11. "Hello Stranger" (S2E2)

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast, I'm Greg

[00:00:26] and I'm a manic pixie dream slut named Penny.

[00:00:30] And this is The Extraordinary Cast, a podcast dedicated to the Hulu and Disney Plus show

[00:00:37] Extraordinary created by Emma Moran.

[00:00:41] This episode will be covering season two, episode two, Hello Stranger written by Emma

[00:00:47] Moran and directed by Toby MacDonald.

[00:00:52] Hello Stranger.

[00:00:54] And that's enough of that because I cannot keep that up for however long.

[00:00:59] My brain goes too fast and it's way too disorganized to be able to keep that up for a while.

[00:01:06] Yeah, that takes a lot of practice.

[00:01:08] Yeah, Jonathan's got it.

[00:01:10] He straight up got it.

[00:01:12] He just did all the cuts at any given time.

[00:01:15] Well, this is not just a voice, it's like the pacing too, right?

[00:01:18] Yeah, you can check him out on Andorra and Star Wars Cast.

[00:01:21] And are they doing the Bad Batch?

[00:01:24] I feel like they did.

[00:01:25] They did the Bad Batch.

[00:01:26] Not the most current season, but I know they did Ahsoka.

[00:01:31] So that's my fault.

[00:01:32] Yeah, they did Ahsoka.

[00:01:35] But yeah, so episode two, Hello Stranger, which is something that I think we've all been looking forward to.

[00:01:42] Although I do, like I, there were definitely some plotlines from the first episode that I have been missing.

[00:01:48] That I was looking forward to seeing in this episode we didn't.

[00:01:51] Yeah, there was, this was a very simple episode with really only two plotlines.

[00:01:58] You know, there's basically the Jen versus Nora plotline.

[00:02:04] And then there's Cash and Carrie at work.

[00:02:11] Yeah, we're not getting a lot of side characters.

[00:02:13] We're not getting like Jen's family.

[00:02:15] There's a lot of stuff that's like, that's like not showing up on the show just yet.

[00:02:20] Right.

[00:02:21] Because it's still setting up I guess all the conflict for the season.

[00:02:25] Yeah, I mean like and it's conflict I'm interested in.

[00:02:29] How did you feel about this episode?

[00:02:32] I thought it was a little slow and not super funny.

[00:02:36] But I really, really enjoyed how it ended.

[00:02:41] I thought that Nora being revealed as a villain was fantastic.

[00:02:48] I am very suspicious of anybody who looks that casually elegant easily simply pulled together in beige and cream and tan and taupe.

[00:03:01] I just, I'm suspicious of those people.

[00:03:05] I don't think anyone who has like a minimalist home that's like, you know, Instagram ready at all times is free of dark secrets they're just really good at hiding them, you know,

[00:03:17] It's a prime example of it's the quiet ones. You have to watch.

[00:03:22] Yeah, the while you're watching the quiet ones are crazy ones going to come out and get you.

[00:03:30] All right, so so I'll be honest on first watch I kind of like soaked it in and I enjoyed it.

[00:03:37] And on second watch, there were definitely some things that I didn't like and it wasn't the the acting.

[00:03:44] It was the writing which really, really is is not typical in for me in the show.

[00:03:51] So, you know, I have, I have some some some things to talk about.

[00:03:59] There were some things that were good but that I did really enjoy and one of them was absolutely Norris Tethi telepathic conversation one way conversation with Jen.

[00:04:09] That was that's top of the list because I thought it was delivered phenomenally and I tried to write the whole damn thing down but I didn't realize how bleeding long it was.

[00:04:19] I have it.

[00:04:20] I have already.

[00:04:21] Okay, all right.

[00:04:22] Yeah.

[00:04:23] Yeah, I was man like man like that is an amazing.

[00:04:27] So, what is it when you select not Sililliqui.

[00:04:30] Yeah, monologue monologue that is amazing. You know directional monologue.

[00:04:36] Um, but yeah, so recap of season two episode to Hello stranger.

[00:04:42] Yeah.

[00:04:43] So, yeah, like the look on Kerry's face when she saw cash.

[00:04:48] Okay.

