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Are you ready to unravel the mysteries behind your favorite TV show "From"? Join us as we welcome Andy Schruck, a die-hard fan who stumbled upon the show at LAX and quickly became hooked. Andy found himself captivated by the intense opening scene and the rich storyline, and he's thrilled to share his journey with the fandom. Together with Lizzie, who brings her extensive theories and notes, we dive into the emotional complexities of Season 3, Episode 2, "When We Go," dissecting the significant moments that leave both characters and viewers on edge.
Have you ever wondered about the hidden meanings behind Victor's mother's paintings? We do a deep analysis of the show's key locations like the diner, lighthouse, and church, and speculate on the fates of pivotal characters. From questioning Victor's mother's true fate to pondering Elgin's mysterious role in the narrative, our discussion is layered with intriguing theories and emotional insights. We even explore the historical figures in the paintings, adding a fascinating dimension to the storyline and the emotional struggles of Victor's father.
As we explore the intense dynamics and evolving relationships among the survivors, we reflect on Boyd's unraveling mental state and the tension between characters like Donna and Randall. Kenny's heartbreaking discovery and the poignant moments in the diner are also highlighted, offering a deep dive into character development and emotional resonance. Closing with our excitement for the show's growing popularity and our hopes for more episodes and merchandise, this episode captures our passion for "From" and our commitment to keeping you engaged with every twist and turn.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
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My name is Alex.
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Speaker 3: And I'm Lizzie.
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Speaker 2: Today we are talking from, because Sunday is From Day
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and we have a special special guest with us and hopefully I
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say your name right, because we're talking about names, andy
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Chirac.
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He's just kind of a super fan and connected online.
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Before we get into all the things that Andy is in terms of
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the show, I just want to say a couple of things.
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One Sunday is Frumday, and if you are a subscriber, thank you
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so much.
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And if you want to be a subscriber, all you have to do
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is hit that bell.
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Hit that whatever is on the bottom, whatever that thing is
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and whatever else.
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Also, if you're looking for Fromily shirts or anything else,
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you can go to our Etsy shop, which is what is from shop on
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Etsy, and we're selling stuff left and right, aren't we,
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lizzie?
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It's been a little brisk.
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We're working on season two poster, but we do have a season
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one poster and all that good stuff.
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But enough about selling, enough about us.
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Andy, why don't you tell us first off, did you get involved
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with this show?
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Speaker 4: I am just.
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I am just a fan, but I guess I could tell the story if you guys
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want to hear the story of how it came to my face.
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So I was at LAX and they canceled my flight at one in the
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morning and they rebooked me the fastest flight.
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The next flight they could get me on was the same flight the
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next night.
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It was like at 11 or something, and I had been on like a skate
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filming trip in LA for like three days and I had seen the
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posters for from in Hollywood there's like everything going on
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.
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There's always all these posters and they, like it caught
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my eye and of course I saw that it was from us.
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You know the producers are lost and I was like, okay, let's
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check it out.
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I like got to the LAX the next day and I had all day.
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I was just sitting in the Delta lounge and I was like, how am I
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going to kill a whole day?
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Uh, other than working.
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But I didn't want to work on to have fun and uh, I passed
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passed time by booting up from and I was actually I almost
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turned it off because the first scene is so gnarly it is so, if
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you and I'm not a scary, I don't like that kind of stuff, but
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I'm gonna tell you once you get past that it's it's a very
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important scene to have because it like shows, it shows you
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immediately.
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That's like these are the stakes .
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Um, the the first two episodes work as like one right,
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essentially, and it's it's.
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I don't understand how someone could watch those two and not
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just like just full steam ahead.
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I'm watching every episode.
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Uh, yeah, so the reason I can watch horror, I can watch scary
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stuff, but, like as a dad, it was like to me.
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I was like that scene was like intense.
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So, uh, I kept, I kept going and, um, when I got to the like
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the fifth or sixth episode, there were no more to watch and
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I was like, okay, this is not okay um, oh, and you were really
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in the beginning yeah, yeah, I like it was.
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I mean, and it's just because of posters.
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I don't I probably would have, I would have heard about it at
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some point, but I'm really excited that I got to.
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That wasn't there like day one, but that was, like you know,
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week five or six.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it was for me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love how people are starting to find the
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show.
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I found the show from Lizzie, you found the show from a poster
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and it's really taken off this season.
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And for those of you that have just joined us, I know we are
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talking to Andy about his journey with From, but we are
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talking season three, episode two, when we go, and what I'd
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like to do first.
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First, if I don't let her talk, andy, she's gonna get pissed.
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So let's, let's have, let's have our, my, my partner in
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crime.
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What's your first thoughts on the episode?
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Speaker 3: well.
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Last week was easy for taking notes, it was very
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straightforward.
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This week it was crazy.
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I can't believe everything that I have to talk about.
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Speaker 4: So much, it was a lot of information.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of information.
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I mean, this is just the first two pages.
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We're going to go this way.
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That's just pages one and two.
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Speaker 2: So, Andy, just so you know, she has her book of
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secrets.
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She also has her board of A Pain in my Ass and she is all in
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and she is ready to go.
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What was your first thoughts, Andy, on the episode?
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Speaker 4: Well, I was ready by how much this whole season is
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like hyped up, like it's going to only get darker and darker
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and darker.
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I was ready for just another punch in the gut, and I'm really
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glad that they let us just like .
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It was really beautiful that the whole cast of characters,
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they were able to like just take a beat and really like let this
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hit them, um.
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So I think, as the audience, you needed that too, like it was
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like a therapeutic, like dealing with what has happened,
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um.
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But there's definitely some things that came up that, as
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with every episode, is going to raise a question and some things
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that don't necessarily make sense.
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That's my initial thought, I guess, though.
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Speaker 2: That's fine.
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No, that's fine.
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I mean, we talked to Liz Moy last week and I was being
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delusional by saying right now, you are not dead.
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But I mean listen when they pull somebody's hair off or head
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off.
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Oh my God.
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Speaker 3: That was awful.
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That was awful.
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Speaker 2: And the other thing is, if you look at the trailer,
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it gives it away big time, and we talked about that in our
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episode when we were talking about the trailer, I'm surprised
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they didn't edit out the mural with the picture on the plate
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Right.
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Speaker 4: I'm really surprised.
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Speaker 3: That's what gave it away to me.
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Speaker 4: At the same time, you also have everyone saying
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they're probably doing that just to trick us or something, or it
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was a vision, it was a dream.
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You never know what you're actually doing.
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Speaker 2: I will say this.
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I will say this you know, when you look at the trailer and you
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start watching where the scenes are, it's really neat how it's
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coming through.
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So, andy, anytime you want to jump in in terms of a point
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where we have a little bit of a list of what we're going to do,
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please jump in.
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And if we end up going in a different direction, hey, we're,
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we're all human here and it's gonna hurt.
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You know, I'm just trying to wrestle cats, so um, the the
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first, these two episodes, like.
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Speaker 4: What's that the big thing with this episode?
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That, like, the biggest question that raised in my mind
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was like a timetable, the timetable with Victor's family.
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Yeah and like, yeah, and it's also makes me think that like
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because his dad, who's apparently 75 is, if you do the
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math, because he's like, he's like, he's like he looks good.
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We need to like, yeah, put all, he looks great for 75.
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And Victor looks more haggard from just like existing in that
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place.
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So like there's not a big level of like visual difference Cause
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like, and it makes me wonder if they're going to use that to
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say like the place ages, people like slightly faster, and then
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they could keep Ethan without explaining much.
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Speaker 2: Well, the good thing about this show, because they
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have monsters and they have all this other stuff.
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We talked about this last episode.
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The kids are getting older, yeah, and they got to explain.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to well, I mean, it
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explains itself yeah, because I mean, if you think about how
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fast ethan's leg healed, yeah like it's only been a couple
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weeks so.
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Speaker 2: But if his leg can heal that fast, then he could
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age as well but and I just thought about this right now If
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you think about young Victor, he's getting older, eliza's
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getting older, the actor that plays him, it goes along the
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lines of him looking like crap now because he's getting older
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and away we go.
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But you know what?
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I see some friends on here and then we'll get into a very
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emotional episode.
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I know people cried.
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But, lizzie, let's get into speaking of the father, Tabitha
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and Henry and Henry's understanding.
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What was, what was, what was your take on all that?
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Speaker 3: What was your take on all that?
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So gosh, I mean, I basically have one page just on Tabitha
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and Henry and I wanted to start there so we could start outside
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of from.
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I know, sorry, they did a lot so that we could start outside
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of from and then spend the rest of the time inside from and then
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spend the rest of the time inside.
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But basically, you know, we start out with Henry still very
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suspicious of Tabitha and why she's there, and it's not until
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she mentions the, he starts to believe her and I feel like, um,
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all this stuff I was gonna, all this stuff that I wrote, it
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doesn't get important to me until you know he says it's a
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place that was everywhere, because this is what Victor's
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mom was talking about all the time that it was a place that
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was everywhere.
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Because this is what Victor's mom was talking about all the
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time that it was a place that was everywhere, but you couldn't
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find it.
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If you tried Somewhere you could stumble into from anywhere
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, but never find a way to leave.
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She said there were people there, people who were lost and
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afraid, who found themselves living inside of a nightmare
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that they couldn't escape, fighting a battle they knew they
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couldn't win.
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She said they were holding on to hope, and when that hope was
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gone, they held on to each other , and that's where we're in the
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funeral.
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They're all sitting there.
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It all sounded like riddles.
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She said that of all the people that would find their way to
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this place, she was the one who had been chosen to free the
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children, but she wasn't the first.
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Others had been chosen before her.
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She could see each and every one, and all of them had failed.
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None of them had ever set the children free, none of them had
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ever gone home.
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So if had ever set the children free, none of them had ever
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gone home.
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So if you've seen the children, if they've called to you then I
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guess you've been chosen now too.
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So how did you get out?
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And the whole time Tabitha is looking at the paintings that
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Victor's mother had created, and I don don't know.
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Speaker 4: I saw the diner, the lighthouse, a man in a yellow
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everything yeah, there was like a man coming out of the uh, the
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church windows like the church.
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So we we're gonna see that I hope yeah, like I thought that
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was crazy.
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Speaker 3: Um, like, what's going on in the church?
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Is the church a key, you know?
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Speaker 2: um so wait, I have a question for you guys.
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Do you think victor's mom it was that died in from, or did
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she get out?
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Because it sounds like she got out well, victor says he found
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her body, yeah, I understand that but, like my question is
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how can she be there, have that story and then this was before
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she?
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Even went yeah, okay, I'm sorry guys.
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Yeah, this is the thing, that's a this is the thing I'm not
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understanding, is so she's the only person that we know that
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knows about From Before, from I think so, except the dream, I
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guess, with Elgin.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's another person.
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But I'm just saying he was on the bus too, too, when he was
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there, I mean have you been on a Greyhound lately?
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Speaker 3: I wonder if Elgin is the backup, because Tabitha
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didn't start talking about the kids until she saw the kids
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right In the tunnel, right.
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So if Elgin hasn't seen the kids, maybe he's the backup.
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Speaker 2: It's very strange how .
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It's just very strange.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: This is the first bit that we've heard of somebody
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having the knowledge of this place on the outside.
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Right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my point.
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering how she knew where to go so that she
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could cross in.
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Speaker 4: That was the question I thought.
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It's like my wife and I were sitting there watching it with
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our 12-year-old, who's also obsessed, and he does great with
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it by the way, he's an old soul yeah, better than me and we
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were just like, okay, so maybe she found out a way to get in,
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and if that's the case, why would she take her kids?
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Speaker 3: That's what I don't get, unless they were supposed
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to go with her.
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I mean, I felt bad for the dad when he mentions that he didn't
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listen to what everyone was saying about him, Because I mean
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he had to have been, you know, grilled by the cops and everyone
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must have thought that he did something you know, Unless
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unless she was doing all this, dreaming whatever, making these
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paintings, and then she came across the log.
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Speaker 2: Just so happened she brought her in because she
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brought her in?
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Speaker 3: yeah, for all we know you could have just been going
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to the grocery store or having kids up from school.
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Oh, that's true, that's true.
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But I was wondering because he's talking about, you know,
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her painting all these people that others had been sent or
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chosen, and it didn't happen.
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So I was wondering was the guy in the yellow suit, was he one?
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Was the Civil War soldier?
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Was the early gosh.
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It feels like even prior to colonialial Soldier.
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Did you see the one soldier with the stovepipe hat?
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Speaker 2: Yeah he seemed like he was fine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed like he was fine.
