304 "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" (Sweet Tooth S3E2)

[00:00:01] Hmm Hey everybody, I'm Rima and I'm Pake and this is Strange Indeed a podcast dedicated to the Netflix show Sweet Tooth. This week we are covering season 3 episode 2 titled. Thank God. I'm a country boy Do you know that song Pake?

[00:00:30] Don't know I don't I'm sure I've heard it But it's not like something that I like can immediately like tell you like what who it is or what it what it is

[00:00:39] I don't know that I can either but I've heard it multiple times playing in my family gatherings Off and on so yeah, it's what I was thinking of when I saw the title of this What are your general thoughts about this week's episode

[00:00:56] I did I liked it. It was a little bit more of like a standalone episode, which I mean I guess there's not a problem with that Maybe you feel a little rush because look we're in the last season and there's like only eight episodes

[00:01:08] We got to get all this story and say like we're gonna spend all this time at this one house And that's all we're getting really but but overall I mean, it's it's playing into themes that are there I'm gonna have plenty of thoughts about

[00:01:22] Thematic elements of this episode and we'll talk about that stuff So I think overall just like as a standalone it was really poignant and really important and I think it was a great story but then

[00:01:34] Yeah, it doesn't leave us with a lot going into like the overarching story that we're like really invested in But I think as long as we're like right back into the action next week, then it's an okay little Detour I

[00:01:46] Agree, I think I mean I like the episode too And in other seasons we've had kind of a little bit of a one-off with other people

[00:01:58] that are also in this world and what's going on with them and what their stories are and the narrator always kind of puts us in That place and kind of sets us up for that and I think they did a good job

[00:02:08] With this one too and kind of you know, you know, we all have stories to tell and you know in different stories different people And so I was like, okay So we're gonna get to meet other people and kind of seeing what what they're doing in this post

[00:02:22] Apocalyptic time and how they're surviving or how they're getting by and learn about other people and I always find that kind of interesting But yeah, there is a little bit of like Okay, we have this many episodes left. We know this is the end of the story

[00:02:37] Let's let's keep moving things along. So it did help that at the end, you know, there was a purpose where he got, you know our You know our team, you know moving You know with a method of transportation to their next destination to keep them moving towards Alaska

[00:02:52] But a little bit of a detour to meet meet this family and this little boy and I know watching this I was like, I know I mean we've all got probably some things to say

[00:03:03] For sure. Our listeners probably do too and there's probably a lot of opinions, but I know I was thinking to myself I can't wait to see what pig thinks You're Gonna have some opinions, which I'm sure I will share share in those opinions Well without

[00:03:23] You know before we get too far talking into our points Let's go ahead and just jump into it. You want to lead us off this week with your first first point? Alright, let's see with the first one. We'll talk about

[00:03:35] Dr. Aditya Singh and getting back with him and kind of again Seeing where he's at where I still trying to feel him out as far as is he you know Is he reformed? Is he really on a better path?

[00:03:51] Is he a good guy now or is there still you know, some kind of motive what's going on with him? I feel like he is trying to Undo a lot of the wrongs that he did I think

[00:04:02] After everything that happened at the zoo and with Abbott and then especially with his wife leaving him I don't think we'll ever see her again. I think they wrote her off into the sunset You know, I think that is the end of that

[00:04:14] And I think it's a lot of things that he went through that really made him question Who he is, you know? He says he should have died so many times and he even tried to off himself and

[00:04:25] Obviously, he's still here for some purpose for some reason and I think he is on a different path And I think a good path I think he will end up redeeming himself and being a huge part of Gus's success

[00:04:35] Whatever that may look like by the end of this series So it was good to see him beginning to kind of move towards that path, of course

[00:04:43] This is the first interaction he's having with them when they meet up at the motel the near the beginning of the episode Which I mean obviously after everything he did do nobody's really happy to see him Especially Gus and Wendy. They have very different opinions on him

[00:04:57] Especially Gus and Wendy. They have very valid reasons to hate him and be scared of him for the things that he did to their I mean as Wendy refers to them, those are her siblings not just other kids

[00:05:06] they lived with I mean those were her brothers and sisters and you know, so the two kids that He killed in order to do his his research and things and even the stuff that he did

[00:05:18] You know, he manipulated Gus. He had good intentions, but still Gus felt lied to and manipulated and So there's a lot of anger and hurt there so obviously like they're ready to just like literally throw him to the wolves, right?

[00:05:31] once they show up like he's like they're like we're not we're not taking him but Gus keeps that level head of Not really which he's good at that again. We're seeing that leadership quality

[00:05:42] I talked about a lot last season and I'll talk about I'm sure a lot more this season Mm-hmm where he's able to not let the emotions get in the way and he thinks at that more pragmatic level-headed thing where he's like

[00:05:55] You know, he says I like that quote He says we don't have to forgive him But we can't leave him and I think not just because Gus is a better person and wants to help him But he believes

[00:06:06] Singh is right. I think that he does know Singh well enough to see the knowledge that this doctor has could be Paramount to the success of whatever birdies mission is and if they managed to find her and like and it's because of this shared

[00:06:20] Dream that Singh has given some information that means something to Gus Peaks his interest there a little bit by mentioning the cave in Alaska and the visions and Stuff that they never really mentioned before they didn't realize. Oh, you've seen the same things, you know

[00:06:34] I've seen the exact same stuff or at least similar Which is interesting. I'm curious to see where they go with that in this Season and like the way they wrap that up like is it supernatural? Is it some divine revelation? Like yeah, what does it mean?

[00:06:49] I'm curious to see if we'll get that explained and the grand scheme of the show what that really means Yeah, so they take him along and then really the only the other part of that is seeing that he is changed in

[00:07:05] Several ways he's trying to undo the wrongs that he did. He really is making a point To do the right thing where realizing that this this woman unnamed just credited as Theo's mom even in like the captions

[00:07:19] Needs help and he steps in he's like I'm gonna help and then even when he realizes that Jep and Becky are like ready to bail that clearly something's wrong with the situation. He tells them Whatever you guys are planning. I'm not going anywhere

[00:07:32] I told this woman I'm gonna help her and I'm gonna help her refuses to leave because Something he's got to make some kind of correct decision. He has to do something, right? he has to help somebody and he's gonna see this delivery through and then

[00:07:43] Even after the baby is delivered and and then the father is Asking him to mutilate this baby to make it quote-unquote normal because no ears it's totally normal, right? But Singh refuses like he's after all the things he did for Abbott and everything that they've gone through

[00:08:01] He says, you know, I'm not gonna harm this child. He's not gonna harm another kid That's that is behind him and he's turning a new leaf and he's trying to prove that like he's still alive for a purpose to undo the wrongs that he did and

[00:08:13] And make something meaningful of his time here and I so I think I believe him I'm I'm on camp sing here a little bit that I think he is reforming and really is going to be capable of redeeming himself in his past choices I Hope so and

[00:08:37] Seeing was my first point too So I'll just add to what you're saying and you know, just have a conversation about it but you know I recall in like season one when we were first introduced to him and you know

[00:08:49] We were really praising him like he's such a good guy and look at all the good that he's done And you know talking about all the good qualities and then we saw

[00:08:58] Quite an arc in season two. Yeah where that was a huge decline and you know, I think All of us were really, you know had turned our opinions on dr. Singh obviously for what he had done and So I am interested in seeing

[00:09:17] You know how he continues on this path and you know, I really feel like he's Not just doing it to like prove himself to Gus And Wendy and I mean, he doesn't know Becky or Jep, but I think he's trying to earn their trust. I think he is

[00:09:34] Doing it for himself because I I think with everything that happened in season two, you know Ronnie left team and with everything else that he went through At the end of season three that he did recognize like whoa, who is that person? That's not me

[00:09:51] And you know like Gus at least in this episode, you know I don't know what will happen in other episodes You know like in this episode like I'm not ready to forgive dr. Singh at this point either his misdeeds I do think he's got some work to do

[00:10:06] But I do believe like you that he can and will Redeem himself in some way whatever happens from here on And he's already, you know proving himself to be useful for the trip to Alaska

