#FROMily Send us a text today!
What happens when a true crime podcast shoutout sends an author's heart racing just as much as the mysterious seizures plaguing characters in a TV show? This week, I'm sharing the electric vibes from Atlanta Comic-Con that fueled my fire to continue weaving tales in my book series and revealing how the surprising nod from a renowned podcast left me grappling with a blend of pride and nerves. We also delve into the thrilling yet complicated world of "The Walking Dead," where the Rick Grimes finale has us reeling, and "Tales of the Walking Dead" promises to expand this beloved universe even further. Then, we beckon you to join us in peeling back the shadowy layers of "From" episode five, "Silhouettes," where every re-watch unveils new secrets.
Amid the chaos of unraveling timelines and the raw emotional triggers of "From," we dissect the significance of the character's physical reactions and how their past intertwines with their present predicaments. The tension escalates as we analyze the impact of Nathan's shocking narrative twist and the frustrating storytelling choices that leave us yearning for resolutions. Furthermore, we dissect the complexities of Christy's relationships and Sarah's haunting past, scrutinizing how their stories bleed into each other, shaping a maze of friendships and storylines that demand our full attention. Strap in for a podcast episode that doesn't shy away from the gritty emotions these shows evoke, and join us as we navigate the intricate paths of relationships, timelines, and the unknown.
You to can become part of our show by showing your support.
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2182864/support
https://www.etsy.com/shop/WhatisFromShop
You can connect with us by comment below or send emails and voicemails to fromepixpodcast@gmail.com
https://www.instagram.com/wfromcast/
https://twitter.com/wfromcast
TIKTOC: whatisfromcast
You can find our contact info and all our other shows at: www.podcastica.com
Check out Alex and Lucy on Daddy Daughter BookWorms:
https://shorturl.at/nwALY
Check out Lizzie on Brains Gone Bad: http://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/brainsgonebad
Check out Lizzie’s book series, Lizzie’s Lost Girls at: https://shorturl.at/cijOP
Podcastica. Fun, in-depth talk about great TV.
Speaker 1: Hmm, ah, hmm, one gets bigger.
00:00:30
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
00:00:31
My name is Alex.
00:00:33
Speaker 3: And I'm Lizzie.
00:00:35
Speaker 2: And we are the what Is From cast, a podcast
00:00:38
dedicated to the show From, and we are watching episode five one
00:00:48
, silhouettes and folks.
00:00:52
Uh, if you are a friend of the podcast and you want to hit the
00:00:56
subscribe button, that's great.
00:00:57
We're trying to get to 500 subscribers on our youtube.
00:01:00
Also, if you want to come to our Etsy shop, you can just shop
00:01:04
what is from shop and you can get bracelets and shirts and
00:01:07
mugs, oh my, so, oh my, and all that good stuff that goes along
00:01:14
with it.
00:01:15
But, lizzie, what'd you do this weekend?
00:01:20
Speaker 3: I went to Atlanta Comic Con.
00:01:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.
00:01:22
And how was it?
00:01:23
I went to Atlanta Comic-Con.
00:01:24
Yeah, baby.
00:01:25
Speaker 3: And how was it?
00:01:25
It was really so much bigger than last year.
00:01:31
There was 10 or 12.
00:01:35
I can't remember how many Walking Dead alum that were
00:01:40
there, but I really didn't leave my table very much.
00:01:45
I was there selling my books and I just kind of sat there
00:01:49
throughout the day yeah, you kind of sold out a little kind
00:01:52
of yeah, sort of kind of I mean, if you don't go with a lot, you
00:01:56
don't have a lot to sell, to sell out.
00:01:59
Speaker 2: But true, but I thought I had more than I did
00:02:03
but, um you know, the fifth book is coming, or the last book is
00:02:07
coming, the fifth book is coming .
00:02:10
Yep, and do we have a title for it yet?
00:02:14
Speaker 3: Book five.
00:02:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:02:16
Speaker 3: Lizzie's Lost Girls, book five.
00:02:19
Speaker 2: Are they always like book one, book two, book three?
00:02:21
Yeah, I'm sorry you can definitely do a lot of reading
00:02:25
of lizzie's books, um, but yeah, no, the final.
00:02:28
Is this the final one?
00:02:30
I?
00:02:30
Speaker 3: don't know yet oh okay, um, I am working my way
00:02:37
through it.
00:02:37
Um, I'm gonna get a little heavy uh-oh.
00:02:44
For a chunk of this year I thought I was dying and I was
00:02:52
getting freaked out about my book.
00:02:53
I didn't want to leave it and not have it completed.
00:02:57
So I was writing it to completion so that people
00:03:03
wouldn't be left hanging.
00:03:05
But yesterday things turned around and I no longer think
00:03:12
that that's going to happen sooner rather than later, unless
00:03:15
it's a an accident.
00:03:17
Speaker 2: So well, there's always now huh there's always
00:03:21
that freak, you know.
00:03:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean I'm, I'll go where I'm
00:03:26
called, but at any rate, um, now , I had always said I'd make up
00:03:31
my mind around book six and, um, this is book five.
00:03:36
So I still have another book, at least before I have to think
00:03:39
about it.
00:03:39
So I don't know.
00:03:42
Um, there were some cool things that happened this weekend.
00:03:46
I always am struck by people that come up and talk to me
00:03:52
about the book because they've read it me every time they see
00:04:07
me and because they know, you know, they're not going to get
00:04:08
to all of them at once, but, um, and I love seeing those people
00:04:10
and hearing what they have to say.
00:04:12
But someone walked up to my table and she's like I've heard
00:04:17
all about this book.
00:04:18
I'm like, really.
00:04:18
And she said and I'm like, where would you hear about this
00:04:22
book?
00:04:22
And she said she heard it on a true crime podcast.
00:04:28
What.
00:04:30
I know right.
00:04:31
So she thinks it was either oh, shoot, it was either my
00:04:40
Favorite Murder or crap.
00:04:42
I forgot what the other one's called.
00:04:44
I don't think I brought oh, I did bring my my phone in here,
00:04:47
um, and they're both podcasts that make it into my rotation,
00:04:53
because I do listen to a lot of true crime.
00:04:56
Um, oh, crime junkie Duh, I knew it was something simple, um
00:05:01
, so it was mentioned on one of those two.
00:05:05
I'm leaning towards my favorite murder, based on their layout
00:05:11
of things.
00:05:11
So we'll see, but it was weird.
00:05:15
Usually, you know, it's negative talk about me and I
00:05:20
don't care about that.
00:05:21
Like, oh, like more power to you.
00:05:22
It's none of my business, I don't care about that.
00:05:23
I'll like more power to you, it's none of my business.
00:05:25
Speaker 2: As I told you before, I always like promoting your
00:05:27
stuff because it's Walking Dead Universe and that's kind of the
00:05:31
way we started on this network.
00:05:33
So we're gearing up I know the network is gearing up for next
00:05:37
week, the big Rick Grimes finale .
00:05:42
Speaker 3: The ones who live I don't know if it's going to be a
00:05:45
finale Now.
00:05:48
I've heard there's going to be another season, and today I
00:05:51
heard that Tales of the Walking Dead is filming.
00:05:54
Speaker 2: Right.
00:05:54
Well, they're trying to expand the universe, that's for sure.
00:05:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Tales, I like the same it has its
00:06:02
moments.
00:06:02
Speaker 2: It has its moments.
00:06:03
I like it as its moments and that is moments.
00:06:10
Speaker 3: But let's get into our, our episode five, season
00:06:12
one.
00:06:12
Silhouettes, silhouettes.
00:06:16
And what was your first thoughts?
00:06:18
It's the same thought I have with every every episode.
00:06:21
I'm just floored.
00:06:22
I continue to be wowed and surprised, when you would think
00:06:28
that you wouldn't be surprised, since you've already seen these
00:06:32
episodes multiple times.
00:06:34
And there's just these little nuances that I'm picking up that
00:06:42
are not meaningless.
00:06:43
They have a point and I'm like wow, without watching it this
00:06:49
way, you miss so much.
00:06:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and we're going to try to get into
00:06:57
the ones that we find.
