did comment though on his flavors which
[00:46:10] they said weren't quite there like they couldn't take the apple yeah I thought
[00:46:15] totally fair comment based on their description and what I could see there
[00:46:20] and it was actually nicer than he could have been he could have said I'm sorry but it's boring
[00:46:24] you know yeah maybe they really made a point to talk about the flavors
[00:46:31] like if you say you're going to make this flavor of a cake you have to deliver
[00:46:36] it and both Josh and Dan didn't deliver but Maddie did and his only flaw
[00:46:45] they said was the lean so if they're judging it based off I guess I have to do
[00:46:49] go with what they said and I think it was close enough because they were going
[00:46:54] back in to taste everything so I think it was close enough that they needed
[00:46:58] to go back in and taste everything which makes sense because then flavors
[00:47:04] was what was going to win the day and that was Maddie.
[00:47:09] I always wonder they don't show this and so maybe they don't but again I know that
[00:47:14] there's editing involved I always wonder if when they're trying each person's
[00:47:18] base and there's just a whole variety of flavors do they ever do like a
[00:47:22] palate cleanser kind of thing you know how do they you know if you have certain
[00:47:26] strong flavors from one thing that you've just tasted in eight and then you go
[00:47:31] to something else that has entirely flavors does that allow you know what what's
[00:47:35] that like I don't this not like a huge deals totally off topic but I always think
[00:47:38] about that whenever they're trying you know all the different different
[00:47:42] different Bakes yeah I agree fair I you know I can also especially during
[00:47:48] the first you know what six weeks where they're trying 12 different things or
[00:47:53] you know 10 different things or seven different things or whatever I mean that
[00:47:57] probably a spit cup that they they don't to show okay that was you know
[00:48:04] yeah I can get them I can get that one bite and then
[00:48:09] all right I don't want to what are you that much of it
[00:48:18] I think like on top chef there's been a couple things where like Padma spit
[00:48:23] out my food out like that's not good no it's not I think Paul he most the time
[00:48:34] well there's definitely times where he's like I'm not gonna eat that he won't even
[00:48:38] take a bite yeah when it's raw there's been times where I put in his mouth
[00:48:43] and then he's like oh that's raw so you can catch it gosh I would just cry
[00:48:49] I don't know I don't know how they do it because I would just crumble whether it was good or bad
[00:48:56] I would just crumble my anxiety could never standing there in front of Paul and
[00:49:00] Peru presenting them something that I've baked just never and it would they make
[00:49:05] me so nervous like when they're walking they have to pick up their show stopper
[00:49:09] if from their table and walk it up in front of Paul and I'd be like can someone
[00:49:13] else carry this I promise you I'm gonna I have to left the I'm gonna jump I'm always afraid
[00:49:18] they're gonna I was with especially Josh in this one
[00:49:23] yeah yeah yeah yeah I thought it was just picture it just tumbling
[00:49:30] yeah I thought it was really cool that Maddie had never made a stacked cake
[00:49:36] before this week he said that's really amazing I was like really wow yeah
[00:49:44] I will also comment on the fact that we got our first bleep from Maddie
[00:49:51] yeah the season for Maddie is like oh fuck
[00:49:55] well he was sick or eating his cake at the end and he goes I'll go leave the bleep out of
[00:50:01] this yeah exactly more gold leaf more gold leaf
[00:50:07] and yeah but and then I think he's like I thought he said I did a shit job
[00:50:12] with the dowels or maybe wasn't shit job but like it's got a bit of late
[00:50:18] oh it's it's artistic impression that's like yeah just pretend that that's what
