6: "The Rule of Five Hundred" (S1E7)
1923 'CastFebruary 22, 202300:46:1442.34 MB

6: "The Rule of Five Hundred" (S1E7)

Join Alex and Jerry for the penultimate episode of 1923 Banner's backer is having a better day, blowing up Montana's mountains to make way for his miners. As his workers prepare to reap the land's resources, Whitfield's approached by a man with an urgent message: Jacob Dutton is not only alive and well, but his would-be killer is behind bars



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[00:00:00] And we are back to episode 7 of the penultimate episode of our favorite show, which is 1923. And we got a doozy this week. It seemed like we got a little cinemax after dark in a way.

[00:00:46] It was kind of a crazy, crazy thing going on. We had a lot of different things and my name is Alex. And my name is Jerry. And we are talking 1923. I believe the title of the episode is The Rule of Five Hundred.

[00:01:06] And I know you've been chomping at the bit to try to get me to come on and talk about this. So Jerry, why don't you do the description before we get into all the juicy details? Okay. Yeah. Well, I wrote this description out. We have...

[00:01:23] And it's arrested. Jacob, let's the sheriff take care of some business. Three priests up, three priests down. Tiona's dad and Hank take care of business. And sadly, a very short time with my favorite duo. It is true. Your duo did have a short... Five minutes, was it?

[00:01:49] Five minutes. But it was the best five minutes of the whole show. It was actually the commas five minutes of the show. And when we talk about this show this year, it's been such an up and down. And I'm a little confused with this show in terms of

[00:02:08] this episode. I mean, I liked the episode, but it had some pieces to it that just didn't make sense to me. And I'm wanting to like the show. But right now, I'm like, I mean, I know I've seen some comments online. This is the best show.

[00:02:24] I mean, this episode is the best episode ever to... I just didn't get it. So what was your first thoughts on this particular episode? Well, it was violent as all heck. You think? Yeah. It had some pretty serious violent moments in it. It had some

[00:02:43] raunchy moments in it because we had... Do you want to start with a point here? No, just first thoughts, whatever you want to go for. Yeah. It was extremely violent because we had two different spots where some violence happened. We had the further happenings with Banner and Whitfield.

[00:03:08] What's going on with you guys? We had some nice moments at the ranch between Kara and Elizabeth. And we had... Let's see here. And then we had, of course, some nice moments in Sicily.

[00:03:24] That is for sure. I mean, it was kind of a grab bag. Did it move the plot along? Yes, but did it do it in a weird way? Absolutely. It did in a very violent way.

[00:03:38] I mean, and let's start with the craziest part, which is the show starts off and Banner gets arrested. Right before that, he's trying to... What's the best way of putting this? He's the king in his kingdom. Now, I thought he was married, but I guess if he was...

[00:04:02] Yeah, he's married and he has a couple of ladies on the side and he's walking around like his stuff don't stink. And it is cable, so they have a little bit more leeway.

[00:04:15] And he's trotting himself around and all of a sudden he finds himself getting all locked up. Did you think that was going to happen so soon? Yeah, well I knew that when Jacob relented and he said, because rather than use the posse,

[00:04:33] remember in the last episode he said we're going to do the posse, but he kind of relented with Kara and said, okay, well the sheriff's going to do it because that's the better way of going about it. Right.

[00:04:44] And well, had he taken care of business and just maybe just shot him, it would have been a better place. But we wouldn't have a show in this part of the show in that case.

[00:04:54] But we see Banner, like you said, walking around his kingdom because one, he's never had electricity or running water or anything like that, any modern convenience before.

[00:05:06] And we see him go back to the bedroom, smoke and a cigar and finds two women in his bed that are not his wife. Yeah, both of them. And he shows us an alternative method of champagne consumption.

[00:05:19] Absolutely. And I think it was just a very interesting, you know, it's not so much the scene itself wasn't that bad, but I think it was the context of being in this show that really kind of took it like, okay, we're going there. Yeah.

