547: "Coming Home" Listener Feedback

[00:00:00] Hey Zed Heads, welcome to the podcast. I'm Jason. And I'm Lucy. And we're going through your feedback for The Walking Dead, Daryl Dixon, season one, episode six, Coming Home. Which I'm like, that was a show right? Daryl was on. Was that a dream? Daryl was in France.

[00:00:56] There were a beautiful Parisian dream. Acid blood zombies. An annoying child. It does seem like a dream. That part seems real. Yeah. Right. I want to give a shout out to all the Zed Heads who met up in the Boston area this weekend

[00:01:11] we had such a good time. We rented an Airbnb in situate mass, which is like an hour outside of Boston and we're closer to an hour and a half. It was a blast. And a few people who

[00:01:25] are, you know, just kind of listening but not really involved in all that Patreon stuff came out on Saturday and met with us and they were a pleasure to talk to Tammy, Dodie, Dina,

[00:01:39] and I'm 90% sure Dan, possibly Dave, but I think Dan. He was a great guy too. They were all great. So it was really nice to meet you. I'm glad you all decided to come out. That was awesome. Oh, that's great. I'm so sorry to have missed you all.

[00:01:52] Yeah. Wait, I mean, your name came up quite a lot over the weekend. Nice. I like to hear. Because Alex made Zed Head specific cards against humanity cards. And the question was, what did Rick whisper into Jenner's ear? And somebody answered hashtag horny for Hornsby.

[00:02:10] I bet that's what it was. A couple of things before we get started, the Fear the Walking Dead roundtable rant for season eight, episode seven is out. We actually watched it together over the weekend

[00:02:30] and Mark, we didn't know, but we were all just sitting on this big couch watching and Mark took a picture of us and showed us later. And if you zoom in on people's expressions,

[00:02:41] they either look like really bored. I think Wendy's just got this big yawn. Veronica has like perpetual eye roll and you zoom in on me and I look fucking pissed. I'm going like this. It's so funny. I mean, it is hot garbage.

[00:03:01] Yeah, it's very appropriate. Nobody looked happy. So then we went upstairs and did our roundtable rant actually around a table with like seven or eight of us. And it's just a

[00:03:13] quick one. So if you want to hear our roundtable rants, you can sign up for Patreon at patreon.com slash Jason Kabasi. Is it worth it? Probably not. But if you want to hear it, it's there. I find it fun.

[00:03:24] I should post that picture up on Patreon too just for the hell of it. And last we have our rewatch. We're gearing up for the rewatch. I can't believe it's actually just around the corner. We're going to be recording for The Walking Dead Season 1 Episode 1 Days Gone

[00:03:41] By in just a couple of days here and the episode will be out on Halloween. Very spooky. So that's what's next. Do you have a Halloween costume? I do not. I'm not a big Halloween person. I don't really do fancy dress.

[00:03:54] I do it like once every four years or something. But I did dress up. We had a costume party this weekend and I busted out my old Rick Grimes costume. So that was pretty fun. Excellent. And the boys last year, they were Mario and Luigi, right?

[00:04:09] Yeah. And Bodhi wants to be Luigi again, but I'm like, I don't think it's going to fit, man. Aww. We'll see. Anyway, we got so much feedback because it's the finale. And also, you know,

[00:04:21] there was a week in between. So a lot of you guys sent stuff in. So let's get to it. By the way, I would love to make a new one of those that I just played with new zombie

[00:04:34] sounds in honor of the rewatch. So if you guys want to start sending in some zombie sounds again, you might get yours in there. That sounds like a good deal. First up, we have Tij Matil who says, Carol!

[00:04:47] Carol, yay! I guess that means he likes it that Carol's there. I think so. There's a lot of exclamation points. It's not Carol! Josh Lewis says, Season 2 now, please. We'll see what we can do. Sam Lowe says, Great season. Goddammit. I hate Laurent. I mean, no arguments.

[00:05:09] Sam was there this weekend. She was zombie Barbie, which was Oh, amazing. Very terrifying. Nils Cordes says, Wouldn't it be cool if instead of The Walking Dead, Daryl, Dixon, Season 2, we would get The Walking Dead, Carol, Pelletier? And that had been

[00:05:26] the plan all along. Well, it is the Book of Carol, right? As far as what we've heard. It's her book. It's her book, Nils. Let's see what happens. Liza Hawkins says, Is there a world where Laurent and Isabelle come home with Daryl

[00:05:41] and that last scene isn't about Daryl choosing to stay, rather it's about him choosing to bring them? I mean, Liza, I'd like to see that world. I'd love to see Laurent under the tutelage of Father Gabriel, but will we? Well, he can hand her over to Carol. Yeah.

[00:05:57] Hand him over to Carol. I mean, she could tell him about the monsters in the woods. And the flowers possibly. No, that's awful. But other people have suggested that he might take Laurent to the US and I'm like, I don't think he would do that because there's all

[00:06:19] these people in France who think Laurent is the second coming of Christ and it wouldn't make any sense for him to take him away. Yeah, like why would Daryl kidnap the kid? You know, unless Laurent's like, I want to come with you, please. I don't like it here.

[00:06:36] Daryl! Les etats uni! Judas could do better France-wise, just saying. Is it mine? Yeah, Steve Barr. Steve Barr says, you know how people say in The Walking Dead that the walkers aren't the real problem but the people are? Now I know that they meant Laurent. Anyways, thanks

[00:06:56] for covering the show, Lucy and Jason. So let's recap what Laurent did. He followed Daryl out because he loves Daryl and he didn't really say, he just said, Daryl! Yeah, while like a million zombies were behind him going, raaah!

[00:07:13] I brought you some zombies! So I guess he just really didn't want Daryl to go, right? He was making one last plea for him to stay. That's what we assume. He's like, you forgot your angel wing vest!

[00:07:29] I read a theory that like, he wasn't actually there, it was Daryl visualizing him and I'm like, that old twerp was there? Sure of it. Danielle Dementio says, I really, really liked it. The whole opening battle was fantastic.

[00:07:42] I loved the walker attacking another walker. That was awesome. I feel like Daryl should just take Laurent with him back to the US, but he won't. Let me ask you, what if Daryl had said at the end of The Walking Dead finale, I'm gonna

[00:07:54] go out and see the world and find out what's out there. And then, you know, we show him a little bit later and Judith had followed him out there and he's like, she's like, Daryl! Would you be like, that little twerp? She sucks.

[00:08:06] I'd be like, angel, angel child, angel abandoned girl. She's doing the right thing. That's what I thought. That's because you know Judith would handle herself. Like she'll have got there by like kicking ass and taking names.

[00:08:21] Judith was taught how to do that and Laurent wasn't and it's not his fault at all. It's not his fault. But also like, man! Theresa Harper says, I loved it. You can clearly see how torn Daryl is about leaving. Yeah,

[00:08:39] ridiculous. I don't know about everyone else, but I think I saw sparks when Daryl and Izzy looked at each other. Carol at the end, chef's kiss. Perfect season finale. I'm glad you liked it. I did too.

[00:08:53] Megan Harvey says, so am I the only one who thought Laurent showing up at the end meant Daryl was taking him with him back to the US versus Daryl staying? Because I also interpreted Daryl finding his grandfather's grave as confirmation he couldn't die there in France

[00:09:08] like his grandfather died. Just food for thought. I mean, I hadn't thought of it that way, Megan. I don't get it. Why would seeing his grandfather's grave be confirmation that Daryl couldn't die in France like his grandfather did? I mean, he can't die anywhere, so.

[00:09:23] No, you're missing, Megan, is Daryl literally cannot die. Yeah, yeah. Like I said, there were a few people who thought that he might take Laurent back. Here's our first call. It's a shite souvenir. Sorry. Here's our first call from Jonathan.

[00:09:45] Hello, Jason and Lucy. Well, aren't we the lucky few? Who would have thought that the Daryl Dixon spin-off would be the best action drama since Andor? The art direction, the locations, the set pieces. This was a series made by people at the top of their game who

[00:10:03] cared. The cinematography just kept getting better and better. The gladiator scene was so good my heart was actually pounding from those big baseball swings and exploding skulls, severed limbs to some of the most agile and dangerous zombies we've seen in a long time.

[00:10:21] Norman Reedus outdid himself and there was a great supporting cast. There were twists and great villains, sacrifice, deep themes, world building and an ending to remember. But most importantly, it was about Daryl. He was the star of the show and who the story

[00:10:37] was about. And it had a look and feel that elevated it to greatness. But we were not done. Of course, Carol turns up in the final episode with a walk on for the ages. The Walking

[00:10:49] Dead just rebooted itself and we have Rick and Michonne waiting in the wings. Can't wait. Jonathan's always great but I especially love when he's really into something and then just calls back with that enthusiasm and descriptive prose about it. It's so good. Amazing.