[00:50:24] you're trying for Rima and Wendy do you know Eric Nordhoff James's old partner
[00:50:31] of Walker Walker Stucker James and Eric I don't think so I met him once
[00:50:35] but I don't know like no him but I know who Maddie reminds me of like a young
[00:50:40] him the way he kind of looks and he's always like smiling joking around
[00:50:46] and stuff I can see that
[00:50:52] all right anything else to say about the show stoppers for the final
[00:51:00] I thought it was adorable that Josh picked up baking from his nann
[00:51:06] oh yeah he wanted him to do the bake off and you can tell his mom was like
[00:51:14] you should have done it before she died but it was still really sweet
[00:51:19] see I thought what they were saying was he had tried out
[00:51:23] while she was alive and hadn't gotten out
[00:51:26] I think they said this was his second time around with trying out
[00:51:31] that was really sweet I thought Maddie's family was really sweet
[00:51:37] his now fiance Laura oh so really nice and then like his dad seemed a little
[00:51:45] clueless and like was like I don't really understand
[00:51:49] I don't understand anything
[00:51:51] and his wife was like boy made us our anniversary cake
[00:51:58] he's like he did yeah he did
[00:52:01] I saw him on the sidelines in the field like really cheering him on
[00:52:06] so I thought that was nice
[00:52:09] like I don't know what's going on but I'm so proud of you
[00:52:12] the way his wife rolled her eyes at him
[00:52:16] he does that all the time he could tell
[00:52:19] it's clueless, funny
[00:52:23] I had forgotten about the pre family bits
[00:52:28] that they do on the final and so great
[00:52:31] yeah the first 20 minutes of the show
[00:52:34] this is so heartwarming
[00:52:37] seeing everybody with their families
[00:52:40] and the interviews
[00:52:42] I've been lying to my kids for 10 weeks
[00:52:47] I'm so glad to tell my kids not to lie
[00:52:50] I'm more disappointed than you dad
[00:52:52] I'm not angry
[00:52:53] and they're like what are you doing dad
[00:52:55] oh I'm just making a cake in the shape of a guitar
[00:52:57] okay whatever
[00:52:59] yeah that's kind of lame
[00:53:00] but I really liked that Maddie
[00:53:03] he didn't even apply I'm like why
[00:53:06] then his girlfriend did it and she's like
[00:53:08] yeah I always tell him he's great but he won't believe me
[00:53:11] so I had to do this and he goes
[00:53:14] she says I don't know when the penny is going to drop
[00:53:16] that he's good at baking
[00:53:18] and I'm like yeah he's in the finals of the great British baking show
[00:53:21] he still doesn't believe it you know
[00:53:23] but that just made him so
[00:53:26] appealing
[00:53:29] it was really sweet
[00:53:32] I've liked seeing all the other eliminated bakers
[00:53:36] like who Christy was seemed really excited
[00:53:39] not to be baking
[00:53:41] pressure was gone
[00:53:43] yeah because I think she
[00:53:46] I think she did well but I think
[00:53:48] it really caused her a lot of anxiety
[00:53:52] yeah it was so good
[00:53:54] because I don't remember last season
[00:53:57] I think the last two seasons right
[00:53:59] they haven't had the bake
[00:54:01] the other contestants come back for the party
[00:54:03] at the end because of COVID
[00:54:05] that was such
[00:54:08] just huge
[00:54:11] omission you know
[00:54:13] it was so nice in previous seasons to always see them back
[00:54:16] so it was such a bummer not to see them
[00:54:18] but now they're all back so it was like
[00:54:20] oh good it's like the old bake off again
[00:54:22] so nice to see
[00:54:23] yeah it was very nice
[00:54:24] I love that definitely flavor of the old bake off
[00:54:28] yeah having them all back
[00:54:30] and a big crowd there all the family
[00:54:32] and I think the next season
[00:54:35] that's a really nice little garden party with
[00:54:37] right now it was rainy at first
[00:54:39] and then the sun came out