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Speaker 2: No fun I was joking.
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Speaker 3: Tabitha used to be fun Also fun.
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Tabitha used to be fun, but like, and then going back to the
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church with the light coming out, all those crosses, but it
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seemed like a lot more than what's actually there right now.
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Speaker 4: You know like also the whole, like the whole
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episode with front to back from it goes from him not believing
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her and she's talking about a place like she's giving him
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enough information that it that he didn't believe until he heard
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about the children and then when he goes in the basement he
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knows everything about the place in.
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Yeah, in a sense, you know, I was like, yeah, it was strange
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to me that, and maybe it's because it's you know, 40 years
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ago and it's like it had to unlock with the children, but I
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thought that was.
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I was like, well, he knows a lot of information for not
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believing her in the first place .
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Speaker 2: Right, I think he was on guard because you know you
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have to remember he probably has been dealing with this and when
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you tell people this story's crazy, yeah, yeah and if, if he
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said to the cops listen, my wife has been having these visions
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of kids and seating and lights and this and that, and you know
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I totally understand he probably had some people that were
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crazies, that were either making a quote-unquote, making fun of
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him, bullying him or whatever versus I mean you know.
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So I mean there's a lot, there's a lot of layers to this and
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it's not a, it's not a band-aid that you want to rip off anytime
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soon yeah, because he probably kept telling himself it was also
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something that he could have blamed her for, like she was
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having all this stuff.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't true.
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And then she went and did, disappeared, like he could have
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like blamed all of that for her and her having like a illness
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and that's why he lost his family.
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But he didn't, he didn't say anything that suggested that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah Right, I wouldn't.
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I mean he had to have been really grilled by the cops and
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he must have had an airtight alibi for when they went missing
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.
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Right.
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And then you know bringing the cops downstairs and showing them
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those paintings.
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Those are crazy paintings.
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Speaker 4: Right, that's a.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot to take in, although it looks like this
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, this one I can't think of what the name of this one is, you
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know that, famous screen yeah.
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That's what they look like.
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Speaker 2: What's really interesting about the paintings
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Lizzie and Andy?
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Really interesting about the paintings Lizzie and Andy and
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we're talking Andy Schrock.
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Episode two of season three is the one big painting of the I
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guess it's the children.
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Yeah, it's in Victor's room and it's one of the pictures that
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they show in the beginning of the show in the intro.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome Both of those paintings were
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downstairs.
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Speaker 2: Both the paintings were in the beginning of the
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show, in the intro oh, that's awesome.
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Speaker 3: Both of those paintings were downstairs Both
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the paintings were in the basement.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying the paintings in the basement.
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Some of those paintings are in Victor's room.
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Speaker 3: Oh, oh oh.
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Speaker 2: He's drawing them too .
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Speaker 4: Because he saw his mom drawing the paintings?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.
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You know.
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Unfortunately and for those of you that are just watching,
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because I know some of your peeps are on here, like Galaxy,
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the Gaming and a whole bunch of other guys this show is a puzzle
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show, as Lizzie likes to say, and everything has a meaning.
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So the fact that Lizzie's hair is down has a meaning versus up,
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the fact that that actual diploma or whatever that is
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behind you has a meaning.
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Okay.
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Whatever those are, it has a meaning Okay.
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Speaker 4: John Griffin sent them to me to put them up.
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Speaker 2: Exactly I figured.
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I'm just saying you know that's that's, that's the way Lizzie
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rolls, so but I really think that the interaction and just so
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you folks know, we're going to be talking to Tabitha and
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Victor's dad this week and we're going to be posting that next
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week for next week's episode.
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So you know, stay tuned for that.
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We're going to get it out as quickly as we can.
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All right, some of us actually get to go on vacation twice a
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year and this is one of the weekends that we get to go on
00:20:55
vacation.
00:20:56
Speaker 3: That's so nice.
00:20:56
I never go on vacation.
00:21:00
Speaker 2: I don't know, we're not, we're not.
00:21:02
You know um twice Anyway, so back to.
00:21:06
Tabitha and Victor's dad.
00:21:10
What else?
00:21:11
Speaker 3: you got.
00:21:11
Oh, one thing I wanted to mention.
00:21:13
So, as they're going down into the basement, you know I caught
00:21:20
a glimpse of the rocking horse, so then I had to rewind a
00:21:30
glimpse of the rocking horse.
00:21:30
So then I had to rewind and I saw the same rocking horse
00:21:32
that's in it looks.
00:21:32
I didn't get a chance to go back but I think it might be the
00:21:35
same rocking horse that was in the caves and I remember one of
00:21:39
those old-fashioned kitchen st which I think is in the cave.
00:21:44
I believe we saw a bird cage in the cave.
00:21:47
There was a red wagon in the cage and I think it was a sled.
00:21:54
Speaker 2: Megan also had a rocking horse, yeah.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, that maybe that's where I saw the
00:22:01
rocking horse, but I was kind of like I mean, all of those
00:22:05
things are things you would find in a typical basement if you
00:22:09
had kids.
00:22:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually that's an era.
00:22:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that kitchen stool.
00:22:15
I remember seeing stools like that when I was a kid, you know,
00:22:18
and you go to like thrift stores or estate sales and stuff
00:22:25
.
00:22:25
You still see those, you know they're still out and about and
00:22:30
we know the red wagon hasn't gone anywhere.
00:22:32
So that's like the quintessential toy for all kids,
00:22:37
you know.
00:22:38
But yeah, I just wanted to mention that before we moved on.
00:22:42
I just wanted to mention that before we moved on.
00:22:43
My second thing is Jim and Kenny coming back into town, not
00:22:50
realizing anything is amiss.
00:22:53
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
00:22:53
Speaker 3: And you know them finding food.
00:22:57
They're very happy because they found a lot of food, but my
00:23:02
question is and this is all I've got to say about that is is
00:23:05
this place giving them hope?
00:23:07
Speaker 4: that they're planting a seed and that's not going to
00:23:09
end well, like that place where they found the food, like.
00:23:12
My thought was like what if other people like actually exist
00:23:16
there and then they're going to say you took, you started a war
00:23:19
by taking our stuff and we don't you know, or yeah?
00:23:22
Speaker 2: well, my take on it is a couple things, because I've
00:23:25
been looking at the from, you know, facebook pages and
00:23:28
whatever else.
00:23:28
It could be a war.
00:23:30
That's, that's the first thing it could be.
00:23:32
It could be.
00:23:33
A lot of people think that it's previous from people yeah, from
00:23:40
back in the day, and they just died, yeah, and they didn't they
00:23:44
didn't have anything, um, because, if you remember, they
00:23:49
heard noises out there.
00:23:51
Yeah right, so are they friends , foes or monsters, something?
00:23:55
Speaker 3: exactly like I'm.
00:23:57
You know what.
00:23:58
I'm wondering because it's just occurring to me right now.
00:24:01
Um, if now I can't spell perennial, sorry I probably
00:24:10
can't either um, if okay, got it .
00:24:12
Um, basically, are cabbages perennial like?
00:24:20
Is that something that would come up again and again on its
00:24:24
own?
00:24:24
Speaker 4: nope it's a buy any like perfect like suspicious.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: I just know one thing yeah, I think that that town
00:24:35
could either be out of that area , might be just out of bounds,
00:24:40
or or the monsters just don't give a crap about it right now,
00:24:44
because maybe there's several froms areas.
00:24:48
I mean you could take a deep dive.
00:24:52
Speaker 3: I think that place had been a from area because of
00:24:56
the scarecrows the wooden scarecrows.
00:24:59
Speaker 4: Maybe they work.
00:25:00
Speaker 3: So, yeah, maybe they work or maybe you know, as
00:25:06
people settle, they settle in different places.
00:25:08
Maybe there was lore with those cabins and so when people set
00:25:15
up house, they set up on that main street.
00:25:18
You know and found out much to their chagrin, it was not a safe
00:25:22
neighborhood.
00:25:23
Speaker 4: Right, so there's no roads.
00:25:24
So like, yeah, that's a a very.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: That takes it back to a a very you know one, one of
00:25:31
the other points, one of the other things I think is kind of
00:25:34
um interesting is boyd went out there, went to the spiders and
00:25:42
whatever else you got kenny and and um matthews.
00:25:49
Um, they, they go out, they go out and they have a different
00:25:55
experience and it's a freaky experience with those scarecrows
00:25:59
, slash whatever it was.
00:26:00
There was no spider webs, there was none of that.
00:26:03
You know what kind of me?
00:26:06
Well, I think what kind of maze is?
00:26:09
Are the monsters trying to play with them?
00:26:11
What I mean?
00:26:12
I think this whole season is about playing with your food,
00:26:15
and I think we talked about that with when we talked to uh,
00:26:19
harold.
00:26:19
You know, they're just, they're just trying to mess with them
00:26:25
and they don't want to kill Boyd because they just want to
00:26:28
torture him, because killing him would be too easy, and I think
00:26:33
that there's something about that.
00:26:36
Speaker 4: There is something to that.
00:26:37
As the viewer, you're just scared this season.
00:26:41
I feel like we're going into this scared this season like.
00:26:46
I feel like we're going into this like it's.
00:26:47
It's funny that that the winter was on accident, because I
00:26:48
learned that from listening to you two and I thought it was
00:26:52
just to make you feel unsafe, like cold, no food, you know,
00:26:57
death right away.
00:26:58
And I was like, okay, they're just trying to make you very,
00:27:00
very unsafe.
00:27:01
It working.
00:27:01
All of the actors are saying it only gets darker.
00:27:04
And and I was thinking about about how what they did to Boyd
00:27:08
in the barn and I was like as depressing and not hopeful as
00:27:14
this season wants to make us feel, the fact that they're
00:27:17
messing with Boyd, then is that they something that someone is
00:27:23
doing, in that they view him as a threat, because they wouldn't,
00:27:27
they would just kill him.
00:27:29
But the fact that they're messing with them probably means
00:27:32
they have to take him down a notch because they view him as a
00:27:35
threat, which says that they can turn the tides in some
00:27:40
aspect.
00:27:42
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if they see him as a threat.
00:27:45
I mean, basically, he taunted them at the end of the last
00:27:50
season.
00:27:51
You know like you can't break me, or was it?
00:27:52
No, it was the end of the last season.
00:27:53
You know like you can't break me, or was it?
00:27:53
No, it was the end of last season.
00:27:56
Speaker 2: No, it was episode one, it was this season.
00:27:58
It was this season, it was the beginning of episode one.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: And you know, and that's what they lead with in
00:28:04
the barn.
00:28:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it could just be sadistic.
00:28:07
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely.
00:28:08
But I think that they are keeping him alive because he's
00:28:11
fighting to keep so many other people alive that he could be
00:28:16
the aside.
00:28:17
I'm starting to wonder about donna.
00:28:19
He could be the toughest one to break because he's so filled
00:28:24
with hope but the problem is, if he dies it's all.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like a house of cards and they want to
00:28:33
keep him around.
00:28:34
They want to keep him around to keep this game going.
00:28:37
But to your.
00:28:38
But to your point, lizzie, somebody just posted any annual
00:28:42
or biannual could self-seed, but the plants are weeded,
00:28:48
da-da-da-da other things.
00:28:50
But I just wanted to kind of throw that out there because I
00:28:53
know how much that's important to you and to all the viewers,
00:28:58
because you know self-seeding cabbage is where it's at right
00:29:01
now.
00:29:02
Speaker 3: Well, do a lot with cabbage.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: You can make a lot of cabbage soup.
00:29:07
You can roll grape leaves or cabbage leaves.
00:29:09
I'm Middle Eastern, so if you can't stuff it with meat and
00:29:12
rice, then we don't want it.
00:29:13
Um, this is all being said when come.
00:29:17
When kenny comes into town, he's they got all this food.
00:29:21
You know, somebody had said it in the comments and I didn't.
00:29:24
I didn't, um, for whatever reason, I didn't pin it, but
00:29:29
that was, that was just heartbreaking, yeah yeah I mean
00:29:33
it's like there's a joke and they don't know what it is, kind
00:29:36
of thing yeah
00:29:37
Speaker 3: all right so let's leave them there, because we
00:29:41
still need to go see um victor, not victor jade, jade and um
00:29:47
boyd.
00:29:48
So it's the next morning.
00:29:50
Jade and Victor are in the barn .
00:29:53
Victor doesn't want Jade to go outside, but Jade has to.
00:29:57
He has to know what's going on.
00:29:58
So he finds Boyd in the barn handcuffed to the beam.
