36: “The Mettle of Man” (S3E10)

[00:00:00] How do you feel, Sire?

[00:00:19] Listen up, you screwheads. You're listening to the Evil Dead Cast.

[00:00:32] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast, I'm Jason. And I'm Richard. And I'm Chris.

[00:00:38] And here we are the final episode of Evil Dead Cast.

[00:00:42] Oh, final, the last one.

[00:00:45] What? What? Man, what if there was like a last minute reprieve and they decided to renew

[00:00:53] Ash vs. Evil Dead for three more seasons?

[00:00:56] It could happen, right? It could happen? I don't think so.

[00:01:00] No, neither do I. But why not? Why not stay positive?

[00:01:04] I mean, there's probably a better chance of that happening than any of us winning the

[00:01:08] lotto.

[00:01:09] Yeah, well, we're getting struck by lighting.

[00:01:12] Yeah.

[00:01:13] If it did happen, it would feel like winning the lotto.

[00:01:16] Which one would I rather do?

[00:01:18] Well, when the lotto, I could finance the next season. Maybe.

[00:01:22] That's very true.

[00:01:23] All right, so let's all start playing the lottery guys yet.

[00:01:27] You know what happened to happen.

[00:01:29] Right.

[00:01:30] All right. Well, I would just want to let you guys listening know stick around to the

[00:01:37] end if you don't usually will be saying our goodbyes and thank yous at the end.

[00:01:41] But for now, let's get into our Dead Cast top three.

[00:01:44] Attention shoppers. Dead cast top three. In five.

[00:01:51] Four. Three. Two.

[00:01:55] I saw you so. I saw you so.

[00:01:59] All right, it's our top three highlights for Ashford's Evil Dead season three episode

[00:02:03] 10, The Metal of Man.

[00:02:05] I'm going to start by saying I thought this episode was incredible.

[00:02:10] Yeah, it was incredible. Wow.

[00:02:14] It was pretty high price.

[00:02:15] It was amazing. I was just sitting there going, fucking, hey man.

[00:02:21] This is awesome because it was so big and it had some good dramatic moments and it

[00:02:29] had funny moments and call of acts to the past.

[00:02:31] And then this like totally slingshot into this whole left turn different thing.

[00:02:37] I mean, I don't know if I could have ever expected anything better for this final episode.

[00:02:43] I thought it was awesome about you guys.

[00:02:45] Yeah.

[00:02:47] I thought it was bittersweet to be perfectly honest with you.

[00:02:51] I mean, don't get me wrong.

[00:02:52] I mean, it was like 97% sweet and like 3% bitter.

[00:02:57] But on the one hand, you got it was on the one hand, it was awesome to end with just Ash

[00:03:04] in the final battle.

[00:03:05] But you know, like on the other hand, I missed having the Ghost Speeders there to back

[00:03:08] him up a little bit.

[00:03:10] And there was the end.

[00:03:12] Of course, there was the ending with Ash waking up in the future which effectively brings

[00:03:18] the last three seasons to a close for me.

[00:03:21] I thought I wrapped everything up pretty good.

[00:03:23] But on the bittersweet side of that, you know, now I want to see what happens with Ash

[00:03:26] in the future.

[00:03:27] No.

[00:03:28] Yeah.

[00:03:29] I mean, it was an amazing episode but it totally sucks that it was so good because it makes

[00:03:36] you want more even more.

[00:03:38] Yeah.

[00:03:40] Well, I thought it was pretty awesome too but I couldn't help but feeling a little like

[00:03:47] rich, a little bittersweet about it all.

[00:03:50] Slightly underwhelmed by parts of it.

[00:03:54] I'll be honest with you guys which we'll get into.

[00:03:58] But I think, you know, some of my disappointment or slight disappointment, I shouldn't overstate

[00:04:03] it is maybe just because I feel like this whole awesome thing is over now.

[00:04:09] And I had a bit of a hard time handling that and so I need you guys to sort of help bring

[00:04:16] me back from the edge there a little bit.

[00:04:18] So I thought it was a great episode but kind of sad in a way.

[00:04:24] Yeah, well, I mean, like the last episode, I was thinking about it because I'm like, man,

[00:04:30] I feel really sad about this and just, man, doing this podcast kind of prolongs it to

[00:04:34] tell you the truth.

[00:04:35] But I wouldn't want to do that way.

[00:04:38] But I'm like, is this like, is this normal?

[00:04:41] Like, God, it's just a TV show and then I realized, you know, like when happy days ended

[00:04:46] that was my favorite show for years and it wasn't as good in the end but like when

[00:04:52] cheers when that ended which totally went out on a high note.

[00:04:55] But I felt really sad about that.

[00:04:59] I remember that it was May 20th, 1992 because it's on my birthday just sitting there feeling

[00:05:04] like I got punched in the stomach, you know?

[00:05:07] I remember really being sort of down at the end of cheers to but I can't say I have ever

[00:05:14] had a feeling like I did with the end of this show for some reason.

[00:05:19] Well, like I don't know.

[00:05:22] It's hard to even put into words exactly but like you know when I was the biggest lost

[00:05:27] fan in the fan in the world and that ended and I remember sort of being bummed that it

[00:05:33] was over but I don't remember feeling like this so maybe I just forgot or yeah or this

[00:05:38] is sort of the first time.

[00:05:39] I don't know.

[00:05:40] With lost in particular, I remember just bawling in that last episode.

[00:05:44] Yeah.

[00:05:45] It was really emotional and I did feel, yeah, I felt the same way now that you mentioned

[00:05:49] it.

[00:05:50] I remember having that same thought that I feel like I just broke up with a girlfriend

[00:05:53] now I'm not going to ever get to see her again.

[00:05:56] Broke up with the TV show man, how lame are we?

[00:05:59] Yeah, I'm like, are you sure we can't just keep going on for one more season?

[00:06:04] Yeah, right.

[00:06:05] What about you Rich?

[00:06:06] Have you felt sad about a TV show ending?

[00:06:09] I mean, I can say I'm glad I didn't watch Lost.

[00:06:13] No, no.

[00:06:15] No, no.

[00:06:16] This is kind of a first for me.

[00:06:18] You know, with the podcast you really get into the show, you dissect it, you laugh, you

[00:06:24] cry along with the characters because you get to know them so well.

[00:06:27] So yeah, this is actually a first for me but I don't think it's hit me yet because we're

[00:06:32] doing this now.

[00:06:33] It'll probably hit me next week when I'm wandering around the house going, was there something

[00:06:37] that's supposed to be doing here?

[00:06:39] Yeah.

[00:06:40] There's something that's supposed to watch or talk about.

[00:06:42] When you go to watch episode 11, then you're going to remember that oh, it's over.

[00:06:47] Yeah.

[00:06:48] Yeah.

[00:06:49] We'll just do the podcast next week and pretend we saw an episode and we'll make it up

[00:06:53] together on the spot.

[00:06:55] Wasn't it great?

[00:06:57] Right.

[00:06:58] For the next 15 years.

[00:07:01] It's very art.

[00:07:03] It's like an art piece or something.

[00:07:06] Hey, if people are writing Evil Dead fan fiction, maybe we could just talk about that

[00:07:11] for the next 10 years every Friday.

[00:07:13] Well, right now let's talk about this episode.

[00:07:15] What is your number three Chris?

[00:07:18] Well, I'm going to start with the monster itself, Kandar, the destroyer.

[00:07:24] The monster was one of the things I really thought was amazing in this episode.

[00:07:28] It was a super awesome monster.

[00:07:30] It looked great.

[00:07:31] I love the design of the thing.

[00:07:34] If you know what I mean, like all skinny and bony with these long arms and fingers

[00:07:38] that you wouldn't want to get anywhere near and the thing was huge and it could breathe

[00:07:44] fire.

[00:07:45] And I sort of felt like it was a giant demonic skeleton dragon, which I thought was

[00:07:49] amazing.

[00:07:52] The only thing about it is maybe at first I felt like maybe it was a little bit easy

[00:07:59] to kill because it just took the tiny dagger.

[00:08:02] But then I thought you did have to shoot it out of a tank.

[00:08:05] You know, it really didn't bother me that much.

[00:08:10] So I just thought the monster, Kandar, the destroyer was fantastic.

[00:08:13] The way it looked sort of reminded me of, I don't know what about it but Army of Darkness

[00:08:20] just, it had, it looked, I agree, awesome.

[00:08:24] But it wasn't like big budget movie awesome.

[00:08:27] There was something a little B movie about it, but not in a way that felt that took

[00:08:31] you, took me out of it at all.

[00:08:33] I don't know, I just can't really put my finger on it but it was perfect.

[00:08:37] I thought.

[00:08:38] Yeah, it definitely didn't look like cheap or like a poor effect or something like that

[00:08:43] right?

[00:08:44] But it had the aesthetic of a monster that you'd see in a B movie.

[00:08:49] And I think that's what you're getting at.

[00:08:50] Like it sort of felt like it sort of felt like it was in a movie like that but it still

[00:08:54] looked amazing and it fit within the evil dead universe perfectly.

[00:08:58] I thought.

[00:08:59] Yeah.

[00:09:00] It's like an old King Kong or Godzilla.

[00:09:01] Yeah, you got your monster movie.

[00:09:04] Yeah, cool.

[00:09:05] It's awesome.

[00:09:06] Now we just need to get him in Pacific Rim.

[00:09:09] Did you see the sequel?

[00:09:10] It's not getting good reviews.

[00:09:12] Yeah, I saw it.

[00:09:14] It sucked.

[00:09:15] What about rampage?

[00:09:16] What about rampage?

[00:09:17] I wanted to know if you saw rampage last week or recently.

[00:09:19] I haven't seen that one yet.

[00:09:22] Everybody over here is focused on the new one that came out today or yesterday.

[00:09:27] Avengers.

[00:09:28] Yeah.

[00:09:29] Yeah.

[00:09:30] I saw that.

[00:09:31] Already?

[00:09:32] It's been out for one day.

