34: “Rifting Apart” (S3E8)

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast I'm Jason I'm Richard and I'm Chris and this is the Evil Dead Cast episode 34 Let's see we got this one in two more to go more all sad Chances are that last ones ever right chances are I heard you guys reporting

[00:00:58] Was it last week? Yeah, that that uh there were rumors. It might get renewed, but you didn't really have any faith Yeah, well it was from a site and we don't know I shoot I forgot the site already

[00:01:10] But yeah, I didn't sound too to you know official, right? That'd be awesome. Yeah, I was listening to that while I was at the convention Breaking down the convention at the end of the day on Sunday, and it was really fun to

[00:01:25] Listen to you guys and not be a part of it, but just like be a fan I Hear all the news and everything Yeah, well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I I must admit I do enjoy editing them

[00:01:40] Which is I do a lot of podcast editing, but so you'd think maybe I'd be tired of it But for some reason I have fun doing that. What do you what do you like about it?

[00:01:51] Maybe just that it's I for some reason I just feel like it's a little different than editing my own show And I like I like the format you've come up with with the clip at the beginning and

[00:02:03] The intro and the bumpers. I just I don't know maybe it's just something different because it's a little different Yeah, but yeah, you did a good job of just like Seamlessly picking that up Thanks, man. It's really cool. I want to edit some of my other podcasts

[00:02:20] Oh, yeah All right, let's get on with it Dead Cast top 3 in 5 All right, it's our dead cast top 3 this week is our top 3 highlights for Ash versus Evil Dead season 3 episode 8 rifting apart Rich haven't heard from you much. What did you think overall? Did you like it?

[00:02:53] Yeah, you know this episode it it only seemed to like last about five minutes for me because I was so engrossed in what was going on It right it went by fast and it's getting down to the wire man

[00:03:04] You know, I want to see what's next but at the same time. I don't want the show to end Last week Yeah, last week Chris you hit it on the you hit the nail on the head man and predicted that our heroes

[00:03:18] You know would have to die to get in the rift and that's that's what happened. That was cool I thought it was totally cool to bring in a little cannon, you know when yeah Professor no be from the movies. I thought that was cool to then Kelly

[00:03:31] Kelly being left behind. Wow man. That was a sorrowful surprise to me. I was like what? Oh, yeah Kind of made sense but at the same time I wasn't expecting that yeah It's it was cool because not everything can go perfect. Yeah

[00:03:45] The props to Dalton again. He sacrificed himself For the greater good a second time this guy's not so bad now right can we get a little love for Dalton here? I mean, I don't think so that's like the biggest sacrifice anyone could ever make because

[00:04:01] It seems like he's going to hell now and will be tormented forever, right? That's what I thought I don't know that's how to well. He said it himself. He goes. I feel the next stop is hell

[00:04:12] Yeah, and he said if you see that bitch Ruby or something, you know tell her I'll see her in hell or something like that Yeah, but still Chris doesn't like him No, nope Cuz he kissed Kelly

[00:04:29] Well she seemed to like him way too much for my liking actually Get it right dragon tail Yeah, I'm once I still I was bummed to see him come back and I'm glad to see him gone

[00:04:44] I admire you for sticking to your guns. What did you think the episode? Well, I I'm afraid you guys I think might have to talk me into liking this one a little bit more

[00:04:56] Because it it wasn't one of my favorites. I found it a little less funny than usual and I although I did appreciate the jokes in it a little bit more the second time through But the tone was a bit different than this one

[00:05:10] I found it way more serious Than some of the other ones and that's not necessarily a bad thing but But it it did feel a little bit out of place for ash versus evil dead kind of like a bottle episode, you know to me

[00:05:27] but there was definitely some cool stuff about it I'll talk about the The place the dead place inside the rift there and so on but mostly I think it felt a bit abrupt Kind of like and I know we have two more episodes to go

[00:05:43] So I think there's some stuff to come that will flesh it out a little bit But they were in and out of that dead lands. I think it's called awfully quick. So Overall, yeah, not my favorite, but I can find some stuff to like and as it goes

[00:05:58] I'm sure by the end of the podcast. I'll be a little more on board Yeah, I hope anyway. Yeah, I was thinking kind of along the lines of what you were just saying that

[00:06:09] This episode felt like what we were maybe thinking was gonna be the climax of the season because we're waiting for Ruby to try to get Brandy to kill ash and we're waiting for all of them to go inside this riff dimension and

[00:06:23] Do something and that's all kind of resolved now and we have two more episodes left. So It's interesting like I don't really know what to expect which I feel like is a good thing But yeah, I was expecting this to happen at the very end

[00:06:37] Yeah, that's kind of it but And you're right. I mean having not really knowing what's gonna happen now towards the end is is a good thing Like I don't want I want to be surprised, right? So that's that's fine

[00:06:49] But but yeah, it's sort of they went in they came out and I know Kelly's still stuck there And that's definitely interesting and I am excited to find out what happens with that

[00:07:00] But you know who knows I don't maybe maybe they help they all have to go back in now or something instead of just just ash Well the things you were saying about the tone actually lead into my number three

[00:07:14] So I'm just gonna start if you guys don't do it So number three is is the mood which there wasn't just one mood But I felt myself really moved in different ways throughout. I feel like yeah, it started out really grave more than maybe we've ever seen

[00:07:31] Ash and Pablo are driving in the ambulance and Ash says just like old times, huh? And he said that at least a couple of times in this series but this feels least like old times than ever to me because

[00:07:43] Kelly's dead Brandi's dead in the back, you know her body's in the back a version of ash just carved up a bunch of innocent teenagers and It feel it feels more like a regular horror movie in this in the beginning of the episode like oh man

[00:08:01] all hope is lost and I I actually kind of like that But I could see where it might feel a little bit jarring and then later When ash realizes that he needs to kill himself. That's pretty I don't know like whoa

[00:08:19] You're gonna commit suicide right on screen. That's They did manage to make it funny where yeah, he's goes to do it and it gets tense and then What I can't do it. What if it doesn't work here? Here you do it and then I don't I don't know

[00:08:34] I am I'm new to this all right screw it. We'll do it together ready one two and ash goes two and a half Pablo says three And then you have Pablo sitting there with Ash's body and that seemed kind of bleak to me because I