00:30:05
And you know, in a way I was kind of I don't know, I was kind
00:30:11
of hoping they wouldn't leave him that way.
00:30:13
It might make him look suspicious if he was loose in
00:30:18
that barn and Tian Chen was dead like that.
00:30:21
But I mean, they all know that the monster is out.
00:30:27
Yeah so.
00:30:28
I was surprised there was no suspicion on him right exactly
00:30:34
everyone exactly they're on the edge already blood on him and
00:30:37
stuff yeah yeah, so he's repeating tian chen's last words
00:30:43
over and over again, as if, um, he doesn't want to forget it,
00:30:48
and maybe that's the only thing from keeping him from losing his
00:30:51
mind.
00:30:52
And you know, I really didn't want to see Mrs Blue like that.
00:30:57
Yeah.
00:30:58
It was awful.
00:30:59
It was awful.
00:31:01
Speaker 4: I thought they stopped before.
00:31:02
It could have got a lot worse.
00:31:03
Oh yeah, I was like how much, how gnarly is this going to be?
00:31:08
Speaker 3: Watching that.
00:31:09
I didn't need to see it.
00:31:10
It was pretty bad.
00:31:11
I will say this how gnarly is this going to be Watching that?
00:31:12
Speaker 2: I didn't need to see it, it was pretty funny.
00:31:14
I will say this when it comes to her character and let's just
00:31:17
talk about her character for a second, we're going to get into
00:31:23
what ended up happening but she really was the mother of Frump,
00:31:36
was the mother of from, I mean, you know, in the scene, in the
00:31:37
scene before, I mean that, the episode before she's got ethan
00:31:39
by the head yellow on the hand like I loved that she.
00:31:42
She yells at jade when he first comes in and can't knees.
00:31:46
I mean she is the the pulse of the town Feeding the community
00:31:54
yeah.
00:31:54
And even like you know, donna, donna respected her more than
00:32:01
anybody.
00:32:02
Yeah, because it was kind of like you know, yes, it's Donna
00:32:05
and Boyd, but you know Boyd's she's just a great cog in the
00:32:13
whole thing.
00:32:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's really beautiful how, like I said
00:32:16
earlier, that we got to take a beat and just mourn her along
00:32:19
with the characters and just to see everyone.
00:32:22
Everyone pretty much got their reaction.
00:32:24
You got to see everyone kind of taking it in and and the
00:32:28
episode's masterfully written, of course, as it always is how
00:32:30
it comes together with the, with henry's monologue and it goes
00:32:35
into the funeral.
00:32:35
When you're seeing both, you know both of the stories come
00:32:38
together.
00:32:38
Speaker 3: It's just wow I mean no one's drugging them anymore.
00:32:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know.
00:32:47
Yeah, somebody else may, else may, but yeah, so Please go.
00:32:52
Speaker 3: Anyway, jade frees Boyd and my question is is Boyd
00:33:03
broken yet?
00:33:04
Because I don't think he is Like looking at him in that
00:33:07
moment.
00:33:08
He seemed kind of broken yeah.
00:33:11
Speaker 4: He's cracking.
00:33:11
But yeah, he's cracking, but I mean that way he's pissed when
00:33:15
he pulls ellis aside, I was like , oh, here's it begins, he's,
00:33:18
this is he's gonna unravel throughout the season.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: I feel like yeah, yeah, I think that's what we're
00:33:24
looking at.
00:33:25
But yeah, I mean, he's gosh, I don't know him.
00:33:29
And and Donna, but Donna has been what a great scene like
00:33:33
just under the surface.
00:33:35
She's always cracking.
00:33:36
Yeah.
00:33:37
You know, like she was fine when in the heyday of Colony
00:33:41
House.
00:33:41
But as soon as that house was attacked, like she's been
00:33:45
cracking yeah, like you, you're seeing cracks, but wait one
00:33:49
second.
00:33:49
Like you, you're seeing cracks.
00:33:50
Speaker 2: But Wait one second.
00:33:51
Daryl says Boyd is not broken yet, he just wants to kick some
00:33:57
monster butt.
00:33:57
And I really do.
00:33:57
I really do believe he's more pissed.
00:34:00
Yeah that they killed her.
00:34:03
It's like avenge me, you know, kind of thing More than anything
00:34:08
else.
00:34:15
Speaker 3: At the end, or is it at the beginning of red dawn?
00:34:17
Speaker 2: in the middle it's when they start, when, when they
00:34:20
start going on, uh, their their killing spree.
00:34:23
And for those of you that are used to the 2000s red dawn, no,
00:34:27
that's not the one we were, we're 80s people this is old
00:34:30
school, old school yeah so you know, I hated the flashback of
00:34:36
watching mrs lou get ripped apart.
00:34:39
Speaker 3: Didn't need to see that.
00:34:40
But my one comment is that you know the cowboy's wife.
00:34:44
Yeah, the one with the hair oh yeah she was holding her purse
00:34:51
the whole time like her.
00:34:53
Like she goes to grab mrs lou cowboy's wife purse wife's purse
00:34:59
is in the shot.
00:35:00
Like she had that purse on her the whole time, which I was like
00:35:05
wow like she couldn't put it down.
00:35:08
Yeah, I had, I had I rewound because I was like wait a minute
00:35:11
, but I just noticed that little thing.
00:35:14
Speaker 4: Interesting.
00:35:14
Speaker 3: But my question was how did they decide who would
00:35:18
get to be in the barn, like, how did the monsters decide who
00:35:21
would get to be in the barn?
00:35:24
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:35:24
I think they were just hoping.
00:35:25
But also, what would they have done if it was just Boyd?
00:35:28
Do you think they were just like ah well, we were going to
00:35:31
have some fun, but some.
00:35:33
Speaker 2: No, but they would probably just torture the crap
00:35:34
out of them, maybe take off his nails or whatever.
00:35:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the thing was like they knew there
00:35:41
was a pretty good chance, if everyone's so hungry and worried
00:35:44
about the animals, that someone , if they got let the animals
00:35:47
free, that someone would come out, and most likely that person
00:35:53
would probably be Boyd.
00:35:54
Yeah.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting the other three, so do you think
00:36:00
he should have just not went out?
00:36:03
I mean, it wouldn't have been as exciting, but you have all
00:36:05
day to try to go wrangle cows.
00:36:08
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing, Like when Donna comes in
00:36:11
yelling at him.
00:36:12
I'm like she's not wrong, because where are the animals
00:36:16
going to go out to the woods where they found them before?
00:36:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in that moment I get why he ran out to
00:36:22
like you're losing your mind and then the worst thing imaginable
00:36:25
happens.
00:36:25
You got to try to fix it and that's right.
00:36:28
Speaker 2: You know what, though I mean it.
00:36:33
And that's right.
00:36:33
You know what though I mean.
00:36:34
They're all under stress.
00:36:35
That's the only set of resources that they have, and
00:36:36
they don't call mr lovin fishes for anything you know, for they
00:36:37
call him that for a reason.
00:36:38
So we're you know he's looking at it from the resources aspect,
00:36:43
right, but it goes back to randall, wasn't wrong?
00:36:49
Speaker 3: No, Randall was ahead of his time.
00:36:51
Randall was ahead of his time.
00:36:54
Speaker 2: But Randall knows something.
00:36:55
Randall and Julie.
00:36:58
And you know what's her name the druggie.
00:37:02
Ariel Ariel.
00:37:03
Yeah, they know something and they're, I think, going to be a
00:37:08
crucial part of whatever this season has to offer, because
00:37:13
they were in the mind, the Masters were in their minds, or
00:37:17
whatever the heck it was.
00:37:20
Speaker 3: But so far, Julie seems to be the only one that's
00:37:25
greatly changed Like.
00:37:27
Marielle is straight now, but she was working on that to begin
00:37:31
with, and then Randall did something nice.
00:37:35
I think he would have saved them anyway but, Julie is
00:37:41
greatly changed.
00:37:43
Speaker 2: Well, I think the reason why Julie has changed is
00:37:47
because she hasn't changed.
00:37:49
She said something to Jimim, to her father, to jim.
00:37:55
I'm not going through this again, yeah well, no, she hasn't
00:37:59
yeah, but she's what is what I mean by that is, she's like it's
00:38:03
not your fault, but she's already been down this road with
00:38:06
her dad and she's like I'm done with this.
00:38:08
I, I need to deal with my shit, but I also need to I've already
00:38:14
been.
00:38:14
We've already done this well I took it.
00:38:17
Speaker 3: I took it as her saying I was the parent before
00:38:20
to ethan when thomas died.
00:38:22
I need you to be my parent right now, yeah we're seeing the
00:38:27
same thing yeah, but he was yeah, he was being the parent.
00:38:32
Speaker 4: He was being the parent in the wrong direction.
00:38:34
Speaker 3: Right, exactly so, boyd and Christy standing at the
00:38:43
pool and for once they talked about one of the abandoned
00:38:51
vehicles, which is the truck upside down in the pool, which
00:38:53
makes me wonder were were that?
00:38:54
Was that couple in the truck like trying to get away from
00:38:57
monsters when that happened um, because how else?
00:39:01
Or maybe they didn't have the, the, the spike thing yet and
00:39:05
they did it somehow other, some other way but they knew their
00:39:09
names, though they knew that unless they looked at licenses
00:39:13
or something, but it seemed like they knew them.
00:39:19
Speaker 4: How long has Christy been there?
00:39:20
I know you have the timeline.
00:39:23
Yeah.
00:39:25
Speaker 2: While she's getting the timeline.
00:39:26
Okay, no, she's got it back, that's right, six months.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's a substantial time, yeah so that
00:39:34
couple was there in the last six months yeah basically um, yeah,
00:39:41
and and how long, how long have we been in from?
00:39:44
Uh, just over two weeks, we need to be like the whole.
00:39:49
Speaker 4: Like the place ages you faster yeah that's like, if
00:39:52
you look at jade's.
00:39:54
Speaker 3: Jade is like does not have three weeks of hair growth
00:39:58
yeah oh, he's coming in gray like yeah yeah I have a very
00:40:06
finish my count.
00:40:07
Like I'm up to like nine days.
00:40:11
Speaker 4: You should do it before and after I'm into the
00:40:13
second season Of like season, like episode one to you know,
00:40:16
whatever episode that you do the like, just take a picture,
00:40:19
that's a good idea, that'd be interesting.
00:40:22
Speaker 2: So the real question is since we have Andy on and I
00:40:25
know the answer to this- Okay.
00:40:27
So if you weren't from, oh god, I know, you probably always
00:40:32
would have, um, you know, a skateboard.
00:40:36
Oh yeah, my, now my son.
00:40:38
There is an empty pool, dude oh , that's yeah.
00:40:42
Speaker 1: So the question is that still isn't a good pool
00:40:47
yeah, are you trying to mess?
00:40:48
Speaker 4: with it right now, yeah yeah, he'd use it, he'd
00:40:53
ollie over the truck, probably so they would never do that, but
00:40:56
that would be so fun to see a skateboarder in from I mean, I
00:41:00
mean how I just had to.
00:41:02
Speaker 2: I had to, um uh, throw that out there, since,
00:41:05
since you are that, that is your , your uh primary right, you
00:41:09
would not get the boot either.
00:41:10
Speaker 4: I don't think, unless you're making noise, you know,
00:41:15
maybe I know, yeah, you won't get off my lawn, get off my lawn
00:41:17
.
00:41:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, so where are we , my dear, all right.
00:41:21
Speaker 3: So Boyd and Christy are talking at the pool.
00:41:27
Speaker 4: And that's a great one.
00:41:28
The whole episode is one big, beautiful scene, like every
00:41:30
single scene.
00:41:31
Yeah, is just it.
00:41:32
Just it really needed after the what happens in the previous
00:41:36
episode yeah, yeah and and I didn't think we were gonna get
00:41:40
this season, because everyone says it just gets, keeps getting
00:41:44
worse, and there was so much tragedy and despair in this
00:41:47
episode, but there was, there was redeeming moments that we
00:41:50
got to.
00:41:51
You know, we have to see a little bit of light and feel
00:41:54
good about what just happened yeah, I don't know if you're a
00:41:58
walking dead end.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: Uh, andy, are you walking?
00:42:00
Speaker 4: I read like 95 of the comics.
00:42:02
I love those um graphic novels and, uh, I didn't finish the
00:42:07
show but I was.
00:42:09
Speaker 2: I'm a fan in general yeah, well, the reason I bring
00:42:13
that up, you know I the big criticism with the walking dead
00:42:17
was the negan years on tv and that's where we lost a lot of
00:42:21
viewership.
