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[00:00:00] There were moments where I was like, oh my god, Blazer was a bad choice.
[00:00:11] But during the cold months I was like, haha, I would.
[00:00:42] The Walking Dead.
[00:00:47] Hey, Zed heads welcome to the podcast. I'm Jason and I'm Lucy.
[00:00:51] This is The Walking Dead Cast Episode 399. Today's special episode we I decided you know I've been talking about doing interviews again and I'm like who should we call and I figure as a present to Lucy will call Dan Vogler.
[00:01:05] Yay.
[00:01:07] We are registered.
[00:01:09] So we're on zoom. Lucy has her wedding.
[00:01:14] I'm just kidding that we just talked to him so you're going to hear it but how did you think it went?
[00:01:19] Oh, it was lovely. He's a really nice guy and we just wish we had longer.
[00:01:24] He's he's pretty busy. I think he's stuck in the UK at the moment.
[00:01:27] So yeah, really fun to chat and know so much about comic books and comic book culture.
[00:01:34] I feel like we didn't spend that much time on The Walking Dead.
[00:01:37] We kind of spoke more about Dan's own work which is fascinating. Really, really interesting.
[00:01:42] Yeah, we talked some about you'll hear about his character and different things that we've been talking about on the podcast.
[00:01:48] But we also got into a lot of this comic book work in his podcasting and you just get a fuller picture of what kind of a guy Dan is.
[00:01:54] So with that said, enjoy.
[00:01:57] Yeah.
[00:01:59] He's a film stage and TV actor, a director, a comedian, a podcaster, a writer plays in comic books, father husband, so many things.
[00:02:11] And he plays one of our favorite characters in The Walking Dead.
[00:02:14] Luke, welcome to our podcast Dan Vogler.
[00:02:18] Whoa.
[00:02:20] And now that I fucking press the record button, I will once again ask my first question, which is that I love that Luke is a Renaissance man.
[00:02:29] And I just love that he's such an original character within all these so many characters on the show that he's he's special.
[00:02:36] He's he loves art.
[00:02:38] He's vulnerable.
[00:02:39] He's sensitive, but he's also very capable, which I like a lot.
[00:02:43] And so I just went back and watch the scene where he was talking to Michonne and Sadiq about the importance of the role of art in the development of civilization and even positioning it as like, like these days people kind of ride off entertainment and art as unnecessary.
[00:02:58] But according to what Luke was saying, it's almost like it was an advantage and part of the reason why humanity has become the dominant species on the planet.
[00:03:08] I wonder how much of that you share with him and his perspective.
[00:03:12] Yeah, I have happened to agree.
[00:03:16] I feel like his.
[00:03:20] I think that's how he stayed sane.
[00:03:24] You know, he was able to hold on to this hope that if he collected enough instruments, like a risk to his life and save them enough instruments like they were people.
[00:03:38] That he would eventually I mean maybe it seemed insane to other people, but to him, eventually one day he would be able to get back to how things work.
[00:03:49] And teach a teach a music class again, you know, and like better to have a guitar and not need one than to need a guitar and not have one.
[00:04:03] Yeah, I think that you know someone said recently, I don't know if it was Stephen King or something, but somebody said recently that you know you try not going in insane during this quarantine without music, without entertainment, without movies.
[00:04:25] It was Stephen King. Yeah, he tweeted that out.
[00:04:28] I think it's so true man. This music helps us make sense of all of this.
[00:04:35] It helps us communicate almost telepathically, but it's like to people's hearts.
[00:04:43] It kind of binds us together right on an emotional level.
[00:04:49] Absolutely. And yeah, there's something I've always felt and he kind of talks about in that monologue where he talks about the Neanderthals.
[00:04:57] And we love them to that, you know, but the idea of what came first, it was our intelligence grew when we found fire.
[00:05:12] And what did we do? Did we use it to destroy? No, we sat around it and we looked at it.
[00:05:19] And he said, wow, that's awesome. What do you think?
[00:05:23] And then that's it. And what does that look like to you?
[00:05:29] Oh, look, it looks like a dancing star and stories happen. That's how songs were created.
[00:05:37] So yeah, I feel like music is one of the elements, art.
[00:05:44] This character, because you are, I mean, just kind of doing a little research to talk to you today.
[00:05:50] I'm like, holy shit man, he's done everything and it's all within the arts.