[00:10:20] I mean, I don't think that you know Becky or Jep if it were just them alone, you know, I mean well obviously I mean they were getting the door slammed in their face until dr. Singh jumped in and was like, hey

[00:10:31] I'm a doctor is someone in need of medical help and otherwise He just didn't have the time of day for them. So he was already proving to be valuable and helpful in At least helping get them. I mean it didn't work out. They didn't get the plane

[00:10:49] But you know, they were at least able to Get a van to be able to help further them along a little bit So he's already kind of proving, you know that he can be useful and resourceful

[00:11:01] And be valuable because I'm sure a doctor doctors are probably just like in any post-apocalyptic world probably pretty darn valuable And I'm curious, you know, because he he's not just a doctor, but he's you know

[00:11:15] He's very research oriented as well, too. So I'm wondering what you know what he can take what he learned or knows Once they And of course, this is all assuming they are going to get to Alaska that they are going to find birdie

[00:11:30] I mean, this is perfect scenario here. I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen but if they do reunite or guess reunites with with birdie and seeing is also there that he's gonna somehow Somehow be helpful with his scientific mind to

[00:11:50] Hopefully come up with a cure. I know that that was her mission So I'm hopeful as well And I you know, I do believe him like you said when he refused to harm that baby

[00:12:02] You know, he it feels like he's probably said like I will you know, he's remembering his oath like first do no harm Right. That's like the Hippocratic Oath Part of it anyway that doctors take and seems like he's remembered that so I liked I liked

[00:12:18] Seeing that and I was curious to him like what is this link, you know between Seeing and Gus and these dreams that they that they are sharing about the cave. I don't know if there's anything supernatural there

[00:12:31] You know when they're like, oh, it's it's it's both pulling us there, but I'm like Okay We haven't really had like a lot of like I mean, I know we're dealing with hybrids here, right?

[00:12:43] But I mean like as far as like supernatural elements we haven't really had anything like that yet, I don't think in the show So there's some underlying is like with the visions and like maybe there is a scientific explanation for it that the show will go with

[00:12:58] but yeah, I mean between you know, although like the visions and the things they're seeing but then even Something that's been around since early season one that like still hasn't been addressed is like Gus has this some kind of connection to other

[00:13:12] Animals and wildlife with the deer showing up and the bison showing up to trampled Abbott and all these things that we've seen That still really have no explanation Yep. Yep, that's true. So I mean they're they're very well could be something. I mean there's something

[00:13:27] anyway, you know that is Linking the two and you know why they're both getting these like dreams or visions, you know about this cave So kind of interesting, you know, it's and it's fine if you know, there doesn't have to be anything scientific to it

[00:13:42] But you know just curious and maybe it's unexplained You know, but maybe that's what brought like them to to kind of Merge together in each other's lives, you know to meet each other for that reason And then as all of this was playing out. I totally forgot that

[00:14:03] Becky or Jep had never met. Dr Singh like they didn't know who he was and they probably only knew who he was from you know Wendy or Gus or the other kids when they were all You know on their trip together

[00:14:16] Yeah, you know that that's the only way that they know who he is. So I totally forgot about that I was like, oh, yeah, you guys hadn't met him. You didn't know That took a moment to remember

[00:14:29] But yeah, yeah, I'm with you I share that opinion about dr. Singh, I'm really hopeful I did believe him in this episode He seemed to be very sincere And seemed more like that season one. Dr. Singh. Yeah that we got to know and that we liked then

[00:14:46] That's a good one let's let's hope he stays true. Yeah. All right Well, that was also my first point Do you want me to just move on to my second one or do you want to go ahead? Either way?

[00:15:00] Go right ahead. I'm letting you lead tonight. All right No, she's gonna talk about some other side characters I guess that we got some more of that I was really happy with so I'm just gonna talk about

[00:15:13] Up in Alaska. We got more of Sienna and her daughter Nuka cutest yes, I was I remember last week saying like man, I hope that that's not all we get of them And so it seems like they might be a little bit more crucial to the plot. Hopefully

[00:15:28] as Yeah, they're out looking for birdie and trying to put clues together So hopefully we might see more of them, but the little bit that we did get in this episode of them I enjoyed as well a little bit more of the community again

[00:15:44] Not like super in-depth, but we did get some more explanation or kind of understanding what's going on Sienna seems to be Somewhat of a leader in the community at least she's been there a long time and she's highly respected if anything and She's helping keep things running

[00:15:59] she's talking with people about their like relationships with each other between them and also just the actual logistics of Keeping things running the you know electricity and supplies and we got a little bit of answer

[00:16:11] I remember last week you're asking, you know, you were wondering like what about food and supplies? How does this work? And so we see like there's a greenhouse set up there that Seems to be focusing mainly on like fungi and like certain greens that can you know

[00:16:24] they're easier to maintain with limited heat and light and There's there's some kind of because I was looking around in that room and I guess a lot of mushrooms in there That's mostly what's it? Which I guess makes sense Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was happy for that

[00:16:39] I was like, thank you cuz I just I don't know. It's a nice interesting little peek, you know into How are how are they surviving, you know, so yeah Yeah, and Sienna learns that you know birdies

[00:16:52] Snowmobile was found but not her and something or maybe there was the maybe they found what had happened at her Shack out there that there was like a signs of a struggle or something

[00:17:01] So they go out to check on that find the snowmobile following it from the shack Realize somebody was after which is again good like cuz at first I was a little unsure

[00:17:10] I was like, do you really want to have a kid out here in this like weather and also like what if you find something? You run across something is she safe out here?

[00:17:19] But then I was like, oh, yeah the whole hybrid aspect of her like her nose and her tracking skills Like that's why she's there. Yeah her special powers. Yeah And and so that's why you know, they're to help find birdie if they can And

[00:17:35] So they do they find the snowmobile? No footprints. I mean snow is a kind of a blizzard II situation going on that covers most stuff except for these giant bipedal caribou tracks

[00:17:47] Which Nuka says the caribou man and I was like, is that a known thing in this community? Yeah, or more likely it's probably like one of those like urban legend like a legend

[00:17:57] Some kid or some person saw it or thought they saw something and then like everybody's like, oh the caribou man Like it's just like a joke, but nobody believes in it. Although it actually is real apparently Yes, that's so under is like the way that she says it

[00:18:12] It's like apparently that's a thing at least some kind of urban legend in the community there like big fat. Yeah And then we did get an answer With thanks to scenes with them about yeah the bounty hunter that was chasing birdie

[00:18:27] Cuz like what did happen to him and I think I speculated and I was like, yeah, that's exactly what happened Is that hybrid this caribou man, whatever? Definitely took him out and saved her Yeah, I was curious what happened to that dude chasing her down

[00:18:44] Cuz I don't remember hearing well, it I don't know all I could really hear during that scene was just the howling of the wind and the snow and I was like, where did that dude, you know go? I don't remember hearing any

[00:19:00] Struggle or like screams or anything like that So I'm glad we got an answer to that and at least they seem at least for the moment safe from that guy But yeah a lot of questions. Yeah, I wanted to talk about this too, but

[00:19:17] I did find it interesting that we did get to circle back to that community got a little bit of a peek into How they're surviving? Because I personally find that interesting, you know, not that it's important to the story

[00:19:31] But you know, I feel like well, there's got to be or you know, they've got to be doing something They seem like a fairly large community and I it I like it because it also seems like Sienna's

[00:19:43] Kind of training Nuka a little bit to also be a leader, you know when she's you know It's funny how she always knows that she's like lurking about you know, she doesn't even turn to that direction She's like Nuka and she comes out behind some plants and stuff

[00:19:59] Cuz she's always just she's just the cutest Precocious little kid. She's so adorable. But she's like, you know, what do you think? They should do and she's like they should apologize to each other and she's like and you know

[00:20:15] And then she's like they should switch charging days, you know alternate charging days and I was like Well, that's a pretty smart idea from this little kid, you know, so I don't know if you know, there's you know, she's kind of