00:42:21
Yeah, and talking to harold and and and liz who plays Donna,
00:42:30
it's so heavy, it's like dude, don't lose us, don't make it so
00:42:37
depressing.
00:42:39
Speaker 4: I think, that's really smart, in fact, my mom.
00:42:43
When I got into Frum, I started shouting on top of a
00:42:46
mountaintop.
00:42:47
It's really annoying when everyone doesn't just drop what
00:42:51
they're doing.
00:42:51
You're alone, because that's what you should do.
00:42:54
Speaker 3: Hey, we should have hooked up a long time ago, I
00:42:56
know.
00:42:56
Speaker 4: Well, I'm here.
00:42:58
Speaker 3: I was there with you.
00:42:59
Speaker 4: I was there with you, yeah, but my mom was like I'll
00:43:03
wait until season two and I'll watch season one.
00:43:12
Speaker 2: I'm getting off on a tangent here.
00:43:12
No, I'm just going to let you guys have the show, since you
00:43:14
guys have been here the longest, and I'm just going to leave.
00:43:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, but oh okay.
00:43:17
So my mom, she's so into it now , like just she talks all these
00:43:20
theories.
00:43:21
I'm in a group chat with my uncle and my mom and just all
00:43:24
these theories.
00:43:24
It's amazing.
00:43:25
Can I get in that?
00:43:26
You probably can.
00:43:33
Speaker 3: Can I get?
00:43:33
Speaker 4: in all that.
00:43:33
Yeah, you probably can't watch this episode.
00:43:35
He doesn't want me to talk about it to him.
00:43:36
Yeah, well, I'll get you some numbers.
00:43:36
Um, all right, negan, when he when the, the episode that the
00:43:39
that turned walking dead and it got gnarly, my mom just shut it
00:43:43
off and I was like yeah, I hope they don't like rip our hearts
00:43:47
out like like they did on walking dead, but I'll be in it
00:43:50
for the long haul yeah all right , we gotta keep going here,
00:43:54
because we're so back to boyd and christy, and they're talking
00:43:58
at the pool and christy tells boyd that it wasn't his fault
00:44:06
and all I can think is to go back to you know him saying you
00:44:11
didn't break me, you can't break me.
00:44:14
Speaker 3: And my thought is but isn't it, isn't it his fault,
00:44:19
isn't it?
00:44:19
You know they, you know can they break him or can't they?
00:44:25
I'm I don't know if I want to see Boyd broken at the end.
00:44:33
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:44:34
I think it's going to get really close.
00:44:36
I mean, like you know, structurally, from a story point
00:44:39
, although you know, if any show is going to send us a different
00:44:43
way than we thought we were going, it'd probably be this one
00:44:44
.
00:44:44
I think it's going to get darn close, hanging by a thread, but
00:44:50
I mean, that's what?
00:44:51
At the same time, though, everyone, you know, we all think
00:44:54
Boyd's the hero, but then this new thing comes along, and now
00:44:57
Tabitha is like the chosen one.
00:44:58
Right.
00:45:00
But I think we'll get darn close .
00:45:01
I think we're going to see some dark stuff for Boyd.
00:45:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker 2: Well, and the funny thing about Tabitha is there's a
00:45:09
lot of people on these From sites that just don't like her.
00:45:12
Oh really.
00:45:12
Speaker 3: Oh, there's someone in our thread that hates her.
00:45:17
Speaker 2: Oh my God, it's like oh, it's so annoying
00:45:19
Da-da-da-dum and she's watching a whole lot.
00:45:23
Speaker 3: There's always someone saying that someone is
00:45:26
boring and annoying.
00:45:27
Yeah.
00:45:27
You know, but all of these characters have a definite part
00:45:35
to play in this whole thing.
00:45:36
Like there's, there are no wasted characters, except like I
00:45:38
keep waiting for us to find the purpose of Tilly.
00:45:44
Speaker 2: You know, like Tilly's there to screw with us.
00:45:48
Speaker 3: I don't know, unless she's just supposed to be the
00:45:50
guest star in Elgin's Dreams.
00:45:52
So I'm waiting to see what's up with Tilly.
00:45:55
But you know, the worst part of this episode was Kenny coming
00:46:02
into town and finding out that it's his mom and he's outside
00:46:08
the house calling for her and he knows like.
00:46:13
Speaker 4: he doesn't even try to go in because he knows she's
00:46:16
not in there yeah he just knows that it's her and oh, it's just
00:46:23
like a little puppy, like calling for its mom, yeah, and
00:46:29
he's, I feel like he's the one that it's like during season two
00:46:33
and into this season we're like I hope he doesn't die, but yeah
00:46:37
, but now he's kind of like he's got nothing to lose yeah, I
00:46:43
mean he's like and he proves that.
00:46:45
Speaker 2: He proves that at the end, which we'll talk about.
00:46:47
So he's a really, really, really powerful character right
00:46:52
and and, and somebody put this in the chat, which I thought was
00:46:55
kind of interesting.
00:46:56
You know, uh, what was the song playing at the diner when he
00:47:00
ended up blowing?
00:47:01
Speaker 3: it up times celebration.
00:47:03
Yeah, I was just about to go there, I didn't that's a midge
00:47:08
premature I.
00:47:08
Speaker 4: I thought I was.
00:47:09
I knew cause.
00:47:10
I saw the clip in the in the trailer and I was like that's
00:47:12
about to about to happen.
00:47:14
Of course, yeah, and, and I was .
00:47:16
I was expecting a darker, more twisted song than like an upbeat
00:47:20
one like that.
00:47:21
But isn't that twisted though?
00:47:24
Yeah, it's.
00:47:24
I'm so pretty, yeah, yeah, it's like I just thought, because
00:47:33
you know you unplug, like the lamps don't need to be plugged
00:47:35
in to be on.
00:47:35
You know, I was like this is not gonna and he does so good
00:47:37
for yeah you gotta win.
00:47:38
Speaker 3: I wonder if they let, if they let him think that he
00:47:43
stopped it like that he stopped the jukebox well, the
00:47:46
psychological war is definitely like yeah, so, yeah, that's a
00:47:51
good point.
00:47:52
Speaker 4: I mean the end of the episode that was.
00:47:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was like a little bit of power.
00:47:58
But let's see, wait a minute, oh I can't, oh it was just that.
00:48:08
But the jukebox clicks on when Christy leaves Larry.
00:48:12
Yeah, all right, yeah, cause I mean it's just that little
00:48:15
conversation between him and Christy and the diner and then
00:48:19
she leaves him.
00:48:20
But he asked her to clean up his mom, basically make her look
00:48:25
okay, and she goes back and she does that, and Jade is there
00:48:32
with him.
00:48:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:48:34
Speaker 3: And that's another beautiful thing.
00:48:37
Speaker 4: But insanely beautiful scene.
00:48:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you've ever had to go through anything
00:48:48
like that with a family member, it's.
00:48:50
It's hard enough in the real world, and when you're in this,
00:48:56
in this environment, it's it.
00:48:59
She was just so beloved right and they were beautiful, I mean
00:49:03
as she is, and yeah, exactly.
00:49:06
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we love her so much.
00:49:08
Liz Moy is one of our favorite.
00:49:10
Speaker 2: She was like our first or second episode.
00:49:16
Speaker 4: It was Donna, not Donna.
00:49:18
Speaker 3: Liz Saunders, then Liz Moy.
00:49:23
Speaker 4: We're so lucky that, especially when I watch all of
00:49:26
the episodes, that when you have the cast on, we are very lucky.
00:49:30
The show exists, it's awesome, uh, and the, the crew, the cast,
00:49:36
they all want to be there.
00:49:37
They like, they enjoy watching it and talking about it, I was
00:49:41
like we don't deserve.
00:49:42
We don't deserve the people working on this show.
00:49:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're great.
00:49:46
I've been on plenty of shows where the actors are not happy.
00:49:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't want to talk about it.
00:49:55
So yeah, the reason is they're all Canadian.
00:49:58
They're just the nicest people in the world.
00:49:59
Apparently yeah, and they're going to try to take us over
00:50:02
with Zamboni technology.
00:50:04
But in the meantime, you know, we just have to embrace them.
00:50:08
And we're lucky enough to know Bob who is the mayor of Canada.
00:50:13
We like to kid Bob Mann about it.
00:50:17
He's the unofficial mayor of Canada.
00:50:21
In Alabama he played Frank it's just the way we go?
00:50:27
Speaker 4: No, I'm just making sure he was two episodes ago, I
00:50:29
believe.
00:50:31
Speaker 2: He's been on a few times, yeah you really are you
00:50:34
really are?
00:50:35
A fan you're the person actually listening.
00:50:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I especially, like I've been
00:50:40
rocking a lot of episodes recently he um bop comes on to
00:50:46
open and close with us oh.
00:50:48
Speaker 3: He's like our official color commentator, so
00:50:53
and and the thing is, he doesn't know anything about the show
00:50:56
anymore because no one can talk about it.
00:50:58
Right but he is just as into it as we are it's awesome so, and
00:51:02
you can see, yeah which is awesome.
00:51:04
Speaker 2: And what's really great about it is and we've said
00:51:07
this before he gives such a great perspective from the actor
00:51:16
point.
00:51:16
Yeah, and when we had, when we booked him, we're like what the
00:51:17
heck is this guy going to talk about?
00:51:18
He's been, he's been on the show for like three seconds and
00:51:21
I'm like this guy could talk.
00:51:23
Speaker 3: He's interesting no, but.
00:51:25
Speaker 2: And then we heard him talk yeah and I'm like this is
00:51:29
we.
00:51:29
We got to get him on.
00:51:30
He's awesome, he's a member of the hosts.
00:51:33
Speaker 4: Now right.
00:51:35
Speaker 2: He's one of the unofficial third member I got to
00:51:41
tell you.
00:51:42
You know, bob, if you're listening, he's doing a really
00:51:44
good job and he's doing a really good job.
00:51:47
Speaker 3: Yeah so yeah, crap, I forgot what I wanted to say.
00:51:54
Speaker 2: All right, so we need to get to.
00:51:55
We need to get to, uh, kenny and clara well, we finished
00:51:57
kenny and clara.
00:51:58
Speaker 3: I was hopping over to jade, christie and mrs lou.
00:52:02
Oh, that's what I was gonna say .
00:52:05
What I meant to get out of liz moy last week was whether or not
00:52:12
she was present for those scenes, because remember, when
00:52:18
um bob was dead, when frank was dead, bob was actually in those
00:52:23
scenes like he was in the wagon, as they were pulling him.
00:52:27
Speaker 4: He was the dead body in the in the box, I thought
00:52:32
about that when I, when I was watching it, like I was, like it
00:52:35
looked, you can see it being either way.
00:52:37
If it was a really good uh prop , or it was her like in, because
00:52:41
there were pieces right behind her that she could have been
00:52:44
like in, you know yeah, exactly um, like what they do like
00:52:50
special effects, you know, like incredible.
00:52:53
I think the full effects on the show are just good.
00:52:57
Speaker 2: Like well I think they bumped it up.
00:53:01
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
00:53:02
Speaker 4: And I like how they.
00:53:03
They just like they stay right up in front and center visually.
00:53:07
Yeah, oh, yeah and then I'm sorry, oh, go go.
00:53:12
I'm just saying when, um, when elgin in his dream, when the
00:53:16
like bloody, uh, whatever the the monster's name is called, I
00:53:21
know everyone.
00:53:21
I think that was one of the creep, probably the creepiest
00:53:28
shot to me of the whole series.
00:53:29
And when it was just out of focus and blurry, and when it
00:53:32
went into focus I understood it needed to happen to wake him up
00:53:34
and scare him and do that.
00:53:35
But I was like if they just would have let that sit and just
00:53:38
cut, I would have been like that.
00:53:40
Speaker 3: So I'm so more scared that nothing else absolutely
00:53:45
I'm just wondering what her being japanese has to do with
00:53:49
anything.
00:53:50
Speaker 4: I heard that from you and I was like oh yeah.
00:53:55
Speaker 3: Because she's wearing a kimono and she's got long
00:53:58
black hair, which makes me think so, the US, everyone's just
00:54:03
from the continental United States, right?
00:54:07
Speaker 4: Ironically too.
00:54:10
Speaker 2: It's.
00:54:11
Speaker 4: Mrs Liu.
00:54:12
Speaker 3: No.
00:54:14
Speaker 4: Well, that's on the board, they're.
00:54:16
Chinese, aren't they Chinese?
00:54:18
Well, I think they're from the States.
00:54:20
Well, it's not, it's their ancestry.
