12. "The Exorcism of Carrie Jackson" (S2E3)

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[00:00:01] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast. I'm Greg and I'm Penny and this is The Extraordinary

[00:00:25] Cast, the podcast dedicated to the Hulu and Disney Plus series Extraordinary created by

[00:00:30] Emma Moran.

[00:00:32] This episode we're covering season two, episode three, The Exorcism of Carrie Jackson,

[00:00:38] written by Emma Moran and directed by Toby McDonald.

[00:00:42] All right. So we have a Halloween episode themed episode, which we haven't had before,

[00:00:48] which is not something that they've done so far. They haven't like haven't had like holiday

[00:00:53] style episodes before.

[00:00:55] Yeah.

[00:00:56] And so like it's not I mean, it's definitely something worth trying. And so like, I mean,

[00:01:08] you know, it's just yeah.

[00:01:10] I didn't love it. I didn't love it. And I'm so sad that I didn't love it because I loved

[00:01:15] this show so much in season one and episode one of season two was really promising. And

[00:01:22] I just I feel like it's gone downhill.

[00:01:26] Well, so I think and I'll get into this in my points, but actually before we get

[00:01:32] into like talking about it, let's just go ahead and hit the recap real quick.

[00:01:35] Yeah.

[00:01:36] All right, it's Halloween and the gang has to face their fears.

[00:01:40] Jen must confront her fear of intimacy by sincerely telling someone that she loves them

[00:01:46] without sarcasm or turning it into a joke or literally anything else that she does.

[00:01:52] Carrie deals with being single for the first time in years by calling on a golden age

[00:01:55] screen siren to teach her how to be sexy and it backfires.

[00:02:00] When Carrie's spirit guests refuses to leave her body, Jen and Cash must perform

[00:02:04] an exorcism true love saves the day when Jen sincerely reaches the trapped

[00:02:10] Carrie with love.

[00:02:12] Meanwhile, confronted with real life responsibility,

[00:02:15] Jizz Lorde pops out and returns to cat form and has an eventful night.

[00:02:21] Speaking of that,

[00:02:23] did he cheat on Jen by sleeping with that cat?

[00:02:26] I don't know. I don't know if I mean, I imagine Jen might think so.

[00:02:35] Or at least be very, very uncomfortable about it.

[00:02:39] Yeah, like was that cat a person who turned into a cat or is that a cat?

[00:02:44] A cat that turns into a human?

[00:02:46] I don't know. Or is it just a cat?

[00:02:48] Or is it just a cat?

[00:02:49] It's very uncomfortable for me to think about.

[00:02:56] All right, so general impression.

[00:02:58] We kind of started into it a little bit ago, but good.

[00:03:02] It was weak.

[00:03:03] There was there were a lot of jokes that fell flat for me and I felt like there

[00:03:07] was too much reliance on the shock factor of things like the big penis balloon

[00:03:15] or inflatable and

[00:03:18] like just like, oh, they're in a Halloween store on Halloween.

[00:03:22] It's spooky. It's not actually.

[00:03:24] And

[00:03:26] there just wasn't any twist or extra surprise to anything.

[00:03:30] I didn't love it.

[00:03:32] And I thought the Dahlia character was so annoying and unrealistic.

[00:03:38] Like there's no reason that she had to advise

[00:03:41] Carrie to do things like pretend to fall and grab someone's junk.

[00:03:44] Like, that's not actually funny.

[00:03:47] Yeah.

[00:03:49] I mean, it seems like and this is just me.

[00:03:55] It seems like they have like the smart writing

[00:04:00] that we enjoyed so much in season one, even when it was juvenile.

[00:04:05] The smart writing.

[00:04:06] I mean, yeah, it was it was it was smart.

[00:04:09] It was clever. It was well done.

[00:04:12] It was not topical.

[00:04:15] Right? It was unpredictable.

[00:04:17] Right. And and here the only one that wasn't necessarily Halloween themed.

[00:04:23] I mean, I guess it kind of was the only one that I really kind of enjoyed

[00:04:28] was Gis Lord's cast storyline.

[00:04:31] I did not enjoy it at all.

[00:04:34] Maybe it's a matter of there were things in that storyline that I found funny or

[00:04:41] like I thought that the witch flying into the the electric lines.

[00:04:48] I did laugh at that.

[00:04:50] Although why did they have her be somebody with a woman with long reddish hair

[00:04:57] dressed as a witch when Jen was also dressed as a witch?

[00:04:59] It was needlessly confusing because I was like, wait, why is Jen on the roof?

[00:05:03] Why did Jen fly all of a sudden and I had to like rewind and look at it again?

[00:05:07] And I was like, oh, but then what?

[00:05:09] Like why there was no need for Jen to be dressed as a witch.

[00:05:13] So why have this?

[00:05:15] Yeah, talking about a show I didn't enjoy because they just sound like a

[00:05:20] cranky pants.

[00:05:24] I mean, so yeah, there were I mean, there were parts of this.

[00:05:28] I mean, I think that I did find funny

[00:05:32] back to Gis Lord like his trying to escape capital gains tax.

[00:05:36] Yeah, cats don't have to pay capital gains tax.

[00:05:40] Is it too late to be a slut?

[00:05:41] Yeah, I mean, yeah, finding him naked in a tree.

[00:05:45] I thought was funny.

[00:05:46] But what it seemed like what it felt like to me was that

[00:05:51] this they tried to do a tree house of horror.

[00:05:55] And, you know, the Simpsons had may have had a tree house of horror

[00:06:01] episode in their first season, but they also had 25 or 22 or however many episodes.

[00:06:09] And this one, they this is the first time they've tried a thematic one.

[00:06:14] And it didn't it didn't work for me.

[00:06:17] It was so and maybe because it was Halloween,

[00:06:20] maybe if it was Valentine's Day and they made a themed rom-com style

[00:06:25] type thing that might better at that.

[00:06:27] Yeah, that's what I mean, like that that that theme just matches this show better.

[00:06:32] And

[00:06:34] and the other part to it is that a lot of times where you have a slow plot episode,

[00:06:41] like the only thing we got as far as plot goes here was

[00:06:45] that Gis Lord talked about having to take his son to flute lessons and mandarin lessons.

[00:06:52] That was it.

[00:06:53] Like we didn't have any we didn't have any moving forward of the plot

[00:06:59] and interactions with what's his wife's name?

[00:07:02] Oh, Nora. Nora, we didn't have any

[00:07:04] actions with Nora. We did get an important revelation about Jen that her core fear,

[00:07:12] they like they've discovered what they think is the root cause of her not

[00:07:15] having a power and that it's her fear of intimacy.

[00:07:18] That's true. That's a major plot point.

[00:07:21] It's a little, again, predictable.

[00:07:26] But yeah, it moved that forward.