[00:54:41] it was just so perfect
[00:54:42] I think they probably just had that fake rain
[00:54:44] just to make it nice
[00:54:45] later on
[00:54:46] to make it look like it was an act of God or something
[00:54:49] but I liked when Keith said
[00:54:51] they were asking all of them
[00:54:53] who they thought was going to win
[00:54:55] and he goes
[00:54:56] well it's kind of like asking a parent
[00:54:58] to pick their favorite child
[00:55:00] and then he goes
[00:55:02] and I think that's really funny
[00:55:04] it's a real
[00:55:06] perfect
[00:55:07] I thought that Tasha's
[00:55:09] like she didn't just call it
[00:55:11] but she was like
[00:55:13] I think Mattie might pull it out
[00:55:15] like I think she might he might surprise him
[00:55:18] I feel like they had gotten
[00:55:20] reasonably close during the season
[00:55:23] and
[00:55:24] and she really kind of
[00:55:26] I feel like she saw the same stuff
[00:55:28] when she was pushing him
[00:55:30] to compete
[00:55:34] Yeah I think I saw those two gravitate
[00:55:36] towards each other a lot
[00:55:37] like when they were finished with the
[00:55:39] bake or something
[00:55:40] and they were all just feeling kind of relief
[00:55:42] I remember a couple times seeing Tasha
[00:55:44] and Mattie kind of go into each other
[00:55:45] and give each other a hug
[00:55:46] like we got through that
[00:55:48] or that was really brilliant
[00:55:50] so I think those two did definitely
[00:55:52] have a little bit more
[00:55:54] something special
[00:55:56] it was one of my favorite moments
[00:55:58] you know after when they do the little after
[00:56:00] yeah after the show
[00:56:02] getting to see all of them
[00:56:04] getting together
[00:56:06] outside of the tent
[00:56:08] and outside of baking
[00:56:10] just I cried like a baby
[00:56:13] I do every single
[00:56:15] first season of the bake off at the end
[00:56:18] when they do the little
[00:56:20] so and so went and visited
[00:56:22] you know these people
[00:56:24] and they went on a road trip
[00:56:26] and they just went around
[00:56:28] and visited all the other bakers
[00:56:30] and they're showing all the pictures
[00:56:32] and stuff so Nikki and Saku
[00:56:34] you know got together and did this road trip
[00:56:36] and I just I'm crying
[00:56:38] I want to road trip with Nikki
[00:56:40] and Saku
[00:56:42] that sounds like a really good time
[00:56:44] I feel like the best time
[00:56:46] and Mattie and Laura get married next year
[00:56:48] yeah
[00:56:49] which I thought they were going to say
[00:56:51] she was pregnant
[00:56:52] that's probably what they were saying
[00:56:54] about saying that
[00:56:56] I thought he might propose right there
[00:56:58] and then
[00:57:00] I thought that was what he was going to say
[00:57:02] yeah it almost be a good time
[00:57:04] but I thought they were already engaged though
[00:57:06] I thought they called her
[00:57:08] so maybe yeah that makes sense
[00:57:10] but can I say my favorite moment
[00:57:12] in the whole
[00:57:14] episode was when Alison asked Josh
[00:57:16] what are you gonna miss most from the tent
[00:57:18] and he goes you of course
[00:57:20] that's the right answer
[00:57:22] and I was like oh that was a cute little bake off moment
[00:57:24] and then you see Noel right behind him
[00:57:26] Alison is just informed me
[00:57:28] she asked you what you were gonna miss most from the tent
[00:57:30] and you said you to her
[00:57:32] absolutely furious
[00:57:34] not we have something Josh
[00:57:36] seven years I've been doing this Josh
[00:57:38] seven years
[00:57:40] well when Alison's like
[00:57:42] oh can I please announce
[00:57:44] the final
[00:57:46] you know be here the winner of the show
[00:57:48] you might as well it's gonna be your only
[00:57:50] that's right
[00:57:54] I love those two together
[00:57:56] I think Alison's been a great
[00:57:58] I do too really
[00:58:00] she's back again I just
[00:58:02] I'm sure she will
[00:58:04] she has such a big