[00:05:54] And I wonder, I've never heard the story of how you got to play Luke.
[00:05:59] Were they creating this role just for you and your personality?
[00:06:04] Oh, wow. I kind of made Luke, well, you know, they gave me that incredible dialogue.
[00:06:13] So it's easy to mine a character out of that.
[00:06:16] But I definitely, like my stamps were, I turned up the metrosexual dial.
[00:06:25] The idea that he, the other thing that he holds on to, not only the music is his teacher's blazer, you know, with the professors patches on his elbows.
[00:06:41] Same reason, same reason. This is a tendency. We're going to be civilized while we beat the crap out of zombie.
[00:06:53] The listeners were asking about that. Maria Lawson.
[00:06:56] How many times has he begged Wardrobe to let him lose the blazer?
[00:06:59] Like they wanted to know if it's too hot and Atlanta for that and stuff.
[00:07:04] There were moments where I was like, oh my God, blazer was a bad choice.
[00:07:11] The cold months I was like, ha ha, I worry.
[00:07:16] That was your choice?
[00:07:19] I love the blazer. Yeah, I wanted to have the patches.
[00:07:23] There was also, well, I'll get back to the other question how I got the part.
[00:07:28] I mean that's an easy one, which is I was doing Fantastic Beasts and I said to my representative, my reps, I was like,
[00:07:37] yeah, if I have a little time in between, I want to do something dark.
[00:07:41] I wanted to do something different.
[00:07:43] So they reached out to The Walking Dead and they came back with Luke.
[00:07:48] And I said, and I'm a comic book fan. I love The Walking Dead and Luke is in The Comic Book.
[00:07:54] So I was like, yes, absolutely, I will play Luke.
[00:07:58] So then it was kind of making it my own.
[00:08:02] And so one of the aspects was the blazer and I thought because the way it was presented to me was, you know, you'll come on for one season and, you know, and in out, you know, be great.
[00:08:16] And because in The Comic Books, Luke is supposedly one of the heads on the pike.
[00:08:22] Yep. We're about three years so we know.
[00:08:28] All the way up until like a month before when they started casting people's heads, you know, making plaster heads.
[00:08:37] All the way up until then I was like, yeah, I'm on the head on the pike.
[00:08:41] And so a lot of my acting and there were subtle little hints to that in the first season where that blazer, if I, if whenever,
[00:08:56] if you watch the first season, whenever I felt like I was in real danger, I'd flip up the collar and underneath was this was red.
[00:09:05] And see my neck, which if I mind the foreshadowing of I'm going to get habitated.
[00:09:12] Right.
[00:09:13] And then I had another, the shirts I always had, I always asked this weird, I always wore these kind of shirts with the buttons in the front.
[00:09:20] And as season nine went on, they gave me this white shirt with the red buttons going down.
[00:09:27] I was like, oh, that's a love coming back from my dad.
[00:09:31] But obviously it didn't work out like that.
[00:09:36] Sometimes we feel a little bit like the show can fuck with us.
[00:09:39] And one of the ways it does that is very much with your character giving us signposts towards Luke maybe not making it.
[00:09:47] And there was a particular send off from Hilltop, I think heading off to Oceanside that was just scored with this amazing orchestral music and you were waving and we were just like, oh, he's dead.
[00:10:00] Good.
[00:10:01] He's gone.
[00:10:03] But you know, not yet.
[00:10:06] Are you aware of that like teasing with us like that?
[00:10:09] Or did that not occur to you?
[00:10:12] Oh, absolutely.
[00:10:14] Absolutely.
[00:10:15] And like, you know, if you kind of lean into that sometimes, especially with the whole idea that like anybody whisper.
[00:10:27] Yeah.
[00:10:28] So I like playing with the subtle foreshadow.
[00:10:33] Obviously.
[00:10:36] The hints and the costume and stuff like that.
[00:10:39] And then I had Jules too.
[00:10:41] I think you were hinting at that.
[00:10:43] We thought, I thought she was going to be a whisperer.
[00:10:46] That was kind of the point, right?
[00:10:47] A secret whisper.
[00:10:49] Yeah, Jules killed me at some point and everyone's program, you know, from watching the show over the years like, I think it's funny.
[00:10:59] And obviously at this point, the writers have figured out the formula where they can like play into that or they could tease it or, you know, pull away from it.