[00:20:28] You know keeping her around in those situations you know and letting her chime in to kind of get her used to like taking over for her one day or You know to be a part, you know of the problem-solving Because again, it's not real defined

[00:20:42] yet anyway what Santa's Role is but like you said she is clearly some type of leader because that one woman I don't know if it said what her name was that was in charge of the greenhouse She's like I'm gonna call her, you know, so I mean, yeah

[00:20:57] It's clearly if she's the person you're gonna reach out to then sounds like she's in some some sort of leadership position So I thought that was that was pretty cool that she had you know, Nuka involved

[00:21:10] You know and she even seemed to be in like their little like command center area You know where there's like looks like communications like there were maps or you know, whatever in that room that Sienna was was in so she's she's definitely like involved

[00:21:26] Yeah, like in things and around to hear the things and and I like that. She didn't like Treat her like a little kid like she wasn't really like trying to keep things from her. I feel like you know

[00:21:39] Some adults can try to either lie to kids or try to hide the truth a little bit or not really be Truthful with them, but I like how she was just like, you know, she was asking her questions

[00:21:50] She's like, you know, we said the sick was getting really bad and so she's like, yeah it is and we've been really lucky And you know, so she's like being truthful and honest with her And you know, I think she's still keeping it to like her level

[00:22:02] So she understands because she is a child but she's like telling her the truth and I always appreciate Yeah, appreciate that. I hate it when I watch TV shows and You know, they like just trust your kid, you know, tell them the truth So anyway, I appreciated that

[00:22:21] She was doing that Those were all good things. Yeah, I was curious. I was like, oh is that Caribou man, is he known like this legend and they just see what footprints out in the snow sometimes or somebody's seen him like a

[00:22:37] From a distance out in the snowy blizzard or something and just like, you know back to the community somewhere There's like a blurry picture on a wall Somewhere So I could think of it's like this bigfoot character or something that There's there's evidence but nothing no proof. Oh

[00:22:59] Gosh Well, and that leads me to like my next point. We've talked a lot about like that that situation But you know when I when I saw because at the very very end We actually get to see This I guess caribou man

[00:23:15] I'm sure he has a name and we'll be sure to call him that when when we learn it But I was like, hey Take was right It seems we do have much older hybrid Who happens to be a caribou hybrid? That has taken birdie to this church now

[00:23:45] She mentioned this church right in yeah, it was it was in all of like Thackers Yeah, I think that could like his like all the journals and all the stuff there was this church that was sketched in there a lot and apparently

[00:23:59] The the wife of I think Burke or whatever that was pregnant which was probably the mother of this I'm still making that assumption or that kind of theory Said something about like oh didn't she leave she went to the church and then birdie was like

[00:24:13] That's what the journal say, but I've never been able to find this church. There's no sign of it existing So it's been this like place that she's been hunting for and hasn't been able to find And then now she's found it

[00:24:23] Yeah, and probably for good reason that I mean, I don't know what's hiding it and why she hasn't been able to find it but I mean if this Caribou man, this hybrid has been living there then I

[00:24:39] Mean sounds like he's he's keeping himself hidden and that's probably why He's not really Then I mean sounds like he's he's keeping himself hidden and that's probably why there's probably a You know part of the reason why?

[00:24:57] But you know, we didn't get a whole I didn't pause the screen it was pretty dark so I didn't get to see everything You know that was in there and even if I had I don't even know if it would have been helpful

[00:25:08] But so we just got a very very brief glimpse of that. So, you know getting to learn. Okay Who is this hybrid or person that we keep seeing the footprints and you know just glimpses of in past seasons and now we've got the full-on face and

[00:25:27] Holding up a picture of Gus asking, you know Guess his baby pic anyway and asking who who is he? You know Does this hybrid even know there are other hybrids out in the world like right does does he?

[00:25:43] Does he know what's going on in the world? Like does he know about the sick? Does he know about other hybrids? Does he think he's the only one, you know, really really curious to see

[00:25:54] Like what what information we get if any in the next episode or at least the next time we get You know birdie on the this time. We got just a

[00:26:04] Couple of minutes if even that so I don't know if we'll get more than that next episode, but whatever we get I'm anxious to hear about This story and what's going on? Yeah, that's a good question that you posed

[00:26:16] There's like how isolated has he been his whole life. Does he yeah, does he know anything that's going on? Does he know why he exists? Does he know anything about that? And yeah Interesting to see that conversation

[00:26:29] Yeah, I think there's obviously a lot of key information there. You know that That it's fortunate that Birdie is the one that was like taken there Yeah But yeah, super interesting and wish we had gotten a little bit more but that's okay

[00:26:49] we did focus primarily on that family and Theo and You know continuing that part of the journey, but ready to see, you know kind of get some more information Alright what's your next point? All right, I have like

[00:27:06] One more ginormous point that I'm gonna break into two parts So I'll do like a part one then we'll go back to you and then I can kind of like finish it up because it's kind of

[00:27:16] Metaphors and analysis of like what this episode is about to me at least a lot of the things that I see in there People have to deal with it. I might get on my soapbox just a little bit. I'm gonna try to be nice

[00:27:28] When you get on your soapbox cake, yeah, but but there's a lot of really cool stuff in this and then also You know, I'll break it into two points

[00:27:35] So really a lot of it is this family that we spend a lot of the time with here in their house then and his son Theo So I'll focus more on on the parents and the you know family aspect there on the first half

[00:27:50] We're introduced to them Theo and his parents were then which I kept think it was Ben until I watched it the second time with With the subtitles. I was like, oh that's a V that they're using in here. It's not what I Gotta love the subtitles. Yeah

[00:28:06] Yeah where he's taking off in his plane so he can find a doctor He said in Twin Falls Is that the same place that like Jep and Amy were spending a little bit of time?

[00:28:14] Is that I didn't go back for sure like to tell is that what it was called or is that a different place? I don't know. I don't recall but they're still in Idaho right Twin Falls is in Idaho. Okay. Yeah. Yeah

[00:28:25] Yeah, I think so if I remember my geography Yeah Yeah, either way so he's going to find a doctor which as you mentioned earlier Are kind of a rarity and an invaluable asset right now

[00:28:37] So, of course, he comes up empty and doesn't find anything and comes back but by coming back That's where the the team see his plane and he winds up having dr. Singh there

[00:28:49] Which it was, you know, like serendipitous that Singh is there with them or yeah that he would have had nothing to do with him shut them out and Never listened to him for a second

[00:28:59] Although so he let's sing Jep and Becky in he is put off by Gus and Wendy and makes them stay outside like pets But also for multiple reasons he leaves them out One again, he's got this like you know a Prejudice and

[00:29:19] This thing, you know with him and this issue of his son that he's been hiding the truth about and this whole Our baby better not be a hybrid and Then also I think he's already seen he might recognize Gus from that wanted poster and he's already

[00:29:37] Thinking they better not be bringing trouble to my family Mm-hmm. And so he's like they're not I have plausible deniability of the if the guy you know, Gus never steps foot in the house Then I didn't help him. I had nothing to do with it Mm-hmm

[00:29:51] But then he makes this deal that if Singh can help then's wife deliver the baby Then he'll give them a ride to the coast in the plane in theory. That's the plan. He doesn't hold true to it at all But that was his initial plan

[00:30:06] There was the line where you know, he tells him to stay outside or something and Becky says that's my sister You're talking about and just the way that he responded that excuse me. I didn't notice the resemblance

[00:30:16] I was like, I can't tell if that was racist or hybrid dist maybe both. I don't know Sure, either I was absolutely I think my jaw dropped I was like, excuse me, sir, right? like

[00:30:33] Dang, and then of course on second watch you pick up on a lot of like little things that are said that I was like Oh, it makes way more sense once you know what's coming what the reveal is

[00:30:41] It was like right off the top. He lies about Theo's age. She says oh we have a son He's 12 and I'm like, well, obviously he's not because that math doesn't add up if he's not a quote-unquote normal kid

[00:30:52] you know, he would be fully human if that case because Since he's a hybrid. He's definitely younger than Gus. That's how that works is Gus was kind of the one that kick-started everything, right?