[00:05:39] I mean, I'm not the person to say, oh, they, you know, I'm being prudent, but that was a little much, don't you think for even,

[00:05:47] Yeah, well, being what we've seen in like 1883 with it in a couple spots and and also Yellowstone, there's been a couple, a couple spots in there, but not nearly as I mean, that was like I said, it just to me, I think he missed the mark.

[00:06:06] I mean, was it a fun scene to watch? Absolutely. But it just wasn't, it just didn't seem as appropriate as it should have been.

[00:06:15] But it's a little much and I think, you know, just a toe, I think towing over the line but no, okay, I'll, okay. Yeah, I mean, you know, whatever. So he ends up getting arrested in his slippers and his robe, you have their jacket, you know, smoking jacket.

[00:06:33] And, you know, he's in jail and I love that once Timothy Dalton finds out that he's in jail, he gets him out of jail like that. It's like no big deal.

[00:06:50] Well, it'll take a day because the lawyers, the lawyers going to work on it because I think they're going to do it at the arraignment. Right.

[00:06:56] Yeah, I'm just saying like it was no big deal and and and banner again he's outclassed. He's in a he's in uncharted waters. He's like, wait, you're going to get me out of this in a day.

[00:07:08] Yeah, we're going to get you out. And I love I love how they're just they're just ready to start greasing the Paul. I mean, like the judge and they are they've got all the wheels in motion.

[00:07:18] And, you know, it just it it just goes to show you things don't change. You know, they've been we've been people have been greasing judges for years and I think that it's just part of life.

[00:07:38] But but then but then banner decides to tell him, you know, he asked the lawyer to do something. And this is where I think it goes just completely off frigging rails.

[00:07:49] Yeah, this was this was a bit much about banner going back to the because you know he left the two women or they got left in the house after he got arrested and to end hauled off the jail.

[00:07:58] And he goes to take care of them. And he pays for some other time, but not necessarily in the way you think. Yeah, it involves a blindfold and a belt and somebody else doing doing striking which is like, well, kind of going there.

[00:08:17] We're going there. It's like we're going there. I mean, like I said, yellowstone after dark here.

[00:08:23] Yeah. And it's out of the prairie is and my point to the whole thing is, I know it's to show his deviant side. But was it necessary? I don't know. But it just seemed like it was just it didn't fit the show.

[00:08:41] And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm being a little prudish, but I just it just felt like it just didn't fit the show. And yeah, I think they could have hinted at it without you know, without actually showing it.

[00:08:54] But they could have done a lot of things. I mean, you know, they could have made it more quote unquote tasteful.

[00:09:00] But it just it was really it you know what it reminded me of it's like this is just icky in a weird way like when two parents are fighting and you just don't know what to say.

[00:09:11] You know, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here. Am I supposed to enjoy this laugh cry do something and I'm like, I yeah. And there we go.

[00:09:20] But what I love about that is and we'll get to it at the end of the show is they go from that scene to your favorite couple.

[00:09:29] It was like one extreme to the other. But before we get to your favorite couple and my favorite couple, a couple other things that happened that I think are kind of disturbing and important to the show.

[00:09:45] I want to go back a little to our favorite Indians. And that just turned into a shit show very quickly.

[00:09:58] Yeah, and yeah, and we have the characters name is runs his horse who is Tio and his father right finds, you know finds it's actually which I don't know if it's his mother or his mother in law. Yeah, we were not sure.

[00:10:12] I never says yeah but he knows one thing. Yeah, finds her in the cabin and she's very dead at very, very dead. Yeah. And then we have Hank's son. His name is Pete.

[00:10:25] I forget. I forgot to write the rest of the name I just got Pete but he happens along yet to inform him that Tiona had run away from the school because of some bad trouble but he didn't didn't get too far into it.

[00:10:38] And we have okay so he says, okay, go back and say you know or go back home but don't take the same way you came in don't take any major roads just go, you know, go around some other way.

[00:10:51] And it was kind of interesting how he said to do that, because you know, I mean, I have never been in a situation where I've had to think of this way. And if you're a certain minority or you're certain in certain ways, you have to think differently than when you're the establishment so to speak.