[00:11:07] It's hard to be unpredictable.
[00:11:09] Kirkman so good at that in the comic, like he's masterful at it.
[00:11:14] Oh, well.
[00:11:16] Yeah.
[00:11:17] I mean, I was going to ask you about the end.
[00:11:19] Did you know that was going to be the final issue or were you surprised?
[00:11:23] Well, no, I heard it was a final issue.
[00:11:27] And then I read it.
[00:11:28] But I was just in shock.
[00:11:32] How would happen?
[00:11:34] Oh, it was like Captain America just took some random shrapnel to the belly.
[00:11:40] Who got him?
[00:11:44] That guy.
[00:11:46] It's like, I'm not expecting.
[00:11:51] I mean, it was very Shakespearean, I thought, you know.
[00:11:55] It was very real.
[00:11:56] What Kirkman does is, I mean, I haven't read another comic book like it where you're reading it like it's like it's a play or you're reading it like it's got these long dialogue scenes.
[00:12:12] And he defied a lot of the rules.
[00:12:16] Like long, long suspenseful dialogue scenes.
[00:12:22] The action is kind of dispersed and like a film like builds, you know, so sometimes you'll have no action and you know, but you're still
[00:12:30] No zombies for long periods sometimes.
[00:12:33] So many characters.
[00:12:35] All relationships you just, wow, how does he
[00:12:39] He's a natural because he was like only 28 or something when he started maybe even younger.
[00:12:44] He knew it was going to be a hit.
[00:12:47] It was just like, I just think he just set out and knew the whole the director.
[00:12:53] I think it's a, I like the whole story where he was just like, yeah, yeah, there's
[00:12:59] There's going to be aliens at the end.
[00:13:02] Yeah.
[00:13:05] Yeah.
[00:13:08] Just like, where's the alien?
[00:13:11] Don't worry.
[00:13:13] Dan, you you write comics. It's a big part of the art that you make and it's been really enjoyable to kind of go in and look at the
[00:13:21] kind of comic and graphic novel work that you do.
[00:13:24] Yeah.
[00:13:25] So bad Jason certain some badass heavy metal comics, which I think is a good description.
[00:13:31] How did this come about? How did you get into to comic writing and what draws you to it?
[00:13:37] Tell us a little bit more because this is really obviously for us.
[00:13:40] This is fascinating because comics and zombies and what we're all about.
[00:13:45] Oh, okay.
[00:13:46] Yeah, I love comic books.
[00:13:49] I grew up reading comic books and heavy metal magazine was the first comic book I ever picked up.
[00:13:56] It was, I was, I was like 10.
[00:13:59] I was way too young and it was sitting on my brother's comic book shelf and it was sticking out because it was oversized.
[00:14:07] So I was like, what's that?
[00:14:09] You know, and then I was just hooked and I saw heavy metal the movie million times on HBO growing up and I was just
[00:14:20] made a huge impression and I thought if I make a comic book, it would be an homage to heavy metal and heavy metal the movie with
[00:14:30] the Loch Nahr as the narrator weaving in and out of all the different anthology stories.
[00:14:38] And I was like, yeah, I like that idea how it's like they're separate stories, but they're connected somehow.
[00:14:45] And so that was my first comic book, which was Moon Lake.
[00:14:49] And that's my homage to heavy metal and Twilight Zone and the crypt.
[00:14:55] We have zombies too, but this is like the dial is turned up on the comedy.
[00:15:03] So it's on the weirder side of the spectrum.
[00:15:08] Yeah.
[00:15:09] And we have aliens, you know, and we have we have Sasquatch and, you know, and we have, you know, psychotic cheerleaders.
[00:15:19] And we have this cave girl sorceress and her like sidekick is this is Z-Rex, which is this zombie zombie.
[00:15:35] Those are my zombies. My zombies are, you know, zombie fight dinosaurs.
[00:15:40] You know, and I like to, you know, I like to shake it up a little.
[00:15:46] I don't want to like if I have a we don't just do werewolves, we do wear everything else, you know, like, you know,
[00:15:53] I saw some panels of were bears that were pretty interesting.
[00:15:58] The first one we introduce and then he we do a whole like island of Dr. Maro's hybrid creatures and were monkeys and where I was looking at this new
[00:16:15] and Brooklyn Gladiator Simon Beasley, amazing lobo of Lobo fame.