[00:09:33] I know.

[00:09:34] Nico and I went last night.

[00:09:36] You bastard.

[00:09:37] I got to get there this weekend.

[00:09:38] Really?

[00:09:39] Yeah.

[00:09:40] All right.

[00:09:41] Well, Rich, which your number three?

[00:09:43] My number three was team Williams.

[00:09:45] I thought it was cool to see Ash and Brandy finally working as a team in this last episode.

[00:09:51] I think it's what we all wanted to see because they were both happy.

[00:09:54] Ash was happy.

[00:09:55] Brandy was happy.

[00:09:56] Lots of hugs.

[00:09:57] Lots of smiles.

[00:09:58] You haven't seen that for a while.

[00:09:59] I suppose though, happy is probably a relative term when you're beheading deadites and fighting

[00:10:04] for your life.

[00:10:05] But they were happy.

[00:10:06] And to drive home the point Brandy and Ash, when they were down in the cellar, they

[00:10:11] both killed their respective deadites by, you know, Brandy blowing up its head with

[00:10:16] the Candarian dagger and then Ash wrapping the chain around the other one and beheading

[00:10:20] it.

[00:10:21] And then both of them at the same time getting a full face of blood.

[00:10:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:10:24] Yeah.

[00:10:25] And she goes, what the fuck?

[00:10:26] Yeah.

[00:10:27] They both had their mouths open too.

[00:10:29] That was gross.

[00:10:30] That was an awesome father-daughter moment.

[00:10:32] Yeah, the whole thing when they were down in the, when they were down in the sewers though

[00:10:37] and they were fighting too, I missed the chainsaw though I have to say.

[00:10:41] Missed the chainsaw.

[00:10:42] Oh yeah.

[00:10:43] No chainsaw in this episode.

[00:10:44] It's too bad the chainsaw wasn't there.

[00:10:46] I was going to say that I thought there was a little too much of the sort of family bonding

[00:10:52] stuff before we got to the real action in this episode.

[00:10:55] But I do agree that when they were fighting down by the rift and, you know, they both

[00:11:01] got splattered at the same time.

[00:11:02] I really enjoyed that bit.

[00:11:06] So I'm with you there at least.

[00:11:08] Yeah.

[00:11:09] You know, I thought I liked the family bonding but I thought there was a little much of

[00:11:13] it too.

[00:11:14] And also, I felt bad a little bit for Ray Santiago and Dana de Lorenzo because I think

[00:11:23] the character of Brandy is great and I think Ariel, Carver O'Neal is really cool.

[00:11:29] And so what are you going to do?

[00:11:30] It's a good storyline too but still the introduction of Ash's daughter kind of diminishes the

[00:11:36] characters of Pablo and Carly a little bit from where they were before in the series.

[00:11:41] And so they didn't get as big an ending as they would have probably gotten if Brandy hadn't

[00:11:46] come along, you know.

[00:11:47] And we weren't right in the middle of this Ash and his daughter storyline.

[00:11:52] Yeah.

[00:11:52] I missed having him back in the Ash up.

[00:11:54] That was one of the bitter moments.

[00:11:57] I totally agree with that as much as I love Brandy, I think she did not.

[00:12:04] They didn't quite leave enough room for Pablo and Kelly who've been there from the beginning.

[00:12:09] Yeah.

[00:12:10] And they sort of replaced their bits with Brandy a little bit.

[00:12:13] But it was good to see Kelly being Kelly again like my favorite was when she wakes up.

[00:12:18] Oh, I back alive and looks in the mirror and sees herself all dead.

[00:12:21] What the actual fuck me?

[00:12:24] I look like Keith Richards.

[00:12:26] And then she's like machine gunning that soldier in the face.

[00:12:31] Fuck yeah!

[00:12:32] So that was good.

[00:12:34] Pablo is like yep, now there's two of them.

[00:12:36] Right.

[00:12:37] And then Pablo and Kelly are both helping people in the chaos and they're being their hero

[00:12:41] self.

[00:12:42] So they did give them a little bit to do but it would have been nice.

[00:12:47] Maybe if they could have made this an hour long, they could have had more of them.

[00:12:51] I also want to touch on I think Chris you mentioned killing the creature with a little dagger.

[00:12:59] And it's interesting that it's a Kandarian dagger and it was found in the castle can door

[00:13:08] by Professor Nobi.

[00:13:11] And this dagger has actually proved very important in the series over the years.

[00:13:15] It killed Annie Nobi via Ash's demon severed hand.

[00:13:20] It killed Ruby when she first died.

[00:13:23] It killed then it killed Kelly and Ash and Brandy who all came back.

[00:13:28] And then it's here, it's helping Brandy fight the dead.

[00:13:30] I'm sure there's other things that I'm not thinking of but I also wonder since this

[00:13:38] demon is called what is it?

[00:13:39] Kandar the destroyer right?

[00:13:41] So if it's a Kandarian dagger from the castle Kandar and this demon is Kandar the destroyer

[00:13:46] then I wonder if like the castle is named after the demon.

[00:13:50] And there's just makes me feel like there's a lot of story.

[00:13:52] We really don't even know where this dagger came from all we know is that it was found

[00:13:56] with an economic on and the handles made from human bone and it seems to kill that it's

[00:14:02] pretty easily.

[00:14:03] That's all we know right?

[00:14:04] See, there's so much backstory here we could get into if there was another show or more

[00:14:10] show or whatever.

[00:14:11] Yeah, totally maybe that's where they were headed.

[00:14:15] Right, you never know but they keep that thing around that's for sure.

[00:14:19] Well but that's not my number three.

[00:14:20] My number three is just the big and scary moments in this.

[00:14:24] We already talked about the demon.

[00:14:26] I loved also the jets flying in and the sound that their fire was making it was like yeah

[00:14:33] that was cool.

[00:14:34] That was really cool.

[00:14:35] And the tanks and soldiers and just people screaming and then also yeah their deadites have

[00:14:42] gone global it's cool to see the news reports and I liked you see the evil coming up and

[00:14:49] it attacks the one guy in the street and you just see the reactions of ash and everybody

[00:14:54] oh but then the camera turns right to it and you see the guy his body contorting and

[00:14:59] twisting and then he's turned into a dead eye.

[00:15:02] And it seemed like we got a little more than usual that we see when the evil gets somebody

[00:15:07] like that I don't know and then it happened again later with the soldier which I thought

[00:15:11] was really great and also horrible that it gets this soldier and he immediately just starts

[00:15:16] gunning down all of his fellow soldiers.

[00:15:19] That was creepy.

[00:15:21] Pretty scary, yeah.

[00:15:23] Yeah.

[00:15:24] I think you make a really good point about watching the evil get into somebody because that

[00:15:30] happens kind of all the time but I realized in this episode and I don't know if this has

[00:15:35] been the case since the beginning but every time we saw it in this episode we immediately

[00:15:39] cut two people's reaction of it and they always are cringing or kind of squinting or looking

[00:15:45] away a little bit and I think it just adds to the effect a bit right of trying to imagine

[00:15:51] what it looks like when the evil rushes up on someone and suddenly in them and turns

[00:15:56] them into a dead eye.

[00:15:57] And I think they did it too.

[00:15:59] It's like kind of related to what we were talking about last week with the whole scene

[00:16:03] with Brandy and the shed slash garage where or before that in the house where when you

[00:16:08] hear the sounds but you don't quite see it yet you get a sense that the characters are still

[00:16:12] filled with this dread that just comes with having it nearby and I think there's some

[00:16:17] of that too.

[00:16:18] Yeah, 100%.

[00:16:20] I you know, you never you see the evil's effect on people and when it gets in them and

[00:16:27] now we're seeing it, now we're seeing people reacting to it and it seemed to happen

[00:16:31] so fast with the soldier and with the police officer in the road and just the chaos of

[00:16:37] it all came across really well too.

[00:16:40] People reacting is popular.

[00:16:41] It was like my kids watched that channel on YouTube all the time.

[00:16:45] It's crazy.

[00:16:46] Yeah, YouTube's filled with just people reacting to like a TV show or something.

[00:16:50] Yeah, they're in one of the people react to TV show.

[00:16:52] I guess work.

[00:16:53] I don't know what we're doing in a way.

[00:16:58] But yeah, I thought the deadites were pretty creepy and this down in the sewer.

[00:17:02] I liked, you know, there was just one and then all of a sudden there were all bunch and

[00:17:05] then there were some above them and they're creeping their way down into the basement

[00:17:09] and the rift looked great.

[00:17:11] So I don't know.

[00:17:12] It's just like sometimes, well, I guess on the in the show usually they do a pretty good

[00:17:16] job of presenting everything in such a dark way that it's effective.

[00:17:23] But this episode, if that was particularly effective with all the effects and the horror

[00:17:27] and the scaryness.

[00:17:29] Yeah, you put the last episode in this episode together.

[00:17:33] You'd have a good hour that plays just like a feature film.

[00:17:39] That's an interesting idea actually.

[00:17:40] I wonder, I feel like maybe if they could have done that, put the last two together,

[00:17:45] we cut a little bit to balance out the sort of family emotional stuff a little more.

[00:17:50] You could have had a really solid hour long finale.

[00:17:53] Yeah, this one exactly where the last one left off.

[00:17:57] Yeah, that's right.

[00:17:58] I think they did that at the end of the first season two in the cabin and I think the

[00:18:03] last three were in the cabin and it felt like that could have been a movie.

[00:18:07] Well, more movies.

[00:18:12] That's the upshot.

[00:18:14] Okay, Chris, what's your two?

[00:18:16] Okay, so my number two is possibly a big one.

[00:18:21] But this is about the supporting characters and I mean Kelly, Pablo and Brandy and I don't

[00:18:28] really think I can call them supporting characters because they aren't really part of the main

[00:18:32] cast.

[00:18:35] And this is where I felt a little bit disappointed in things slightly.