[00:11:11] Yeah. And but what runs his horse observed is that that the horses that left the tracks had shoes on. Right. And again, that's a big one and he says, you know, only one group uses you know like this group uses shoes. It's not us white man.

[00:11:30] And the government. Yeah. And so we have to see what's going to result from the marshals, you know, if there's going to be any consequences for those two marshals that ended up killing her.

[00:11:39] Yeah. No, I mean, it was it was really kind of an interesting scene because you know he knew stuff's coming down. And it's just a matter of time when it comes down and then we find the instead of a four horseman the three horsemen of death. Yes.

[00:12:02] And you know, one could have been a good Catholic. One was a deviant Catholic and another one was just crazy, crazy zealot Catholic.

[00:12:19] Yeah. Yeah. And we see and we see Hank's son, you know who's like sitting fireside, who gets a who gets accosted by these three priests on horseback says okay you know you know what are you doing here you know what's what's going on he says I don't have to answer your questions.

[00:12:36] And he ends and they decide it's like well you're going to go back to school. Yeah, I know I love that. You say, and it's like well, like, I'm thinking like kidnapping is okay. I don't know what it amounts to.

[00:12:51] Evidently it is. Yeah but what I liked about that one is when he started when he decides to fight he picks up a flaming log out of the fire and hits the one guy with it. I know. How friggin awesome was that.

[00:13:05] And I was hoping it's like well, I'm hoping it's more than that but you know apparently you can get hit with a flaming log with very little you know with very little damage other than you know being the bludgeoning. Exactly.

[00:13:17] I mean it just it was so messed up but it was awesome. And you know he hits him and then he's just it was a great scene.

[00:13:27] It was satisfying. It was just so satisfying how you want to root for these these Indians because you know as bad as they're showing it and it's hard to watch.

[00:13:38] I mean, you know I've been watching the comments on some other different boards and everybody has said this is such a hard thing to watch but it's so important because it was so true.

[00:13:50] Yeah, and but it's it's three on one so he ends up getting captured and taken by the zealot one. Yeah, the really nice one. Yeah. So we find you know so.

[00:14:03] So after this we have you know and after runs this horse had buried a sock chair at her home, you know done a nice ritual with her.

[00:14:13] He goes and finds Pete's horse, no writer his hat on the ground and and follows the tracks and ends up happening across the the campsite where the priest and Peter at with a very kind of disturbing scene between Pete and that one priest preaching

[00:14:35] and he's like you know we're going to teach you demons or whatever you know whatever he's whatever his his he's going to beat the wild out of him. Yes.

[00:14:45] And we see, you know we see runs this horse has, you know separate a separate idea on that in the form of cutting them across that across the forehead with his knife and then says you know if God's will be it and it's like you

[00:15:02] know if God's will be it and he's willing me to kill you or something. Yeah, I know. So again, it was another off the reservation moment in this off the reservation episode.

[00:15:16] It was it was awful just it was just like, I gotta tell you they they must have it must have been fun to do all these gags but to watch it in the context that we're supposed to be watching it.

[00:15:30] Oh my God. But yeah so he beats the crap out of him and had some across a couple things. And then, yeah and then what's his name. Like you said the father, Benji, he scalps them. Yeah.

[00:15:46] Well I don't I don't did it did he actually do that and I saw he cut him.

[00:15:51] I didn't see him do a poll on it but you know I don't I. Okay, maybe a did or he didn't you know the listeners can maybe say but it looked like he was going to scalp them.

[00:16:02] But whatever regardless he's dead. Yes. And then of course he's gonna take care of the body you know he's got to bury another body at the train the train station, so to speak.

[00:16:15] You take him to the train station is it where what's that yeah you take him to the train station. Yeah, well we'll take him to the train station alright I think that's a nice little Easter egg that they had going down down the road.

[00:16:27] But I mean what a crazy what a crazy thing. So so what's your next point. Okay we have and then we cut to the other two priests.

[00:16:38] And they cross Tiona with her haircut and they don't really recognize her because you know, you know, she's got the her haircut like when Hank, you know, said, you know you're a boy kind of doing the Aria thing right right right right.