[00:04:49] Just like frustration and also this like result of the

[00:04:58] like defeat like, oh, he's still dragging my life down.

[00:05:03] So, so here's let's let's start with Kerry and cash.

[00:05:07] Here is my biggest complaint about the episode.

[00:05:12] Okay.

[00:05:13] So, yeah, like the look on Kerry's face when she saw cash.

[00:05:17] Okay.

[00:05:18] Just like frustration and also this like resigned like defeat like, oh, he's still dragging my life down.

[00:05:27] So, yeah, like, let's start with, like, this is my biggest complaint about the episode.

[00:05:37] Okay.

[00:05:38] So, yeah, like, so, yeah, like, I like the look on Kerry's face when she saw cash.

[00:05:45] Yeah.

[00:05:46] So, yeah, like, I like the look on Kerry's face when she saw cash.

[00:05:52] So, that's what I'm talking about, it's, it doesn't make any sense at all.

[00:05:56] But it's not reflective of the character.

[00:05:58] It's not in character.

[00:06:00] And that's what I that's that's the thing that bugs the crap out of me.

[00:06:03] Oh, I know, I can reorganize your, your very color coded stationary cupboard by all just putting it all in a bag.

[00:06:11] I mean, I'm not going to say that no one is that stupid.

[00:06:16] But Cash specifically, it's not in character.

[00:06:21] It's not in character.

[00:06:22] He honest to God, I feel like he wants to impress Carrie.

[00:06:27] Yeah.

[00:06:28] And when you see it and it's all this color-coded glory

[00:06:32] when Carrie opens it up earlier, earlier in the episode,

[00:06:36] you see it and it's like there is order to this.

[00:06:41] Like someone put this in this particular,

[00:06:44] and for me to just say, hey, like now if he opened it up

[00:06:49] and there was a bunch of random stuff in there that had been

[00:06:52] sorted in even if it was a cash fashion, but for it to be blank.

[00:06:57] And to be just, oh, like this orange,

[00:06:59] like that sounds like he's intentionally fucking with her.

[00:07:02] And it does.

[00:07:03] It like, and it's not like, hey, I get it.

[00:07:08] Sometimes it's hard to work as the Erox machine.

[00:07:11] I don't understand.

[00:07:13] And so I'll be on it.

[00:07:14] Me and another coworker of mine a couple months ago,

[00:07:18] we're trying to print out something and like we couldn't get

[00:07:23] the damn thing to work.

[00:07:24] We couldn't get it to come out right.

[00:07:29] But you keep working at it.

[00:07:31] You try, keep trying things.

[00:07:32] You don't just hand over this.

[00:07:34] It came out big.

[00:07:36] Like that it seems like a very simple fix to that.

[00:07:40] And it's like a way oversized piece of paper.

[00:07:43] I was just like, it was, it was comically out of character.

[00:07:48] And it made it not funny to me.

[00:07:50] Absurd.

[00:07:51] Yes.

[00:07:52] Thank you.

[00:07:53] I have to agree with you, but I will say that I have worked

[00:07:57] with people who have this level of lack of awareness of the

[00:08:03] world around them and of their impact on it.

[00:08:06] And so I worked with this one guy.

[00:08:08] I gave him a task to do was very straightforward and I gave him

[00:08:12] very straightforward instructions and he asked some questions

[00:08:16] and this was a trademark thing and he said, why aren't we applying

[00:08:20] in color?

[00:08:21] Why aren't we using color drawings?

[00:08:22] And I said the black and white drawings give us more rights.

[00:08:27] It gives us more protection.

[00:08:29] So we were using the black and white drugs.

[00:08:31] So he did the whole thing, handed it to me with the color drawings.

[00:08:36] And I was like, I told you to use the black and white ones.

[00:08:41] He's like, I thought this way was better because now we can

[00:08:45] claim rights to the colors also.

[00:08:48] And I was like, that's not how it works.

[00:08:50] The black and white ones are better.

[00:08:52] These all need to be redone.

[00:08:54] And he goes, well, I'm going home and he left.

[00:09:00] And I had to redo all the work.

[00:09:02] And at law firms, when you're the first year lawyer and the fourth

[00:09:06] year lawyer gives you work to do, you do it until they tell

[00:09:11] you that you're done with it.