[00:18:40] So we've touched on it already but I feel like Kelly and Pablo didn't get as satisfying

[00:18:49] and ending as I wanted for these characters that have been there since the very beginning.

[00:18:56] As we know, Ash puts them in the military truck.

[00:18:59] He closes the door and they do have a little moment, a very quick moment with each of

[00:19:05] them.

[00:19:06] But then they just drive off and they're done and they're gone and they've disappeared

[00:19:09] from the episode.

[00:19:10] And I felt a little bit sort of underwhelmed by that because it didn't feel like a satisfying

[00:19:17] ending now.

[00:19:19] With Kelly, her whole rescue to me felt a little anticlimactic.

[00:19:24] They kind of just bring her body.

[00:19:26] Pablo jumps in, he jumps out and then she's alive again.

[00:19:29] And I know they didn't want to spend too much time on that because we've already kind

[00:19:33] of seen people be rescued from the dead lands.

[00:19:37] But it did feel like they spent all this time getting there and it seemed like it was

[00:19:42] a big deal that Kelly was stuck in there and then it was super easy to just bring her

[00:19:46] out.

[00:19:47] Well, Ash and Brandy fought the deadites in the base.

[00:19:50] Pablo rushed, yeah.

[00:19:52] It was a little rushed.

[00:19:55] But like you said, Jason, they did give Kelly sort of the badass hero stuff with the machine

[00:19:59] gun.

[00:20:01] At the end and I enjoyed watching that.

[00:20:03] So that was okay.

[00:20:04] When it comes to Pablo, I felt like his brujo, a special power was a little bit wasted

[00:20:12] like the whole point of it seems to be so that he could walk through the town with Kelly's

[00:20:18] body without being detected by the deadites or attacked by the deadites or any of the

[00:20:23] demons.

[00:20:24] So to me, I was sort of like, well, it seemed like an awful lot of build up for this power

[00:20:30] of his.

[00:20:31] I'm, I, to be honest, I appreciated his ability to talk through the book a lot more than

[00:20:37] I did sort of what we got in this episode.

[00:20:39] So I was a little bit, that's not all too much power though.

[00:20:42] He also opens the rift and he can go into the rift.

[00:20:47] Yeah.

[00:20:48] No, I, I suppose you're right.

[00:20:50] In the context of this episode, I felt like I think he needed something a little bit bigger

[00:20:56] and more heroic to do.

[00:20:58] And it just wasn't there for me.

[00:21:00] And then they added that bit with him rescuing the little girl who like, am I, have we seen

[00:21:07] her before?

[00:21:08] Is she anybody or is she just a random little kid?

[00:21:12] Submarine kid, not worth rescuing probably.

[00:21:14] Well, I'm not saying not worth rescuing but I'm saying like it felt like it was, it

[00:21:19] felt like it was tacked on.

[00:21:21] So we would feel like Pablo was doing something important.

[00:21:25] Same with Kelly saving that soldier a little bit.

[00:21:28] Yeah, I guess so but I don't know for some reason I didn't mind that as much.

[00:21:34] Yeah, it was a little more organic because he just turned into a dead item or the one

[00:21:40] next to him.

[00:21:41] I mean, and yeah, so that was a little more organic I would say not just because it's

[00:21:45] Kelly.

[00:21:46] Right, that's true.

[00:21:48] So I was a little, you know, I didn't think Pablo quite got the big ending we hope for

[00:21:53] for him.

[00:21:54] And then with Brandy, for me she got the most satisfying ending of everyone and a big

[00:22:01] part of that for in the way I saw it is that they were, they really went out of their

[00:22:05] way in the last couple of episodes to make her more and more like Ash give her that sort

[00:22:12] of personality and you know, as we mentioned, there's that scene where Pablo says, yep,

[00:22:20] there's two of them now.

[00:22:21] So they basically like put it right out in front of us.

[00:22:25] And in the way and when Ash gave her the necklace and she had, she actually had some lines

[00:22:32] when Ash was saying goodbye, you know, in the truck whereas the other two really didn't.

[00:22:37] And so her ending felt the most satisfying to me, but overall as a whole I kind of felt

[00:22:43] like all of those characters were just sort of put in a truck and drove away.

[00:22:48] And that was that.

[00:22:49] So yeah, I mean, I think if they you know, they made this so that it could be a capper

[00:22:56] to the series and I think they did a pretty good job.

[00:22:59] But I think if they really knew for sure that it was going to be the capper to the series

[00:23:05] then maybe they would have given Kelly and Pablo more of what felt like an ending.

[00:23:10] I'm sure they would have, you know, they would have given the whole thing like a definitive

[00:23:14] ending versus well, this could be an ending, but there's also a clearer, you know, continuation

[00:23:19] to yeah.

[00:23:21] And and I think if we knew it was coming back for another season, I don't think any of

[00:23:25] these things would have bothered me at all because you know, they can drive away and be saved

[00:23:30] and we don't see them for the rest of the episode.

[00:23:32] And that's okay.

[00:23:35] But not knowing that this is it, you're right.

[00:23:39] It felt like they were a little bit playing it safe here, but they should have just gone

[00:23:45] for it I think and really sold this as an ending to the whole series and into the characters.

[00:23:51] So, you know, with with Brandy, I do wish though that since they're making her more

[00:24:00] like Ash, I want a Brandy show to be honest with you because I feel like she could become

[00:24:04] the new Ash and just carry it.

[00:24:09] Carry a show.

[00:24:10] I don't think we'll ever see it but it's one of my dreams.

[00:24:14] Yeah, it feels like they were grooming her to do that like maybe burst Campbell thought.

[00:24:20] Well, we'll go another season but even after that if I feel like retiring it maybe I can

[00:24:24] hand it over.

[00:24:25] Exactly.

[00:24:26] Are the fans already speculating something to that effect?

[00:24:30] Or he could if they keep going, he could play like he could be in less of it in a way.

[00:24:35] Like do you remember?

[00:24:36] I don't know.

[00:24:37] I don't know.

[00:24:38] Or X files when when molder stepped away, I mean X files wasn't great after that but

[00:24:42] molder left and he wasn't in it much and they brought in some new characters.

[00:24:46] I'm not saying that's the model to follow exactly but it's kind of the idea.

[00:24:50] You know, the main character is gone and they bring in someone new to fill that fill that

[00:24:54] hole.

[00:24:56] Anyways, that was it just how I sort of was a little underwhelmed by the ending for

[00:25:01] our favorite characters and it's kind of too bad but at the same time it was still awesome

[00:25:09] and fun to watch.

[00:25:11] Yeah.

[00:25:12] When you were going through your number two I was reading my number two and there were

[00:25:16] almost exactly this we touched on almost exactly the same things except mine was reversed.

[00:25:24] I'm going to do the sweet version of it now.

[00:25:29] So I had kind of the same feelings as Chris did but knowing myself and how that would

[00:25:36] kind of put me down, I try and avoid those kind of feelings so I'm going to do the wussy

[00:25:41] thing and wrap up the sweet side of it all see.

[00:25:44] So I was going to read what I got.

[00:25:46] So I got Brandy now.

[00:25:48] I was pretty satisfied overall with her character.

[00:25:51] She's now like a full partner in the ghost beaters right, full fledged.

[00:25:55] We just talked about how she could take over the show.

[00:25:57] Kelly, I thought you know her Pablo saving Kelly was cool.

[00:26:03] She's back which was just about good enough for me.

[00:26:06] I'm like okay we expected her to come back.

[00:26:08] She came back.

[00:26:09] She can even walk even though she broke her leg so that's cool and she still got her

[00:26:14] little bursts of rage which I found cute so that was nice.

[00:26:18] Then we got the Knights of Samaria.

[00:26:20] They were actually in it and they played a key role this time and finally did something

[00:26:24] worthwhile so I was satisfied with that.

[00:26:27] The sheriff, the asshole sheriff that was in the last couple episodes he gets possessed

[00:26:33] and then I don't know if you guys caught it but he got killed by Kelly.

[00:26:37] He was one of the people she'd gunned down at the end there right?

[00:26:40] Yeah, I did see that.

[00:26:42] Yeah and Pablo you know he saves the little girl not really sure what that was all about

[00:26:48] but in my mind to put that sweet spin on it I kind of think that maybe that little girl

[00:26:52] has a future role with the Ghost Beater's.

[00:26:55] Maybe if that was something they were going to head towards in the next series I'm not

[00:27:00] sure.

[00:27:01] And finally we have Pablo and Kelly kissing.

[00:27:05] Oh, that's what we all wanted to see.

[00:27:07] They have a nice kiss maybe hopefully leading into some kind of stimulating morbid sexual

[00:27:15] relationship that involves killing deadites for four play.

[00:27:17] I don't know.

[00:27:20] I'm filling in some stuff here okay but I'm trying to make it sweet so overall I was pretty

[00:27:25] satisfied.

[00:27:26] I enjoyed the kiss too.

[00:27:27] I totally agree with you but my favorite part was Ash and Brandy's reaction to it.

[00:27:32] Yeah, she kind of shied away.

[00:27:35] She said she was making this ridiculous face like alright.

[00:27:38] Oh my god they're kissing.

[00:27:42] Yeah, it was nice to yeah because he kissed her and then she said hi or something like

[00:27:48] that so she was into it.

[00:27:51] Pablo is he Pablo finally got the girl?

[00:27:53] Yeah, though that's good.

[00:27:54] And Rich I do appreciate you being Mr. Positive on this because there's certainly lots of

[00:28:00] good to take away from it and it makes me feel happier that there just is that positivity

[00:28:05] there.

[00:28:07] Thanks.

[00:28:08] Okay.

[00:28:09] Okay, my turn.

[00:28:12] I one of the things I really liked about this was that how shaken ashes and we've seen

[00:28:22] him like this before in the movies in the show.

[00:28:25] We have some but not as much he kind of knows how to handle the threats in the show

[00:28:32] and he's creeped out my stuff but he's really just like cowardly and ashamed here and

[00:28:40] the way that Bruce Campbell plays it.