[00:16:51] And, and he said, you know, and if they come to the realization okay this is her.

[00:16:58] And the priest start beating her up after she starts fighting back and then Hank ends up shooting the priests with a shotgun right off but he did a very bad thing in that he left a round loaded in the chamber in the in this double barrel shotgun, because he reloaded

[00:17:15] and only shot one one more time leaving around in there and carrying off to Tiona and not taking his rifle. Well that was the other thing yeah and that was his mistake and the end and the first priest they got shot at least I think it was he ends up

[00:17:30] shooting Hank in the back, seemingly killing him. And then Tiona ends up you know fighting him some more and then smashing his head the bits with a stone.

[00:17:39] And not a small stone mind you. Oh no nothing's ever smallness in this only ball my only criticism and it's really not a criticism it's just I'm nitpicking those shells were not 1823 shells.

[00:17:52] I'm sorry 19 they weren't even they were 19 or 1823 shells. You know I mean it was just like it was so modern it was just kind of funny well I don't know if they could have made like a contemporary shell but you know the design really hasn't changed much, you know, maybe I just looked

[00:18:08] it looked a little too, too modern. Yeah I don't know man and again I know I'm messing up 18 and 1923 but you know that's why we are the official unofficial podcast of 1923.

[00:18:23] Yeah, yeah and I can see your point you know it seems a bit anachronistic to have such a modern thing you know. I gotta tell you though, it was so methodical the way he was shooting down. He was so I swear I wish I could be that cool.

[00:18:37] Just pop pop pop. Boom. I'm like come on dude. Can you be any cooler. Yeah, when it comes to this, but it could be cool but maybe not smart so because smart and cool and dead is that better than smart and not cool. Alive and alive and smart.

[00:18:58] Maybe are those things too mutually exclusive. I don't know but yeah that was that was kind of that was kind of messed up. Yeah, but you see and the bad thing in here is now Tiona has to deal with three bodies and an explanation to Pete. Exactly.

[00:19:15] So, alright so a priest, a priest and a priest come into the sheep yard and an Indian fill in the joke yourself. Three priests and an Indian go into a bar. What do you do? You shoot one, you log another and you come on.

[00:19:38] It's so crazy. It's so crazy but yeah I mean she you know they almost like rape their practically. He was I don't know if he was on his way to doing it but he was sure he was just trying to see if it was her.

[00:19:51] Yeah, I mean in so many ways I think he was just trying to see it was her. Making sure that you know maybe because wasn't sure she was she was a female.

[00:20:01] Yeah, you know, I'm sure he's doing his gynecological duties. I guess the Lord's work and the Lord's work. The Lord works in mysterious ways and just keeps on working. Do you have anything else about that that wonderful scene?

[00:20:19] Just as like, you know, take a damn gun with you.

[00:20:24] I know it's so stupid. I mean, and the thing is he's so he's such a smart person that it was really surprising that you know that would have happened but as we know, you know, in this world he Taylor shared and make sure that if there's any good that comes out of anything three bad things have to happen right after that.

[00:20:49] Is that is that like a Taylor shared in a hydro rule. It's like you do one good thing and three bad things grow back pretty much exactly exactly exactly. I'm firmly I'm firmly on board with that with that assessment. So, back at the ranch so to speak.

[00:21:10] I know we finally get some good stuff. Now we get some good stuff so let me get back to my notes on that sake. After you know after was it a Jacob and J. I'm blanking on his name is Elizabeth's husband.

[00:21:29] Jake Jacob and Jake okay Jacob and Jake. I'm going to come back after after it into the, and this is after Kara and Elizabeth. We're talking fireside talking about things and then baking.

[00:21:43] Oh, I know this was actually a great scene. Yeah, yeah because Elizabeth was talking fireside just like she said writing a letter to dispense her it's like well but it's more like journaling because there's no guarantee he's going to

[00:21:53] be too tough to journal. Yeah, turn it too tough to journal. I mean basically that's what she's saying I'm too I'm too much of a I'm too much of a.

[00:22:02] I'm too tough to be journal and that's that's for the girls, so to speak I mean I say that all jokingly but it was really kind of interesting because we keep finding out more and more how much she's had to sacrifice.

