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Speaker 1: Hi, Jamie McGuire, aka Smiley, and you're listening
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to the.
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Speaker 2: What is From Cast on the Podcast Good.
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Speaker 1: Network.
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It's a bad spot.
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The bell is ringing Time to go home before it gets dark, hmm.
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Speaker 2: Ah Welcome to the show.
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My name is Alex.
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Speaker 4: And I'm Lizzie, i'm ready.
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Speaker 2: And we've got our talismans, we've got our
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lunchbox, we know it's Sunday, is from day and we are talking
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Episode 7, season 2, the Belly of the Beast.
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And, for those of you that are joining us on the internet,
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Why don't you hit that subscribe button?
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show and what is going on.
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So, lizzie, having talked to you all day, what was your
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thoughts on this first episode?
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What was your first thoughts on the episode?
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Speaker 4: That it was a peaceful day to get some work
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done Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: My first thoughts were that I was excited to see
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the dissection of Smiley.
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I love dissection a lot.
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That's one of my favorite science things.
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I loved the fever dreams or the withdrawal dreams that Marielle
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had.
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And then my favorite thing and I didn't expect to ever see this
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on anything or have someone else say the same thing, But
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when you lay back in the tub and submerge your ears in how it
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sounds like the ocean, sometimes I will do that because I get
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homesick and I want ocean sounds .
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Speaker 2: Well, i'm telling you right now you got yourself some
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ocean sounds.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, i mean I don't know if those were all the
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answers, but there were so many things in this episode And one
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of them, one of the characters, said something and I had an
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epiphany.
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Okay, and I didn't wait to get to that.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get to that and much, much more.
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But let's first dive into the episode, and the first thing I
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want to talk about is the new day, because we have a dead
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Smiley on the ground And they're all looking at him, like
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through the window, like is he moving?
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't even want to go outside.
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Speaker 2: Well, i like the next one.
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Is he still dead?
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Yeah, and you know, one of my partners from Yellowjackets,
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rennie, has the best comment of all, crazy episode Don't bring
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monsters inside for an autopsy.
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Well, you know what?
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They didn't listen to you, rennie, but that's okay, that's
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okay.
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Speaker 4: I would have been right there with Christy and
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Boyd wanting to rip him open, because I mean, that is science
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at work.
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Sometimes you have to dive into those things.
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I read a long time ago that they did find life on Mars and
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they put hydrogen peroxide on it and it killed it.
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So then there was no life on Mars.
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Speaker 2: Right, exactly, and this is the thing about all of
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this is, you know, the dissection before we even get to
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that.
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I want to talk about Kenny and his feelings towards all of this
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, and he does a great job of.
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He makes some really good points, because he wants nothing
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to do with this thing, he wants to burn it, he wants to do
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everything he can possibly do but to not bring it in, and it
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sounds like he's making a good case.
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But at the other side, they've got to create, they have to
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figure out a way to create a weapon for this, against these
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monsters.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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So the only way to really do that is to open it up and see
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how it ticks.
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That's not the first time an alien being has been dissected
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by humans wondering what the heck you know how this thing
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ticks and what its weak spots are.
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And that's what they need to know, because they certainly
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can't interact with them at night.
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Absolutely.
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And now, unless they're able to cut them open and put worms
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inside their bodies, what the interesting thing will be is
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whether or not the monsters would learn from that.
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You know, they all looked at him and they looked curious, but
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they didn't do anything And it's not like they investigated
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while they were standing there, they just walked away And I
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don't know that it was.
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I don't know that it wasn't giving off some sort of signal.
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True Like they sent each other and they knew that the life
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force was gone.
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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is you know Rennie
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also points out why don't they just do it outside, behind
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everybody?
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And I understand, you know, they didn't want a lot of ruckus
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, they didn't want a lot of people coming back, but they
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could have found an area of the forest to kind of do it.
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Speaker 4: No, no, because what happens is that it's not like
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they had a sterile environment, but they had an area where there
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wasn't cross breezes, there weren't things flying around,
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there wouldn't be bugs that could fly into the chest cavity.
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They needed something, they needed to control the area and
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which to do that.
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Autopsy outside would not You know if there's no other place
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to do it.
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That's one thing.
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Right, they had the option of indoors, So that's where they
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did it.
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I thought it was interesting that they weren't using anything
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to mop anything up.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah.
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So they get ready for the autopsy.
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Kenny is protesting the entire time.
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He wants to burn the body.
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Like you said, boyd and Christie want to study it
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because that's what they need to do, and Christie, being the
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scientific mind there, decides that they really need to go for
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this and see what's in there, and so let's see.
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Speaker 2: What they try to do, what she does, is typical
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autopsy.
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they take the chest cavity off, they get it off, and one of the
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things that was really kind of interesting about this is that,
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first off, it was human.
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Speaker 4: Oh, you're skipping over something very important,
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okay.
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So he makes the first incision the reaction from the body.
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Speaker 2: And that's very common.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, i mean not that I've well, i mean my
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dog let out his last breath once and it freaked me out.
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I thought he had come back to life.
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I really did.
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Speaker 2: When I was on a CPR.
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it was like 20 minutes later and all of a sudden the person
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decided to flatulate out of nowhere and it scared the crap
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out of us.
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Otherwise noticed part And it scared the crap out of us.
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Speaker 4: Oh my God, you got to remember.
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I would be farting while I was dead.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, to your point.
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I mean, i didn't miss that because it you know, when she
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didn't make that incision she hit a nerve.
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They all freaked out.
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Speaker 4: And it was awesome.
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It was awesome.
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It was so awesome, I mean it was a jump scare, but that that
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was one of my favorite jump scares ever And I'm not a fan of
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jump scares, but that was awesome.
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It was.
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it was perfect, utterly perfect .
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Speaker 2: Well, i'm going to tell you right now we got a, we
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got a text or a message from Patrick Baxter and he's one of
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the FX guys And he was.
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He was just giving us some behind the scenes stuff And I
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mean I called him Peter last week, but I'm going to tell you
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right now, this guy has done it all And the amount of time that
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it takes to do a lot of these things, you don't realize as a
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viewer, and he is definitely, and his team are definitely
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craftsmen or craftsmen.
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Well, you know and don't get enough credit.
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Speaker 4: They don't get enough credit from working on set.
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I you know, it's the people behind the camera that create
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this wonderland, And there is no small job.
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Now you are working on set, what you do is integral to what is
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going on in front of that camera And everyone is an artist in
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their own way And it just blows my mind the worlds that you know
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crews create.
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It's just truly works of art.
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And I've you know, recently I sat in the makeup trailer while
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extensive prosthetics were being applied and watching the
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patients and the care and the attention to detail that goes
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into that stuff is just truly amazing.
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Yeah, because it's not necessarily, like you know, with
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close up work like that, it's not necessarily that they're
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just putting a mask over his head and calling it a day, like
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that face is built up from.
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You know Jamie McGuire, who plays Smiley it's built up from
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his face, and you know where the monsters all look similar
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because of our facial facial structure being so unique to us.
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Each one of those monsters has subtle nuances that are unique
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to that person, so it's just fabulous work.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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And you know going back to Kenny really quick, somebody had
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just tweeted to us on our Twitter, this guy, brian Spears.
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You know, the problem with Kenny's thinking is you never
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get answers.
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And I think to your point.
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I know I'm going back a little bit, but I just wanted to read
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it.
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He's not in the right place where he needs to be.
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I mean a third year medical student, you know she's done
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dissection, she understands the intricacies of it, so it's not a
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big deal.
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Yes, is it scary?
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Of course it's scary, but at the same time they want to see
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what's inside and they have to because they need to create a
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weapon.
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And it's just really neat to see these FX guys or these
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prosthetics people do their deal , because it was frigging
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amazing from day to night.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, i mean, the thing with Kenny is that he just
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couldn't.
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Well, until he did, he couldn't get on board with it And you
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know it got to the point where he had to have a conversation
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with Christie And that meant telling her how he felt I could
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be wrong.
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I don't recall him saying I love you to her prior to this.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.
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Speaker 4: And you know I've been going back through the
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episodes the last couple of days but I've been hitting fast
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forward because I'm looking for very particular things And I
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didn't stop really for anything.
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But one thing I noticed and I think it was the first or the no
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, it was the second episode, when Christie meets him in the
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diner and she comes in and they just kind of twiddle fingers
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with each other.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know it was very intimate, without it being over
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the top.
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It wasn't necessarily something friends do, really, but you
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know he needed to say something to her.
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He just needed to clear that air.
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I'm happy for you.
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But hello, i was here.
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You know, i love you, i matter And you know, because she's
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taken aback when he's saying I can't do this with you And she's
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like wait a minute, what about you and me?
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I thought it was you and me against all of this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that changed.
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Speaker 4: You know, i mean, she meant, she meant no matter what
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, and he meant until Marielle showed up.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's also just a little heart and it's been
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like a hot second, so you got to give the guys some Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And he felt a little thrown over, although it's not
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like what she really did, but you know, and she's been busy so
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it wasn't like she could come talk to him.
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But you know, he's gone through a lot with separating from Boyd.
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I mean, that is still super recent.
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So when they, when they start the process, just before the
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start the process, he comes in and joins them and they saw the
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chest.
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Oh yeah, and that's when Kenny shows up, when they go to take
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the sternum off, and I don't know, i didn't expect what we
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saw, you know, like all these dried up organs in there.
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Speaker 2: Neither did, neither did Christie.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I didn't.
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I don't know what I was thinking we'd find in there,
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maybe a little robot guy like working the controls or
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something like men in black.
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But I didn't expect it to be, expect it to be dried up.
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And you know, of course I start thinking about it.
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I'm like all right, so what runs this, this machine?
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What's running it?
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Something has to be running it.
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And you know she starts looking through the body.
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You know it's got all the same anatomical organs that we do,
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except for it has nothing liquidy to move things around.
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So if the worms went into the body and deactivated that body,
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where are the worms?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's my next question.
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And because, at the end of the day, the only thing that was
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viable in terms of vial was the gallbladder.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it was viable.
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Speaker 2: Not viable, but the only thing that liquid was the
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gallbladder.
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Speaker 4: Was the gallbladder.