00:06:58
And, folks, if you find any that we don't, please let us
00:07:02
know, Because I know we've heard from some fans telling us well,
00:07:06
why didn't you talk about this?
00:07:06
Why didn't you talk about that?
00:07:07
You know what?
00:07:09
It's great stuff and that's what it's all about.
00:07:13
But how about we start with the cold open?
00:07:16
Because we did get another cold open again and that was kind of
00:07:21
fun.
00:07:22
Speaker 3: There were two scenes in the cold open.
00:07:25
The first scene is the barn exterior and you can hear goats
00:07:31
bleeding and Nathan is feeding the goats and a woman comes
00:07:35
running up to tell Nathan something is wrong with Sarah,
00:07:38
so he runs to the clinic.
00:07:39
The second scene is the clinic interior.
00:07:43
Now this is the whole piece.
00:07:46
After Sarah collapses on the floor in the diner, christy is
00:07:51
examining Sarah and Sarah says she's feeling better.
00:07:54
Christy wants Sarah to spend the night for observation.
00:07:57
Sarah doesn't want to, but Christy offers to get Nathan and
00:08:02
Sarah refuses because he worries and Christy and ask
00:08:06
Christy to say that she's sleeping if Nathan comes by.
00:08:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that, you think?
00:08:12
Speaker 3: You know it's funny that you should ask, because I
00:08:16
didn't think of it at the time.
00:08:17
I've got all these like single hairs flying in my face.
00:08:20
It's because she doesn't want to talk to Nathan about what she
00:08:26
did to Toby.
00:08:26
You know, like I don't think she wants to answer for that,
00:08:32
because there's a scene where Nathan is sitting at the table
00:08:37
and there's her bloody clothes and it's not going to get to
00:08:40
that.
00:08:41
I scraped a knee.
00:08:42
It's full on soaked in blood.
00:08:45
So she doesn't want to answer to him about that.
00:08:48
So then Boyd comes in and Christy goes to speak with him.
00:08:52
And Boyd asks how Sarah is.
00:08:54
Christy says fine, given the circumstances and this hasn't
00:08:59
happened before, according to Sarah, I think, meaning the
00:09:04
convulsions.
00:09:05
So now we have two people that have had convulsions, Ethan and
00:09:09
Sarah.
00:09:10
Unless there's an MRI machine, there's no way to really know
00:09:14
what's going on.
00:09:15
Christy says she's going to keep her overnight and Boyd asks
00:09:18
if she's ready for that.
00:09:19
And she said she doesn't know how the door got open, but she's
00:09:23
not letting those things take this place away from her.
00:09:26
They both agree that those things have already taken too
00:09:30
much already.
00:09:30
So then Boyd asks about the seizures First Ethan, now Sarah.
00:09:36
Are they having a physical reaction to this place?
00:09:38
And I think that's a pretty interesting question are they
00:09:43
having a physical reaction to this place?
00:09:47
Speaker 2: yeah, I mean there is , there is something to be said.
00:09:50
I know some people were were commenting that ethan is very
00:10:11
well connected to it, right, and and then you know, victor could
00:10:17
be connected to it in a Right next season.
00:10:20
We see his emotion towards a musical instrument, with the
00:10:28
violin, and and then his, then his connection with mrs lou.
00:10:33
So I mean, there there are.
00:10:34
There are some definite tie-ins and um, but what's nice about
00:10:42
this is they, they.
00:10:44
They have everybody going in different directions, but
00:10:47
they're still making the plot move or the story move to get
00:10:52
closer to why are they there?
00:10:55
Speaker 3: Right and I wanted to .
00:11:00
I was just going to ask you a question, sorry, no, that's all
00:11:04
right, it was my fault.
00:11:08
Speaker 2: Boyd with Nathan.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: Oh, and Sarah's having a physical reaction to
00:11:12
this place.
00:11:13
Speaker 2: Well, let's just call it what it is Sarah got bit or
00:11:18
infested with the squirmy worms.
00:11:21
Now let's just call it what it is.
00:11:26
How did she get them in her?
00:11:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:11:29
That makes me wonder if she was in the same kind of place that
00:11:33
Boyd was in Exactly.
00:11:35
Did she see Martin?
00:11:37
So, and when?
00:11:41
Yeah, when did she.
00:11:46
Speaker 2: It's before the show started, right.
00:11:49
Speaker 3: And you see where I have it, because I'm keeping a
00:11:53
timeline every time someone mentions something.
00:11:56
So last in are the Matthews, and then, a few months before
00:12:03
that, sarah and Nathan that came out of this episode, and then
00:12:07
six months after the Matthews was Christy, and then Donna is
00:12:13
three years, six months and 17 days.
00:12:16
So that's basically our order right now.
00:12:22
That's basically our order right now.
00:12:24
Donna, aside from Victor, who's been there for a very long time
00:12:32
, donna is old man right now.
00:12:34
Let's see, normally diagnosed is one thing on the outside, but
00:12:40
something different is here.
00:12:41
So that's what Christy is saying.
00:12:48
Her response is that if you asked her this six months ago
00:12:49
yeah, no, she said it in this episode If you asked her about
00:12:52
this six months ago, that anything in this place would be
00:12:56
impossible.
00:12:57
So, which makes sense.
00:13:00
Christy notices that Boyd is having trouble with his hand.
00:13:03
This is the first time we noticed this or that someone
00:13:06
else notices it.
00:13:06
Christy asks how long Boyd has been having this problem.
00:13:10
He deflects and says long enough that it's got him asking
00:13:13
stupid questions.
00:13:14
So he totally changes subject.
00:13:17
She calls him on the carpet and she tells him to come by
00:13:20
tomorrow so she can take a look at it.
00:13:22
You know, of course, he'll be too busy.
00:13:24
He says no need, he already knows what it is, because it's
00:13:28
something that his father had.
00:13:29
Nathan comes running toward the clinic.
00:13:33
Christy tells Boyd that Sarah doesn't want to see him and Boyd
00:13:37
tells her to take care of Sarah and he'll take care of Nathan.
00:13:41
The third scene we're still on the cold open.
00:13:45
Oh wow, there's six scenes in the cold open.
00:13:49
Sorry, I misspoke earlier, so it's the clinic exterior.
00:13:53
Boyd exits the clinic and starts slowing Nathan's roll.
00:13:57
Nathan asks if she's okay.
00:13:59
Boyd tells him that he's fine and sleeping.
00:14:01
Boyd tells Nathan that he can see her tomorrow.
00:14:03
Nathan is insisting that he see her now and Boyd asks if
00:14:08
anything else is going on that they should know about to help
00:14:11
Christy figure out what's wrong.
00:14:13
Nathan says he's just worried about his little sister.
00:14:16
Boyd says it's Christy's first night back since and that they
00:14:22
shouldn't be going in and making it more stressful than it
00:14:26
already is.
00:14:26
Tells Nathan to go home and see her in the morning.
00:14:29
Nathan agrees, chris Christie watches him go and Boyd leaves.
00:14:35
So then we're at the fourth scene, which is the Matthews
00:14:39
house, and they're in the kitchen.
00:14:42
Ethan and Tabitha and Jim are at the table.
00:14:45
Ethan asks about Sarah.
00:14:48
Tabitha assures him that she'll be okay.
00:14:50
Jim enters and asks if Ethan remembers Christy and tells him
00:14:54
that Christy will patch up Sarah the same way she patched him up
00:14:57
.
00:14:57
Jim digs through the laptop bag and brings over two markers and
00:15:02
gives them each a marker.
00:15:04
They will play a game and we'll figure it out, meaning what
00:15:08
this whole place is about.
00:15:10
The fifth scene is the Matthew's house hallway.
00:15:13
Jim says that they will do some problem solving and the way to
00:15:17
do that is by asking questions.
00:15:19
So we have all done something similar to this in school and
00:15:25
they call it brainstorming.
00:15:27
And that's all they're doing here, except they're putting it
00:15:31
in a question form Ask every question that might apply, no
00:15:35
matter how crazy or unlikely, and put it in on a board to ID
00:15:39
everything that you know and everything that you don't.
00:15:41
The first question that Jim writes on the wall is where are
00:15:45
we?
00:15:45
And he says that's where we begin.
00:15:48
Um, let's see.