[00:07:29] It seemed like not enough episode stretched over the time period.

[00:07:33] Like that it just didn't feel fulfilling the way that the show usually does.

[00:07:38] Like usually at the end of a half an hour episode, I'm like, oh, my God,

[00:07:41] I can't believe how much they crushed into that one episode was like densely

[00:07:46] packed with jokes. Right.

[00:07:47] And this felt like

[00:07:50] you know, when you watch like a Saturday night live skit and you're like,

[00:07:52] they should have stopped after the first joke.

[00:07:54] It's not funny anymore.

[00:07:56] It kind of felt like that.

[00:07:57] Yeah. I mean, even and even the return of the vet.

[00:08:04] So disappointing.

[00:08:05] I was I was very.

[00:08:08] Yeah, disappointing is the right word.

[00:08:09] I mean, the things that were so funny about the vet last season

[00:08:13] were the incredibly depressed animals.

[00:08:15] And he had the headphones so that we didn't get to hear any of the depressed

[00:08:19] animals and how like desperate and depressed he was in that life.

[00:08:26] And with the headphones and then basically what's another penis joke about,

[00:08:30] like, just Lord maybe getting spayed or neutered.

[00:08:34] Is it spayed for females?

[00:08:36] Yes, neutered for males.

[00:08:37] Yeah, possibly getting neutered, which it never happens that fast.

[00:08:41] But like they catch the cat and take it directly to the vet.

[00:08:44] And then the neutering starts like that was ridiculous.

[00:08:47] But it was basically just another penis joke.

[00:08:49] And then they knocked the vet out and we leave and like we didn't get any of

[00:08:52] the stuff that made him so funny.

[00:08:55] I did think, I mean, it took me a while to it took me at least

[00:09:00] in my second watch to understand that the Bregi was the turtle

[00:09:04] and that he was yelling

[00:09:07] like as he was crawling out of the well very slowly crawling out of the vet's

[00:09:12] office. I did laugh at that.

[00:09:14] Yeah, but then I was like, oh, what were all the other animals yelling?

[00:09:19] Like we don't get to hear them.

[00:09:20] They were so funny last time.

[00:09:22] Yeah, I mean, even as dark as they were, it was it was funny.

[00:09:26] And yeah, I was just I was just I was disappointed in this.

[00:09:30] And we didn't get to Tito came back and we didn't get.

[00:09:33] First of all, Tito didn't show any signs of having been in a horrific

[00:09:36] car accident. That was a bummer.

[00:09:38] I was like, wait, but like they should have had him in be bandaged up or something.

[00:09:42] Right. And then we didn't get the vitriol.

[00:09:46] That was what was so great about Tito was how how much he hated Gislord.

[00:09:52] It was hilarious from the little tiny pup.

[00:09:54] No, I know exactly. You're talking about. Yeah.

[00:09:57] Yeah, it just it feels like there were this episode was a multitude of

[00:10:06] opportunities lost.

[00:10:08] Yeah, because I think feel like some of the things they could have expounded upon

[00:10:13] or done slightly differently or majorly differently and, you know, it could have

[00:10:19] been better or at least more enjoyable.

[00:10:24] Like Dahlia was I mean, I thought that she was as a spirit inhabiting

[00:10:32] Carrie's body or trying to take it over.

[00:10:34] I thought that that attitude was good, but the like the the the evil incarnate

[00:10:41] attitude of Dahlia, but the

[00:10:47] just the Hollywood starlet slut that is like OK.

[00:10:53] Like, I mean, I didn't find it believable.

[00:10:56] I didn't I didn't find her to be funny either.

[00:10:59] I don't find sexual assault funny.

[00:11:02] And there are so many ways they could have gone with her being sexy and craving youth

[00:11:09] that didn't have to be.

[00:11:12] You know, like crude in that way.

[00:11:15] Like what makes things like calling the cat Gislord, which is a crude joke.

[00:11:21] What makes that funny and ultimately endearing is that there's a whole bunch

[00:11:26] of detail and richness to it of the cat being like we know where the name came

[00:11:30] from and that it was a joke and then it stuck and like it works.

[00:11:33] But like having a starlet we've never heard of before.

[00:11:36] And it's better than come bucket.

[00:11:38] I mean, yeah, it is.

[00:11:39] And he's charming so we get charmed by it.

[00:11:42] Right.

[00:11:43] But this character we know we're not going to see again.

[00:11:46] And we're only going to see this one time for her to be like and then you

[00:11:49] just grab their penis.

[00:11:50] It's like.

[00:11:52] That doesn't really didn't like to grab the penis.

[00:11:54] I didn't.

[00:11:55] I really I didn't think it was at all funny and

[00:11:59] at all believable and.

[00:12:02] I don't know.

[00:12:03] I just I mean, maybe maybe that like I'm not I have no idea if they actually

[00:12:09] hold that reference or that that character or style of character from someone

[00:12:14] in particular or whatever they use someone as as inspiration for that.

[00:12:18] But yeah, I just like I.

[00:12:21] It's my favorite era of sort of the Hollywood star culture is is the sort

[00:12:27] of screen sirens of the thirties and forties.

[00:12:30] I wrote my senior

[00:12:33] research paper in college about Joan Crawford.

[00:12:37] It's it's an era I'm really familiar with.

[00:12:40] And she was sort of like a Lauren Bacall, Rosalyn Russell, Joan Crawford, Betty

[00:12:45] Davis combo.

[00:12:46] And I can see any of those women being manipulative, using sex as a weapon,

[00:12:55] using sex for power, being a little evil, being strategic,

[00:13:00] being drunk, being over sexualized, but not being like stupid and aggressive

[00:13:06] in that crude way. It's just not it.

[00:13:12] It felt like a first draft of a joke.

[00:13:14] Right. I get that.

[00:13:18] All right. So, you know, we were both kind of disappointed by this.

[00:13:23] But so let's go ahead and and move on.

[00:13:29] Rather than humiliation of the week,

[00:13:33] how about you pick something that you enjoyed?

[00:13:36] One thing, one thing.

[00:13:37] I have a couple of things actually.

[00:13:39] But my favorite favorite moments are when after Carrie has consulted with

[00:13:45] Dahlia and then she's getting dressed up for Halloween when she was trying to be

[00:13:49] sexy in the mirror and she was like making faces and like shimming her shoulders.

[00:13:55] And she kept saying sexy, sexy to herself.

[00:13:58] Like that was going to bring something out of her.

[00:14:01] It was so cute.

[00:14:03] It's one of those moments and there are many where I just am so in love with

[00:14:07] Carrie. I just think she's like the sweetest, cutest person ever.

[00:14:11] Yeah. I mean, and it was funny because last week you talked about

[00:14:15] Carrie and

[00:14:18] specifically the way that Sophia Oxnum slumps her shoulders or changes her

[00:14:26] body posture in order to desexify herself.