[00:28:42] I love it.

[00:28:43] So here's a couple of times this is I'm going to play a couple clips.

[00:28:47] This is when they first he steps out of the alley and you see the big demon foot.

[00:28:53] You know right next to him he looks up.

[00:28:56] I think here goes.

[00:28:57] He's right.

[00:28:59] Ash is a demon color.

[00:29:01] So go.

[00:29:02] Go kill a demon.

[00:29:03] Yes I do kill demons but that.

[00:29:06] That thing is bullshit man.

[00:29:09] No way.

[00:29:10] I'm not doing it.

[00:29:12] I just love that.

[00:29:16] That's a pretty natural reaction.

[00:29:21] Look on his face like fuck you dude.

[00:29:24] Out of here.

[00:29:27] Not the best delivery of the line bullshit I've ever heard but it's pretty close.

[00:29:32] And then later when they get back home and he's like saying you know I know great I've

[00:29:42] doomed humanity when they see that on the TV that it's everywhere.

[00:29:46] And I thought is he talking about just because none of this would be happening if he hadn't

[00:29:50] read from the book again.

[00:29:51] Is that why maybe in the.

[00:29:54] So yeah he kind of feels responsible for a lot of this.

[00:29:58] Yeah he let it out.

[00:30:00] Always been around the zone and.

[00:30:03] But anyways then he sits down in his chair and he says this.

[00:30:08] Yeah well you know what?

[00:30:13] Not like I didn't tell him Pablo how many times you heard me say this huh?

[00:30:17] Why me who am I?

[00:30:20] Nobody nobody guy from.

[00:30:23] Look close to me as you can.

[00:30:24] Where the fuck is that the middle of jack shit nowhere that's where.

[00:30:28] You know what?

[00:30:29] I got news for you.

[00:30:30] I didn't ask for this.

[00:30:32] You think I want this horse shit?

[00:30:33] Be covered in blood 24-7 who the fuck would want that?

[00:30:40] Savier my ass.

[00:30:42] Oh my god damn failure.

[00:30:48] Don't say that.

[00:30:49] Hit it we're still in this.

[00:30:52] We got Kelly's body.

[00:30:54] We need to save her.

[00:30:55] Yeah why so she can die with the rest of us?

[00:30:57] So she can die with the rest of the human race.

[00:31:01] Enough.

[00:31:02] That's it.

[00:31:04] That was good because when he says he's a failure it goes from being kind of funny to being

[00:31:09] like ah right.

[00:31:11] Yeah it does.

[00:31:13] It's I am that the when he says a goddamn failure is the moment in that monologue that sort

[00:31:19] of that stuck out for me because it's it's ash having a serious moment of doubt right.

[00:31:26] He he doesn't want to do this.

[00:31:28] He doesn't want to take any responsibility and he just it's almost like his he suddenly

[00:31:33] sees that his whole life has come to this and he can't act at least not yet anyways.

[00:31:41] And you're right it was it was kind of depressing to hear him say that I thought but it was moving

[00:31:46] yeah up to me.

[00:31:47] But it was moving yeah it was moving.

[00:31:50] And I did you know the next bit where Brandy knocks the beard of his hand and gives this great

[00:31:55] emotional speech about not letting her down.

[00:31:58] It's kind of what brings him back and she says we're going to show the world what a Williams

[00:32:02] can do and then suddenly ashes back on board and after the ball it was all yeah well

[00:32:07] there was that too but I the emotions were all over the place with the characters and

[00:32:13] I think with the viewers or you know they will be so yeah I have it's a little bit of an

[00:32:20] issue with Brandy's go get him speech but I think this is it's a personal pet peeve in

[00:32:27] my opinion I think that like like okay when I'm contemplating like the supernatural reasons

[00:32:35] to just to buy you know to justify my fate and the cosmos I hate it.

[00:32:39] And whoever I'm talking to says well that's just the way it is that's just because it really

[00:32:46] contributes nothing in the conversation like when Brandy said ash I don't know why evil

[00:32:50] chose you but it did so man up or whatever she said I didn't really buy that but you know

[00:32:55] that was a personal pet peeve thing.

[00:32:57] Jesus that sounds pretty pretentious doesn't it maybe you can edit all this out Jay.

[00:33:04] Well the thing is that we don't we still don't really know why ash is the chosen one or whatever

[00:33:14] and Pablo says this is it ash everything that's been foretold the necronomicon you destiny

[00:33:21] it all comes down to this moment it's the final test hefe and then you know even in army

[00:33:27] of darkness they thought he was it was foretold in prophecy he was the one who shall deliver

[00:33:31] mankind from the chair of the deadites and then in the future this android girl calls him

[00:33:37] what did she call him the savior and I was like I remember you know in evil dead too you see ash

[00:33:46] in the book with his chainsaw and then he went back in time and I always just kind of thought okay so

[00:33:52] he's not really the chosen one he went back in time and then they wrote him into the book but then

[00:33:59] that's not true because an army of darkness the necronomicon already existed and I guess he was

[00:34:05] already in it even then right I don't know but I guess my point is we still don't really know why

[00:34:12] he's the chosen one except that he's the protagonist of this of this series right and that clip

[00:34:21] that you played I kind of found it more like a confession really than anything else because they

[00:34:25] just watched the TV which said it had spread globally you know confused me a little bit because that

[00:34:31] means that ash did fail right I mean he's chosen one he can't yeah I suppose to stop all that I

[00:34:38] think he was supposed to rather prevent it from happening in the first place actually that's a

[00:34:44] really good point I hadn't thought of it like that I was sort of thinking along the lines that

[00:34:47] Elk Grove was the epicenter of it all and if he could kill hand are the destroyer then maybe

[00:34:54] everything else would just kind of fall after that but yeah maybe not maybe he was supposed to

[00:35:01] prevent it altogether and he failed yeah because he killed that big giant demon but there's dead

[00:35:08] it's all over the world and we see at some point in the future it's post-apocalyptic and there's

[00:35:14] the dark ones are on the move and also the dark ones are on the move in the current time right like

[00:35:18] they they we didn't right I don't remember what happened last episode but I think they're still at

[00:35:23] large and we didn't see yeah yeah and ash is just gone for several years while they're doing

[00:35:28] whatever so apparently mankind still was able to progress because they have this like futuristic

[00:35:35] robot chick in this car with these you know engines that look like they're from the Millennium Falcon

[00:35:41] or whatever in the back so but uh yeah I think yes he killed the giant demon but there was a lot of

[00:35:48] shit that was still happening it was bad yeah lost well I don't yeah I don't and I don't feel like

[00:35:56] there was there would have been anything he could do about it after that well maybe if he was a

[00:36:01] better man he could have done his job I'm just kidding I don't know if he had a thousand of those

[00:36:07] daggers if you had never read from that book that damn book right oh that's the whole thing uh is

[00:36:15] it my you know I'm still in the middle of it so just I was talking about how emotional and dramatic

[00:36:20] this episode was and other parts are when yeah he he's going he goes okay fine I'll go do my thing

[00:36:27] and or even when he told his his uh brandy not to take after him and and take his bad habit so I

[00:36:34] thought that was kind of cool like she wanted to smoke from the bong to and he's just being good

[00:36:39] father and then he wants to go fight and she wants to come with them and he's like you're my daughter

[00:36:43] you're part of me that was just really earnest and uh later she's says you know hey I'm sorry I

[00:36:51] didn't get to know your story after this well I want you to tell me and the way he's even just one

[00:36:58] word he just said deal it wasn't hurt it was like yeah okay good good we'll do that

[00:37:04] I don't know I'm just saying it just felt more um sincere I guess a lot of this yeah

[00:37:09] felt more sincere it's cemented they're they're it's cemented team Williams together

[00:37:15] yeah I think one of the most incredible things they did with Ash in this whole third season was the

[00:37:23] the relationship with his daughter and the sincerity to it and the emotion to it that's

[00:37:28] again I think I've said before who would have thought they would be able to do that with a

[00:37:31] character like Ash but yeah they pulled it off yeah I was afraid Ash wouldn't be as funny

[00:37:37] with that but it turned out he's even funnier I mean there were less jokes but just stuff about him

[00:37:43] trying to be a good dad and throwing in this really inappropriate stuff because he doesn't know any

[00:37:47] better or uh I thought it was just just as funny yeah really worked up his facial expressions too

[00:37:58] okay uh let's see Chris number one okay well my number one is final scene um I have

[00:38:06] so many questions about it and I it just makes me wish so hard that there was there was more coming

[00:38:15] because you know Ash wakes up in this unknown location he's been he's in this box this orange box

[00:38:24] I want to know how far in the future is this uh it must be pretty far because we have a woman

[00:38:29] who's like half cyborg and I'm pretty sure you can't do that these days um so it just felt like

[00:38:36] such a such a tease of things to come and part of me was so disappointed that we're never going

[00:38:42] to see that um and the she even said you know when they get in the car I'll explain while we drive

[00:38:50] yeah I thought to myself oh my god this is a conversation I want to watch more than anything I've

[00:38:55] ever wanted to watch in my life and and I started trying I started playing it out of my head and

[00:39:02] and I thought all right what if all they needed was another 60 seconds in this episode and Ash

[00:39:07] and this woman are driving and she gives him like a 60 second colds notes on what when how all of

[00:39:14] the things that got them to where they are right that at that moment and then she she finishes

[00:39:20] telling him whatever it is with the same question she asked him at the end of this episode how do you

[00:39:24] feel and then Ash can answer the same way but he's doing it while they're like driving across the

[00:39:31] the apocalyptic landscape instead of just sitting in the garage I'm like that's all it would have

[00:39:35] taken and I would have felt so much more satisfied um I don't know I think you'd want even more after

[00:39:42] that yeah I think you might leave him leave it a mystery well look I am a big proponent of

[00:39:48] the concept of leaving them wanting more right you go to a rock and roll show and they're not

[00:39:53] going to get anymore well I guess yeah well leave people wanting more because they'll come back right