[00:58:06] lovely bubbly personality
[00:58:08] and that boister slap
[00:58:10] and easy
[00:58:12] you know
[00:58:14] conversation with the bakers
[00:58:16] which is great together
[00:58:18] so really hope they keep her
[00:58:20] for a while
[00:58:22] I agree
[00:58:24] I think that they ended the show
[00:58:26] outside of the
[00:58:28] what's been going on since
[00:58:30] on my favorite part
[00:58:32] where Mattie's literally just
[00:58:34] wandering around the field
[00:58:36] with this cake stand
[00:58:38] and he's like
[00:58:40] going into the camera and
[00:58:42] Paul's like look at those idiot
[00:58:44] he's laughing
[00:58:46] me my moment
[00:58:48] and they posit mid laugh
[00:58:50] yeah
[00:58:52] I was laughing so hard
[00:58:54] it was like
[00:58:56] I got these flowers cake
[00:58:58] thing I don't know where to put them
[00:59:00] wandering around
[00:59:02] my saying goodbye to people
[00:59:04] I feel like that was in the middle of the
[00:59:06] thing after he'd been awarded it
[00:59:08] but
[00:59:10] reactions afterwards
[00:59:12] and I was like
[00:59:14] oh we got to give it
[00:59:16] they're so good about
[00:59:18] picking what to show
[00:59:20] I'm sure they have to pick
[00:59:22] and choose but yeah
[00:59:24] they added together so well
[00:59:26] I like to know
[00:59:28] ask you know
[00:59:30] Paul and Prudle leave
[00:59:32] for the technical
[00:59:34] and it's a last technical challenge
[00:59:36] so you know where they're
[00:59:38] going Alice is like
[00:59:40] in any American show
[00:59:42] like this somebody saying
[00:59:44] that and having it go over
[00:59:46] but knows the one who can get away
[00:59:48] with it
[00:59:50] this is your final signature
[00:59:52] so you'll be baking in the nude
[00:59:54] well
[00:59:56] all right
[01:00:00] I liked all of the group photos
[01:00:02] as they're all getting together
[01:00:04] and doing the different things
[01:00:06] and like I'm just crying
[01:00:08] it really does remind me of like
[01:00:10] our group you know
[01:00:12] when we all get together
[01:00:14] annually yeah
[01:00:16] when we can't annually or just
[01:00:18] some of the zeds that do
[01:00:20] live a little bit closer and then
[01:00:22] you know just by chance on a weekend
[01:00:24] meet up and you know
[01:00:26] for coffee or trivia
[01:00:28] and you know just things like that
[01:00:30] and it just warms my heart
[01:00:32] and then everyone will throw the pictures
[01:00:34] up there in the group like oh look who
[01:00:36] is that
[01:00:38] you know just seeing the bakers
[01:00:40] and such getting to know them
[01:00:42] throughout the season
[01:00:44] just warmed my heart but definitely
[01:00:46] pulled at my heart strings
[01:00:48] reminding me of the group but then
[01:00:50] we get all of those group shots
[01:00:52] and look at what they're doing
[01:00:54] and look where they're going
[01:00:56] and then we see Abby
[01:00:58] all alone forging
[01:01:00] and she was not in any group
[01:01:02] shots at all
[01:01:04] yeah
[01:01:06] yeah
[01:01:08] yeah
[01:01:12] so some really
[01:01:14] really great moments that that was some of my
[01:01:16] favorites though
[01:01:18] I don't know if it
[01:01:20] if I just not remembering but
[01:01:22] it felt like this ending sequence
[01:01:24] just hit even harder than usual
[01:01:26] because I was born
[01:01:28] to yeah
[01:01:30] it's just so a heart felt
[01:01:32] I think it really did help that
[01:01:34] Maddie's such a good guy
[01:01:36] and that he had underestimated himself
[01:01:38] and
[01:01:40] it was about other people saying you
[01:01:42] are good to just believe it
[01:01:44] at the end after the show stoppers
[01:01:46] he was like
[01:01:48] maybe that was enough
[01:01:50] maybe
[01:01:52] yeah
[01:01:54] and I totally underestimated him
[01:01:56] as I said so I was happy to be wrong
[01:01:58] How many weeks that I talked shit
[01:02:00] about him flaring out
[01:02:02] I mean yeah
[01:02:04] I said prove me wrong