00:54:24
Sure yeah.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: I'm just being a jerk about that.
00:54:31
Speaker 3: I'm like it's mrs loo all right, so anyway, um, they
00:54:39
finished getting mrs loo ready for kenny and jade says if you
00:54:44
put any more lipstick on her she might sit up and smack the
00:54:47
lipstick out of your hand.
00:54:49
True.
00:54:50
Speaker 4: Which I love.
00:54:51
We got some great moments in a very dark time of the series.
00:54:57
Speaker 3: Exactly Like he called her.
00:54:59
And then Jade says you know, he repeats what Mrs Lou said to
00:55:04
him at the end of first season they, they go with you when you
00:55:08
go.
00:55:08
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:55:08
Or they come with you when you go Look at the growth of that
00:55:11
character in two weeks, and not just his facial hair.
00:55:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know Exactly.
00:55:17
Speaker 2: That's a great character.
00:55:19
Speaker 3: She made such an indelible mark on him.
00:55:23
On everybody.
00:55:24
She made him human yeah.
00:55:25
Speaker 4: But it's really very noticeably insignificant in him
00:55:28
because he went from the guy stealing bikes, which he still
00:55:36
has.
00:55:36
Yeah, you know, he rode his bike to the to the cave at the
00:55:37
end of season two.
00:55:37
Who rides a bike in the woods?
00:55:39
Anyway, that wouldn't that.
00:55:40
I dare say that wouldn't have worked, but it was a really
00:55:42
funny detail if there's no path, it's hard to ride in the woods.
00:55:47
Speaker 3: It's like I grew up, you know, riding my bike in the
00:55:49
woods, but we had a path he had trails, so like we would just
00:55:53
yeah, we would just follow those trails, um.
00:55:56
So, let's see, I'm looking around um crap, okay.
00:56:04
Oh, because that was at number 11, am I at 12?
00:56:08
Speaker 4: really where's 12, how many oh?
00:56:12
Speaker 2: julie and sarah that's a big like total that
00:56:17
tells me that was a lot of fun.
00:56:19
That was so much fun to watch julie and sarah.
00:56:23
Speaker 3: Like julie's saying, I think I'm like you now I
00:56:26
totally get you did she say that she, I totally get you no, no,
00:56:32
no like the vibe of it when she went to talk to sarah.
00:56:35
That's basically what she was saying yeah, yeah you know, and
00:56:38
sarah was like come talk to me anytime yeah because both of
00:56:42
them well, along with um, along with marielle and randall, but
00:56:48
marielle and randall didn't know sarah before and you know julie
00:56:53
, finally, you know being like I get it now.
00:56:58
It reminded me and I don't expect you to have to have seen
00:57:02
these movies, this movie, or have read the book, but bridges
00:57:06
of madison county oh, oh yeah someone in the chat.
00:57:10
I'm so because it's like a legendary movie I've seen.
00:57:11
Speaker 4: I've heard nothing but good things.
00:57:12
And I of Madison County, oh yeah, someone in the chat, so
00:57:12
because it's like a legendary movie, I've heard nothing but
00:57:14
good things and I guess, book.
00:57:15
I'm sorry, I haven't.
00:57:18
Sorry to disappoint.
00:57:19
Speaker 3: I mean it's like a novella.
00:57:21
And then it's Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep are in the
00:57:24
movie.
00:57:25
It's a total chick.
00:57:26
Oh is it.
00:57:27
It's a chick flick yeah.
00:57:28
Yeah.
00:57:29
But Sarah had become the Redfield woman.
00:57:34
The Redfield woman, like Redfield, was a last name.
00:57:38
Unless you've seen the movie, you don't know what the Redfield
00:57:42
woman is.
00:57:42
Does it sound like a sort of a letter In a sense?
00:57:48
Yeah, it is the Scarlet Letter.
00:57:49
Yeah.
00:57:50
Speaker 4: Assumed.
00:57:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a sense.
00:57:51
Yeah, it is the scarlet letter.
00:57:52
Yeah, assumed, yeah, um, and so my question was will julie and
00:57:56
sarah become friends and was sarah ever normal?
00:58:00
Like we don't know if sarah was ever normal I still believe
00:58:06
that her brother wasn't her brother.
00:58:08
Speaker 4: There's definitely a weird vibe there.
00:58:09
Yeah it was definitely good.
00:58:14
Speaker 2: One thing about this show that I don't like is they
00:58:18
don't do a lot of backstory and not just her, but the whole cast
00:58:23
.
00:58:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they're separate shows.
00:58:28
I don't think there's any sense like oh, compare it to Lost,
00:58:33
it's not, but Lost was very nice about that where it's like I
00:58:37
mean, you're going to get 80 episodes this season, you're
00:58:39
going to get 40 of them telling you what they did when they were
00:58:41
.
00:58:43
Speaker 2: They had more time?
00:58:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had more time In this show.
00:58:45
Speaker 2: You had more time.
00:58:46
That's the problem.
00:58:48
Speaker 3: But Backstory was born because of Lost.
00:58:51
That term didn't exist before Lost.
00:58:55
Speaker 4: Really yeah Well, they definitely drove it home
00:58:59
and I love it.
00:58:59
I'm a huge Lost fan.
00:59:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, they invented it.
00:59:04
Speaker 2: Watch the show.
00:59:05
Speaker 3: But then my other question is why like?
00:59:11
Why were the four of them chosen to be?
00:59:14
Because like?
00:59:15
Like who they're speaking yeah, I'm wondering whether if there
00:59:20
was any communication going on during that whole cicada I don't
00:59:24
know, but sarah's definitely a different communication than the
00:59:26
the cicada trio he's in cicada right yeah not right I know, it
00:59:32
wasn't cicada I like cicada
00:59:34
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, I don't know you really are a fan
00:59:37
because let me tell you that's all I ever hear cicada cicada
00:59:42
get my cicada out of the car.
00:59:48
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, get some soda out of the cellar.
00:59:53
All right, I'm getting carried away, so all right, I'm at the
01:00:00
funeral and then I've got two booms that we need to talk about
01:00:04
.
01:00:04
Okay.
01:00:06
So I mean it was great seeing the entire town in the church
01:00:13
for the funeral.
01:00:14
Did you notice Randall standing against the back wall?
01:00:18
Speaker 4: I know I watched the episode and then came in here
01:00:21
and set my computer up and jumped on.
01:00:24
So we usually watch it and then we watch it one more time and
01:00:27
the second through.
01:00:28
I get to look at all the details, so I did not notice.
01:00:31
Yeah, but you're right, andy, I need to like look at all the
01:00:33
details.
01:00:33
Speaker 2: So I did not know.
01:00:34
Yeah, but you're right, andy, I need to know.
01:00:35
There are the little details that you always have to watch.
01:00:39
I try to watch the show at least three times, yeah, before
01:00:43
I can like talk intelligently about it, and you still miss.
01:00:47
And then people will come on like in the chat and be like, oh
01:00:51
well, this happened.
01:00:52
I'm like, really there's more that I didn't pay attention to.
01:00:55
How did I not see that, like the wagon wheel was on the
01:00:59
ceiling but then it was in the other cabin?
01:01:02
I'm like, all right.
01:01:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, the show is like infinitely like that and
01:01:07
I think it's kind of poetic and beautiful that it's almost like
01:01:10
a mirror, that, as a as you watch it and you get into it,
01:01:14
you start questioning wait, he used that word or she used this
01:01:19
phrase, what do they mean by that?
01:01:20
And then to the point where, like, you're overthinking things
01:01:24
so much and you feel a little crazy and you're watching people
01:01:28
feel a little crazy and you're like they do a good job on
01:01:32
making the viewer like almost like a parallel in a way yeah
01:01:38
yeah, yeah.
01:01:38
Speaker 2: But back to the funeral.
01:01:40
I think it was really special I bet for the actors as well that
01:01:45
they all were in the same scene .
01:01:47
I mean, this is an ensemble cast, it's hard to get everybody
01:01:50
um in place, but I I do really believe that the one thing that
01:01:56
I was surprised about in the trailer is that they showed the
01:01:59
plate.
01:02:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really surprised by I mean, alex,
01:02:04
remember when I realized what that was I was not a happy, not
01:02:11
a happy camper.
01:02:12
Speaker 4: I watched, that was so after I watched you, I wasn't
01:02:15
even gonna watch the trailers.
01:02:17
It's like the polar opposite.
01:02:18
You guys study it so much I.
01:02:20
I love this yeah much that I just wanted to like watch it
01:02:23
authentically and raw, so I so I'm glad I watched that episode
01:02:27
where you discovered it after I had already seen the first
01:02:29
episode, because that was a dead giveaway.
01:02:33
Speaker 2: I mean, the bottom line is, you know, kenny has
01:02:39
lost his parents, which you know both, at the hands of something
01:02:45
that could have been prevented.
01:02:47
Let's call it what it is.
01:02:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean something yeah.
01:02:54
Speaker 2: He's not in a good place, he's pissed off and
01:02:59
careless, you know careless.
01:03:00
He's, he's looking, he's looking, he's looking for
01:03:04
revenge and you know we'll see what happens.
01:03:08
But um, what, you know, I'm sorry.
01:03:12
I know, I know, sorry, I know, I know you wanted to talk more
01:03:14
about the funeral.
01:03:15
I really have nothing else to say except for oh, okay.
01:03:18
Speaker 3: You know, I was just looking at my notes just to jump
01:03:22
over Cause like Donna.
01:03:23
I mean, ethan goes to talk to Donna while Donna is butchering
01:03:27
the cow, which I'm kind of like I don't know.
01:03:31
You know, kind of like I don't know.
01:03:33
Speaker 4: Poor Ethan.
01:03:34
Speaker 3: You know, kind of like should he be seeing that?
01:03:36
But you know.
01:03:37
Yeah, they do on the farm.
01:03:39
It's part of being on the farm, it is.
01:03:41
Speaker 4: He's going to grow up a lot faster than even on a
01:03:45
farm, yeah.
01:03:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:03:47
Speaker 2: He's going to have gray hair in season four.
01:03:50
Speaker 4: Jade's beard in a few episodes.
01:03:55
Speaker 3: If he doesn't have it by the end.
01:03:56
Yeah, and um, you know he's.
01:03:57
He asked if that's what tian chen looked like after they were
01:04:01
done with her and I'm like what the fuck?
01:04:05
Speaker 4: yeah, and with that's creepy he needs and it was kind
01:04:10
of like a carl thing, yeah he needs someone to hold him so
01:04:12
much in that and it's really sad that in this episode, like
01:04:16
Victor storming out, there's a lot going on in this episode
01:04:19
Dunn-Pack yeah.
01:04:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, victor, victor was not a happy camper.
01:04:23
He's like I'm out, this is.
01:04:24
This is crazy.
01:04:27
And if Victor's, because that guy has been through it, yeah,
01:04:31
and.
01:04:32
Speaker 4: I was like I'm getting emotionally attached to
01:04:34
this first time in a long time.
01:04:35
Oh, I'm sorry.
01:04:36
Sorry, Go ahead.
01:04:38
You go ahead, Victor, I think he's first.
01:04:40
He's getting emotionally attached for for the first time
01:04:43
in a long time.
01:04:44
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:04:44
Yeah, he doesn't like that.
01:04:46
There's people that care about him, that he cares about.
01:04:48
Yeah yeah, so you know any and ethan comments on the snow and I
01:04:57
was thinking I love that it's snowing in almost every scene
01:05:02
and it's because and to me I'm like that is the shit piling up
01:05:06
for them the more the snow falls .
01:05:09
I'm like, wow, they couldn't have asked for a better reason
01:05:13
to delay so that they could actually get the snow yeah you
01:05:16
know, just the symbolism uh, you know donna's, donna's had a
01:05:22
couple of conversations with ethan.
01:05:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, through the series yeah, and yeah, I mean,
01:05:30
there's just a bunch of different scenes and I mean,
01:05:33
let's face it, if Ian isn't an alcoholic or a drug user after
01:05:38
all this, he should be and he deserves it.
01:05:41
Everyone should be, andy, because I know Lizzie and I have
01:05:50
our opinions.
01:05:51
What do you think is?
01:05:53
Are you about the mole?
01:05:55
Are you about the Kramanakal?
01:05:58
Are you about the.
01:05:59
Speaker 4: I feel like they haven't really went heavy on the
01:06:01
Kramanakal since season one, so I lean away from that at this
01:06:06
point.
01:06:06
The mole is super interesting.
01:06:09
I think that's fascinating.
01:06:11
I think we're going to gonna.