[00:08:53] Just thought man. What if that was me? I'd wonder what if Ash never comes back and this was just a horrible idea And here I am sitting next to the dead body of my best friend that I just helped kill, you know

[00:09:04] Yeah, I mean that was it. He was kind of sad there Yeah, he didn't know if anything was working so It all those things you've mentioned are sort of what got me a little bit down on it and just ash being genuinely sad about Brandy being dead and

[00:09:22] You know on one hand I'm glad he is because he he wouldn't be a very good character if he wasn't upset about his daughter dying but But it was different and I it kind of made me a little bit feel a little bit off about the whole thing

[00:09:35] Here's one thing that might change your mind a little maybe maybe not but The fact that they that they do feel bad that that Pablo feels bad and ash feels bad Makes the show feel like it has a little more stakes than usual because

[00:09:50] These characters actually do care about each other, you know And so when something bad happens the tone of this the episode changes Whereas like yeah, if you just said like you just said if it didn't change then it would feel really frivolous You know, yeah

[00:10:06] But on the other hand, I mean when they realize okay, we can all just go into this other dimension It almost took away from the stakes a little bit to me. I still liked it, but They're all dead and yet they're still able to work together to win

[00:10:21] And uh, it made me feel like well If you know, it seems like the only way to get into this Limbo dimension or whatever it is the dead lands is if you're killed by the evil

[00:10:34] That it would probably be better to be killed by the evil than any other way because at least you'd have a chance to come back to life, which Ash and brandy end up doing

[00:10:43] Yeah, you're not dead dead. You're just dead lands. I'm half mostly dead. Yeah half dead And then just the last thing about mood This whole

[00:10:53] Deadlands was pretty cool. I liked the green mistiness of it kind of reminded me of the upside down from stranger things a little bit Totally and the weirdness of Doors leading to different Places and and the weird

[00:11:09] Shadow creature that made clicky noises and rose out of the ground with smoke kind of falling off of it Was really spooky and cool And then the black like scaly hands pulling people down and all this stuff

[00:11:22] Um and them not really knowing how it were. I just like other dimensional kind of things where people are kind of out of their depth And then uh, then then when the ashes car gets dragged down and then comes bursting out with kick out the jams

[00:11:36] When the fuck uh, you know that that turned the tone around for me like by the end of the episode I was feeling pretty great about the whole thing. So that's another reason why I You know, I'm okay with the graveness at the beginning because they managed to

[00:11:50] End it on a higher note sort of I mean it's scary for kelly, but still they managed You know, he managed to save his daughter. So that was kind of a feel-good moment for me

[00:12:00] Yeah, I would agree with that. It did end a little bit more feel good But jason do you mind if I jump into my number three? Yeah, I'm done

[00:12:09] Basically it is sort of the deadlands in general too and a lot of the things you just ran through I uh I liked about it, you know the green fog everywhere. I thought it looked really cool and creepy

[00:12:21] Um, and the the idea for me that you can actually survive there If you manage to hide from that smoke monster or whatever it was I think is actually pretty cool, you know, if you're if you're stupid and just run around making all sorts of noise

[00:12:35] You know, you're dead, but if you play it smart a little bit you can actually hide from the thing Which I thought was pretty cool. So it it does give them a way to

[00:12:44] Survive down there. And I also thought it might make a really cool video game someday So video game companies like think about that for a while um The shadow monster or smoke monster was great the hands coming up as you mentioned

[00:12:58] I thought was definitely really creepy when it was pulling a person down Uh, I have different feelings about the car but I might get to that later. Um, and then in general It was super cool to me how

[00:13:12] The place basically is elk grove, but the doors are all mixed up And I had this idea where I kind of hope that they all have to go in To the deadlands for a big extended battle

[00:13:24] Towards maybe you know to finish off the season because I started imagining them running around You know being chased by things or fighting things off and ending up in random places and trying to deal with this

[00:13:37] Unknown of going through a door and not knowing where you're gonna end up sort of as they go And I just thought it would be a really cool like chaotic situation to be in Whether that happens or not, I don't know but it uh, I also thought

[00:13:49] That maybe they could end up back at any location from past seasons even and I thought that might be pretty cool If they kind of jump around like that pay homage to the rest of the series or something Yeah, totally

[00:14:02] I just think there's some a lot of fun maybe to be had in the deadlands if they do all have to go in there To to end whatever this is so I did really like that

[00:14:13] You know the concept of that place and that was sort of what I wanted to go with for number three I thought about the same thing, you know, how cool would it have been To see some other past characters in the deadlands like kelly's parents or

[00:14:26] Or like chet or rock or or amanda because they're probably all in there somewhere, right? Well Either that or they were dragged down to hell Oh, yeah, but yes, yeah, I think you're right. It could have been cool to see

[00:14:41] In a way it in a way it kind of gives them the ability Gives the show the ability to do almost anything they want which Could go either way, but I think it could be fun. You know in a show like this, right?

[00:14:54] Yeah, that's why I mean I have a feeling you were gonna say you thought the car thing was kind of stupid But um because it is ash were zeal dead I I I just sort of stumped down those voices and let the ones that were saying

[00:15:08] All right great moment come out Well, you know what I'll I'll I'll say I'll talk about the car now then really quick because I did feel that it was really really evil dead ish to have the car pulled down underground like that

[00:15:23] Yeah, but then it just drives back out and I'm like I want to know like people get pulled down in there They've gone to hell But a car gets pulled down and they can drive it back out

[00:15:33] I want to know like where it went how it came back out And I felt a little disappointed that it just reappeared like with no problem. It seemed like so It's the classic I know I know I know totally

[00:15:49] And then and then immediately following that they they drive right through the monster With like no effect on it and seemingly no ramifications to them either I thought I thought for a second when they were speeding towards it

[00:16:02] It was they were gonna like hit it and it would be solid or something like that instead of going through but I guess It just there's nothing to it. Yeah, I think they're

[00:16:12] Well, I don't know maybe I'm thinking about this more than any of them did but it feels like on this show The car is almost like a mythic Thing, you know, and so they're paying homage to that

[00:16:26] Exactly that's a good point and I can I can take that the car the car is this thing that sort of Can't fail, you know what I mean? So right and this is a great lead in because my number three is the car sweet