[00:14:30] And and like, you know, she comes in and a croon.

[00:14:36] Did you call me a croon?

[00:14:38] Like what?

[00:14:39] I mean, it was just like, I mean, especially after last week's conversation,

[00:14:44] like it was like, oh, yeah.

[00:14:46] Like, OK, I it's it's like a personification of exactly what you were talking about.

[00:14:51] Yeah.

[00:14:52] But yeah, it was funny that when she was putting

[00:14:56] when she was putting on those faces in the mirror,

[00:14:59] a couple of them are just like, wow, she doesn't even look like Carrie at this

[00:15:03] point with those particular faces on or the puckering of the lips or whatever.

[00:15:09] OK.

[00:15:11] Her outfit was fire, though.

[00:15:13] I loved it.

[00:15:17] All right.

[00:15:17] So I really my maybe not my favorite part,

[00:15:21] like one of the things that I really enjoyed about this was I grew up

[00:15:26] like my when I was 12, I read Stephen King's It for the first time.

[00:15:32] And and I I'm not going to say I fell in love with it because

[00:15:38] it was terrifying and I didn't understand a lot of the jokes because I was 12.

[00:15:42] And I didn't know what a hole meant.

[00:15:47] I thought it was just saying a hole and I didn't know what that was.

[00:15:51] But but so so I fell into Stephen King's heart.

[00:15:58] So I read dozens of books by Stephen King and seeing all of her fear books

[00:16:05] kind of in the in the vein of Stephen King, number one, being enemies.

[00:16:11] Her covered in blood just like on the front of Carrie,

[00:16:15] well, specifically specific, specific, basic version of Carrie in the film.

[00:16:20] And then.

[00:16:24] And so like that whole

[00:16:27] all the Stephen King references that at least that I picked up on or I thought

[00:16:33] I picked up on, but it may just be like Halloween style of references.

[00:16:37] But the.

[00:16:39] The fact that she was already covered in blood,

[00:16:43] because the box blew up blood at her and she's like she looked like she did on the

[00:16:47] cover of the picture, I thought that was funny.

[00:16:49] And so yeah, I did enjoy the the lists and the way that she identified

[00:16:54] which one was her biggest fear.

[00:16:57] And I will say that.

[00:16:59] Not noting a thing, a snake in the toilet and then sitting down in the toilet

[00:17:04] and then the snake crawls up my bum and then I've got a snake in my bum.

[00:17:08] It was absolutely an irrational fear of mine when I was a child.

[00:17:12] But for me, it was Freddie Krueger.

[00:17:14] And what if I sit down and Freddie Krueger sticks his finger at my bum

[00:17:18] and I'm terrified of it and.

[00:17:21] Yeah, that would be horrible.

[00:17:23] So yeah, so I understood the fear of the snake up the bum fear.

[00:17:28] Yeah.

[00:17:29] And the bears call back was good.

[00:17:31] I have my yeah.

[00:17:31] Yeah, bears.

[00:17:32] I have reasons.

[00:17:34] I also enjoyed the the look and feel of some of the books.

[00:17:38] They were very reminiscent to me of

[00:17:41] YA books that I got at like the Scholastic Book Fair back in the day.

[00:17:45] Yeah, like the boost of the RL Stein and the Goosebumps.

[00:17:49] And I'm a generation ahead of you.

[00:17:52] So for me, it was fair enough.

[00:17:54] It was let's see Girls of Canby Hall.

[00:17:57] I was pre let's not get into it.

[00:18:01] A lot of Lois Duncan.

[00:18:02] There were a lot of Lois Duncan books in my in my teen years, Judy Bloom.

[00:18:08] And then I found Trash sci-fi.

[00:18:10] So from there, I was just like

[00:18:13] off on another level.

[00:18:14] Yeah, that was a whole different thing.

[00:18:15] You don't get those at the Scholastic Book Fair.

[00:18:17] You have to get those elsewhere.

[00:18:20] Same with a friend of mine bought a grocery bag full of Harlequin romance

[00:18:26] at a garage sale for like a dollar.

[00:18:29] And we pass those around all the girls in eighth grade.

[00:18:35] Yeah, that might explain some stuff actually.

[00:18:40] But anyway, yeah, Jen's bookstore continues to be like the best thing about

[00:18:44] this season. Yeah, I'm still totally looking forward to seeing more of it.

[00:18:51] So we have the name of the life coach guy, George, right?

[00:18:56] Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

[00:18:57] He was like, oh, Times, your name called you fat.

[00:19:02] Does that go into family trauma wing or the body image shelf?

[00:19:06] I thought was really a great line and pretty awesome.

[00:19:11] Do you want to know what the other signs were that I saw?

[00:19:13] That are by all means

[00:19:15] there was a sign.

[00:19:16] There's there was a section called Fights with mom.

[00:19:20] Another one that was called Abba through alcohol.

[00:19:24] I have no idea what that's all about.

[00:19:25] There was a bust of someone with a little sign on it that says favorite teacher.

[00:19:31] Pointless lyrics, potential rap names.

[00:19:34] I can't remember if we saw those last time.

[00:19:38] Her fear books are about bears and cancer.

[00:19:41] Cancer was number 87 bears was number 15, which is just a lot of books.

[00:19:47] There's another one of the fears.

[00:19:49] The one about the snake in the toilet is number five thousand six hundred seventy nine.

[00:19:54] That's just how many fear books that she has in her brain.

[00:19:58] And and we already talked about the blood

[00:20:01] and the screaming and the intimacy book, but yeah, I did like the tag line of the NMC book.

[00:20:08] Oh, what was the tag line?

[00:20:10] I missed it. Don't stand so close to me emotionally.

[00:20:15] I was like, that's awesome.

[00:20:18] It was like, don't stand so close to me.

[00:20:20] Period. Emotionally.

[00:20:21] Period.

[00:20:24] That's really good.

[00:20:27] But yeah, so all right, so let's go ahead and we'll start with

[00:20:33] Jenna and emissy.

[00:20:34] We've covered a bit of it already, but kind of all right.

[00:20:38] So we in the bookstore, we identify a number of fears and she identifies the NMC.

[00:20:45] So his homework to her is to tell someone that she loves them

[00:20:51] without turning it into a joke or sarcasm or any of your other normal.

[00:20:56] Just say.

[00:20:58] Tell someone that you love them and mean it.

[00:21:00] And and we only get two scenes of this.

[00:21:04] I wish that this was like a more of a more running gag, like if she tried to do it

[00:21:10] with Carrie or she tried to try to run into Andy or something like that.

[00:21:15] I don't know that she actually loves her half sister, but

[00:21:19] you know, whatever.

[00:21:21] Yeah. But so the the the giz Lord portion, I thought I this this one,

[00:21:28] I actually did like honest to God, laugh out loud at

[00:21:33] and she's just like blathering on.