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But you know they didn't, they didn't go into the brain, they
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didn't look inside the head.
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So that's another option, Perhaps.
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I mean gosh, it's like what is powering that body to move.
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And the interesting thing about the gallbladder, you know, the
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gallbladder is where bile is stored, And so the bile will.
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you know, the liver makes the bile.
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The gallbladder sits next to the liver, And so when we start
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eating and food is hitting our small intestine, that's when the
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bile goes to the small intestine, because bile is like
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an acid.
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So it starts breaking down that food so that we can digest it
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and make use of everything that's in that food or hopefully
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everything And then, you know, things go on their merry way,
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And so what happens is like the gallbladder is all filled with
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bile When we start eating.
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It just squeezes until all the bile is into the first intestine
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I mean not the first intestine, Well, yeah, I guess so the
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small intestine And then the liver starts making more bile to
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go back into the liver, to the gallbladder.
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So of course, now I'm having thoughts about the movie seven
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and the gluttony guy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know That's that I don't watch that
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movie, Okay so anyway.
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Speaker 4: So anyway, like it made me wonder what was up with
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the bile in the gallbladder, because if it's acidic, are the
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worms agreeable to that, or not, and again, we still need to
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find out where the worms went.
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Yeah, we don't know if they went in there, but maybe the worms
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were dissolved in the bile.
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Maybe that's a way to get rid of those worms.
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So at any rate, they collect the bile and Christie goes and
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hangs out with Marielle and comforts her, and then Kenny and
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Boyd start to go And Boyd is like Hey, you know, i still have
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that Badge, if you're interested in Kenny's like, been
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there, done that.
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Speaker 2: Well, i think he's not that he's on the fence, he's
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just not ready to come back just yet.
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Speaker 4: Maybe, maybe not.
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Maybe he's done, Maybe he likes wearing pants that actually you
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know hit the top of his shoes?
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I'm not sure, But you know I do like because I was like looking
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at him.
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I'm like, Oh my God, he thinks he's Briggs in lethal weapon
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because he's just walking around in like the shirt, He's got the
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gun and the pair of jeans and stuff.
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That I was like, Oh, you know, back when it was okay to love
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Mel Gemson, but at any rate, Yeah, So after, after, they kind
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of make their back, their back, friends again, for lack of a
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better term they're on good, they're on good, they're on
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speaking terms.
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They're on good terms, yeah, yeah.
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So they're kind of just going off and going to do their day at
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this point.
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So let's see.
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Speaker 2: Then we go to the Lou family slash Matthew's family
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and Mrs Lou is starting to make pancakes And I love this scene
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because they're arguing over when to flip them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you defer to Mrs Lou.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't defer to the chef.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, i mean, mrs Lou knows what she's doing in that
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kitchen, because she certainly keeps an entire town happy, so I
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would just want to learn to cook from her.
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Oh my God, cooking lessons with Mrs Lou, mrs Lou's kitchen.
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Speaker 2: Mrs Lou's cooking book.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But in that, in that scene, you know, they, the kids
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want to go see, go up to colony house, and Jim's like no, and
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then Tapa there's like yes, and then, and then the two of them,
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he pulls them aside and they go outside and they start talking
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about how to parent.
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Basically, you know what?
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Speaker 4: well, I don't know that it was so much parenting,
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it was just being a united front .
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I think you just said united front and you're a parent.
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You probably have had that problem where you're saying one
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thing and Liz is saying another and you know the kid is like,
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you know Lucy's like, hmm, which one works out for me?
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Speaker 2: Yeah Well, she always asks well, mom said it's okay
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if it's okay with you.
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No, it's not, I don't do that Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean I'm lucky I just have Charlotte, i don't
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have to bounce anything off of anybody.
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What I say goes, and it's usually whatever Charlotte wants
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Pretty much.
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Yeah, That's, that's where it rolls around here, But at any
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rate, um they, he's feeling disrespected because he's openly
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being disagreed with and after I don't know.
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I feel like after it's not the house collapsing, it's after the
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whole radio thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And I've, i've, i've, i've, i've, i've, i've, i've,
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I've, i've, i've.
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I've changed a little bit And I've sensed a change between him
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and Tabitha.
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Tabitha's just gone through something in those tunnels with
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Victor.
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She's changed, we know she's changed, she's having visions of
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terrifying.
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No fucking terrifying children.
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Yes, which we're going to talk about later.
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Yeah, and I think, like at the end of last season, what was
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happening is that at the beginning they were on the road
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to divorce, then they ended up on the road to from, and now,
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you know, then they, they just kind of went through this
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Renaissance where they started to fall in love again and
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remember what they loved about each other And they you know
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we're talking about Thomas and you know probably things that
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they hadn't said.
00:23:04
You know, their family was very much fractured And now it seems
00:23:10
like, since the radio and Tabitha being in those caves,
00:23:17
something is very different with both of them.
00:23:20
Yes, jim is convinced that someone's listening, that
00:23:25
there's someone out there, and Tabitha is seeing things that
00:23:31
she doesn't know if they're there or not.
00:23:33
You know, after last week with Jade finding her, it almost
00:23:38
feels like they're not there.
00:23:39
But I think, i think it's just different for every person.
00:23:46
Like they, they see whatever it is they're seeing And it's
00:23:50
actually there.
00:23:51
So you know, ethan wants to go hang out with Victor.
00:23:56
Right, which is understandable, yeah.
00:24:00
And Jim is like I know that guy is creepy and I don't want you
00:24:04
around him, which, on the surface, yeah, victor's creepy,
00:24:09
you know, like who you know, but Tabitha quickly reminds him
00:24:15
that creepy Victor saved Julie's life.
00:24:18
Speaker 2: Among other things, And it saved her life too.
00:24:21
Speaker 4: Yeah And saved her life.
00:24:23
So you know, if it wasn't for Victor, the the female Matthews
00:24:29
members might not still be around.
00:24:32
So Jim's not really happy about this.
00:24:36
But the kids go up to go up to which McCallie McCallie house,
00:24:42
yeah.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: And then Ethan.
00:24:44
Ethan talks to Victor And and it's funny because they're like
00:24:48
two, they're like two eight or nine year olds.
00:24:51
Speaker 4: And I love them together.
00:24:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great.
00:24:56
Speaker 4: Because they relate, you know, nino to Nino And
00:25:04
they're on the same page.
00:25:05
And Victor has already commented, you know, in the
00:25:12
junkyard, the car junkyard episode that the trees look
00:25:16
strange Right And so, and we know that just days ago he was
00:25:21
measuring tree distances and had concluded that they had moved.
00:25:26
So when Ethan comes upon him he is still doing that work And I
00:25:32
don't know if maybe he's doing it daily to see if there's a
00:25:36
change from day to day, or if he's just checking his work
00:25:40
Maybe he also says something.
00:25:42
Speaker 2: He also says something to Ethan anytime
00:25:46
there's change, there's bad things that happen.
00:25:48
Speaker 4: There's bad things that happen to people, And yet
00:25:52
that's the other thing.
00:25:53
He tells Ethan to leave him alone And Ethan's like but we're
00:25:57
friends.
00:25:58
And he's like that's exactly why you need to not be here with
00:26:02
me, because bad things happen to people that get close to me.
00:26:05
And so what he has found is that if he keeps the people that
00:26:12
he cares about at a distance from him, then they stand a
00:26:18
better chance at survival.
00:26:21
Speaker 2: I just want to interrupt you for one second.
00:26:22
Taz says Victor's the keeper of the records recording the data,
00:26:28
and that's really an important point.
00:26:32
The question is will it?
00:26:36
will everybody start talking to each other?
00:26:41
And I think it's starting to happen.
00:26:44
Are you asking me?
00:26:46
No, i'm just saying in general, it's just in general.
00:26:49
Speaker 4: It is starting to happen.
00:26:50
We do see it in this episode.
00:26:52
Speaker 2: But But even still, like when, when going back to
00:26:56
Tabitha and Jim, he keeps saying I heard something, i heard
00:27:01
something, and she's like, it's like she didn't believe him kind
00:27:05
of in a way, in a way, and and it's just like because she
00:27:10
didn't hear it And although she wants him to believe that she
00:27:14
was down there with Victor and everything was and Victor saved
00:27:17
the day.
00:27:17
So I mean there's there's a couple of different things that
00:27:20
are going on here.
00:27:20
I think Jim, jim is on this, this island, about this voice,
00:27:26
and the only person that knows it is Donna And she wants
00:27:30
everything quiet.
00:27:31
Speaker 4: So Right, and it seems like everyone he mentions
00:27:35
it to kind of looks at him like he's nuts.
00:27:38
But at any rate, back to Victor .
00:27:41
You know Victor has found that the further he keeps people away
00:27:46
from him, the better chance of survival that they have.
00:27:49
And Victor is used to this kind of world because for a long
00:27:54
time he was there by himself until other people started
00:27:57
coming Right.
00:27:58
But Ethan is used to a world where friends hang out together
00:28:02
and they play with each other and they talk about things with
00:28:05
one another.
00:28:06
And the thing about it is that Victor, although he's compelled
00:28:12
to get Ethan away from him, he's also dying for someone his own
00:28:19
age.
00:28:19
And so he he points out to Ethan hey, that orange marker
00:28:24
did not work.
00:28:25
Speaker 2: Oh, I know He's just a pain in the ass about the damn
00:28:28
orange marker.
00:28:29
Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter .
00:28:29
Like the thing is like I really hate when that happens, why I
00:28:35
hate markers, why I don't want to share markers with little
00:28:39
kids.
00:28:39
I am all about the colored pencils because they never dry
00:28:43
up, But I was reading something and I think it was on one of the
00:28:49
from Facebook pages, and it was talking about orange being the
00:28:53
color of autumn.
00:28:54
I mean, alex, you and I know what autumn looks like The
00:28:58
brilliant golds and the brilliant reds, like those deep
00:29:04
reds, and then the orange, like that orange color.
00:29:09
I had a tree outside my window at my favorite house that I
00:29:13
lived in in Massachusetts And in the fall it was the most
00:29:20
magnificent living thing on the planet And I loved it.