00:15:51
What would you write on the wall, alex?
00:15:57
Speaker 2: You know I I like Tabitha's question at the end Um
00:16:02
are we alive?
00:16:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, question at the end um are we alive?
00:16:08
Yeah, that's a good one.
00:16:09
Um on any brainstorming exercise.
00:16:12
Are we alive?
00:16:14
Speaker 2: um yeah, it's just um .
00:16:17
What's up with these monsters?
00:16:20
Yeah, where do they come from?
00:16:24
Speaker 3: monsters.
00:16:24
Where do they come from?
00:16:28
Speaker 2: Why us?
00:16:28
Why us?
00:16:30
Speaker 3: Why us?
00:16:30
That would be my question.
00:16:31
Why us?
00:16:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
00:16:35
That's a good question.
00:16:43
Speaker 3: Alright.
00:16:44
So the last scene in the cold open is Sarah and Nathan's house
00:16:45
.
00:16:45
In the dining room, nathan sits at the table looking at and
00:16:47
thinking about Sarah's bloody dress.
00:16:49
So now we're into the show.
00:16:51
Seventh scene they pan down the main street at dusk.
00:16:57
That's it.
00:16:58
Eighth scene the clinic interior.
00:17:00
Sarah opens a drawer.
00:17:02
She sees a scalpel and she reflects back on her arm with
00:17:09
the words written on it.
00:17:10
Sarah is holding her arm when Christy comes in and she tells
00:17:13
Christy that she can't sleep.
00:17:14
Christy says that she can't either and offers her some tea.
00:17:18
Sarah closes the door In the night scene.
00:17:22
In Christy's roomah says that christy, because they're
00:17:26
actually.
00:17:27
Did you look at christy's room?
00:17:28
It's pretty cool looking, it's comfortable.
00:17:31
I want that room, and so they're just hanging out there
00:17:34
having a girl's night yeah, they were having fun yeah, which you
00:17:39
know you don't often see.
00:17:41
Christy says that they're just friends.
00:17:43
Oh, Sarah asked about Kenny and comments that they make a cute
00:17:48
couple, and Christy says we're just friends.
00:17:50
Sarah asks why, when Kenny is really sweet and loves Christy?
00:17:55
Christy says it's complicated because she has someone at home
00:18:00
and thinks she's still waiting.
00:18:02
Her name is Marielle and they're engaged.
00:18:05
Christy wonders all the time what it must be like for her
00:18:09
thinking that Christy abandoned her.
00:18:11
Speaker 2: We'll find out soon enough.
00:18:13
Speaker 3: Yes, she will.
00:18:14
When asked if she has anyone back home, sarah says no, she
00:18:19
was with someone, but it's better that he's not around
00:18:22
anymore.
00:18:22
It's just her and Nathan.
00:18:23
Yeah, she has in the world.
00:18:23
That whole storyline is so messed up someone, but it's
00:18:24
better that he's not around anymore.
00:18:25
Speaker 2: It's just her and nathan yeah, she has in the
00:18:25
world that whole storyline is so messed up and and you know, I
00:18:33
understand that they don't have to give us everything all at
00:18:37
once, but it's been two seasons, like, and I realized that that
00:18:42
they end up, you know, killing Nathan off at the end of this
00:18:45
episode and it's just like, and maybe this is a lost thing, and
00:18:52
if it is, it's dumb.
00:18:53
I can't stand it.
00:18:55
But like you can't leave that stuff hanging, yeah.
00:18:59
And then I mean, when are they going to bring it up Next season
00:19:02
?
00:19:02
Like it's important information .
00:19:04
Is she abused?
00:19:08
I still don't think they're brother and sister or they're
00:19:12
incestual.
00:19:13
Or maybe they were foster siblings, whatever, If they are
00:19:20
fosters, then how hard is it to say we're fosters.
00:19:24
You know what I mean, like just kind of the whole yeah, it's
00:19:29
frustrating.
00:19:30
That storyline is just very frustrating to me.
00:19:33
Speaker 3: It is.
00:19:34
It is, and I've noticed that it feels like they had the show
00:19:41
fairly fleshed out as far as the setup goes, you know, but it
00:19:48
feels like at times they were rewriting the script as they
00:19:54
were going, because something made more sense this way or this
00:19:59
, you know, was something cool they thought of and they wanted
00:20:03
to include it.
00:20:04
I do feel like we're missing out something on something with
00:20:14
knowing this piece about Sarah.
00:20:16
Speaker 2: It just seems like it's an important piece.
00:20:18
For some reason, I don't know why, but it probably isn't.
00:20:21
But at the same time, let us be the judge of that.
00:20:24
Yeah, and again, we don't need to know everything all at once.
00:20:29
No, like the whole arm squirrely things we didn't need
00:20:33
to know in the first season.
00:20:34
Actually, I think nine times out of ten.
00:20:37
Most people forgot about it until boyd.
00:20:43
Speaker 3: well, yeah, and that's when you're supposed to
00:20:45
remember it, though, but I'm just saying like that's how
00:20:49
important and unimportant it is.
00:20:51
Speaker 2: And now, doing the rewatch, we realize how
00:20:53
important it is.
00:20:53
But I'm just saying like that's a good thing to come back to,
00:20:58
but like how can you come back when you kill off the character?
00:21:02
I don't know.
00:21:04
Speaker 3: What Nathan?
00:21:05
Yeah, oh, oh, he's not squirreling.
00:21:08
I don't know.
00:21:10
I just see him as a casualty of sarah.
00:21:13
Oh no, I get it.
00:21:14
Speaker 2: No, I'm not, I'm not, it's just they could have
00:21:17
wrapped it up.
00:21:18
Speaker 3: I don't know okay, um , let's see.
00:21:22
When, asked if she has anyone back at home, sarah says no.
00:21:27
Before they came here, things weren't good for her.
00:21:29
Nathan saved her.
00:21:31
She asked Christy if there was something that she could do,
00:21:34
something that would let you see Marielle again.
00:21:38
Let everyone go home, even if it was something bad, would you
00:21:43
it?
00:21:43
And christy asked for clarification, and this is the
00:21:47
important question.
00:21:49
Speaker 2: Well, this is the question of the whole show.
00:21:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, like how far are you willing, you know, to
00:21:54
act in order to go home?
00:21:57
I?
00:21:57
Speaker 2: mean because christy, christy basically gave her the
00:22:01
license to do what she did yeah, not knowingly.
00:22:06
I'm not saying it's christy's fault, but at the same time it's
00:22:09
not not christy's fault and, and you know, I mean it's not
00:22:13
really her fault, but it's just yeah, christy, didn't know what,
00:22:19
christy didn't know, she didn't know what was going on you know
00:22:22
, and she just says it's a lot of good for one bad thing if
00:22:26
everybody gets to go home.
00:22:27
I think, though, that it just played very well.
00:22:39
Right now, everybody hates her.
00:22:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right now.
00:22:47
Everybody hates her, yeah, and she's kind of a victim of
00:22:53
circumstance, which we're going to come to find out, but I feel
00:22:54
like she always allows herself to be a victim because Nathan
00:22:59
had to save her, which tells you she was a victim in that,
00:23:04
wherever she was, maybe.
00:23:06
Um, so we hit the 10th scene.
00:23:10
This is the beginning of day four for the matthews, so I want
00:23:16
to.
00:23:17
I'm trying to keep track of what day we're on.
00:23:20
So the sun is out.
00:23:22
Jim looks at the questions written on the wall while
00:23:24
Tabitha sits sleeping on the couch with a sleeping Ethan.
00:23:29
There are bubbles with tree slash crows, a road and a
00:23:35
drawing of the earth with North America, south America and part
00:23:38
of Africa, the word vortex, something written with portal.
00:23:45
It was kind of hard to read a lot of it, but I got what I got.
00:23:49
Written at the bottom of the earth question mark on South
00:23:54
America Looks like a cross on North America between US and
00:23:59
Canada.
00:23:59
Creature slash biological question mark Real question mark
00:24:04
Alien question mark real question mark alien question
00:24:07
mark.
00:24:07
Do they feed on dot, dot, dot?
00:24:10
Where do they go?
00:24:12
Do they sleep?
00:24:13
And then Tabitha wakes up.