[00:16:42] The old's mobile delta 88. It's back, baby It it never really left rich And he was sad and he's like, oh no they killed they killed the car Yeah, the car's there it's covered in ash. Oh

[00:16:58] But yeah, no seriously that that is my number three when I saw it my like my whole Face lit up. I was like, hey look because you know, it's like part of the family

[00:17:06] It's part of it's part of the uh the ghost beaters is it you know and uh Ash had a great line too. This baby has bailed me out more times than a fistful of lube on a Saturday night

[00:17:17] The car scene I'll admit it didn't make a lot of sense But I thought it was totally cool. I you know and I also I also think they probably put this scene in because It may be the last time we get to see the car

[00:17:29] Oh, now you're just making me sad even more paying homage to the old to the old girl But uh, you know, it's been in all the movies. It's been in the series. It's it's in the comics It's been in this thing as long as ash has for

[00:17:44] What like 37 years it's good to see it. I thought it's like it's it's part of the family I want to know though like you said chris because it didn't make a lot of sense

[00:17:52] I'll fully admit to that when they got dragged down under where what the heck did they see down there and how did they get back up? I was imagining kind of just like a fiery tunnel and He floored it and somehow

[00:18:06] The power of the car was enough to escape the gravitational pull of hell or something like that right? Yeah Serious friction I Guess that's enough. That's all you need really for I mean I I understand I had those thoughts too, but

[00:18:23] I just the way that it busted out and you know caught a bunch of air and they were playing that kick out the jams I'm like, all right fine Fine You guys do such a good job with the music I can take

[00:18:38] Yeah, if that happened on walking dead, I wouldn't be as forgiving. Oh my god Yeah, you don't want to tear apart this shoot show too much. It's too easy. Yeah All right, is it my turn Yes, sir okay, so It's about

[00:18:56] their plan and and the mechanics of this this dead place And ash gets the idea when he realizes. Oh man, it's so bad You don't know who's dead or alive or somewhere in between then he imagines

[00:19:07] Professor nobby's ghostly floating head from evil did too like we mentioned trap between dimensions And he said 30 years ago Noby's spirit got stuck and what the book said was a rift between time and space I was just surprised ash could remember that for one thing

[00:19:26] But uh, he knows poplo and keller in there so he thinks brandy might be in there too So the plan is to go in there after him And they decide they don't want to have poplo open the rift and have him go through that because

[00:19:38] Of what happened to that night's night of samaria got demonized or possessed Which begs the question. Well, why like If you die and go in there then your spirit is fine, but Or maybe it's just the body I guess okay

[00:19:54] Like i'm trying to make sense of this and it's probably ridiculous But what I just came up with is if your body's still outside It's your body that really gets possessed So if just maybe that night's a samaria, maybe his spirit was actually still stuck in there

[00:20:08] And it was just his possessed body that came back out, you know Yeah, you're talking about the guy that I worked either they came out with and got the second head, right? Yeah, yeah, so I think when he came out

[00:20:19] I'm just gonna say he left his spirit in there and it was just like all the other dead spirits anyways Makes sense to me. Yeah, so uh, you know poplo Says, uh, you know, you have to be killed by the evil to go in there

[00:20:36] And I was thinking well kelly and brandy and now ash were all killed by the kandarian dagger But then dalton is the one that we know of and I guess some of the high school kids too that were

[00:20:48] Killed by other means related to the evil and they're they're still in there Yeah, I think last last episode chris. We thought it was just a dagger, but I don't think it is I guess some of those kids were just slashed by

[00:21:02] Demon ash so they were just killed by the evil and they were down there And dalton too. He was impaled by a tree by ruby Oh, oh, I think the evil did it right it like swept him up and

[00:21:15] No, I think so yeah, and and I think that all works for me. They were all killed by the evil And the dagger counts. So yeah, if you're just killed by a regular person You won't go there. Don't go there, right you go straight to hell

[00:21:31] And so we find out that through kelly that most people Get taken down by the shadow monster without a fight but but they're fighting and You know, we think that if they get taken down they'll they'll go to hell

[00:21:46] And so they want to put brandy's spirit back into her body And so they have to save her body first And the only thing about this is I was thinking usually when people die from the evil their bodies reanimate as deadites and

[00:22:07] Including this one that pablo had to fight right? But not brandy and I mean, I guess Um Kelly her body is being used by kaya, but not ash either. So to me that part didn't totally make sense Yeah, I wrote the same thing

[00:22:25] I'm a little confused on why the corpse that ash and pablo brought down with them into the cellar turned into a dead Ite, but brandy didn't yeah They're both died around the same time. Yeah And I was thinking that maybe

[00:22:38] You would only turn into dead eye if your spirit in the dead lands got dragged down But then I remembered that dalton Had not got dragged down yet and his body turned into a dead eye So whatever

[00:22:55] The only other there's a couple other mechanics. So kelly encountered that barrier I just assumed that's because her body is occupied, right? Right. She can't come back She can't come back because her body's in use and it needs kaya needs to get out of there

[00:23:10] Ash's plan is to find the cellar in the dead place and jump through a rift that pablo opens But I'm like, how did he know that that this other world was a kind of a weird copy of ours

[00:23:23] Where he could find that cellar before you went down. Yeah, I'm not sure he knew that And then okay, I said last a while ago, but this actually is the last so ash and brandy

[00:23:34] They both died and they came back to life and it makes me sort of wonder Well, can't pablo just like save them from now on if they ever get killed by the evil just make another rift and Have them come out

[00:23:46] I I guess yeah, he can just open it Seemingly anytime he wants so if they're in there, they just have to get to it and they can come right back out Yeah, maybe I think he can only communicate with them though

[00:23:58] Because then that guy come back out. I don't think you can pass Through it if you're alive No, but all I'm saying is if ash dies by the evil like he did in this episode then pablo can just open up the rift and

[00:24:10] Ash can jump right back out again Oh Yeah, I suppose so, huh? I had a note about ash himself. He's the chosen one, right? So if he commits harry carry or if he dies by any other means

[00:24:23] Wouldn't that like set off some alarms or some celebrations or something down there in deadland Or maybe even with ruby you think ruby would know about that, right? Yeah, because ruby's plan failed

[00:24:34] She was trying to get brandy to kill ash and brandy didn't kill ash brandy ended up dying But then ash killed himself so I wonder if I guess that didn't count Yeah, I don't know Well ruby's plan is is my next point actually because

[00:24:52] Um, it's it's just in the scene at the end You know we have kaya dragging zoe into the house there and at first ruby and and zoe seem really distressed that their plan didn't work like oh crap. We failed You know, what are we going to do now?

