24: “Long, Long Way from Home” & “Molé” (S5E1&2)

[00:00:00] Hmm? Ah! Oh... F***ing Skibble! We'll soon be opening Cobra Kai franchises throughout the entire valley. So every one of you young men and women here can be part of our championship dojo. This is what we're up against, Terry Silver.

[00:00:23] This is how everyone sees him as some kind of philanthropist out to save the kids of the valley. That's why you're here. I tried to stop Cobra Kai on my own. Nothing's worked. There's only one way to end this. We have to cut the head off the snake.

[00:00:38] Aye, Daniel-san. I can do that. Here! Hey, whoa! No, no, I didn't mean literally cut his head off. They're not for cutting. They're for blocking and stabbing and clawing and gouging. Okay, still, please. Put him away before a man to see something.

[00:01:00] What I meant was we need to expose Silver for who he really is. Then his students will see the light. The problem is, Silver may be crazy, but he's not dumb. He always thinks two moves ahead. We have to be careful with this guy. No, Daniel-san.

[00:01:16] He must be careful with this guy. Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast. I'm Jason. And I'm Richard. And I'm Reema. And this is Cobra Kai cast. That wasn't very good, huh? I thought it was good. You gotta be more Cobra Kai. Hey-ya, Daniel-san. There we go.

[00:01:49] This week we're covering Cobra Kai season five, episodes one and two, Long Way From Home and Mole. Or is it Mole? Mole. Mole. Oh yeah, look, there's a little tilde on it. Sauce. I didn't see any glasses on it. I didn't notice that either.

[00:02:07] I thought it was Mole. I don't even know why it's called that. I guess Miguel's father was making a mole maybe? A mole sauce or something? I don't know. Yeah, because I was like Mole because they planted a mole. Oh, I think that's a double meaning.

[00:02:24] That's what I wondered too, or thinking that Miguel was a mole or something. Yeah, kinda. Kind of being a cutitory of him. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah, maybe I put that accent over and it wasn't even supposed to be there. Oh, you saw. My accident.

[00:02:40] Mole is like, you know, that Mexican sauce. I think they put chocolate in it. It's good. We're back. Are you guys ready for Cobra Kai season five? Yeah, I've been looking forward to it. I know I haven't skipped ahead or nothing like that,

[00:02:56] but I've been reading that it's getting good reviews. I know. I'm so excited. Because it feels like more these days than usual after my first watch of something. I'm not sure I'm into it and then second watch, I like it a lot more.

[00:03:08] That happened with these two episodes. But after I watched the first episode, I was sort of like, I don't know, it's starting to feel kind of played out this whole thing. And then I went on to Rotten Tomatoes and I saw that it was 100%

[00:03:20] and I'm like, okay, okay, just stick with it. It's gonna be good. Right. Well, then you got all the trolls like this whole thing with the new Lord of the Ring show. You know, they're like troll saying, oh, it's not tokens.

[00:03:32] Not this is not that, but it's not that bad. Come on. It's awesome. Yeah, I think a lot of that is just that just people being jerks for no reason. Yeah. Well, they're all pissed off that she hoped worked.

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[00:05:38] I also thought before we got into it that we should do a quick recap of season four, not so much the whole season but just where we were at the end. So the season ended with the All Valley Karate tournament,

[00:05:53] which is kind of a staple of the series. In Cobra Kai we had one at the end of season one and then we had another one at the end of season four. Miguel left the tournament halfway through because he was injured

[00:06:05] and he also thought Johnny didn't really care about him. He kind of misinterpreted some things. And Eli beat Robbie. That was a pretty awesome fight. Terry Silver paid the ref who made bad calls that let Tori beat Sam in the final match,

[00:06:26] which put Cobra Kai over the edge to win the whole tournament. And now Terry Silver's opening a bunch of Cobra Kai dojos all around the valley. At the very end Daniel brought in Chozen to help him try to put it into Cobra Kai Chozen.

[00:06:42] His nemesis from Karate Kid 2. Yeah, that was like the last scene in the last episode. Yeah, he said we can't honor a deal with people who have no honor or something like that. I'm like, does that really make sense? Are you the one who's being disarrowed here?

[00:07:01] And then but also Robbie took this duke at Kenny under his wing and then Kenny turned into a little sociopath and bullied the hell out of Daniel's son Anthony. I don't know if they'll follow up on that this season,

[00:07:13] but Robbie felt bad about all that and realized he was on the wrong side and he and Johnny made up for the first time in this whole series, which was a really nice scene. We haven't seen any of that yet in the first two episodes. Kenny? Yeah.

[00:07:28] Oh wait, no we saw him in the dojo, right? Yeah, but barely, yeah. Yeah, but nothing behind it. And then Johnny found out that Miguel went off to Mexico to look for his real father and went after him and Silver, Terry Silver beat up Stingray

[00:07:47] and framed Kreese for it and had him arrested. Yeah. That was pretty messed up. That was pretty brutal. That was crazy. And I didn't really think about it after that too. I felt bad for Stingray. Yeah, I know. I did too and I don't even like him.

[00:08:07] So that brings us to Cobra Kai season five episodes one and two, long, long way from home and mole or mole. So what did you guys think of this one? Rima, what did you think of these two episodes? I was a little unimpressed with the premiere episode. Uh-oh.

[00:08:33] I feel like I'm going to be in the minority here and that's okay. Oftentimes as we're talking things through and I hear y'all's points and stuff, it will sometimes help turn it around for me, but I was just a little underwhelmed by the first episode.

[00:08:48] Second episode, not so much. It improved things for me, but I don't know. I was, it didn't, it didn't just, it didn't land for me. When it started, I was like, it just doesn't feel like the other Cobra Kai episodes just felt a little off to me.

[00:09:05] I'm not exactly sure why. I can't quite pinpoint it, but it just felt a little bit off. It felt more to me soap opera and less fun comedy. You know? I mean they usually have a good balance of that,

[00:09:17] but it leaned more on the plot and I mean, it's always pretty plot heavy, but it was less about fun moments and more about the drama, I guess. I mean, I don't know if that's why, but... It definitely wasn't as light.

[00:09:30] I felt it was like a more of a housekeeping episode. Like trying to get everybody up to speed with what this entire season is going to be like, you know? That's the first thing I thought when I heard, oh, what's Daniel's wife's name? Amanda. Yeah, and she's like,

[00:09:47] I thought we would be sipping Mai Tais by the pool, not watching your Okinawan assassin using this as your training ground. I was like, well, there we go. We have the plot of season five.

[00:09:56] I mean, you know, like I said, when I was finished with the first episode, I was like, uh-oh, this is the first time I'm really feeling like this might be kind of played out.

[00:10:07] But then I went looking on our Rot Tomatoes and I looked at the writers for this season and some of them wrote last season, but the showrunners aren't listed as writers for any of the episodes, which I was a little worried about.

[00:10:21] But then I saw that 100 percent and then I watched the second episode and I started to get a feel for the shape of the season and the themes. And then when I went back and watched the first, I liked it a lot more.

[00:10:30] So I'm really glad that we cover two episodes because the second episode helped me appreciate the first one more. That's a good point. No, I like them both. The second one was much more light-hearted, I think. Well, I mean, not light-hearted, you know?

[00:10:43] There's some pretty serious stuff going on, but, you know, I had more jokes and stuff like that. More fun, yeah, yeah. A couple of fights. Yeah. Some good fights. All right, let's get into our points.

[00:10:56] Oh, wait, for people who don't know, I don't know if there's anybody listening to us for the first time, but instead of just going through beat by beat about what happened and what we thought of it,

[00:11:06] we each come prepared with several points that we want to talk about. And it can be really deep long ones or just a short thing to comment on whatever we felt like.

[00:11:16] It just kind of feels like, to me, that's more interesting because you already saw the episode so you know what happened. And this is more like how it impacted us and what stood out to us.

[00:11:25] The kind of things that we would talk about if we all worked in an office together and were like, did you see Carbacry last night except a little more preparation put into it? So yeah. We hope. We hope. That's the idea. Yeah, that's the idea.

[00:11:41] Well, my first point, I'll just kind of show a little appreciation as far as I guess the pacing because they're at least so far from the first two episodes.

[00:11:52] I mean, I'm assuming they'll keep up with the same pace the rest of the season, but the first two episodes, I mean, they're not wasting any time from what I can tell. You know, chosen has already been found out.

[00:12:04] You know, like I thought, you know, when we saw him there at the end of the first episode and I was like, oh boy, here we go. I thought that would probably carry into like halfway or two or three.

[00:12:16] Yeah, like at least three more episodes that that would kind of play out. But nope by the second episode he's already kind of bummed actually. I wanted to see more of that. Me too.

[00:12:26] I guess I really that was fun for me to see him in the second episode, you know, kind of getting his way in there. Kind of using Terry Silver's own techniques, you know, and kind of warming his way in. Yeah, he was good at it.

[00:12:41] He was good at it. So it was fun to watch and he was really getting a kick out of it. It was fun to watch him.

[00:12:46] I wasn't sure if it would be because last season, I mean, it was pretty fun last season, but I think they have a real good take on his character right now. I agree. I agree.

[00:12:58] So yeah, I thought it was going to play out at least for a couple more episodes before he was exposed.

[00:13:03] I mean, I didn't think it was going to go a long time or the entire season, but I wasn't expecting it already in episode two for him to be found out and for Terry Silver to already kind of be on onto them.