[00:11:11] I'm glad you liked it, Jonathan. Yeah, I would think you might dig a show like that the way Daryl turned out. Because he likes when heroes are heroes, you know? And also, I don't know,

[00:11:23] it was just good. Well done. Jonathan wrote in after that said, PS to my voice message, I was surprised at the concern over RJ and Judith as they're only alone due to real world actors leaving the show and the Rick movies not being made rather than something in-universe.

[00:11:40] And Daryl's responsibility for them is mostly just a writing convenience. So I guess the writers of Daryl Dixon show didn't feel obliged to help paper over people leaving the show. I mean, I see what you're saying, but you have to, well, you don't have to,

[00:11:55] but I think of it as far as the story goes too, even though you're right that it's other background events that have shaped how the story's gone. I still think about, but what is that in-story? What's the in-story explanation for this? And am I satisfied with it?

[00:12:15] Because if, I mean, they kind of had an impossible situation to deal with, but a lot of times when something happens beyond the writer's control, if they're really good, they can turn it around and take advantage of it and make something great out of it.

[00:12:29] But anyway, either way, I still can't just be like, oh, well, that had something to do with something outside. So I'm not going to even consider what it means for the characters or something like that. You know what I mean? Am I rambling?

[00:12:44] Oh yeah. I mean, poor Judith Grimes, victim of contract negotiations. Her mom wants to do movies, her dad nearly did a movie, her brother didn't agree to a good cut. Like, man, sucks. I mean, they chose to have Daryl looking over these kids knowing that he was going

[00:13:03] to have a spinoff. They didn't have to do that. No, that's true. You know? So they knew that he was going to leave them and they could have had Ezekiel looking over them or something. So I don't think it's totally just because of the outside

[00:13:19] influence stuff. I think the writers took it in that direction and they took it in this other direction and it didn't quite make sense for the characters as far as I'm concerned.

[00:13:26] I guess they kind of handed them off to Ezekiel at the end of The Walking Dead proper, but it wasn't explicit, I suppose. Like, there's no doubt they're safe and things like that. It is just kind of the Daryl of it all.

[00:13:39] I mean, it's just like if he's choosing to stay in France or he's tortured over whether he should stay in France because this kid needs him, well we know he already chose to leave

[00:13:50] Judith and RJ with Ezekiel or whoever. So it's like, why would he choose to leave Judith and stay with Laurent? That's the natural question that comes up. And does that make sense? Laurent, who he's known for three weeks or whatever.

[00:14:07] Exactly. Randy Stevenson, on the other hand, had a thought about Daryl's torture scene. I think casually telling a story or talking is a tactic used in torture. It gives the victim the impression that the torture isn't phased by what they're doing. At least that's been

[00:14:23] my experience as a ruthless soda don. As for the finale, I love the subtle callbacks to Merle. Daryl tells Quinn to follow his lead in the arena, which is what Merle said to Daryl in

[00:14:34] the governor's arena. Then a few minutes later, Daryl has to cut off Quinn's handcuffed hand. Seeing a handcuffed hand must have reminded Daryl of Merle and their shenanigans in the early days of apocalypse. Sorry, Randy, the way you phrased that. I've just got this image of him like,

[00:14:51] folding a hand like, my brother. Every time, you know, every time I see a handcuffed hand lying abandoned, I have really tender thoughts. So. Yeah. So the thing about casually telling a story is a tactic used in torture. Like,

[00:15:13] I don't even care that I'm doing this. That actually, I think helps with the idea too, that this guy that he was torturing, I say murdering, but anyway, didn't speak English. I mean, didn't, yeah, didn't speak English. Because you could even just tell, even if you

[00:15:29] couldn't tell what Daryl was saying just from his tone, that he was just casually telling a story in between the stabs, you know, so that could make it a little more like, what the fuck is

[00:15:38] happening here? I mean, I remember once when a principal took me and another kid to the office, I think we were fighting or something. And it was like third grade. So I don't really remember. But

[00:15:48] he took, he sat there, he sat us down. He first, he put his hand on our necks to push us to the office and held on a little tight. And it scared the shit out of me, right? Then he sat us down.

[00:16:00] And then he sat there and he undid his lace of his shoe. He took it all the way out. And really, yeah. And really sit back up. And I was like, well, what the fuck is happening here?

[00:16:12] Is he going to do something with that? And I think he knew, you know, looking back on it, that we were freaked out by it. And then he just said, don't, don't fight anymore. And that was it.

[00:16:22] So yeah, exactly. So messed up. Yeah. For kids. But it's sort of, it's similar. Do kids get hit at school in America in like the 60s, 70s? Not that I think you went to school

[00:16:35] in the 60s, but like before that was corporal punishment. I was born in 71 and they sent a note home asking for permission to spank you if you were bad. And my mom signed it and said yes. Jason's mom.

[00:16:53] So yeah, I don't think they do that. No, they absolutely don't do that anymore. As far as I know, they were still, I think it stopped in like the 80s here, but I can swear to it.

[00:17:05] It's mad to think that was a thing. Yeah. Pretty much messed up. So Andrea Hatfield Olmsted, also known as Annie says, Hey, I really enjoyed the finale for the most part. I did expect more

[00:17:18] about the virus to come out and Jenae's backstory, but maybe season two. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Good point. Hopefully season two, come on. So excited Carol's back and I hope she talks Darryl into

[00:17:28] coming home. I was yelling, no, Darryl, no get on the boat and meh, why not just bring Izzy and Lauren if that's what it takes? LOL. I still think there's something romantic about to happen

[00:17:39] between Darryl and Lauren. Just kidding. She said Isabel. Also Andrea, geez. No, I'm just kidding. Also those vicious walkers would make for a great defensive mechanism once they get the perfect injection. Lastly, what amazing effects seeing the one zombie eat another and it is insanely

[00:18:01] twisted and I can't wait for more. I feel like we didn't talk about that on the main pod, but yeah, seeing zombies attack each other quite the, oh no we did because we talked about Quinn's reaction.

[00:18:11] No, that was the head exploding zombie. We've talked about just briefly mentioned one rip the other guy's jaw off, but I don't, he started eating him. I didn't even notice that honestly.

[00:18:22] Yeah, but it was absolutely wild. I was like, this is because they don't go for each other to like the whole thing is like you're masked by the smell and then all of a sudden that's

[00:18:33] not a thing anymore. That's right. The guts thing might not work with these. You know what I mean? That trick might not work given what we just saw there. Make you even tastier. My favorite thing

[00:18:45] though was the zombie ripped the other guy, the other zombies jaw off and then Jenea gave that scientist a dirty look. I don't know why that makes me laugh. Arden Ridmaye, I love the name Arden. I have a friend called Arden and I really like that name,

[00:19:04] says enjoyed the season and really liked the pod. At the end it reminded me of Dunkirk when the small boat set off to rescue the British troop from the beach. Oh yeah. If I recall correctly, the cemetery at Omaha Beach is arranged alphabetically in sections. Oh cool. Okay,

[00:19:19] so maybe that helped Darrell find his grandfather's grave. He can't read so I don't know. Don't look like a man who can read. Oh, that was somebody else. This is a photo I took of the grave of my grandmother's cousin at Yigavine

[00:19:33] Cemetery at Beaumont Hamel. I left him a pair of grey socks. We will remember them. Oh wow. So it looks like it reads, believed to be in the cemetery buried Newfoundland 955 Private M.M.C. Mahaney, Royal Newfoundland Regiment, 1st July 1916, age 23,

[00:19:57] Newfoundland. Arden that's amazing. Yeah. Wow. So young and so early in the war as well. And it's pretty cool to find that. That's incredible. That you're connected to. I'm amazed that they were able to kind of bury them in such a respectful way. That's incredible.

[00:20:18] Also, it is handy to know that it's alphabetical so maybe next time Darrell's back if he takes a beat he'll be able to see that it's… Just calm down and… Yeah, at least his surname doesn't start

[00:20:28] with a Z or something. Actually Z would be fine. It would be like the middle ones, like your M's, your mix and your max, you know? Yep. Thank you for sharing that Arden. That was awesome. Yeah, that was great. Here's a call from Nick from New Jersey.