[00:21:36] She's very much like that.

[00:21:37] I'm going to come straight to the point.

[00:21:39] We're not going to procrastinate.

[00:21:40] And what I'm very, very, very, very, very, I'm literally quoting Ted Lasso in my head.

[00:21:47] Pro. Very good.

[00:21:49] What's the etymology?

[00:21:50] Like and and and she just keeps going.

[00:21:55] And then I did like some of her.

[00:21:56] I love you, bro.

[00:21:58] Folk and love you, bro. Yeah.

[00:22:00] I mean, hey, you know,

[00:22:03] did you say love?

[00:22:04] What are you the love love police?

[00:22:06] ACAB? I mean, I was I didn't know what ACAB was.

[00:22:10] Oh, I can tell you.

[00:22:12] It stands for my computer just did a weird thing and open something

[00:22:18] in front of my notes.

[00:22:20] That's can't give me a second.

[00:22:22] All right.

[00:22:25] ACAB stands for all caps.

[00:22:30] ACAB stands for all cops or bastards.

[00:22:32] And it's a saying that is sort of generated by

[00:22:37] Antifa and lefty groups, but that's been co-opted as like slang in pop culture.

[00:22:44] Slang for what?

[00:22:45] Like all cops are bastards.

[00:22:46] It's just like sort of a general, like don't be a narc.

[00:22:50] Don't oh, because she was referring to the love police.

[00:22:53] Got it.

[00:22:54] OK, yeah.

[00:22:55] No, I did that.

[00:22:57] That went under my head.

[00:22:59] And I mean, because I would be so much beyond that language.

[00:23:06] Oh, anyway.

[00:23:10] So yeah, like that was funny.

[00:23:12] And then I will just say that the portion of

[00:23:17] the of the episode that actually focused on the message that she left her mom.

[00:23:23] Yeah, that was good.

[00:23:24] Like the first the message that she left,

[00:23:29] which was reasonably sweet, but you could tell she was very awkward in saying it.

[00:23:40] Also, she was trash talking her mother right up to the end of the beep.

[00:23:43] Right.

[00:23:44] That was funny.

[00:23:46] And like and she immediately goes into the softer voice of, oh,

[00:23:51] oh, hey, mom, just want to.

[00:23:53] But, you know, when her mom shows up and she says, mom, what are you doing here?

[00:23:59] Your message? Are you being a hostage?

[00:24:01] I was like that she did sound like someone who's being held hostage and

[00:24:04] was being, you know, oh, hey, this is a code for you to show up and save me.

[00:24:09] Yeah.

[00:24:10] I did. I thought that that aspect of this was pretty funny.

[00:24:15] Yeah, I've seen it before, but.

[00:24:18] Yeah, I mean, I'm not not saying that it was groundbreaking.

[00:24:21] I just think I found that those now I

[00:24:25] I did not particularly care for her mom being as

[00:24:29] doltish as she was with the whole exorcism.

[00:24:32] Yeah.

[00:24:33] The the turns out he was just Portuguese.

[00:24:37] Like lovely, lovely fellow.

[00:24:40] But I was talking to the priest.

[00:24:42] Yeah, right?

[00:24:43] It's like none of it hit for me.

[00:24:45] And it wasn't funny to me at all, whereas she could have had a story that didn't

[00:24:49] involve victimizing some poor person that was about how she was obsessed with

[00:24:54] exorcism movies or that she had a weird priest when she grew up who told them

[00:24:59] all about how to do exorcisms.

[00:25:01] Yeah, it could have been.

[00:25:03] Literally anything else.

[00:25:05] And I might have enjoyed it more.

[00:25:08] All I could think was like, that's a horrible story.

[00:25:11] Yeah.

[00:25:14] Yeah, like I don't know, maybe I'm just cranky.

[00:25:17] No, you know, but I think I feel like we're kind of on the same page here, though.

[00:25:21] Is that there were a number of good ideas and poorly executed.

[00:25:27] Yeah, I also thought that the mom's Halloween costume was sort of like

[00:25:32] a little bit of a fat joke.

[00:25:33] Like it's funny because she's an older woman and she doesn't have like a

[00:25:39] svelte figure that she would be wearing a skin tight silver outfit, I guess.

[00:25:43] But like, I don't I didn't get the joke.

[00:25:46] Yeah, meaning that I didn't know who she was supposed to be.

[00:25:48] Right? I was like, is she an alien?

[00:25:50] Is she a disco princess?

[00:25:51] What's happening?

[00:25:53] She's a disco slut.

[00:25:55] Yeah.

[00:25:56] Yeah.

[00:25:56] No, I.

[00:25:57] I.

[00:25:59] I was like, all I can say is how I might your mother did it better.

[00:26:04] The slutty pumpkin story will live in my in my head forever.

[00:26:08] And every year they would come back and they'd have to try to go find the

[00:26:12] slutty pumpkin and and it was it was great.

[00:26:14] And unfortunately, the age of this one just didn't hit.

[00:26:17] Yeah.

[00:26:19] And which as you said, is just disappointing.

[00:26:22] All right.

[00:26:23] So that was basically the only portions of Jen versus intimacy that we got.

[00:26:28] Then, of course, when she really does come through with it and sincerely tells

[00:26:34] Carrie how much she loves her.

[00:26:35] Oh, you know, I didn't even think about that.

[00:26:38] Yeah.

[00:26:39] That she actually executed her her her mission or her homework with Carrie.

[00:26:46] Yeah.

[00:26:47] Honestly, God didn't even notice it because I was like this.

[00:26:51] Oh, it's it's like it's like frozen.

[00:26:54] It's what really brought it out was love.

[00:26:57] It was on the good place.

[00:27:01] Like exactly on the good place, but like

[00:27:04] holding the person with both your hands and telling them rapid fire, all the things

[00:27:09] you know about them that are really specific.

[00:27:11] And then finally that you love them and that makes the person like remember

[00:27:15] who they are was very well executed on the good place just not very long ago.

[00:27:20] And I was like, oh, oh, Cheety and Eleanor.

[00:27:23] Like, I just.

[00:27:25] I mean, that is an amazing show.

[00:27:28] Yeah.

[00:27:28] As far as recommendations go, it's a pretty gosh day and good one.

[00:27:31] Yes.

[00:27:32] But anyway.

[00:27:34] Anyway, but she did eventually finish the homework and had that very sincere

[00:27:41] speech to Carrie that saved Carrie from the evil Dahlia.

[00:27:45] So, you know, that was sweet.

[00:27:47] That was really nice.

[00:27:48] Yeah. OK. Fair enough.

[00:27:50] Like I said, I thought I didn't even realize that it was a part of that

[00:27:53] plot point because I completely missed it.

[00:27:55] Yeah, they were merging the plots.