[00:16:22] Oh man, I used to read lobo and specifically Beasley, you know, did covers for heavy metal.
[00:16:30] So I've been watching him for my whole life or reading his material my whole life.
[00:16:35] And so when I started writing this dystopian, you know, sci-fi cautionary tale, which is Brooklyn Gladiator,
[00:16:46] which is also an homage to heavy metal and, you know, Judge Dredd and 2000 AD, you know, all those.
[00:16:53] I heard you say Akira.
[00:16:55] Akira, absolutely. Because what's happening in the book is that the sun is changing and the powers that be are trying to block out
[00:17:05] the rays of the sun, however they can because it's evolving people.
[00:17:10] It's making people more psychic and that's what happens in Akira.
[00:17:16] You have all these psychics popping up in these waves and similar thing is happening in Brooklyn Gladiator.
[00:17:22] And so even even the, you know, the title font that I chose was an homage to heavy metal for Brooklyn Gladiator.
[00:17:32] And very excited about that.
[00:17:35] What was it like to see the pages start coming in from Simon Beasley, this guy that you followed as a kid?
[00:17:41] Incredible.
[00:17:43] That's wild.
[00:17:45] I bet.
[00:17:46] It's yeah, because especially if it's someone that you grew up reading and then they're like a freaking genius, you know.
[00:18:00] You hand them your work and you just know that they're going to elevate it to the next level and put their amazing stamp on it.
[00:18:11] And then when you get back, there's nothing like it to have that book in your hand and go, oh my God.
[00:18:17] I'm, I'm whole.
[00:18:20] I just feel like a kid.
[00:18:22] I feel like that was holding that little comic as a kid, you know, just like, wow, this is like my favorite.
[00:18:28] Wow, this is like my favorite artist.
[00:18:30] And oh my God.
[00:18:32] I used to work at a publishing company in the education department and I wrote some just little spelling aid books, little stories with spelling words.
[00:18:43] And then one of the designers in the department drew out the story and I just felt like I didn't deserve to have that much effort put into my stuff or something.
[00:18:52] I had like, oh my God.
[00:18:54] So cool.
[00:18:56] And it's not, it's not just basically either you've managed to get was it cover art from Glenn Fabry?
[00:19:00] You've spoken about preacher in interviews before as well.
[00:19:03] Awesome.
[00:19:04] And that's awesome.
[00:19:05] Glenn Fabry.
[00:19:07] That was insane.
[00:19:09] I've seen helpful to have, you know, some celebrity and certain things like that, you know, where you can reach out and they'll say, yeah, yeah, why not?
[00:19:22] I'll do a cover for you.
[00:19:24] Yeah, I've got a Glenn Fabry cover for it was for volume zero, Brooklyn Gladiator.
[00:19:29] And I can't believe they got a Glenn Fabry cover.
[00:19:33] I can't believe that I'm working with these people.
[00:19:36] And then for fish kill, I got Ben Templestness, who is another guy who fish kills the prequel of Brooklyn Gladiator takes right now.
[00:19:48] And I can't believe I got to work with Ben.
[00:19:53] I think that we got four completed issues from Ben Templesmith.
[00:19:59] It's just like, it's the miracle.
[00:20:03] And I hope that he continues to write to draw the series.
[00:20:08] We'll see.
[00:20:09] I'm meeting a lot of great artists obviously now being with heavy metal.
[00:20:13] I have a, you know, just years and years and years of content for this stuff.
[00:20:17] I just want to put as long as people let me as long as I have some money in my pocket.
[00:20:25] I really want to keep making these.
[00:20:27] I got stories for for years to come with all of these titles.
[00:20:30] Well, we got a preview of fish kills.
[00:20:33] So are we right in thinking fish kills being published this year?
[00:20:36] Or has it just come out?
[00:20:38] This kill comes out in August.
[00:20:41] That's what it is.
[00:20:42] Fish kills out in August.
[00:20:44] Quite different in field to Brooklyn Gladiator.
[00:20:46] We got the first few panels and very, I got a full metal jacket vibe from it.
[00:20:52] Kind of.
[00:20:53] Yeah.
[00:20:58] It's intrigued.
[00:21:00] I'm really intrigued to know more about how that's going to pan out.