00:24:16
She tells him to tell her that he's figured it out and he and
00:24:21
the kids that he did and the answer is 12.
00:24:24
Yeah, I love that.
00:24:28
Yeah, he wants to go over it again, which is what you do.
00:24:31
Everyone enters from different parts of the country on
00:24:34
different roads, so we're getting a little bit of
00:24:36
exposition here in different places, and they all see the
00:24:40
same tree, the same crows.
00:24:44
She interrupts him and says that everyone here has asked the
00:24:48
same question over and over again.
00:24:50
How will writing these questions on the wall make a
00:24:53
difference?
00:24:53
And Jim says there's plenty in the world.
00:24:55
That doesn't make sense.
00:24:57
Something here is missing.
00:24:59
We just can't see it yet, but we will.
00:25:02
Tabitha says there's one question that they haven't asked
00:25:06
and he gives her the marker, but she refuses and says it's
00:25:09
crazy and she doesn't want to know the answer.
00:25:12
So then we go to the 11th scene , where it's the clinic exterior
00:25:18
front door.
00:25:18
Christy walks Sarah out, asks again if she wants some oatmeal.
00:25:23
Sarah says she's not really hungry and thanks her for for
00:25:26
last night.
00:25:26
Christie invites her to do it again as Nathan approaches them.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: Right.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: Sarah says that he's very persistent.
00:25:34
Christie asks if she's okay.
00:25:36
Sarah says that he cares a lot and he does, cause his sister is
00:25:41
nuts.
00:25:41
Apparently, sarah joined Nathan .
00:25:43
Command that nathan is up early .
00:25:46
He says that they need to talk.
00:25:48
She apologizes for worrying him .
00:25:51
He says he needs to know what happened.
00:25:53
She says that she was standing in the diner one minute and the
00:25:58
next she was on the floor and doesn't remember much other than
00:26:01
that.
00:26:02
He asked why she's suddenly acting like everything is okay.
00:26:06
She says she needs to get to the diner.
00:26:09
He tries to stop her and she says she's okay and that she
00:26:13
loves him and walks off and it's like it's.
00:26:19
She can't be reasoned with.
00:26:22
She can't.
00:26:23
She won't give him any information.
00:26:26
She wants him to be involved when she wants him to be.
00:26:30
Speaker 2: She wants him to solve a problem, but she won't
00:26:32
give him all the pieces.
00:26:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, yeah.
00:26:37
So the 12th scene is colony house interior, julie's little
00:26:42
bed chamber.
00:26:43
Fatima says knock, knock, while julie is on her bed writing in
00:26:47
a journal.
00:26:47
Julie is making a list of all the people that are probably
00:26:51
wondering where they are right now, and fatima, um, she thinks
00:26:58
it's worse for them not knowing.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: fatima made the same your mic, you keep, you keep
00:27:03
getting your mic with that when you move all your stuff oh, I'm
00:27:06
sorry yeah, no, it's like, it's like it's jarring.
00:27:10
I'm sorry no, that's okay, I just want to let you know, so
00:27:12
you didn't keep doing it, that's all okay, I'm so sorry, dear
00:27:16
listeners.
00:27:17
Speaker 3: no, I made one mistake.
00:27:18
I mean, fate made one list and thinks that everyone else has
00:27:21
two julie lists off who's on hers?
00:27:24
She doesn't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend.
00:27:26
Fatima says they need some fun and to get dressed and meet her
00:27:30
downstairs in five minutes.
00:27:32
So colony house exterior, interior shed.
00:27:37
Fatima goes to Ellis who is sculpting, tells him no more
00:27:42
work because Julie is making the list, suggests that they go to
00:27:46
Brundle's Right.
00:27:48
The 14th scene is colony interior.
00:27:52
Julie sits at a window thinking and looks like she's crying.
00:27:56
Fatima comes to her.
00:27:57
There you are.
00:27:58
I've been looking everywhere for you.
00:28:00
What's wrong?
00:28:01
I think maybe I made a mistake because Julie's second guessing
00:28:06
her colony house choice.
00:28:07
Fatima, it was hard for me too at first.
00:28:12
I'll tell you a secret.
00:28:13
It helped once I figured out how to get my clothes back from
00:28:17
Trudy.
00:28:17
You know, what.
00:28:21
I think that's a scene from last week.
00:28:25
It was Sorry everybody.
00:28:28
So the true 14th scene is the gas station bar exterior, and
00:28:34
this is a fun scene.
00:28:37
Jade is walking along with the radio under his arm and talking
00:28:41
to himself.
00:28:42
Just a fucking idiot.
00:28:45
That's special relativity.
00:28:48
So special relativity is an explanation of how speed affects
00:28:53
mass, time and space.
00:28:55
The theory includes a way for the speed of light to define the
00:28:59
relationship between energy and matter.
00:29:01
Small amounts of mass can be interchangeable with enormous
00:29:06
amounts of energy, as defined by the classic equation that we
00:29:11
all can recite and not necessarily understand what it
00:29:14
means.
00:29:14
But E equals MC squared.
00:29:16
And of course, anytime you think of that equation, you
00:29:21
think of Einstein.
00:29:22
Now, relativity is two related theories special relativity,
00:29:29
which explains the relationship between space, time, mass and
00:29:32
energy, and general relativity, which describes how gravity fits
00:29:36
into the mix.
00:29:37
So gravity acts on everything, but not all at the same rate of
00:29:46
force.
00:29:46
So gravity is less on the moon than it is here on Earth, and
00:29:54
out in space it's totally different, you know, just out
00:29:58
there in the void.
00:29:58
But there is gravity because that's how stars are formed.
00:30:03
When dust and rocks and ice and stuff come close enough to each
00:30:09
other.
00:30:09
They start to gather and they pull in other particles of dust,
00:30:15
rocks, ice rocks, whatever, all that stuff.
00:30:19
So Jade is just going back and forth trying to figure out what
00:30:28
this place is and he's approaching it from a scientific
00:30:31
point of view.
00:30:33
So he says oh, klein Hardee's, klein Hardee's, einstein,
00:30:39
poldolsky, rosen he says he's just figured it out.
00:30:43
Rosen, he says he's just figured it out.
00:30:45
And this is the Einstein.
00:30:47
Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen introduced a thought experiment
00:30:55
to argue that quantum mechanics was not a complete physical
00:30:56
theory, known today as the EPR Einstein, podolsky and Rosen
00:31:01
paradox.
00:31:01
The thought experiment was meant to demonstrate the innate
00:31:06
conceptual difficulties of quantum theory.
00:31:08
Above my pay grade at this time of night.
00:31:14
So all of a sudden the fun part of this scene rings out it's
00:31:17
Trudy, and she says where are you going with that?
00:31:21
And he's pulled out of his thoughts and turns to see her on
00:31:24
the porch.
00:31:25
She asks if that's a radio.
00:31:27
He says sort of.
00:31:29
And she asks why he's carrying it around and he tells her it
00:31:31
helps him to think.
00:31:32
She tells him that he is even cuter when he's awake and she
00:31:38
tells him that she watched him when he was sleeping and tells
00:31:42
him that she's Trudy.
00:31:43
She tells him that it's too bad that he chose the town because
00:31:48
she would have ridden him like an alabaster dragon, and then
00:31:53
she walks away.
00:31:56
Jade walks into the bar, apparently needing a drink.
00:31:59
So the next scene is the sheriff's office interior.
00:32:05
Boyd sits at his desk looking at the lamp.
00:32:08
Kenny enters.
00:32:09
Good morning, sheriff.
00:32:11
I stopped by the diner to let my mom know that Sarah's okay,
00:32:15
he's holding some Tupperware with bread, things that Boyd
00:32:18
likes, and that Mrs Lou makes a fresh bread.
00:32:22
Sheriff.
00:32:22
Yep, boyd doesn't take notice of Kenny.
00:32:26
And then finally, boyd says I'm going to need you to hold down
00:32:28
the fort for a little bit.
00:32:29
Kenny wonders if everything is okay and Boyd says that it is.
00:32:33
Boyd grabs a talisman and says he's going to visit his wife.
00:32:37
It's been a while.