[00:22:17] And she really, you know she keeps saying it but it's so true. When she was talking about Spencer her son. Well it's really not her son but I call her son and you know what it's at the point now you don't have to qualify anything you lady.

[00:22:32] You you you've earned you have earned everything I mean you've raised families. You may have not put them through you put them you know birth them but you have raised families. And I love that that she journals to him.

[00:22:48] Yeah and and I did like the the scene of them Elizabeth and Kara baking because it was like a nice little bonding moment for the two of them. Right.

[00:22:58] You know the only the only criticism and again I'm not really not trying to be Debbie Downer you wouldn't be having lemons in Montana in the winter. Yeah, I mean you know, again I'm not I'm totally not trying to be that guy.

[00:23:16] It's just it just kind of struck me like oh yeah that would have been nice wait a second. Yeah it's a middle of winter. They might not even have lemons in that state ever at that time but you know what it doesn't really matter.

[00:23:28] It was a fun scene. It shows the bond between a mother-in-law and her future daughter or daughter-in-law and you know cooking as you will know being a baker and a cooker. It brings people together you know who doesn't like a good meal.

[00:23:49] Yes and I think that you know it's kind of neat those those two relationships are are really interesting because I find that Jacob is and Kara are the older version of Jack and Elizabeth in certain ways and and it's just so neat how.

[00:24:13] You know I just know with my my wife when my mom got to you know not teacher because my my wife my wife can cook she can bake whatever but you know when she would like show her certain things there's like that bond.

[00:24:29] And I like I said I know you love your your big cooker you love to there's nothing you don't like to make when it comes to food and there's just something to be said about family and food and how that all works.

[00:24:42] And many a person is baked up a storm to try to get the take your mind off of things. And especially when you're in the middle of nowhere on the Yellowstone there's plenty of baking going on probably yeah.

[00:24:56] And then yeah and to kind of take their mind off of things about Jacob and Jack going up to to go get banner as well. Right because you don't know what you know what's gonna happen in that case.

[00:25:07] I mean she said it I'm just glad that I'm glad that you survived. Because it could have gone anyway they don't know. Yeah.

[00:25:15] And then we get a great dinner scene which mirrors the Yellowstone dinners because we had with with with a lot less controversy in the sense of nobody's throwing anything. Nobody's leaving the table or anything else.

[00:25:28] But this is a very interesting conversation because this conversation is as modern as any conversation ever. Talk politics to talk about news of the day. Right.

[00:25:40] Yeah and they talk about when they're when they see that Whitfield's going to be appointed like like a was it the head of the mind or deputy chair deputy chair of the mining corporation.

[00:25:54] And it says like and they're talking about that like well you know you're you know you talk and Jack asked Jacob was like well that's kind of the same thing with you being.

[00:26:05] The head of the livestock commission head of the livestock commission and also being a cattleman so it's like kind of self policing which is really does not the optics of that don't look good. Right.

[00:26:17] And you know what I think it was kind of interesting what Kara said about you know politics and the newspaper. I forget the actual line I think you probably have it.

[00:26:29] You know something along the lines of you know certain headlines are just headlines they're not actual facts and you have to you have to look beyond that. Right.

[00:26:41] But I what I did love about that whole scene was they were reading the paper and this is how they get their news and it just shows the different time that we're in. And that news was a day's old at that time too.

[00:26:54] And everybody sat around and talked about the issues of the day where we just don't do that now which is kind of a shame to well not as much but you know it's like not nearly as much.

[00:27:04] But I think it's good in different ways but I don't think family oriented talk like this just doesn't happen. As opposed to Twitter talk or Instagram talk or whatever either one yeah. But what I do like is that we have Jacob at the head of the table.

[00:27:20] Well yeah and just perfectly mirrors everything in Yellowstone too absolutely which I really liked. Oh no I mean you know if those walls could talk you know all day we've had we've had every every that's been important in that family sit where he sat. Yeah.

[00:27:41] And yeah and in the whole of the show right now at the very least from this point there's at least 100 years of history that we want to take a look at we've only seen like either tail end of it so far. Right. At least in that house.