[00:13:15] Tori didn't waste any time in confronting Terry Silver, you know, that she knew about the ref.

[00:13:22] So that's already out there and I'm sure, you know, be talked about or it's going to be a play apart as far as what her decision was into the rest of the season. And then we had the Mexico storyline with Miguel and that's done. Yeah.

[00:13:39] So I'm just like, OK, so some of these really big things are already kind of wrapped up here by the end of episode two. And I thought, dang, if they're, you know, this is kind of fast.

[00:13:51] I mean, Cobra Kai does have a fast, I think anyway, usually kind of a faster pace anyway. I mean, they only have like 10 episodes and they're short. They're typically what 30 to 40 maybe minutes long or so. They're usually pretty quick, sometimes shorter than that.

[00:14:06] But you know, they're usually fast paced. But I don't know. I was just expecting, I think for some of that to carry out a little bit. So I think it's good though. I mean, I don't like when they dwell on something too long.

[00:14:17] Better to be too short and leave us wanting more than to go on too long with something. Yeah, yeah. I think the only thing I would have really wanted to see is like we already said,

[00:14:26] to see chosen maybe a couple more episodes pretending to be the sensei or whatever. But other than that, I'm OK with it. So you know what I thought? I was a little worried at some point that either chosen was like a double agent against Daniel

[00:14:41] or at least Terry Silver was going to turn him against Daniel. You know, because they started talking about I have this one rival and he humiliated me and I'm like, it's the same rival as Terry's. Uh-oh. But that didn't happen.

[00:14:55] And I'm kind of like in this series, you know, people often are friends and then they're against each other. And so even though chosen and Daniel are friends right now, they could very well go against each other at some point. But I actually kind of hope not.

[00:15:08] I like it that they're a team. It's funny in a show about, you know, loyalty. There's not much of it. Or I mean a discipline, you know, like a discipline about loyalty. Yep. Yeah. Well, building upon that, I kind of felt the same way about the chosen thing.

[00:15:27] You know, I was watching it and both of you brought up some good points. I was like, I was nervous, dude. Like you said, Jason, you know, I was like, oh my God, he's going to turn to the dark. Because Daniel had this great introduction to Terry Silver

[00:15:40] and what a crazy Silver Tongued Fox that he is and how he can turn people, you know, and he's super manipulative and stuff. And I'm like, why are they setting it up like this? What's going to happen with it?

[00:15:49] Hey, you just said Silver Tongued Fox and just like a few minutes ago, I thought, oh, that's why they named the character Terry Silver. Terry Silver. Have you already thought of that? Silver Fox. Silver Tongued. I hadn't thought about that before. Yeah.

[00:16:03] I bet you that's why because that's what he is. He's a liar, you know. He's, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, he is, but he knows when not to do like he talked to her silver fox into coming back and he wasn't lying about any of that stuff.

[00:16:15] He's like, is it really cheating? Well, I would argue with that, but we'll get to it. But yeah, then so I was sweating bullets there a couple of times with with chosen.

[00:16:25] And then when he was found out at the end of the episode, I was like, oh no, we know the sweat increased a little bit. But then I also felt a sense of relief kind of because I was so nervous through a whole damn episode.

[00:16:36] I was like, he's going to turn to the dark side. So now I'm like, okay, thank God he's still loyal to Daniel. Yeah. I mean, he's like, you don't open any more dojos or mess with the LaRusso's or I'll make you what did he say?

[00:16:49] Like some real intense threat. Yeah. Don't cross the line or we'll come bite your head off or something like that. Oh yeah. You will beg for mercy. Yeah. It's like, dude. Yeah, that was intense. Damn. You can't do any of this stuff in the real world.

[00:17:02] They're going to get ass sued. I didn't feel that way about Miguel though. The Miguel drama that played out, that one, like you were saying, it was a little more soap operish and kind of went out as like he would expect.

[00:17:13] It seemed obvious to me at least because it's like, well, if he found his dad and liked him, he's just going to stay in Mexico. That's no fun. Yeah. The only question I had. Yeah. So they first, because he knew the guy's name was Hector Salazar and

[00:17:24] that his mom said he did bad things. So the first Hector Salazar he found was clearly a sketchy guy. And then the second one was kind of a nice guy. So I figured, OK, this can go one of two ways.

[00:17:33] Either he seems nice, but he's not going to be nice or he's not his dad either, which I thought that's what was going to happen. But it turned out it was the first one. So that's what made it kind of interesting to me.

[00:17:45] Like when's he going to reveal whatever the twist is here? Yeah, it was pretty obvious. They really played it up like when he saw Hector or the second Hector out by the trash can, you know? Like there he is. He's like super handsome.

[00:17:58] Some guy telling him he's too nice. Although it was missing was the clouds parting and a beam of light shining on him. Hello over his head. Dad. Well, it was like every time he heard someone, Hector, he's like, Daddy? How many Hector Salazar's other than Mexico?

[00:18:18] I'm guessing about five million. That's like a Bob Jones here in the East. Yeah, seriously. Anything else, Rich? Um, ba-ba-ba-ba. I thought it was funny at the end there when Terry Silver had him found out and he brought in the senseis and he's like,

[00:18:38] Yo, triple your pay if you take this guy out and then chosen kicks all of their asses. Yeah, hardcore. Like a badass. He wasn't pulling punches or nothing. And then at the end they do that close up on Terry Silver's face.

[00:18:50] I got a chuckle because I was thinking, he was thinking, God damn it. Now I've got to get another seven more senseis. I thought Terry would have fought him right then, but it's only episode two, so they got to say that.

[00:19:03] But yeah, I think he like threw one guy into another guy's fist and then my favorite was, I mean, yeah, he's being really brutal and then I think he was looking at the last guy who was standing.

[00:19:15] You know, you got to keep your eyes on him because he's your enemy. And then one of the other guys was sort of writhing around and moaning and without looking just kind of kicked him another time. Boom, he keeps them down.

[00:19:25] With that ending, that really solidified it for me. I'm like, all right, chosen's on our side. Cool. Yeah, I feel good about that too. It would have been another interesting plot development if he'd been against him, but I like it better this way.

[00:19:39] Well, I mean, we're only two episodes in. I think it would be interesting to have a twist of maybe chosen, you know, does kind of flip. He might. Yeah, well, yeah, you're right. I mean, nothing's impossible in this show.

[00:19:57] Because they kept like kidding on that theme of things aren't always what they seem and yeah, and honor and how he struggled with that in his life and he seems like he's gotten through those issues, but you never know. Yeah, talking about how everyone used to be weak.

[00:20:12] Yeah. Well, honors, honor is my first point, which, you know, we always say karate kid and Cobra Kai are about the importance of good role models and teachers and parental figures. No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher.

[00:20:31] And honor is the thing that the good teachers model and pass on. And that's honesty, integrity, faithfulness, good character, things like that. Cobra Kai, of course, is the opposite of all that, deceit, cheating, aggression, no mercy. No cops, no lawyers. Right.

[00:20:51] And so I was really happy for how the season started because last season Daniel and Chris made a deal that whoever lost the tournament would lose their dojo. Was Johnny part of that too? He was. Yeah, well, I mean, weren't they working together?

[00:21:08] Yeah, but they had two dojos at that point. So I don't know. I was assuming they were. Yeah, anyway. So Miyagi lost as far as Daniel knows fairly. And he said at the end of the episode, now I'm supposed to give

[00:21:23] up my dojo and step down as a sensei, but there's too much at stake to honor an agreement made with men who have none. And I'm like, dude, that's some twisted logic there. Yeah. And then he says he's going on offense and we see Chosen is there.

[00:21:41] Will you help me finally putting in to Cobra Kai? So we don't really know what he has in mind, but it seemed like the idea was, you know, he said he's not going to honor the agreement. So he's going to keep his dojo open.

[00:21:50] And he wants Chosen there to help him train his kids. But I'm really glad they didn't go that route at least so far because it would have been repetitive. Yeah. Just had that same plot with Johnny that season. Also, after all the injuries and near deaths of

[00:22:06] these kids, it would have been pretty irresponsible. Yeah. He probably would have lost Amanda too. She's getting pretty stressed. That's right. Yeah, she's better. They might have gotten a divorce at this point. And also it would have been dishonorable for Daniel to

[00:22:20] go back on the deal without knowing Cobra Kai cheated. And I kind of wonder if the writers, it feels like maybe that was the writer's intention or, you know, they probably didn't know exactly what they were going to do or something.

[00:22:34] But then they thought all this through when it came to him to write this season and decided to do something different to make the season about honor. And even Daniel at the beginning of this episode, it seems like this is what he has in mind that he's

[00:22:46] going to have chosen to help him train the kids. But Amanda's pissed. Yeah. And he's like, I don't blame her. Yeah, this was all going to be over. Kind of rightly so. I mean, he keeps putting his family in danger.

[00:23:01] It's like he's training gangs to fight each other too. That's right. That's a West Side story. So but then Daniel calls the kids back and it seems like he's going to give them a pep talk, but he ends Miyagi-Do expectation subverted. So that was that was good.

[00:23:16] I like that. And he lived up to the deal too. And he did the honorable thing. And but then I'm like, OK, so what's he going to do with chosen? And he doesn't know either going undercover is chosen's idea. He says to catch a serpent, you must think

[00:23:32] like serpent. Oops. By the way, another reason why I like that chosen's here is because he speaks in kind of broken English like Miyagi and it reminds me of me. Yeah, like his uncle too. Yeah, that's right. So the basic idea that Daniel had was I'm going

[00:23:53] to expose Silver for who he really is. Then his students will see the light. And that just seems like a throwaway line, but it goes deep because if you saw Karate Kid 3, you know that Daniel got taken in by Silver. He didn't know who he really was.