00:32:39
Boyd leaves and Kenny sits down at the desk and opens up the
00:32:43
Tupperware and goes for the bread.
00:32:45
I don't know why Boyd didn't take it with him.
00:32:48
So now we're back to the bar.
00:32:49
It's a busy makeshift bar.
00:32:52
Customers are drinking.
00:32:54
Jade stands in wonderment what the hell you guys built a bar in
00:32:58
this fucking place.
00:32:59
Tom says yeah, you end up in a place like this.
00:33:02
You ask yourself what do people need?
00:33:04
Turns out it's not a fucking gas station.
00:33:08
So I figured hey, you know, are you okay?
00:33:12
And Jade says no, no, I'm not okay, are you okay?
00:33:15
Tom says he's great and pours Jade a drink that I don't know.
00:33:26
I think maybe Tom was a mole you know what?
00:33:30
Speaker 2: I guess he's not because he's dead yeah, taking
00:33:34
him out.
00:33:34
Speaker 3: Maybe his um shift was over, I don't know.
00:33:38
Um.
00:33:40
Jade says what the fuck?
00:33:43
How you?
00:33:44
Why are you all still sitting here?
00:33:46
He yells to the room and takes a drink from Tom's potato vodka
00:33:51
and spits it out and he's like holy fuck, what is this shit?
00:33:54
If this had been an escape room , this potato vodka would have
00:33:58
gone one step too far.
00:34:00
So that's just a throwback to Toby him.
00:34:05
Toby has set him up with the ultimate um escape room.
00:34:09
Tom tells him it's the poor man's potato vodka.
00:34:13
In a teasing way, jake takes another squig and is just as
00:34:16
disgusted by it.
00:34:17
Tom says you're one of the guys from the two cars and jade
00:34:20
groans your friend, uh, got, yeah, yeah, look it's.
00:34:23
If it's any consolation, it gets easier.
00:34:26
I don't know how that can be a consolation.
00:34:28
Jade scoffs and tells Tom that's rich.
00:34:32
You know you guys are.
00:34:33
You're like rats in a maze sitting there contentedly
00:34:37
nibbling on your cheese.
00:34:38
This is a paradox.
00:34:40
That's the problem.
00:34:41
Jade stands up with a drink in his hand.
00:34:44
The immediate question is how do we get home?
00:34:47
Right, how do we get out?
00:34:49
How do we get out of here?
00:34:50
Because unless we know where here is, we can't get out of
00:34:55
here and he's got a pretty, pretty important point there,
00:35:00
because, like, how do you go a to b when you don't know where a
00:35:04
is?
00:35:04
Speaker 2: and he starts throwing the darts, which makes
00:35:06
it.
00:35:06
If you don't know where your starting point is, how are you
00:35:09
supposed to?
00:35:10
Speaker 3: it's like it's like.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: It's like trying to sail without the stars yeah,
00:35:15
exactly so.
00:35:18
Speaker 3: Um, you're just throwing darts blind.
00:35:21
You don't even fucking know where the fucking target is.
00:35:23
You don't even know where the fucking target is.
00:35:25
Maybe it's just over.
00:35:25
Know where the fucking target is.
00:35:26
Maybe it's just over here, I don't know.
00:35:27
Maybe it's just like it went that way because Jade is
00:35:30
throwing darts at every which direction Tom steps in to stop
00:35:34
him.
00:35:34
Jade is getting nuts.
00:35:35
Jade concludes that eventually you just give up and accept that
00:35:39
you can't get out because you have no idea where you're trying
00:35:42
to get out of.
00:35:44
So you sit around drinking your acidic potato piss water that
00:35:49
you call vodka.
00:35:51
Tom has sat down with Jim at a table Not Jim Jade, sorry.
00:35:56
He has a bottle in hand and is ready to keep Jade refilled.
00:36:00
Interesting Tom says let me guess you're going to be the guy
00:36:04
that figures this all out.
00:36:05
Jade assures him that he is indeed that guy.
00:36:09
People like me we design the maze, we place the cheese.
00:36:13
I don't know what you did before you got here, but I just
00:36:16
sold a company for an obscene amount of money based on quantum
00:36:20
computing algorithm with the potential to and he pauses I'm
00:36:25
not supposed to be here.
00:36:26
I'm not supposed to be celebrating.
00:36:27
I'm supposed to be celebrating right now.
00:36:29
Look, we can't get out of here unless we know where it is, so
00:36:38
um and they start to talk about stroding, stroding, I can't say
00:36:41
it, right, the cat oh, shright, shright.
00:36:46
Why schreudinger's cat?
00:36:48
Speaker 2: I can't believe, I can't say it all of a sudden I
00:36:50
mean the bottom line about this scene is yes, the bottom line
00:36:54
about this scene is jade learns that he's not the only idiot
00:36:57
that's tried to figure this out and he needs to just shut the
00:37:01
fuck up and do what he does.
00:37:02
But you know what?
00:37:03
I'm sorry.
00:37:05
Like you know, I'm a bartender, but I people don't want to hear
00:37:10
what I have to say, so I'm making liquor, you know, I mean.
00:37:13
I don't know about that.
00:37:14
No, he's a philosopher from UCLA, he's a, you know, tom, tom
00:37:20
is an educated person, but they're also, they're also there
00:37:23
.
00:37:23
You know you can't be on defcom one every day when, when you've
00:37:29
been there for months, you know it's, it's kind of like the
00:37:33
pandemic and you get over it.
00:37:34
You have to kind of live your life and I think that that's the
00:37:38
thing that, um, that jade just doesn't understand right now.
00:37:42
You know they're all like go, go, go, go, go.
00:37:44
Well, yeah, you're the new guy, and then you realize you can't
00:37:47
go anywhere.
00:37:47
So I mean I thought that was a good scene.
00:37:51
Speaker 3: I mean I thought that was a good scene, but to me
00:37:57
tom's behavior just added to my mole theory and uh I, I did not.
00:38:05
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you could, you could say that, but I
00:38:08
could also see him just being like dude.
00:38:10
We're here like chill the fuck out, have a have a drink, and
00:38:17
you know, if he had come in, I mean tom, tom could have come in
00:38:23
, come, but Tom could have acted a little bit different knowing
00:38:29
that Jade was brand new.
00:38:31
But he's also conditioned like dude.
00:38:41
I know where you've been, like you're not the first person
00:38:44
that's thought about all these things.
00:38:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my point .
00:38:47
That's my point, yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker 2: I mean, and everybody goes to the bar.
00:38:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, ethan.
00:38:58
Speaker 2: Maybe next year.
00:39:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see there was something All right.
00:39:15
Yeah, let's see there was something all right.
00:39:16
Then sarah goes.
00:39:17
Just, he compares schrodinger, schrodinger's cat, which we know
00:39:18
is like the cat is in the box, the cat is dead, the cat is
00:39:20
alive.
00:39:20
But to the people back home they're the cat because they're
00:39:27
alive and they're dead at the same time, because people back
00:39:31
home don't know the final status of these people.
00:39:35
So anyway, tom is just, I don't know.
00:39:44
He's trying to get Jade to think and I think that he brings
00:39:50
up that theory because of that.
00:39:52
He, you know, jade was, you know, talking about EPR before
00:39:58
he was coming in the door, tom being a philosopher teacher,
00:40:03
philosophy teacher.
00:40:05
He's going to also tie Jaden knots, you know, in thought.
00:40:12
So, at any rate, we move on to the town in front of the
00:40:18
Matthews house.
00:40:19
Sarah stands in front of the Matthews house.
00:40:21
She pulls the scaffold from her skirt pocket, puts it back in
00:40:25
and walks to the door of the house.
00:40:28
Now we're in the Matthews house.
00:40:29
In the bedroom Tabitha is checking Ethan's wound and she
00:40:33
changes the dressing.
00:40:34
He says it's just a little sore .
00:40:37
Tabitha is astonished at how fast it's healing.
00:40:41
Ethan thinks this place is special.
00:40:43
He knows it tries to hurt people, but maybe it tries to
00:40:49
help people too.
00:40:49
So maybe it tries to help hurt people which the Matthews family
00:40:55
are.
00:40:55
Maybe that one of the questions on the wall is is there anyone
00:41:00
trying to help?