[00:27:54] But what I did like about you know carrot like a carrot kind of making her statement and then kind of leaving the room and Jacob saying well she's not angry about it she's scared yeah. Anger about this political talk. Right now because she doesn't comment.

[00:28:07] She knows yeah she knows the full the full scope of what's going to happen and what's what looks like it's going to happen because it is huge. And this isn't our first rodeo.

[00:28:19] You know they've been through this before maybe not to this extent but there's always something at the Yellowstone you know it there's always something and we're learning a little bit more.

[00:28:29] They wanted to have kids they couldn't have them so they raised their their brothers kids and grandkids and all sorts of different things so it's it's it's an interesting dynamic. But yeah I mean I think that.

[00:28:52] That Jack had you know first off Jack's got to get a different pair of fluffy. Which McCall it. Chaps man. Can he not always wear those things.

[00:29:09] I mean every time you see him he's in those in those chaps he's got to like have at least some jeans or something man. He looks like a cartoon character.

[00:29:17] But I mean they're great they probably do what they got to do in real life but like the I need that show that he's a he's always riding his horse. That's kind of what they did back then I guess but still man. God.

[00:29:31] No you know we talked about that and. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to look through my notes. I guess the only thing that we have to talk about is your couple. Oh my favorite couple. So after the weirdest slash.

[00:29:54] Sexiest slash disturbing scene in all of 1923 they cut directly to Europe and where is your girlfriend at this point. She is on the bow of the boat and looking you know when they're in the Mediterranean got coming into port so.

[00:30:13] Yes she is and you know that conversation between the captain and Spencer was was so telling and you know Spencer is.

[00:30:24] Cool cat and I mean famous in what's that well because Spencer you know I call him Captain Benjen because if people don't know he's a guy who played Benjen Stark. Well yes that's true other or other Game of Thrones person here.

[00:30:40] At least currently now we're up to two. Yes. Say we learned from the captain of the ship that his exploits as a hunter have made him famous. Right.

[00:30:50] And but he and the captain knew who he was but even though he didn't tell him who he was is what he did for a living.

[00:30:56] I think I think that captain unfortunately if he had taken that boat to America nothing would happen he would make sure that nothing would have happened those two.

[00:31:08] Yeah I don't yeah but I don't know if he's like you know I don't know if he makes runs all the way to America.

[00:31:12] No I'm saying no but that's not what he does but I'm just saying like you know he he just he understands the the what what Spencer is doing. Mm hmm.

[00:31:24] And I love that little twist you know that you're the famous Spencer Dunton like I mean you know I'm not a lion but you know I thought that was just kind of cute and.

[00:31:37] It was it was a very nice conversation and I really like that because you know they're.

[00:31:43] You know he's very you know I want to say protective of them it's like you want to get you to where you're going you know at least part of the way where you're going safely. He wants to do his part and do his part yeah.

[00:31:55] And I think you know the English you're famous for doing their part. Then they finally get off the boat and another great Alex moment is their walking and I think you know the nice thing about where they're at is since they're closer to homeland for for Alex.

[00:32:15] She's feeling a lot more comfortable. Mm hmm. And you know she strutner stuff and Spencer. You know he's got he's got some great qualities but he's got a couple of flaws that are going to get himself in trouble with his wife. Yes.

[00:32:33] And he gives she gives him the zinger upon zinger so you know honey you know I don't mind walking next year but I'm not going to walk behind you. Mm hmm.

[00:32:42] And the best part of that whole thing is she zings him right back and she's like well that may be true but the views a lot better if you walk behind me. You know I mean I know I'm paraphrasing but I think you got it.

[00:32:58] Yeah I think you almost got it right. It's like you know the views like I don't think you wouldn't mind walking behind me because the views much better.

[00:33:04] I mean and you know what it's like if you like you wish you wish Spencer would like look at the camera like yeah she's right kind of like you like a fourth wall break there.