[00:20:43] Hi Jason and Lucy, it's Nick from New Jersey and I'm calling regarding your car's extended warranty and season one of Darrell Dixon. Now I'm going to try to rapid fire this off because

[00:20:52] I've tried to record this a bunch of times and I can't get it short but okay. So I have some positives and negatives. Negatives, at first it seemed very similar to The Last of Us,

[00:21:00] too many parallels. The scene where Darrell ran up on the American guy who was sniping, it seemed like a shot for shot of when Joel ran up on that other guy who was sniping

[00:21:09] in the show. I didn't like that so much. I didn't like the fact that Darrell fired the musket right next to the horse's head when they made a point in season 10 to show that horses get spooked when a

[00:21:22] princess fired the machine gun with Ezekiel, Eugene and Yumiko and the horses just sped in the other direction. It didn't make sense how the horse didn't blink when Darrell shot it right next to

[00:21:32] its ear but okay. Also I didn't really like the character motivations at first for the show and the writing at first seemed a little bit off like Fear the Walking Dead but as it went on things

[00:21:45] started to make more and more sense and you got more character insight for Darrell and why he might be acting the way he's acting with information that we didn't get previously in The Walking Dead, about his father and grandfather. I really loved the scene with his grandfather because

[00:22:01] it could have been stupid like oh there's his grave right there but I loved how it was like Darrell searching and searching and searching for a while and he says maybe it's here, maybe it's

[00:22:09] here and then he finds it and it's just a beautiful moment like cinematography. That's not a word but whatever. Also Isabel, it didn't make sense how she would go out and put up the posters at the

[00:22:22] beginning like the first episode and took Darrell in but then anytime we saw her outside of the abbey like with zombies or whatever like she would immediately get cornered by a walker like did

[00:22:34] not know how to take care of herself couldn't take out the walker. It was like girl I thought you were better than this like I really thought Isabel was gonna be like much more of a badass

[00:22:42] much of a badass as Carol but like at least know how to kill a few zombies because she said I didn't need a knight in shining armor but then every time Darrell or even Laurent had to kill

[00:22:52] a zombie for her. And then for my positive I just wanted to say that the series overall exceeded my expectations. I wasn't really expecting as much for it at first but it really

[00:23:05] came through at the end and I wasn't sold on J'Nai as a villain at first like he was just menacingly holding a baby and then I guess gave the baby back. I don't know because they didn't

[00:23:14] show what happened next but I liked how she when Darrell threw the head at her she just had that angry little smirk but barely let it show. She's very much the type of leader who wants to remain

[00:23:26] appear very controlled and very in control in general but you can see her bursting at the seams and you can see the anger coming from her and I would love to see more brutality from her

[00:23:38] and hopefully with Qadran captured in season two we get to see her being super brutal and torturing him or whatever to show how crazy bad she is. And overall yeah the show is fantastic

[00:23:50] ending can't wait to see Carol in season two and yeah I wish I had time to say more but I don't so bye! Thanks Nick for respecting that three minute thing I said a while back but that was a great

[00:24:02] call though you had a lot of good points. I love that. He mentioned Last of Us first and even though it is the same type of story as The Last of Us where there's a special kid and it's

[00:24:15] a big kind of they call it escort mission in games I thought it was completely different enough that even though we talked about it a lot at first I barely even thought about it as the show went on.

[00:24:27] Yeah I stopped thinking about it I was just like oh yeah nah. Occasionally I was like Ellie would never but aside from that. All right let's move on to Chris Lebow who says man oh man this episode got me but it wasn't until

[00:24:45] the end an obscure old U2 song and Daryl at the Normandy invasion beaches it seemed the writers had me in mind when we see the dead American soldiers on the beach I went oh when D mentions

[00:24:55] his grandfather being killed in the Avenger uh the invasion I went oh my then when we see the U.S. flag I knew it was the war grave cemetery and I went oh man D's grandfather's there and

[00:25:07] I'm gonna cry and I did those cemeteries be it British Commonwealth French American Canadian or German always get to me I'm glad they didn't have D's grandfather come up as a zombie I didn't

[00:25:21] even think about that but he's all you know that's too long ago unlike his grandfather D gets to go home but will he should he stay or should he go now it's been great listening to your coverage of

[00:25:32] the show au revoir les amis vive la France vive la Dixon. Au revoir Chris Lebow! That was a good one. That was great. Jason Badgett says when the spin-offs were announced I didn't realize they

[00:25:46] would be ongoing series I thought they were more like epilogues to the main series to wrap up some loose ends like Rick and Michonne and to show us some of the larger world I was a bit put off

[00:25:55] to learn that the franchise was still continuing when it feels like it has run its course Dead City was fine but it didn't really bring anything new to the table however the Daryl Dixon series felt

[00:26:05] fresh and different a new setting really helped I became invested in the new characters far more than I expected to and at the end of the show I was conflicted as to whether Daryl should stay or go

[00:26:15] but he should probably go home though part of me would just like to see the Walking Dead franchise conclude before it stretches too thin I'm now very invested and sort of very interested in

[00:26:24] Daryl Dixon season two Jason very well put I share a lot of those feelings yeah I mean I don't know if I would say I didn't expect to be attached to the new characters but I didn't expect not to

[00:26:39] or to I just thought I hope I do because that's the sign of a good show you know and I think especially in a long-running series like that we get this sort of feeling like oh I don't care

[00:26:49] about anybody but the characters I already know but I try to be like no bring in some new ones let's see what they're all about and the show did that so successfully especially with Isabelle

[00:26:59] Quinn was a good foil but even Laurent even though he's done some dumb things I think he's a good character he's very well acted he's interesting and I think oh yeah the actor's

[00:27:10] amazing it wasn't like oh man I gotta like they should have just not had this kid and come up with a different story I thought it was no he just he was a frustration in the way that I think he

[00:27:20] was probably meant to be which is cool yeah yeah yeah good way to put it Erica Price says this season as a whole was awesome I'm left wondering about the red mist in the opening credits could

[00:27:31] that be something the French tried to kill the walkers en masse or could it be the reason for the burning walkers I wished for an explanation of that we still don't know what the scientist

[00:27:41] motivation is for the juiced up walkers why make them 100 times worse Carol's cameo at the end amazing she's the queen of badassery looking forward to season two of Daryl Dixon way more

[00:27:51] than Dead City side note Lucy I was in Scotland a couple weeks ago if I'd been using my brain I'd have reached out to see if we could meet up here's my favorite pic I took in Carbridge oh that looks

[00:28:03] beautiful Carbridge is so nice it's a picture for those of you listening at home it's a picture of a beautiful rainbow poking out of a very Scottish grey sky over an old stone bridge over a river

[00:28:16] near Carbridge it's very beautiful thank you Erica I'm sorry that I missed you so that's a bridge that like a footbridge that you'd walk over I think so that is it looks that way there are

[00:28:28] definitely ones that look like that in Scotland that you can use so yeah and she goes on Jason I love the door so much my mom crafted a stained glass window of gym band was the only thing that

[00:28:38] got me through high school too band geeks rule have a great night oh I thought she was saying the doors got her through but it was marching band yeah this is a stained glass Jim Morrison

[00:28:49] it's pretty great it's really good yeah you could totally tell who it is he has very piercing eyes I love that you're questioning about the red mist because we kind of came up with reasons for

[00:29:01] everything in the opening credits except not that and I just I guess wrote it off as a flourish you know like a cool thing aesthetically but it might be something about because we still I feel like we

[00:29:12] need answers about why some of these zed's seem to have somehow changed on their own or what and yet these ones that we've seen in the show seem like they've individually been changed so maybe

[00:29:27] the red mist has something to do with that I don't know I agree with all of that to be honest Melissa Sylvester he says loved loved loved your podcast for this episode I laughed hysterically not enthusiastically and even leapt off the couch a time or two

[00:29:42] shouting yes thanks now for some thoughts on the actual episode I hate loathe and despise those lingering glances between Daryl and Isabel putting aside my long voyage on the best ship Carol Melissa

[00:29:55] we don't get a lot of carol shippers hello welcome to the pod carol c-a-r-y-l by the way yeah there's no chemistry between Daryl and Isabel and it's been a couple of weeks too rushed and too forced

[00:30:07] for a romance Daryl staying for Laurent nah not buying it Daryl has his own kids at home the scene where Daryl is on his knees pleading with Cadron not to kill Izzy and Laurent was very in character

[00:30:17] to me why because the last time Daryl was on his knees with his loved ones around him Negan Bash Gwenn and Scullin oh that's true good point can't be too cool and detached he's going to do whatever

[00:30:28] he can to prevent history from repeating itself thank you for such a fun and insightful podcast thank you Melissa thank you Melissa um also your point was also it's just been a couple of weeks

[00:30:39] not and it's been a couple of weeks I read that wrong so apologies great great message so keep writing in I think the only thing I disagree with here is I do think Daryl and Isabel have chemistry

[00:30:51] um I think they have it feels like they have this bond that came off the screen to me I'm not saying it's romantic necessarily actually I don't think so but I did feel like they were good on screen

[00:31:03] together yeah they were I like them as a scene partnership all right here's good old Steve Brown hello Jason and Lucy this is Steve and this is going to be for the finale of season one

[00:31:18] Daryl Dixon coming home obviously they're not going to pick up right where they left off because we know Daryl's going to survive so they're giving us somebody's backstory because

[00:31:27] I heard a plane so now we are right back where we left off okay so it's one of those acid walkers and he just lost his weapon in it oh when he just planted the french flag in that thing's head

[00:31:37] Quinn and Daryl realize they're going to have to work together second one walker just attacked another walker we've never seen that before oh and they just popped the head off that one and everybody's cheering for him Quinn thanks for admitting you're a jerk but Daryl might just cut