[00:09:13] And the fact that he just like left and left home with it.

[00:09:17] I'm not a horrible person and I'm not a mean boss, but I

[00:09:20] ratted on him and I was like, I'll never work with him again.

[00:09:24] Like if anyone else is going to train him, it has to be somebody

[00:09:27] else. It's not going to be me.

[00:09:28] I won't work with somebody that disrespectful.

[00:09:30] I don't know if it was a gender thing or if he's just that

[00:09:32] stupid, but I won't work with him.

[00:09:35] And Cash kind of reminded me of that guy because he was like,

[00:09:39] oh, I have a better idea.

[00:09:41] I won't even think about whether or not somebody else who's

[00:09:44] been here longer, who you know, is my boss might have

[00:09:48] done this, this way on purpose.

[00:09:49] I'm just going to do my idea.

[00:09:52] Yes. He took it to an absurd extreme by putting all the

[00:09:55] supplies in a plastic bag on the floor.

[00:09:57] I mean, that was so dumb, but like there's part of me that

[00:10:00] believes it.

[00:10:03] I mean, I have not run into run into that in particular.

[00:10:09] So I don't like I personally thought it was, it was out

[00:10:15] of character for Cash and it made me specifically on

[00:10:19] second watch.

[00:10:20] It made me go.

[00:10:22] I just feel like it's, it's like we're taking absurd

[00:10:26] situations and making them like making them more absurd

[00:10:31] just for a gag, which to me made it less funny.

[00:10:36] It didn't land.

[00:10:37] I will agree to that.

[00:10:38] I didn't find most of the office hijinks to be all

[00:10:43] that funny.

[00:10:45] I mostly felt really sad for Carrie and the predicament she

[00:10:51] was in.

[00:10:52] I don't know what I would have done if I were in the same

[00:10:56] predicament.

[00:10:57] I know now what I would do, but when I was 25, I don't think

[00:11:00] I would have had the wherewithal to be like, we can't

[00:11:04] have this person work here.

[00:11:06] Please let him go.

[00:11:07] We'll find somebody else.

[00:11:09] Right.

[00:11:10] Now I would do that.

[00:11:11] But at the time I would have been like, Oh no, my boss

[00:11:14] wanted to hire him.

[00:11:15] So now I'm stuck with him and I got him to make it work.

[00:11:17] I would have done exactly what Carrie did.

[00:11:19] You would have gone and gotten advice from your friend of

[00:11:22] how to buy drugs poorly and then made assumptions that

[00:11:27] even though this guy knows no idea.

[00:11:29] Yeah, you're right.

[00:11:30] I would not have done that.

[00:11:31] Does he have no idea who I am or what a bank account

[00:11:33] numbers are or anything like that?

[00:11:35] He can just transfer money from one account to another

[00:11:39] with his mind.

[00:11:40] Am I saying that that is not a possible thing?

[00:11:43] Sure.

[00:11:44] This is my other point that I have complete and utter.

[00:11:48] This is,

[00:11:49] I would not have done that.

[00:11:51] Carrie is a smart person.

[00:11:54] She maybe, maybe if she was like, here's my bank

[00:11:57] account number,

[00:11:58] they're like, maybe, maybe if there was more to it,

[00:12:01] but oh, you're just going to do it.

[00:12:03] All you know about me is that I came to buy drugs

[00:12:06] from you.

[00:12:07] I told you I'm not a cop and that I've watched a lot

[00:12:09] for a Pui Rau.

[00:12:10] That's it.

[00:12:11] That is all and I want your least illegal drug.

[00:12:15] I know nothing about you except for that,

[00:12:18] but you know, in my head, I'm going to go ahead

[00:12:22] and do some bank transfer.

[00:12:23] In this universe though,

[00:12:26] we've seen several people with powers that I would think

[00:12:31] would require them to have a lot of information to use,

[00:12:35] able to do miraculous things.

[00:12:38] Remember the girl at the high school reunion who took

[00:12:41] Carrie back to a couple of key memories just by being like,

[00:12:44] all right, let's go to some key memories.

[00:12:46] There was also,

[00:12:50] well,

[00:12:51] there's Carrie is a great example when she wants to channel

[00:12:54] any dead person.