[00:39:58] if a band only plays for 30 minutes but it's the best 30 minute set of music you've ever seen

[00:40:02] you're gonna walk away happy and I'm I did walk away happy from this but part of me was just like oh my

[00:40:08] god this like I want to see this show so bad and um I just have so many questions about what the hell's

[00:40:15] going on here that I'm never getting the answers too so when I watched it through a second and a

[00:40:21] third time um I I feel like uh I feel like I I almost loved and hated this final scene all at the

[00:40:31] same time even more so you know as amazing as it was it kind of just made me feel a little bit

[00:40:38] frustrated and I don't know if I'll ever fully be able to come down on one side or the other on

[00:40:43] this one and you know maybe that's an okay thing maybe that kind of reaction is is good because I'll

[00:40:49] never forget it that's for sure it's like when you go to a strip club and you don't you just leave

[00:40:54] frustrated because you don't get everything you wanted yeah because it's you leave more than

[00:41:01] you went in with it's all right there in front of you but you just can't have any other

[00:41:07] then you have to go home and cry you have to go home you are beautiful wives and I and on that note

[00:41:16] I think this and oh by the way if I was your other co-host Jason I from talking to that I think

[00:41:22] I would point out that she's not half cyborg she's all cyborg well wait a minute what's

[00:41:29] the definition of cyborg someone who's robot robot right yeah okay I guess I guess she is a cyborg

[00:41:37] you're right right I guess if you're half cyborg you might just be robot I don't think there's

[00:41:42] any such thing is yeah okay I get it but anyways she I think she's the hottest whatever we've

[00:41:49] ever seen on this show in my opinion she was all human from the top half and a little more robot

[00:41:58] in the bottom yep she had a word counted parts of her were all human

[00:42:09] all right they left the best parts there all right Rich what was your top thing yeah my number

[00:42:16] one was the same the ending so Chris summed it up well kind of like a ditto a couple of things I

[00:42:24] wrote down was he cracked me up to to kill the giant you know monster boss in the monster boss

[00:42:34] fight there were the ending for me started you know he uses duct tape to tape the canarian dagger

[00:42:41] to the shell at securing canarian dagger to shell casing to kill 60 foot demon to its list of

[00:42:49] uses right they were they were and then we're in the future and ashes all cleaned up but he was

[00:42:54] looking pretty darn good I like the gray streak in his hair now a little call back to the movies

[00:43:00] what was that yeah I didn't get it I forgot it seemed familiar it you know when you get really

[00:43:05] scared you get a little gray streak oh okay there's a call back to the rogue rogue from the X-Men

[00:43:12] remember she has a gray thing or whatever through her that's what I thought of yeah meaning

[00:43:17] less than yeah then we had the the delt 88 was back that was cool brought all the mad Max it was

[00:43:24] badass man had all the armor and guns on it had a super charge up front and then just for good measure

[00:43:30] a rocket turbine on the back yeah I didn't have some comments about the cyborg too I was like he's

[00:43:37] not going to be complaining about his new friend there she got some nice hooters he says he says

[00:43:44] okay what's going on where's my daughter and she says I'll explain to you while we drive the

[00:43:50] dark ones are on the move and then the best part of all was the end we get the classic ash line

[00:43:56] groovy yeah yeah you do a pretty good groovy there Rich but I didn't mention the car in all of it

[00:44:05] and I do think it was awesome it was super fun to see the whole the the mad Max version of the

[00:44:11] car that was pretty great that's a trip to it was like it was in the very original movie and now

[00:44:17] it's in the last scene of the very end of the series yep I wonder how I think Bruce can I think I

[00:44:25] read Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi were like planning out the story for season four in case they got

[00:44:29] to do it and with the budget of a show like this I wonder what kind of things they would have done

[00:44:36] I mean maybe it would have been a lot of just scorched out and you know wasteland kind of stuff

[00:44:45] yeah go shoot go shoot in the desert or something and you know I wonder if they would have

[00:44:50] been able to continue shooting it in New Zealand yeah desert New Zealand or probably something

[00:44:57] like yeah sure yeah and then I'm and there could have always been returning back to the present time

[00:45:02] too that's I'm that's right they tease this and then he wakes up and he's still an outgrow

[00:45:08] of and everything's fine I mean like I didn't really understand what happened so he killed the

[00:45:15] demon can dar and it fell down on the tank dead and then he was in a days and whispering people dragged

[00:45:25] him away and you can see one of them had a nights of Samaria ring on and then they put him in a

[00:45:31] case and then next thing you know he wakes up in this futuristic look like suspended animation chamber

[00:45:39] and yeah that's it so yeah but why like why did that happen oh here I'll say what I think happened

[00:45:48] yeah I think they were hiding him because the dark ones were on the prowl looking for him so

[00:45:52] they had to hide him until they get out of you know to recharge you know to recharge and regroup

[00:45:57] and then bring him back and then maybe right he got lost or something because it was pretty far

[00:46:01] in the future but yeah that I think that's a great theory they're hiding him away for some reason

[00:46:07] yeah they were they were keeping him there and I think they woke him up he didn't just like wake

[00:46:11] up randomly one day they've been hiding him and now is the time to bring him back because he's

[00:46:16] got something important to do to add all right we'll say that sounds good it settled in okay my

[00:46:26] number one is nods to the past and there were a lot and and I'm really happy just looking over it

[00:46:32] this whole season that even though they change showrunners and I think probably change some riders

[00:46:38] that they still paid respect to the beginnings of the series in a little ways like when he looked at

[00:46:46] Pablo and said your L hat fe now it's just you know Pablo's called him that the whole time

[00:46:52] and by the way that was a little confusing he he tells Kelly these people are gonna need someone

[00:46:57] to lead them and that's you and then he says you're a lefay now which also means leader

[00:47:03] yeah I was looking at these about that too I just sort of feel like maybe ash doesn't realize that

[00:47:07] yeah he was high he doesn't realize it but then he referenced wrestling he said oh you're

[00:47:17] oh yeah it's like cane game yeah wrestlers have good have bad come on keep up and that's what I

[00:47:25] thought that's yeah and I love that they connected on that because in the pilot Pablo had said to ash

[00:47:31] in the you know convenience store whatever hey oh man why don't you come over some Monday night raw

[00:47:37] which is a WWE thing so it feels like something that they used to do together before the games came

[00:47:44] the big bald will not big but this first bald dead eye spreading his arms out and rising up

[00:47:52] and then he goes dead by dawn dead by dawn that's a blast from the past

[00:47:58] the necklace that he gave to Brandy to keep her safe was from evil dead and evil dead too

[00:48:05] that he gave to his girlfriend Linda and he used it to grab the nebriker nomicon at one point but

[00:48:12] also he like looked at it as when he got possessed one of the couple of times the ash got turned into a

[00:48:18] dead eye to look like and he was like oh like kind of sad looking at it and it the thought of her

[00:48:24] brought brought him back so it's like there's some power in that necklace that was cool yeah I

[00:48:30] thought then I thought the necklace was a really nice touch actually this because it's been around

[00:48:34] since the beginning and it's actually played a small part in all this stuff and then

[00:48:39] handed off to his daughter was a really nice nice bit I think I remember most about the necklace

[00:48:45] was in the movies remember when they found it on the ground and he picked it up it was in the shape

[00:48:48] of the skull that was cool I don't remember no neither do I that sounds cool yeah that was back in

[00:48:56] the movie and then the last is at the very end they bring back the song space truck in which was

[00:49:03] from the pilot to and also the intro to this podcast yeah yeah that was cool and it's more

[00:49:11] appropriate because it sounds kind of futuristic everybody thinks smoke on the water is the best

[00:49:16] song that Deep Purple ever did but it's that one that's it's what about notes cool I liked it

[00:49:26] when he got he jumped into the tank but he's looking around sorry how do I drive this thing right

[00:49:31] he's like oh it's just like the arcade game battle zone I was like from 1980 that's a great

[00:49:37] reference that's a good game yeah and it's his time frame yeah right yeah I thought calling

[00:49:43] them with that game I thought calling Kandar a bag of assholes was a pretty good insult in the

[00:49:48] middle of yeah and then when he read then the face he makes at the end after giving him the

[00:49:54] finger when he realizes that you know it's coming right for him was pretty full oh oh oh

[00:49:59] I like yeah even in the tank too when it grabs him and it's it's he's all going upside or

[00:50:05] then EA looks through the viewfinder and he does yeah oh it's like he's constantly surprised at

[00:50:13] what he's seeing you know that he causes yeah yeah exactly one time when Brandy's like dad what are

[00:50:20] we gonna do how are we gonna fight this thing ash says maybe it'll just go away

[00:50:31] do you guys see the at the beginning when they were all in the alleyway and the sheriff

[00:50:36] rims out there and he gets possessed and we're like oh shit we gotta get out of here now run off

[00:50:41] and they left the poor guy it's in the wheelchair they're by himself yeah I didn't see that

[00:50:46] oh my god yeah he opened the splash screen for the beginning there that's right that's right I

[00:50:51] didn't think of that either but that's that's terrible when you think about it they run away

[00:50:55] and the poor guys left there oh my god I know actually I'm chosen one I mentioned when ash came

[00:51:03] out of the alley and saw the demon above him but I forgot with the first thing he said was oh yeah

[00:51:09] right I got a crack to smile when after all the emotion and Brandy's speech ash was like all right

[00:51:25] let's do this and then he tried to get out of the chair yeah yeah he needed help getting out of the

[00:51:30] chair and there was some like heavy music and it looked like I thought did he get like stabbed

[00:51:36] in the spine or something and no he just has to be helped up a little and not even that much just

[00:51:40] just a little yeah I thought that was gonna be a thing in the episode like he heard his back

[00:51:46] and now he's even more hobbled and he won't be able to fight the thing as well but it was just

[00:51:51] played for a joke another old joke about him being old yeah exactly I think Jason I think you

[00:51:57] mentioned it or one of you did we just went kelly is like point blank shooting the dead eyed soldier