[00:31:52] your hand off if they cut off it at the wrist shouldn't Daryl be at least dragging a chain I see now he's got it wrapped around his fist okay well that's Quinn's walker attacking Isabel now

[00:32:04] oh so they made it out somehow this I don't understand how did they get out of Paris or yeah how did they get out of the city I guess Blue didn't fix the car the truck too well did

[00:32:15] he if it's breaking down maybe they didn't make it out of Paris because there's Kedron what's his name yeah Kedron a deposit okay I see Kedron is is uh conflicted but Laurent says God loves you

[00:32:26] and he kills all of his buddies or his men the guys oh so they track the truck just Alonzi mean doctor who used to say that let's go she washed Daryl's back in the first episode and now he's

[00:32:37] washing her back in the last episode watching her cut at least it looks kind of like a bite but I guess it's not oh she knows you're lying Kedron asked where the nest is he kept the watch

[00:32:46] right the pocket watch if they find it on him uh oh an American flag flying in France this must be the cemetery right is he gonna find his his grandfather's grave you think of course

[00:33:00] he'll find it oh that's a lot of walkers no did Laurent follow him what's going on now where did we just switch to with this Mad Max chase car chasing a motorcycle oh Carol can't wait to hear

[00:33:12] you guys talk about this one talk to you later do you think we'll have at some point some episode of something or maybe like a a movie a tv movie where more of the cast gets reunited for some kind

[00:33:26] of a finale I really hope so me too it's just gonna feel so frustrating with how it's all fractured it really means that AMC would have to be like oh we're coming to an end now which I just don't know

[00:33:40] if they can ever do it I know and um I'll tell this quick but I used to be a big fan of uh different soaps when I was a kid because my mom watched them and all my children's one and it's

[00:33:53] the one that has Erica Kane I don't know if you've heard of her probably not in Scotland but she's a big soap star character and uh that went on for decades and then they canceled it but

[00:34:05] instead of ending it properly they decided to try rebooting it as a web series and they hired back some of the actors but didn't have enough money yet to get all of the big ones so they the

[00:34:19] big ones were like let me stand back and see if this flies and then if it's popular I'll come on and it wasn't and it died out and I just hated that you know like after all that time invested

[00:34:29] in it just kind of petered out rather than having a satisfying ending so I mean so that's already had a good finale but now it feels like it's it's in jeopardy yeah

[00:34:43] I am nervous about Rick and Michelle and it was the one I was the most looking forward to and now I'm like Steve was in Boston with us he asked me if if I wanted him to do like an in-person live

[00:34:56] Steve for the episode of fear and I was like well we might not be able to kind of follow it if you're talking through it but now I kind of wished I'd said yeah because it would have been

[00:35:07] more entertaining at least one day Steve one day your time will come Ashley Edward Wolfe says hi Lucy and Jason I finally caught up to you guys nice I was late watching the episodes I have a

[00:35:20] five month old baby boy and two older boys so to say the least life's been a little crazy yep I don't know what that's like yeah I can imagine but I really enjoyed this season as a whole the

[00:35:30] finale was great I love the opening scene with Daryl and Quinn tag-teaming the jacked up walkers the one walker ripping the jaw off the weaker walker makes me think that they're injecting

[00:35:40] them with some rabid animal DNA or something like that it was very cool I hope they get more into that storyline in season two the end of the episode was beautiful the scenery along the beach then

[00:35:52] Daryl stumbling across the graveyard and frantically searching for his grandfather's grave it was well done walking on the beach to greet the approaching boat and finally about to be on his way home all

[00:36:02] to be ruined by that little shit surrounded by walkers like way to ruin a moment for a second I thought okay the kid's coming back to the states because I know Daryl's not about to go return that

[00:36:13] kid eye roll Carol oh how I miss Carol she's coming Daryl uh Ashley I find that so refreshing congratulations on your five month old but I find it refreshing that you're like now that kid's a

[00:36:28] dickhead I uh sometimes I think it's because I don't have the kids that I mean about other people's children but it's nice to know that it Laurent actually is just annoying I think um I don't

[00:36:42] see any situation where Daryl would not stay in Europe I just don't think they would have the Daryl Dixon show season one in France and season two in Georgia or something or you know

[00:36:56] Maine yeah I just I mean I don't know if he will choose to stay because he realizes that he needs to be a father figure to Laurent or if some other circumstance will keep him there but I just

[00:37:06] I hope it's B but uh I like it's weird because like I want him looking at it from a character point of view I want him to want to go back home but from what would be more entertaining as a story

[00:37:19] I want him to stay in Europe absolutely um I'm really privileged to read a message now from Ahuva O who says hi Jason and Lucy uh Ahuva's based in Israel and uh they wrote in last week and she says

[00:37:35] I'm still here in Israel still listening thank you for your support I'm fortunate to be living in a relatively safe area safe meaning I've only had to run to a bomb shelter a handful of times in the

[00:37:45] last week other areas are not so lucky a friend of mine was killed and that's just one of many lives lost most businesses are closed and we're hardly leaving the house which is where our tv

[00:37:56] comes in um Ahuva before I read the rest I just want to say I'm so sorry for your loss um I'm thinking of everyone who's affected by the conflict going on over with you at the moment um and just

[00:38:09] yeah sending as much support and good vibes as we can it must be horrific um so thank you for taking the time to write in um in terms of Daryl um Ahuva says the season finale of Daryl was amazing

[00:38:26] the story of his grandfather in the war and finding his family roots in a faraway land really hit home for me this week especially at face value Codron's betrayal could be seen as an easy way out for our

[00:38:36] heroes but I appreciate the depth it brings to his character as it relates to faith and what could be in his own roots the final scenes with Daryl and Laurent on the shoreline and then Carol were

[00:38:47] amazing and don't get me wrong I really liked them but for a show that was doing such a good job feeling different from The Walking Dead it tore me out and brought me right back to the

[00:38:56] pilot episode zooming out on Rick and the Tank and Carol just being Carol it wasn't bad so to speak because I did appreciate the callbacks and Carol is awesome but I thought it was an interesting

[00:39:05] choice really excited for season two but for now at least I'll have fear oh Ahuva no things are bad enough jinx um thank you for the podcast and this incredible community I usually don't write in much

[00:39:19] but I am always listening peace to everyone peace to you as well Ahuva um I'm hoping for better things for you in the coming weeks I don't understand what she's saying about it being

[00:39:31] similar to Rick with the tank uh she said um I think the way it zoomed out on Rick and the tank the way it zoomed out um with Daryl Daryl on the beach okay the camera just kind of went and took

[00:39:46] a higher view the music and the camera yeah I thought it had a bit of a bit of a vibe there um and Carol I think yeah just having Carol there made it very walking we're about to do the rewatch

[00:39:56] so yeah I'll definitely look for that but I will be able to do a direct contrast but I like those overhead shots sometimes you know and I do remember that an overhead shot like that early on in the

[00:40:08] walking dead in Atlanta maybe that's the one she's talking about yeah I guess it is where there's zombies like all around yeah that's exactly what you're saying yeah that is the exact shot

[00:40:17] um but I think they've done other shots like that in the series too because I remember thinking it reminded me of that anyway cool all right here is uh first time caller long-time listener Alma Contreras.

[00:40:38] Well what a finale right I just have one thing to say badass motherfucking Carol's back you know I was struggling with this uh with this series because I just felt that and Daryl is one of

[00:40:56] my favorites but um I just felt that he was just not this not Daryl so and then that dang kid just I'm sorry he irritates the F right out of me but um so needless to say I did not I did not hear any

[00:41:18] news about uh Carol so I was like completely completely thrown back and when she when she had that long sleeve on I just knew I just knew there was something in her sleeve but um

[00:41:36] anyways um well another another series down let's see how the next one goes and I'll catch you guys is my first time leaving a message so I hope it sounds okay I'll catch you guys on the

[00:41:48] flip side. Au revoir my friends. That was a fantastic message she I think she wrote on the page I'd love to message you I hope it's good enough if not then I guess I won't leave anymore

[00:42:00] something like that but of course it was badass as I expected yeah so she said she was like happy not to be spoiled about Carol and I've seen a couple other listeners say that they were also

[00:42:12] not spoiled and they were glad and that just makes me so glad that you and I didn't talk about it you know and ruin it for people yeah because we knew I was just I was thinking didn't we spoil it

[00:42:24] oh yeah well done us yay us yay yay for us we definitely did that on purpose no I I did I thought about talking about it but I'm like nah let's not yeah me too for sure yeah definitely

[00:42:39] Rabbi John says dear Jason and Lucy thanks so much for your great show thank you it helps me during my one and a half hour commute in New York City home here are two very random thoughts I had

[00:42:50] on last night's commute one here's how I want season two to go Daryl and Laurent get on the boat Carol gets on the boat they cross each other over the beautiful Atlantic Carol meets Isa and