00:41:01
That's what Ethan's question is .
00:41:04
Jim yells that Ethan has a visitor.
00:41:07
So downstairs Ethan greets Sarah and, um, he points out the
00:41:13
writing on the wall.
00:41:14
Tabitha asks how Sarah's feeling and if Christy figured
00:41:17
out what was wrong.
00:41:18
And Sarah, she says not yet.
00:41:20
And that's just one of those things.
00:41:23
Sarah and Ethan decide to go to the playground outside.
00:41:26
Ethan takes her to the merry-go-round, saying it's his
00:41:30
favorite, and we only see Sarah on the merry-go-round, with the
00:41:34
town moving in the background, sort of like the boy in white.
00:41:38
Now we're at the church exterior.
00:41:41
Nathan walks up to the door and goes in.
00:41:43
We're inside.
00:41:45
Nathan enters and calls out for Father Cautry as he comes
00:41:49
deeper into the church and passes the pulpit and there's no
00:41:52
answer.
00:41:53
Now we're at the forest, at the Brundles.
00:41:58
It's a swimming hole with a long dock and everyone swims
00:42:02
there.
00:42:02
I don't know, would you feel comfortable swimming there?
00:42:08
Speaker 2: You know what, if you're there long enough, you do
00:42:11
what you got to do and that's what's normal, but that's the
00:42:14
Lake of Tears.
00:42:14
So you know, maybe they get some extra something, something,
00:42:18
but yeah, no, it would be pretty scary.
00:42:21
Speaker 3: I mean, the good news is the good news, but the good
00:42:24
news is it's during the day, so it's not like they're coming out
00:42:27
of it yeah, but it's dark underneath the water, like it
00:42:31
might be dark enough for them to swim up and grab their feet and
00:42:33
drag them down into the pits of that cave and eat them.
00:42:37
I don't know, that's, I don't know.
00:42:40
So anyway, they just have a nice swimming afternoon and they
00:42:47
just need to show off.
00:42:48
Speaker 2: They need to show off all the kids without any
00:42:51
clothes why was anyone naked?
00:42:54
I thought they were well, no, they're all bathing suits.
00:42:56
I'm saying you know so like you know, cordy, and has to be like
00:43:00
shirtless and you know yeah they have to get their.
00:43:03
They got to get their money's worth with them, you know okay,
00:43:06
I see.
00:43:08
Speaker 3: So fatima says, if you close your eyes, this could
00:43:11
be anywhere else in the world right and julie's like how do
00:43:15
you stay so positive?
00:43:16
And she says it depends on how you choose to look at it.
00:43:18
She didn't come to the us until she was 11 and grew up with in
00:43:22
iran with her parents and two older brothers.
00:43:25
Her father was an outspoken cleric, which they tend to not
00:43:29
do well in iran um.
00:43:33
Speaker 2: Clerics never do well in any situation when there's
00:43:35
controversy.
00:43:37
Speaker 3: Well, they do if they are toting the party line.
00:43:41
Speaker 2: True.
00:43:42
Speaker 3: Um, so let's see, this day was going to be one of
00:43:47
the best one, until some men came to the door and her father
00:43:50
was killed.
00:43:51
Her point is that there will always be monsters in the world
00:43:55
and that she will never let them scare the life out of her.
00:43:59
Speaker 2: I mean realistically.
00:44:00
I mean, like for her living in the Middle East, the way, as
00:44:08
crazy as it is, not that?
00:44:10
Not that it's the same in any way.
00:44:12
I'm not trying to make that, but, like you, look at what's
00:44:16
going on today.
00:44:17
At least you know when they're coming at you.
00:44:20
It's at night, you know.
00:44:22
I mean, at least you know it's.
00:44:24
And they have a defense because they've got a talisman so I you
00:44:28
know not that, not that this is easier, because it's not, but
00:44:32
it's sure as hell not worse.
00:44:34
So at least least you know who's coming at you.
00:44:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe in Iran you think you're safer
00:44:41
because you are a cleric and they revere religion so highly.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Unless you're the religion.
00:44:49
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's the same religion.
00:44:51
The only problem was that he was outspoken.
00:44:53
So yeah.
00:44:54
All right.
00:44:56
So now we are back at the playground.
00:44:59
Ethan pushes the merry-go-round while Sarah rides it.
00:45:02
Tabitha looks from the window, thinking Ethan is acting like
00:45:06
himself.
00:45:06
Ethan asks Sarah how long she's been there and she says just a
00:45:11
few months, tells her that his parents are trying to figure out
00:45:14
where they are so they can all go home, because that's what the
00:45:18
promenade would do.
00:45:20
And she asked what the promenade is.
00:45:22
Speaker 2: She's like you're not going anywhere, I'm killing
00:45:24
your ass.
00:45:25
Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
00:45:26
Tabitha comments that Sarah is a sweet girl.
00:45:30
Tabitha goes out and tells Ethan not to make Sarah sit
00:45:33
there because it's filthy, and Sarah says it's OK and fun not
00:45:38
to make Sarah sit there because it's filthy, and Sarah says it's
00:45:40
okay and fun.
00:45:40
Ethan tells Tabitha that Sarah said that they can go see the
00:45:42
goats and chickens at the barn.
00:45:43
Sarah tells Tabitha that Nathan tends to the animals.
00:45:46
When Tabitha says she's going to tell Jim that they are going
00:45:50
to the barn, sarah quickly says that she can take Ethan.
00:45:53
Jim is walking along the wall with a marker in his hand
00:45:56
thinking when Tabitha tells him that they're going to the barn.
00:46:00
So Tabitha really puts a crank in Sarah's plan.
00:46:08
So now we're back in the forest and it's a clearing at Abby's
00:46:12
grave.
00:46:12
Boyd walks down the path to Abby's grave and he says hey,
00:46:16
babe, it's been a while Things have been well.
00:46:18
They've been a little crazy these past few days.
00:46:21
Those things they got into the house where the little girl
00:46:26
lived.
00:46:26
They got into the clinic.
00:46:28
You know we were doing pretty good there for a while keeping
00:46:31
everything together.
00:46:32
It was almost starting to feel like well, he takes off his
00:46:36
jacket and he started getting tremors in my hand a few weeks
00:46:40
back.
00:46:40
Same way it started with my dad , which means the clock is
00:46:44
officially ticking.
00:46:46
Speaker 2: I like this.
00:46:47
I like this because it really sets up the episode where they
00:46:51
bring her in.
00:46:52
Yeah, it really does.
00:46:54
I mean, they give it enough that you want to know exactly
00:46:58
what happens, but once you find out what happens it, it really
00:47:02
kind of makes this even more emotional.
00:47:06
Speaker 3: My question, though, is why is this place speeding up
00:47:11
the healing for Ethan while it's speeding up the
00:47:15
degeneration of Boyd?
00:47:19
Speaker 2: Well, who's to say that he has Parkinson's?
00:47:24
Speaker 3: I don't know what he has.
00:47:25
Speaker 2: No, but my point being is the same way, you know,
00:47:29
sarah's got the squirmies in her.
00:47:31
He could have something to put undue stress on him.
00:47:38
You know?
00:47:42
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
00:47:51
Speaker 3: That's just my question.
00:47:52
His crazy.
00:47:56
He has a crazy idea that might work and might be able to get
00:47:59
everyone home.
00:48:00
If he fails, then leaving everyone in a worse off position
00:48:04
.
00:48:04
But we don't know what this plan is.
00:48:06
Abby was always the one to make the hard calls.
00:48:09
If he can get them home, it's the biggest swing he can take.
00:48:13
He doesn't believe in signs, but asks for one from her
00:48:17
because he needs help.
00:48:19
So we're in another part of a clearing where there's standing
00:48:25
stones and it's a circle of standing stones in a field of
00:48:29
flowers.
00:48:29
Katri is sitting outside at his rock when Nathan approaches.
00:48:34
Katri asks, nathan asks if Nathan comes up here much, and
00:48:38
Nathan says no.
00:48:39
Khatri says strange, a place like this could exist in a place
00:48:44
like this, because it's peaceful, it's beautiful, you
00:48:48
know.
00:48:48
So Nathan asks what the rules are when it comes to confession.