00:29:24
That orange was so vibrant, and so is it a coincidence that
00:29:31
it's the orange one that's dried up.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: Well, as you say, there's no coincidences in the
00:29:36
show, right?
00:29:38
Speaker 4: Because the orange, the tree, not the trees, the
00:29:41
leaves are orange and they dry up and they fall off.
00:29:45
So fromville is experiencing an autumn.
00:29:51
Speaker 2: They are.
00:29:51
So, so we have to be on the lookout.
00:29:55
We definitely have to be on the lookout, but we got to watch.
00:30:00
Speaker 4: But he also said this has never happened again And
00:30:04
that when things change in the in from that it's usually bad,
00:30:11
But Ethan's like well, maybe the leaves could be good.
00:30:17
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's always looking at the thing in a
00:30:21
good way.
00:30:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even though he doesn't want to be on
00:30:25
the quest anymore, he is still very optimistic.
00:30:28
Speaker 2: Oh, I just want to pump this up because I think
00:30:30
you'll enjoy that.
00:30:31
Why don't you read that one?
00:30:33
Speaker 4: Great A live stream on from I love this show, maggie
00:30:38
, i love this show.
00:30:39
I love this show.
00:30:42
I was the first one to fall in love with it.
00:30:46
Speaker 2: So, that said, now we're going back to colony house
00:30:50
.
00:30:50
But before we do, boy tells Ellis, you need to go home so
00:30:55
that nobody deals with the, with smiley and everything else.
00:30:58
Right, so you go home, you deal with that, you deal with colony
00:31:03
house.
00:31:03
When we get to colony house, we deal with our favorite girl,
00:31:08
who should be nominated for an Emmy, and we are going to be her
00:31:11
torch bearer and her favorite pain in the ass husband I mean
00:31:16
other person which is Dale, her real life husband, yeah, who is
00:31:21
the sweetest man evidently in the world, and they have a
00:31:24
little conversation And I just love this for so many fronts.
00:31:28
They must have enjoyed this scene so much because they just
00:31:33
look like they were having a ball.
00:31:34
They do look like they're having a ball.
00:31:37
Speaker 4: They do look like.
00:31:38
They make perfect scene partners.
00:31:40
And you know Dale is worrying about what's going to happen to
00:31:44
him, like is he going to end up in the box.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: I know he's like we're, not them.
00:31:49
We don't put people in the box.
00:31:53
Speaker 4: And I love what she says to him.
00:31:55
You know, because he's he's trying to advocate that.
00:31:59
You know, people have got to make the hard choices sometimes.
00:32:03
You know, because he doesn't want the bus people in the house
00:32:06
And he's like sometimes people have to make the hard choices,
00:32:09
and she's like you.
00:32:10
Better watch out and be careful what you wish for, because you
00:32:13
might be part of those hard choices.
00:32:16
You could be part of those hard choices, and the thing is, when
00:32:19
it comes to Dale, i'm not so certain that the choice is going
00:32:23
to be all that hard Oh no, it's not, It's not I.
00:32:27
Speaker 2: Just before we go on, i just want to say, for those
00:32:29
of you that are here, if you want to share it out, you can
00:32:32
hit that, that subscribe button again If you if you haven't
00:32:36
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00:32:40
content, you're going to get it first.
00:32:42
I mean, we have been doing, we've been on Instagram and
00:32:46
we've been on Twitter and we've been on TikTok, but our, our
00:32:51
YouTube channel has been crazy.
00:32:54
I mean that that Molly Dunsworth thing is up to almost
00:32:59
7000 views already, which is unbelievable.
00:33:03
And you know we're just plugging along.
00:33:07
We're trying to get to 1000 subscribers by the by the end of
00:33:11
the season.
00:33:12
So we're at 300 now.
00:33:13
So if you guys can help us by telling a friend about the show
00:33:16
or anything else, but you know, getting back to getting back to
00:33:20
Donna and Dale, the one thing that I think is really funny is
00:33:23
she locks the door and there's a woman outside with a gun.
00:33:26
Nobody gets in and nobody gets out.
00:33:29
I don't care what happens and like yep, yeah.
00:33:31
And then Ellis comes in and and , of course, the mother I don't
00:33:37
know, it just seems like both on and off screen.
00:33:41
She's kind of like the mother of from.
00:33:44
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, i mean it just seems like the colony
00:33:49
house.
00:33:50
I mean she, i feel like, especially after colony house
00:33:55
fell apart, i feel like she found a purpose that she felt
00:34:01
super comfortable with, where she could run that house and she
00:34:05
could take care of people, she could help them stay alive And
00:34:10
she could promote things that she believed in, like love and
00:34:16
beer and pot and whatever I mean .
00:34:19
Speaker 2: I mean, she's really the heart of the show.
00:34:24
I mean I don't know what, i don't know what the people in
00:34:27
the audience think, but give us your.
00:34:29
We want to hear some Donna love .
00:34:31
You know, i mean, that's what it really is.
00:34:34
Speaker 4: Anyone I talked to that watches this show loves
00:34:39
Donna and loves her.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: And the fact that, because we just got some tweets
00:34:44
from, from people that are trying to it's becoming Emmy
00:34:48
season and stuff like that, they're trying to get Harold to
00:34:51
get nominated again.
00:34:52
But you know what, as much as I want Harold to be nominated and
00:34:56
I do because I think he's doing a great job Donna has taken the
00:34:59
show, donna has stolen the show this season And you know, it
00:35:03
just comes down to one thing Elizabeth Saunders is killing it
00:35:08
, killing the season.
00:35:09
And that's what it's down.
00:35:11
And that's, and she slays.
00:35:13
Speaker 4: She slays, Liz Slays.
00:35:15
So Alice, you know, gets brought in and made comfortable
00:35:21
up in the layer.
00:35:22
Donna has a conversation with Bacca, which it was nice to see
00:35:28
Bacca in street clothes and out of her uniform.
00:35:31
Speaker 2: Right.
00:35:33
Speaker 4: That only took a day, but that that's pretty cool,
00:35:35
and the thing is she was at work , she wasn't traveling, most
00:35:38
likely with a change of clothes, right.
00:35:40
Oh, she had to go through that storage closet And the thing
00:35:43
about it, like you know, she's like the leader of her bus
00:35:47
people, like she has a responsibility towards those
00:35:51
people I almost said towards those kids, because I was
00:35:54
thinking about how I was in the classroom or even how I am now
00:35:58
with my kids, my kids, yeah, but the thing about it is that
00:36:03
Bacca and the bus people experienced something that was
00:36:07
horrendous in that kitchen And it was that they were made to
00:36:12
feel that they were other Yes.
00:36:15
And that, especially where they are, that is a super
00:36:19
uncomfortable and scary feeling.
00:36:21
And Donna said look, you are one of us.
00:36:25
And the thing is when someone I mean I don't know whenever
00:36:31
you're coming into a new group of people and you're trying to
00:36:35
find your place, and someone says that to you, it feels I
00:36:40
don't know.
00:36:41
it's just awesome to have that It didn't.
00:36:43
Speaker 2: It didn't help that the two people that were being
00:36:48
accused were both black and he was white, and I know that
00:36:54
doesn't seem like it's a big deal But at the same time, in
00:36:58
the sense of it's even more, put another layer on top of that,
00:37:04
because you're in a seriously crazy world.
00:37:08
But they're coming from the real world where there is a lot
00:37:13
of that kind of tension, and you got a guy coming out of the
00:37:15
knife with you.
00:37:15
So there's a lot of layers to it that make it even crazier.
00:37:20
They don't know Dale.
00:37:21
They don't know if he's just a lot.
00:37:24
Speaker 4: No, he could be the deranged guy.
00:37:26
I mean, he's like swinging the knife around, but he's not very
00:37:30
conscious of the knife.
00:37:32
He's doing that one day and you know, the next day he could be
00:37:36
hitting on back to right if nothing happened.
00:37:39
But I loved it.
00:37:41
You know, when Donna walked away from back to back to, had a
00:37:44
frowny face on back back to was like, and I was like, oh my God
00:37:49
, i got out, so I'm.
00:37:53
I had some thoughts about that, but at any rate, basically,
00:38:01
donna, donna's happy place is running around colony house
00:38:06
putting out the fires.
00:38:07
Speaker 5: Yep.
00:38:09
Speaker 4: So Let's see.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: Then she goes to her second favorite place in Colony
00:38:17
House, which is the gardening area, the greenhouse.
00:38:21
Speaker 4: You're getting ahead of yourself.
00:38:23
Speaker 2: I'm not, but okay.
00:38:26
Speaker 4: The thing about it is that she goes up to see Fatima
00:38:31
and Ellis and brings them food.
00:38:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know You talked about that.
00:38:35
You talked about that When was.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: I here.
00:38:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you said that she went up, she comforted
00:38:40
them, but you want to go over it .
00:38:43
That's fine.
00:38:44
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:38:45
I don't remember.
00:38:46
It was so long ago.
00:38:47
But she blames herself for Ellis getting stabbed because
00:38:58
she wasn't there for that.
00:38:59
She wasn't there to control everything.
00:39:02
but she also plays down the whole food shortage thing by
00:39:06
saying it's minor and temporary.
00:39:08
Right.
00:39:10
And the thing is, given that they don't know what's happening
00:39:12
from one day to the next, they don't know that anything is
00:39:15
minor or temporary.
00:39:16
Then we're down in because Fatima's sitting there with
00:39:25
Ellis.
00:39:25
she's not saying anything about her predicament.
00:39:28
but then she goes down and finds Donna in the greenhouse
00:39:32
Right And Donna is still trying to resurrect and save whatever
00:39:38
plants that she can.
00:39:39
It seems like if it's not a food plant, it's doing fine.
00:39:44
Right.
00:39:45
But Fatima tells her that she's pregnant And I loved, loved,
00:39:55
loved Donna's response, of course, You're taking a frowny
00:40:00
face, Alex.
00:40:01
Speaker 5: No, I'm not, you just had a frowny lip out.
00:40:03
You stuck your lip out.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: No, i mean she's pregnant.
00:40:09
Now the reason why I guess I had the frowny face was is
00:40:13
because she's very concerned about the pregnancy, not because
00:40:18
she's pregnant in from Bill, but she can't have kids
00:40:24
supposedly, and now she's pregnant.