[00:31:03] And then it froze like it is it hard to read where Vin sets cuz you know They're like what's your problem with hybrids? And then he's like well It's not that I have a problem with hybrids

[00:31:13] Other people out there have a problem with hybrids and I don't want them to deal with this And so here's where I get to step on my soapbox for just a minute You know, he doesn't fear hybrid kids

[00:31:23] but he fears the way the world looks at them and that's why he would hate to have one because It's an excuse that he's using So the the metaphor the allegory the connection I'm making is it's fitting that this is dropping in June Pride my yeah

[00:31:39] This episode I really believe is legitimately a Great metaphor for like LGBTQ kids and their struggles with Families that don't accept them for who they are and try to like suppress

[00:31:53] Who they are tell them that who they are is wrong or that they're not actually this or that And you know, it's this kind of that excuse that you hear in real life You know, oh, it's not that I couldn't stand having a gay or trans kid

[00:32:07] It's that how would the world view them and what would people say? So that's why I'm so against it It's it's for their safety and well-being. It's not that I have a fear or a problem or hatred of it

[00:32:16] It's like yeah, it's the kind of typical BS we see every day Yes So again, hopefully not too much soapboxing But like it's it's prevalent to this episode and I feel like it is a big theme that they were going for

[00:32:32] And then Vin does drop some hints as well as a hybrid someone he's talking to Jep and he says well They hate anyone who's different and then he follows that we going. That's why I moved my family to this farm It's like wait, why why did you say?

[00:32:46] So he's kind of accidentally saying that there is something about Theo in that instance And of course the wanted poster that Becky finds and so that puts them on edge because they know they can't trust him fully

[00:33:02] And then when the baby is born which this is a random and very specific reference But the baby is born the silhouette that sing holds up looks just like Winslow T

[00:33:11] Oddfellow from cat dog like all two people that get that reference might appreciate it, but that's what it looked like to me Of course then we see like his mother holding him like see him in full and I was like, oh no

[00:33:26] He's an incredibly adorable little baby. That's fine Adorable What she names the baby Hieronymus Which can't be a coincidence as well. I think at least to me it's in a way. It's a reference to Hieronymus Bosch I believe I think so

[00:33:44] Which who is an artist who specialized in art who depicted that depicted like fantastical elements But used a lot of religious and Allah, you know symbolism and allegories. Mm-hmm

[00:33:55] And I feel like yeah, that's a little again on the nose of like what this episode is doing a little bit in some ways Also because it has the word like it looks like mouse at the end and that's just a pun

[00:34:12] But yeah, I mean and then after the baby is delivered and born and saved from from being mutilated you know, they have to leave they have to get out and Jep tries one last time to get to Vin where he says we did the right thing

[00:34:29] I hope that everybody here can do the right thing and it's like Sorry, he's got no intention of doing that he's he's gonna sell you out because at the end of the day, he's a coward and that's kind of

[00:34:41] Where he stands luckily Theo found that inner strength that he needed to save his brother and then help save Gus and company afterwards and give them the van and I think

[00:34:51] We might not have seen the last of this family either. I don't know. Maybe the wife maybe I don't even know We'll see Theo again, but Near the end of the episode, of course, we see Rosie

[00:35:01] Zhang showing up to Vins house there and you know Gus is gone He screwed up then screwed himself a lot because now he's being forced into helping track down Gus and finding him and I don't know how well that's gonna end for him

[00:35:15] It doesn't it doesn't seem very well. This saying family is trouble. Yeah For sure. I don't think they care about who they use And what happens to anyone that they they bring in, you know

[00:35:33] In this fight. So yeah, I don't think he did himself any favors making that call. Yeah If only would listen to Jeff and just done the right thing You know so so many stories that we see and not just in sweet tooth, but other stories too of

[00:35:52] Where you just want people to do the right thing, you know and that Definitely stands stands out here Well Theo and his family obviously were one of my points as well You know, we talked about you know

[00:36:09] How this was a little bit of a minor detour to kind of see other stories in this world and you know how how it's affecting other people and how they're surviving and you know, and then to have to witness, you know

[00:36:26] Theo and his awful bigoted piece of human garbage of a father You know that that was hard, you know And I'm an X-Men fan I know you are as well and I see so many parallels with this story and like, you know the

[00:36:45] You know commentary of the X-Men, you know when yeah, you know talking about you know unusual appearances and abilities and you know how you know The mutants in the story of X-Men are targets themselves of prejudice and discriminate discrimination

[00:37:02] And you know how their main mission was always to protect a world that fears and hates them So I see so much of that, you know where you know, I mean I feel like didn't Stan Lee wasn't it

[00:37:16] You know the story of X-Men like a civil rights allegory yeah, you know to teach like tolerance and evils of bigotry and You know, I feel like this just plays into it too. It's very similar and I was questioning

[00:37:34] I'm like, I feel like I saw because I'm like, okay, I I get that This father wants to protect his family and his son His son is a hybrid and he's absolutely right the the world out there Most people are very intolerant of hybrids

[00:37:53] He's not wrong. And so I don't think he was wrong to find a place that was isolated and and you know It's unfortunate that Theo Is like at least it up until this point and only child doesn't have any other child friends and you know

[00:38:11] gets to be like I have like a Childhood, you know essentially But he does have a very strong imagination. Yeah So he's definitely learned to like develop that and but I was I felt kind of sad for him having to just

[00:38:26] But so I get that part I'm like, okay, I get wanting to protect your family wanting to protect your son from this awful world but Is it Like did he get twisted along the way like what you know, I'm curious like what was he like before?

[00:38:44] You know, I mean, I'm not sure I'm not sure I don't know. I don't know I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know Before You know

[00:38:56] Was he always not accepting of his child? or is it just because he got so scared and paranoid of the world that it's like made him this way and look so Not excusing any of his behavior by any means because I mean it's absolutely deplorable

[00:39:13] But I'm always curious about how people get to be the way that they are Yeah, so it was he just always and a garbage human or you know, did he kind of turn a little more that way because of the fear and the paranoia of

[00:39:30] The world and I guess they call it the crumble, you know, and and how his child, you know could be in danger. So Curious how he kind of came out to be that way. Yeah, it's again kind of an allegory in its itself

[00:39:44] I think of this idea that You know you there is a healthy fear because you know in parallels of in this story and in real life for the things that this

[00:39:54] Is mirroring where yeah, there's still a lot of danger out there for people who are different in one way or another Mm-hmm, and that like there's there's a lot of people who are terrible out in the world who do aim to do harm

[00:40:07] And so you do have to take precautions and you have to be careful and you have to to worry about those things to some degree but then I think There's other aspects of that that poison the minds of people that you know, then you start believing

[00:40:22] Some of the things that you're being told and you start going. Well, maybe it is wrong Maybe there is this and so I think you know then to a certain degree But then we see it play out in Theo to where he's a hybrid

[00:40:32] He knows he's a hybrid and yet he's sitting here saying well hybrids are dumb and are are Dangerous and like he's believing lies about himself He's like what Gus says to them, it's like you're teaching them to hate themselves

[00:40:47] Because you're trying to protect them and you're doing it the wrong way Mm-hmm, and we see those parallels in real life where it's like people believe a lot of the lies and start to decide Oh, well, then I must be

[00:40:59] Evil, I must be this. I must be that it must be true. Yeah, there's something damaging to people and their families within themselves. Yeah Yeah, that that was so hard because I mean absolutely it's it's not okay how His parents were abusing

[00:41:18] Him and teaching him essentially to hate himself like there was something wrong with him and Before and I mean I was not I was surprised honestly to you know

[00:41:30] I was not guessing at all that he was a hybrid child by any means until he had revealed his his wings So I you know, and then I'm when I see that and I'm like, oh my gosh the things he was just saying about hybrids

[00:41:45] You know that, you know, they're dumb and they're just animals and 70% of their you know And he thinks he was thinking like hybrids eat people or something's like don't don't eat me or my rooster and right when he's like we don't eat people and