[00:21:03] You mentioned four, four issues for volumes.
[00:21:07] Issues of volume one.
[00:21:10] Fish kill.
[00:21:12] And then we're in the middle of writing the next volume now and hopefully that'll come out next year and then we'll just keep on putting them out.
[00:21:20] But it's strange because it's very prophetic.
[00:21:25] Overlapping with the headlines of today.
[00:21:29] That really struck me within the first two pages there was talk about authority police brutality.
[00:21:35] It was uncanny that that was just this moment.
[00:21:38] So yeah, it's wild.
[00:21:43] The main hero art fish kill.
[00:21:47] He is sent down this conspiracy theory rabbit hole that's very familiar to what's happening with us right now.
[00:21:57] He goes into the police academy and he basically graduates on the day that 9 11 happens.
[00:22:07] And then he's just like, okay, I'm going to go to Afghanistan and win this war myself, you know, and he has this heart of gold, you know, and this barometer, you know, this ineffable barometer of justice, you know, and
[00:22:22] what he gets to the war and he realizes, wait a minute, this war is not what we're being told it is and he gets wrapped up in remote viewing programs, MK ultra, my stuff and becomes a weapon.
[00:22:42] You know, like a one man army essentially.
[00:22:45] But he won't hurt children.
[00:22:49] He just they send them into a village. They say, get everybody and he just can't.
[00:22:56] So that becomes a liability.
[00:22:59] And he is brain is wiped and he's sent back to America and he becomes a good detective and his antlers are watching him, you know, to make sure he's staying.
[00:23:11] But he's a good detective and his heart of gold gets him in trouble because he's sniffing down the wrong alleyways, trying to find children who are being trafficked.
[00:23:24] And what were your kind of inspirations for the sort of detective theme?
[00:23:28] The inspiration for this is a dynamic town.
[00:23:33] Yeah, the inspiration for this is was Brooklyn gladiator. I was I was writing that year and I said, Holy shit, we're living the sci fi dystopia right now.
[00:23:45] Yeah.
[00:23:47] I like to write the seeds that are sewn for Brooklyn gladiator where Brooklyn gladiator is talks about the technocracy that is coming.
[00:24:00] This talks about the one man against the secret society deep state that sets him up makes him a patsy.
[00:24:14] He is one man against trying to defeat the people who are setting up the technocracy.
[00:24:23] Yeah, I've wanted I want to mention the podcast and like your description.
[00:24:30] Dan Fogler's 40 experience podcast says for people who smoke pot and love movies join the smoke circle with actor comedian Dan Fogler as he gets high with celebrity guests and discusses the latest films he's seen in 40 warning
[00:24:43] Hello spoilers.
[00:24:48] We've been tweaking that that blurb for a while.
[00:24:52] At the beginning I was smoking with my I don't smoke with all of my guests.
[00:24:59] You know, because it relaxes me and puts me in frame of mind of chatting.
[00:25:07] And we used to you know when we were it's really cool you know Joe I got the hint from Joe Rogan he would sit there and you know they would smoke and and it relaxed while they were talking you know so yeah like that.
[00:25:23] But you know not everybody smokes with me.
[00:25:26] We've changed that blurb a couple times and that one that one keeps on coming back it's just like it's fun it's fun but I was listening to Greg Nick Tara is so great and he's like such an amazing guy with all these experiences and been involved in such on the coolest things
[00:25:41] It's just really fun to hear you talk because you can tell you're both super fans and you admire each other and everything.
[00:25:47] Yeah man.
[00:25:50] I love doing the podcast you guys probably feel the same way because you get to talk to people who you know like they're a person you know you like yeah.
[00:26:03] It's it's a little bit of you know fun banter or whatever but that was the most I ever talked to Greg like you know actually sit down and he couldn't go anywhere for you know.
[00:26:15] We've had him on here too he's great.
[00:26:18] At the pick his brain and and and it was insane and he and I both have the same movie that scared the crap out of us and inspired us to love horror movies and that's Jaws.
[00:26:31] And that was the first movie I ever saw at six years old.
[00:26:36] It kind of messed me up.
[00:26:39] It's famously our family Christmas movie we all watch Jaws because it's a family favorite.
[00:26:45] That's how we get festive by being scared.
[00:26:51] I can't go into murky water to this day without a sharp lock in my hand like I can't because of the music.