00:40:26
So there's a lot of angst.
00:40:29
There's a lot of layers to this .
00:40:32
Speaker 4: There is, and the thing about it is that Fatima is
00:40:37
only looking at worst case scenario things.
00:40:40
Even Christie's like look, you've got a third year medical
00:40:44
student, i'm a doctor, practically You could have been
00:40:47
here without someone like me, so she's got that going for her.
00:40:52
I mean, christie has learned a lot about emergency medicine.
00:40:59
Speaker 2: And she's got Merilee , who's a pediatric nurse as
00:41:04
well So it went, she's clean.
00:41:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
00:41:06
So once you know like she's gonna be in good hands and who
00:41:11
knows who's gonna show up in the next nine months, but the thing
00:41:14
to keep remembering, cause I'm like, oh yeah, all of a sudden
00:41:18
she just pops up pregnant.
00:41:19
that's quick, she's been there for a year right, and Alice has
00:41:28
been there for several months and they have fallen in love.
00:41:32
I mean, alice gave her the best proposal, like tears, and she's
00:41:42
not focusing on anything that's positive.
00:41:44
She's, you know, like Donna says, you found the love of your
00:41:48
life in this God-versaic and hell hole, right, and then, on
00:41:52
top of it, you're gonna have a baby together, like you guys are
00:41:58
doing great, like this is what everybody dreams of to you know,
00:42:03
to meet someone, fall in love, have a family Maybe not
00:42:07
everybody, but a lot of people do.
00:42:08
And what does Donna say to her?
00:42:14
Speaker 2: A miracle is just the other side of a nightmare, and
00:42:18
I have to-.
00:42:19
Speaker 4: That sounds like it needs to be a song.
00:42:21
Speaker 2: It's just a beautiful-.
00:42:23
Speaker 5: It's just the other side of a nightmare.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: I just wanna pop this one up.
00:42:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, the Crominocle likes our podcast.
00:42:33
No, loves our podcast.
00:42:35
Speaker 2: Well, i'm glad the Crominocle does, because it's an
00:42:37
important point to the story.
00:42:40
Speaker 4: Did you know that the Crominocle is actually female?
00:42:43
Speaker 2: How did you know that ?
00:42:46
Speaker 4: I dissected it.
00:42:47
No, like I said, i've been going through season one and
00:42:54
Ethan refers to the Crominocle as a she.
00:42:59
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:42:59
Speaker 4: And it made it very cute to me.
00:43:01
Speaker 2: Well, that being said But that little.
00:43:03
Speaker 4: Crominocle was adorable.
00:43:05
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that other point that you have a
00:43:07
little bit later Crominocle but I promise we will, but right
00:43:11
now we're at.
00:43:11
The miracle is just the other side of a nightmare, and the one
00:43:15
thing about Fatima and you had a chance to talk to her a little
00:43:20
bit last week- Oh my God, I loved her.
00:43:24
Speaker 4: She was amazing.
00:43:25
Speaker 2: I didn't get to and I'm really upset about that
00:43:29
because I had to do some work.
00:43:30
But the thing about it is she's gonna try to answer some of
00:43:35
those questions.
00:43:35
She has changed so much this season and not for the better.
00:43:40
She is such a her emotions are so heavy compared to last year
00:43:48
where she was the upbeat optimistic.
00:43:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, very optimistic , very happy, go lucky.
00:43:58
Speaker 2: And it's all Jasmine's fault.
00:44:00
It is all Jasmine's fault.
00:44:01
Well, it's actually Jasmine's boyfriend's fault.
00:44:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was his fault.
00:44:06
It's so weak But this is a really quick turn of events.
00:44:13
But we know we live in the real world.
00:44:18
That happens.
00:44:19
Everything's going great, you're okay with things and all
00:44:23
of a sudden your week goes to hell And that's what's happening
00:44:29
to her.
00:44:29
She all this crap stuff shows up Like a bus full of people
00:44:34
come and she can't save the one some of them and she has to
00:44:39
watch them be devoured and listen to that And it's horrific
00:44:45
.
00:44:45
And then to find out.
00:44:48
I think if she had found out, that she was pregnant in season
00:44:52
one it would have been a good thing But given all the crap
00:44:57
that's happened, like that has just fallen from the sky, it is
00:45:01
not a good thing.
00:45:03
Speaker 2: No, it isn't.
00:45:03
But you know what?
00:45:05
I think you started to see it, obviously, when she was at the
00:45:10
post office, but when she was talking to Elgin, and it's just
00:45:13
gotten progressively worse.
00:45:15
Now we don't know when she started getting symptoms,
00:45:18
because you have to remember, folks, this season is only a
00:45:23
couple of days long, if a week, so we're not talking about a
00:45:27
long time.
00:45:28
Speaker 4: No, i mean she's been with Ellis at least maybe
00:45:33
probably a month, two months, and that's all it takes.
00:45:38
I mean it just takes that one perfect moment, but that's where
00:45:42
they're at, So yeah.
00:45:46
Speaker 2: Now let's get back to the bar.
00:45:49
Do you wanna go to the bar?
00:45:51
Speaker 4: I would love to go to the bar.
00:45:53
Speaker 2: And the one thing I wanna say about our one of our
00:45:56
favorite characters, jade, is we really haven't seen him that
00:46:00
much this year, the season.
00:46:03
Speaker 4: He's been flitting around.
00:46:04
I mean, he's been there.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: I mean he was playing the violin, but it just seems
00:46:09
like he's not been as active.
00:46:12
Speaker 4: I don't feel that way .
00:46:13
I think that he has been very active.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: He's had some pivotal things, like he goes to the car
00:46:20
graveyard with Victor You know, I think he I don't think he's
00:46:25
had as much face time, but the time he's had is important.
00:46:30
Speaker 4: I disagree, but I just want more Jade.
00:46:32
Speaker 2: I just need more Jade in my life, that's all.
00:46:34
That's all you want.
00:46:34
So Tabitha, yes, and from Knuckle the Jade is the official
00:46:41
bartender of From.
00:46:42
Took over from Tom.
00:46:44
yes, There was a vacancy.
00:46:46
Speaker 4: There was a vacancy.
00:46:46
So, Tabitha finds him at the bar and he is rebuilding the
00:46:54
stilt, because Tom was not an expert.
00:46:57
He was not an expert distiller.
00:47:00
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't.
00:47:01
Speaker 4: It's amazing that no one went blind.
00:47:04
Speaker 1: That's for sure.
00:47:07
Speaker 4: But they certainly got blinded by drink, and so
00:47:12
she's come to talk to him about things that he's seen, because
00:47:20
she knows that he's had some visions.
00:47:22
And Jade doesn't want to give it up easily, because I think
00:47:29
she asked him about the Civil War soldier because Jim had come
00:47:34
home and told her that he wigged out on him.
00:47:37
Speaker 5: Right.
00:47:39
Speaker 4: At any rate, he's like you.
00:47:41
Help me with the stilt and I'll tell you everything.
00:47:44
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he wants to help her.
00:47:46
Speaker 4: Well, he does want the help but he needs.
00:47:50
I think it kind of helps him think at the same time, because
00:47:57
what happens if he's telling one story in the front of his mind?
00:48:01
the back of his mind is working on this whole distillery system
00:48:05
that he's trying to set up.
00:48:07
So this serves a very good purpose for him.
00:48:11
But he tells her about the Civil War soldier And then she
00:48:18
talks about the fucking terrifying children that she's
00:48:21
seen, and she's only seeing children.
00:48:24
It's not necessarily the same children over and over, it's
00:48:28
different groupings of the children.
00:48:30
But she sees children And so he's like, if you help me, i'll
00:48:37
talk, but there's no yelling.
00:48:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I love that.
00:48:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the thing is like I was thinking about why
00:48:48
Jade was intent on fixing the stilt.
00:48:51
I mean, i think one reason was probably because it was
00:48:55
something that he could actually affect change with, but the
00:49:00
other thing is that I'm starting to wonder if his mind works
00:49:05
best in an altered state, because we had been watching him
00:49:12
constantly either getting higher or high and he's out of
00:49:19
his supply or he has no rolling papers or whatever, and now he's
00:49:27
fixing the still so that he can drink.
00:49:32
And it made me wonder how his genius, genius, genius works.
00:49:38
Is he a genius, or is he just damaged?
00:49:43
Speaker 2: So I think he's a little bit of both personally,
00:49:46
Yeah well, I mean, yeah, I mean.
00:49:48
I loved when they were talking about what she knows and what he
00:49:53
knows.
00:49:53
He showed you the picture.
00:49:55
Oh yeah, that's Victor in the background.
00:49:57
Speaker 4: Oh, it took me a little bit longer to get that
00:50:00
And I think it's because that's Jade He doesn't necessarily pay
00:50:04
attention to people.
00:50:06
Speaker 2: Right.
00:50:10
Speaker 4: And he tells her about the root cellar, he tells
00:50:13
her about the Civil War guy, he tells her about Christopher and
00:50:18
he was like that's the most terrifying thing ever.
00:50:19
Yeah, which I'm like.
00:50:22
I wonder why that was the most terrifying thing ever, Because I
00:50:28
thought the guy in the root cellar and the Civil War guy
00:50:32
with the dead bodies hanging on the trees were pretty terrifying
00:50:35
.
00:50:35
Speaker 2: I think the reason being is because of the symbol,
00:50:39
and it's been part of the whole thing.
00:50:44
Speaker 4: And the other thing is she notices that symbol now,
00:50:48
Well, not notices it now, she remembers seeing it from In the
00:50:53
basement, in the cave.
00:50:54
Speaker 2: My point being is they're starting to see.
00:50:58
Speaker 4: They're connecting on that.
00:50:59
Speaker 2: Exactly, they're connecting.
00:51:01
Speaker 4: He didn't mention the ventriloquist dummy, because it
00:51:08
was the symbol and then the dummy.
00:51:12
Speaker 2: Right.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: And I loved when he screamed at the thing, when it
00:51:15
screamed at him.
00:51:16
Speaker 2: Oh, i know he's getting aggressive.
00:51:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:51:19
But she sees the book and she says I know what this is, i know
00:51:24
where to find it.