[00:42:01] Yeah, a little snarky. I was just like oh no bullshit percentages being thrown out to show how a certain group is inferior or wrong Where have I seen that before? Yeah

[00:42:12] Yeah, so I was like, oh my gosh he he's been told these things and his parents or at least his dad You know is making him believe these things. I was like how awful And just disgusting Behavior and then, you know to see like

[00:42:34] They're they're harming Theo right making him suppress his abilities making him like tape up and bind his wings and then wanting to go so far as to when their newborn son is born to disfigure and mutilate an innocent baby You know

[00:42:59] That was tough I was so thankful that there you know between seeing and Jeb You know and Becky that there were people there, you know to stop them And you know, like you said wise words from Gus, you know You're teaching teaching him to hate himself

[00:43:16] You know that I thought was strong powerful words I don't know if any of that got through to him because it looked like at the end, you know

[00:43:24] She's holding the baby and you know, he's he's there and I don't know if he was excuse me getting to a place of acceptance or not, I Mean, I hope so for Theo's sake and for that baby's sake. Yeah, but that was tough

[00:43:40] That was tough. Like I said, I you know, I get to a point what he was trying to do But boy, he would he got super twisted. Yeah That was gross What is your next point so yes also mine too you want to go into your part two

[00:43:56] Yeah so part two which was that was a lot of that was then looking at more of the Theo side of things and the way that he's affected specifically Which you know, we see him right off the bat, especially when he starts were

[00:44:08] Interacting with Wendy and Gus. He's feels a bit of a peculiar kid sweet kid, though But he's a little but again He's been isolation like you said and not just on his own in that isolation

[00:44:21] But he's been raised with a certain fear of people that are like him again like that parallel He's raised to hate who he is and to question all of these things So yeah, his only friend he's got is Kirby the rooster which was kind of random

[00:44:37] But okay, I kind of enjoyed like he's got something somebody or at least he did But uh Yeah, and we also see he's got this obsession with like being a superhero Really specifically this ability to fly which then when we learn like he does or he should

[00:44:57] You know, but he's been dreaming of being something more He's wanting this ability and to be this person that has been denied him his whole life That there's still this part of him that knows like that's but that's who I am. And that's what I crave

[00:45:09] That's what I'm that's who I'm supposed to be Mm-hmm again, there's like little hints that we get to his reveal because With the antler when he realizes what what Gus is carrying and he asks Gus if oh, did your parents cut it off?

[00:45:23] And he the way he asked it like it wasn't like a shocking thing It was like oh because that's a very normal thing that parents do Cuz Gus reacts like no, why would you ask me that but like

[00:45:35] The way he asked it. It was just this very like oh that makes sense Like we see into we get a little glimpse into what his life has been But Gus and Wendy I think

[00:45:46] They might have picked up on what was going on even before cuz you know guys asks him or you know How old are you? And he's just like well, I'm not supposed to talk about it I think they'd put some things together and figured out and so

[00:45:59] they were, you know cutting a little bit in their own way of talking about, you know the other hybrid kids and There's like these like little ways that they're like kind of seeping into Theo's mind it's like you're not

[00:46:11] Weird like you're not alone. There are others like you and Look, they're all incredibly In like awesome at smart kids and they're also capable and they all have these really cool abilities and powers that make them special and unique just like you can be and

[00:46:27] They're just throwing all this kind of stuff at him which was really sweet to just kind of bring up in remind us of a lot of those kids and And who they were plus, you know, what kind of hybrid is Bobby I don't know

[00:46:44] What kind is he he's a creepy one that somehow gets cuter the more you see him but It was good to think of Bobby again for a little bit hope he's doing good with his his new air Lord friend

[00:46:57] But yeah, just those things we then get the reveal that Theo is a hybrid which he's got bat wings He's a bat boy, which is cool And we see with those like maybe they're underdeveloped a little bit or at least they're weak because they've been bound and hidden

[00:47:10] For like his whole life that again He's literally been taught to conceal his true self from everyone and literally never spread his wings and soar right? Like he's never been able to do that. He's never been able to do that

[00:47:22] To suppress it or forget that it exists. Yeah, yeah, which that scene again a little bit of light-heartedness the beach ball to the face I was really sure that was gonna work Yeah, but again is you know, he was taught to ignore and suppress who it

[00:47:45] So cute, yeah, but again is you know, he was taught to ignore and suppress who it who he was that made him him so We're just seeing all those little things

[00:47:54] But then as he's able to step up and find that inner strength and he helps Gus and Wendy and them escape And you know his wings are out and you say see him kind of becoming more comfortable with like

[00:48:06] Oh look who I can be and things can be much better when I When I Embrace that and then even seeing that his hearing is coming back a little bit when he can tell oh my dad's coming you've got to go now like he's

[00:48:20] He's he's you know becoming more himself and realizing his potential and I don't know if we'll see Theo again I just hope that like if we don't it's like I'll just pack it away in the back of my head like and then everything

[00:48:32] Was fine for him and he was okay the end, you know, yes, that's how I'm choosing to leave it if we don't see them again Live in my own little dream world that his his parents

[00:48:45] Come to the realization. Oh, we're awful. We should change our ways and accept our children and love them for who they are and Love love the things that make them different

[00:48:58] You know versus trying to suppress or harm them in any way. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna go with Mm-hmm Let's hope so Yeah, Theo was an interesting little boy. He definitely I mean his attic his little space that he had

[00:49:15] I mean that kid had some imagination which again probably out of necessity due to his loneliness and isolation Being an only child and not having other kids to you know play with and you know, not having any type of community

[00:49:31] But he could certainly draw and had quite an imagination and So I I liked his interactions with with Gus and Wendy and that I Think it was good that they that they met

[00:49:45] I think you needed needed to I can't imagine what the rest of his life and again Assuming we don't see them again. I'll just live in my own little happy world of rainbows and unicorns that

[00:49:56] Everything, you know him and his little brother are going to you know, have a Good like upbringing moving forward and you know parents have learned their lesson You know that, you know, he'll you know now be more well adjusted and can you know?

[00:50:13] Maybe really literally spread his wings and fly. Yeah I was curious I was like it showed him like try you know Trying to like fly on the roof of his house and I saw his feet come up a little bit

[00:50:27] From the roof and I was a little like are those wings really gonna support that that boy? I mean, I get it their wings but they're they're kind of smallish bat wings and I wonder like said like maybe a little

[00:50:40] Underdeveloped because he's not been able to actually use them and they've been bound probably his entire life Those really support the weight of that little boy

[00:50:50] Like don't step out any further there Theo I wouldn't be I would be testing it out on any high ground right baby steps We're gonna work slowly with this. Okay. Yeah, go go go back down on surface level and try that out

[00:51:02] You know and see see what happens but yeah, I was a good I think good introduction to to Theo and Gosh just having to see more garbage people in the world just sucks

[00:51:19] I only have a few notes left. Do you have any more points? No more points. I've also just got notes Let's see if you have mine, I'll go through a few of mine and then feel free to jump in with yours

[00:51:37] I and some of them are more quotes, but I did love to see Jep saying To Becky kind of repeating what then had said and said well Then we will do whatever we have to to protect our family, you know after she had revealed

[00:51:55] You know, hey this guy has a wanted poster of Guests he's wanted the people are after him and he knows he's gonna turn us in and she's really starting to go in panic mode

[00:52:06] So at that reveal, you know, he kind of brings her back down. So I really love That relationship between Jep and Becky between each other and kind of balancing each other out

[00:52:18] But I really loved that. It was like, oh, you know, they they are like their own little family Now and that Jep is still willing to do what what he needs to to protect them So

[00:52:34] One question that I had though and maybe this was covered in a flashback episode We had a lot of flashbacks from I think in season two to other events Did we know before?