[00:25:10] And then suddenly ruby realizes that zoe's there and her eyes go all black, which I thought was pretty cool But uh, and she realizes that you know she There's some other plan they they can take and with zoe's help. What does she say? She's gonna use her to

[00:25:27] um Change their destiny or something change that that's right. Yeah. Yeah, and I was I know we don't have any details on this yet, but For me it sort of felt like it was too easy

[00:25:39] Like they had no idea what to do and then all of a sudden zoe shows up and now they've got plan b suddenly and I started thinking to myself well, how many angles do they have to work here? How how many approaches can they take to this because?

[00:25:53] It seemed like all season we had this one and it failed And I'm not saying, you know, it should have that should have been it but

[00:26:01] It just seemed like suddenly there was something else to do and now that's what the last two episodes are going to be about So I I must admit I didn't love that part either And maybe I will maybe when I find out about it

[00:26:13] Towards the end of the season as it wraps up It'll be awesome But right now I kind of feel like they're sort of changing it up on us for

[00:26:22] You know, not no reason but just kind of out of nowhere. They're like, oh, oh wait. We had two more episodes left It's a device you see they're gonna come up with a plan

[00:26:33] It's not gonna work. It's gonna screw everything up and evil's gonna die and ash is gonna win Either that or evil's going to win and take over the world Definitely one or the other never know

[00:26:48] Yeah, and maybe like we talked about last week the show will continue without ash, huh? That'd be nice. Yeah, that would be I don't think I'm on board with that. I really don't yeah I don't think that's gonna happen not because

[00:27:03] Not because you know bruce has been saying You know things that make us think he doesn't want to do it anymore or whatever Basically, he would still do it. I think if the show got renewed

[00:27:14] He's just saying if it doesn't then I'm not gonna do play ash and other things Right if there's a season four bruce bruce is down to do it. I think but if there's not a season four

[00:27:25] That's because they're canceling the show because it doesn't get enough viewers. So I just don't see A scenario in which the show goes on without bruce No, I agree. I don't really either and when he was

[00:27:37] Rich last week when we were talking about him making comments about ash not making it Now I feel like he was just kind of

[00:27:46] teasing us a little bit saying yeah ash is gonna die and like guess what happens in this episode ash technically dies for a while and comes back

[00:27:52] Right. So I I think he was just you know talking out of his ass a little bit there knowing what was coming out of that Exactly. It's hilarious rich number Number two Pablo Pablo was my number two

[00:28:08] I you know, they had a nice little focus on Pablo in this episode I like how Pablo is the key to this whole thing Like uh, like literally like he's the key. He could open the rift between the two worlds

[00:28:18] He's the key master, you know, and he was also the only one of the ghost beaters alive For a while, right for just a few minutes there. He was like the only one It's got in his his ability, you know, it's got ruby

[00:28:32] And kaya like we were just talking about super worried about the dark ones because they're like shitting their pants about The dark ones are gonna they're gonna get killed I guess so they're coming up with that alternate plan like chris said

[00:28:42] It also allows them to communicate with the dead It gives him a chance to bring the dead back to the living. He's got some pretty cool powers. I thought

[00:28:49] Pablo did and then he's got that fight with the dead. I you know all mechanics aside not sure how that poor kid became a dead. I and And bruce is I mean ash's ash's daughter did not but it was still a cool fight

[00:29:03] Uh first time I think I've ever seen death by paint shaker That was pretty cool. You know, I really like that because it was so gruesome and the look on his face Was just like fuck you and then when he was done he goes it's brujo speciale

[00:29:18] Bitch bitch. Yeah I like how his bitch was like an afterthought but he had kind of a sick look on his face the whole time Yeah You know as much as I enjoyed the actual fight and man, I feel super negative on this one

[00:29:33] I'm sorry guys, but as much as I enjoyed the actual fight In the back of my mind. I couldn't help but think All right, this whole thing is just here

[00:29:42] So pablo has something to do in this episode instead of just sit in the basement beside ash's dead body And I started thinking that because every time we cut away

[00:29:53] From what was going on in the deadlands and then we got the scene with the car which was in and out of the ground I'm like, oh I want I want more of this. This is awesome

[00:30:01] But we have to go watch pablo have a fight with the deadite which normally I love but it sort of felt like it was taken away and In hurting the other part of the episode that I wanted more of so I was a little down on that too

[00:30:16] Um, even though the fight was cool and I totally agree the paint head and the paint shaker was was one of my More favorite deadite kills actually. Yeah Actually, yeah, I kind of agree with you Uh

[00:30:29] There were parts where it was nice intense like when he heard the noise and you didn't know what's going on But I did feel like yeah, they're just trying to give pablo something to do

[00:30:37] But the paint shaker thing made it worth it worth it for me. Yeah, it did I felt It ended really strong I'll I'll totally give you that and I do think it was funny when this when the

[00:30:48] Cardboard cut out or whatever of ash went at him full speed and knocked him down. That was 22 Plus, you know when I was watching that I was thinking Has the uh hardware store and sex emporium actually been open longer than just one day

[00:31:02] It's like this hasn't been open You know what? I like rich how every time you bring it up. You don't fail to mention that it's a hardware store and sex emporium

[00:31:13] You got to give it its do man. You got to call it by its full title. It is what it is It's very true. You don't want to forget that sex emporium stuff

[00:31:21] You know that may have actually not even been in addition by ash either knowing his dad Could have been a sex emporium going back to the 60s Yeah, it probably it probably originally was a sex emporium and hardware store

[00:31:35] Yeah, ash cleaned it up a little bit. He cleaned it up and reversed them. Yeah Okay, whose turn is it? I think it's mine, right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Okay I I was just noticing that you know One thing I really like about this episode is

[00:31:52] Ash when the series started out, he's not sure he wants he's he's an alone wolf And we've seen him become close friends with ruby and popolo throughout the whole thing And then now we've seen him trying to be a really good dad