[00:24:09] And then and he pretended to be this cool guy, but when Daniel finally realized who he was, he left him. And that was the whole story and chosen's on the same wavelength. He says we will find his weaknesses will push into his limit.

[00:24:23] We will reveal his true colors. So that's their plan to get him to show right the world what kind of a person he really is. And I hope they succeed in that like that moment when he mentioned where he said, oh, shoot.

[00:24:36] What did he say when he had all his senseis? He goes, oh, pay triple. There was a little bit of the Karate Kid 3 Terry Silver in that line. Pay triple! Manic. You know. He's got to bring it out just a little bit. It's Terry Silver.

[00:24:50] We've got to have just a little piece of it. What I'm hoping is by the end of the season they just push him to his limit and he's just explodes full Terry Silver. Back on Coke and just... Yeah, exactly. He's got Karate Kid 3 Silver back. Yeah.

[00:25:05] Got them crazy guys. So this is my really long point. Sorry, guys. Goes on a bit. But Chosin sees Terry Silver do basically like a side kick and a punch to the ribs and he's all, I know that style of, I know his teacher. It's Kim Sun Young.

[00:25:22] And so then we get the history of Kim Sun Young who had his own controversial style of Karate. He was a body and taught American soldiers and Satoh knew him. But he taught after Miyagi went into the army for World War II so he didn't know him.

[00:25:42] And Chosin demonstrates his... By taking Daniel by surprise he starts to bow and they just punches him in the throat and throws him on the... Yeah. And it's like, he says Kim Sun Young's attacks were based on deception, no honor and no mercy.

[00:26:00] And that's what Silver's all about too. And so if it's all about the teachers, we're just going one level back to see where this Karate... I mean, Cobra Kai ethos comes from. Daniel's like, you could have just told me. Yeah. Right. I know, that's funny.

[00:26:18] And so then the whole scene with Tori really illustrates this. Does anyone have that as their point, Tori? Me. Okay. I guess I'll hold off on it because I have a lot of details on it but I don't want to steal everyone's thunder on all this stuff.

[00:26:39] But I'll just say that I really think Tori and Chosin are similar and Chosin senses that she's troubled and they both have a chip on their shoulder or he used to. If you watch Karate Kid 2 you'll see that he was quick to anger and thought,

[00:26:57] if anybody wronged him then they were besmirching his honor and all this stuff. And so I think that's why he was so tuned in on her because he feels like she's similar to how he was when he was younger. Interesting. And that's all about honor too

[00:27:16] because she feels dishonor about having lost or won the tournament but it was dishonorable. And I will say if when because you mentioned it Rich, when Terry Silver said if a person steals food to survive are they cheating or are they doing what must be done?

[00:27:33] And I say well they're doing both but a person's life is more important than a karate business so that's more justified. Also especially since it was a competition for the survival of two karate businesses and it had to be one or the other. But Tori buys into it

[00:27:47] because he's good at what he does. And then the other thing about honor is that it was so funny to just stick in there that Robbie cheats at the pepper eating contest and Johnny's that's the most badass thing I've ever seen.

[00:28:02] That shows where he's been focused on honor too but he's not quite on the same wavelength there. And then the last part of this is Terry Silver's ultimate goal or at least what he says because who knows is to make Cobra Kai the Starbucks of karate

[00:28:19] and he has a secret plan to make it happen which is interesting. But I love that the stakes just got a lot bigger on this show because if no such thing as a bad student only bad teacher and Terry Silver wants to spread these dishonorable teachings

[00:28:35] to kids all over the world, spread dishonor everywhere. And that's a good way to leverage the themes of this what started off as a simple story about his high school kid into something much bigger and Daniel hates that. Yeah. So pretty interesting.

[00:28:50] Yeah, that's a good summary because I was still struggling a little bit with when Daniel was like we got to stop him. You know, this is crazy. I'm like why he's the CEO of a company what CEO doesn't want to spread their product and brand across the world.

[00:29:04] He always just doing what he needs to do but you know this product is bad I think for society so it really boils down to. I mean it's everything Daniel stands against. Yeah. You know, he was taught no such thing as bad student

[00:29:18] only bad teacher and it's like this is the worst teacher that's going to teach the whole world bad things. So Rima you're up. Well, that was actually my next point was mostly chosen how because I thought it was interesting that he did choose to work with Tori.

[00:29:38] I don't know if he did just recognize something in her because he can't possibly know about what Terry Silver did at the tournament and knowing that he had paid off the ref or anything. So I don't think that he knows any of that information

[00:29:54] but clearly he did recognize something in Tori and decided to work with her and I agree with what you said that he does recognize something similar in her because yeah, when you said that I was like okay yeah, you're right

[00:30:08] they were very similar like when we saw him in Cridicate too but I thought it was interesting. You know, we got this flashback of chosen as a young boy training with Sato his uncle. I guess he was training some American soldiers.

[00:30:22] Is that what you guys got out of that? There were some non Asians there right? Because he mentioned army. He's like it's not just army training or something. Yeah. I had made I was making the assumption that maybe he was working with American soldiers or something.

[00:30:38] I was confused because they had mentioned that this guy's son young or Kim son young son young yeah had trained American soldiers and I thought okay we're going to get to see like the guy behind

[00:30:50] the idea of Cobra Kai or something like that at the root of it and then they show this guy who I thought was him but it's got to be Sato right because he called him uncle and he didn't Kim young son young didn't teach chosen.

[00:31:04] The caption said Sato so I want to say. Yeah, I think you're right. But I was confused at first until he called him uncle and then like yeah yeah I wasn't sure at first either until they said that

[00:31:18] but I did like the moment with chosen and Tori and their conversation and I did think that it was interesting that after all of this conversation about honor and like cheating and making things easy then we get that scene with Robbie cheating with peppers.

[00:31:34] So I was like well there we go that's going to be a little bit of a theme if not for the rest of season then at least for these episodes but I think it'll play a big part going into the rest of season

[00:31:45] seeing where Tori ended up with her decision and if she still sits well with that. Yeah, a lot of setup there huh? I wonder how she's going to go now. She's going to be friends with Samantha because Samantha was obsessing over her losing.

[00:32:02] She was in there practicing, practicing, practicing. She was obsessing over losing that match. I look like she was trying to recreate and figure out what maybe she where she went wrong or something when really maybe she's over analyzing and obsessing for no reason because Tori

[00:32:18] I think Teri is like you did win that match and I think Tori did get good points on Sam. I mean I remember watch I didn't go back and rewatch before this or anything

[00:32:27] but I remember watching at the time I was like well she did get some points in on her. Tori is a good fighter and very skilled but I do think that there was one point that she didn't earn. Yeah, because of the call from the ref.

[00:32:41] Right, right so you know I think that she's obsessing needlessly now she doesn't know that of course but you know because she did win unfairly so yeah she's going down a rabbit hole there.

[00:32:56] Yeah, she was unhappy at the end of last season when she found out that Teri cheated for her she wasn't happy about that but speaking of Samantha you know when Daniel said to all the Miyagi Doh kids we got a first-place trophy thanks to Eli

[00:33:17] you know congratulations everybody claps but as far as the rest of the tournament it just didn't go our way and Samantha is looking really upset right and I'm just like well you could say we put out an amazing effort and we were one point away from winning

[00:33:32] and you know they knew them you could even say the ref made a bad call and it could have gone either way or something but it's like yeah we fucked that up. Yeah we sucked so we're gonna close. See you later. Nice job guys.

[00:33:48] We had to close Miyagi Doh because of you. Yeah none of the students seemed very happy did they? They were just like whatever dude. It's unfortunate I think it's gonna come out you know Teri when he was talking to

[00:34:01] to Tori he's like you know you didn't tell anyone did you and she's like no but I'm like I bet it's gonna come out I bet I bet they're gonna somehow and maybe that's what it is that you know when Daniel and Chosen are

[00:34:15] talking about exposing him for the world to see if that's what's going to you know if Tori either comes out or even the ref I mean the ref could come out and say hey yeah he paid me off or whatever you know but you know.