00:51:24
Like she was as shocked to see it in that book as he was to
00:51:30
find out that it was real.
00:51:32
It wasn't something that he just imagined or he was seeing.
00:51:37
But the thing is, if that symbol is real, it's giving some
00:51:42
validity to the other things that he's seen.
00:51:45
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
00:51:46
Speaker 4: Now it calls that into question, because if one's
00:51:52
real, maybe the other thing is.
00:51:56
Speaker 2: No, I think it was an important scene because they
00:51:59
both have an experience.
00:52:01
She talked about the kids.
00:52:05
Speaker 4: And Not a lot though, just that he's.
00:52:09
Speaker 2: But, that she saw him , and then she talked about
00:52:11
Thomas, but the fact that she's starting to express.
00:52:14
Speaker 4: You know what I have an empathy for her.
00:52:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, you scared me there.
00:52:20
Speaker 4: Sorry, but the thing is we didn't see it in Jade
00:52:27
until that scene with him and Mrs.
00:52:30
Speaker 2: Li.
00:52:31
Speaker 4: Tian Chen.
00:52:32
This is the second time he's really shown some empathy that
00:52:38
there is a person in there.
00:52:41
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
00:52:44
Speaker 4: What if that's what's happening to him being there?
00:52:49
Speaker 2: Well, he's got to learn how to play nice with
00:52:51
other people, or else he's not going to survive, although he is
00:52:56
living in the bar now, and the fact that he's living in the bar
00:52:59
as opposed to Mrs Li's house says something.
00:53:05
Speaker 4: It tells me who just wants to be alone.
00:53:07
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, i don't think I
00:53:08
could live in a place by myself, alone, in that town.
00:53:14
No, i couldn't do it.
00:53:16
I couldn't do it, maggie.
00:53:19
What are we true about?
00:53:21
Because I'd love to know.
00:53:22
No, maggie said true, but I just don't know what we were
00:53:28
true about, what point?
00:53:31
But yeah, like I said, i think those two working together can
00:53:37
do a lot of damage in a good way , in terms of finding out what's
00:53:42
going on.
00:53:44
Speaker 4: They're having similar experiences, so I think
00:53:50
that's going to help move things along.
00:53:54
Speaker 2: I think the next place that we have to go is with
00:53:58
Mary Lee and Marielle Marielle and her withdrawal nightmare.
00:54:05
So while they're doing all this autopsy she wakes up.
00:54:13
she goes down the hall and all of a sudden she sees Smiley
00:54:17
who's alive, and then Boyd's trying to shoot at him and she's
00:54:24
having a friggin' nightmare.
00:54:25
The thing about this whole Smiley thing that is so
00:54:30
different is she heard the music box and she heard the music,
00:54:38
and I think that that's important to this story because
00:54:43
she does tell Christy at the end of the episode that she had
00:54:48
withdrawals.
00:54:49
she heard the music and she saw Smiley and he was trying to
00:54:53
attack her.
00:54:55
Speaker 4: She didn't have to tell Christy that she had
00:54:57
withdrawals, because Christy saw that.
00:55:01
Speaker 2: She said she had nightmares and that's what
00:55:02
happened.
00:55:03
She told her the whole story.
00:55:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, she did.
00:55:05
When we talked to Jamie, was it last week?
00:55:13
Speaker 2: It was last week.
00:55:13
Yeah, we're going to post that this week.
00:55:15
Speaker 4: Okay, because he hinted.
00:55:17
He's like it's not all.
00:55:20
That's not the end of it.
00:55:21
He hinted at that, but not saying that.
00:55:24
The thing is Marielle, out of nowhere, has this crazy dream
00:55:36
and it's very realistic.
00:55:37
She sees Smiley and then Boyd starts shooting at him.
00:55:44
She doesn't know that bullets don't work on these things.
00:55:48
Right In her dream that's what's happening.
00:55:51
Smiley's just like oh you know.
00:55:54
and he keeps advancing until the point where he's like right
00:55:59
in her face.
00:56:00
Right.
00:56:02
But she turns, she starts to hear the music and she turns and
00:56:07
she sees the music box.
00:56:08
I don't know if they're just using the same music box or
00:56:14
they're just.
00:56:14
It would be interesting if all the music boxes were different.
00:56:18
But it is not.
00:56:20
It is that same music box with the amputated leg and it's black
00:56:25
and it makes me want to get one and just paint it black and cut
00:56:29
the leg off and glue it right next to where she's turning.
00:56:33
But she's telling I mean she.
00:56:37
The thing is like if this was out in the real world and she
00:56:43
woke up and you know she was going through withdrawals and
00:56:47
she told someone this dream, they wouldn't, they'd just be
00:56:51
like oh, you know it's just like a fever dream.
00:56:53
But here it holds significance because Boyd had the experience
00:57:04
with the music box and at first they didn't know if it was real
00:57:08
or not.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: Right.
00:57:10
Speaker 4: And then they didn't know until Marielle.
00:57:13
Marielle saw the worms first.
00:57:17
Speaker 2: She was like oh my God.
00:57:21
Speaker 4: And so then you know, we have this conversation with
00:57:25
Julie and Elgin Elgin, sorry and Well, elgin says hey, can we go
00:57:33
talk?
00:57:33
Right, I think he kind of likes Julie.
00:57:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of a fire.
00:57:40
He likes Sarah and he wants he's going wherever the wind's
00:57:44
going.
00:57:44
Speaker 4: Well, sarah is crazy, so he was smart enough to take
00:57:48
her off the menu right away.
00:57:49
So, at any rate, they go down to the pool and they're standing
00:57:55
there and he tells her about Smiley which Julie hasn't really
00:58:01
seen Smiley and he's upset.
00:58:04
He's trying to discuss the dream he had when they were
00:58:09
pulling into town.
00:58:10
And I don't know about you, but I know I've definitely had some
00:58:16
prophetic dreams where I know I'm supposed to remember
00:58:21
something and I can't remember it Right And it's important.
00:58:26
Have you had?
00:58:27
that I mean I don't, i can't think of anything offhand, but I
00:58:31
can't tell you anything offhand specific, but I know it's
00:58:35
happened to me where the dream was important And I didn't.
00:58:42
you know, i don't have those high stakes like he does.
00:58:44
I mean, you know, given where he ended up.
00:58:47
I mean, those stakes are pretty high.
00:58:49
It's important for him to remember because he could solve
00:58:53
something in this puzzle show.
00:58:55
Maybe, So, Elgin, What was Elgin saying What?
00:59:03
What am I doing?
00:59:04
All right, Oh okay.
00:59:07
So, Elgin, you know he's trying to just basically confide in
00:59:13
her and maybe just say it out loud so that he's less crazy.
00:59:18
Speaker 2: Right.
00:59:19
Speaker 4: And I suggest to him that he go back to colony house
00:59:23
and take a bath, fill the tub up and then submerge his ears and
00:59:30
then just listen, because it sounds like the ocean Right.
00:59:34
And it's interesting.
00:59:36
I mean, I don't know about you, but I've done it, Like that's
00:59:39
like.
00:59:39
Speaker 2: I do.
00:59:39
I go to a float tank, so I do this all the time.
00:59:42
Speaker 4: Oh really.
00:59:43
Speaker 2: And it's the most calming.
00:59:45
It is very calming After the fact.
00:59:47
when he does it, somebody's trying to pull him down and try
00:59:50
to Push him down.
00:59:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'm proud of him.
00:59:53
I mean, i would stay like that If the water would just stay
00:59:58
warm.
00:59:58
I'd stay like that for hours.
01:00:00
Speaker 2: That's what a small tank is.
01:00:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's warm.
01:00:04
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:00:06
Speaker 4: That concerns me because other people are going
01:00:08
to get in it and they're going to bring their germs.
01:00:11
Speaker 2: Well no, they clean it.
01:00:13
Speaker 4: Right, i mean, then again I get into a cold pool and
01:00:20
a lot of bacteria just loves that temperature too.
01:00:23
But I can float.
01:00:25
Can you do the survival float?
01:00:27
Speaker 2: If I have to survive.
01:00:30
Speaker 4: Did you ever learn how to do the survival float in
01:00:33
the pool.
01:00:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:00:35
Speaker 4: Oh no, not that one.
01:00:36
Speaker 2: No, i mean, i can float.
01:00:39
Speaker 4: I can float for hours on my back and just float, and
01:00:46
my ears are submerged and I look up at the sky and it is It's
01:00:50
the most peaceful thing ever.
01:00:53
Speaker 2: And yes, daphne, you have to take a shower first.
01:00:55
Yes, you have to take a shower first before you go into the
01:00:59
salt tank, and then you take a shower afterwards.
01:01:01
Yeah, so Hold on The crominocle is spoken again.
01:01:08
Tabitha should talk to Boyd and tell him where the tunnels are,
01:01:12
so that they can go and try the new weapon.
01:01:15
Do you think the worms got?
01:01:18
Who knows?
01:01:19
We're going to find out.
01:01:20
I mean, we're going to find out where the worms are or if they
01:01:24
are getting possessed by Merrily or Elgin.
01:01:27
Good point, though.
01:01:31
Speaker 4: I wonder if they can survive outside of a host.
01:01:34
I'm kind of thinking they can't , since it went from Martin Well
01:01:40
, it went from something into Sarah, it went from Martin into
01:01:46
Boyd, into Smiley, so it makes me think that it needs some kind
01:01:51
of liquid host.
01:01:52
But then the only liquid we found in Smiley was bile, which
01:01:57
is acidic.
01:01:58
So I don't know if that's the answer either.
01:02:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's true.
01:02:06
Crominocle also goes on to say the creature appeared to Elgin.
01:02:12
In the end.
01:02:13
Look like Fatima.
01:02:14
I don't know about that.
01:02:16
Speaker 4: I might have to look back at that, but No, I can see
01:02:21
that It looked like a dried up Fatima.
01:02:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
01:02:27
Speaker 4: It just reminded me of a Mottigrow puppet or
01:02:29
something like that.
01:02:35
Speaker 2: No, no wait.
01:02:36
Speaker 4: That wasn't really happened.