[00:32:07] and I mean trying anyway and when this uh episode starts It's really sad. He's like we went mono or ruby and she took the belt I couldn't even say my own daughter and it's it's really sad and then he decides

[00:32:21] He cares about her and he even mentions kelly too so much that he's going to kill himself risk dying for them So or even he would submit to a prostate exam so You know, that's the ultimate sacrifice

[00:32:37] He's ready like he at the end of season one. There's sinkholes opening up and he's like, ah, it's going to be fine Let's go to jacksonville But now he's ready to sacrifice his own life to try and save his daughter

[00:32:50] And he succeeds in that he brings his daughter back to life. So I feel like in this episode He seems actually more like a true hero Then uh, he's ever seen been before and even at the end

[00:33:02] Kelly doesn't make it and he says ghost beaters never leave a man behind So so he's ready to you know do what it takes to go back and save her too

[00:33:10] Yeah, I really did like that bit at the end where he as you said, he's ready to go back and save her I mean that says a lot about ash and uh, and I they better not leave kelly behind. I'll be pissed They won't I know Okay chris

[00:33:30] Uh, okay. So for my final point, um, we've talked about a lot of my stuff But I'll do maybe a couple of uh, of smaller ones here dalton As I said off the top, I still don't like him and uh I was

[00:33:46] You know, I'm like, oh look, they're just trying to make him a hero here So he goes out and has a big hero's death and sacrifices himself

[00:33:53] But I was just kind of glad he's dead. I didn't uh the kiss annoyed me and it also annoyed me how sad Kelly seemed when he died I'm just like come on. She barely knows this guy and Pablo's right there

[00:34:06] Well that made me think that she probably was banging him And well it the way they were like, yeah You know, maybe maybe only once they both got in the deadlands that started. I don't know but uh, They seemed she seemed pretty upset Uh

[00:34:23] My favorite part involving dalton though was when ash Runs into them in the bar in the deadlands and he says, uh, he says he came to save everybody But the jury's out on darwin here

[00:34:34] Yeah, I just think it's funny how he gets the name wrong. That's always that's always good. So I don't think we'll see dalton anymore and i'm okay with that Yeah, I don't think so until we're in hell

[00:34:45] Until we're in hell. Yeah if we get all the way there Um, and then kind of unrelated to that something else that uh drove me a little bit crazy And that is near the beginning when they're still in the school

[00:34:59] There's a cop walking through the school and he says expand the search for ash williams to state lines and He seemed very serious and then you we find out that ash is like right there behind one wall It's like he's you know, they haven't even found him

[00:35:15] They basically let him just walk out of the school And he goes he drives out in the coroner's van with the sirens blaring right past all these police officers He goes straight to his hardware store and they don't even come looking for him

[00:35:28] And i'm like, oh this is come on. I mean Make it don't make it so easy, you know And I I couldn't help but think that the whole time and then I like ross go and enus from duke's a hazard

[00:35:41] They're the worst cops ever and and then I realized, you know If poblo needed to do something maybe he could have dealt with the police showing up or something like that instead of fighting the

[00:35:52] Deadite maybe that wouldn't have been as exciting because the deadite is more fun to watch But I would have at least felt like the cops were doing something

[00:36:01] I did like that how ash went out of his way after he locked the ambulance doors to flip off the ambulance driver Yeah, the way he did it was hilarious. Yeah, the guy's right there and he doesn't like

[00:36:15] Turn around to his boss and be like we better go to that guy's house and look for a right place It works. I think you're forgetting ash is the chosen one man Sorry, I know

[00:36:25] I think it's it's pretty funny actually. I didn't catch that but the the cops were saying we need to expand the search to state lines Yeah, I think that's sort of an acknowledgement that It's kind of silly I guess so, you know yeah, I mean

[00:36:42] Ash would be like there'd be a massive manhunt for this guy at this point, right? Because they think he murdered all these kids in the high school and all the other stuff They think he has done but even last episode

[00:36:55] He was at the dance and a cop stared stared right at him and he just kind of ducked down And then the cop like didn't go after him Yeah, it's like if who was that was that ashy slashy. Yeah

[00:37:07] If the police can't see him. It's like he's not there Over his face. Yeah so Anyways, that's uh, that's most of what I've got Or for my number one, I guess Richard Wow, you know, I'm still thinking about Kelly

[00:37:29] And Dalton bumping uglies down there in the deadlands. Wow I don't know how that would work out. It doesn't seem like the most ideal place to get it on but hey You know you take what you can get Right. Yeah, you're about to potentially go to hell

[00:37:46] Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, you put that old line on the girl, huh? You know, this could be the last time we ever see each other I'm about to ship out to hell and uh, I don't want to forget you, baby Yeah

[00:37:59] Well, my number one was uh the deadlands we kind of killed that already but uh, okay The I thought it was pretty cool. The like jason had mentioned earlier the mood Was cool. I thought the set that they built for that was totally cool with the

[00:38:11] With the uh dead branches everywhere and all the ash laying around everywhere It was made it seem like super creepy in the headless shadow figure. That was a pretty nice touch It gave me a lot of anxiety I was like, yeah, what is that thing?

[00:38:26] But uh, yeah and the rest of it, you know the mechanics of it took a little bit away for me But uh overall I enjoyed this episode. I thought it was pretty cool You know what it was is I was prepared for it because I had watched

[00:38:38] Uh the last episode before and uh, you know it ends with brandy's death and Poor ash sitting there crying holding her with his chainsaw and his

[00:38:48] And his uh gun and then I was like, well, how the hell they're gonna get how do you know start the next episode? So I was like I was like ready to be sad and it did it started out really sad. So I wasn't surprised

[00:38:59] Well, I fully expect to like the final two because they're gonna they're gonna kill it They're gonna knock it out of the park. I think but we just this is the Calm before the storm that's gonna end this thing on a high note for me. I fully expect

[00:39:14] Do you think they're gonna fight down in the deadlands or do you think they're gonna fight the The big fight up here in the living world? I think it's gonna be something we don't we can't imagine

[00:39:26] Yeah, I I think that the next thing that's going to happen is they have to rescue kelly And that might mean Pablo goes in to rescue her and so he becomes her kind of hero savior

[00:39:37] And then they're all gonna come out and I think the big final fight whatever it Ends up being ruby and ash outside the deadlands. Yeah ruby is gonna Turn into something that won't just be ruby. I think it'll be her

[00:39:50] possessed by something or with the power of something behind her and ash has to really man up and I don't know probably sacrifice something big to to save the world Well, there were some good lines. Can we do some lines? Yeah

[00:40:07] Okay, this one I was gonna read but I realized I didn't know where to start and where to stop because it was Just I liked the whole exchange. So I just pulled a clip and I'm gonna play it

[00:40:18] It's when uh, Pablo and ash are trying to figure out What to do next right? Yeah All right, we got some ladies to bring back to life. So How do we do this?