[00:12:56] She just sort of thinks about them and there they are.

[00:13:00] It's really remarkable.

[00:13:04] But maybe, so my point being, maybe in this world,

[00:13:09] like, you know, Jen's mom has that like tech power where she

[00:13:13] just like she can do all kinds of tech stuff even though

[00:13:17] she doesn't understand it.

[00:13:19] Like I can see a world where Carrie thought this guy

[00:13:21] really could do that and then because she was so nervous

[00:13:24] to be buying drugs and didn't realize until later like,

[00:13:27] oh, duh.

[00:13:28] Like that was, he just kept my 30 pounds.

[00:13:31] Maybe I don't know.

[00:13:33] I love Carrie and I can't, I can't see her stupid.

[00:13:37] So I have to make up reasons for it.

[00:13:39] I, again, I appreciate all the effort that they are going

[00:13:44] to with the show and they are putting,

[00:13:47] but I personally think that it's lazy writing and is,

[00:13:52] we're going for the cheap laugh and then,

[00:13:56] like, hey, no, nothing's below the surface whatsoever.

[00:14:00] It's just cheap laugh and we're not going to,

[00:14:02] we're not going to give some sort of explanation as to why

[00:14:05] this is a, like, I might think this is possible as this

[00:14:09] smart person that I love.

[00:14:11] And yes, Carrie, I love you.

[00:14:14] And then I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to,

[00:14:18] I'm going to just throw the grenade out there.

[00:14:23] The post credit scene made this even,

[00:14:28] it pissed me off even more.

[00:14:30] Like it made everything that happened even more ridiculous

[00:14:35] and over the top and it nullified any of the smart jokes

[00:14:42] that were written into the storyline.

[00:14:47] If she wasn't on, like, why would her,

[00:14:50] why would her people be so big?

[00:14:52] Why would, you know, why would she,

[00:14:55] I mean, sure, maybe, maybe you probably see them all,

[00:14:58] which I'm not sure what the equivalent here,

[00:15:01] if it's Ivy profiler to see a minifin or whatever.

[00:15:04] But yeah, I think it's basically Tylenol.

[00:15:06] Yeah. So like, why would that give you these other

[00:15:09] physical effects? Why was she hallucinating?

[00:15:12] Why was she all of the things,

[00:15:14] the power of suggestion?

[00:15:16] Well, she wasn't floating.

[00:15:17] She was holding herself up with her arms.

[00:15:19] She was locked up and that's what she couldn't get down.

[00:15:22] Oh, I thought she was levitating.

[00:15:24] And I was like, is this a new power?

[00:15:26] What is happening?

[00:15:27] She was just literally holding herself up,

[00:15:29] but her arms were locked and then she couldn't get down.

[00:15:31] Why was it all the way where all of her muscles tense?

[00:15:33] Like if it was on some drug that she didn't know,

[00:15:36] okay, you know what?

[00:15:37] Hey, we can make the assumption

[00:15:41] that whatever drugs happen, make them do whatever.

[00:15:46] But taking that away, the common,

[00:15:50] I'll use the word trope of,

[00:15:54] oh, they thought they were on drugs,

[00:15:56] but they really weren't.

[00:15:57] Ha ha ha.

[00:15:58] Like it just, it cut the legs out from under her.

[00:16:02] Why she almost got fired?

[00:16:04] Why she had to take a drug test.

[00:16:08] Why is she like...

[00:16:09] Destroyed a priceless work of art.

[00:16:12] Yeah.

[00:16:13] It just, it just, it absolutely infuriated me.

[00:16:17] And I think, I don't know if it's lazy writing

[00:16:20] or maybe they think that people aren't actually watching this

[00:16:23] and using their brains, but I don't want to shit on the show

[00:16:28] because I do enjoy it.

[00:16:30] But watching it for a second time

[00:16:33] and thinking any more deeply than the surface

[00:16:38] pissed me the fuck off.

[00:16:41] All right.

[00:16:42] So I will step down off of my soapbox.

[00:16:45] That's all very fair.

[00:16:49] Well, as long as we are at Harry's office

[00:16:53] and talking about that whole storyline,

[00:16:56] I have a few things that I observed about it.