[00:34:28] So you did your point on Tori so I'll say what I was gonna say which is you know she asked him why he's a sensei and he says honor I thought I had lost my honor eventually I understood no one can take honor from you

[00:34:42] you can take honor from yourself and so it just reminded me how he was so quick to anger and vindictive and brutal and cheating and she's been like that too and he was defrauding villagers I think he was selling food for higher

[00:34:58] prices but using fake weights to make it seem like they weighed more something like that. Oh yeah. Daniel broke one and exposed him and the villagers were all pissed and then Chosen accused Daniel of insulting his honor

[00:35:11] and you know later in this episode Chosen says I thought shortcuts cheating would get me through faster make my life easier my cowardice was exposed for all to see he didn't say by you but that's what happened and but you know Chosen

[00:35:27] seems to have gone another way him and Silver were both deceitful and dishonorable but Chosen learned from his mistakes apparently Terry Silver just doubled down but then Chosen says to Tori if you want to break free of troubles you

[00:35:38] must face them directly and so that's when she goes right to Silver that's her trouble she's upset about this whole cheating thing and then so she confronts him and he she thinks she didn't earn this because he bribed the judge

[00:35:52] but then he convinces her that she did win and that was just an insurance policy and all this stuff. Right Silver tongue Fox. Yep. You know Chosen also said that his father passed away and Terry was like what

[00:36:08] happened he's like or what killed him he said cowardice. Yeah his dad has had something going on with his dad too that might be an interesting story. I mean you guys are pointing out something I didn't consider that much

[00:36:19] was just they just kept broadening up and brought it up bringing up how he was a coward when he was younger and yeah that's the scene where that girl who became this woman who ended up helping Daniel with his business

[00:36:36] last season. Oh yeah. She was on top of that bell tower in this lightning storm and Satou told Chosen to go up and get her and he said I'm afraid and he walked away in shame and Satou disowned him which is why he then tried to

[00:36:49] kill Daniel at the end of that but then Daniel went up and did it and you know if you see him earlier in this episode where his teachers yelling at him saying you're gonna be a coward and it's like well sometimes when

[00:37:01] you're a parent like that you're you create the self-fulfilling prophecy don't give the poor kid a complex around being a coward and then he grows up to be a coward and also a bully just like you were to him. Yeah because

[00:37:15] you didn't want him to be but why are they focusing on all that with him if he has really gotten past it that does sort of make me suspicious. Maybe nervous. That maybe even though it seemed at the end of this that he

[00:37:28] had he was squarely on Daniel's side maybe not maybe he'll break down a little bit around the whole cowardice thing or something. I mean I feel okay right now because he beat up all those senseis and threatened them you know

[00:37:41] line is here like what do they say? They kind of said okay you're gonna stop your expansion you're gonna stop hiring senseis and you're gonna leave the LaRusso family alone I mean that's that's pretty heavy duty

[00:37:53] I don't think Terry's gonna do any of that. So far he has not been cowardly at all he walked right into the belly of the beast right fought all those senseis chosen I mean. Alright Rich. Well we talked to you guys brought up the chili

[00:38:09] pepper funny enough that's one of my points it's kind of silly you know the bit about chili pepper. But I was enjoying it first of all Robbie gives a shout out to the Hot Ones show on YouTube and I was like no way

[00:38:23] totally watch that show. Totally. That's one of my favorite shows yeah. I bet you that's why this that was even in this because that's so popular. Yeah it is a popular show. So I was like cool and then and then he wins

[00:38:34] the competition which was super corny and I think I think it gave us all a master class on how hard it is to fake eating a really hot pepper. Yes all my word yeah. I didn't seem to do too well you know just

[00:38:49] spritz some water on your face and act like you're in pain but then he keeps the hottest one right so he's like he's like seeing that he's you know they're gonna have to eat some more of this so he's like I'm gonna give me your hottest

[00:39:00] pepper and the guy's like oh so they give him this pepper because it's like El Dragon. The dragon pepper. And then he eats it while he fakes eating it and everything and all that fun stuff but then afterwards he's literally carrying

[00:39:16] the pepper around just carrying around in his pocket like it's no big deal. Yeah don't touch your eyes Robbie don't touch your eyes after that. That was dumb he just picks it up out of his pocket I'm like oh my gosh you

[00:39:27] just made a huge mistake. We had this hot sauce that we discovered when we were younger Dave's Insanity where just one drop is super duper high it's really concentrated and I used to have that in my fridge when I was in Boston and I had

[00:39:39] like three roommates and one of them was a mooch so the best instant karma was when he mooched my hot sauce and then he went to the bathroom and burned his penis. Ouch. Yeah I got from the hot one show I got the Apollo you know

[00:39:57] the one they used for the last dab that stuff's pretty hot too I like to take I like to take okay don't judge me I like spam I take spam and I rub this hot

[00:40:06] ones hot sauce on it and then I cook it and while it's cooking I mean you're sitting there ballin because the fumes just coming up in your eyes and your nose and it gets in your ears and you're just like oh this is gonna be great.

[00:40:17] It sounds so great. Oh my gosh does it cook it down a little like if you if you're cooking it does it take some of the heat out no okay. No not really it makes it even hotter I think because now it's hot literally hot hot sauce.

[00:40:31] Geez. I'll eat spam every once in a while. Yeah it's great man try it spam with hot sauce on it cook it up with some scrambled eggs and some sourdough toast. Oh I'm set. Well but then so we find out it is so following this hot

[00:40:46] chili pepper that he's just carrying it around like look what I got dad and then I'm like you can't do that but then of course we find out why because he gives it to Johnny while he's fighting that huge MMA dude. Oh yeah.

[00:40:58] He rubs it in the guy's eyes and he's like ahhh. But of course that would never happen to the hero so it was a nice and tidy little arc there with a little chili pepper story I thought it was super corny and silly but for some

[00:41:10] reason it stuck out and I was going it. It was funny because the guy whoever he was that came out with that dragon pepper brought it out in this glass like little mason jar and his hands were like shaking he's

[00:41:21] holding it like it's going to like a nuclear bomb or something he's like oh gosh can I help this pepper? Like it's gonna jump out and eat him or something huh?

[00:41:28] I know I was like jeez. And you're right it was nice and tidy how it came back in later and same with the it was kind of sign Felde and how little elements just come up throughout the episode with the whole female body inspector

[00:41:40] shirts that ended up making them think of it from the FBI. I haven't seen one of those since I was like a teenager. It's so funny. That was so I mean as soon as they walked into that club and it said FBI I was like oh no.

[00:41:53] You know for me I didn't even notice at that point and then the guy Hector Skye is like there's two gringos I think they might be from the FBI and I was like why the hell would you think that? And then I only have a female

[00:42:05] body inspector I forgot. And it's so dumb because if and they can't I mean what they said in the show was right the FBI has zero jurisdiction in Mexico and that would not happen but if they were do you think they'd really be wearing

[00:42:21] shirts that said FBI? That's a good point yeah. Like what kind of criminals are you that you don't even like... You might be a little nervous about it. Maybe but they're just I'm like aren't you I don't know maybe they're

[00:42:35] just dumb criminals but I'm like do you actually think the FBI is going to walk in here with FBI shirts on and did you not look at the back of it like did no one see the back? No one saw the back.

[00:42:45] I think if Johnny was an FBI he would actually wear an FBI. I think Johnny yes. If Johnny wanted to he would he'd be the total like just... Like light up shirt. But he'd have the baseball cap and the shades on too.

[00:42:59] He'd have the glasses, he'd have the whole thing, he'd have a mustache. So while we're since you're talking about peppers I started I should have looked this up a long time ago considering how much hot sauce I eat

[00:43:11] but I started wondering if eating hot peppers can actually hurt you and I read for all their health benefits eating hot chilies may cause a bit of discomfort this can include swelling, nausea, vomiting, eye pain, diarrhea, abdominal pain,

[00:43:23] heartburn, remastered reflux and headaches. But these feelings we get are simply from our body's response not anything that chili is doing to actually burn us as such many of the side effects we notice when eating hot chili such as

[00:43:35] sweating and pain are the result of the body considering stimulus to be a real burn our body senses capsicum the major active compound in chilies and immediately responds to it but there's no physical damage occurring to the cells

[00:43:47] capsicum is tricking the body into thinking it's experiencing a real burn another site said spicy food can exacerbate symptoms like heartburn or discomfort for people who already have an underlying problem that causes indigestion like acid reflux but you know or if you have like all sort of

[00:44:08] colitis or Crohn's disease I just don't want to give off the impression that it can't cause any harm but the main thing I got is it just kind of tricks your body into thinking it's getting burned and they speculate that some like the

[00:44:21] peppers evolved that way to keep predators from eating them or something right that makes sense so it could be a real mind over matter thing that your body is just tricking you know it could be like a real you know mind

[00:44:33] over matter that this is just my body messing with me and maybe you really could tolerate yeah as much as I can tolerate it I don't put a lot on so that I you know I'm not like say this masochist or anything like that I just

[00:44:46] like the taste so I try to get as much as I can handle without like going overboard so I can still taste it I enjoy spicy things from time to time and I don't know what was in it we we still live in El Paso Texas years

[00:45:02] and years and years ago and there was a really great restaurant we went to and we were new there went to this restaurant heard it was great and you know they brought out the chips and salsa and we start eating it

[00:45:14] while waiting for our food and wow are we just immediately we're like crying burning but it tasted so good we kept shoveling it in and we were just like oh my gosh you know wait till this waiter comes back we're going to

[00:45:27] he must have given us the hot by accident or something so we asked him we were like can we get the mild maybe this is a little bit more than what we thought it was going to be and he laughed and he said that is that is

[00:45:37] the mild that is the mild but we couldn't stop eating it it was the best thing ever I'm like I don't know why I feel like I'm torturing myself you know I was we were all just in tears but we couldn't stop eating it was so good

[00:45:48] so I do enjoy hot stuff every now and again but I don't know about that that Apollo sauce you're talking about I'll let you have that right. It's going to last a couple years. I've had this one bottle for I think 10 years of hot sauce that's how

[00:46:06] concentrated it is I use it every once in a while. I'm not at y'all's level that's for sure. Anything else rich on that? No it was good. Okay I have a shorter one. Silver susses out chosen so

[00:46:21] silver seems suspicious of chosen from the start he gathers all these potential senseis together to sort of see if he can hire them and pay them twice and I think he stole them from all the dozos around town because they're still

[00:46:34] wearing their geese with their dojo names on the back. And chose on lies and says he's from Kyoto but he's from Okinawa which is a whole different part of Japan it's an island. And he tries to suss him out by mentioning this shrine and chosen

[00:46:50] recommends a better shrine so I guess he knows Kyoto enough to do that. But I think he's at the same time suspicious and also thinking he sees something special in him maybe he can actually be a huge help

[00:47:05] maybe that's why he's being extra careful too because he's considering it from the start oh maybe this guy could be my second in command but I gotta make sure he's on the level or something like that you know.