00:48:53
If he tells Khatri something, does it stay between the two of
00:48:57
them?
00:48:57
Katri says that it stays between them and God.
00:49:01
But if it's really bad, nathan, but what if it's really bad?
00:49:05
Nathan asks, and we don't get that answer other than later.
00:49:09
We see them running, but now we're at the farm outside.
00:49:14
Sarah introduces Ethan to the animals by name.
00:49:17
Now we're at the farm outside.
00:49:19
Sarah introduces Ethan to the animals by name.
00:49:21
Tabitha and Ethan are enjoying themselves.
00:49:23
Sarah tells Tabitha that Ethan is a little sweetheart.
00:49:26
She's so insincere.
00:49:28
Speaker 2: Tabitha yeah, no, she's sincere, he is a
00:49:33
sweetheart, it's just that.
00:49:34
You know she's a very conflicted person.
00:49:37
Speaker 3: I know, but the way she says it.
00:49:40
Speaker 2: No, I get it.
00:49:40
No, I get it.
00:49:42
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:49:42
Maybe it's because I know what her intention with him is, but
00:49:47
the way she says it, it just rings hollow to me.
00:49:50
So Tabitha says that being sad and afraid is the one thing
00:49:56
everyone in the town agrees on.
00:49:58
Sarah says that this will quickly become normal.
00:50:01
Tabitha doesn't want it to become normal, she just wants to
00:50:04
go home.
00:50:05
Sarah says that at least they have the talismans.
00:50:09
Katri talks about how much worse it was for people after dark
00:50:13
hiding, hoping not to be found.
00:50:15
The hiding places are all over town and it's good to know about
00:50:19
them in case you get stuck outside after dark.
00:50:22
So this is her setting a trap for Tabitha.
00:50:26
Sarah says that there's one in the barn that she can show her.
00:50:29
Tabitha and Sarah go into the barn.
00:50:32
So we're back at the clearing.
00:50:36
At the the standing stones, katri jumps up saying that
00:50:40
nathan should have come to him much sooner.
00:50:42
Nathan is concerned that sarah will go in the box.
00:50:45
Katri intends to keep his word, but they need to worry about
00:50:49
the people of the town, right, um?
00:50:51
So they head to the diner.
00:50:53
I'm not exactly sure which word Katri is talking about.
00:50:58
Like promises Nathan that nothing will happen to Sarah?
00:51:03
Is that his word or just that you kill, you go into the box, I
00:51:08
don't know.
00:51:10
Speaker 2: Well, he wants it both ways, because he
00:51:12
contradicted himself.
00:51:13
He threw Frank in the box, yeah , but then he saved Sarah.
00:51:18
Speaker 3: So I mean you know like Well, yeah, box yeah, but
00:51:19
then he saved sarah.
00:51:19
So I mean you know like, well, yeah, few in the future.
00:51:21
Speaker 2: he saved sarah, but like no, but I'm just saying
00:51:24
like you know he does contradict himself.
00:51:26
Yeah I mean there's no.
00:51:28
I mean, I'm not saying that he's an awful person, it's just
00:51:30
no, he's not.
00:51:31
Speaker 3: I miss him.
00:51:32
So now we're back in the interior of the barn.
00:51:36
Sarah follows Tabitha into the barn.
00:51:38
Sarah leads Tabitha to a closet space in the back of the barn,
00:51:42
opens the door, pushes Tabitha in.
00:51:44
He, she locks the door and tells Tabitha that she's doing
00:51:48
this for her and all of them.
00:51:49
And then Tabitha begs to be let out.
00:51:53
Of course, right.
00:51:53
So she's banging Outside.
00:51:58
Katri and Nathan head toward the diner.
00:52:00
Boyd sees Katri and stops him, you know, just to have a chat.
00:52:04
Boyd holds up the boat key as he waves to Katri and then puts
00:52:07
it in his pocket.
00:52:08
He has a weird question for him .
00:52:11
If someone asked for a sign, how would they know what they
00:52:13
were looking for?
00:52:14
You know, katri doesn't really have time for that right now.
00:52:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not looking for philosophical,
00:52:20
religious questions right now.
00:52:22
Speaker 3: Right.
00:52:22
So now we're in the interior of the diner.
00:52:26
Nathan's looking for Sarah.
00:52:27
Tom is at the counter eating.
00:52:29
Nathan calls for Sarah.
00:52:31
Tom tells him that Sarah isn't there and that he saw her
00:52:35
heading to the barn with Tabitha and Ethan.
00:52:37
So now we're at the exterior.
00:52:40
Ethan is feeding the goats as Sarah comes out of the barn.
00:52:43
Ethan asks where his mom is.
00:52:45
Sarah kneels in front of him with her hands behind her back
00:52:49
and says she needs to tell him something.
00:52:52
I bet she does.
00:52:54
In the interior, tabitha is banging against the door and
00:53:00
calling for Sarah and Ethan.
00:53:01
No one's hearing her.
00:53:02
The exterior of the barn, sarah says she really likes him and
00:53:06
that's that.
00:53:07
What's about to happen is going to save everyone.
00:53:11
Just like one of your stories.
00:53:13
You get to be the hero.
00:53:14
She shows him the scalpel in her hand behind her back.
00:53:18
Oh, wait, a minute.
00:53:19
They show.
00:53:20
The show shows us that that it's behind in her hand, behind
00:53:23
her back.
00:53:24
Ethan asks where his mom is again and that he wants his mom.
00:53:27
She grabs his arm.
00:53:29
Nathan gets to the barn and calls her name and asks what
00:53:32
she's doing.
00:53:33
Sarah says this is how we go home.
00:53:36
As Nathan advances toward her, this is the last one, and then
00:53:41
everyone gets to go home.
00:53:44
So my question is do you think she killed anyone else besides
00:53:55
Toby?
00:53:55
And now the attempt on Ethan.
00:53:57
Do you think there was?
00:53:58
Speaker 2: probably.
00:53:59
I mean, but again, we have no backstory, so we don't know, we
00:54:05
don't know how long the squirrely things have been in
00:54:07
her arm yeah, um.
00:54:09
Speaker 3: So tabitha is screaming ethan's name from
00:54:12
inside the barn.
00:54:12
Ethan kicks Sarah's leg and runs.
00:54:15
Nathan tells Ethan to run.
00:54:17
Nathan comes up behind Sarah and wraps his arms around her.
00:54:22
Grabbing her arms.
00:54:23
She turns quickly and slices Nathan's neck and he starts
00:54:28
bleeding like he didn't stand a chance.
00:54:30
She realizes what she's done while Nathan dies in front of
00:54:34
her and collapses.
00:54:35
Katri approaches as Sarah cries .
00:54:37
Now we're at Colony House exterior.
00:54:42
Ellis, fatima, julie return from Brundle's.
00:54:44
Julie tells them that they're right, it's not all bad here.
00:54:48
Ethan comes running up the hill crying for Julie.
00:54:51
Julie tries to figure out what's wrong In the barn.
00:54:55
Tabitha hears the scream out in the barnyard Outside the barn.
00:55:00
Jim and other townspeople run toward the barn.
00:55:03
Jim calls Tabitha and Ethan's names.
00:55:05
Tabitha screams from inside the barn for someone to help her.
00:55:09
Jim gets to the barn and hears her and frees her.
00:55:12
She immediately asks for Ethan.
00:55:15
She comes out of the barn to townspeople standing around
00:55:19
watching what's happened.
00:55:20
Jim and Tabitha scream for Ethan.
00:55:23
Julie can be heard screaming for them in the distance as she
00:55:27
approaches.
00:55:28
Ellis and Fatima are with her and Ellis carries Ethan.
00:55:34
The family reunites.
00:55:35
Christy arrives and starts examining Nathan and concludes
00:55:40
that it's too late.
00:55:41
Boyd and she exchange glances.
00:55:44
Katri appears to come from the woods, looks at Boyd and shakes
00:55:48
his head.
00:55:48
No, boyd looks back at Sarah kneeling over Nathan.
00:55:52
Now we're on the exterior road in town.
00:55:57
Matthew's family walks back to their house.
00:55:59
Um, we're in the sheriff's office or at the sheriff's
00:56:09
office exterior.
00:56:10
Cotri tells boyd that he was too late.