[00:43:01] becomes a nun and they live happily ever after with pictures of Daryl hidden on the bottom of their sock drawer Daryl rides off on his motorcycle leaving RJ Judith and Laurent to save the world in a show called the next of us that sounds awful

[00:43:18] like the soap opera version that I kind of want to see but also we possibly we want Daryl and Carol to hang out don't you John uh two he says I would be a good killer nun yeah that's true she would be

[00:43:32] an actual killer nun too I love the theological aspects of the show and I'm not sure why putting God in the show bothered people I constantly hear the refrain that the walking dead should be as

[00:43:42] much as the regular world as possible accepting the zeds we have believers agnostics and atheists in the real world so isn't it realistic that the show to show that on the series you may know my

[00:43:53] side of this argument as a rabbi but here's a possibly new take I find myself often using aspects of different shows as examples when I teach the moral dilemmas are often profound

[00:44:03] and hearing a rabbi reference the walking dead gives me a lot of street cred with my teenage students thanks so much ps lucy you did a great job attempting to describe Abraham and Isaac's

[00:44:13] sacrifice story but you do not have to ask listeners to teach you it's all in the book the book is better than the movie and it's a bestseller sorry always a rabbi slash teacher

[00:44:23] um I didn't hear a lot of people saying that they weren't happy that there was religion in the show um I have my thoughts about religion but I that doesn't mean I didn't think it was a good addition

[00:44:37] to the show I did I thought it was good and well done too I didn't want to see Daryl suddenly become this convert at the end and he didn't or at least not apparently I am happy to take a compliment

[00:44:53] that I did a great job attempting to describe a story pleased with them thank you rabbi john I shall check out the book he didn't say which book no I'm just kidding um I think yeah and

[00:45:04] actually I would love if you wrote in more and gave us your theological perspective that'd be great super interesting um Dina says hi Jason and Lucy now Dina you do say no wordy analysis this week

[00:45:19] but there are two paragraphs so I'm just gonna call you out on that right away messages Dina by the way was one of the ones that came out and met in at dinner in Boston and she was

[00:45:31] just a pleasure to talk to really cool amazing right I've called her out I've called her out and now I'm gonna listen respectfully to what she has to say uh Dina says I'll be up all night

[00:45:41] dissecting every scene this last episode was fucking awesome the series is fucking awesome the writing acting cinema photography artistry you guessed it fucking awesome in my first letter I lamented the return of Carol I take it back fucking awesome Dina did we just become best

[00:46:00] friends um however I do not want Darrell to go back to America oh no friendship cancelled um I hope to forget that I'm watching a walking dead spin-off and I'm enjoying that very much if he

[00:46:10] returns home it'll just be like dead city and then there's Isabel my daughter wants Darrell to say stay single I'm as devastated that he and Leah hooked up but I'm a former romance novelist so

[00:46:21] he needs to stay and marry Izzy and teach her how to use a crossbow Leah was a toxic mess Connie is a strong contender but Izzy is just right so says gloomy looks romance or not the

[00:46:32] show is just a gorgeous piece of art all around it left me with a huge smile on my face and that's what art is supposed to do especially in times like these and you leave me smiling too so thank

[00:46:41] you for creating such wonderful podcasts love to you both Dina hold on hold on I didn't know she was a romance novelist that's super cool tell us I want to know tell us about your books yeah

[00:46:52] and uh what else uh I I everyone is of course I I encourage not only is everyone allowed to have their opinions I'm really glad everyone does but I have to say it gets to me when people don't want

[00:47:06] Darrell to have any romance I'm like let the guy have some romance come on so I'm on your side with this it's not that he's not allowed they just don't like it anyway but I feel like I don't like

[00:47:20] it for different reasons than some other women don't like it I meant like I don't know anyway mine is not through my desire to be with Darrell myself it's more about

[00:47:29] oh representing different things I know I get that but I but I think Darrell um I just think if Darrell said you know look I'm comfortable with myself and I prefer to be alone then that

[00:47:46] would be one thing but I just think he's tortured inside and he doesn't let people get close to him because of that and I think you want to see him heal yeah yeah and I I don't know maybe you're

[00:48:00] right maybe there's part of me that thinks doesn't everyone want love but it turns out not everyone does I don't know we don't know what he says to dog you might tell dog all of this stuff but dog's

[00:48:09] a traitor so who the fuck cares anyway Dina says hello again second feedback letter for the final episode to follow up on disbelief that Darrell would consider staying I don't find it at all

[00:48:23] preposterous I also hated the constant pressure for him to stay from characters that don't know him at all such as Aslan and Losang I do understand Laurent of course he's bonded to Darrell

[00:48:33] and I get Isabelle too she cares for him deeply and is maybe in love with him but it was totally shitty that she poured on a guilt trip so just a quick comment about Darrell's decision to stay

[00:48:44] it makes sense to me he clearly cares about Laurent and I suspect he has the hots for Izzy as well but it's the main show itself that sets the precedent for this Leah gave him an ultimatum

[00:48:53] me or your family and he was so torn that he's on the verge of tears ultimately he chose her at the end of find me he wrote I know where I belong with you and Judith at the very end of

[00:49:04] the series told him that he deserved to be happy too I think he is happy in France and he has very strong feelings for Isabelle possibly romantic so despite his love for his American family perhaps

[00:49:15] he's listening to Judith that girl knows him so well and she wouldn't have said that lightly he knows that rewatch scars scars the episode I didn't feel manipulated at all it makes sense

[00:49:27] that he wants to stay and even if he doesn't there's no way that Darrell would leave naive but fearless Laurent with all those walkers that he knows are back there in the dunes you're perhaps easily manipulated friend Dina interesting points Dina I mean you had said

[00:49:42] Lucy that if it because we don't really think that like Dina does that Darrell is into Isabelle or that Isabelle's into Darrell maybe but where we seem to lean more towards we don't think so

[00:49:57] but you were saying already earlier this season that if they did have this relationship then it would make more sense for him to want to stay which is kind of what Dina's saying I think

[00:50:07] all right hopefully he wouldn't end up killing this one because it doesn't end up killing Leah I don't know I'm also just like I'm just when I was thinking what uh Dina was saying there about him going back to save Laurent this poor fisherman is going to be

[00:50:20] like hello yeah they're gonna be like just give me a minute I gotta sort this dickhead over here and then he's gonna be like so do you want a ride to Newfoundland and Darrell's gonna be like uh

[00:50:30] I don't know honestly if I was a fisherman and I came to pick somebody up and he was saving a child from zombies I wouldn't be like oh my god I might be if I had somewhere to be

[00:50:42] I'd be like I'd be like excuse me what are you doing oh is that Laurent the messiah he looks like a he looks like a twerp yeah he looks like a twerp I'm heading back to Dover

[00:50:52] see you don't like losers people just aren't as nice as me what can I say all right now we have Tammy from Boston who I also saw in Boston this weekend they were all they're all writing in

[00:51:06] Tammy she was delightful here we go hi Jason and Lucy it's Tammy from Boston again so Jason now that I know you've spent a few years in Boston full disclosure I'm actually in a city called

[00:51:19] Haverhill which is an hour north of Boston on the New Hampshire border but around here when talking to non-locals we just say Boston because that's what the world is familiar with but I

[00:51:31] consider you a couple year local uh driving into the city and finding parking on a Friday night from here gonna be no easy task but I'm gonna try my damnest to get there Lucy she made it my Nana

[00:51:45] was born in Glasgow I just love listening to your accent I'm so sad you won't be there to meet up for drinks because this Scottish girl absolutely loves whiskey and would have loved to have raised

[00:51:58] a glass with you maybe next time anyway back to our show oh my god our favorite badass Carol is back yes does Daryl knock it on the boat will they meet up in France will Carol encourage the

[00:52:14] relationship with Isabel to blossom or will she make Isabel look at the flowers after all it would good to get the OG family back together again in America that's dark oh I agree with Lucy I do not

[00:52:32] want them to just ships that pass that would drive me crazy I would rather they meet up in England and get stuck in the circle roundabout saying oh look Big Ben Parliament over and over like

[00:52:47] Chevy Chasten in European Vacation anything but ships that pass either way I'm still glad to be out of the woods of Georgia maybe Daryl will take LaRon to Maine and teach him how to boil and crack

[00:53:00] a lobster wear a flannel shirt and of course Carol will teach him how to defend himself because that's what badass Carol does for kids as for Janay in the fear of LaRon being a source of hope

[00:53:14] well she was right after all Tattoo Face did put aside his hatred and need to avenge his brother in order to get to let Daryl the messenger safely deliver LaRon the messiah to the nest

[00:53:27] that's all for me I made it under my three minutes this time see you Friday Jason bye guys my Tammy oh Tammy I'm so sorry to have missed you she brought her poor husband but he was super nice

[00:53:41] oh it was actually really fun to talk to um I you got me wondering now yeah what if Carol and LaRon hang out and I do feel like we've already had so many stories with Carol