[00:33:13] Oh my God that would have been perfect but I just love that they understand the urgency. But at the same time they're trying to enjoy it and I love how Alex can read Spencer meaning the clue like she thinks that the lions were dangerous for Spencer. Mm hmm.

[00:33:45] And they are obviously but that's not what's that's not why he he's there for a reason he's trying to avoid his demons his demons are in Montana. His demons are on the Yellowstone.

[00:33:59] His demons are finding his father dead and his mother dying and whatever and it's just you know she might have her demons whatever they are obviously they're different than than what.

[00:34:15] The the Dutton's have had to deal with but the like I think she said the closer we get or the heart of the team the bigger the demons are going to be and it's so true I mean there's been movies about this coming home movies.

[00:34:31] Yeah you come home and then all of a sudden you got to relive all this stuff that you didn't want to relive and and it's it's hard especially since he's the head of the family. More or less.

[00:34:44] Yeah well co head I would say I'm just saying like he's the head of the boys. Yeah. And you know but I wish I could be as cool as he is in in in pressure situations man that's just that's great stuff.

[00:35:01] Yeah but he also has his demons from you know the battlefields in France too so. Well that I mean it just goes on because I mean you know he he he left for war.

[00:35:11] And he found out war isn't like it is in the movies or is it like it's in the books. Mm hmm. You know I mean at that point the red badge of courage wasn't even written it was being written.

[00:35:23] But if I'm not mistaken or if it was it was just out I'm just saying it was just right after World War One. That's my point it's like it's right at that time. Yeah there was no shell shocked that nobody had that term shelled shock until now.

[00:35:37] Mm hmm. You know there was no PD PDSD until now. So I mean it's all coming out. You know and we're still we're still almost 20 years or so from World War Two. Mm hmm.

[00:35:55] So I mean we've got we've got this little period of craziness and but you're right I mean I not that I forgot about it but but yeah he's got those demons as well. He's got he's got home demons he's got war demons.

[00:36:10] He's just he's a he's a mess.

[00:36:13] Yeah and then one of the things that I wanted to take just take a quick note is that when they're being dropped off by the skiff from the ship is that the the sailor that says you know notices you know he talks about his rifle saying you don't want to like you have that out in the open too much.

[00:36:29] Oh yeah. Is it because you know Mussolini won't like it and especially and then the mafia won't like it either and he's like who's the mafia. What's the mafia I know I was cracking up.

[00:36:40] But no what I don't understand and I'm not trying to be nippy again you saw them come off the boat. They have all this leather gear. When did they get was that always did they have that they had some they had some that they rescued off the boat.

[00:36:55] Okay I wasn't sure. Spencer got stuff. I knew they had some quote unquote luggage but I just didn't I knew the lucky rope and I knew she had some bags but it just looked like it was a lot.

[00:37:08] Yeah well and whatever they got from the ship as well you know whatever. So so we're do you think they're going to get to the Yellowstone by the end of the episode.

[00:37:21] They may get to like Galveston like that like the like he was advised to do they might get there. I don't know but I mean I guess my you know I'm sorry do you have any other do you have any other thoughts or points.

[00:37:37] Yeah we'll see again we kind of got lost in a little bit of a time time lag because I don't know how long it's been since they were dropping like. Exactly. No no no.

[00:37:48] To Cicely where they're at because they when we left them last time they were heading towards you know Suez the Port of Suez to go through the Suez canal and when we catch up with them they're on the Mediterranean hitting towards Cicely so a week maybe. Yeah.

[00:38:06] You don't know there's some time lag so we don't plus you know they're not running a clock on the screen either so we don't know exactly you know what happens when and so we'll have to like reconcile. We'll find a podcast that will tell us all that haha.

[00:38:19] Yeah we just know we just got to we'll get the clocks reconciled when they get to you know get to Montana then we'll find out so. No I mean I know there's been a lot of predictions that he's going to show up at the last scene.

[00:38:30] Okay he's here kind of thing. I mean I hope it's a little bit before that but since there's only one episode. Yeah I'm assuming that's either going to be it or or they're going to show them like right getting into Montana. Hopefully.

[00:38:46] But it would be nice to see Spencer. You know and Alex get to Montana. Yeah. Because I fear for I really do fear for Alex.