00:56:13
Boydd stops the Matthews family as they pass, ask how Ethan is.
00:56:18
Jim tells Tabitha and the kids to go ahead.
00:56:21
They walk on.
00:56:22
Jim asks where Sarah is.
00:56:24
Katri says she ran off to the woods.
00:56:27
Jim and Boyd, if she comes back before dark then we'll handle
00:56:32
it, and if she doesn't if she doesn't then it's handled.
00:56:36
So he's alluding to the fact that the monsters will get her
00:56:41
and they won't have to do anything about that.
00:56:43
Jim says she came into my house .
00:56:47
She played with my kid.
00:56:49
Boyd and Katri try to calm him.
00:56:52
Jim, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
00:56:55
You talk like this place is fucking Mayberry, one big family
00:57:00
.
00:57:00
Is that what you said?
00:57:01
Are you fucking kidding me?
00:57:03
Boyd and Katri don't know what to say.
00:57:05
And then Jim walks away.
00:57:07
Jim, although he knows this place is wacky, he keeps
00:57:14
expecting a normal response that he would have gotten in the
00:57:19
outside world yeah, well, he's still.
00:57:21
Speaker 2: It's only been a couple of days in so right still
00:57:23
not acclimated.
00:57:25
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I don't know how anyone gets
00:57:28
acclimated if you're not victor, but look how long it's taken
00:57:31
him.
00:57:32
So inside the matthews living room, tabitha sits on the couch
00:57:37
hugging Ethan and soothing him.
00:57:38
Jim paces helplessly.
00:57:41
Tabitha asked Julie where she found him and Julie says that
00:57:45
they were just coming back.
00:57:47
He was running up the hill toward Colony House.
00:57:49
Jim tells her she did good.
00:57:51
Tabitha asked Julie to take Ethan upstairs and they go.
00:57:54
Tabitha gets a marker and writes on the wall Did we
00:57:59
survive the crash?
00:58:00
And I think, before all this nuttiness, it's not something
00:58:09
that she wanted to admit out loud.
00:58:12
Speaker 2: Right.
00:58:13
No, it's not what you want to talk about, but I mean, at this
00:58:16
point you have a hot second and maybe that's what it really is,
00:58:20
kind of thing.
00:58:21
Speaker 3: Sarah, asking her what she'd do to go home.
00:58:25
Boyd tells her that it's not her fault.
00:58:27
Christy says it was nice to hang out with Sarah and that
00:58:42
Sarah took the scalpel from the clinic and she feels responsible
00:58:44
for that.
00:58:44
Boyd tells her that she did not bring them there, nor did she
00:58:49
put the thoughts in Sarah's head , and that a few nights ago she
00:58:53
saved Ethan's life.
00:58:56
Before this is done so, give yourself some slack not that it
00:59:03
makes it okay, but sarah did kill her own brother.
00:59:07
It doesn't make everything okay , but it's not like she ended up
00:59:13
killing Ethan.
00:59:14
Anyway, boyd, he takes her hands and asks for a favor for
00:59:23
her to cut herself some slack.
00:59:25
Speaker 2: Right, exactly the jukebox starts playing.
00:59:28
Speaker 3: If I had a Boat by Lyle Lovett Boyd looks at the
00:59:31
jukebox and says that he just got his sign.
00:59:34
Now I don't know if you have the words printed out or if you
00:59:39
have them handy.
00:59:41
Speaker 2: I do Okay.
00:59:43
Speaker 3: So if we go down one, two, three, the fourth stanza,
00:59:52
it says the mystery masked man was smart.
00:59:55
He got himself a Tonto, because Tonto did the dirty work for
01:00:00
free.
01:00:01
But Tonto, he was smarter, and one day he said Kima Sabe, well,
01:00:07
kiss my ass, I bought a boat, I'm going out to sea.
01:00:10
There you go.
01:00:12
Speaker 2: What?
01:00:12
What do you think?
01:00:13
No, there you go what.
01:00:15
What do you think?
01:00:17
No, I mean, you know basically.
01:00:25
Speaker 3: You want me to go in?
01:00:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I don't care.
01:00:29
What do you think?
01:00:30
I really, at this point I have no idea.
01:00:32
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:00:32
So what I'm thinking is that the masked man is whatever
01:00:41
drives the town Like we don't know who that person is right,
01:00:46
but they get a tanto, meaning the people of the town to act
01:00:51
like they're puppets and do things that they wouldn't
01:00:56
necessarily normally do.
01:00:58
I don't think that Sarah would have been killing people, but if
01:01:06
they pull her strings, that's what she's going to do.
01:01:09
So that's what I think it is.
01:01:13
You know, especially when we go into second season and you know
01:01:17
, boyd ends up with Martin and doing you know what he does.
01:01:22
Speaker 2: Right.
01:01:25
Speaker 3: Then the next one, if you go down two more stanzas.
01:01:27
The sixth one.
01:01:28
It says and if I were like lightning, I wouldn't need no
01:01:32
sneakers.
01:01:32
I'd come and go wherever I would please and I'd scare him
01:01:37
by the shade tree and I'd scare him by the light pole, but I
01:01:41
would not scare my pony on my boat out on the sea.
01:01:44
So what that tells me is that there's a limit to this, that
01:01:53
whatever runs this place, that whatever runs this place, that
01:01:58
there's a limit, they won't go too far.
01:02:02
So they're doing their deeds and that's about it, I guess is
01:02:14
what I'm saying.
01:02:14
Speaker 2: Well, he's got a.
01:02:15
He feels that he's gotta get his boat or his plan and and go
01:02:22
and and go out to sea, whatever that means to him right now.
01:02:27
Speaker 3: Yeah I mean it just tells me they're all ponds yeah,
01:02:31
well they've.
01:02:33
Speaker 2: They've proven that in the second season and they've
01:02:35
proven that in the first season too.
01:02:37
Yeah, I mean it's just yeah, I mean it's just at this point in
01:02:46
the show there's so many questions.
01:02:48
Yeah, there's no deep dive in it, other than the fact that
01:02:53
we're still kind of waiting to figure it out.
01:02:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:02:59
Speaker 2: But do you have any other notes?
01:03:01
Speaker 3: No, that was it.
01:03:02
It was so far the most scenes we've had, but it was pretty
01:03:10
straightforward.
01:03:10
I mean, it was a matter of you know, christie making that
01:03:14
attack on Ethan, the Matthews family writing on the wall and
01:03:22
Tabitha asking the question did we survive the crash?
01:03:27
Speaker 2: Right.
01:03:31
Speaker 3: And Boyd, I don't know getting a sign from his
01:03:35
wife because this is his song you know they play the song in a
01:03:39
future episode but getting this sign that he's looking for so
01:03:43
he knows what to do.
01:03:44
So and then you know Katri telling Nathan I guess that you
01:03:56
know Sarah's not going to go in the box, but I don't know.
01:03:59
I mean, we know she doesn't, but I don't know how Khatri can
01:04:03
make Nathan that promise, given that they have a rule.
01:04:07
Speaker 2: I think he was just trying to appease them, just to
01:04:09
figure out what the hell was going on.
01:04:11
I mean, that's the only thing that I.
01:04:13
You know it was a lot of moving parts in that episode and I
01:04:19
think, I don't know, I'm a little confused.
01:04:25
I mean, I watched it a couple of times but I just I don't know
01:04:28
.
01:04:28
I know that's not what people want to hear right now, but I'm
01:04:32
just as confused as the listeners.
01:04:34
It's okay, anyway.
01:04:37
So, folks, next week we're going to be doing episode one
01:04:44
episode one season one, episode six, book 74.
01:04:49
And I think that's a really pivotal episode because it
01:04:52
really goes into father country's storyline, or his
01:04:57
backstory, and I just you know we get a lot of information
01:05:02
about him, which was nice and it was already in the sixth
01:05:06
episode.
01:05:07
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
01:05:10
I'm looking for a deeper dive into it, you know, so that we
01:05:16
can talk for two to three hours about it.
01:05:21
Speaker 2: And that's our show.
01:05:22
I'll see you next week.
01:05:23
Get your home, let's go, come on.
01:05:27
Get in your house, let's go, come on, thank you.