[00:17:00] First of all, why doesn't Cash's suit fit him?

[00:17:04] He is a 25 year old man.

[00:17:07] He's wearing like a comically oversized suit.

[00:17:10] Does he think he's in a new Jack swing video?

[00:17:12] What is happening?

[00:17:14] It's like, he has these huge shoulder pads.

[00:17:17] Is he like a member of Talking Heads?

[00:17:19] Like it made him look ludicrous.

[00:17:22] And I know we're supposed to think Cash is ludicrous,

[00:17:24] but he's also like a good looking guy.

[00:17:28] I think he would know how to wear a suit that fits him

[00:17:31] after being on this planet for 25 years.

[00:17:34] Anyway, on the other hand,

[00:17:38] Carrie's work outfit was chic as fuck.

[00:17:41] She was wearing this like purple and I don't know if it was silk

[00:17:44] or suede.

[00:17:46] It looked like silk to me that was like a raw silk that was

[00:17:49] treated so it had a texture to it.

[00:17:51] It was really gorgeous.

[00:17:53] And then this like pale gold blouse underneath with this loose

[00:17:56] scarf neck was really, I thought chic.

[00:17:58] I was thinking like, oh, Diana would have approved that

[00:18:01] blouse and the purple and gold together.

[00:18:04] But then she wears the most batship footwear

[00:18:07] and legwear.

[00:18:08] She was wearing these like bright purple thigh high socks

[00:18:12] that had like ribbon bow like garters on them.

[00:18:16] It was so, it looked like something from like a school

[00:18:20] girl porn.

[00:18:21] Did she take those off?

[00:18:23] Because I noticed when she, when she was up on the table

[00:18:28] or leaning up against the table, it looked like she was

[00:18:31] like, like Cash went over to the sink and she like turned

[00:18:36] around and it looked, I mean, it just looked oddly

[00:18:38] suggestive to me.

[00:18:40] And I seem to remember that her legs were bare from her

[00:18:43] skirt down.

[00:18:45] Now maybe I was just like, oh, that's, oh, she's still in

[00:18:49] her tarts outfit.

[00:18:51] Yeah.

[00:18:52] But I mean, it was kind of a short skirt and there was

[00:18:54] definitely skin visible between the top of the socks

[00:18:57] and the bottom of the skirt.

[00:18:59] But I don't remember them being off.

[00:19:01] I do remember that the shoes she was wearing were real

[00:19:04] ugly, clunky, lug sole, loafer type shoes that were

[00:19:08] very in in the early to mid nineties and are quite

[00:19:13] unattractive.

[00:19:15] But when they were in, I did wear them a lot because

[00:19:17] those big thick soles like the chunk heel is comfortable

[00:19:22] to walk in and dance in.

[00:19:24] And if you're a city person in your twenties, that's

[00:19:28] awesome.

[00:19:29] So much better than stiletto heels, which are much more

[00:19:31] elegant visually, but hell on your legs.

[00:19:34] And then when she goes to buy drugs, she's wearing this

[00:19:37] like metallic, like antique gold trench coat thing.

[00:19:41] And I was like, I want to take it through the screen.

[00:19:43] Give it to me.

[00:19:44] Oh, so beautiful.

[00:19:46] Ruin by the shoes, of course.

[00:19:49] And then it's so funny because I've seen now Sophia

[00:19:52] Oxtonham and how she looks when she's not playing

[00:19:55] Carrie.

[00:19:56] And she does this hilarious thing with her posture

[00:19:59] and she sort of hunches forward and rolls her shoulders

[00:20:02] forward to make Carrie look so socially awkward because

[00:20:07] she actually is gorgeous.

[00:20:09] And so she's doing this thing to like lessen the impact

[00:20:12] of her beauty.

[00:20:13] And it's the same thing they do.

[00:20:15] I think they like draw her features like downward a little

[00:20:19] bit with makeup to make her less pretty than she is in

[00:20:25] real life because I think with just the tiniest changes,

[00:20:29] Carrie would be too pretty for the role.

[00:20:32] You know, I can see that.

[00:20:33] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:20:34] It wouldn't be believable.

[00:20:36] So they have to awkward her up and the posture is a huge

[00:20:38] part of it.