[00:27:58] Got it.

[00:28:02] I want to just jump back a minute to something earlier in the show.

[00:28:05] One of the things I like about this show is that it has a hipness to it and

[00:28:09] and there's lingo.

[00:28:11] And so, Jen, when they're watching like some old, you know, public domain

[00:28:16] and therefore cheap horror movie about a mummy that is not scary.

[00:28:20] And for some reason, they've decided cash is a frady cat, which doesn't

[00:28:25] really make sense because then why was he like vigilante vigilante last night?

[00:28:29] Right. He was going into bullets way.

[00:28:32] Yeah, he's he's a pussy.

[00:28:34] He's afraid of yeah.

[00:28:35] And using the word pussy for somebody who's afraid.

[00:28:38] Generally, I am very offended by that.

[00:28:40] But the fact that then she apologized to Gis Lord, I was like, oh, for the joke.

[00:28:44] OK, all right.

[00:28:46] Anyway, she refers to the mummy movie as Naf, N-A-F-F.

[00:28:52] And the sort of first level

[00:28:56] context is that it means lame or useless, but it has a long history.

[00:29:01] And I've found an article that we can link in the show notes from The Guardian.

[00:29:05] And it's just sort of generally the history.

[00:29:07] The N-A-F-F originally stood for not available for fucking and it originated

[00:29:13] in this sort of underground gay scene in the UK and was used to refer to like

[00:29:18] straight people that showed up at like a gay bar or a gay party and they'd be like,

[00:29:23] oh, don't bother. That's he's Naf.

[00:29:25] And that sort of evolved over the decades to to mean

[00:29:31] like lame or stupid or campy even.

[00:29:35] And and sometimes it's got a little bit of a

[00:29:40] of a campy, kitschy and therefore almost cool again connotation to it.

[00:29:45] But for the most part, it means useless.

[00:29:48] Like not available for fucking means like that person isn't like worth your time.

[00:29:53] So the movie is like it's not going to scare us anyway.

[00:29:56] It's impotent. It's not available to fuck with our heads.

[00:29:59] Kind of that's where that that's what that means.

[00:30:02] OK. And I like learning new slang.

[00:30:05] So yeah, Naf.

[00:30:06] Well, I mean, as as we learned in She-Hulk,

[00:30:09] like I did not know that drip was clothing and now I do.

[00:30:14] And I'm starting to see it everywhere.

[00:30:17] Right.

[00:30:18] I've heard it way more since I saw it on that show.

[00:30:20] Yeah. All right.

[00:30:22] So next plot point, just Lord's cat ventures.

[00:30:25] Yeah.

[00:30:27] So yeah, I'm pretty sure he had sex with that white cat.

[00:30:31] Yeah. So I'm just going to not much dialogue here.

[00:30:35] Right. So let's go over his his adventures.

[00:30:39] He turned into a cat by eating the salmon or I'm assuming it was the salmon.

[00:30:43] We actually got to watch him transform sort of he shrunk anyway.

[00:30:49] And then he was watching

[00:30:52] squirrels or birds on the computer so that he would go to sleep and not

[00:30:59] be subject to capital gains taxes.

[00:31:01] I play those videos for my cat on on the TV all the time.

[00:31:05] There's like out like several hour long videos on YouTube of birds at a bird feeder

[00:31:11] or like squirrels at a squirrel feeder.

[00:31:13] And I got to say, like I'll put them on when I'm just in the house and doing something

[00:31:18] else and I'll put them on to see if my cat enjoys them.

[00:31:20] And they're just the most lovely background companion.

[00:31:23] There's like little bird noises and the wind blowing in the leaves.

[00:31:28] It's really nice.

[00:31:30] The I guess prior to this, the reason he became a cat was because

[00:31:35] he's arguing with someone.

[00:31:37] Now, I don't quite understand how he's subject to capital gains tax

[00:31:41] unless Nora sold their home in the last four years.

[00:31:46] Stocks or something.

[00:31:48] Yeah, I just like I'm trying to understand.

[00:31:51] Yeah, we don't have enough information.

[00:31:53] And this is another area where I'm like anyone who like that's

[00:31:56] it's just an annoying tiny piece of information.

[00:31:59] And if he had just said tax and not capital gains tax, right?

[00:32:02] It would have been more relatable, but maybe that's a more common in the UK.

[00:32:07] I don't know.

[00:32:08] Yeah, I don't know just because I know that I was at one point subject

[00:32:11] to capital gains tax and so I know a little bit about it because I had to learn

[00:32:15] about it because I was looking to avoid them the same way that he was.

[00:32:19] Yeah.

[00:32:22] But so so then I did think that the opening that oh, there's a rat in here

[00:32:28] and like, why would you do that?

[00:32:29] So I thought it was empty.

[00:32:32] That was entertaining.

[00:32:33] I thought it was a missed opportunity for a what's in the box joke.

[00:32:37] What's in the box?

[00:32:38] I can see that.

[00:32:41] I'm very partial to that joke to what's in the box, though.

[00:32:44] So I might be biased.

[00:32:46] But I there was so much like like the music was trying to build tension and like

[00:32:54] it's like I just just sort of just like looking at cash like literally just

[00:33:01] like, what are you doing?

[00:33:03] Why?

[00:33:04] Yeah.

[00:33:04] Why?

[00:33:05] You can not even put your hand about.

[00:33:07] I don't know what the deal is.

[00:33:09] Is the face just completely did not match the tone of what they were what it felt

[00:33:14] like they were trying to do.

[00:33:16] Yeah.

[00:33:17] And maybe they were trying to do something is like, oh, it's so ridiculous

[00:33:21] that he won't put his hand in the box.

[00:33:24] But then I didn't think the rat being in there was funny and both cash and

[00:33:28] Jen freaking out was was entertaining.

[00:33:32] The.

[00:33:34] And so he becomes a cat and then, oh,

[00:33:37] there's this white cat outside on the porch.

[00:33:39] All right.

[00:33:40] I guess I need to figure out how to get out to go find this cat and then give my

[00:33:45] signature Gislord orgasm sound or orgasm meow.

[00:33:49] The white cat was an Alice in Wonderland reference like a white rabbit.

[00:33:55] I don't know because Alice never fucked the white rabbit.

[00:33:57] So I'm not 100 percent sure.

[00:33:59] Yeah.

[00:34:01] Like not not a bad reference.

[00:34:05] But I mean,

[00:34:08] like I just was like, OK, so he's following cat.

[00:34:11] All right. Yeah.

[00:34:12] We go to the cats love nest, I guess,

[00:34:15] which up on the roof in this very specific spot, it looked almost like

[00:34:19] an area that was set up and for for loving in the cat world.

[00:34:27] And then goes off to a party

[00:34:30] and then like literally then just goes and tries to eat a chicken

[00:34:38] and get caught in a trap and attempts to get neutered.