[00:52:48] That it was birdie and that company that she worked for that explored that cave and brought back the sick Did we know that I think so, okay There were a lot of different flashbacks from like we saw

[00:53:02] drilling drilling into the ice and bringing back all those samples and then And then they're taking those samples from the ice and putting them into the eggs and that's how they got This virus strain and then Gus came from another one. That's right. Okay

[00:53:17] Thanks for that reminder. I was like, oh gosh I like I said, I did not go back and rewatch season two. So that was one of the details that escaped me I knew they had something but I wasn't couldn't quite remember like were they actually up there and

[00:53:31] They got into something yeah, but yep that makes sense. Thanks for the refresher I appreciated bears quick thinking to lead the wolves away By grabbing every something from everyone and leading them away on on the horse buying them some time

[00:53:49] She's always got great. I think survival skills. So yeah great to see that which the horse that was sings horse wasn't I Was like where did that horse come from I think it was By horse, yeah, we'll never see you again

[00:54:08] At least there's no walkers out there like in The Walking Dead where the horse always seems to like have a bad ending which always hated in that show I Feel like we got a little nugget of information here

[00:54:24] So if you disagree with me, let me know or if you think differently So we get a little bit more of information about Zang's one daughter that is still home with her and she's pregnant and she

[00:54:39] She's somehow thinking that Gus and maybe other hybrids are the key to somehow preventing Her daughter's baby from turning to a hybrid and we got this little nugget from dr. Singh when he was helping Then and his pregnant wife

[00:54:58] And she's like, you know, tell me my baby will be normal You know have there been any normal babies since since all of this and how whatever she says and he's like he just kind of

[00:55:08] you know tries to you know, very gently level set with her and be like Sorry, but you know no but tells her that hybrid features start to form In the third trimester. Yeah, I think it's time. We've heard that. Yeah, I don't recall that before so I

[00:55:29] Don't know how far along Zang's daughter is But is she is that why that that information was? Provided to us that maybe she's not in the third trimester and design somehow know that that That the hybrid features don't start to develop until like the third trimester

[00:55:48] So she's trying to like before she gets to the third trimester somehow be able to prevent the features from forming. Yeah How's Zang would know that I don't know unless she was somehow privy to sings

[00:56:00] You know stuff through meeting with Abbott and then I don't know what all she knows, but If she's aware of that then yeah, that kind of seems to be why they threw that in there is it

[00:56:10] Sounds like her daughter is not quite there yet, but it's getting close and that's why she's like very Anxious to like get it done as soon as possible. Like she's really

[00:56:22] Worried about making you bring me that dear kid cuz like time is of the essence like your your sister is almost Past the point of no return. So we've got to do it now

[00:56:33] Yeah, I don't know that that because I was like well then how would she know that how how would she know that information did Did she get it from? saying or

[00:56:44] Somewhere else or was it just kind of known and that's just the first that we're hearing of it. I I don't know But I just thought it was interesting that she keeps because I'm like, what are you gonna do? Like she's going to have the baby You

[00:57:02] If if the baby is a hybrid the baby's a hybrid there's nothing you can do to change that but then hearing dr. Singh say Well features start to develop during or you know at the start of the third trimester, so I'm like, oh

[00:57:15] Is she not yet in the third trimester? She knows this information She thinks that there's something that she can do which I mean, I'm seriously doubt it But you know does she think that there's something that can be done to prevent that from happening before?

[00:57:27] She gets that far in her pregnancy or something. Yeah, that's where there's like a suspension of disbelief I guess to some degree because Does she have does she have did she have access to to sings research or something in some way working with Abbott?

[00:57:42] We don't know maybe in our workings and what went on in you know downtime that we didn't see on the show But maybe yeah, there's some way that she has sings research so she knows that and then also knows that maybe Singh found that

[00:57:57] Something in Gus's DNA really is more of the answer than the other hybrids. Mm-hmm yeah, it just seemed coincidental that we're hearing what Zang is saying like

[00:58:11] We're back to hit the point of no return and then we hear this little nugget from Singh and I'm like that can't be Just a coincidence so that's that's what I'm thinking

[00:58:21] But and like I said, maybe it's a suspension of disbelief a little that we're just gotta be like, okay, maybe it's just more known And we're just learning it, you know Catch up audience. We knew this the whole time

[00:58:38] But interesting we'll see I guess if we get more information or if that's actually what she's trying to do Because she's awful she even if she gets her hands on Gus like now like what's her actual plan? What is she gonna do?

[00:58:53] Yeah, what is she what's she planning on doing with him? Or how does she think that he's I feel like we're missing some information I don't know if they're gonna if it's just gonna get fed to us in more episodes

[00:59:03] But I feel like we're we're missing a little bit Why Zang is after Gus other than just thinking that he's somehow the key to Helping her daughter's baby or preventing, you know, I don't know. I don't know feel like I don't know some stuff there

[00:59:23] And then just my last note was just a funny line from Becky when she was helping I'm never having kids Just had to laugh Just having that wake-up call now is she's still young seeing everything that goes into it. She's just like yeah, I'm good

[00:59:51] Yes, very funny I Love the little You know drops of humor. Yeah here and there that we get like so the beach ball to the

[01:00:02] With the music because it was just like this like just close your eyes and try really hard and focus and see if it'll come back And it's like this like uplifting kind of music and it's like, oh is he gonna do it then? Wham? It's like no

[01:00:19] Guess it is the cutest Gonna miss that kid when this shows over funny we were talking about like, you know the last week about just him growing up and then some of the You know, what's next and all of these things?

[01:00:35] Which I don't know if you included this Moe Favo sent us something so About his next project he's gonna be in a Stephen King adaptation He's been cast in so

[01:00:49] Wonderful. We'll get some more Christian Convery and that but it's funny we were talking about that and it's like Oh, it's good that they filmed these back-to-back And it is because I went on Instagram

[01:00:57] Earlier this week and saw a post from him where he was in Times Square in front of the big season 3 out now you know big sign and everything and he's like

[01:01:09] Legitimately like a foot and a half taller and his voice is already so much lower and I was like, oh my god Yeah, they got on it in the right time because he is he is growing up

[01:01:18] He's getting bigger and older already and it's you can tell and I was like, okay They did the right just in the right time. It seems like You know again, why can't more shows just frickin be on it already

[01:01:32] Yeah, I feel like it would lose some of that magic. It's so hard, you know Seeing the kids grow up, you know like that. So I'm really glad that they made that decision

[01:01:44] I'll have to go and check that out. I haven't seen this is just the image is gonna live in my head I'm just gonna see him as Gus and he's gonna stay that age for me always And

[01:01:55] That's such a mom thing. But you know, it's it's like what I when I look at my daughter She's a full-grown adult. But when I look at her, I still see my little three-year-old

[01:02:05] But yeah, that's all of my notes what notes did you have that you want to add just a few you pointed out a few of them But see the pack we got a little bit more of them They're pretty scary again. These like hybrid wolf dog kids

[01:02:21] The boys as they are just referred to They seem like yeah something you definitely want to don't want to get caught up with and here we talked about the you know Becky's quick-thinking got them off their trail for a little bit

[01:02:32] But you know, they're still right on I'm like they're gonna be this whole season probably Which One aspect of the boys the the pack that we saw, you know a little podcast to cut throwback

[01:02:46] In my notes, I just have fuckity fuck fuck fuck not Carby the rooster fuck Why do we always have to lose all the innocent animals And then yeah was saying some of the other stuff so apparently the father of

[01:03:05] The baby that's coming is Tex one of her man her ranch hands Which the forgot her name I didn't write it down but the older sister no No, Rose Rose Rosie Rosalina is the sister the one that's pregnant. I don't know her name right now

[01:03:22] But um, but Rosie is says to text like something about your wife. So like there's a you know relationship there Yeah, that was interesting but it seems like the way she talks to him and the way like, you know next time you're gonna talk to my mom instead

[01:03:34] Of me and he's like, well, I'm not gonna get him He was like, you're not gonna get an actual bullet if you give her bad news It seems like Tex here is not very well liked by the family

[01:03:43] He's just kind of the the ranch hand that knocked up the daughter and then they got in your shotgun married you know, that's the vibe I get from it and