[00:39:03] I think she's I think there's a egg timer on her and you know you don't have very good luck with women there Jerry all your women that you love on TV or never can stick around. Never.

[00:39:20] But but let's get back to let's go ahead and finish this off with yeah sure because as they're walking you know. Towards you know towards they insist like well Alex says they she wants to get some food first and goes to a restaurant.

[00:39:35] And we find that you know when Spencer talks about you know when she says she's talking about Spencer echoing. Excuse me she's echoing Spencer statement about in the last episode like that all the trouble they found together is a warning that that he shouldn't have taken her.

[00:39:55] The episode closes you know after she's like feeding him the little fried rice ball episode comes to a close with someone calling Alex his name and done. It is her ex fiance. The one that she left.

[00:40:12] You know the last time he saw her is all you can see what's her back and the souls of her feet as she's running towards Spencer's car. I think that was a little stupid but you know whatever.

[00:40:26] I think that that's I think I have a couple of thoughts on it.

[00:40:32] I think that's the one thing that's going to be the most important thing is he's going to either help her help them get to America or it's going to be a stupid plotline that he's going to be a jerk.

[00:40:47] Yeah and my my guess is he's going to find somebody else. Oh I ended up poking up with your friend anyways we're better for each other and I'm hoping that's it but who knows you know I mean. Anyway so any other thoughts.

[00:41:05] Well next week's the finale so we got to see what's going to happen here I know and then we and then we have an unknown wait time until the second season. True I mean I think Rima is going to be joining us next week.

[00:41:18] And I'm pretty excited about that.

[00:41:22] I think that you know they've done a great job of development of characters and I think but like I said this violence is probably scratching the surface on what actually happened but I don't know what the line is between the violence and TV should be.

[00:41:48] I mean those priests get the get the crappy to have them and beat the crap out of people like I've never seen on TV before.

[00:42:00] Yeah so and one thing I would I would want to do is like when we do when I'd rewatch the season prior to the second season. Yeah yeah I'm going to do a body count so because I can think of at least 20 at this point.

[00:42:15] Well it's like a mafia movie. Bringing it all back to the mafia. But Jerry I think we put a nice little ice pack or instead of a bow on this a nice little ice pack on our wound called episode seven.

[00:42:37] You know I think we do have some feedback is that true. Yes we got one amount of feedback. You want me to read this. Yeah sure what the heck.

[00:42:45] Okay this is from our friend Steve Barre in he's writes the rich villain has violent sexual desires who could have predicted that twist with a rolling eye emoji. Oh I know thank you so much Steve because yeah that didn't it didn't come out of left field.

[00:43:01] It's just I don't know if we needed to see it. I'd rather see it in left field all the way over there. But that being that being said you know. That's our show. Thank you for listening. Are you I think you are you're watching Last of Us right.

[00:43:21] Correct. And what's your what's your your two second thoughts on on the show so far. I'm really liking it and you know I have the game downloaded I'm going to wait till the season's over to play it which is about another what about another month from now.

[00:43:37] Yeah yeah.

[00:43:38] So I do have it downloaded and I watched a little bit of the beginning kind of like what the the kind of the preface to the show up until the credits in the from the first episode and that's kind of like where I watched that on YouTube but I'm going to end up playing that.

[00:43:54] So we'll see how that you will see how all that ends up. It's great. I mean I'm doing the after show and I know we've got we got some people coming on every week and it every every time is a little bit different.

[00:44:05] So it's been so much fun not being a game player. It makes it kind of better and worse better because I don't know what to expect but worse because I don't know what to expect.

[00:44:19] I don't know who all the characters are who's you know just not knowing what's coming up. But I just think it's been great. I know Jason has been covering poker face and I think it's extraordinary playlist.

[00:44:38] I think it's great to see Greg and Penny you're doing and there's just a lot of good a lot of great TV that we're covering right now.

[00:44:48] So I just figured I'd throw that out there and you know that being said if if you like the podcast you can hit the subscribe button give us give us five stars. If you want to write a review or leave us a message.

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