[00:34:41] And then like the little paw that you saw knocking the needle off of the

[00:34:47] like it was it was like so over the top campy.

[00:34:50] It was like this has got to be on purpose that they're reminding me of

[00:34:55] Tunis's, do you remember Tunis's on Saturday Night Live?

[00:34:58] The driving cat. Oh, yeah.

[00:35:00] Yeah. Like the corny big paw was very Tunis's to me.

[00:35:05] Yeah, I mean, but again, if if more of the show had hit and where they played

[00:35:11] more into the camp or whatever, I feel like it could have been more like

[00:35:17] self referential in their reverend.

[00:35:22] But then we see Reggie get get pushed out.

[00:35:26] Actually, I guess that was that how he it was with Tito.

[00:35:31] He was being chased by Tito and his friends.

[00:35:34] And then that's how he found the chicken, right?

[00:35:37] And then yeah.

[00:35:39] No, no, it was after that.

[00:35:40] It was after that because he escaped from the vet and then Tito and his friends

[00:35:44] were chasing him, chased him up a tree and that was where he ended up.

[00:35:47] Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah.

[00:35:50] And I thought that in waking up in a tree kind of like American War of London,

[00:35:55] you know, waking up in a tree like, OK, you know, I was.

[00:35:59] Yeah. All right.

[00:36:00] Sure.

[00:36:01] American War of London matches the theme and you try to do a joke and OK, sure.

[00:36:07] But again, not not groundbreaking, not nothing, not something I've never seen before.

[00:36:14] And and let me be very clear about this.

[00:36:19] It's not that I'm disappointed in the writers or the show.

[00:36:23] It's that my the bar has been set so high by the writing.

[00:36:28] Yeah, the performance is so far was so good.

[00:36:32] They're competing against themselves.

[00:36:34] Yeah, it's like I'm not going to not watch this in favor of some other show

[00:36:39] that has a Halloween episode.

[00:36:41] But I mean, I just like I was.

[00:36:44] OK, no, seriously, we got to stop.

[00:36:46] We got to shut down the negativity, right?

[00:36:48] Yeah, if you do like a really great Halloween episode,

[00:36:52] I highly recommend the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Halloween episodes.

[00:36:56] They are iconic and highly entertaining.

[00:37:01] And we have a podcast that covers them as well.

[00:37:04] So weird.

[00:37:06] Yeah, we have a podcast that covers it.

[00:37:09] They are actually iconic, though.

[00:37:10] They're really truly fantastic.

[00:37:12] Yeah.

[00:37:13] Yeah, I mean, like Treehouse of Horror.

[00:37:15] Like I think they did amazing work through the years on those.

[00:37:19] And, you know, I really as I thought I'd really enjoyed the how I met your mother

[00:37:24] running gag, same thing with Friendsgiving.

[00:37:26] Like they I thought that that show did it very, very well.

[00:37:30] Yeah.

[00:37:31] And maybe we'll just with with eight episodes per season,

[00:37:36] like don't waste one on a Halloween episode that.

[00:37:42] In my opinion, didn't work.

[00:37:45] Anyway, OK, so now moving on to the main course.

[00:37:49] And we've already talked about a bunch of this already.

[00:37:51] Yeah, the actual exorcism.

[00:37:53] Yeah, the exorcism of Carrie Jackson.

[00:37:57] And, you know, you you you you addressed like my notes for Dahlia are.

[00:38:03] Dahlia is not great.

[00:38:09] Let me see.

[00:38:11] I wrote I don't enjoy this Dahlia character at all.

[00:38:17] I love the idea of Carrie not being able to get rid of one of the spirits.

[00:38:21] I think that is brilliant.

[00:38:23] Again, I think that's a fantastic idea.

[00:38:26] Yeah, I just this one, this this horrible, unlikable character.

[00:38:31] Like think about what they did with the King.

[00:38:34] Was it Charles character last season?

[00:38:36] I mean, he was not a good person, but he was fucking hilarious.

[00:38:40] Yeah.

[00:38:41] I just didn't find Dahlia funny at all.

[00:38:44] Like, I think my my notes here are characters over the top.

[00:38:49] I'm not sure if that was talking about cash or that was talking about Dahlia.

[00:38:55] I'm assuming it was talking about Dahlia.

[00:38:57] I did enjoy the the the blue eyes off to the side in the bookcase.

[00:39:07] But then I thought that the the the like the quote unquote fight scene was weak.

[00:39:13] It was like, oh, I'm going to come at you with a knife and walk slowly down this hall.

[00:39:17] And then like like I said, the inflatable penis like haha.

[00:39:21] I mean, I could see it like you're in a gap.

[00:39:24] Given that they have the Margaret Thatcher outfit and like I get why they have that.

[00:39:31] Yeah, I've seen that that party stores always have stuff like that.

[00:39:35] I actually they have tons of them.

[00:39:37] So they could have done like there's like Bachelorette party section is

[00:39:41] like full of penis stuff.

[00:39:43] Like they might as well have gone like like all the way and had the penis necklaces

[00:39:49] and the penis flashlights and the penis whistles and like all the penis stuff coming

[00:39:53] to so, yeah, so then you know, Jen starts throwing penis straw

[00:39:57] toppers at that or if you just had like a running gag of penis stuff throughout

[00:40:02] the episode, this character, Dahlia is like some kind of sex man who likes

[00:40:08] grabbing penises.

[00:40:09] So make her grab some penises.

[00:40:11] Like yeah, make her fall down and grab one of the penises to hold herself up.

[00:40:16] Like yeah, absolutely.

[00:40:17] Like I said, missed opportunities.

[00:40:20] But didn't like outside of it being a trope in horror movies.

[00:40:25] Like why did Jen drop the flashlight?

[00:40:28] Like she screamed and then dropped the flashlight.

[00:40:31] Why wouldn't you hold on to the flashlight tighter?

[00:40:34] Like you don't have a reflex for you when you tense up.

[00:40:38] You let go of things.

[00:40:40] It's true. Letting go is the hardest thing to do when you're scared.

[00:40:43] Yeah.

[00:40:46] And then, you know, when they get her

[00:40:49] tied up and, you know, or re tied up and Jen's mom shows up and then the

[00:40:55] the exorcism itself, like it just like said, it just didn't hit for me.

[00:41:01] Like I didn't understand why there was thunder happening.

[00:41:05] I guess it was a powerful actual thing happening or something.

[00:41:09] I don't know that the oh, you've got she's got crow's feet already.

[00:41:14] And Cash is talking shit about Carrie and I just yeah, I don't pick on our Carrie.

[00:41:20] We love her.

[00:41:21] Yeah, I did.

[00:41:22] And Cash was such a ridiculous character.