01:02:38
Speaker 2: But then he also says Sarah didn't get worms, it was
01:02:43
different.
01:02:43
We don't know.
01:02:45
Speaker 4: I was just looking at that today, and not necessarily
01:02:50
the same worms that.
01:02:53
Speaker 2: We don't know what Sarah has.
01:02:55
Speaker 4: I was just looking at it today and they were like
01:02:57
long before it formed into words .
01:03:01
But maybe the worms can spell All right.
01:03:05
So where are we going next?
01:03:06
Speaker 2: Oh, the last thing that we're going to do, I
01:03:08
believe, is So Jim is just walking around town.
01:03:14
Speaker 4: No, he's not.
01:03:15
Speaker 2: Well, he's just standing there after the
01:03:16
conversation And then all of a sudden he sees a drone.
01:03:21
A drone will whiz and buy him, and we find out that it's
01:03:28
Randall who's on top of the bus because he's having his little
01:03:32
party.
01:03:32
He has his little party bus and he starts talking to Jim.
01:03:37
Speaker 4: Well, jim, he doesn't just start talking to Jim, he
01:03:41
buzzes Jim with the drone Right.
01:03:43
Speaker 2: He was joking around, and then they start talking.
01:03:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jim goes up to, because Jim sees that and
01:03:49
it's an idea.
01:03:50
And Jim, the first thing Jim does is he thanks him for
01:03:58
helping him.
01:03:59
And Randall says you're welcome , but goes directly into But you
01:04:07
got those two other people killed.
01:04:09
And Jim's like well, you didn't really have to say that, did
01:04:15
you?
01:04:15
You know like.
01:04:16
And he's like look, you just came and thanked me.
01:04:18
I said, hey, that's great, but that's not what he did, his.
01:04:24
The thing with Randall is he does not want to make friends
01:04:28
here.
01:04:28
He doesn't want anyone around him.
01:04:31
So the more he treats people like crap, the chances go up
01:04:35
that he's going to be left alone .
01:04:37
And that's all he wants is to be left alone.
01:04:40
But the next thing we know, jim's got him walking out down
01:04:45
to that road where the camper is And they both go into the
01:04:50
camper so Jim can get the antenna and starts talking about
01:04:56
putting the antenna on the drone.
01:04:57
And Jim calls him on his crap twice Because Jim's like take a
01:05:10
walk with me out into the woods.
01:05:11
So first, you know, he insults Jim by saying you got those two
01:05:17
guys killed, but then he calls Jim a pervert.
01:05:20
He's like a pervert.
01:05:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, because he's like oh, can you walk with
01:05:23
me down to the road?
01:05:24
And he's like dude, you don't even know who I am.
01:05:26
I'm not trying to be a pervert, i'm just trying to, you know.
01:05:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, i mean Randall.
01:05:32
It didn't work with the first thing.
01:05:35
So Randall goes and pulls a higher card on Jim And Jim's
01:05:40
like not going to be dissuaded, because he wants that, the drone
01:05:47
, so he can get his antenna higher up into the sky.
01:05:50
Let's see They as they're walking.
01:05:55
Jim is telling him about experiments that have been done,
01:06:01
the ones that have been declassified, and then comments
01:06:05
like if this is what we know about the ones that they've
01:06:08
declassified, what about the ones that they haven't?
01:06:12
Speaker 2: Right.
01:06:13
Speaker 4: You know.
01:06:14
So you know what is in there, you know.
01:06:17
And so when they're in there in the what do you call it?
01:06:25
the RV, you know Randall's like .
01:06:29
So One thing you haven't really considered is that if this is
01:06:36
really going on, that we're being watched.
01:06:39
What are the odds that some of the people here are the watchers
01:06:45
?
01:06:45
Speaker 2: Who's the mole?
01:06:48
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought, I really still do think it was Tom
01:06:51
It could be Donna.
01:06:53
It could be Donna.
01:06:58
Speaker 2: It couldn't be Dale.
01:06:59
He's not smart enough.
01:07:02
Speaker 4: But that could be his game.
01:07:05
Speaker 2: It could be.
01:07:06
It could be Clara.
01:07:09
Speaker 4: Clara Yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, i mean, and I'd love to know what
01:07:13
from the people that are watching, you know who do you
01:07:16
think the mole could be?
01:07:17
Because you've got all these characters.
01:07:20
You've got, you know, mrs Lew with her T, you've got her son,
01:07:26
you've got a whole bunch of people that it could be And
01:07:33
there could be multiple moles, absolutely Yeah.
01:07:37
Speaker 4: And they, you know, and they don't necessarily know
01:07:40
about the other one.
01:07:41
Speaker 2: You know, they could all be there being blackmailed
01:07:45
to do something against their will.
01:07:48
Speaker 4: It's possible.
01:07:49
It's highly possible, yeah.
01:07:52
So anyway, when Randall said that to Jim, i had a revelation
01:08:04
or an epiphany, whichever one, and I was like, oh my God, donna
01:08:12
is one of the people watching And not only Donna, but someone
01:08:20
else And I was like, all right, well, i did a little bit.
01:08:26
I didn't really get into this deeper Now it makes me wanna go
01:08:31
back and watch all the episodes and pick up all the instances.
01:08:35
Speaker 2: Daily Info says Tilly is the mole and Sarah is being
01:08:40
used.
01:08:40
I don't think Tilly's the mole.
01:08:42
I think personally.
01:08:44
I think Tilly is just a nosy old lady that just happened to
01:08:48
be there.
01:08:49
I'm sorry, i didn't mean to cut you off.
01:08:52
Speaker 4: I think Tilly is part of that.
01:08:54
Tilly is a facilitator, slash instigator.
01:08:59
There was nothing for her to facilitate or instigate this
01:09:04
time around.
01:09:05
But going back to Donna now she is sitting and we've talked
01:09:12
about this, the big house on the hill but looks down on the town
01:09:16
right Now.
01:09:17
Donna has been there for about six months and she's established
01:09:25
that colony house.
01:09:26
So Crominoco thinks she could be a mole for the good side
01:09:33
could be.
01:09:33
But she establishes the colony house, environment, atmosphere
01:09:44
And it's a good place to be And she has control over that.
01:09:47
And there's people that live down in the town, but no one too
01:09:52
crazy.
01:09:52
Nothing really goes down down in that town.
01:09:56
People go down and they eat dinner or breakfast and lunch at
01:09:59
the diner and Mrs Lou is there working all day with Sarah And
01:10:04
you know Boyd is running around doing his share of things just
01:10:07
checking in on people And you know Kenny is just following him
01:10:12
right along.
01:10:13
There's nothing much going on down there.
01:10:16
Nope.
01:10:17
And then the Matthews family shows up, and so what happens is
01:10:22
that she's like crap.
01:10:25
I can't handle what's going on up here and what's going on down
01:10:31
there.
01:10:31
I need someone to be down there watching that.
01:10:35
And then in comes the bus And you know, there's things that we
01:10:41
don't see, i'm sure, because that's life.
01:10:44
I don't see everything that goes on in your house.
01:10:46
You don't see everything that goes on in mine.
01:10:48
What happens is there's someone on that bus that can watch
01:10:58
what's going on in that town.
01:10:59
Now we've got Randall, who's got a lot of wonderful things
01:11:08
missing in his personality.
01:11:10
And then we've got Donna, who everybody reveres, right?
01:11:14
Donna is used to being in charge.
01:11:17
Randall doesn't want to be told what to do.
01:11:19
They bump heads.
01:11:21
Donna takes Randall and she puts him on the bus down in the
01:11:27
town.
01:11:27
Who's to say that wasn't all orchestrated?
01:11:30
They fought publicly.
01:11:32
Every time they went head to head there were tons of people
01:11:36
around watching how they did not get along.
01:11:39
Speaker 2: Well, also that's a question you can ask Randall
01:11:42
this week when we interview him.
01:11:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be interesting.
01:11:45
So at any rate, he's sitting there.
01:11:49
He doesn't sit inside the bus.
01:11:52
Speaker 2: No.
01:11:53
Speaker 4: He puts a seat on top of the bus and he watches
01:11:58
what's going on down in that town.
01:12:00
Right, Who's been running around mouth and off about how
01:12:05
someone's listening to us?
01:12:06
Well, it must be Jim.
01:12:08
How can I get Jim's attention With?
01:12:12
the trunks Of technology that Jim can exploit.
01:12:17
So to make sure that Jim sees that technology, he buzzes him
01:12:25
And then he they create a little .
01:12:27
It's not a friendship because Randall does not want to be
01:12:31
bothered.
01:12:32
His job is to watch what's going on in that town and he is
01:12:37
just a watcher.
01:12:38
But he needs to plant a seed in Jim, because you see Jim's face
01:12:47
when Randall said that to him.
01:12:49
He was like holy fuck, i never even thought of that.
01:12:52
Never even thought of that.
01:12:55
So he just throws that monkey wrench in there.
01:13:01
Meanwhile, donna is up at the colony house.
01:13:06
One of her jobs is to make sure that they've got crops growing
01:13:12
and that they can feed everybody .
01:13:14
That's one of her jobs, right?
01:13:16
She can run the people up there and Randall can run the people
01:13:24
down in the town.
01:13:25
And I think what happened was at some point maybe it was
01:13:32
before she arrived there with her sister.
01:13:34
Maybe she too had a dream and she couldn't remember everything
01:13:40
.
01:13:42
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe that's what her and Elja Well,
01:13:43
to your point and I'm not saying I believe this, one of the
01:13:48
things that she says to Ethan last week was because he asked
01:13:53
well, what about?
01:13:54
what about everything falling in?
01:13:58
And she said as long as your mom doesn't start digging holes
01:14:04
into the thing, you'll be fine.
01:14:07
Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
01:14:08
And then I'm not, you know Start digging holes again.
01:14:11
Let me just add that digging holes, right.
01:14:15
So I mean she made that comment , when it's very similar to the
01:14:21
comment that she heard on the radio And for all we know, you
01:14:26
know, she reported out and she was the only one that heard the
01:14:30
radio.
01:14:30
Aside from Jim, she was the only one right And so and then
01:14:38
when her and Jim talked about that, i saw a real fear in her
01:14:42
face, like don't fucking say anything.