[00:27:02] And then he has he has the Jaws several of them but like the actual Jaws model in his studio just you know it's mounted on the wall.
[00:27:11] It was so crazy to see that so cool incredible and then to see like to hear that he's been involved in basically every single special effect that you ever loved growing up.
[00:27:23] Yeah and like Evil Dead movies and Day of the Dead and all this.
[00:27:30] It's not just like you know zombie John everything like he like breaking bad.
[00:27:38] Oh fiction yeah.
[00:27:41] Oh yeah like insane man his visceral art you know moved me you know and sometimes that blood splatter is like the thing that you remember for the whole movie for the rest of your life.
[00:27:57] I mean you're so the pie cat yeah you love talking to the people like real people that you admire and you're doing these comics and you're an actor.
[00:28:06] It just seems like you're hungry for experience or what's going on why are you so active.
[00:28:14] I guess I'm just curious.
[00:28:16] I research a lot like I'm all trying to get to the bottom of what's really going on and that's what you know the Moon Lake is about endless rabbit holes and.
[00:28:31] It kills about a man seeking the truth trying to and John Miller and Brooklyn gladiators a guy who is rejecting all of the redacted information and and seeking the truth like he's like I think I have a thing with just.
[00:28:48] Trying to figure out you know how this all works while we're here and.
[00:28:55] Make me do that experientially like yeah.
[00:28:59] Yeah involved in good.
[00:29:02] It's some it's funny I came thinking.
[00:29:06] Here's Dan who does fantastic beasts and the walk dead and also these comics but listening to you talk about all of them I'm starting to see the threads between the two like.
[00:29:15] The fantastic be cinnamon Lake combined with kind of the magical world that you're involved in with the films and your passion for horror and zombies is really interesting to get this kind of full picture.
[00:29:26] I mean my main question is is what it's not really a question so much as a statement for you are you a nerd Dan would you say.
[00:29:35] Yeah, yeah good.
[00:29:39] I.
[00:29:44] Yeah, I was I was I was drawing you know Rafael.
[00:29:51] From the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on my notebook now I'm aging myself but I was going on my notebook before people even knew who to help the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were you know.
[00:30:03] Then when they suddenly like the next year or a year later when suddenly it was like you know cartoon.
[00:30:10] Yeah I was like I I found.
[00:30:15] It's not the real Ninja Turtles.
[00:30:18] So I do want to let people know if they want to check out these comics how do they get them.
[00:30:23] The heavy metal magazine shop online has all the books July 8 which is the very soon tomorrow broken gladiator and then August 8 fish kill and Moon Lake is September just in time for Halloween ish.
[00:30:46] Yeah and you can go to my my new web page which is fogler's fiction www dot fogler's fiction.com where you can it's like one stop shopping for all of my comic book content and posters and stuff like that you can go there.
[00:31:03] You can get a link to the Twitter and the.
[00:31:07] Amazing.
[00:31:09] So we do that one last thing Lucy.
[00:31:12] I think we should.
[00:31:14] It's traditional on the walking day actually I've never done this before this is my first time asking and we usually ask our guests to give us a zombie sound so would you be willing to give us a zombie sound.
[00:31:25] Yeah I would love.
[00:31:28] Okay so just just giving a zombie sound.
[00:31:30] Yeah.
[00:31:31] Okay I'm going to cover this up so you just hear the sound.
[00:31:34] Okay.
[00:31:35] Okay.
[00:31:44] That free sounds just like great Nick it's arrow.
[00:31:53] Hey I want to know that I've chosen a name for my weapon and it's called I mean hopefully they'll let me choose it but my name is called the ricken vodka.
[00:32:09] It's named after Pete Townsend's guitar.
[00:32:14] Just slip that in one day just say that you know.
[00:32:23] Awesome well thanks a lot Dan it was great talking to you.
[00:32:27] Thank you so much it was great to meet you.
[00:32:29] Love your work we're loving watching I mean if let me just say if Luke dies in this finale that we haven't seen yet I want to thank you for being a part of the walking dead either way.
[00:32:39] Just in case so much we hope not.
[00:32:41] We hope not but you know thank you.
[00:32:45] Thank you.
[00:32:46] Love your face.
[00:32:49] Thanks man.
[00:32:50] Thanks Dan.