[00:41:26] Like to take something that,

[00:41:29] hey, he's just a scary cat based on someone who was wanted to go

[00:41:36] get into the middle of things last season.

[00:41:40] It just makes if he was like trying to save Carrie instead of just being scared.

[00:41:48] I did think that it was funny that he started singing at Christmas Carol

[00:41:51] right at the top of the stairs.

[00:41:53] If his fears were more specific, like there's something very funny about

[00:41:57] someone because he was kind of a coward in the end with the vigilance.

[00:42:01] But he thought he was brave.

[00:42:03] And in this episode, he was like, no, I'm afraid of everything.

[00:42:06] If he had been like specifically afraid of witches or spiders or bats,

[00:42:12] they could have made that work on in a Halloween episode.

[00:42:16] But for him to be like, I'm afraid of everything didn't ring true.

[00:42:20] And therefore it was distracting from the episode from the whatever.

[00:42:25] Was a was a funny.

[00:42:27] So.

[00:42:29] Unfortunately, like I would not I would not give this.

[00:42:34] Well, I'm not I would not even know the ratings because I could not

[00:42:37] yeah, really care for it.

[00:42:41] It sucks.

[00:42:42] But just a disappointment.

[00:42:44] I'm really, really hoping that the next episode brings me back.

[00:42:49] Yeah, I hope so too.

[00:42:50] I do have one question for you though.

[00:42:52] Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. Sorry.

[00:42:54] If you had Carrie's ability to call on a dead person to teach you a skill.

[00:43:03] Who would you call on?

[00:43:05] And what would you get them to teach you?

[00:43:07] Well, that's a really, really good question.

[00:43:15] I would say

[00:43:18] that it would have to be given that this is what I enjoy doing.

[00:43:23] It would have to be someone with

[00:43:26] the ability to influence like with with speaking.

[00:43:34] And like and I'm sure I could take a class to that.

[00:43:37] But, you know, as a as a classic, you know, hey, who's going to help you get over a

[00:43:43] breakup? Oh, Princess Di, she's going to help you create yourself or recreate yourself.

[00:43:51] I mean, if I could pick anyone, even if they're not dead.

[00:43:55] I mean, Barack Obama, he is a phenomenal speaker.

[00:43:58] Yeah, he is really good.

[00:44:00] Like just phenomenal, whether you like his politics or not.

[00:44:04] His his speaking ability and his intonation.

[00:44:07] I like it's just his comedic timing.

[00:44:11] That's what's always really impressed me about him on top of everything else.

[00:44:15] That it shows off his intelligence so much how well he is able to time jokes.

[00:44:22] So speaking of that, you know what?

[00:44:24] This ties into both the comedic and that.

[00:44:27] I would call back George Carlin.

[00:44:31] Oh, good choice.

[00:44:32] And I would because he was seminal to my youth,

[00:44:36] I would ask him to teach me.

[00:44:40] Like not even write jokes for me, just just to give me the hint because I can

[00:44:44] take little bits and pieces of what it right because he would you take things

[00:44:47] that come to bring us together, right?

[00:44:49] What's the same for everybody?

[00:44:51] Those two lines below your nose just above your lip.

[00:44:54] Like, what are those called?

[00:44:55] No one fucking knows.

[00:44:56] Like, yeah, I can.

[00:44:59] Yeah, I can.

[00:45:00] What's that?

[00:45:01] It's this is called your cupid's bow this right here.

[00:45:04] Cupid's bow.

[00:45:05] That's like the scientific term for it.

[00:45:06] That's crazy because of the shape of how the top of your lips make like a bow and

[00:45:10] arrow shape. Oh, OK.

[00:45:13] Yeah, let's see it.

[00:45:14] I had no idea that was called the only reason I know that is because of

[00:45:19] makeup tutorials where they're like and then apply to here and then apply

[00:45:22] to your cupid's bow and then apply to your chin.

[00:45:25] So, oh, yeah.

[00:45:27] George Carlin was a great speaker.

[00:45:32] He could ride the line between comedic and dramatic.

[00:45:37] Yes, he was so smart, so wildly, wildly irreverent and but as you say,

[00:45:45] practically a social genius.

[00:45:47] I don't know if he was a if he was like a trained genius,

[00:45:51] but he could he could identify

[00:45:54] human behaviors and he could just pick them apart and point out the sign.

[00:46:01] Identify the most inane.

[00:46:06] What was it when this opposite of things?

[00:46:09] Hypocrisy, hypocrisy,

[00:46:12] contradictions, contradictions, yes, contradictions in people's behaviors.

[00:46:16] Right. Yeah.

[00:46:18] And this is a common man now, but like one of the

[00:46:22] one of the things that people talk was like, oh,

[00:46:26] pro life, what about after the born before you're born?

[00:46:31] You're good to go.

[00:46:32] But you're born your fuck you.

[00:46:34] It was I mean, I was just like, that's actually a really good point.

[00:46:38] And I'm sure that he wasn't the first person to think about that,

[00:46:41] but it was the first person to make me think about that.

[00:46:44] And, you know, it yeah.

[00:46:46] So I George Carlin and I would just love to talk to him just because I

[00:46:51] give you one of my guests, guests for dinner for my dead table.

[00:46:56] How about you?

[00:46:57] Um,

[00:47:00] Carrie Fisher.

[00:47:02] And I don't know what I would want specifically to learn from her, but

[00:47:07] I idolize her and

[00:47:11] the way that she lived her life so honestly.

[00:47:15] And bravely in the face of a pretty debilitating mental illness and

[00:47:21] her comedic wit, the fact that she was the script doctor on like half of Hollywood's

[00:47:27] hits in the 90s and the early 2000s.

[00:47:30] It's like this unsung hero thing.

[00:47:33] And I just have gotten to a point where I just assume anything funny in a movie

[00:47:37] from that era was written by her.

[00:47:40] I would love to spend time just

[00:47:43] just basking in her presence.

[00:47:46] So the other answer I had was going to be Marilyn Monroe.

[00:47:50] I just I've read a lot of things about her that say that she was able to turn

[00:47:56] her star charisma on and off at will.

[00:48:00] And I would love to do that.

[00:48:03] So teach you charisma or at least fake charisma.

[00:48:06] Yeah. And how to control it.

[00:48:08] I was just looking at it's got to be a miserable experience,

[00:48:12] like in life, though, to maybe not be able to have that,

[00:48:18] like have like mean it.

[00:48:21] Right. So I don't know that I am necessarily charismatic.

[00:48:24] But when I'm talking about something, I like I'm feeling it in the moment.

[00:48:29] And maybe she did when she would speak of things or or whatever.

[00:48:34] But I mean, part of

[00:48:38] part of the joy that I have is actually living in those moments of feeling and emotion.

[00:48:44] And I do make that makes me wonder.

[00:48:46] It's sincere. Yeah.