[00:20:39] And so funny to me because she's wearing these really

[00:20:41] stylish bold clothes.

[00:20:43] And then she's like walking around like she's embarrassed.

[00:20:46] I don't know.

[00:20:47] It's like a cognitive dissonance.

[00:20:49] I get that.

[00:20:50] Yeah.

[00:20:51] No, absolutely.

[00:20:52] And she does a phenomenal job as we've seen where playing going

[00:20:56] from one character to another in an instant.

[00:20:58] And I get it.

[00:20:59] It's not in an actual instant, but it's, you know,

[00:21:02] in the show, it's in an instant and she, the posture

[00:21:05] changes, the voice change.

[00:21:07] I mean, her voice, but like the, the just look at her

[00:21:13] face changes is phenomenal.

[00:21:15] Yeah, everything about it.

[00:21:17] I think Cash got a job at Carrie's work because he genuinely

[00:21:22] wants to impress her or because he is in able to be independent

[00:21:30] at all and he needs his mommy to be at his job.

[00:21:33] I think, or is he fucking with her?

[00:21:36] Like, I can't kind of the same way that you were saying like,

[00:21:40] he's a good looking guy and he's actually charming.

[00:21:44] I mean, like, I've been to many times.

[00:21:46] I don't think his, his attitude.

[00:21:49] I don't think his thought process is that I'm going to fuck with her.

[00:21:52] I think he's honestly like, he used the words.

[00:21:57] I use my own, and I can't remember not my own innovation,

[00:22:01] but he, when he was talking about, hey,

[00:22:04] Oh, initiative.

[00:22:05] Yeah.

[00:22:06] Of my own initiative.

[00:22:07] I went and did this.

[00:22:09] And that's the part like if he was trying to fuck with her.

[00:22:12] Okay.

[00:22:13] I could, I could see that.

[00:22:14] But it's like he was obviously, oh, sorry.

[00:22:19] It appeared like he was obviously embarrassed about the,

[00:22:21] the Xerox pages coming out too big.

[00:22:24] They came out too big.

[00:22:25] I don't want to talk about them.

[00:22:26] They came out too big.

[00:22:27] Like it just, it doesn't seem like he's trying to fuck with her.

[00:22:31] It seems like he's overly inept and not just inept,

[00:22:35] but actively working against what it is that she's trying to do.

[00:22:39] And if this was Carrie's job.

[00:22:44] And now she just is to listen to load.

[00:22:48] Is she still struggling with the same job that she had before?

[00:22:52] Maybe because she's having to redo cash's work because she thought it

[00:22:55] was, it was going to be done already.

[00:22:57] But like,

[00:22:59] she just seemed to be struggling significantly more with the,

[00:23:04] the load that should have been about the same.

[00:23:07] So like, I understand the, the idea of.

[00:23:12] The idea of thinking that something's going to be done and then you're

[00:23:15] pressed for time in order to get something completed or,

[00:23:18] and then, hey, and now I have to leave work.

[00:23:22] To go buy drugs, to plant on my ex-boyfriend's desk.

[00:23:27] Like just the whole concept of it was very,

[00:23:31] I just think poorly done.

[00:23:34] Yeah, really.

[00:23:35] No offense, boys. No offense.

[00:23:37] Poorly done.

[00:23:38] Not,

[00:23:40] love the show.

[00:23:41] The best way to get somebody fired either.

[00:23:45] I mean, she could just tell them he's a mess and,

[00:23:49] and get him let go.

[00:23:50] I mean, you know, like the honesty would have worked.

[00:23:53] He's my ex-boyfriend and he's disorganized.

[00:23:55] This is a conflict of interest.

[00:23:56] I can't, I can't have him working for me.

[00:23:58] Yeah.

[00:23:59] Like, yeah.

[00:24:00] And, and you're, like you're saying at 25, like I get it.

[00:24:04] All right.

[00:24:05] So I do, there are a couple of other what I felt highlights in,

[00:24:09] in the cash carry storyline.

[00:24:13] I loved the icebreaker.

[00:24:17] I'm going to call it ice break or circle, circle jerk.

[00:24:20] I hate those.