[00:52:02] in the face I just liked how basically there was nothing left of his head at that point she's

[00:52:07] just screaming and shooting straight at him that was a fun scene when he when he points at his hand

[00:52:14] he's saying I'm from nowhere in the middle of Elk Grove Michigan that's because Michigan's kind

[00:52:20] of shaped like a hand yeah pretty good I feel the same way about my town for the record you know

[00:52:30] I made a note here too that they don't do many wardrobe changes in the show everyone was wearing

[00:52:35] the same thing they did like four episodes yeah Brandy's been wearing that prom dress for half

[00:52:39] the season now and it's getting more and more tattered too which was cool kelly has that kind of

[00:52:45] lacy evil chick outfit on right yeah ashes had the same outfit on for 30 years

[00:52:53] and anything else uniform in an outfit I'd say yeah super hero yeah I think that does it for me

[00:53:03] yeah me too all right that wraps our coverage of the last episode let's take a little break there is

[00:53:09] more to come stay with us

[00:53:40] come

[00:53:50] me all right it's time for some evil dead news and there's not too much because really all the

[00:53:57] news is about the show being canceled but what I've got here is that Bruce Campbell you know

[00:54:05] shortly after the news came out that the show was canceled he made an official statement

[00:54:10] that he is retiring from playing ash and we kind of knew this was coming already but Bruce has now made

[00:54:16] it official and here's his statement I'm gonna read the whole thing it's a couple of paragraphs but

[00:54:22] if you haven't seen it you need to hear it so Bruce wrote good people evil dead fans everywhere

[00:54:28] I bid you a heartfelt farewell playing ash the character I took acting lessons with for 39 years

[00:54:34] I'm hereby retiring from that portrayal it's time I followed ash from his formative years through

[00:54:40] his midlife crisis and decline what a thrill what a privilege we had a great resurgence with the

[00:54:46] help of stars kudos not gears folks they made it possible for 15 more hours of evil deadness in

[00:54:52] your life the equivalent of 10 more features is ash dead never ash is as much a concept as a person

[00:55:00] where there is evil in this world there must be one to counter man or woman it matters not thanks for

[00:55:06] watching love Bruce so that's pretty nice and you know he obviously loved playing ash and he

[00:55:15] obviously loved doing it again with on stars I mean and that last bit about when there's evil

[00:55:22] in the world there must be one to counter man or woman it makes me feel like Brandy could have

[00:55:27] taken this up and become the next ash it also reminded me of course of the movie with a female

[00:55:34] lead character from five years ago but it just proves that this is a this is a franchise and a story

[00:55:40] in a character that probably could live on if they really wanted to wanted it so yeah and that movie

[00:55:47] fed a alvarez did had really had a good evil dead aesthetic and it makes me hopeful that they will

[00:55:54] continue some this on in some way somehow yeah and that's kind of what Bruce is saying it doesn't

[00:56:01] have to be ash doesn't have to be him as ash but they could they can do something so

[00:56:06] yeah he uh he's been like yes saying on twitter retiring guys thank you but somebody started a

[00:56:12] petition to keep it going and he's like I appreciate it but and he uses half hashtag other fish to fry

[00:56:19] something like that yeah it was time time to fry some other fish is what it was okay yeah um bloody

[00:56:25] disgusting they published an article titled how can or here's how you can let Netflix know

[00:56:32] you want them to pick up ash versus evil dead and uh they point out that Netflix has a title request

[00:56:39] page where I guess you can go and fill out a form and make a suggestion for a show for them to

[00:56:45] to start or to buy and put on Netflix um so yeah I guess we could do that if we wanted to but they

[00:56:51] also make an interesting claim in the article that uh season one and two of ash versus evil dead

[00:56:58] has been watched quote a lot and quote on Netflix they don't give a source on that but they seem

[00:57:04] to know that it's been or claim anyways that it's been watched a lot well we haven't had a real

[00:57:11] urgent call to action I don't think ever on this podcast but I'm gonna say I'm gonna go find that

[00:57:18] page and put it the URL in the show notes and I would love it if everybody that can hear me right now

[00:57:24] would go do that just for the hell of it you know like I feel like Bruce Campbell right now is kind

[00:57:28] of like a political uh someone who people want to run for president and he he's saying no no no

[00:57:34] he just needs enough people to yeah to do it so why not let's let's all throw it up there and see

[00:57:41] if anything happens sure it could we have to lose what are we exactly nothing to lose and

[00:57:47] if if it doesn't mean ash versus evil dead comes back it might just convince them that there's

[00:57:52] enough interest for something and as we were just saying it could be anything we'll see um but this

[00:57:59] whole response to this was sort of the first mention that Bruce had that uh he was retiring because

[00:58:07] once this article went up he tweeted out a response big props to the fans for the effort but I'm

[00:58:12] retired as ash and that's where he put the time to fry some other fish hashtags so that's kind

[00:58:17] of where the retirement news came out originally and then he put out that other statement I read so

[00:58:22] he's retired at least for now um Dana was interviewed a pretty extensive interview uh I came across

[00:58:33] this on channel 3000 dot com and again we can post a link there's plenty of stuff in this uh

[00:58:40] interview about her while obviously on the show but also going to conventions and her childhood

[00:58:48] and her parents and the other roles she's played so it's a pretty long interview but a couple of

[00:58:53] quotes here just regarding ash versus evil dead in general and and the cancellation she said

[00:59:00] I think everyone involved in making this show mentally prepared that every season could be our last

[00:59:06] there's a lot of competition out there more so than ever and in this era of television the longevity

[00:59:11] of any show is especially unpredictable I think we all treated every episode and every season has

[00:59:17] our last but in the best way I can only speak for myself but whenever an episode or scene was

[00:59:22] particularly epic like the colon fight in season two it was hard to imagine how it could ever be matched

[00:59:28] let alone topped but I think we pushed ourselves to a new level every season and I believe that's a

[00:59:33] result of treating each one as if it was our last so they put they put it all into everything uh

[00:59:39] everything they did it sounds like and then just regarding the possibility of characters dying on

[00:59:45] the show she said it was all made very clear to us before we started shooting when we were told

[00:59:51] just so you guys know you won't know ahead of time if your character is going to die you're going

[00:59:55] to have to find out with everybody else and none of you are safe hmm so there wasn't a lot of

[01:00:01] character death on the show in the end but it sounds like they were told to expect it at some point

[01:00:08] interesting that's kind of mean I mean I wonder because you know I came to the show a huge walking

[01:00:16] dead fan having gotten used to that show for years where they would kill off main characters a lot

[01:00:21] or prominent characters and uh so I was kind of looking at it through that lens thinking okay either

[01:00:28] Pablo or Kelly could could die and that's that's okay because it's a horror show but as the show

[01:00:33] went along I realized that's more of a comedy and you know I feel attached to the characters and

[01:00:38] I think it would actually be bad for the show to kill them off and I kind of wonder if the writers

[01:00:42] maybe went through that same journey too if they've maybe thought when they first started it that

[01:00:46] that they might die off and then realize that no it would hurt the show to do that yeah I 100%

[01:00:52] agree with that I sort of been in thinking the same thing but it didn't take me very long to realize

[01:00:57] that I don't think this is a show where characters are going to die or if they do there's a good chance

[01:01:02] they're going to come back yeah you know even even the best shows in the world take take a little while

[01:01:09] as as as little as a few episodes or sometimes a couple of seasons to to um to find sort of

[01:01:17] find their style or to fall into what they're going to be and that's no different with this right

[01:01:23] you you start a show based or in the evil dead universe and you think it's gonna be one thing

[01:01:29] but then it turns into something else and then you might not have even wrote really ever

[01:01:34] anticipated that and it's better than you can imagine so yeah that's true the only red shirts in

[01:01:39] this show were the deadites and the nights of Samaria oh yeah so anyways that's a that's a pretty

[01:01:49] good interview with her I'll I'll we'll get that link up for you if you want to check out the

[01:01:53] rest of it um and then I may have mentioned this before but speaking of Dana everyone should go

[01:01:59] check out her Twitter feed because there's some pretty good stuff on there she posts behind the scenes

[01:02:05] photos and information and recently there has been a bunch of tweets about her receiving that

[01:02:13] women in action award that we talked about last week she went to the awards ceremony and there's

[01:02:18] a bunch of pictures of her there and she has the award and stuff like that so if you're into

[01:02:22] that at all I would I would recommend checking out Dana's Twitter feed it's I am Dana DeLorenzo on

[01:02:29] Twitter so I let her I let her M yeah so check her out she is she's pretty active and pretty cool

[01:02:37] on there if you want to follow what she's doing cool and that'll do it for the news for now

[01:02:45] and for good I guess for now and always okay cool here we go with our listener feedback

[01:02:51] a section I had asked you guys on Facebook and Twitter to write in and let us know your thoughts about

[01:02:59] the show the series the podcast you know any final thoughts and so this was going to be a longer

[01:03:05] listener feedback section than we've ever had before first we actually do have a few just about

[01:03:10] last week's episode which was uh what happened the big demon came out of the ground at the end

[01:03:19] and the dark ones and Ruby dying and all that rich when start sure we have a lower south she writes

[01:03:28] in it was such a scary episode the only funny thing was the dead-ite cell phone which was genius for

[01:03:34] sure but so scary yeah I enjoyed that dead-ite cell phone a lot and that was that's still that whole

[01:03:42] sequence is one of my favorites on the whole show um Megan Duke writes I just wanted to say how much

[01:03:50] I love this episode not as much funny I know that's been a discussion before but I don't care it

[01:03:56] was like a movie I heard about the official cancellation but I think they had a pretty good idea

[01:04:01] it was going to happen that's why they shot this like a movie it looked so good uh they through all

[01:04:07] their budget into these last couple of episodes to make it epic as shit and have you seen the trailer

[01:04:14] for the finale it gave me chills so sad it's over but so pumped for the last episode it's bittersweet