[00:47:15] So yeah then he offers him to be his right hand man. I'm like you don't know enough about him to offer that. One day at the dojo but anyway okay fine and then it was right after that when they made the toast that chosen revealed himself and then

[00:47:33] cut to the end where he gets to the dojo for his job and he's the one there and he says he noticed he's an Okinawan phrase Kari instead of Kampai as anyone from Kyoto would say when making a toast.

[00:47:48] And I'm like well that's weird because in Karate Kid when Daniel went over to Mr. Miyagi's and he was all drunk and mourning his wife who'd passed on her birthday she'd passed on her birthday it was her birthday

[00:48:00] and she passed before he was drinking whiskey he poured Daniel glass on it and Miyagi said Kampai. Oh really? Yeah so Miyagi's a liar. That was a tell. It is weird because it's weird they would include this detail you know

[00:48:17] when they're so keyed in on the details from these movies I don't I don't know that's so weird. Also I'm not sure. You gotta write in on that one. Yeah I need to talk to somebody. Yeah that was an intern. Intern! That's a problem here.

[00:48:33] They need to go back to George Lucas Karate Kid and have him say Kari but I'm also not sure how Terry Silver made the jump from oh this guy lied about where he's from to your chosen.

[00:48:46] Thank you that's my question I'm like okay it's fine if you have your suspicions that you're not really from Kyoto based on how you toasted but how the hell does he know he's chosen? I know right and that's also not conclusive evidence by the way

[00:49:00] maybe he spent some time in Kyoto and you're gonna have your sense to speed him up because he gave the wrong toast but okay it's just like thinking too hard about this. It was a little bit of a stretch.

[00:49:10] Like you said they gotta move fast man gotta move fast. Yep that's all I had for that one. You're turning me over. Oh yes thank you. Kampai. Speaking of Kari. That glass looks just like it does from the show. I know that's when you do it.

[00:49:29] Well you brought up a great point talking about how they really go into details you know we know from covering this show for so long since beginning that these guys are really into the details like they you think about these small things that you just

[00:49:46] totally forgot about and they have a way to bring them up and my point it's a short one and it kind of brought me back to thinking a little bit about Better Call Saul because that is

[00:49:56] a spinoff of a show based on a throwaway line from Breaking Bad and this season seems to be at least inspired by a throwaway line from Cry2Kid 3 and that was when Terry Silver mentioned his former sensei Kim Sun Young.

[00:50:14] Which we thought was a lie just like Daniel did. I thought that was some mumbo jumbo. Yeah which yeah because he's completely boisterous and you know but it sounds like this dude actually did exist and chosen knows who he is and what he's known for.

[00:50:31] But I thought that was kind of cool was that that was something that the show runners you know pulled out of the details from Cry2Kid 3 and I don't know if we're going to hear anymore about him or if he'll I don't know what

[00:50:47] happened to him he could be dead I mean I'm guessing if he was around when you know Soto and Miyagi and stuff he's probably not still around but he's at least someone that has inspired this season it seems like so I think it's really interesting

[00:51:03] that they pulled this little detail out of you know I didn't remember that at all I mean when they showed the little flashback I was like oh okay but I would have never remembered that line at all if they hadn't shown that flashback

[00:51:16] so I thought it was really interesting that they're so into the details that they built or at least started the theme of this season on a little throwaway line. And that would mean that wouldn't that mean that it's also Kreese's teacher? Yeah and they suggested that.

[00:51:35] Yeah Daniel or chosen was saying that he taught American soldiers Kim Sung and I think Daniel said something about Kreese and Terry so I think that is the implication that he taught them. You guys think we'll see Kreese? Yeah. I think so I bet. I do.

[00:51:57] Is there a reason that he went to jail I mean like a real life reason was Kreese like leaving the show or something. He has a podcast about the show. Oh. It's our competition. But as far as the details like for me being so well versed in

[00:52:17] every little detail about that first movie and pretty well in the other two I feel it in every scene. I know I can tell that they are just pouring through the scripts of those movies looking for how to expand on these

[00:52:31] themes or twist them or whatever you know which is why we get to it my whole callbacks and references section. There's always a ton of stuff to talk about. Making you work overtime on this show. Yeah seriously. For sure.

[00:52:49] Well my final point is I like that it's been mostly adult themed up to this point you know these first two episodes I mean taking a break from the teen drama you know what I mean my saying this right I mean Miguel fighting out his

[00:53:04] dad is a dick. It's not about who's dating. That really counts as teen drama it seems like that's just mimicking really shitty real life drama honestly. Yeah. Well teen drama is real too sort of but yeah it's not like

[00:53:18] real to them high school who's dating who and stuff like that. Yeah yeah that's what I meant you know fighting by the pool and all that stuff. But we also have Robbie and Johnny doing some father son bonding so I mean you know Robbie's in there

[00:53:30] but it's not really teen drama it's father and son bonding which I kind of enjoyed it and then the prospect of Miguel and Robbie patching things up that's pretty exciting too. Yeah it's interesting how because this show is about people not getting along but they often because

[00:53:44] it's also not black and white people might come around and start getting along and it feels good you know when that tension is resolved. I say it's exciting because I don't know if that could ever happen I mean. It happens.

[00:53:57] I mean Robbie and Miguel because it's like I mean I guess they could become longtime friends then have that conversation like 20 years down the road hey remember the time you broke my back. Yeah those were great times. Well Dan Watman who has guested on this podcast a

[00:54:13] couple of times we were mortal enemies in fourth grade he and I I don't know if that counts but. Teen drama preteen drama because he was a little shithead. He's not here to defend himself. I want to hear the other side of the story.

[00:54:30] By his own imagination he was pretty. It was all about the karate too we'll take one to threaten to kick my ass because I wouldn't let him play this game I was playing on the black top. I think that would be pretty cool see Miguel

[00:54:46] and Robbie patch things up I don't know I don't see it really happening but I like the prospect that it could happen. Me too. So that was nice surprise. I agree. Yeah I hope it happens. And then we didn't see much of Daniel these

[00:54:59] two episodes hopefully he's chilling with his wife by the pool drinking my ties. He better make the wife happy I'm telling you that dude has been you know skirting on the edge there for several seasons. That was good to see too. Yeah them just having a drink together

[00:55:15] and him not worrying about all this stuff for a bit. Yeah but I think that's not going to last because now Jordan's going to come with his head slung low. We failed Daniel. Alright well let's get plan B going. He's like well I'm no longer under

[00:55:32] cover but I have threatened his life so yeah let's see what happens. He probably come after us now. Better move new state. Did you think Amanda's reaction was a little over the top when. No I don't think so. Well she's about seeing a naked man

[00:55:51] about seeing him naked and then she's calling him an Okinawan assassin. I mean that seemed a little. Yeah she's happy to hear with all this. She's pissed. Yeah I get why I get why she's angry because yeah it's been a lot there's kids are getting hurt.

[00:56:05] Yeah oh yeah I'm not saying she doesn't have reason to be mad in general but I was just like I feel like she's just going a little over the top maybe she was just mad in general and taking it out on the fact that you know she's

[00:56:15] got a naked man in her pool and. She said this is not OK. When I saw that I wrote in my notes. Tee he chose and is naked. Yeah it was funny and then when he chose and says we have to cut the head off

[00:56:33] the snake or no Daniel says that we have to cut the head off the snake and chose and pulls out a pair of those size which are those like three prongs and he goes whoa I didn't mean literally and he goes they're not

[00:56:44] for cutting there for blocking and stabbing and clawing and gouging and he goes still please put him away before a man to seize them. Yeah. Talk about snake has we don't want the dragon head coming in. So funny. That's why I like his character. He's funny. Yeah.

[00:57:04] In a different way. The other guys straight man. Kind of funny sometimes. All right is it my turn are you. Yeah go ahead. Okay. So Johnny and Robbie so Johnny brings Robbie down to Mexico to help him find Miguel and I think genuinely for some father or son

[00:57:24] time he could have just left him at home but it was dumb of him not to tell him that they were there to get Miguel he should have said look I'm glad that we made up I want to spend more time with you

[00:57:34] I also failed Miguel which I mean he's showing more clarity right now about all that stuff than he ever has and it's admirable and he's very forthright about it I want to I don't I have this regret I don't want to live with this regret

[00:57:46] I want to fix it and he could have said that at home though and not drag him down to Mexico because he did he said that to him and then he decided to stay anyways right yeah and it all worked out in the

[00:57:56] end but he wasn't happy about it how could you take me to Mexico not mention once we're coming to get Miguel like my mortal enemy but I guess that's about all I had to say about that because we already talked about the whole pepper thing.

[00:58:10] Not to mention I don't think Johnny is the easiest person to live or travel with you know he's not incredibly bright. I think it would be pretty fun. I think it would be pretty fun. Yeah it would be trouble for a while.