[01:02:06] more than happy to admit that I was wrong
[01:02:08] and I am
[01:02:10] thrilled for him
[01:02:12] that is super exciting
[01:02:14] I will say
[01:02:16] and you guys kind of mentioned it
[01:02:18] but like I was
[01:02:20] gutted for Josh
[01:02:22] like you can just
[01:02:24] see it on the space
[01:02:26] he's just like
[01:02:28] that's the thing
[01:02:30] he's like the cake was leaning
[01:02:32] his cake was leaning
[01:02:38] I think he even made a point
[01:02:40] to like when they were editing
[01:02:42] all together and Josh was
[01:02:44] putting like his final layers
[01:02:46] and he's being so care
[01:02:48] he wanted to lean
[01:02:50] yeah and then that had to be
[01:02:52] like the one you know
[01:02:54] mistake with Maddie's
[01:02:56] oh they just really put that out there
[01:02:58] but
[01:03:00] yeah
[01:03:02] I felt pretty good
[01:03:04] oh yeah it's amazing
[01:03:06] it's definitely nothing to hang
[01:03:08] their head about
[01:03:10] I mean I know it had to be
[01:03:12] just crushing
[01:03:14] but just to be in that final
[01:03:16] I mean it was totally cow
[01:03:18] all good guys too
[01:03:20] like I would have been happy with any of them
[01:03:22] winning just based on
[01:03:24] it was and then when
[01:03:26] Maddie won
[01:03:28] then you cut over to Josh
[01:03:30] and Dan doing their separate reactions
[01:03:32] they're like oh yeah I'm just really happy for him
[01:03:34] such a great guy
[01:03:36] this is really nice
[01:03:38] we need more of that
[01:03:40] oh did you notice
[01:03:42] when they asked
[01:03:44] the other
[01:03:46] ex contestants
[01:03:48] who they thought would win
[01:03:50] Dana, remember Dana
[01:03:52] she said maybe Josh
[01:03:54] should that thing
[01:03:56] again
[01:03:58] she's always saying the last
[01:04:00] adding a little thing at the end
[01:04:04] I love their
[01:04:06] all their different accents
[01:04:08] yeah
[01:04:10] how many countries are in this country
[01:04:14] it's a melting pot at this point
[01:04:16] so I got some cake pans
[01:04:18] and I told my family
[01:04:20] I'm making the signature
[01:04:22] great British baking show
[01:04:24] Paul Holly was a chocolate
[01:04:26] fudge cake with the raspberries
[01:04:28] for Christmas so now I have to do it
[01:04:30] Rima made it
[01:04:32] yeah I made it
[01:04:34] good luck
[01:04:36] you're
[01:04:38] right Rima you said you're
[01:04:40] gonna
[01:04:42] you got the mirror
[01:04:44] you have the mirror
[01:04:46] would you be proud to present
[01:04:48] that to Paul and prove
[01:04:50] no
[01:04:52] no the ganache turned out really well
[01:04:54] but it wasn't as
[01:04:56] like I was crushed for time
[01:04:58] I did fall victim to time
[01:05:00] much like our bakers each week
[01:05:02] did you have the bake off
[01:05:04] is it playing in the back
[01:05:06] no
[01:05:08] I didn't know
[01:05:10] you lose
[01:05:12] mom you have 30 minutes left
[01:05:14] she yeah she's like
[01:05:16] I can't believe you're doing that
[01:05:18] that looks like so much work
[01:05:20] and I'm like it is
[01:05:22] it's a lot of work
[01:05:24] I mean it was worth it
[01:05:26] it was absolutely delicious
[01:05:28] but yeah it was a lot
[01:05:30] and it was very
[01:05:32] I think it'll definitely be
[01:05:34] something you love Jason
[01:05:36] because I know you love chocolate
[01:05:38] a lot yeah I think Greg
[01:05:40] it totally be I know you love chocolate
[01:05:42] well Wendy you do too
[01:05:44] but it was
[01:05:46] absolutely delicious
[01:05:48] but make sure you got the time
[01:05:50] yeah
[01:05:52] I'm gonna I'll take all day
[01:05:54] when I get those blue
[01:05:56] and it says it's gonna take 35 minutes
[01:05:58] I know to give myself an hour and a half
[01:06:00] yeah
[01:06:02] you know
[01:06:04] well that's awesome
[01:06:06] take pictures
[01:06:08] so we can we can see it
[01:06:10] let us know um
[01:06:12] yeah
[01:06:14] I mean it was good
[01:06:16] for better or so
[01:06:18] yeah