[00:40:30] This is your plan. I thought you knew oh come on man. I don't know anything about this riff crap You're the cuervo especial Brujo especial. Yeah, whatever you shake your little rattle say some juju words. I jump in the rift

[00:40:42] Oh, yeah, and come back demon eyes like that night guy that didn't work with kelly. Yeah, but she was what a girl No, hi pregnant. Uh, you dog. Did you know hiffing?

[00:40:55] I think in order to get to this evil dead place is to get really wasted and do some shrooms I can do that in my sleep I think you gotta let the evil kill you Okay, stop

[00:41:09] It's one thing to read from an evil book and bad shit plagues your life I never said anything about the d word in all of my plans. All right. Well, I don't have any other ideas. So that's all I got boy

[00:41:22] Hey, I just realized I didn't I didn't notice it until now that pablo actually says the way to get to this evil dead place Uh-huh. This evil dead place. Yeah That's awesome. Maybe the only time those two words have ever been

[00:41:38] Said together in this whole thing. Wow, maybe maybe I have no idea, but I didn't notice it there until just now I like about how the thought of kelly and pablo doing it brought the only smile to ash's face in the whole episode Yeah Because she's hot pregnant

[00:41:58] He also noticed that when he went to the deadlands and he was walking through the sperm make you notice that magazine with the boobs on it Uh-huh I like when kelly's what she killed yourself. Are you out of your fucking mind?

[00:42:11] Yes, I would be if I didn't have a plan. You have a plan. Well an idea of a plan Basically like I have a plan. You have a plan. No, not really Not really. Yeah Or ash's keys are under the sun visor. I like that, of course Yeah

[00:42:30] At the beginning when he when he when they need to get the body and he he says I gotta get my hands on my little girl's Girl's body right away or something like that You know I didn't catch that pensionally funny

[00:42:42] Or ash is saying his plan to ram the car through the shadow monster and kelly says that's not gonna work Nothing works down here. Right because we're dead. I got it. We're not so dead that we can't try

[00:42:55] Always gotta try or he when he's trying to get the car going Come on and they're pulling it down. He goes you were assembled in levonia, michigan. You could do this. Yeah Yeah Dalton actually had a funny line. He goes come on you clicky son of a bitch

[00:43:14] Really I didn't catch that yeah, I like that or uh or ash is like Goes into the cellar. Where's the rift Pablo? You had one job Yeah Open the damn rift Ash says One problem solved two to go

[00:43:35] I would imagine one of those two is saving kelly, right? Right and the other one is the other one is uh killing uh ruby Ruby ruby. Yeah, okay demon ash is still there, but I guess

[00:43:49] Right he's still running around. No, he got his head blown off in two shots. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah The first shot he was like You missed you missed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Cool. Yeah, so it's killing ruby obviously

[00:44:03] Alrighty, I think that's good. Let's take a little break. There is more to come so stay with us So All right guys, it is time for some news about evil dead and the first item I have here

[00:45:04] Is um the fact that everyone was reporting on the ratings for last week's episode and how much of a massive Drop they took in one week So just to recap really quick episode one started with 225,000 viewers and then it dropped and it fluctuated around

[00:45:23] 160 to 170,000 but then episode six was back up to 196,000 viewers But episode seven lost 60,000 viewers from uh six to seven and went down to 136 So what? Yeah 136,000 viewers one third of the total viewers disappeared for episode seven And what was episode six?

[00:45:48] 196,000. I mean what happened did that like turn people off? I can't remember it was before the dance It was um Well kelly died at the end of that one right or sort of died and I wonder if people were upset about that Maybe yeah Yeah, so

[00:46:06] It's not like the dance is the thing that turned people off and then they didn't turn out for this week Um, well, you know, we don't know that yet. Yeah, right

[00:46:15] Uh, but I I think maybe it was the kelly death at the end of six and people are like, that's it Not we're done, but it's the lowest ratings or lowest number of viewers they've ever had And it was the single like biggest drop all at once. So

[00:46:31] It's kind of not a good sign But that's crazy because you know, I mean, I guess I don't really know But I don't know anyone who's into the show that's ever said

[00:46:42] Uh, you know what? It's not it's not that good anymore. I everyone I know that's into it loves it Yeah 100 and people who watch it Uh, you got to think they're they know what they're in for and they know what they're on board here for so

[00:46:57] Yeah, I just can't see how that many people would just be casual viewers and be like, uh, you know forget this thing So Maybe there is something else on was there something else on that everybody wanted to watch Hmm last sunday. I don't know. I couldn't tell you

[00:47:13] Hey, that's not like it was the Oscars or something like that, right? Right. Yeah, who knows Anyways, it's a huge drop and probably a bad sign, but hey, I mean we're are true We're already talking in the hundreds of thousands and not the millions. Oh, yeah, exactly

[00:47:32] It's uh, yeah, it's It's they're strangely low numbers based on the ratings. I'm used to talking about you know for other shows but You know, you have to compare the show to itself a certain degree and so

[00:47:47] Anyways pretty big I mean drop. I just I think it's awesome that they obviously Love this show the creators and the actors and they're putting their all into it even though the ratings aren't great We're doing this podcast Even though it's just costing us money basically

[00:48:06] Because our end time but we love the show and we I mean I just Enjoy kicking back and talking with you guys about it. Absolutely. You know, sometimes I feel like I would be um I'd be doing this even if there wasn't like an evil dead show, but

[00:48:23] You know, it's just fun to do no matter what so yeah, and it makes you like the show better Usually it does. Yeah, usually it does Okay, um, it was recently the 35th anniversary of the original evil dead movie so movie phone