[00:58:22] It may for good stories but then you got it I can't keep going that way. I think a short road trip with Johnny would be okay not a long trip. Maybe not to Mexico. He's gonna pick a fight one day he's not gonna win. That's right

[00:58:36] he almost he would have lost the fight because he was coming up behind but luckily Robbie came in. The MMA guy too he was gonna choke him out. Yeah the MMA guy because it was so cool to see MMA with a modern martial art

[00:58:54] go up against this old 80s karate and even I was like cool karate versus MMA and then the announcer said the same thing but I'm like yeah once you once a grappler gets hold of you you're gone and say in for real

[00:59:08] if they had been in a real situation MMA guy would have taken him down in no time. I mean he had him in a hold and it seemed like okay that's it but then they Robbie threw him the pepper he put the gasp.

[00:59:24] That's it but they had cheated too I think the writers did that on purpose so it didn't just look like old Johnny was playing dirty because they held him. Yeah. Tip for tat. That's right. It's your turn Rima. Right? I think we're done.

[00:59:44] I only have to like it. I forgot to tell you guys but I don't care about the whole three thing anymore because I have more points. Oh okay. Well then why don't you go? We didn't talk much about Miguel and Hector

[01:00:00] I forget how but Miguel knew his father's name was Hector Salazar and I guess we did actually kind of talk I thought it was a little bit forced how they ended up hanging out because Miguel pulled this kid away from not that fast moving honking car

[01:00:16] that wasn't even slowing down that much and then this guy invites him home serves him dinner opens up to his life says hey we're family today like one time I thought I lost Nico at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk I had a horrible feeling.

[01:00:32] He was only two or three I was screaming his name Nico and this woman said I think he's over there and then I invited her home for dinner and took her to a movie just kidding I was like thank you but I guess it's nice

[01:00:50] I mean there are some people like that but then when he took Miguel to the cage fighting arena I thought oh shit is Miguel going to end up in the cage? and then the whole FBI thing which was hilarious so what was

[01:01:06] did he ever really directly said right was he a drug runner or was he a probably I feel like they were trying to imply he's like a cartel leader the cartel or something but I'm like he did not I didn't get the vibe from him I didn't feel

[01:01:20] very threatened I mean he's hiding in the little store and being like oh we got to hide out here for I'm like why are you even taking Miguel like why like if you have to go hide and for like

[01:01:30] or lay low for a couple days why are you bringing Miguel with you I don't understand what that was about but I didn't get that vibe from him that he was that threatening but I think that's what they were trying to imply and all that stuff

[01:01:42] too is just all too obvious too so bopperish you know it's like alright this is real and then Miguel's like well I guess I should go and he's like okay see you I got the vibe that he could be threatening he first stuff everybody said hello to him

[01:01:56] so he was clearly important well after a season of Lalo Salamanga he's not I guess that's what I'm coming off of yeah even with that for me even with Lalo I still felt like yeah everybody's respecting him and he's got these guys these henchmen who

[01:02:16] will do whatever he says and he started to lose it he drank I think that was part of it and also he was paranoid because he had problems in Ecuador with the government and he started to get kind of go off the handle and stuff that energy

[01:02:36] just freaks me out like I don't like it at all and I don't blame yeah that's what I kind of dug about this whole segment with storyline was that Hector is charming and everything but he has two sides to him and luckily Miguel

[01:02:56] got to see what kind of man he really was which is a criminal, angry blames other people and has all that stuff and I thought about Daniel's plan to expose Silver for who he really is hoping his students will see

[01:03:12] and leave and chosen saying we'll push into his limit he will reveal his true colors because that's what happened luckily and accidentally Hector because of the stupid female body investigative or whatever he accidentally got into a position where he revealed his true colors to Miguel

[01:03:28] and then Miguel decided I see who you really are I'm not going to even tell you I'm your son, I'm out of here and Johnny's right there waiting for him his true father figure and the show is about father figures and good role models

[01:03:40] and Daniel's father died when he was young and Miyagi stepped in and Miguel never knew his father but now he knows he was probably better off and that's how I feel, I didn't know

[01:03:52] I'm probably better off, I met him a couple of years ago for the first time and that made me feel better about not having known him before that yeah, well no definitely he's definitely better off without Hector I saw more of a coward though than anything else

[01:04:04] because if you think back to you know he was he's like I think I better lay low for a little while and Miguel's like what about your girlfriend and her son he's like oh she's just after my money you know kind of paranoid

[01:04:14] and he said the same thing about Carmen and her mom, she's like I didn't work out you know because she wanted something for me then she ran away and stuff like that I'm just like yeah you're a little guy yeah, he's coward yeah I mean if you saw

[01:04:32] Better Call Saul Lalo is a special kind of psychopath who never shows his cracks and this guy's not like that at all he was pretty easy to trigger and Lalo you never see him triggered even when he's about to well I don't want to give the plot away

[01:04:50] but yeah so I'm not saying he's like that but I definitely saw him as the kind of person I mean they said that he made money a long time ago in a business other than restauranting the kind where you make friends but also enemies

[01:05:06] and he's afraid of the FBI and he said the government came down on him so I mean whatever it is it's illegal and it's probably drugs or weapons or both right what else could it be I don't know hey could have been an MMA promoter sorry

[01:05:22] joke before it was legal yeah alright dogfights, ran dogfights or something oh yeah shouldn't even bring that up sorry no please yeah okay what about the fights we didn't really talk about the fights I mean I guess we did some we talked about chosen fights

[01:05:42] yeah you're right we kinda did huh and that was I don't know I think one of the best ones yeah the ones I don't know they were good but they're kinda like kinda seen that before but it was still fresh enough

[01:05:54] that I wasn't just like okay time to go to the bathroom or whatever but I thought they were pretty fresh and they had some good music going with it too the Johnny and Robbie's fight with the Australian guys I liked that and that music they played

[01:06:08] I can't remember the name of it but it was from the movie Desperado which I really really love so they played that and I was like oh yeah good song choice but that was fun I'm glad Johnny didn't fall for that and I'm really sad that Miguel did

[01:06:24] cause I'm like dude I saw that coming from a mile away those are those, that's one of those little things where you remember oh yeah he's just a high school kid yeah I was like okay well he is a kid but still it was like come on

[01:06:36] he looks like he's 25 but he probably is in real life but what I liked about that fight is how cool and calm Johnny was that was cool yeah they're like are we gonna do this the hard way or the fun way and then when it was clear

[01:06:52] they were gonna fight the guy goes so the fun way and Johnny goes yeah the fun way just like that and then they start punching each other and then when they beat him all up Robbie Kimmon and he's all audio stick heads yeah that was cool

[01:07:08] I like how Johnny just walked right in too especially he did the same thing at the MMA fighting place he just walked right in he's like look at these little guys grab ass grab ass MMA dudes he's like hey you know Hector that's right he doesn't care

[01:07:26] but then when he was fighting the MMA dude he punched him and kicked him a couple of times but the guy was pretty strong he kind of had that look on his face like uh oh yeah this might be a little harder than I think

[01:07:38] and then when chosen was speaking to music when chosen was fighting all the senseis they were playing this kind of big bellowy like horn music and I think that's I didn't go back and look but the same kind of music that was played in Karate Kid 2 a lot

[01:07:52] I think that was the best fight was it chosen yeah that was awesome that was cool good karate yeah he had good form it was great to watch I guess he really knows karate that guy yeah they all seem like they're in good shape

[01:08:10] all these people in this show what's going on with that we need to be on a show I was gonna say that'd be good motivation for me to get my ass back in shape they're all like pushing 60

[01:08:22] they look great did anyone look different or older to you guys I didn't think Shio looked younger in this episode when he was sitting at the pool in that Hawaiian type shirt or whatever giving that my tie to Amanda

[01:08:38] I was like he looks like he did a freaking karate kid right there he looks younger, jeez dude never ages okay here's callbacks and references so uh I think I mentioned this before but the Cobra guys they have this whole high tech edge under Terry Silver

[01:08:58] even more so now kind of reminds me of Rocky 4 when Drago had all these machines and Rocky's out with his carrying logs and stuff with nature Johnny is giving Robbie Gifts from this convenience store and he goes I got you a little something

[01:09:16] to say welcome to Mexico and it's a bobble head Chihuahua with sombrero and then he goes and here gift number two and I think that's a reference to karate kid when Miyagi gave Daniel the patch that he sewed onto his gi of the tree

[01:09:30] and then he goes and gift number two and he tells him to choose which car he wants but Johnny's gift is a female body inspector t-shirt but it felt like that was a reference to that scene that was hilarious when he brings out the phone

[01:09:44] and he's like it's got 60 minu-nos on it it's like 300 American minutes yeah like time is different time is different he Daniel tells I think it's a man to forget I reached out to chosen because this isn't about a tournament anymore this is real life and in karate kid 2

[01:10:10] chosen zip line down to where Daniel's girlfriend Kumiko was performing and had a knife to her throat and said to Daniel you cross this bridge to come over to me or I kill her and Daniel starts to go towards him and Miyagi says Daniel son

[01:10:26] this not tournament this for real so I like that was a callback like before it was said because you're about to fight chosen and here it's like this is why I called him in because it's not a tournament it's real life that's cool Daniel says

[01:10:42] this isn't your fight Sam to Samantha I know first hand silver isn't afraid of putting kids in harm's way well watch karate kid 3 it's a reference to the whole movie where where silver tortured poor Daniel and I always say this because I don't think everyone

[01:11:04] I don't know I feel like people aren't doing it but I think to get the most out of the show you really should watch karate kid 2 and 3 and we covered both of those movies and the first one a while back