[01:04:22] it is yeah Megan yes it is avalino rochino says my soul wept when I heard the news about ash

[01:04:29] for zeal dead being dropped but at least this last season has been the perfect finish this episode

[01:04:34] was another exciting one with a little more humor loved it the fight between brandy and her phone

[01:04:39] was classic evil dead with the angles and effects why does the tool shed at ash's dad's house look

[01:04:45] exactly like the one in the cabin love droopy's death maybe ash's dad built both that's why that's

[01:04:52] why I'm gonna say yeah love droopy's death and I can't wait to see the sniff series finale

[01:04:59] hmm sad face yeah at hit the snake right sin I think you guys missed in the latest episode when ash said

[01:05:09] that the door knob was sticky after looking at the newty lady magazine written by hit the snake

[01:05:19] he had to write it yeah I thought he said the floor was sticky not the door knob but either way

[01:05:27] either way something was sticky all right we got a call from steep brown

[01:05:33] hey guys loving the podcast I just wanted to say a couple things about judgment day

[01:05:39] before the big finale and I'm sure I'll have something to say about that one um Dalton's voice over

[01:05:46] at the beginning of episode you guys didn't mention that uh we can't get away from that guy hate him

[01:05:52] um you didn't mention the the line where ash says that he doesn't get hangovers that was that

[01:05:58] was pretty good um and there was a lot more comedy in this episode than then I remember and I'm

[01:06:05] glad you guys pointed out some of it to me because I just thought it was all just dark but

[01:06:11] one of the main things I think I've loved about this show over the last three seasons is

[01:06:15] the unlikely things that they have fight scenes with like a magazine a puppet the car

[01:06:21] and in this case the cell phone anyway I don't want to take too much time so uh love in the podcast

[01:06:27] talk to you guys next week uh this is Steve from local home oh one more thing I'm not gonna lie

[01:06:33] kind of glad you guys are stuck like us waiting for a week for the finale

[01:06:41] did we tell him uh yeah wait that didn't happen yeah yeah we were we were totally stuck

[01:06:47] yeah yeah that was the only cool thing about that would be that we would have gotten to get your

[01:06:51] guys feedback on the last episode which we won't but uh yeah they they ended up sticking it up

[01:06:56] there early so here we are Friday night recording this um thanks for your thoughts Steve as always

[01:07:05] uh we got another scene reading from this time Vincent Yanis so here we go

[01:07:12] okay look forget this time quick enough we might have time to stop for churros that's not a racist thing

[01:07:18] Pablo that's just a great dessert you know I'm not mixing right yeah that's the spirit

[01:07:27] god that was great that sounded like Steve Buscemi yeah it did that's right

[01:07:33] I think that's funny because I don't know but I would bet that Vincent Yanis is Mexican

[01:07:38] yeah yeah no you know that that reminded me of one thing I thought was great in this episode and

[01:07:47] didn't come up is when Ash drives the tank over Pablo's uh food and computer stand yeah

[01:07:55] that that felt like an ending to me you know the thing gets destroyed and a little never come back

[01:08:01] and he said sorry I think sorry Pablo yes sorry Pablo exactly okay now we got some comments

[01:08:08] about the show ending I'm gonna play a couple calls first and then we'll read some emails so this

[01:08:12] first call is Chris Fuentes hey guys there's Chris from New York I love the show and I'm gonna miss

[01:08:21] you guys I'm gonna miss Ash was evil dead and I'm just calling in to say that they were Ash versus

[01:08:27] Freddie versus Jason comics like two volumes of them they're pretty fun and that I hope you guys

[01:08:34] get to see the evil dead musical and get to talk about it before this podcast is over all right

[01:08:40] see you guys on flip side if we see it I don't think that's gonna happen what seeing it we'll see it

[01:08:50] maybe I don't know I kind of feel like we should come back and do like a top 10 for the series but

[01:08:58] I don't want to commit to that because we don't know if we're gonna do it might be cool right anyway okay

[01:09:06] man thank you for calling in let's see we have one more that's Jake Potter hey guys name Jake

[01:09:13] Potter uh huge fan of the evil dead movies and I just wanted to say how disappointing it is

[01:09:19] because you're left a showdown canceled uh I love the podcast and love what you guys have done

[01:09:26] yeah and just can't really say how much of a bummer it is that it got canceled even though we

[01:09:33] all saw it coming so uh keep up the good work on the evil dead podcast um last episode whatever you

[01:09:40] guys can do and uh keep up the good walking dead work on that podcast as well talk to you guys later

[01:09:47] bye cool thanks dude thank you okay now we got some messages and emails

[01:09:54] remejo our friend remejo writes in I love this series and everything evil dead so much for how we had

[01:10:00] the mix of screwball comedy and horror you didn't you didn't have to take it too seriously but there

[01:10:06] was still great writing and jokes to be had despite being a girl I love the dirty guy humor

[01:10:13] and the imaginative ways they gave us the gore and you three I love the easy relationship you have

[01:10:20] and your ability to make a listener feel like we are all in a room together talking about a show we love

[01:10:24] I'm more comfortable with guy humor and you guys always left me cracking up and I will miss that

[01:10:30] as much as I miss watching the show thanks guys for doing this podcast and I'm sorry it's over for

[01:10:36] you because it's clear what big fans you are it's something that brings a fandom together mourning

[01:10:41] the awesomeness that's having to the last goodbye jures fellas hashtag hail to the king

[01:10:49] very cool now I'm starting to get sad I know it's hitting you oh okay my turn I think

[01:10:59] Megan Guschalak says I'm really hoping that the podcast stays up so that fans catching up can

[01:11:04] still enjoy your episodes yeah we'll leave it up for for a while I don't at least you know

[01:11:09] I don't have any plans to take it down anytime soon um Thomas Chapman writes in ashes to ashes sad face

[01:11:18] the evil dead franchise has been one of my top favorites since like eighth grade

[01:11:22] I used to buy evil dead stuff at sun coast video back in the day excuse me and it was sweet

[01:11:29] I even painted the army of darkness posters in high school when I watched the first episode

[01:11:34] of ash versus evil dead it felt like being home again after a long trip the humor the horror

[01:11:40] the gallons and gallons of blood fast forward to the series finale at least the penultimate series

[01:11:47] our episode I still get the same feeling watching the dead eye cam chasing brandy last week was

[01:11:53] amazing I'm going to miss the show immensely and we'll continue to wave my evil dead flag thanks

[01:11:59] to everyone involved in this podcast and all the others at podcastica after reading this I sound

[01:12:04] like a weirdo but it's cool no it's it's extremely cool I think you know

[01:12:11] painting the army of darkness poster back in high school that's awesome yeah very cool

[01:12:18] all right Tina Carrari writes I don't know what makes me sadder the tv show ending or this podcast

[01:12:25] maybe you can find other reasons to get together after the show ends maybe doing other Bruce Campbell

[01:12:30] rewatches I was thinking that because on our walking dead podcast we keep going during the break

[01:12:41] and sometimes we watch horror movies so during one of those the three of us should get together

[01:12:46] and do something love it too I'm always in the court cool yeah

[01:12:50] um Derek O'Neill says I'm really sad to see the end of ash for zevil dead it paired so well

[01:12:57] with walking dead humor and horror and equal measure made me love the series yeah it because

[01:13:02] walking dead is so earnest and and ash for zevil dead felt like dessert sometimes

[01:13:08] I'm sad more my friends that love the movies never got into watching ash live I looked forward

[01:13:14] to the evil dead cast each week particularly the first two seasons as you recap the best comedy

[01:13:19] moments and couldn't stop laughing thanks for all the fun and laughter over the last three years

[01:13:23] yeah that was one of the most fun fun things about doing this just getting together and having a good time

[01:13:30] kind of just recapping what we loved of usually about it and yeah you know

[01:13:35] you were melting the jokes yeah so funny uh Phil Heights this entire franchise has meant the absolute

[01:13:43] world to me from a kid first catching evil dead to late night screenings of army of darkness and now

[01:13:49] to share ash versus evil dead with friends and family this has been amazing as my emotions flood my

[01:13:56] senses I am so grateful to the entire evil dead squad for keeping us riveted and in stitches for nearly

[01:14:02] 40 years I am hopeful we have more to laugh love and share in the very near future my throat has

[01:14:10] tightened in a wide array of memories flood my mind I love this and live for this let's give them all

[01:14:16] one more moment as fans to know how much we really care hey good looking get out of my jazz

[01:14:21] I have also loved your podcast you guys did a hell of a job you know thanks man forget sending people

[01:14:28] to the the Netflix page to request it we just need to send this stuff to the producers yeah

[01:14:35] and be like look look at what people are saying about about evil dead and what this franchise means to

[01:14:41] them how dare you take it away I wonder I'm pretty sure and I hope that they are getting a lot of

[01:14:49] feedback but they just can't reconcile that with the low ratings you know that they know that

[01:14:54] the people who love it love it a lot I hope yeah they probably do all right Matthew rep writes ash

[01:15:02] versus evil dead has been one of my favorite franchises since middle school after decades of the

[01:15:08] fabled evil dead for not happening I assumed the evil was dead then stars came out with ash

[01:15:15] versus evil dead and it was everything I had hoped for watching one of my favorite characters

[01:15:20] adventures and then listening to your podcast was more than I could have asked for I'm sad it's

[01:15:25] over but it was all a hell of a ride if you aren't ready to give up the pod quite yet you can always

[01:15:31] talk about the various evil dead games comics or even the musical yeah we gotta see that musical man

[01:15:38] I know I know I do want to see it for sure do it if you can from row and get splattered yeah

[01:15:42] I saw it years and years ago when it first debuted and it was fantastic and and I know what played

[01:15:47] here last year again but I didn't have time to get to it but if it comes around again I'm gonna

[01:15:52] definitely do my best to get there but you guys should too totally Christina spinny says I'll never

[01:15:57] forget having absolutely no plans on Halloween hanging out in my parents house and watching the