[00:48:47] And then the sincerity of it is what makes it.

[00:48:51] You know, exude from you.

[00:48:54] And no, that's I mean, that's a good one, though.

[00:48:56] Funny story, not funny story necessarily, but a funny coincidence that both

[00:49:00] George Carlin, who is mine and Carrie Fisher, who is one of yours,

[00:49:04] were both in the about a five minute clip of Jay and Silent Bob strike strike back

[00:49:12] together. They weren't together.

[00:49:13] Yeah. But they were that's great.

[00:49:15] Yeah. George Carlin was a hitchhiker who listed off one of the unwritten rules

[00:49:21] of the road was to give head to the driver as a

[00:49:28] as a basically as a favor to get you as a hitchhiker.

[00:49:33] And then he taught that to Jay is cash grass or ass, right?

[00:49:36] Like either pay in money

[00:49:41] or or drugs or drugs or sex.

[00:49:44] Yeah. And and then he teaches he teaches that to Jay.

[00:49:49] And then Jay tries to go down on Carrie Fisher as a nun.

[00:49:53] Oh, because he's like, oh, I didn't see that movie.

[00:49:56] I haven't seen it. That's funny.

[00:49:58] It's the book of the rule of the unwritten book of the road.

[00:50:02] And then they get in the car with Carrie Fisher and she's like, oh,

[00:50:05] do you follow the book? You follow the book sister? Oh, yes.

[00:50:09] And is it do you also follow the book?

[00:50:14] He's like, I guess.

[00:50:18] It's funny because they were literally in the movie like two minutes apart

[00:50:22] in very short cameos.

[00:50:23] But those are good. I like those.

[00:50:27] All right, we're going to go ahead and take a quick break and we'll be back.

[00:50:31] So this

[00:50:33] and we're back and moving on to some news.

[00:50:38] We have none that we don't want any spoilers because we want to go watch the rest

[00:50:41] of the episode except for this one other little piece of news that Penny is going to talk about.

[00:50:46] Yeah. So Bill El Hosno Place Cash has another series out.

[00:50:51] It's on to be, which is a free streaming service.

[00:50:54] There are eight episodes.

[00:50:56] It's very bingeable and I can tell you this because I've been to the entire thing.

[00:51:00] It's called Dead Hot and it's a little bit pretty little liars.

[00:51:08] The premise is that Bill El Hosno's character and his best friend had five

[00:51:15] years earlier lost her brother, who was also his boyfriend.

[00:51:20] And so they're sort of trauma bonded and having lost this person together, Peter.

[00:51:26] And they're living their lives five years later and weird stuff starts happening

[00:51:31] and they start digging into the mystery of the disappearance of Peter.

[00:51:34] And it's very silly.

[00:51:36] And it's despite being about disappearing people and murders and stuff.

[00:51:42] It's fairly light and fun.

[00:51:44] And yeah, I just bingeed right through it.

[00:51:46] I would recommend it was it was nice.

[00:51:48] It was good. I would not from the previews.

[00:51:51] I would not think to myself this is going to be funny.

[00:51:55] Yeah, like that's that's odd.

[00:51:57] I don't know if I would call it a comedy, but it was like a light.

[00:52:01] Mystery show. OK.

[00:52:04] Parts of it were funny.

[00:52:05] Certainly a lot of the actors were funny.

[00:52:08] I mean, was it kind of like

[00:52:11] what was the show that you covered dead to me where there are funny parts to it?

[00:52:17] But it's kind of dark matter, dark material with like funny characters in a dark situation.

[00:52:24] Gotcha. OK.

[00:52:25] Yeah, maybe I'll have to check that out.

[00:52:27] I liked it.

[00:52:29] All right, so I'm going to go ahead and just apologize.

[00:52:32] I know that we are a little bit

[00:52:34] not a little bit, we're way slow on this.

[00:52:36] And the one episode will have just come out a couple of few days ago because

[00:52:44] pauses and trying to get things to done.

[00:52:48] But hey, it'll be worth the wait.

[00:52:52] But hopefully we'll enjoy next episode and then next time I record

[00:52:56] it will be maybe back to form in the show.

[00:53:00] I'm looking forward to it.

[00:53:03] But so if I mean, we'll have to go back and check on Lysha feedback again before

[00:53:08] the next episode. We didn't see any of this time.

[00:53:10] But at this point, we're going to go ahead and call it into the show.

[00:53:15] Thanks for listening, everybody.

[00:53:17] If you want to get in touch with us,

[00:53:18] you can find all our contact information at podcastica.com.

[00:53:23] You can find links to our social media pages and other shows.

[00:53:28] Speaking of other shows,

[00:53:31] one of the things that Jason and Lucy are doing from Walking Dead Cast,

[00:53:35] sorry, the cast of us is for Patreon members.

[00:53:41] They have tangent time.

[00:53:43] So basically they took

[00:53:45] tangents that they're asking for ideas about and they're just talking about it.

[00:53:51] And I really enjoyed finding out their career paths.

[00:53:55] Lucy's adventures as a whiskey distillery or a distillery hostess to her guide.

[00:54:03] And then they're talking about one of her book that she just finished and some

[00:54:09] of the poetry from it, I thought was really, really cool.

[00:54:12] Yeah, I've been enjoying those as well.

[00:54:14] You have to be a member of the Patreon group for that.

[00:54:16] It's well worth your time and money.

[00:54:19] And I already referred to it earlier, but I am doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer

[00:54:24] rewatch with Cara and still slaying a Buffyverse podcast.

[00:54:29] And we're having a blast doing it.

[00:54:31] So we'd love to have more people join us and participate in the feedback and everything.

[00:54:37] One thing that I did kind of think that the doctor said that was funny

[00:54:43] or not the doctor, but the vet said that was funny.

[00:54:46] He says something about you don't want to be a father.

[00:54:49] It's too much responsibility.

[00:54:50] I was like, oh, this is like the exact situation that just the words in

[00:54:52] right now, he doesn't want to be a father.

[00:54:55] It's true. Yeah. OK.

[00:54:56] But speaking of fathers, I did start listening to a non-podcast,

[00:55:01] a podcast called The Dumb Dads and you might have seen them on Instagram.

[00:55:06] They're their parent, their dad, parent or press conferences are,

[00:55:11] I think really, really funny.

[00:55:13] And they basically look like two of the dads from the league.

[00:55:18] They just they just look worn down and just exhausted all the time.

[00:55:24] And it's it's pretty comical.

[00:55:27] Not to show, not to, you know, to push non-podcast shows,

[00:55:32] but that when that one I am finding entertaining as the father of a

[00:55:36] of a couple of young children.

[00:55:38] Yeah, I bet.

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[00:56:12] And then I have to wash my clothes and then draw my clothes and then wear my clothes

[00:56:16] and then wash them again and it never ends.