[00:53:54] and children that I don't know how they would make that fresh you know I feel like Daryl would be like Carol I love you but get the fuck away from that child or depending on how he's feeling hey

[00:54:06] look LaRon I want you to meet Carol hey LaRon this is your auntie Carol now you two have fun she likes gardening uh Tiffane Teyvold says I'll bait the weekly delay I haven't managed to record a voicemail yet

[00:54:23] we'll try later but wanted to send feedback on Mont Saint-Michel and being there is a bit like home as I visited the bay numerous times I have some great great grandma buried there my grandparents

[00:54:34] live nearby and you could see it from their house the legend says that if the Mont Saint-Michel is in the fog it's a sign of beautiful weather if you can see it clearly it will rain my name is

[00:54:46] everywhere there Tiffane de Raguenac was the wife of Bertrand Duguslin who fought during the hundred years war against the English and lived at Mont Saint-Michel my dad used to joke about

[00:54:59] the guide calling me every time he mentioned your name when I was a child wow it's one of the most beautiful places on earth not an island as there's one road that goes there but is now

[00:55:08] forbidden for tourists to drive over so does that mean they can't go there or they have to take a shuttle I'd imagine locals will be allowed and there will be a shuttle but I don't think

[00:55:18] yeah Lucy if you want to go I recommend ferry oh there you go from Portsmouth five hours to Kane then it's a short drive and Saint Malo where I think some scenes were shot for the show and the

[00:55:30] Normandy beaches are not far by the way I think they were drinking cider it's the local beverage oh that would make sense yeah very disappointed that the writers did not use the moving sands

[00:55:42] around Mont Saint-Michel and no one warned Darrell about it when he left either kind of expected a few zombies stuck in it he just walked away in the bay but it's not so easy especially on low

[00:55:51] tide one of my children got stuck when I took them I've never found them again I'm just kidding I guess it's a natural defense system as well the painting on the wall in J'en ais office is I think

[00:56:03] la liberté guidant le purple or something from Eugene Delacroix and it's is with the paintings we see in the opening credits from the Louvre it is a symbol of the French Revolution and Republic

[00:56:20] last French insight the police land rover is actually not a police vehicle but in the gendarmerie police in France are civil servants and only cover five percent of the country only big cities the rest is covered by the gendarmerie which are military oh wow hope I didn't bore

[00:56:37] everyone with all the French stuff no it's interesting can't wait for the rewatch coverage à la prochaine Tiffane merci Tiffane I wonder if that's like the Carabinieri and actually I didn't realize that those oh cool I really enjoy learning these things so thank you for

[00:56:53] sharing them yeah especially when it's like relevant to something we just saw in the episode and she has a call a one minute call and I'll play that because she did end up calling in but I don't mind I really enjoyed the coverage I really enjoyed the show

[00:57:16] I'm not convinced with the plot I think the last episode was too much of a soup for me and trying to make Daryl stay doesn't make any sense like you all said I'm not going to go back to that

[00:57:27] but I just finally figured out what I like the most about Daryl and actually what I like the most about Daryl is Carol and that is a fact I mean that's what I've been missing all along

[00:57:38] that's why I was so excited about having those two on the show and when she dropped I was really disappointed and I'm down for next season with her she is the best all the episodes I like from

[00:57:48] the original show are with Carol's probably they're my favorite episodes I can't wait for her to bake cookies for Laurel it's been a blast I really enjoyed listening and I'm so glad I've managed

[00:58:01] to do some feedback for once on the season well à bientôt au revoir bye so glad you called in a few times next season I hope to hear from you a lot more definitely she said she likes

[00:58:20] that Daryl and Carol or that's what she likes about Daryl is Carol and it just got me thinking about how you know Daryl and Carol are the two only two originals left well Rick I guess is still

[00:58:31] left but we haven't seen him lately um and going back to the first episode which we will be doing very soon the first few episodes of The Walking Dead I don't think we ever would have predicted

[00:58:43] what fan favorites those two characters would be you know especially her I'm excited to see them early on in the rewatch I really am yeah I think that's really cool yeah it'll be fun and she

[00:58:59] you're right like she's had so many great moments in this series she's just such a standout character and Melissa is so great so I'm excited for her to come back too and here's a call from Logan who's

[00:59:12] of course Teej's son and Teej said Logan's review is in I did like it much better during the rewatch which is also what it took for me to come around on Dead City so maybe I've just been spoiled by

[00:59:22] the old Netflix mode of dropping an entire season at once anyway here's Logan he's so old sounding sad face so here we go hi Jason and Dr. Lucy I'm Logan I'm 14 now and I just watched all of the

[00:59:39] Daryl Dixon show um there's a couple things that I'm confused about uh one the ending I mean it was a good ending but like I would have preferred knowing where he went like if he stayed in France

[00:59:55] or not also why can every character speak English because like in every in most scenes there's at least one person speaking English even if like someone who only speaks English isn't in the scene

[01:00:12] which just doesn't make sense to me because if it's in France I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure not every French person knows English you're right well you did take two years of French class

[01:00:27] so I think you know three oh I'm actually professional I'm kidding uh but yeah I don't I'm pretty sure not every French person knows English uh I do know that dad said that he doesn't

[01:00:43] like it and I see what he doesn't like about it but there are also some likable parts like the fact that it's about Daryl um the the nuns were also pretty cool even though all of them except

[01:01:01] for like two died immediately in like the second first episode I think um and then the kid is quite literally just Ellie from The Last of Us uh but I don't think he's immune he's a kid I got to meet those two out in Wisconsin

[01:01:25] oh I'm so glad you called it yeah yeah good guy he'll be like 10 years from now hey I'm Logan I'm 24 and we'll still be podcasts maybe we might be oh man um Andrea Abarca says hi Jason and Lucy I actually started writing you guys as soon as

[01:01:47] I finished watching the season finale but I decided to wait and listen to the podcast first and I'm so glad I did I am a die-hard Daryl fan he can do no wrong in my eyes so I feel bad even

[01:01:57] I am a die-hard Daryl fan he can do no wrong in my eyes so I feel bad even saying this but I was so annoyed your funny dialogue at the beginning of the podcast this week is exactly how I felt

[01:02:09] all these people telling Daryl he needs to say I love that you added the fuck you use his response to the monk did you listen that's did you listen to last episode I haven't listened to the start yet

[01:02:21] I just put in the scene between Losang and Daryl when Losang says oh you can leave in the morning there's a boat coming unless you've changed your mind and Daryl said I uh I have family back home

[01:02:33] and I need to get back to them and then Losang said well there's people here that that need you here too and then I added and Daryl's just saying fuck you excellent well Andrea agrees and says

[01:02:49] that's what I wanted to say especially to Isabel he shared something about his life and then she throws it in his face accusing him of abandoning Laurent seriously what the hell he did what she

[01:02:58] asked I was so mad the looks between Isabel and Daryl also annoyed me but after Jason mentioned how he saw it made more sense I kept thinking of Eowyn in Lord of the Rings and how she and Aragorn

[01:03:09] exchanged looks but Aragorn's heart was always with Arwen I think Daryl's heart has always been elsewhere I still have hope for Daryl and Carol especially now she is on her way I also thought

[01:03:19] that Daryl begging for his life was so out of character Daryl has always been defiant even in Negan's lineup I don't think that was him at all it never has been anyway I'm done with my rant

[01:03:30] some of the things I loved the zombie fight that was awesome especially when they added Quinn to the mix and they fought together those zombies were terrifying and it was so weird that they

[01:03:38] turned on each other I wonder if they will explain why that happens then when Daryl threw the head at J'nae the only thing that would have been better is if it hit her in the head I was surprised that

[01:03:49] Quinn met his demise so quickly I thought he would be around a while causing trouble if it like flew right at her face and like bit her nose and just like didn't Arryn do that once like use a zombie head for torturing someone

[01:04:04] I wasn't it the whole zombie I think he had the whole zombie it wasn't just the head actually did he had him bite the guy yeah he did um I was surprised that Quinn met his demise

[01:04:14] that would be around causing trouble Carol in the last minutes of the show was by far my favorite part I love the way people always assume she has she is just some weak woman and her caught off guard

[01:04:23] when she kicks them in the ass it's been done before but it's just so Carol I also love that she rode away on Daryl's bike I can't wait for next season I do have a final question how the

[01:04:34] hell did Laurent get there so quickly I guess we'll just have to wait and see I suppose if Daryl doesn't stay in France there would be no show but I hope his staying is written true to his character

[01:04:44] the Daryl everyone loves is because of his love loyalty and fierce protection of his fine family he has a million more reasons to leave than to stay I hope the writers remember that thanks again for

[01:04:55] a great podcast and a place to rant you are welcome right in any time um I think Laurent got there so quickly because he's a little badass and he's the coolest thing ever he's the best dude in the world