01:14:48
Speaker 2: Like I hope that's not it.
01:14:50
I really like the Crominocle story.
01:14:52
I like the Crominocle.
01:14:54
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean the Crominocle story goes away.
01:14:57
It doesn't mean that it goes away at all.
01:15:00
I think that at some point prior to her and her sister's
01:15:08
arrival, she, when she was watching that happen to her
01:15:13
sister, she was like, oh my God, this is familiar.
01:15:18
This goes back to my dream.
01:15:21
This goes back to what I was told, something like that.
01:15:24
And she was allowed to live, almost like.
01:15:30
She was told that she wasn't going to die when they stopped,
01:15:35
like that It was just gonna be her sister And to run out and
01:15:39
find a bush to hide the time.
01:15:41
I mean, i wouldn't think that you'd be safe in a bush.
01:15:44
But she survived the night in a bush until the next morning.
01:15:48
Right, she was quick to get down to town to warn everybody
01:15:56
on the bus about getting inside at night.
01:15:59
Right, she needed to keep the new people alive because Randall
01:16:05
was on that bus and she needed Randall there to do his job
01:16:11
because he is part of the experiment, just like her.
01:16:14
I have one more thing.
01:16:17
I think one reason why she was overjoyed at Fatima being
01:16:24
pregnant is because Ellis was not supposed to be stabbed, that
01:16:31
it happened on her watch, when she wasn't there keeping an eye
01:16:35
on things that you know maybe there's a bigger plan for them
01:16:40
huh there might be a bigger plan for those might be a bigger
01:16:43
plan for Ellis, because Abby goes nuts and then Boyd is
01:16:50
choice forced to choose between his son and his wife.
01:16:55
Ellis needed to be saved, and that's the thing with Fatima,
01:17:00
because she says to Fatima good job, good job getting him down
01:17:04
to the hospital, good job, right , that was one of it.
01:17:10
And then Fatima pops up pregnant.
01:17:12
It kind of like outweighs Ellis being nearly killed.
01:17:17
This, this just came to me.
01:17:23
Speaker 2: Well, here's the question for you do you think
01:17:25
Tabitha and Jim have different?
01:17:27
different theories may ruin their relationship?
01:17:31
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what's driving them apart right now.
01:17:34
He's convinced someone is listening to them, that
01:17:38
something like he is on that while she's dealing with her own
01:17:43
crisis.
01:17:48
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Elgin being an unwilling mole?
01:17:59
Speaker 4: Maybe he just hasn't, maybe maybe he could be I, just
01:18:05
because he he seems to think he needs to do something, but he
01:18:10
can't remember what it is, and I think that, remember, he thinks
01:18:15
that, that the water is significant, and I think that
01:18:19
when the time comes, he'll know what he needs to do.
01:18:23
Speaker 2: Right now.
01:18:24
I know people have said this theory about the Red Wedding.
01:18:27
We'll say I mean we don't know yet, but that said do you have
01:18:35
any other?
01:18:35
notes.
01:18:45
That was everything because it's gonna put final thoughts.
01:18:50
I mean, we do have some feedback which we're gonna play
01:18:55
folks and we have some reading feedback and then we have some
01:18:59
other feedback.
01:19:00
But before we get to that, i just want to tell everybody we
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do have an Etsy shop now selling things like stickers and some a
01:19:09
couple of different shirts and mugs, and you can go to the.
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If you go to Etsy and and type in what is from shop, you can
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get that Actually.
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Speaker 4: I have the bracelets.
01:19:22
The two bracelets.
01:19:23
I have them with me, alright, so when I think I found my
01:19:26
camera, one of them says from as you can see, there you go and
01:19:34
then on the inside it'll tell you a location where someone is
01:19:38
from.
01:19:39
So it could be like this happens to be where Donna is
01:19:42
from Bozeman, montana.
01:19:44
That's where she was, or it could be where you're actually
01:19:49
from.
01:19:49
And then the other one is hashtag from a Lee, and you can
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have your name on the inside.
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Yeah.
01:20:00
I'm sorry you can't see it, but if you go to our website, the
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what is from shop on Etsy, etsy, not Etsy you'll be able to see
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pictures.
01:20:12
Speaker 2: Alright, so let's try to get to some feedback and I'm
01:20:17
getting a lot of feedback.
01:20:18
What's that?
01:20:20
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of feedback.
01:20:22
Speaker 2: Why don't you read some of your feedback and then
01:20:26
we'll do a couple of calls and whatever.
01:20:29
Speaker 4: Okay, i am gonna start with Kelly Burgess, and
01:20:34
some of this is dated.
01:20:35
We missed feedback one week, so she says finally got caught up.
01:20:41
Kelly, i know the feeling.
01:20:43
So did they discover a way to fight the monsters or was it a
01:20:48
one-time thing?
01:20:49
I was worried about Ellis.
01:20:51
Glad they were able to save him .
01:20:53
I really think it'd be horrible for him to go out like that.
01:20:56
Oh my god, yes, kelly.
01:20:58
What kind of repercussions will that bring at colony house?
01:21:02
Boyd's leniency with Sarah might have opened up a can of
01:21:06
worms, it seems.
01:21:07
Looking forward to getting caught up in the on the podcast
01:21:11
as well, i think.
01:21:15
Penny Lennox might have done tape right, no.
01:21:22
Alright, because I don't have her here.
01:21:24
I don't see Penny here.
01:21:27
I'm a newscaster, alright.
01:21:29
So Cara Latio-Less or no Latio-Lay, maybe glad to be
01:21:39
caught up so I can join the Fromily.
01:21:41
This show is so grim.
01:21:44
The set design and lighting is all dilapidated and overgrown,
01:21:48
the houses are dirty and the sky is perpetually overcast.
01:21:52
The characters and writing have a lot of work to do to push
01:21:55
through all that gloom.
01:21:56
I'm a particular fan of Donna get in line.
01:22:01
Cara Love her bluntness and pragmatism, and watching Boyd
01:22:06
and Ellis together is healing the Michael and Walt hole in my
01:22:10
heart.
01:22:10
Oh, my god, i know Really enjoyed this episode, whichever
01:22:15
one.
01:22:15
This was not sure I was a little worried about Ellis there
01:22:18
, but I'm glad he made it.
01:22:20
What a stupid way to die that would be.
01:22:22
The way the scene of the van heading to the clinic was shot
01:22:25
was brilliantly, brilliantly done, very video game-esque and
01:22:30
really contributed to the tension of the scene.
01:22:33
I felt like I was in the van.
01:22:34
What about you?
01:22:35
Speaker 2: Absolutely, i thought it you know what?
01:22:38
Speaker 4: that would be a great ride at Universal.
01:22:40
Yeah, i kept expecting something to pop up and hit the
01:22:46
windshield.
01:22:47
The camel work and the generally realistic portrayal of
01:22:50
the treatment of medical emergencies both help keep me
01:22:54
sucked into this show.
01:22:55
I you know it's like a cross between ER and like X files.
01:23:01
I'm also liking Jim's theory that this is some kind of test
01:23:06
experiment, more and more The storm seemingly coming out of
01:23:10
nowhere The voice-naming Jim on the radio, the house collapsing,
01:23:14
the scarcity of food, etc.
01:23:18
Certainly makes it seem like somebody or something is pulling
01:23:22
the strings, but who or what could that be One thing.
01:23:27
What is with people on the show Questioning each other when
01:23:31
anything's new and weird You guys are trapped in an
01:23:36
un-plotable town with monsters who rip people apart.
01:23:40
But it's somehow crazy if somebody traveled via tree or
01:23:45
has worms crawling under their skin.
01:23:47
Come on, y'all, you're living in a horror movie.
01:23:52
I suggest it just goes to show that once you acclimate to a new
01:23:56
normal and accept the existing crazy, your brain desperately
01:24:01
clings to maintaining that status quo and ignoring new
01:24:05
challenges to your reality.
01:24:06
Alright, karen stole Maderos.
01:24:11
No, not smiley.
01:24:14
Ha.
01:24:14
Love this episode, although Jim is getting a little annoying.
01:24:19
He might be on to something with his theory, but he's
01:24:23
getting on my nerves.
01:24:24
Kenny was amazing in this episode.
01:24:28
He really stepped it up.
01:24:29
I also like the scene where he opened up about worrying about
01:24:34
Boyd's health and how it's bringing up emotions about his
01:24:37
dad's decline.
01:24:38
He seemed to still feel like Boyd was a father figure to him.
01:24:43
I really hope we get to see Boyd as a grandfather.
01:24:47
I love his relationship with a Fatima too.
01:24:50
Listening to the pod now.
01:24:52
Thank you, lizzie and Alex, for the phenomenal coverage of the
01:24:56
show.
01:24:56
You are so welcome.
01:24:59
Speaker 2: Well, before you get to your next one, i want to.
01:25:02
I want to do one of our callers .
01:25:06
Okay, first is we're gonna do is Courtney from South Jersey.
01:25:12
Here you go.
01:25:15
Speaker 7: Lizzie and Alex.
01:25:17
Hey, it's Courtney.
01:25:19
It's been a long while, oh my gosh.
01:25:22
So, oh yeah, i'm not chick from South Jersey, i'm like duh, in
01:25:27
case you guys forgot, okay so so I was gonna respond to your
01:25:34
episode after the last time you guys put me on and then I was
01:25:38
like you know what, i'm gonna give other people a chance to
01:25:40
respond and say their thing.
01:25:42
and then I think the week after that, if it wasn't that
01:25:45
specific week, you guys had like some of the actors and
01:25:49
actresses from the show come on and I was like, oh my god,
01:25:53
that's so amazing.
01:25:53
So I actually didn't catch up with your episodes past that.
01:25:57
But to keep it short and simple , i'm just going to keep it
01:26:01
short and simple.
01:26:02
Oh, excuse me, i just got off work like 30 minutes ago.
01:26:06
I'm still trying to get my mind right.
01:26:07
So I'm about to watch the last three episodes of From, just to
01:26:13
See if there was anything that I missed, and just so that my
01:26:16
mind is like, really there with the show, like this is, i'm
01:26:20
obviously obsessing over this show.
01:26:22
I take it very serious when I binge watch a show.