[01:03:52] So it was just I thought it was interesting that they included that that he's not very well liked and he's kind of like the screw-up boyfriend and

[01:03:59] Because I'm wondering if since they introduced that that it's gonna come into play later in the season in some way that like I don't know Exactly how but I feel like showing that has to be important for some reason Yep could be

[01:04:12] Could be but but daddy. I love him situation But mommy, I love him and said yeah And there's like why did why did you want your daughter and subsequently then us the viewers to have to watch this lingering shot of a very wet fake cow birth

[01:04:31] Necessary I didn't need that. No good. Although what I did get from all like those scenes was just this this hope in my Heart that this little girl with the horns that was in the barn It's kind of like the hand there

[01:04:43] Get some come like gets to give some comeuppance for all the bullshit that she's like hearing and dealing up with putting up with Zhang in the back where she's just being treated. I mean very poorly and I cannot imagine

[01:04:55] Life of that poor little girl. Mm-hmm. Let her get some kind of justice and we get some vengeance at some point. Let's You know, we're gonna keep seeing her like maybe give her give her a win later on

[01:05:09] Just a little joke I was like probably to Jeps chagrin Becky's back behind the wheel again when they leave Not a fan of her driving And lastly music note there was really only one song it was in here and again when they're in the van

[01:05:29] Leaving Theo's driving away Was cello song by Nick Drake. It was a really really good song. I hadn't heard that one before but I liked it a Lot. Yeah good music in this episode One thing I meant to note last week and just totally forgot in my notes

[01:05:48] Remembered again because she was in this episode to Zang's daughter Rosie who's out on the hunt With her pack and trying to find Gus. Did you recognize her? from another franchise Or catch her name Which one?

[01:06:06] Zang's daughter Rosie the one that's on the trail of Gus looks familiar, but I didn't look it up I should to me too So I had to look it up and I'm like, okay

[01:06:16] To me too, so I had to look it up. It's Kelly Marie Tran who was rose from Star Wars stuff. Yeah. Yeah Her hair is longer. I think I think it was shorter in Star Wars. So it took me a minute

[01:06:29] I wasn't used to seeing her with the really long this just got this beautifully long hair And I was like golly she looks so darn familiar

[01:06:38] And I looked her up last week. So I was like her she just seems familiar. And so yeah, I was she was in Star Wars Rose Yeah, so that was that's super cool to see her in in something else All right, that was really great

[01:06:57] So that is going to lead us to our listener feedback always love hearing what our listeners have to say You take the first one for me All right

[01:07:10] See and then I pulled up the one that uh, Maureen sent us as well that all inch I'll include that in a little bit Yeah, please do I must have missed that But yeah, but first here from Facebook. I've got Maria saying thanks for the your strange indeed

[01:07:28] Shout out at the end of episode 1. I'm glad to be back listening to you for sweet tooth I'm going episode by episode with you I still need to watch episode 2 on a side note

[01:07:36] I'm listening to your coverage on the Great British baking show collection 11 loving the show and the podcast first time watching GBBO First you're welcome Maria. Thanks for listening And hey, enjoy Great British baking show. It's so freakin good and we always have a good time with that

[01:07:58] Next one is from Maureen Favo says forget that Gus was only one of the group to meet sing Woo-woo crap There's another good line How great bear is certified junior air captain on a simulator too bad about lack of landing skills

[01:08:16] Yeah, neither one of us mentioned that I'm like, how did she learn that? Right. Was there a simulator in like the arcade? Army had or something maybe yeah

[01:08:26] That would be quite a simulator to like be real enough that she's got confidence to be like, yeah, I can fly that plane She says how high do you think Becky's IQ plus her emotional intelligence is also very high. Yeah, I couldn't guess that but

[01:08:43] Obviously, she's very smart and very resourceful How great is Theo he's pretty great The third try try third trimester. Sorry info is new it changes urgency of saying agenda Yeah, I'm speculating on the same thing. I think it is new How far Jep and bear relationship has come?

[01:09:04] Don't think more Theo like in comic wish more But with better ending for Theo poor coup Kirby the rooster How old do you think is Caribou man get a feeling the story is moving very fast this season. I

[01:09:20] Agree I don't know I if we put the link to Caribou man having any sort of link to I've already forgot his name that first first mates wife pregnant wife. It was think it was Burke It's in my notes for last. Thank you. Yeah, I think

[01:09:38] Yeah, I mean I'm I'm still under the theory that Because the the crew all had the sick there that that's where the hybrids come from that Yeah, that the Caribou man whoever he is

[01:09:49] Yeah is is the baby that his wife was was pregnant with and in the first episode. I'm making that assumption. So Yeah 100 hundred plus years or something wasn't that I thought I heard Dr. Singh say when he was talking to the group in the beginning of the episode

[01:10:07] so That's my working theory. I support that. Mm-hmm. Do you want to? Share the other that Marine sent us Yeah, so she she sent in another little comment from a deadline a little article

[01:10:22] Because she's asking oh, you know FYI if you want to know what Christian Convery's up next Yeah up to next since we were talking about that. Mm-hmm. So exclusive following a multibuyer I'm just reading the article from deadline following multibuyer tug-of-war the horror movie the monkey

[01:10:36] Which is an adaptation of a Stephen King short story is heading in the on for domestic here at Cannes Market We'll be starring Theo James from the White Lotus Tatiana Maslany Elijah Wood Christian Convery Colin O'Brien Rowan Campbell and Sarah Levy Osgood Perkins is

[01:10:55] Directing and adapting the King story Wow, so quite an interesting cast. So yeah, it sounds like yeah, we'll see Christian back but then yeah with Theo James Tatiana Maslany Elijah Wood Rowan Campbell Sarah Levy, that's a great cast. Great cast. Yeah, I

[01:11:15] Won't recognize him for nothing. I'm going to be expecting our sweet little, you know, baby face guests And he's going to be a full young man, right? I'm gonna be like who's this young man. I don't know you

[01:11:30] Well, that's great news good for him glad to see him in some more projects Thanks for sharing that. Sorry. I must have missed out somewhere in my haste to get the In my haste to get the feedback

[01:11:45] I think she sent it literally like the night that we recorded last week and like you dropped the I don't and it was like right on there. So it's like last week that cusp. That's

[01:11:56] Sometimes don't get two things or yeah, sorry about that. But thank you for sharing. I'm glad you caught a pig. Yeah All right, you want to get our next email? All right. Yeah, so we have an email from Daphne

[01:12:10] Always coming through on that. She says hi Rima and Peck I really enjoyed this episode and agree wholeheartedly that shooting the seasons back-to-back really kept things in sync with regard to the kids

[01:12:21] I'm excited that we got more Sienna and Nuka. They are smart and clever and saving the world in their own way Theo and Kirby the rooster were adorable. Although I'm now concerned that Kirby is now food. I

[01:12:32] Love that Wendy and Gus helped Theo embrace who he is. Everyone should be able to be themselves Caribou man, is he friend or foe? I'm thinking and hoping he's a friend since he saved birdie looking forward to your thoughts Daphne I'm also hoping

[01:12:47] You know friend since he saved her and you know took care of the bad guy for her. Yeah, but Also having been I'm guessing very isolated and alone Maybe a little not still friend but like cautiously so

[01:13:07] That's great, thanks so much Daphne always so loyal with the emails I think she just got that in in the nick of time All right, we did get a couple of voicemails and there was a voicemail we got

[01:13:24] I think it was either the night we recorded or the next day I didn't see the exact date, but I know we had already dropped said one So we'll go ahead and include that here from our friend Steve Brown who was able to leave a voicemail

[01:13:40] For episode one, and he's also got one for episode two. So we'll listen to Episode one first his feedback for that Hello strange indeed. This is Steve and this is for sweet tooth season 3 episode 1 the beginning of the end

[01:13:58] I'm glad they gave a recap because it has been a little bit a few months I think or maybe longer since I rewatched season 1 & 2. Oh the The illness that's what's in the cave, sir The shaking illness that's gonna end humanity

[01:14:14] This is so much fun. These kids in this Humvee and Jeffords appears to get carsick Great. They're learning puns now the most appealing place And they found the bingo bandits living in Sino

[01:14:27] Okay ominous dude, it feels like this season might be a little bit darker than what we've seen I know the the seasons have been progressively getting darker, but that guy is saying death comes for all of us

[01:14:37] Ooh, haha roulette. What is sweet you know about roulette? Okay Bridget. Thanks for the hat the scarf There's gotta be something special with that right? Are they gonna go to the coast now instead of trying to go over the mountains?