[00:48:39] Published an article called 13 things you never knew about the evil dead on its 35th anniversary And there's a few things in here that are are pretty fun. So I pulled out um A couple of them here

[00:48:52] The first one is something you guys probably already know that of course evil dead was based on a 30 minute short film called within the woods that sam ramy made almost as a Proof of concept sort of for the movie to try and get some funding for it

[00:49:07] But what I didn't know is that one of the cohen brothers joel cohen worked as an assistant editor on that film and he said that uh It was sort of an inspiration to him later on when him and his brother

[00:49:21] Ethan were trying to get financing for their first film, which was called blood simple. So The cohen brothers got their start or at least one of them on the original evil dead short movie within the woods

[00:49:33] I thought that was pretty cool. That's cool. I I think I have that like somebody sent me a copy But I haven't watched it, which is crazy. I need to watch it. Whoa, man. You got to do that. Yeah, and then uh, Tell us about it

[00:49:46] um several alternate titles apparently were considered for uh evil dead including Book of the dead, which is you know something you could probably see them using one called blood flood It sounds ridiculous and then my favorite these bitches are witches Just for the rhyming if nothing else so

[00:50:13] You know, I think evil dead is probably the way to go there, but those are containing Uh according to the article the movie is still banned in some countries because of its graphic content

[00:50:25] Uh, so you know all these years later there are some places where technically you can't get it or can't see it And along those lines rami himself even apparently has admitted that he regrets Including the scene uh where sharyl is assaulted by a demonic tree

[00:50:43] So that's one of the yeah twice But that's one of the reasons I think it remains, you know unavailable in some places. So he may have made a different choice there um According to the article given its remote location

[00:50:57] Rami and his cast and crew had to live in the cabin for the duration of filming And apparently being in such cramped conditions only heightened tensions on set Especially because the cabin lacked any internal plumbing

[00:51:11] If you can imagine a whole film crew sort of probably some of them living Intense and some of them living in the actual cabin. We're just getting more and more annoyed with each other and had

[00:51:20] You know nowhere to take a decent shower or a decent crap probably so yeah Must have a body odor must have been righteous, huh? Oh must have been just incredible. Yeah

[00:51:30] So that's crazy because I already thought they made the cabin look way too much bigger on the inside than it seemed on the outside Now, you know, there's a whole film crew like living in there

[00:51:39] Yeah, probably just sleeping on the floor and everyone getting grumpier and grumpier. So um that sounds fun and then finally uh apparently there have been a number of unofficial evil dead sequels produced by italian filmmaker joe demado including 1988's ghost house And another one of his called witchery

[00:52:02] And I looked up witchery and it stars david hasselhoff, which I think is bizarre but that kind of lends some uh Legitimacy to it in a weird sort of way. I think so maybe I'll have to check that out sometime and see if it actually is

[00:52:18] Anything close to you know the quality of evil dead Is it with ash or just deadites and stuff? No, I don't think it's with ash It's just sort of inspired by it and with deadites and stuff. Yeah, right? Okay, but hasselhoff flew my mind david hasselhoff is ash

[00:52:36] Yeah I could almost see that I think it's like mostly in german too. I think he speaks german so just kind of weird But crazy Anyways, there's a few more in that article too

[00:52:49] I guess we'll post a link to it if you want to check them out some good old photos and stuff like that of Of the movie as well too Cool speaking of photos and I guess anniversaries Beide alvarez the guy who directed the evil dead

[00:53:05] Remake which came out five years ago now almost to the day like last week. It was five years ago when it was released he put out a bunch of Um stuff on twitter just to celebrate the anniversary and it's mostly just a series of photos as well

[00:53:22] With some descriptions and again, there's some really good stuff in there talking about how much blood they used you see the actress like sawn or ermoth and A really good shot of deadite mia mia was her character name

[00:53:37] So I recommend checking that out too. And in one of the photos he mentions that They used 50 000 gallons of fake blood So I feel like that's like that's a lot of fake blood

[00:53:54] And you know, that's what you get when they're like shooting it out of fire hoses to have blood raining down on everybody and stuff so

[00:54:01] Uh, yeah some good stuff in there if you are you know looking for some behind the scenes pictures and so on of the making of that film Um couple more evil dead the musical is coming back Briefly anyways, it's going to be put on

[00:54:19] At the University of Wisconsin Baraboo I'm not sure exactly what that means. I think it's the name of the campus but From an article on the wisconsin news It says choosing a zombie musical was a no-brainer for tom mckevally

[00:54:35] After all his name contains the word evil. His name looks like mckevally, which I think is funny mckevally director directs theater at the University of Wisconsin Baraboo a campus the locals call boo you And whose fighting spirits mascot is a ghost

[00:54:52] So it didn't take a lot of brains to pick evil dead the musical for this spring's production So if you are in the area it opens april 19 tickets are 15 bucks or 10 for students and you can go check that out That's in uh, wisconsin

[00:55:08] So sure there's somebody out there who might want to go see that And finally we have a cake shop that has made some ash versus evil dead cakes One of them is a chainsaw cake, which is absolutely incredible. Another one is a uh necronomicon cake

[00:55:27] Which is also really really good They have a youtube channel though and they make videos about the show the making of the cakes Which I thought was pretty interesting and it's a really elaborate chainsaw cake very very cool Uh their youtube channel is described as cakes cove

[00:55:43] Which is the name of the place makes every genre delicious through chocolate cakes cookies and other sweet treats Celebrate life's events with the geeky and nerdy fandoms you've grown to love and have inspired you So I would recommend going to check it out

[00:55:59] The youtube channel I mean and you'll see cakes like donkey kong game of throne stuff black panther a giant millennium falcon made out of chocolate Which is totally amazing. I thought And uh, yeah the the ash versus evil dead chainsaw cake is really really impressive

[00:56:15] She's able to like pick it up and like put it on her hand to pretend to like chainsaw stuff with it It's pretty incredible Wow Whoa So yeah, it's amazing what people do with cakes like a lot of times at walker stalker

[00:56:27] When it's one of the celebs birthdays, they'll Have these professional cake makers and like when it was nicolas's birthday michael trunor You know the whole dumpster thing they had a this cake that looked just like the dumpster That's awesome