01:26:25
Okay, so my quest?
01:26:27
no, first of all, i have a comment.
01:26:29
I really loved the fact that Boyd's arms squirms served a
01:26:36
purpose, because I was really terrified that they were gonna
01:26:39
take over him, that he was gonna turn into one of those
01:26:41
creatures, or, like I had no idea what was going.
01:26:45
This episode it was called Pa de do, pa de do I don't know how
01:26:50
to pronounce that, but I know it's French.
01:26:51
It's probably not even French.
01:26:54
Okay, the ballerina creeped me out.
01:26:57
Every time I seen her she creeped me out.
01:27:00
But I really loved the fact that Boyd had this amazing,
01:27:09
freaking idea to pass on his arms squirms to the creatures.
01:27:16
Now, i really thought that the creature was gonna like get up
01:27:19
at some point, but like psych, like that didn't do anything to
01:27:21
me.
01:27:22
Like when he started, like oh my god, when he like when Boyd
01:27:26
held his hand up to I'm gonna call him the boss, because for
01:27:30
some reason I feel like he was like a boss or something or like
01:27:34
the head of the little creature group and the arms squirms went
01:27:38
into him.
01:27:39
I thought the monster was joking like.
01:27:41
I thought he was like just playing a game.
01:27:44
So the fact that the end of the episode, boyd was like staring
01:27:49
out the window of the door and Kenny was like is he dead and
01:27:54
Boyd is like we're gonna find out soon enough.
01:27:56
I know that's right.
01:27:58
Yes, watch him, see if he twitches, see if he gets up, but
01:28:01
I think he actually died because I don't know, i feel
01:28:05
like he's actually dead.
01:28:06
I mean, i'm hoping he's actually dead, because you can't
01:28:09
really predict anything with this show.
01:28:11
Every time you predict something it goes a different
01:28:13
way.
01:28:13
Speaker 2: But um, that was really so yeah, thank you,
01:28:22
courtney from South Jersey.
01:28:23
Do you have another one or you want to play another piece of
01:28:25
feedback?
01:28:26
Speaker 4: I just have two short ones, okay done okay all right.
01:28:30
So Des Combs writes the episodes keep getting creepier
01:28:35
and creepier.
01:28:35
The scene in the van had me stressed, man.
01:28:39
I kept waiting for something to hit the windshield.
01:28:42
Poor one out for our dear friend.
01:28:44
This episode hashtag justice for smiley.
01:28:48
And then Alma Contreras says Alma.
01:28:53
Speaker 5: Alma, this was a really intense episode.
01:28:58
I was very worried about losing Ellis.
01:29:01
That whole scene with them trying to get to the clinic had
01:29:05
me at the edge of my seat.
01:29:07
Poor boy does kind of becoming unhinged with all of his
01:29:12
hallucinations, though I have liked having father country back
01:29:16
so the squirmy blood can kill those monsters.
01:29:20
That scene with boy passing the squirmy blood was a huge gamble
01:29:25
and I'm glad it worked.
01:29:27
I can't wait to watch the next episode.
01:29:30
Ps, that ballerina was creepy as fuck all righty, we got.
01:29:40
Speaker 2: We got two more pieces of feedback, folks.
01:29:42
One is from this guy.
01:29:45
Speaker 1: We call him live Steve, and here we go all right,
01:29:49
alex and Lizzie, this is Steve and this is for pause date.
01:29:53
I don't know how to say French.
01:29:54
Weren't there like a bunch of chairs and stuff in the church?
01:29:57
oh, we got a music box.
01:29:59
This is scary.
01:30:00
They're a full-boy creepy ballerina girl.
01:30:03
Is doesn't seem right, okay.
01:30:06
And now we woke up on the floor .
01:30:08
Oh, so I don't the whole thing with Mario and Christie.
01:30:12
Yeah, we knew she's a junkie and now she knows, but they've
01:30:15
never had fall, they never had winter, they never had any
01:30:18
seasons here in from land.
01:30:19
Yeah, and this isn't the whole.
01:30:21
Me closer, tiny dancer kind of ballerina move.
01:30:23
She's creepy.
01:30:24
And Jim still thinks this is somebody's experiment.
01:30:27
Dude, jumpy munch, you almost shot mariel.
01:30:30
Be careful with that weapon.
01:30:31
He just stabbed Ellis.
01:30:33
Oh no, wait, boy was in the hospital.
01:30:37
Did he make it back to the church before?
01:30:40
I don't understand.
01:30:41
Was this another vision he's having of the father, the priest
01:30:44
?
01:30:44
no, yeah, he's still in the hospital because he's downstairs
01:30:47
now.
01:30:47
Oh no, elgin, is that what this new character's name is?
01:30:50
this is not gonna bode well for you, but I'm glad you're trying
01:30:54
to help Ellis and Fatima.
01:30:56
Okay, these rates or shriekers, or whatever we're calling them,
01:31:00
are not moving as fast as they have before, because they would
01:31:03
have been all over this van, okay, so they made it to the
01:31:06
clinic and now we're back inside with mariel and Christie.
01:31:09
Oh, that was tense.
01:31:11
Ellis had blood in his lungs.
01:31:13
I, oh, so other people can see the, the stuff in Boyd's arm.
01:31:19
Now, oh, boyd Kenny was willing to sacrifice himself.
01:31:23
And now you're outside.
01:31:24
What are you gonna do?
01:31:25
oh, is it working?
01:31:27
is he is his?
01:31:27
those things actually going into smiley, oh, and now they're
01:31:30
all avoiding Boyd and going after smiley.
01:31:34
Just, they're just surprised.
01:31:35
They're looking at him.
01:31:35
Forget, is it?
01:31:36
oh, negative, that's the universal donor, or positive,
01:31:39
that's the universe?
01:31:40
I, it doesn't matter.
01:31:41
So they both have a negative, it's fine.
01:31:43
Oh, this is a sweet moment between Donna and what's little
01:31:46
boy's name?
01:31:46
is it Ethan?
01:31:47
yeah, ethan, i think who?
01:31:48
so maybe it is dead.
01:31:50
Speaker 2: All right, talk to you later well, steve, you never
01:31:53
disappoint, and the last piece of feedback that we have is from
01:31:58
Jody and I know she wasn't feeling too good.
01:32:02
She got the COVID, so our international desk has been a
01:32:06
little quiet.
01:32:07
But, folks, if you guys are looking to send feedback in, you
01:32:11
can always send it to the podcast and via via Facebook on
01:32:18
PICASTICA or on our from email or on talks at PICASTICAcom,
01:32:26
which I don't have in front of me right now.
01:32:28
But our last piece of feedback is going to be from Jody, so
01:32:31
let's hear what she has to say hi Lizzie and Alex.
01:32:34
Speaker 6: It's Jody from Australia here with my feedback
01:32:37
for from season 2, episode 6.
01:32:39
I have to apologize for the way my voice sounds.
01:32:42
I'm recovering from COVID and I still have the cough of death.
01:32:45
I lost my voice a few times while I was sick.
01:32:47
It's still coming back and I sound like a maniac.
01:32:50
So my serious apologies for that.
01:32:54
So for this episode, i absolutely love Jim's developing
01:32:57
theory and I'm totally with him , and not just because I think
01:33:00
he's sexy.
01:33:01
I think they are in a controlled environment.
01:33:03
Someone is watching them and possibly experimenting on them
01:33:06
to see how they react to certain stimuli.
01:33:09
I've kind of been thinking that since season one.
01:33:11
It's pretty clear the stress levels for everyone are
01:33:15
ratcheting upwards.
01:33:16
But what's with Dave just randomly stabbing people with
01:33:19
his piss like come on, control yourself, buddy?
01:33:22
and now they have a big problem now because, boy, he doesn't
01:33:26
punish the Sarah for being a murderer, so they can't really
01:33:28
do anything to Dave either.
01:33:30
So their pseudo legal slash punishment system is really
01:33:34
getting out of whack.
01:33:36
I really thought Ellis was gonna die in Fatima's arms and I
01:33:39
found the van ride to the clinic incredibly stressful I'm so
01:33:42
glad they made it and boy confronting the monsters and
01:33:46
neutralizing one with whatever Martin put in his blood was
01:33:50
absolutely wild and dying.
01:33:51
To see if Mr smiley is still there come morning and whether
01:33:54
they can work out is what happened.
01:33:56
That will be really interesting .
01:33:58
And finally, i'm so excited that Fatima might be pregnant
01:34:02
and given where she lives, i really shouldn't be.
01:34:04
But that's the end of my observations this week, just
01:34:07
short and sweet.
01:34:08
I can't wait to hear what you guys think of the episode.
01:34:11
Speaker 2: Talk soon well, hopefully she is feeling better.
01:34:16
And yes, maggie, we love, we love, love, love Jodi, with her
01:34:23
Australian accent and she is the head of the international desk
01:34:28
and all I can say Jodi, cough drops, cough drops.
01:34:33
January, and I'm still on cough drops well, that being said, we
01:34:40
are pretty much done.
01:34:41
You know Sunday is from day, but if you guys like the podcast
01:34:45
and you want to support us, you know he's good a buzzsprout on
01:34:49
our supporter line as well, as hit that subscribe button with
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that bell.
01:34:55
And one other thing is, like I said to you guys before, we do
01:35:01
have that Etsy shop and that's also going to be in the show
01:35:04
notes as well.
01:35:05
Next week we are going to be covering season two.
01:35:10
Yes, season two, episode eight, i believe the name of the title
01:35:14
is called the forest in the forest for the trees, and are we
01:35:21
going to be on on Sunday night?
01:35:23
I don't know yet.
01:35:26
We don't know yet.
01:35:27
So this might be a one-time deal.
01:35:29
This might be a one-time year regular but we are.
01:35:35
We are so thankful that you guys spent the time and, you know,
01:35:42
came out and listened to us and your, your thanks for doing.
01:35:48
All this comes down to one thing we're gonna let that the
01:35:51
head of the committee, of the secret committee of people that
01:35:59
are the drones are gonna take us out.
01:36:01
So let me just find that right about now and see you next week.
01:36:07
Get your home let's go, come on .
01:36:12
Get in your house, let's go, come on.