[01:11:16] so they're still in our feet if you want to listen karate kid 3 is the one the least people have seen and I think it's going to be more relevant than ever this season but 2 as well I do think it's weird to make a show that's so dependent

[01:11:26] on a movie that's poorly rated but it had good villains and I do think that people if you're a fan of the series you will enjoy those movies more now don't you think yeah I think so too it's like vice versa right

[01:11:42] movies you're a big fan you like what we're doing right now call back some references and then if you watch the show you go back to the movie right but 3 when I watched it I was like what a piece of crap why did they do that

[01:11:56] but now I get a total kick out of it you know you're like oh that's how that's going to play out just to see how he started it's still not a great movie but I just think you'd get something out of it now

[01:12:10] I appreciate the series more too because they pull a lot from both movies and they're going to pull more from Karate Kid 3 this season but Silver said what are you working on with our champion to chose that when he was talking to Tori

[01:12:26] and chosen said first train mind then train body and it made me think how there's a lot of first things first in Karate Kid like when Daniel caught the fly with the chopsticks and he goes I guess that means I can accomplish anything in Miyagi

[01:12:38] but first you accomplish paint fence or when Daniel saw Miyagi doing the crane technique out on the beach and he goes can you teach me and he goes first learn stand then learn fly or when he really wanted to learn how to punch and Miyagi

[01:12:54] wanted to teach him defense and balance first punching comes later there's a lot of that kind of thing funny how words always sound more wise with the Japanese accent yeah right I could say just about anything first punch then fly first fly then punch you must

[01:13:10] fly then stand put milk back in refrigerator I'm going to try that with my kids I hope I'm not offending anyone by the way sorry draw line now so the whole pepper thing Robbie needs money to get back Johnny's van that's impounded

[01:13:30] so he bets the guy can eat peppers that's a direct reference to when Daniel was in Okinawa and chosen tried to humiliate him by demanding he tried chopping through those blocks of ice and Daniel didn't want to do it

[01:13:42] and then Miyagi bet a bunch of money that he could do it and in both cases it's a public place crowded with people watching and all excited about it and Robbie even does the focus exercise that Daniel taught him putting his palms together

[01:13:54] close your eyes focus on your breath and Daniel did that in the ice breaking thing right before too which helped him be able to do it he also did it so he could switch the chili pepper out oh that's right yeah whatever that was pigskin

[01:14:12] it was the candy that Johnny bought him at the convenience store Mexican candy I think gotta have snacks and even just going to another country is sort of a broad reference to going to Okinawa now they go to Mexico so that's all I had for that

[01:14:32] I have one more point and it's funny lines and we may have talked about some of them Johnny says I got some choice supplies Mexican coax I think they're just coax Robbie says Mexican candy chicharrones and I just picked up this bad ass cell phone

[01:14:52] you mentioned that 60 minutoes that's like 300 American minutes and then later he goes the guy at the impound yard said 4000 pesos that's like a million dollars Robbie is like it's 200 dollars but we only have about half of that Johnny said to the Australian guy listen asshole

[01:15:08] you have five seconds to tell me which way that kid winner I'm going to take that surf board and shove it up so far up your ass your friends are going to be surfing you that was good what? alright my favorite the Mexican guy

[01:15:22] is trying to get Johnny to move his car saying in Spanish he's like he's got a toe zone and Johnny's like gracias gracias it's a custom decal no you need to move the van Johnny looks over at Robbie I think this guy wants money

[01:15:34] he's like no no no no dinero they tow his car and he's like hey and then he like throws his burrito at his car and then when they're at the peppering contest Johnny's going to go in but before Robbie says he'll do it and Johnny says

[01:15:54] I'll cover my mouth so I don't spit it out I think Robbie knew he had to go in at that point he's like I don't think dad's going to win I guess well maybe he had the idea to cheat right then who knows

[01:16:08] and then chosen I already said the one I thought was the funniest about talking about those size but when Daniel said about silver you have to be careful with this guy he goes no Daniel son he must be careful with this guy I just thought that was funny

[01:16:28] but you ended up being true so far it's true alright I'm done I do have a few random notes but it's your turn Rima for that I think the only if you have any just one quick note about when Johnny found Miguel there at the end

[01:16:50] he was on the phone with his mom one it was a very touching moment I thought it was really nice the hug between Johnny and Miguel but I also had a thought that dude you're standing right outside that like store or wherever that Hector

[01:17:06] could be watching are you not worried that maybe we should like walk away from here or something or get away from here I was like he's probably looking in that you are hugging this FBI guy right you know just accuse him of being a part of yeah

[01:17:22] so I was like that probably wasn't the smartest thing ever but um that's funny because when I saw that I was like if that was me I would have been like oh thank god Johnny let's go get in the car get out of here

[01:17:34] yeah I mean he had a gun and everything I was scared there too for sure so I was like dude why are you doing that right outside that window it kind of distracted from the moment yeah it was hard to be like oh touching because it's like

[01:17:50] okay so you love each other go yeah I could think about it he's I think you're right outside that window got that big FBI shirt on still yeah you're giving yourself away but it was nice so I did like that that moment it did get me all

[01:18:04] teared up poor Miguel breaking down with his mom on the phone and then seeing Johnny and stuff that was the perfect time to see him yeah right when he's just had this huge disappointment with his biological father yeah everything that he went through

[01:18:20] you know he really had all these hopes wrapped up into this guy and who he thought he was and then to have that huge disappointment and then to like see Johnny and know that you know Johnny's been there this whole time you know trying to be

[01:18:34] he went all the way to Mexico for him too that says a lot he came all that way yeah it was a big deal so yeah it was definitely a really impactful moment but so I liked that moment but also I was kind of like

[01:18:46] get out just go down the street and have your moment get out of there that's a good point but that's the only note that I have that we haven't already talked about so that's all I got you know thinking about it

[01:19:00] we got a little bit of history with that minivan too huh because they talked about the minivan and how Robbie used to live in it because he found the tire jack and he's like yeah I used to live here remember and he's like how'd you get it

[01:19:12] and he's like oh well we're looking for you we followed it to a chop shop got a little bit of a scuffle I remember that I forgot about that we got to see the magnificent eagle fang custom paint job on it I see people in those eagle fang

[01:19:32] t-shirts every once in a while yeah they didn't hide or skip on the shy away from the Mexican stereotypes either did they the yellow filter while they're in Mexico well I don't know I was kind of wondering about that because Daniel says some pretty

[01:19:52] borderline if not completely racist things about Mexico and Mexican sometimes he's clearly just clueless so I kind of wondered if they were actually trying to show a more fuller picture of Mexico just because of that but I don't know he still I don't think he learned

[01:20:12] anything he's still he hasn't changed a bit I was like well yeah but I mean I'm like really first thing Miguel gets off the bus and is immediately scammed that's how people think about it but it was by a non-Mexican yeah that's true well and that was

[01:20:28] a funny line also from Johnny they're like hey speak English he's like Australian he's like close enough or good enough I don't have any more notes okay I just had a few I like the new Cobra Kai style all sleek and cool with like mood lighting and everything

[01:20:54] it's definitely modern version the it's very Terry Silver his soul style I want his house man I want his whiskey I want his cool swords yeah well maybe you should open up a Cobra Kai dojo all the franchises I'm not sure about this is probably

[01:21:14] picking it's not even all the interesting but the timelines like it seemed like Miguel went straight from the tournament to Mexico and Johnny followed quickly but also Silver has a renovated dojo with the franchise machines stocked with health and fitness supplements and Cobra Kai promotions and commercials

[01:21:36] and it also seems like Tori just won the championship too because when she walks in that he goes let's give it up champ is in the house she's allowed to be a little late today like it just happened you know the day before

[01:21:46] but also she's in the commercial as the champ so um that's a good point that he must have the best contractors in the world to erect this dojo so quickly he just built it before the tournament because he knew all this was going to play out

[01:22:04] I mean he rigged it all that's what we'll say yeah the commercials ready and then my last point is the people still can be really annoying sometimes I already mentioned the thing about Daniel not giving Samantha any credit for how close she came and how hard she worked

[01:22:24] and then when Miguel called Sam from Mexico she's like what are you doing here it's dangerous she need to come back and then she gets mad at him for not asking about the tournament right yeah that's the teen drama stuff I didn't miss dude that's so annoying

[01:22:42] how are you making this about you then Miguel has you know half a day with his father and he calls his mom you lied to me and he should be saying mom he seems nice so what's the deal how is he dangerous but he's like

[01:23:00] mommy's great you lied to me and ruined my life yeah that's the soap opera formula right yes never answer a question yeah it's really vague ask a question with another question right yeah but that was small though I mean I don't know at the beginning

[01:23:18] Rima you didn't like episode one that much has your opinion changed at all Rima no not really I've I'm just no it just you know often and it's not so much even that it was a heavier episode I do appreciate some of the more serious parts

[01:23:42] of it you know in some of the drama and stuff and it doesn't always have to be so light it's more Cobra Kai is always just kind of bigger larger than life like it's got this big impact there's always like this big pow you know and I just

[01:23:58] did not feel that first episode I did not get that at all I just thought this didn't feel like the premiere episode like coming back to me it felt like yeah it was like right in the middle yeah it just did not feel like a premiere

[01:24:12] episode like another episode like I just always feel like every time we come back to Cobra Kai you know we're so jazzed up and so ready to go and excited for it to be back and you're not I've never been let down

[01:24:24] ever when we started a new season that premier is always like yeah baby we are back and this this first episode was kind of like huh okay this is where we're at fireworks yeah I just I don't know I kind of felt that too but now after