01:06:12
It would be really interesting to see like a big baddie arise,
01:06:15
like so we could almost put a face to it.
01:06:17
Uh yeah, or a set of faces, not just, not just the monsters
01:06:23
which are like you know, are like our infantry, you know
01:06:26
there are like our front line I want to see the general because
01:06:29
there's density and I and I and I think that a mole would be
01:06:33
very interesting.
01:06:35
The thing with there being a mole, I feel like donna and
01:06:38
tilly are a little too obvious at this point and also the
01:06:41
community helps this feeling a lot of times because people keep
01:06:44
talking about stuff so much.
01:06:46
But yeah, so I don't know.
01:06:49
I think I would lean more to the mole theory and I think,
01:06:53
from just a just watching it, it's vastly more interesting and
01:06:56
it's way more dramatic and we're getting more drama this
01:06:58
season.
01:07:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:07:00
I'm going to tell you right now if one of those people, one of
01:07:04
our core people, turns out to be a freaking monster, I'm going
01:07:09
to lose my shit.
01:07:09
I am going to tell you right now I am going to lose it
01:07:13
because that would be the biggest spoiler of all spoilers.
01:07:17
Yeah, I know nothing.
01:07:19
I know nothing.
01:07:20
We have not, we have not gone ahead, and I don't think they
01:07:23
would reveal that yet.
01:07:24
But if they do that and it's, and it's someone that's like I
01:07:29
don't even know, like for lack of a better term Kenny, or, or
01:07:34
somebody like you know that you just wouldn't expect.
01:07:37
Yeah, Like you'd never expect her.
01:07:38
Yeah, Like I'm just saying, I would lose my shit.
01:07:44
Speaker 4: Has anyone ever brought up the theory of it
01:07:47
being like, like, almost like connected, like the Salem witch
01:07:50
trials, like an evolution of that over time?
01:07:52
No, almost like connected, like the salem witch trials, like an
01:07:59
evolution of that over time?
01:08:00
No, why is so in?
01:08:00
In the salem witch trials, like , the first three witches that
01:08:02
were like were killed, were two, sarahs and titiba, and titiba
01:08:04
is not a modern name but tabitha is no, titiba was not killed.
01:08:08
Was she accused then or booked she?
01:08:12
Speaker 3: was accused.
01:08:13
What happened was that Tituba worked in Samuel Parrish's home.
01:08:22
Samuel Parrish was one of the ministers and he was the
01:08:28
minister in Salem Village.
01:08:29
Yeah, and of course, tabitha's acting Village.
01:08:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, and of course Tabitha's actually a witch.
01:08:38
Sorry, I was just pulling these names and they're very famous
01:08:42
witch names.
01:08:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it got me thinking yeah, it did work.
01:08:46
Speaker 4: Like the rune or symbol, you know, or seeing that
01:08:49
it's very witch vibe.
01:08:51
So I was like this could be some evolution of that or would
01:08:55
explain a lot of this stuff being possible.
01:08:59
Speaker 3: I mean I'm sitting here, oh, that's my guitar book,
01:09:04
mikey Clayley.
01:09:05
I've got this book sitting here , which is Sir William.
01:09:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're ready to school me on my Salem witch
01:09:10
stuff, and I love that I'm here for Smith.
01:09:11
Yeah, you're ready to school me on my Salem Witch stuff, and I
01:09:12
love that I'm here for it.
01:09:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I have a partially written book that I
01:09:18
wrote during COVID.
01:09:19
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
01:09:20
Speaker 3: So that's why, but Sarah Good and Sarah Nurse?
01:09:25
Speaker 4: Yes.
01:09:26
Speaker 3: And both of them were hung.
01:09:28
Speaker 4: And Tituba.
01:09:29
Speaker 3: They were yeah, tituba was just a slave and um,
01:09:35
she ended up.
01:09:36
No one knows what happened to her, but she got sold off okay,
01:09:41
it's something good and again, I don't think they're gonna.
01:09:43
Speaker 4: it's good, I wouldn't think it would be so like exact
01:09:47
of the salem witch, but some evolution of witchcraft that
01:09:50
built this place is is a that I didn't know had been talked
01:09:54
about.
01:09:54
It'd be interesting.
01:09:55
Yeah, definitely.
01:09:57
Everything you're seeing I feel like could go that vibe.
01:10:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it definitely could.
01:10:04
And the thing about it is, when I saw that one painting of the
01:10:12
oldest soldier right, that's where I was going I was like
01:10:17
that's like 1690s, like 16 yeah it wasn't quite 1670s.
01:10:23
well, it could have been 1670s, but it was that kind of style,
01:10:26
yeah, and that's what it made me think of.
01:10:28
And when we see the three cabins and you know they were
01:10:33
talking about this in the comments over there but the
01:10:36
three cabins and you know they were talking about this in the
01:10:43
comments over there, but the three cabins, like it takes so
01:10:46
much to build one cabin, you know, and manpower or limited
01:10:52
tools and whatever it took just to build those cabins.
01:10:56
We don't know just how old they are, but then, looking at the
01:11:04
scarecrows that they created, they seemed more like very
01:11:10
folkloric.
01:11:11
Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I mean?
01:11:12
Yeah, old.
01:11:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it would have been of that time, like the
01:11:15
folklore-y yes, you know what I mean.
01:11:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, old yeah, like it would have been of that time,
01:11:16
like the late 1600s and also a lot of curse, like things going
01:11:21
on like the season 2 story arc, and then now with Fatima and her
01:11:25
eating like rotten stuff.
01:11:27
Oh my god.
01:11:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I meant to talk about that.
01:11:30
Speaker 4: It was very witch like a curse too.
01:11:32
Speaker 3: It was very yes.
01:11:33
And talk about that.
01:11:33
It was very witch, like a curse too.
01:11:34
It was very yes.
01:11:34
Speaker 2: And they stuck that in right at the end.
01:11:36
It was so creepy.
01:11:36
Speaker 3: Right to it Perfectly creepy and like I was looking,
01:11:40
because I was looking at the staircase that Tabitha had
01:11:44
walked up in the lighthouse and between 1609 and 1703, 1609
01:11:55
would probably be unlikely for white settlers depending, like
01:12:01
if that was Virginia maybe.
01:12:02
Right.
01:12:04
Because wasn't it 1608?
01:12:06
They landed right and then remember that that first
01:12:10
settlement just completely disappeared.
01:12:13
Speaker 2: They died.
01:12:14
Well, they don't know they never found trace of them.
01:12:17
Speaker 4: What's that roanoke right?
01:12:19
Are you talking about roanoke?
01:12:20
Yes, we're getting into some interesting stuff here.
01:12:23
That would be.
01:12:24
That would be crazy you know, it's really I know it's not, it
01:12:31
has has.
01:12:32
Yeah.
01:12:33
Speaker 3: Oh my God, because one of the dates, one of the
01:12:36
years if those are years that are on that staircase 1609,
01:12:42
that's where that settlement came from.
01:12:44
Speaker 4: That'd be crazy If you just broke up, open some,
01:12:47
some season four.
01:12:50
Speaker 3: I need to write an article about this and get it
01:12:53
published, but yeah, but like, think about that.
01:12:56
I can't remember when they sailed away to go back to europe
01:13:01
to get more people yeah, they came, but when?
01:13:03
Speaker 4: they came back remember that whole settlement
01:13:05
was gone I've listened to multiple podcasts talk about
01:13:08
that and it's there's very specific dates and very it'd be
01:13:11
easy to get, obtain that and try to line it up.
01:13:13
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I could Google it right now,
01:13:17
but then 1703.
01:13:19
So 1703 was that other date and that would kind of be that.
01:13:26
Look, I think of that first soldier, but I don't even know
01:13:33
what we were talking about.
01:13:34
My mind was blown with three cabins.
01:13:36
Speaker 4: I thought when actually when season two
01:13:38
happened, I would be like this would be really, really cool if
01:13:41
when you're like looking around the lighthouse you could see
01:13:43
other buildings in the distance.
01:13:44
That would have like, yeah, but then you know, come season
01:13:47
three, it happens right away without seeing over.
01:13:50
But that would have been a really creepy look like over, I
01:13:53
know, and they never showed it.
01:13:54
Speaker 2: They just they showed trees, yeah, but you couldn't
01:13:57
see anything else wonder not even the town guys, in 1703, the
01:14:03
great storm uh ravaged southern um england.
01:14:09
Oh wait, no.
01:14:09
I thought it's a new england.
01:14:10
Sorry, oh okay, um, oh wait, no , no.
01:14:11
I thought it said New England.
01:14:14
Sorry, oh okay, oh wait, no, no .
01:14:16
Eddie Stone Lighthouse off of Plymouth was destroyed in a
01:14:19
storm designed by Henry E E E Plymouth, England.
01:14:25
That matters, I know it does.
01:14:29
It's kind of a small little detail, right.
01:14:33
Speaker 3: We don't even know where this place is.
01:14:36
Speaker 4: No.
01:14:36
Speaker 3: I was in a little bit of a Facebook tiff because this
01:14:39
girl was like oh, they're in Michigan, because this, this and
01:14:43
that's in Michigan and I live in Michigan.
01:14:45
I'm like we have no idea where they are?
01:14:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not.
01:14:48
I don't think they're.
01:14:49
She got mad at me.
01:14:51
Yeah.
01:14:52
I don't think they're.
01:14:55
Speaker 3: She got mad at me.
01:14:56
I don't even know where they are, oh my gosh.
01:14:57
So I'm ready for boom one, if you guys are ready before you
01:15:04
get to boom one.
01:15:06
Speaker 2: We are the what is from cast.
01:15:09
Speaker 3: I think at this point we're not even required in our
01:15:13
seventh hour of non-stop radio commercial, free, whatever it
01:15:19
seems like.
01:15:20
Speaker 2: And we have our guest , andy.
01:15:23
I'm sorry, andy, I'm just no.
01:15:26
I don't want to call you whatever I want.
01:15:33
I want to call you the right name, and you know.
01:15:37
Yeah, so boom, number one.
01:15:40
Speaker 3: I can't wait for it, I'm just pissed that I forgot
01:15:43
about Fatima, you know.
01:15:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was having a little light dinner.
01:15:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh, my God.
01:15:50
But you know what?
01:15:52
I think that that is A pregnancy thing, because I think
01:15:57
no, nobody eats rotten food.
01:16:00
I know nobody eats rotten food, but there are weird cravings
01:16:06
that women have.
01:16:07
Speaker 2: Of all the cravings of all the world, rotten food is
01:16:11
not One of them.
01:16:13
Speaker 3: You never know.
01:16:14
Oh wait a minute.
01:16:15
I think it's a differ, because you know what?
01:16:17
Lizzie Borden's father, Andrew Borden, would not pay top price
01:16:24
for fresh food.
01:16:25
They were always eating rotten meat.
01:16:28
Speaker 2: I really don't care about Lizzie Borden.
01:16:30
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
01:16:33
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now that's some really messed
01:16:37
up from stuff.
01:16:38
Speaker 4: Well, she's, so, she's, she's can't eat, she says
01:16:42
.
01:16:42
The smell of food, uh makes her nauseous yeah and what doesn't
01:16:46
is like the opposite of you know edible food, so right, it's a
01:16:51
curse yeah you gotta smash other .
01:16:55
Speaker 2: All I'm thinking of when you're talking about all
01:16:57
this witch stuff, it first off we I went on vacation and we
01:17:01
actually went to salem.
01:17:02
That's awesome, yeah, and I, which was kind of neat.
01:17:05
But the other thing is you're talking about the scarlet letter
01:17:08
.
01:17:08
I'm thinking of the, the book, or the, the story of the lottery
01:17:12
.
01:17:12
Speaker 3: Okay, oh my God, I hate that story.
01:17:15
Speaker 2: I hate it too.
01:17:16
I hate it.
01:17:17
Do you know what the lottery is ?
01:17:20
Speaker 4: Andy, no, but I guess I should stay away, right,
01:17:22
shirley Jackson.
01:17:23
Speaker 2: It's a high school read, go read it.
01:17:26
Speaker 3: It's written by Shirley Jackson.
01:17:29
Speaker 2: So basically, the long and the short of it is
01:17:33
every year they have a good crop season, I think it was.
01:17:38
They put everybody's name in a hat and whoever gets pulled out
01:17:43
they kill.
01:17:43
Okay, I'm giving the short answer.
01:17:48
Speaker 3: It's a short story.
01:17:49
Yeah, you should read it.
01:17:52
It gets referenced a lot.
01:17:54
Speaker 4: Okay.