[00:56:41] Remember we were on we were on stage with melissa and it was was it her birthday? I think and they brought out a clementine hat cake that was really was was really cool So yeah cakes are cool and these ones are especially awesome as well

[00:56:55] You can find more on their youtube channel or cakescove.com And just as a quick side note here guys, I went to cakescove.com and it turns out that this shop

[00:57:06] Is based in toronto and is actually pretty close to where I live like I could ride my bike there Wow It's just weird coincidence. Yeah, so maybe someday i'll i'll go there and tell them or get a chainsaw cake Get a chainsaw cake. Yeah Something like that

[00:57:23] Anyways, we'll have a link to that check it out and that does it for the news Awesome. All right. Let's get into listener feedback Chris you want to go first? Sure. The first one comes from steve brown. Wow great ep shit got dark quick

[00:57:38] Looks like we get to travel to the ash versus evil dead version of the upside down I was glad that the ash versus ash fight did not follow the same way it did before So this is last weeks. Yes, uh, yeah

[00:57:54] Yeah, it it it did sort you know, it did remind me of the upside down I think you said that earlier too jason it from from stranger things. I mean, that's the way

[00:58:03] Just the sort of cynically that you do an altered dimension and you don't have to spend a ton of money Make it the same but boggier All right, uh avalino Rotino says This was for me the best episode of the whole series

[00:58:20] It was the bloodiest and the most serious Aside from the typical ash one liners of which there were only a few this episode was completely serious I think the darker tone reflects just how far over their heads ash and the ghost beaters are in This year's arc

[00:58:37] This is the culmination of ruby's centuries worth of planning and this year She has grown into an adversary far more dangerous than any of the past demons ash and friends have faced before

[00:58:48] I was in true fear of pablo's life and was horrified when brandy took the dagger in the back I like how not all Was as it seemed because there's now a small chance of rescuing the two girls PS just listen to the latest podcast episode

[00:59:03] I just wanted to mention to rich and chris that demon spawn ash grew up eating human flesh like those travelers ruby captured for that reason He was snacking on the students another great edc episode guys. Yeah

[00:59:17] He was that's right. And now that I think about it. I think avalino posted this on the facebook page and I responded to him Yeah, so Um, totally good point. I'm glad he mentioned that because rich you and I totally forgot

[00:59:31] And didn't figure it out in the time, but it makes it's like why was he eating them? It's like, oh, that's what he eats. That's what he does. Yeah, he was hungry Very simple really

[00:59:42] Megan Ludwig writes great episode rich and chris. I really like this episode and have enjoyed where the season is going Even though it has been dark. Thank you chris for putting into words how I felt about the school scene

[00:59:54] Perhaps it's being a high school teacher. Trust me. I get the carry throwback But I was bothered and couldn't explain it rich. You need to get out of junior high and come to one of my high school dances I think she's asking about

[01:00:10] Me anyway love that I'm so excited to see where this goes again. Great job guys Well, thanks, mcgin and I'm glad I could uh I don't know bring something to uh explain not explain, but you know bring something up for you

[01:00:26] um, so I forgot to put this in the in the agenda, but We you know invited all of our listeners to please Send us the recordings of themselves Reenacting any scene from ash receivable dead and our good friend steve brown has taken us up on this

[01:00:43] So I have a file here. I'm about to play. I have not listened to it. So we're all going to get to hear it I'm excited. We cool All right, because you asked for it here goes my best ash monologue It's rosewood hand card by italian artisans

[01:01:05] You know people say you shouldn't put your hand in front of a speeding train Well, what those people Don't know is that sometimes there's an eight-year-old boy stuck on the tracks in a lot of ways He saved me but yeah I saved him from certain death

[01:01:27] 30 years ago to this day But you know losing my clumsy old meat hook Wasn't too big of a prize to pay But I do like to honor it every year By getting blackout drunk Care to join me And that's my ash Little bit of sort of twang

[01:01:54] But anyway from episode one lfa Hope it meets your approval Thanks Yes, steve brown ladies and gentlemen. That was amazing That was cool ash with a twang. I love it. Yep

[01:02:11] Brought it all back. I just brought me right back into that bar and then I remembered what happened next Ash spanking this chick's ass She turns into a deadite. He keeps on going. Yeah, now we need to have a round of pink fucks

[01:02:28] Thanks, steve. That was awesome. You're a brave soul. Hopefully people will realize how much fun that was and sending their own too loved it Next what do we have next week rich? Ah next week is called judgment day

[01:02:43] Uh chainsaw handed demon hunter ash returns to action when elk grove is threatened by a deadite epidemic Pablo's role as brujo especiale has him straddle the worlds of good and evil to keep the rift open for ash to save brandy and kelly

[01:03:00] They've brandy again that seems strange. Yeah Well, she's always gonna be in trouble He just needs saving. Yeah, sounds like a lot of deadites. It's an infestation or something See one thing about this other dimension is I I always assumed that If This

[01:03:22] Was where the evil was coming from then there would be a shitload of like evil demons and stuff in there And we only really saw the shadow monster. So

[01:03:30] I wonder if there's more that we didn't see or if it's just there's a whole bunch of different dimensions, you know Well, I mean, there's all the hands

[01:03:38] So maybe they can like come up or something and or the shadow monster can summon the demon summon the deadites and send them all out But yeah, they they're coming from somewhere and it sounds like there's gonna be a lot

[01:03:49] So that'll be yeah, it sounds like somebody fucked up and all the deadites are coming into the living world Right, right, right. Yeah the rift is being held open for them or something like that

[01:04:01] And oh, you know what else too that I just realized is an open plot line They've been talking about the dark ones coming through and so I think we're gonna see something with that maybe in the finale Oh for sure

[01:04:26] All right, that is it that's our show episode 34. Thank you so much everybody for listening as always If you want to give us a call you can call us at 650-485-DEAD that 650-485-3323 you're running out of time to get on the show

[01:04:41] Hmm, and you can email us at groovy at podcastica.com And you can find us on the web at facebook.com slash evil deadcast or at evil deadcast on twitter And the walking dead finale is coming up this weekend if you're into that show you can find

[01:04:59] My walking dead podcast at podcastica.com you can find chrises at talking dead podcast.com We'll both be covering fear the walking dead which is supposed to be really good this year So there's that All right, that is our show. Thanks for listening