[01:16:02] premiere it brought me so much joy I didn't even care that I was a loser hanging out at their

[01:16:06] parents house with no Halloween plans will miss you ash plus ghost beaters I really love I've

[01:16:15] been meaning to say this that that it was such a dumb name the ghost beaters and it kind of

[01:16:21] disappeared but then it started to come back and then now ash just calls them the ghost beaters yeah

[01:16:27] I love that so weird too it's like ghost busters why does that sound so much better than just

[01:16:33] ghost beaters it's weird all right Jason jokai he writes in I hope the show gets picked up by

[01:16:43] another network it's too good to just kick into the curb yeah it sure is JJ I used to work with

[01:16:49] JJ with Jason so I'm excited that he's listening all right avalino roshino writes thank you sam

[01:16:58] ramie and Bruce Campbell for bringing us the evil dead universe and ash Williams I've been a big fan

[01:17:04] since first seeing it in my parents basement on our old vHS player back in the late 80s after waiting

[01:17:09] 30 years for a sequel I was not disappointed at all following the adventures of ash Pablo and

[01:17:15] kelly as they fought ruby and her demons for three great seasons this last episode is going to make

[01:17:21] me really sad and the evil dead universe's tales will finally conclude but I'm still thankful

[01:17:27] to have been a fan you three have this hit you three have hit this out of the park with the evil

[01:17:33] dead cast as an enjoyed listening to you as much as watching each episode rich please try to guest host

[01:17:40] on either jacens or chris's podcasts as it would be nice to hear from you ever once in a while

[01:17:45] thank you all oh no I'm even sadder so nice everybody's so nice there's a scale over Richard's head

[01:17:53] just going yeah thanks avalino yeah that's nice yeah I would love rich rich was on walking dead cast

[01:18:02] back early when we covered evil dead too I think that was the only time yeah kind of think of

[01:18:08] something else non-bursed camel related yeah two years ago well rich you don't watch walking dead

[01:18:14] right I have not seen very many of them I've seen maybe 10 episodes okay all right at hit the snake

[01:18:23] is back he says ash versus evil that has been a win for those of us with more interest beyond the

[01:18:28] cookie cutter everything predictable shows it was a pleasure to see the evil dead story continue

[01:18:33] and season three made the last 10 weeks of college more manageable for me as well I owe my

[01:18:38] degree to Bruce Campbell wow that is that is quite something he should tweet that at Bruce and see

[01:18:43] what he has to say about it all right Tarkis writes in love the show and always looked forward to your

[01:18:51] podcasts you always provided new insights into each episode gonna really miss it all cool and

[01:18:59] Ellis comic writes I enjoyed your coverage of the series almost as much as the series itself

[01:19:04] thanks for the recaps and the laughs at bring back boomstick says been listening to the podcast

[01:19:09] since the evil dead one coverage ash versus evil dead has been my favorite show for three years now

[01:19:14] and it's irreplaceable agreed Richard Lee Higgins writes it's a truly sad day what are they thinking

[01:19:22] how could they possibly come to this conclusion all right and I think finally here Jessica Schmidt writes

[01:19:33] hi guys looks like I have no choice but to write in it's now or never I just wanted I just want

[01:19:39] to say that the original evil dead movies defined a lot in my life my parents are horror hounds

[01:19:45] and I was exposed at a young age growing up my mom and I would rent a horror movie at least once

[01:19:50] a week it was our bonding thing I saw the evil dead movies when I was a kid not exactly sure when but

[01:19:56] definitely younger than 10 wow I think the mixture of slapstick and Gore is what captured my complete

[01:20:03] focus and admiration needless to say these are my favorite movies and always have been I'm a huge horror

[01:20:10] lover now and I've all started with ash and the deadites now I try to see everything Bruce is in

[01:20:17] it's hard to get ahold of some of his work and I read all of his books and I'm definitely or

[01:20:22] and I'm infinitely grateful that this show was ever made nothing makes me feel so happy and nostalgic

[01:20:28] the way this show has it's like going into an emotional time machine and being able to experience

[01:20:34] something the way I did as a child which is to say fresh and pure and completely enamored

[01:20:40] I tried to listen to a couple of other ash versus evil dead podcasts after I finished the first

[01:20:45] season as soon as it ended I needed more I had no one to talk to about it that is until I was able

[01:20:51] to show it to my mom she loves it of course and I was feeling empty I was left feeling empty the

[01:20:57] others I listened to sucked ass and when I found you guys and felt instantly like I was hanging out

[01:21:03] with my new best friends I just wanted to thank you for doing this and making me feel like I had

[01:21:09] someone to discuss my favorite show with you have you have to be a special kind of person to

[01:21:15] appreciate this show fully and I think that all of you are just that catch you on the flip flop

[01:21:21] that was nice very nice thank you Jessica that's wonderful thank you and uh boy evil dead before

[01:21:28] you 10 that's pretty cool yeah Jessica as a keeper totally thanks all you guys for writing in

[01:21:38] yeah that's it for listen your feedback now it's time for next week on ash versus evil dead rich

[01:21:42] what do you got for us uh

[01:21:49] fun yeah

[01:21:54] not long yeah it's a bit sparse

[01:22:08] all right that is our show thank you so much for listening everybody um I just thought we need

[01:22:16] to say a little word about podcast I want to thank both of you guys this podcast has been really

[01:22:21] special because hey I get to do it with my friend Richard who I've known since seventh grade and we

[01:22:26] watched these movies when they first came out and Chris it was really fun to actually do a full-on

[01:22:31] podcast with you and get to know you better and I thought it was a great team up with you guys

[01:22:36] and also it's been I've done like five or six or some odd number of podcasts and this one

[01:22:43] was special because it was just fun I laughed more than on anything else I've ever done and

[01:22:48] it was kind of carefree so it was a good experience yeah I think the humor is what we all felt in love with

[01:22:55] same here thanks for inviting me to do this it's been great uh and Chris it's been yeah it's been

[01:23:01] awesome getting to know you I think we have a pretty good uh uh repertoire together we seem

[01:23:07] to be able to talk pretty good together and uh thanks again and I'd like to thank Bruce of course

[01:23:12] you know he's given us uh 37 years of ash and couldn't have done it without him no we certainly couldn't

[01:23:19] uh um but I I just echo that rich what you said I mean it was it was really fun getting to

[01:23:25] to know you and and you know we got together in Atlanta last year and that was really awesome

[01:23:30] and uh yeah Jason man this this was a great idea I'm glad you decided to do this and I really

[01:23:36] appreciate that you you asked me to come on and and do it as well because I think podcasting with

[01:23:41] you has been super fun and and something we should have done a long time ago really I mean when

[01:23:47] you think about it but it's just been great and as sad as this is sort of to come to an end here um

[01:23:53] you know it was it was so awesome I wouldn't try to for anything yeah rich like you you'd never

[01:23:59] done a podcast and now you haven't now it's over and you have nothing to show for it are you glad

[01:24:04] your time doing this I am you know I was just thinking about that before we started it's like

[01:24:10] I bought one of these uh what is this a snowball a blue snowball microphone it was like

[01:24:15] 35 bucks and that was it I used my old ear buds to listen to it and uh 35 dollars for three

[01:24:21] years of offs awesomeness is I think one of the best deals ever pretty good you go mind well spent

[01:24:27] yeah right well I also want to thank uh Jonathan and Derek at daily dead they publish us each week

[01:24:35] on their website if you haven't checked them out you listening you guys listening I would do it

[01:24:39] it's dailydead.com they're a horror news site they've got you know just pop culture horror news

[01:24:45] and interviews and features and things like that right at the alley of anyone who's in into all

[01:24:50] this stuff um yeah I want to thank the others who have appeared on the podcast Spencer our friend

[01:24:55] Spencer was on a couple times Karen and Rema Jo and I think that's those the only guest hosts

[01:25:02] that we've had and then we had Ariel Carver O'Neill, Ray Santiago, Dana DeLoranzo, Lucy Lawless

[01:25:10] and the man himself Bruce Campbell so thanks to all those guys for playing a part

[01:25:16] god that is so cool we practically had him we practically had everybody

[01:25:19] I know yeah I feel yeah very happy about that uh I also want to thank the listeners who have

[01:25:27] written in and that is Laura Steve Jessica John Jamie Mark Tiffany Derek Avalino Stewart

[01:25:35] Santos Steph Scott Mike Terrence Terry Phil Eric Matthew Elizabeth Chris grippy Bob Susan Vince

[01:25:42] Megan Tim Michael Jean Jason Rob Shane Anthony Nick Martha Biance Justin Jeff Adam Bernard

[01:25:49] Tygia Christian Rina Hoyt Matt Bryan Amy Sally Kobe Leon Paul Thomas Darrell Tina Katie Patricia

[01:25:57] and Moe Fabo I think that I got them all but if I miss anyone I'm sorry and also just thanks to

[01:26:03] everybody else who was listening that's why we did it because of you guys Jesus how does this thing

[01:26:09] get canceled oh man you guys yeah like I said I want the three of us to do something at some point

[01:26:20] again so at the very least we'll go on walking dead cast and cover some horror movie or something

[01:26:25] like that but in the meantime as always if you want to listen to me you can go to podcast

[01:26:30] toka and I'm on the walking dead cast I'm on doing Westworld right now Legion and uh what was

[01:26:37] the other one oh yeah I asked for his evil dead I know there's one more and you're at talking

[01:26:44] dead podcast dot com yeah that's where we get all our so it's we've just got to number 376

[01:26:52] thanks oh damn wow pretty cool yeah they're funny I recommend you check out Chris and his other

[01:27:02] co-host is also named Jason and they're really fun and fun fun fun to listen to well thanks man

[01:27:10] all right you guys feeling pretty groovy yeah a little bit sad but groovy okay I'm on three

[01:27:17] let's give it a groovy one two three groovy

[01:27:27] sure I could have stayed in the past put it even been king

[01:27:36] but in my own way I am king held to the king baby

[01:27:47] you