01:17:54
Speaker 3: The lottery.
01:17:57
Speaker 4: I will hate it with you all next time we bring it up
01:18:00
.
01:18:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's showing this.
01:18:02
It's a reading list.
01:18:06
Speaker 2: Wait, no, that's not what it is.
01:18:08
Hold on, Fatima is eating rotten food.
01:18:11
It's exactly something that would happen in Iran right now.
01:18:14
Yeah, but, and I get that, but that's not what this was.
01:18:18
This was some freaky, freaky shit.
01:18:20
I'm sorry.
01:18:21
There is no way in hell that this has anything to do with
01:18:25
that.
01:18:26
I'm this is me talking.
01:18:27
I'm telling you this has to do with whatever's in her belly,
01:18:31
and I don't know if it's real, if it's fake, if it's monster,
01:18:34
if it's what, but that is just some freaky from.
01:18:37
If they don't get that, baby and it's healthy.
01:18:41
Speaker 4: It's going to be quite the jarring thing for
01:18:48
everybody, oh, my God.
01:18:51
Speaker 2: Let's go to boom one so we can get out of here
01:18:53
sometime.
01:18:56
Speaker 3: Okay, sometime tonight, everybody, oh, my god,
01:18:59
let's go to boom one so we can get out of here sometime, okay,
01:19:01
sometime tonight.
01:19:02
So, um, it's kenny and boyd boyd coming upon kenny in the
01:19:04
bar and he's filling up jugs of, you know, basically butane.
01:19:09
Yes, you know, yeah, and um, he wants to make all of them pay
01:19:15
and it just it was just breaking my heart looking at him being
01:19:21
so angry.
01:19:22
And they go to the tunnels and it.
01:19:26
It's hard to tell if it's late in the day, because when it's
01:19:30
snowing out there's so many clouds you can't yeah, you know
01:19:33
tell and, um, I'm just worried.
01:19:37
Speaker 4: You know that they're going in and it's like late in
01:19:41
the day and these things are going to be getting up with and
01:19:44
with not clear heads yeah, they're not clear heads and boyd
01:19:50
was a very good dad in that scene he was and I wondered if
01:19:54
it, because when he started talking to Ellis it actually
01:19:56
made me feel and I was like is this a storyline you're going to
01:19:59
see, where he's like being more of a better father figure to
01:20:02
Kenny that he is to his own son who's having a baby more drama
01:20:10
yeah, exactly.
01:20:11
Speaker 3: I love this scene yeah, it was really you, because
01:20:16
they're out there and they don't know how many are in there
01:20:19
and Boyd makes this comment that Victor said there's a lot
01:20:24
of them in there, right, and then that Jade didn't see any.
01:20:29
And I'm wondering, you know it could have been the part of the
01:20:35
tunnels that they were in.
01:20:36
Sure, you know, because Tabitha certainly saw some and I can't
01:20:47
remember how Jade ended up in the tunnel, but you know,
01:20:48
looking up, and he just saw the kids, you know.
01:20:57
But Kenny just thinking about his mom in her last moments and
01:20:59
yeah, he's not in a good place and he's not in a good, but he
01:21:01
does.
01:21:01
Speaker 2: He does make a good point.
01:21:02
You know, we did, we did kill the the one guy.
01:21:05
Maybe we can kill some, have we ?
01:21:07
Yeah?
01:21:07
Speaker 4: exactly looked to see which ones were shot with the
01:21:10
silver bullets and to see if they're still out, that we've
01:21:13
seen them since, because that was the back of my mind.
01:21:16
All the monsters, no, all the monsters.
01:21:19
They are still like exactly, yeah.
01:21:23
Speaker 3: I mean, the saddest thing is just.
01:21:26
You know, tian Chen's last words are like take care of him,
01:21:29
he's all alone now, you know, and that was how boyd got kenny
01:21:36
to leave yeah because otherwise he wouldn't have left, he would
01:21:40
have gone in there and we would have lost at least kenny, if not
01:21:44
boyd as well yeah, or you know it would have been like you're
01:21:48
in our house now.
01:21:49
Yeah, let's play with you some more, um so my last yeah, number
01:21:57
two um, oh yeah.
01:22:02
So ethan wants to know if they're still gonna leave and
01:22:05
live in the house, because you know it was tian chen's house.
01:22:09
I mean, I don't think the house has really belonged to anybody
01:22:13
since the occupants on the whole house, the whole house.
01:22:18
Speaker 2: Thing that really pissed me off was when, uh,
01:22:21
sarah went back into the house and that that crazy guy that
01:22:25
shot boy and give her.
01:22:26
I mean, like dude, like what do you like?
01:22:30
Speaker 4: you've been here for two seconds, yeah, yeah, like
01:22:32
but, it said you don't even know anybody it set the tone for you
01:22:35
to really not like that guy, especially when he started, you
01:22:37
know, grabbing guns and killing yeah I know, yeah yeah so um, I
01:22:45
wanted, I wanted him to give her the shirt yeah.
01:22:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just dumb.
01:22:51
It was like it was an unnecessary fight, right.
01:22:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:22:55
So let's see.
01:23:01
Speaker 2: Boom number two.
01:23:02
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:23:02
So Ethan wants to know if they're still going to live
01:23:05
there and Jim is like one step at a time and then Jim notices
01:23:10
that Julie is veering off as they walk at a time.
01:23:15
And then jim notices that julie is veering off as they walk.
01:23:17
Julie, because this is before they get in the house.
01:23:18
Julia is going to check on animals and jim says it's almost
01:23:21
dark because ethan says he's going to go talk to um forget.
01:23:28
Ethan says he's going to oh, going with her.
01:23:31
Jim says he loves them as they're walking off, kind of
01:23:36
like I don't know if I'll see you again, kind of.
01:23:39
Speaker 4: I love you.
01:23:39
I thought it was just him trying to be dad.
01:23:44
Hey, I'm your dad.
01:23:45
I'm here Trying to score points , in a sense Not score points,
01:23:49
because I think he does love them, but you're not Trying to
01:23:52
say I'm right here.
01:23:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the real father of the year.
01:23:56
Speaker 3: Yeah Well, I don't know.
01:23:58
It's interesting because last season they didn't give Jim a
01:24:01
lot to do and so far this season he seems pretty busy.
01:24:06
So the big thing is that, you know, he walks in the house and
01:24:12
he goes into the kitchen and he's at the sink and the phone
01:24:15
starts ringing.
01:24:16
Which is always and he answers the phone and it's like dad,
01:24:21
it's Thomas.
01:24:22
Yeah.
01:24:22
Thomas couldn't speak.
01:24:26
Speaker 2: That was freaky.
01:24:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:24:27
Speaker 4: It wasn't Like Thomas was an infant.
01:24:29
I didn't know what to expect.
01:24:31
But then when that happened, it didn't surprise me.
01:24:33
I was just like, okay, it's just psychological.
01:24:37
But I wonder if that's why they're unraveling him and
01:24:40
making him think he's crazy, which will make him be less
01:24:45
effective of a father, and just keep that string pulling.
01:24:49
Speaker 2: But this is where he needs to talk to Boyd, so that.
01:24:53
Boyd can tell him that these guys like to play with you
01:24:58
because they tried to use my wife's image to mess with me.
01:25:04
So I mean, I just think that this is one of the down parts of
01:25:10
the show.
01:25:11
Which makes it so good is if they would just talk.
01:25:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need to get community powwows, like once
01:25:18
at the night.
01:25:19
What happened once?
01:25:21
Speaker 3: an hour, once an hour , yeah, so I need a note in here
01:25:25
somewhere about people talking and I can't now I don't know.
01:25:29
Speaker 2: I know they do talk, it's just.
01:25:31
It's just, we want to see them in like a whole neighborhood
01:25:35
meeting talking about it.
01:25:36
Speaker 3: Right, you know.
01:25:37
But the thing about Jim, about them doing that to Jim, he's
01:25:44
separated from Tabitha, so his touchstone is not there.
01:25:48
His touchstone is not there, but on top of it, he's the most
01:25:53
methodical thinker in that town.
01:25:57
Speaker 4: He's an engineer, yeah he does usually have a
01:25:59
train of thought when it comes to yeah, well, I guess the
01:26:03
conspiracy part of season two he was.
01:26:05
He was a little astray, but yeah he'd right in the situation
01:26:10
, though he was the one that was level-headed in that when it
01:26:12
got out of hand.
01:26:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
01:26:15
So for him to pick up the phone and hear that, like we all know
01:26:23
that Thomas was an infant couldn't speak like that.
01:26:27
But will Jim like what will Jim ?
01:26:32
What will be his response?
01:26:35
Like what's going to happen to Jim?
01:26:37
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, but at least it's like clear,
01:26:40
clear that he he shouldn't believe that if it was Tabitha,
01:26:45
I think that would open up a bigger bucket of worms because
01:26:48
he's believing the Tabitha is talking to him and Tabitha we
01:26:51
know.
01:26:51
Tabitha is not doing that.
01:26:53
She's in a basement looking to pay Right, exactly.
01:26:56
That can be very problematic.
01:27:02
Speaker 3: But it would have been just as good of a
01:27:04
cliffhanger if it was Tabitha saying I'm over here, yeah.
01:27:11
Speaker 4: Come to the woods and get me.
01:27:12
Speaker 3: How can there?
01:27:13
Speaker 4: be a phone line.
01:27:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at the pay phone at the lighthouse.
01:27:19
Yeah, yeah, come get me come pick me up.
01:27:21
Speaker 2: All right, guys.
01:27:23
I think we did some damage to this episode.
01:27:26
I know we probably missed some things that and I gotta tell you
01:27:30
know it's amazing to see some of this stuff in the chat.
01:27:33
I mean, they're going nuts, I know.
01:27:36
I just want to thank everybody for being there.
01:27:40
But you know that, all being said, before we get out of here,
01:27:46
I just wanted to talk about a couple of things.
01:27:49
Yes, when is it?
01:27:53
Where is the little?
01:27:55
Of course it's not going to open, because that would be too
01:28:00
easy.
01:28:03
Speaker 3: God forbid.
01:28:05
Speaker 2: We have our season one tribute poster, which we are
01:28:11
coming close to selling out.
01:28:14
I meant to buy that on Saturday .
01:28:16
Speaker 4: I'm going to buy it right when I get off this.
01:28:18
Well, thank you so much, Because now we can, of course,
01:28:24
no, I genuinely I was like it's very cool and I like, yeah,
01:28:27
we're working on season two and then hopefully we'll have a
01:28:31
season three and you guys can do a whole deal with that as well?
01:28:34
Are you going to sneak Frank in there somehow?
01:28:37
Speaker 3: Maybe he's in there, isn't he?
01:28:38
Speaker 4: He's in the box.
01:28:39
He's in the box.
01:28:41
He's in the box, yeah.
01:28:44
Speaker 2: He's in the box.
01:28:44
He's definitely in the box, and also folks.
01:28:49
Next week we are going to be talking season three, episode
01:28:57
three.
01:28:57
This one Called the Mousetrap, so we will probably be talking
01:29:03
about what happened with Boyd and Kenny.
01:29:09
I wonder you know what kind of craziness that they're going to
01:29:16
end up having.
01:29:16
And in the meantime, you know, keep the conversation going on
01:29:22
all the sites.
01:29:23
I know podcast is doing a bunch of different shows.
01:29:28
I know a bunch of shows are coming back on.
01:29:30
I know Daryl Dixon started today.
01:29:33
I know a bunch of shows are coming back on.
01:29:40
I know Daryl Dixon started today and I know our friends
01:29:42
over at Adrenaline are finishing up Snowpiercer, as well as our
01:29:44
friends over at Run For your Lives are doing Twisters.
01:29:47
I think this week Run for your Lives are doing Twisters, I
01:29:50
think this week.
01:29:51
So if you've seen Twister and you want to see Twisters, it's a
01:29:56
great.
01:29:57
They do a lot of scary stuff.
01:29:58
They do more scary stuff than Twisters-type stuff, but they do
01:30:03
all that.
01:30:04
So, andy, just tell us a little bit about your content creation
01:30:08
and all the other good stuff that you're doing.
01:30:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't mean to have a career in just
01:30:20
creating videos, but uh, it's been awesome.
01:30:21
I started out making videos.
01:30:21
I launched a skateboard company from it, Um, so I do a lot of
01:30:23
like skateboarding content.
01:30:23
I do a lot of like just whatever's happening in my life
01:30:26
with my friends and family that I think is entertaining.
01:30:28
Uh, I've been doing it for a long time now and I actually got
01:30:31
into acting a little bit.