[01:06:20] I wouldn't present in my
[01:06:22] front of pollen
[01:06:24] but I still thought it was you know
[01:06:26] I was proud of it
[01:06:28] I was like yeah look
[01:06:30] I'm going to make
[01:06:32] and my daughter doesn't listen
[01:06:34] to any of this thank goodness
[01:06:36] her birthday is coming up next week
[01:06:38] so I'm going to make her some
[01:06:40] that's like her favorite ever
[01:06:42] and usually I'll buy them for her
[01:06:44] from a really nice bakery
[01:06:46] but I'm like you know what
[01:06:48] I'll just ruin her day
[01:06:50] and make them myself
[01:06:52] sure
[01:06:54] I thought you were gonna
[01:06:56] a caterpillar cake
[01:06:58] and I was like
[01:07:00] she would not appreciate a catapult
[01:07:02] at all
[01:07:04] so I'm gonna brave it
[01:07:06] I know they're difficult
[01:07:08] but would be okay for like
[01:07:10] a beginner
[01:07:12] macaron
[01:07:14] recipe so I'm gonna go for it
[01:07:16] I'll let everyone know how they turn out
[01:07:18] yeah I'm curious
[01:07:20] yeah my first time
[01:07:22] but it's one thing about
[01:07:24] you know this show
[01:07:26] it always gets me you know
[01:07:28] in the baking
[01:07:30] and we always wanted
[01:07:32] and it was kismit
[01:07:34] just before we started recording
[01:07:36] yeah I can't stop thinking about those
[01:07:38] osadrals
[01:07:40] so we'll have to try those too
[01:07:42] any final thoughts
[01:07:44] or notes
[01:07:46] on the episode before we move on to
[01:07:48] listener feedback
[01:07:50] I would just say next
[01:07:52] that had meeting we should like
[01:07:54] definitely get a big tent
[01:07:56] but
[01:07:58] at least a big tent and have a big party
[01:08:00] big garden party
[01:08:02] yes
[01:08:04] we have to have a zed head
[01:08:06] get together when bakeoff is airing
[01:08:08] and all watch it together
[01:08:10] and then maybe have
[01:08:12] some people bake something the next day
[01:08:14] we can all help
[01:08:16] I'm up for that
[01:08:18] but can we go some more warm this time
[01:08:20] yeah
[01:08:22] I was gonna say
[01:08:24] they will have
[01:08:26] pastry where you have to put it in the freezer
[01:08:28] every time
[01:08:30] yeah
[01:08:32] we need to have some
[01:08:34] food
[01:08:36] for that
[01:08:38] then we had some
[01:08:40] food for them
[01:08:40] for that
[01:08:44] first one
[01:08:48] jamey and i said
[01:08:51] every year but this might be my favorite season
[01:08:55] I honestly would have been happy
[01:08:57] no matter who won
[01:08:59] yeah I felt the same
[01:09:00] part is the very end when you see the contestants have remained friends except for the one who was
[01:09:05] forging the woods. I added that last bit.
[01:09:09] For happy. When do you want to take the next one?
[01:09:14] Scott Widham says overall, I think Josh was the better baker but Maddie was worthy and the most improved.
[01:09:21] I could agree with that.
[01:09:24] Yeah, I want to see Maddie in 10 years like what he's going to be doing because he would
[01:09:30] his, we just watched him get so much better from week to week. He's like, you know, he's that young
[01:09:39] spongy. I'm sure he is going to do a roll-out for himself.
[01:09:44] Yeah, and I think that Maddie, I mean, you get's debatable. It was close finale but I think
[01:09:52] Maddie, at least according to the judges, edged Josh out this week but I think if you were to judge
[01:09:59] it on overall performance somehow even though it's all fairly subjective that Josh would have been
[01:10:05] the right choice because I think he was more consistently better but it matters what they did this week.
[01:10:11] That's right and that's fair.
[01:10:16] Yeah. And Maddie's a teacher. I wonder if I don't know if that had anything to do with just being
[01:10:20] able to take what he was learning and just keep like plunging forward and absorbing all of the
[01:10:27] feedback that they were given him and learning and learning from the other bakers and such.