[01:14:48] Oh wait, we're still with the bingo bandits. Okay, who is this now that's been introduced? That's gonna follow them. Hey, maybe I miss her sister. Where's nags wreath? Would it be maybe a river that's gonna go up to Canada?

[01:14:59] Is there a river that goes up to Canada from Colorado and we're back to birdie and she isn't some sort of community Okay, and the kid just played a Grateful Dead song just for birdie

[01:15:08] Oh, so is birdie gonna leave to go try to find Gus or don't try to find this church I don't get it. How long ago was the boat the ship that had the stick on it?

[01:15:18] Okay, birdie just gave the book to the little girl. So that means she's going to find Gus Okay, Oh ominous cowboy knowing birdie Snowmobiles chases are always so cool to watch. Oh, he's Out cold, but they found him at least it Jepperd. I mean

[01:15:35] All right. They still got the map. So I'm so emotional with this Oh just sweet tooth that cry out to Jepperd. Oh, we have to go on Oh, who is this wolf pack with the lights on their head? Wow

[01:15:48] We're gonna have a number of antagonists in this one, aren't we? Wow It looks like we have a number of antagonists here to go against Gus and crew and birdie Dr. Singh is alive and on the episode, too. I

[01:16:01] Know I got emotional too in that moment with you Steve Thanks, that was great as usual Let's see what Steve thought about episode two Hello strange indeed, this is Steve and this is for a sweet tooth season 3 episode 2. Thank God

[01:16:22] I'm a country boy. Okay, so we introduced the new so new characters this couple pregnant woman The guy is flying and now we're back to dr. Singh is Gus with Gus Okay, so he saw the cave, right? We've seen the dreams

[01:16:36] But we still don't know how they're why they have these shared dreams right Gus and dr. Singh and we're back to this this community in Alaska that birdie was at so we see kind of how it runs I guess Sian is kind of in charge and

[01:16:49] She lets Nuka decide judgment on disputes Really? That's all it took to get the the wolves off there or the dogs off their door She just hangs a bag with their scent on the horse and then sends a horse way, but who was riding the horse? Ooh

[01:17:05] The caribou man. Is that the possibly the first hybrid? So dr. Singh knows something about birthing babies I hope Okay. So now we see at least one person pursuing birdie is dead, but who killed him? I don't remember the crazy woman's name the warlord who

[01:17:22] She just pulled a cow out of a cow. I didn't know that's how I don't understand But she does think of the hybrids as mistakes though The top secret cave of amazingness and they've never met a human kid before

[01:17:36] I guess this kid is barely old enough to have been born not being a hybrid, right? I like that Kirby the rooster likes you. So maybe you're okay. Okay kid

[01:17:44] I don't think your science is very correct because you're talking to do hybrids who obviously aren't 70% animal mean in their brains I mean, okay Gus and Wendy are talking to this kid Theo and I'm starting to suspect as they are that he may be a hybrid and his

[01:17:58] Parents somehow clipped his wings or something. Maybe yeah He's got wings he's a hybrid and his brother's gonna be a hybrid too No, no, no, no, they're not gonna cut this kid this baby that no Okay, so the mom is talking sense now. Oh

[01:18:15] And Theo saves the day good for him. All right, and they're on the road again. Oh Theo On to next week. Okay post script I guess they did bring trouble to the door because the dog boys are About to attack this rooster or he brought

[01:18:32] The trouble to his house himself. Oh, of course we in with birdie and the caribou man Oh wait, you want to go to the next one? No, no Same struggle I feel that at the end. I'm like I could just let it play I could Thanks

[01:18:55] Steve so much for sharing the journey Yeah, I had to giggle because you get caught up especially like when an episode ends at like an emotional note And so you're just like kind of stuck

[01:19:09] Processing what you just saw or if you're a little emotional and then you better act fast and find that remote because yeah It's gonna it's gonna move on To the next one

[01:19:21] That was so great. Thank you everyone that took the time to write in leave a voicemail send an email I know I'm the worst about it So I'm always really grateful about like I just never I always intend to send feedback to my favorite podcasts and I

[01:19:38] Don't so I'm super grateful for for all y'all Um next week we will be covering season 3 episode 3 titled the pack No description not looking ahead, but if I have to guess it's Probably maybe we're gonna get introduced officially to the pack

[01:20:02] Tracking Gus and our group. Yeah down. It's some more more of them Possibly a little scary Yeah, I don't know. I don't know they they seem to be pretty scary because we've just and maybe it's because we've only Seen them in the dark

[01:20:19] They are you know seem to be pretty mysterious So probably part of that mystery and only sing them in dark they're gonna just walk up on Gus and them snarling and

[01:20:29] drooling and then one of them's gonna stand up be like now if you don't mind kind sir come with us and we'll have a little conversation Maybe It's totally fine Completely civilized. Yes, not, you know the vicious

[01:20:47] Beasts that they've been made out to be I'm so sorry. We have to take you back to our master saying but first a spot of tea All right, well definitely check that out and then if you want to write to us leave us a message

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[01:21:20] And while you're there be sure to check out our other shows. I mentioned, you know, our good friends Wendy Renny and Veronica have Picked up on a house of the dragons season 2 They are doing a fantastic job

[01:21:37] Be sure to go out and show them some love season 2, you know, we're only one episode in so far But yeah, you know really fantastic TV, you know, they're doing pretty darn good job So be sure to check them out and give them some love and

[01:21:52] Pig I didn't check in with you last week. What the heck are you Daphne? We are we're on a little mid break see a little midseason break I mean right now we'll be back early July like right like I think even like the

[01:22:10] First or something like that or maybe like very end of June. So just a few just a couple more weeks And then we'll be back with a new season. So we've got some fun stuff going on there

[01:22:21] But yeah, we've been doing a lot since the last time I plugged it on this podcast. So you haven't stopped Yeah, we've got a full, you know last season of all kinds of great stuff that we we covered a lot of fun movies

[01:22:32] So definitely go check it out a lot of horror movies and monster movies disaster stuff Can't think exactly all the stuff that we've been on but yeah, it's been fun I know we did I'll say just pull out of my head

[01:22:46] I think we did an episode we covered get out Jordan Peele's get out with Rinaldi and that was a really fun one a really good conversation that we had there nice in the last season

[01:22:54] So yeah, go check out everything we've been good. We've been doing over there again podcast A good comm you can find the links to run for your lives and stuff as well Yep, I think we've got it our show notes to at the links there

[01:23:06] So and yeah, I mean just if you go to podcast calm You'll literally just have all the shows listed there for you and you know, whatever you're interested in

[01:23:15] And it's searchable so if you're not sure who or what podcast covered it you can just type in the search bar and It'll it'll bring up results. Yeah, someone has probably covered it somewhere

[01:23:31] A lot of great stuff said house the dragon dragon cast I'm so excited to hear that whenever they drop that episode be able to listen to that because yeah that first episode was

[01:23:41] Was a doozy, but it was a great one. I knew that that's exactly what that show supposed to be So yeah, I really enjoyed it. Yep. Yep. Lots of conversation happening around that first episode That is for sure So if you're in need of some, you know

[01:23:54] I got to hear some some thoughts and conversation about it, then you should definitely check them out. Yes. We'll get your therapy there Yeah, so definitely again podcast calm go check out all of those shows this show run for your lives dragon cast find what you like

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[01:24:32] Well, alright that is our show for this week, thanks everyone for listening until next time I'm Rima and I'm paid and Barbie Allen is strange indeed