01:30:32
That's what I want.
01:30:33
I want to tone back on the creating aspect and do more of
01:30:37
that and like just creating.
01:30:38
For you know, on other projects that are, yeah.
01:30:42
Speaker 2: When, when you're rich and famous like you are and
01:30:45
you want to come back and you're in from hopefully we'll
01:30:52
be able to get an interview.
01:30:52
Speaker 3: And away, away you go .
01:30:53
I just thought we weren't at the funeral you should have been
01:30:56
we should have been at the funeral we should have gone.
01:30:59
Speaker 2: I'm just.
01:31:00
Speaker 4: I'm just happy, just to you guys got an awesome,
01:31:04
awesome thing here.
01:31:05
Speaker 2: It's why well, we're still trying to figure out what
01:31:09
we're doing.
01:31:09
We're still um, we're still trying.
01:31:12
I know somebody asked this and I asked them too.
01:31:14
Speaker 4: Um, you know, we need a from, we need a front deck I
01:31:18
don't know how to I'll I'll send them a dm and say hey, let's
01:31:21
make a skateboard.
01:31:22
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens yeah, you might, you
01:31:25
might, you might know one or two people, um, but yeah, no, I
01:31:28
think that's awesome, I think that would be very cool.
01:31:30
Speaker 4: Honestly, yeah, they I want from shirts and hoodies
01:31:32
and they should.
01:31:33
They should make more merch in general you know what?
01:31:36
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother issue.
01:31:37
But going back to that, that's why we make yeah, I made my own,
01:31:40
you know, we don't.
01:31:42
We don't mess around.
01:31:43
I mean, that's one of the things you know.
01:31:45
When I saw you, you had your red from shirt on and, um, you
01:31:50
know it's.
01:31:50
I think it's really cool that people are really starting to
01:31:54
embrace this show and it's taking up three seasons.
01:31:59
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen it snowball, but I think it's
01:32:02
going to get really like really crazy after this season.
01:32:06
I think we're, I think a lot of people are jumping on, as they
01:32:11
should.
01:32:11
You know, I've been alone.
01:32:14
Speaker 3: Everybody, tell everybody I know it was.
01:32:19
You know, like al, like I was glad alex said yes, you know one
01:32:26
of the happiest days of my life , alex oh, please but I was
01:32:32
alone for like so long.
01:32:35
Yeah.
01:32:35
You know, like I had no one to talk to about it and I remember
01:32:39
like laying, you know, I'd watch it in bed sometimes.
01:32:43
You know that first season because I was waiting for Sunday
01:32:46
to come.
01:32:47
Yeah.
01:32:47
You know, and I would lay there and my face is smushed like this
01:32:52
and I'm watching with one eye and I'm just like I can't be the
01:32:55
only one that no one's talking.
01:32:57
Speaker 4: I was terrified.
01:32:58
That's why and I have an online following, so I just started
01:33:02
talking about it and you know that's like I almost feel
01:33:06
annoying to my followers because they're not there for a sci-fi
01:33:09
horror show and I just talk, yeah, yeah.
01:33:13
Speaker 2: Stupid, stupid.
01:33:14
Yeah, stupid tricks and stuff.
01:33:16
Speaker 4: Which is fun too.
01:33:17
But I got scared.
01:33:20
I was like this has to have another season, I have to tell
01:33:22
everybody and then get them to tell everybody.
01:33:24
So that was my, that's what was my plan.
01:33:28
Speaker 2: I think that's great.
01:33:29
I think that's great that there's so many different people
01:33:35
that are watching it and they're making it hard.
01:33:41
I'm not going to lie Putting it on MGM Plus.
01:33:43
They're making it hard but they're trying to build up MGM
01:33:46
Plus.
01:33:47
That's kind of their goal.
01:33:48
I really think that it's great that they're putting money into
01:33:54
it this year.
01:33:54
Yeah, I mean the monsters, everything.
01:33:56
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:33:56
And the fact they do it on Prime Video for free on the
01:33:59
other seasons leading up to it.
01:34:00
I think that goes a long way for the show and MGM Plus.
01:34:03
I think it's a really good situation.
01:34:07
Speaker 2: And the main thing is we're lucky enough to get to,
01:34:14
to get screeners, and get the opportunity, the opportunity to
01:34:18
interview the, the cast and and and crew and all sorts of good
01:34:23
stuff, and they're all, they're all.
01:34:26
Amazing anyone?
01:34:27
I mean, they just they just seem to be amazing and, um, they
01:34:34
really have called it the little show that could and
01:34:36
they've just kind of just kept going.
01:34:39
The only thing, and again, the only criticism I have is and I
01:34:43
know it, just I wish there was like two more episodes.
01:34:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel that, so they can have a few shows in
01:34:50
the future these days, I know they all do 10 because they can
01:34:54
and whatever else.
01:34:55
Speaker 2: If they just did one or two more episodes it would
01:34:59
just make life so much easier for us.
01:35:04
Because not?
01:35:05
Not, not that it's easier.
01:35:07
They could make that extra storyline.
01:35:11
You know that we talked about and it's.
01:35:13
Speaker 4: The world is so large that we talked about and um,
01:35:14
it's.
01:35:14
The world is so large, like what the.
01:35:16
I know it's technically small but it's such.
01:35:19
There's so much stuff and it's very dense, like where they
01:35:23
could go with it and stories they could like elaborate on
01:35:27
yeah, and I think we would all watch a hundred episodes a
01:35:30
season, if they made them.
01:35:32
Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
01:35:33
Speaker 2: So, what we got out of this from you is you want to
01:35:36
skateboard the pool at prom and you're you're trying to get on
01:35:43
the set of prom, so that's basically what I would
01:35:45
definitely say that we want.
01:35:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want all those things.
01:35:50
Speaker 2: My my, you know, my takeaway from this whole
01:35:55
experience is, when we interviewed Harold, he said he
01:35:58
wants to hang out with us.
01:35:59
Yeah, he didn't exactly say what he said was we need to
01:36:03
spend some time together on the podcast, but I'm saying that
01:36:08
Harold wants to hang out with me and I'm just going with that
01:36:13
because you know we got to get him on the show.
01:36:16
You know he said it, we got to get him on the show, as well, as
01:36:20
there's others.
01:36:21
We still haven't been able to get David Alpen.
01:36:24
You know, jade, he just doesn't do interviews, he just he only
01:36:28
does the big stuff.
01:36:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to his Instagram and he hadn't like
01:36:32
uploaded since January or something which I can relate to.
01:36:34
I'm actually terrible using social media.
01:36:37
Despite that, I have like a career on it.
01:36:40
Speaker 2: Isn't that great, you know?
01:36:43
Yeah, no, speaking of that, I do want to.
01:36:46
I do want to tell people thank you so much because we just
01:36:50
broke the 600 subscriber mark.
01:36:53
You so much because we just broke the 600 um subscriber mark
01:36:56
and hopefully, by the end of this, this uh, this episode, you
01:36:58
know, after the next week we'll be up to, hopefully, 650, maybe
01:37:02
700 um.
01:37:03
The goal, the goal, as you well know, is to get to that
01:37:06
thousand, that thousand uh, uh mark, with all the views.
01:37:11
You know we're, we're trying to get the views and I'm trying to
01:37:14
do more shorts and all that other kind of stuff.
01:37:15
Shorts are key.
01:37:17
Speaker 4: Shorts are key these days for subscribers.
01:37:19
It's a weird world.
01:37:22
Speaker 2: It's weird, it's a weird thing.
01:37:25
Speaker 4: On to the next.
01:37:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's our story and we're sticking to
01:37:31
it.
01:37:31
I want to thank you once again, andy.
01:37:34
Well, definitely, you have an open invitation whenever you
01:37:38
want, and also I'll show you the controls so that you guys can
01:37:42
just go on your deep dive, you and Lizzie, and I'll just-.
01:37:44
Oh, can I make a request?
01:37:46
Speaker 4: Absolutely you need to do an award of looking back
01:37:52
who got the theories most right and who got the theories most
01:37:56
wrong, because that would be funny.
01:37:58
But it's so fascinating and so many wild ideas.
01:38:02
There has to be like a let's wrap up and see who was on top
01:38:05
of guessing what was happening.
01:38:07
Speaker 2: I will say this Lizzie, in her other podcast,
01:38:11
when she was doing the walking dead, used to do a um, what was
01:38:16
it?
01:38:16
You know who was gonna die?
01:38:18
Speaker 3: oh, that's fine oh oh what was it called um?
01:38:23
It was a game.
01:38:25
Who dies?
01:38:26
Speaker 2: it was a game.
01:38:26
It was like there was hundreds of people that did this.
01:38:29
There was a game and we kept scored.
01:38:33
Speaker 3: It was like you know who killed, you know how many
01:38:35
zombies you killed, you got injured, you lost points.
01:38:40
You know lost points if you died.
01:38:43
And so people would win and we just I would get prizes.
01:38:49
You know like it started out, where my partner and I we would
01:38:52
just go and buy the prizes and then we would get prizes.
01:38:53
You know like it started out where my partner and I we would
01:38:54
just go and buy the prizes and then we would get prizes.
01:38:57
And then the last season because it was our last season
01:39:02
and it was three season, three like sections we had four total
01:39:08
winner, no, four, five or six, I don't know.
01:39:11
We gave away so much, probably over $1 in merchandise and
01:39:20
it was all Walking Dead related.
01:39:21
That's awesome.
01:39:21
One guy it cost me $50 to mail his stuff $50.
01:39:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not cheap these days.
01:39:32
Speaker 3: No, and that was when the show ended.
01:39:35
He had two boxes.
01:39:37
He had won like a I don't know a couple of different categories
01:39:42
because, like, even the lowest, like the person with the lowest
01:39:47
score, would win, and it wasn't just like one or two things, it
01:39:50
was like tons of stuff.
01:39:52
Yeah, yeah, you know.
01:39:54
Speaker 2: So I just put it on the screen.
01:39:55
I saw that, yeah, somebody's looking for a From deck.
01:40:00
Well, I'm going to tell you right now when you're ready to
01:40:03
make a From deck let us know we will definitely want to raffle
01:40:07
it off.
01:40:08
I thought you were talking about a tarot deck, because
01:40:12
someone mentioned a tarot deck you need to make skateboard
01:40:15
decks, and if I could, I'd even buy one for my own, just to kind
01:40:21
of put it up, because I'm a skateboarder.
01:40:23
Speaker 4: They're fun to hang on the wall.
01:40:24
But I did want to say I saw the message, frank, thank you,
01:40:28
you're the man that would be cool.
01:40:32
Speaker 2: Frank also is a subscriber to your channel?
01:40:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know him actually.
01:40:37
Oh yeah, he's a, he's a very good dude.
01:40:41
So are you a gamer as well?
01:40:44
I like, I mean I like video games.
01:40:45
I I do have a video game channel that I do with my friend
01:40:47
, but it's like just a side thing.
01:40:48
What, what, what, what, what games do you play?
01:40:56
We play whatever the internet wants to say.
01:40:58
See, but when I I stay pretty busy.
01:40:59
But when I do play for myself, it's usually like I grew up on
01:41:01
final fantasy, um, like legend of zelda type stuff, um, well,
01:41:06
we have.
01:41:06
Speaker 2: We have a little group in our zed head group.
01:41:08
We play dead by daylight almost every night okay, well.
01:41:13
Well, andy, we got to get you on because we're crazy, yeah, and
01:41:20
we would love to have you as one of our guests.
01:41:22
Yeah, let's do it.
01:41:23
We'll definitely message you afterwards, but again, I want to
01:41:27
thank you so much.
01:41:28
You know I forget if I reached out to you or you reached out to
01:41:31
me, but I'm just really glad that we could make this work and
01:41:35
, like you said, whenever you're ready to come on back, you
01:41:40
always have an open invitation.
01:41:41
That means the world.
01:41:43
And if you ever want to nudge me and say, be here this Sunday,
01:41:46
just say the word.
01:41:47
Well, and you know something you were really cool about that.
01:41:50
I mean, you know, I asked him and he's like yeah, let me just
01:41:54
talk to my wife.
01:41:55
Oh yeah, we'll do it.
01:41:56
Speaker 4: We'll do it.
01:41:56
Especially at this time of night I can get this going.
01:42:00
Speaker 2: You're on the west coast.
01:42:01
Speaker 4: You're in Ohio, so Midwest.
01:42:03
Speaker 2: Oh okay, let's get home.
01:42:06
Get you home, let's go, come on .
01:42:10
Get in your house, let's go, come on.