[01:10:33] I don't know but yeah, he was most improved.
[01:10:36] They're just also relatable because they're all amateurs. You know, they don't do this for
[01:10:40] living. They're all just regular people, regular jobs and this is just a hobby and a passion and
[01:10:45] skill data. So it makes me believe I can make backgrounds. I believe in you.
[01:10:55] You can do it. Sure, you can absolutely do it. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I appreciate the
[01:11:00] photo confidence. All right. Well, there is no bake off for us this week that is the finals.
[01:11:10] We'll see if we'll be back for next season. You know, depending on when that comes back and
[01:11:16] what else is going on. I know we always say oh, I still have time. I don't have time but I don't
[01:11:21] know somehow always make time for this because it's so darn fun and hope you guys come along with me.
[01:11:28] Yeah, I'm glad you guys covered it. Yeah, I appreciate you covering it.
[01:11:31] Got me watching it. It's a feel good. We can all use that especially this time of year,
[01:11:37] I think, sometimes. Yep. So if you're interested here on Strange Indeed,
[01:11:46] Peyton and I are also covering the Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix. That is also moving
[01:11:51] into its final episode next week. We'll be doing the coverage on the series finale for that show.
[01:11:58] Just absolutely in love with that show. Can't wait to talk about it. A lot of great things
[01:12:02] that happening. So hopefully y'all are joining us for that. We're having a really good time with it.
[01:12:06] So Jason, how about you? What have you got going on lately? I think you've got a pretty full
[01:12:12] plate. You want to talk about that? Yeah, if you guys like a bake off, you should check out
[01:12:18] Squid Game. It's kind of similar. After you watch Squid Games coming back here for the
[01:12:25] There's cookies and it's a reality show. It's great. Yeah, very similar.
[01:12:34] Feel good. So yeah, it's got a vibe to it. I'm doing Squid Gamecast where we're covering the
[01:12:39] original Squid Game, which is horrific and highly toxic, but it's brilliant, I think.
[01:12:45] And they're doing a Squid Game Challenge reality show that's based on the Squid Game right now,
[01:12:50] which is sort of wrong given that the original Squid Game was sort of critical of doing that kind
[01:12:56] of a thing. And then they actually go ahead and do it, but I got to admit it's a fascinating watch
[01:13:01] and it's kind of a show where you got to keep binging through. So me and Jonathan and Daphne have
[01:13:07] been covering those and that's been a ton of fun. And then over on the cast of us, Lucy and I
[01:13:13] went back to the beginning of the Walking Dead and started our rewatch. So we're just finishing up
[01:13:18] season one this week here. And then we're going to do Return of the Living Dead, we'll take a little
[01:13:23] break and cover that movie and then we'll go back into Walking Dead season two. That's pretty much
[01:13:29] all I have going on right now aside from other Patreon stuff. It always keeps you busy. Yeah,
[01:13:38] find all of that at podcasticka.com along with all kinds of other great podcasts from our mutual
[01:13:45] friends, including Yola Jackets and Handmaid's Tale, which Wendy has been a part of We Love Time
[01:13:53] with Greg. I really have to get on that. I keep hearing so many great things. They really did
[01:14:00] well in season two and like they picked it up and really kind of amplified the quality, especially
[01:14:09] the second half of season two. But Penny and I think that Rima would love Extraordinary even more
[01:14:16] probably. Oh yeah, Extraordinary is, I mean it is probably my favorite. I mean I say that Ted
[01:14:24] Lassos my favorite half-hour comedy but Extraordinary's up there like it's pretty good.
[01:14:31] I definitely got bumped on my list as we were talking about it the other night and I was kind of
[01:14:35] getting some non-spoilery descriptions. I was like okay that might have moved it up
[01:14:40] the list a little bit for me so I'll definitely have to check that out. But yeah,
[01:14:46] yeah all on podcasticka.com so I appreciate those recommendations.
[01:14:50] All right thanks everyone. Thanks for being with me for this coverage. This was
[01:14:54] thank you. It was fun yeah. Yeah thanks it was an awesome season. It was a ton of fun.
[01:15:00] Yep. On your marks get said.
[01:15:06] Bake!