[01:24:40] seeing both of them and just realizing how everything ties together and they're thematically exploring some slightly new territory and doing it really well I really like them both but I get what you're saying though like any of that feeling I might have had

[01:24:54] of the first one is pretty much gone it's just like okay okay here we go here we go I like these first this first podcast because we watch two and now right after this we can go watch the next two

[01:25:06] so we can get four when we get you know a little more than a third of the way through the series right and it's 10 episodes but basically we will watch them in four weeks one month yeah so that's not too bad I mean I've read that

[01:25:20] Netflix might move away from releasing all episodes at once and do weekly and I hope so as a podcaster it's better my life a whole lot easier I've been griping about it for years yeah I think it's good for the shows at least the shows that are good

[01:25:38] to be able to yeah like in the olden days you know you just couldn't wait for the next episode to come out yeah there's now you binge it and you start seeing patterns and you're like oh okay well they're just kind of rehashing this you know yeah selfishly

[01:25:52] I want it but also at the same time I think it just does them a little bit better because you're talking about the show a lot more we don't talk about shows anymore people just binge a show in a weekend or in a week or

[01:26:06] however long and then they move on to the next and nobody's sitting down talking about it and analyzing it anymore well yes we are but you know people don't and you know we don't have those water cooler shows anymore there's so few shows

[01:26:20] that do that week to week you know and it's like what do you mean every show does it except Netflix shows every other show does it hey did you see Cobra Kai yeah I saw 10 episodes I know it was good yeah I think it's like

[01:26:36] information overload probably every I don't even need to say this but it's I want to binge a show if I'm not podcasting on it it's like potato chips you want the next one but and then when you have to wait

[01:26:48] it's like oh I gotta wait a whole week but overall said and done it lets you appreciate it more you have more time to think about it and digest it and process it and I think that's a more satisfying experience

[01:27:00] I'm not a banger so even if I'm not podcasting on something I don't do that when I first I mean the first time I ever did that was I hadn't watched Lost at all in season one and I kept hearing about it so I got the DVD set

[01:27:14] because there was no streaming services back then and me and my friend Chad just stayed up all day and night watching those and his wife is like what are you guys doing and it was it was pretty cool and it was right before season

[01:27:26] two started so we just went right into season two that was intense anyway I tend to watch two episodes at a time I'll watch like two and then not for a couple more days and then two more yeah that's what I call binging you know I'll watch

[01:27:42] maybe two episodes of something depending on what it is and how deep it is whatever but I don't like watching something in a weekend or in a night or anything like that it's just not I want to enjoy it yeah me too

[01:27:58] if we weren't podcasting on it I would watch it all in a weekend whether I like it probably not it's like heroin you just do it there's some shows you yeah you can't not watch the next episode because every show ends on a cliffhanger I mean every episode

[01:28:12] this podcast is my treatment plan keeps me honest your 10 step program it's right well 5 step so we will take a break there is more to come we've got some news we've got some listener feedback stay with us wonderful spam wonderful spam wonderful spam wonderful spam wonderful spam spam

[01:28:50] spam spam spam all right we're back it's time for some news well we already talked about how season 5 has a perfect at least today anyway perfect score on rotten tomatoes so when I saw that I was like okay so maybe that will help me then

[01:29:15] with that first episode that'll give me hope so I thought that was good news cause I was thinking oh crap the first bad season well I'd be surprised if you actually thought that but I was a little bit worried with that first episode I was like

[01:29:33] aww this is not but anyway we already talked about that I always worry about that with this show I shouldn't at this point cause after that first season was so good yeah it feels like they did it all what else could they do that's awesome

[01:29:51] well there was one interesting piece I thought it's hard to look up because all the episodes are available like we were talking about with Netflix they are all out there right now it's difficult to look up too much news and not get spoiled but I did see

[01:30:07] an MMA fighter that Johnny had to fight there in Mexico he's a true MMA fighter oh wow he is the current ultimate fighting championship he's 205 pounder Eric Anders wow so I thought that was cool that they got him on the show yeah but I guess Williams Apica

[01:30:31] they had a little interview with him asking about what that was like he said he was very kind and very easy on me and he laughs he said it was great he's a tank all the stunt guys including him

[01:30:45] he was great so it was nice that they let me the karate white lightning or whatever they called me get a shot in on them he said the spinning kale kick is very far fetched it wouldn't happen in real life but it's television so I'll take it

[01:30:57] it was great right so I thought that was pretty cool that they got a real guy in there so anyway that's all that I've got this week cool let's get some listener feedback hmm Alma Contreras I'm glad to see Johnny and Robbie finally having a relationship

[01:31:49] I was cracking up when he busted out that FBI female body inspector shirt and I knew those punk ass surfers were going to get a beat down from Johnny OMG Johnny's Spanish kills me the pepper challenge lol it was sad to see Daniel Danielson closing down the dojo

[01:32:07] off to a good start and I look forward to hearing the cast that's funny Erica N. Ferdur says just watched episode one and I'm so excited to be back I still can't believe that chosen is comic relief and is just so good at it I know I'm shocked

[01:32:25] to be honest that that's how they went with him and I mean especially if you had not seen him at all last season and just remembered him from cry to get to where he was just a total asshole but he's so great in this

[01:32:39] she goes on love the little surprise at the end side note finally met Ralph Machio last month he was seriously the nicest guy and is super excited about the new season I totally fangirled when he just started singing Rocky Horror songs for me because Erica does a Rocky

[01:32:55] Horror show so she was in her get up you know just showed me a picture it's pretty funny Tiffany Tabalt says my son suggested a Cobra Kai marathon this weekend as in the UK everything else is cancelled because of the queen's death and it's raining

[01:33:11] and I told him one episode a week because I follow the podcast two times a week might sell better yeah two weeks could be over before you know it alright so we have a call from Mike Caruso he's called him before I see he's also left

[01:33:29] messages for all the way through episode eight so what we hearing from him throughout the season somebody did binge so here we go hey Jason Reimann Richard it's Mike from Cincinnati and we're back again for another season of Cobra Kai oh my god

[01:33:47] I'm so excited I freaking love this show and I know you guys do too and wow there was a lot to love in the first two episodes I loved all finally getting to see Johnny and Robbie finally get along and it seemed like it made Johnny really happy

[01:34:03] so it made me really happy as well and it was cool to see Miguel you know finally meet his father even though it was a little sad a little heartbreaking even though you kind of suspected that it might be once we finally got there

[01:34:19] and I think my favorite aspect of these episodes was the chosen Terry Silver stuff it was just will Terry figure it out how long will the facade last you suspected it wouldn't last very long and of course it didn't but I found that really compelling

[01:34:37] and also it occurred to me chosen being one of the main antagonists from the second film and Terry Silver being one of the main antagonists from the third film and having those two antagonists from separate movies now well you know I'm assuming they're going to eventually

[01:34:55] come to blows it seems pretty obvious at this point so I just thought that was cool and there might be other characters coming back from some of those other films and we might see them come to blows and we might see a bunch of mixing and matching

[01:35:09] of some of those pairings and I thought that was really cool I'm getting even more excited to see where this season goes and I think we could be in for some surprises so can't wait to put on these next two episodes right freaking now probably and

[01:35:25] you guys have to say later thanks Mike his enthusiasm is very infectious that was great thanks Mike and I agree it's one thing I didn't mention believe it or not I didn't mention everything is it is cool to see the two villains from the two movies together

[01:35:45] you know we've never seen that before that's cool Chozen and Terry Silver I wonder if there will be a scene where all of the villains are on screen at once like a villain reunion Chozen, Terry, please they're all in a bar making fun of Johnny and Daniel Toastin

[01:36:07] Complaining Oh my back Daniel's an asshole great Johnny's there too, yeah you're right Nooo Daniel wakes up from a dream Nooo The perfect end to that dream is it pans over and there's Amanda there totally stuff just writes itself Yeah Alright that's our show thanks for listening

[01:36:48] everybody hope you enjoyed that it's great to be back talking about this show always makes me happy totally if you want to write in or send us a voice message you can find all our contact information at podcastica.com slash contact

[01:37:04] and while you're there be sure to check out our other shows oh yeah Rimi you just recorded an episode of the cast of the rings today the sun's rings of power how did that go yeah I just I finished about an hour before we started today

[01:37:18] I haven't even seen the episode yet it was really great got to record with Ann-Win and Penny and that was fantastic and oddly enough as long as I've known Ann-Win and Penny just feels like she's been a long time part of the family podcasting family

[01:37:34] but we'd never podcasted together so it was it was amazing and you know it's a great show that rings of power I'm digging it so far I don't know I don't understand the criticism at all or like any negativity that I've heard whispering about

[01:37:50] I think it's really good yeah it's sad but have you just seen the first episode before no this was the third episode that was on the third oh yeah but I've been digging it I just don't have time

[01:38:06] but I want to watch that as soon as I can well if you're listening to this on House Podcastica we'd love it if you'd subscribe to the standalone version Cobra Kai Cast which has all our Cobra Kai coverage thank you everybody and next episode of this podcast

[01:38:26] will be Cobra Kai season 5 episodes 3 and 4 playing with fire and downward spiral uh oh maybe that's chosen just losing it oh man oh no I'm not going to watch it this will be the last episode of Cobra Kai Cast with Jason just kidding alright that's our show

[01:38:48] thanks for listening adios dickheads