[01:05:11] I think he's probably like shadowing Daryl like that's my theory like yeah but then I don't know yeah but then that would be really dumb of him to just wait until the very last

[01:05:22] minute to say Daryl yeah all right all right I don't know all right here's a call from Colin Colin hello Margaret it's me again so gosh not the finale I wanted but it's the finale we got

[01:05:42] uh really action-packed in the beginning I love the uh Daryl and Quinn being chained together kind of like a the Spartacus tv show on stars and Spartacus and Varro decapitating a dude's head

[01:05:57] with the chain um and then kind of an homage I think to gladiator when uh Maximus throws the sword into the pulvinus kind of like Daryl threw the head to J'nae um it really it made me giggle

[01:06:15] when um Daryl was underneath the truck and asked Issa for a big wrench and uh Qadron gave it to him not in the way I wanted but and it was just it was uh it was kind of shell shocking to see Daryl

[01:06:30] scared I've never seen him really scared before uh when Qadron and his men were were uh threatening to kill everybody um yeah is it just me or does the shots of the nest

[01:06:47] just it it reminded me of uh the shots of king's landing from game of thrones um and he finally took his vest back out I was wondering where that went for the last two episodes but we got it

[01:07:05] and it was really cool um I it shows how much of a moron I am I had to ask my girlfriend where's Normandy and she's like I don't know like so I had to google it yeah it's in France okay so

[01:07:21] Willie Dix he uh stormed the beaches of Normandy didn't make it out obviously and it was really cool on that last shot when Daryl was waving the boat down he or you can see all these bunkers

[01:07:38] from the beaches of Normandy the d-day battle it was so fucking cool speaking of which only three fucks in this episode that I counted I'm not a very good counter though I'm from Iowa go figure

[01:07:55] all right thanks guys thanks Colin thanks Colin I didn't even notice Daryl had his vest back on but maybe that was like I'm going home I'm putting my vest back on or something I thought

[01:08:09] he put it in his backpack but I might be wrong oh yeah you mentioned that he was also wearing like his traveling cloak I like Colin's voice oh it's great wonder if you you're a singer Colin

[01:08:22] sing us a song Tom Waits style yeah Sadie Wright wrote in she says I didn't love episodes four and five but didn't want to leave negative feedback I felt like the story was too insular we didn't

[01:08:34] have context or reason to really care about the whole what the fuck is happening with the J'nae situation Isabelle going back to Quinn didn't really make a lot of sense and of course the

[01:08:42] cliffhanger at the end of episode five knowing Daryl is never really in peril but wow the season finale was amazing had me legit leaning all the way forward and loving it the first walker was

[01:08:53] like okay this is cool but when French scientist dude says that was just the first one and then they chained Daryl up to Quinn it was on loved the one Zed attacking the other that was so

[01:09:03] unexpected and the new variants being actual real threats and unpredictable reaction to whatever they're shooting them up with is so satisfying totally thought Codron was going to shoot Laurent and Isabelle surprised they all lived to the end of the finale Chateau Saint-Michel

[01:09:21] or Mont Saint-Michel she means was stunning seems like the perfect place to live out the apocalypse yeah can we talk about Carol oh my god when she got out of that car I cheered so loud

[01:09:32] I was like well this dude is dead I'm so excited for more Carol I assume Daryl stays in France so wonder how she gets to him I was kind of wondering if they were hinting at more than

[01:09:43] friends feelings for Daryl and Isabelle with all the stolen glances uh across to each other and that pained goodbye I yeah whoever wrote in last said my explanation of the glances

[01:09:58] made it make more sense and so I'll repeat that I just thought she was happy to see Daryl integrating with the community because he was helping with the guns and he was doing something else like making potato peeling potatoes we thought she was happy because of the potatoes

[01:10:13] that's right because she knew there was potatoes for dinner which I'd be happy about how cute he'd been sleeping on the floor next to her while she was in the infirmary recovering

[01:10:24] that is nice fucking Laurent yelling for Daryl at the end great get all those walkers attention kid Daryl just got down to the beach after fighting his way through those zeds and the sand dudes now

[01:10:35] he's got to go back and save your ass ugh I thought Daryl finding his grandfather's cross was really a really beautiful tender moment that Norman Reedus played brilliantly I really like that too I thought the first flashback to Normandy was clunky editing I knew immediately what and where

[01:10:53] it was but hubby didn't catch that it was a memory slash flashback overall it was a solid first season I like how she throws a dig at her husband there and then just yeah

[01:11:05] overall it was a solid first season I think my issues with episodes four and five are really kind of explained after the finale so I'll watch them again and probably have a better appreciation knowing what it is the writers were setting up seriously can't wait for season two

[01:11:21] oh good I'm glad it sort of saved itself for you at the end there Sadie yes all right here's a call from Gloria hi guys it's Gloria from Salem this is the finale for Daryl Dixon it was awesome

[01:11:35] I did enjoy it really much but um the guilt trip that Isabelle was throwing on Daryl was really unnecessary I didn't know that Carol um was coming back I didn't see any photos or hear

[01:11:49] anything about it good I did see a clip of Norman um and a con saying that Melissa McBride was going to be in a series a series regular in season two which I'm pretty psyched about I can't believe

[01:12:03] that Laurent trekked all the way to say goodbye to Daryl I thought Laurent calling out for him was Carol honestly calling him calling out but he sounded he just sounded awfully American to me

[01:12:18] I didn't expect it um obviously Daryl can't say goodbye to him he grew to love him because you know he loves kids and that grave scene the tears so touching and sweet I do have to say

[01:12:34] that I did not like the looks between Daryl and Isabelle once they got to the nest um was that supposed to be you know us showing showing some growing romantic feelings for each other

[01:12:50] I don't think so um I just don't see any chemistry between them I know Norman Reedus can have chemistry with pretty much anyone but I don't know I didn't see it and maybe I'm taking it

[01:13:04] too personally but um yeah no no thanks and the nest was really cool I um it's like a little city unto itself and I just realized that I say um a lot and I'm kind of sick of hearing my own voice

[01:13:24] yeah well anyway uh Cadrone really shocked me if um he lives till next season we'll probably see him again but otherwise I don't think so Carol being Carol was the best at the end I hope season

[01:13:40] two is longer and we don't have to wait too long for Daryl and Carol to be reunited um that's pretty much it Jesus if I could stop saying um that'd be good all right um it's really hard not

[01:13:56] to say um sometime this weekend Jason wish you were coming to Lucy you guys have a uh a great weekend ciao I didn't think you said um I didn't notice at all until you said it and I was like

[01:14:13] oh we all do it then 10 years in I still do it yeah oh for sure I edit some of those out by the way um Jason says like one every three words you just don't hear it um um so she oh she's from Salem

[01:14:30] and I was a few we were all gonna go into Salem one day this weekend but you know which is close to Boston and it's all witchy and everything I guess but it was so crowded it's the season

[01:14:43] because it's October and the hocus pocus people were there and I haven't even seen that movie so I don't really care and I just was like I don't want to be in the middle of a crowd that people

[01:14:50] were like you can't park there and how are you even going to get in and I also didn't want to let this weekend get by without seeing a friend of mine who's still in Boston from school so I decided

[01:14:59] I would just go into Boston by myself that day and see my friend so I didn't get to see Gloria which is that was like my one regret of the whole trip so sorry I didn't make it out there but

[01:15:07] hopefully we'll have another meetup at some point and you can join in Gloria that'd be cool I was Gloria I wouldn't even be listening I'd be like she probably isn't hearing this dead to me she's like she says all the time anyway I don't that's funny

[01:15:22] Gloria I would have come to Salem that's all I'm saying I would have made it ever and if Lucy went then I definitely wouldn't have gone I'm just kidding never have both just one by the way I don't know if I mentioned this on the podcast but

[01:15:34] the plan is for me and Karen and David to go out to Scotland and see Lucy next year I can't wait we're so excited blast we're like planning some fun whiskey stuff Scotland is just fun whiskey sounds good to me and speaking of Scotland would you believe

[01:15:51] Jennifer Mcginley wrote in this week oh wait wait before we get to Jennifer I do want to say one other thing that I thought of during Gloria's call she said you know Daryl couldn't bear to

[01:16:01] say goodbye to Laurent because he loves kids so he left while he was asleep or whatever and that's actually kind of a good point Daryl should have taken the time to say goodbye and

[01:16:09] just and and then if Laurent needed some closure to give it to him like I have to go back but I've enjoyed meeting you or whatever he didn't give him closure and so he came running after him you know only takes a second to say goodbye say goodbye

[01:16:30] very good well we Jennifer says much as I would love to see Daryl and Quinn beat the shit out of each other again I'm thinking they're not fighting against each other come on Quinn they never handcuffed we both together for that see told you there's loads

[01:16:44] of them oh while I remember Isabelle's acting is on a par with Madison from Fear she's had the same facial expression since her first scene I wrote back to her and I was like to be fair

[01:16:54] Daryl has two expressions brooding and intensely brooding and she wrote back saying yeah and they're both sexy as fuck oh well things are taking a turn here and no no no no what did

[01:17:09] I just see the beautiful Quinn got chopped up zombified then chopped up again and fucking morons like wooden face and humperdude of scot free I'm not watching this shit you can fuck

[01:17:20] this show sky high I'll find out what happened to the other 37 minutes on the podcast I'm away to watch the terror again fucking ming hawks how dare they got a fucking cheek to strike right and shite like this oh I'm raging

[01:17:37] part two or part two so I watched the rest got over the beautiful Quinn dying not sure how he managed to turn into a zed when last seen sacrificing himself for Daryl to escape

[01:17:50] that should have disabled him permanently but never mind I found an adam the guy to this youtube channel so I'm fine the rest of the show was all right really enjoyed seeing Mont-Saint-Michel

[01:18:00] up close again after having not seen it since the school trip in 83 but I'm mainly here to talk about the episode title in the music so why was the title in English this time well I think that

[01:18:10] pertains to the fact that Daryl was supposed to be returned to the US not that he's come home as in staying at the nest if it was referencing staying at the nest it would have been in French however

[01:18:20] it was in French we'd never have got the great easter egg I feel nobody has connected apart from me which may just be my age and the audiophile in me I played U2's third album war to death as a

[01:18:32] young teenager in that way that you only have the free time to invest in a whole album when you're very young you put the record on lie back on your bed and become the music I love that image when

[01:18:42] seconds kicked in on the show I was completely elated and I hope everyone's had a listen to the song in its entirety I've neglected it for decades and it really was a shot in the arm for tuning back

[01:18:52] into U2's early post-punk albums someone involved in the making of the show really knows their early U2 as much as me I knew the title of the show was coming home and when seconds ended my head

[01:19:04] had a light bulb above it the title comes from a song a sort of homecoming which is from U2's subsequent album unforgettable fire which is also the last good record they made well it's half

[01:19:14] decent anyway okay the opening lyrics to a sort of homecoming and you know it's time to go through the sleet and driving snow across the fields of mourning to a light that's in the distance

[01:19:26] which was absolutely made for Daryl running around the memorial site looking for grandpa Dixon's cross up to the use of what I assumed was the sun and a mirror being used to signal him from the beach

[01:19:37] next line is and you hunger for the time to heal desire time and your earth moves beneath your dream landscape now I've not listened to the podcast yet so I don't know if you discuss any of that at all

[01:19:48] spoiler we did not however the lyric your own dream landscape has left me in no doubt that Laurent was not there at all and was Daryl's vision caused by his conflicting feelings about

[01:19:58] coming home the song ends with the line oh don't sorrow no don't weep for tonight at last I'm coming home I am coming home boom there you have it I'm possibly the only viewer listener who picked

[01:20:10] up on this but whoever shoved this in the show I appreciate you man nice work the use of music on screen can be so so powerful if I could go back and have my time again this would be the job that

[01:20:20] I'd pursue it was made for me and I totally miss my calling before I go I'd like to make it clear that I cannot bear you to nor the pompous arse is the lead singer the reason for their stratospheric

[01:20:30] success leading to selling out stadiums when they started releasing bland instantly forgettable metal is beyond me sing see kings of leon who followed the same formula but I'm not going to

[01:20:40] deny the first three and a half albums were out of this world again I am not a youtube fan I would fight jacked up zed as a lollipop stick before I go to see a youtube show have a great time at

[01:20:51] the meetup love y'all love you too jennifer that I had no idea about that the only other person who may have picked up on this I think is anwen who I think is a big fan she has a call coming

[01:21:04] up here so I'm all news to me and I love it I love that idea and another point in favor of the dreamscape um I'm mainly just glad that you're a good place with your grief

[01:21:16] you know these things are hard I didn't catch that part about quinn oh oh oh I thought you were talking about something real yeah it's tough it is real I know it hurts when these things

[01:21:29] happen yeah of course there's a youtube channel don't be insensitive there's a youtube channel it's fine I guess I wouldn't be laughing so hard if I don't know who who would have to die for me

[01:21:42] that way yeah maybe so you're right rick yeah okay good point sorry you're right um I uh played sunday bloody sunday for about eight hours straight in my dorm room one time until my roommate wanted

[01:21:56] to move out so um I think he was an irish I think that's on war no he just didn't want to hear it anymore um he's indian uh but I it's funny because I'm gonna go down a couple notches in your

[01:22:09] estimation here jennifer but I came to love you too with Joshua Tree which I think most people consider their best album clearly not you but um it has with or without you on it which was my

[01:22:20] favorite song for many many years and I also listened to the fuck out of uh octung baby over and over again so many times and loved it and loved many of their albums later on until the

[01:22:31] year 2000 hit and I feel like everything since then has been the way you described it just boring as which is uh kind of a bummer because I want to love them but they're just not doing it for me

[01:22:42] anymore and you get it all for free on your iPods now right yeah already there yeah that was that was so sad but that was an awesome message of course and here we have a couple more calls

[01:22:55] here's jack actually I'll play on when first since we just mentioned you two and I bet she has something to say about it let's see hi jason and lucy daryl dixon season one done loved it loved

[01:23:07] it loved it I have not enjoyed the walking dead this much since probably season nine and oh visually just so beautiful so beautifully shot amazing acting writing a couple of really cool surprises with the redemption arcs for quinn and codron fantastic and just really enjoyed the whole

[01:23:31] ride of it really it's brilliant and of course you've got a big setup for season two which was to be expected but when carol got out of that car with her short hair I knew that dude was in trouble

[01:23:44] oh yes right here I thought to myself carol has always got something up her sleeve this time it wasn't a machine gun but it still did the trick the scene at the end with the beach and

[01:23:56] daryl and his grandfather and all those poor zeds who were just like the poor soldiers who died on that beach was very very moving until laron showed up and I just went fucking laron

[01:24:13] oh my god but just when I thought the show couldn't get any better in comes a youtube song and that just totally made my night the second I heard those first few drum beats of the song

[01:24:28] seconds from the war album I just thought that was brilliant anyway that's all from me can't wait for season two bye bye yay yay I I she caught me off guard when she said the poor zeds

[01:24:42] like the soldiers like I just think of them as you know blade fodder now but that was interesting I like it think of them more more poetically um I totally didn't even catch for some reason that

[01:24:55] carol had her short hair back but I think that's pretty cool it's iconic look for her it's pure carol yeah all right we got one more call and that is from jack here we go bonjour monsieur jason

[01:25:10] madame docteur lucie say happy jack sure uh british columbia I just wanted to give my little bit of feedback here for the walking dead double d the season finale of course I have not watched it yet

[01:25:26] because it hasn't aired yet I uh I'm just gonna assume that it was awesome and I cannot believe that that happened um it was a great season overall and I enjoyed the psychotic walkers

[01:25:42] I'm glad the show didn't go to a nuclear and uh I'm looking forward to uh season two I also wanted to give you my little french zombie sound so here it goes oh it reminds me of um in the simpsons I heartily endorse this event or product

[01:26:18] like I'm sure it was great I'm amazed the thing that happened happened that's hilarious excellent I thought we were going to get a summary that would have been cool right all right that is our

[01:26:33] show episode 547 thanks so much for listening everybody that's it for Daryl season one I think that was a great season it went quick it was super fun to cover all good we had a lot of nitpicks but

[01:26:46] we loved it anyway and what should what should we do next how should we fill our days I don't know fear the walking dead no I am going to pretend I didn't hear that it was so it was such a chore

[01:27:00] to watch such a bad episode you watched it huh I speak German and I was like this is shay somebody's just like what's German for this is shay maybe one of the listeners yeah somebody wrote in about it and said the German was bad

[01:27:20] it wasn't translated well and it wasn't spoken well yeah I would say so they couldn't even like get people speaking good German on there for some reason like the German translator was just like

[01:27:32] fuck no honestly terrible don't waste your time yeah yeah don't even bother all right next episode yeah what sorry anyway no it's a thing about fear it's fine you don't want to hear it it's just

[01:27:46] bitching about a particular moment where Troy was like I'll show you what she did and then takes his glasses off and essentially looks exactly the same and I'm like anyway you can

[01:27:57] cut that sorry it was just so dumb yeah it's like now I look cooler it's like now I'm still hot and I'm like fuck you got your heat smashed in anyway it's ridiculous all right well let's just put that

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[01:28:41] about it you can find all our contact information at podcastica.com I yeah I don't know when the last time I've seen the pilot if I've watched any episode after a new season aired it was probably

[01:28:54] the pilot so that might be the one that I'm a little more familiar with but otherwise I'm sure there's going to be so many details that I totally forgot about um did you watch it they

[01:29:06] released it in black and white didn't they yeah I think I did did you watch that yeah but I feel like that was pretty early on when they did that you know yeah I don't think it was like in between

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