[00:24:21] They are the most awkward and most inappropriate.

[00:24:24] Like this was, I have my note is this seems borderline,

[00:24:29] like not good.

[00:24:31] Like the borderline like an ethical to make people talk about

[00:24:35] their power or make them do whatever.

[00:24:38] Like, hey, I can kill someone by just thinking it.

[00:24:42] That's not scary at all.

[00:24:44] Yeah.

[00:24:45] I can change gender and will okay.

[00:24:48] Maybe there's, there may be some sort of privacy act type

[00:24:52] stuff.

[00:24:53] I can tell exactly when people are going to get to the

[00:24:55] periods.

[00:24:56] That's fucking creepy.

[00:24:57] That joke did not land with me.

[00:24:59] I am generally not a fan of period humor.

[00:25:03] In the first season, they had the tampon game and they turned

[00:25:09] what I thought was a cheap joke into something special because

[00:25:12] of how the boys built that whole like tampon city at the

[00:25:16] end.

[00:25:17] What I loved about that bit was that it was just Lord

[00:25:21] learning.

[00:25:22] It turned into, it was a, it was a wonderful young woman

[00:25:26] coming and, oh, honey, let me help you out.

[00:25:29] Which I know I've mentioned it to you before, but the Disney

[00:25:35] Plus show Baymax post big hero six, they did an episode on

[00:25:40] periods and it was amazing.

[00:25:42] It was a very similar scene where Baymax is going and

[00:25:45] trying to buy tampons and pads for a young girl who got

[00:25:49] our first period and it is hysterical, especially in

[00:25:54] comparison to this one.

[00:25:55] He's like, oh, these are the same, the same scene.

[00:25:57] It's great.

[00:25:58] Yeah.

[00:25:59] Anyway.

[00:26:00] Yeah.

[00:26:01] So that scene ended up being great and there was a little

[00:26:04] funny callback to it.

[00:26:05] I thought when we found out that, that just Lord used to

[00:26:08] be a structural engineer, I was like, oh, that's why he

[00:26:11] built that whole thing.

[00:26:12] Oh yeah.

[00:26:13] No, that's, yeah.

[00:26:14] That's a good point.

[00:26:15] Building things.

[00:26:16] But there were, there were two, there was another

[00:26:19] period joke.

[00:26:20] There was like, yeah.

[00:26:21] Jen went into Nora's purse and made some crack about her

[00:26:24] tampons being like super whatever.

[00:26:26] I just don't find that kind of thing funny.

[00:26:29] It's not like, ooh, we're talking about tampons.

[00:26:31] It's so edgy.

[00:26:32] I feel like that was 20 years ago.

[00:26:34] Tampon humor was edgy and now it's just, it's just

[00:26:37] like, yeah, okay.

[00:26:39] Whatever.

[00:26:40] And then yeah, the guy, what I did enjoy was the

[00:26:44] guy who can like pop out of invisibility.

[00:26:48] I think he was phasing through the wall.

[00:26:50] I feel like he was phasing through the wall.

[00:26:52] Oh, maybe yeah.

[00:26:54] But calling out the other guy for being a GDPR violation

[00:26:57] when I'm like, dude, you are a walking GDPR violation.

[00:27:01] GDPR stands for, oh wait, I know this.

[00:27:06] I mean, private records or personal records.

[00:27:08] I imagine the last PR privacy regulation.

[00:27:11] Okay.

[00:27:13] I should know this because I spent years working on GDPR

[00:27:17] changes for my company.

[00:27:19] But basically it's Europe's overarching privacy law.

[00:27:25] HIPAA is specific to health information.

[00:27:30] Gotcha.

[00:27:31] GDPR covers all kinds of privacy information, all of your

[00:27:35] personal data and there's multiple parts of it.

[00:27:38] If anybody actually wants to know, give me a call.

[00:27:41] I could talk you through it.

[00:27:43] I loved the shout out to it because I was like, it's a law firm.

[00:27:46] They would be worried about GDPR and saying, hey, that's a GDPR

[00:27:49] violation is just, it's something that I've said to people

[00:27:52] in conversation at my old job as a joke when like we're

[00:27:56] getting into like some conversation that's like weird

[00:27:58] or whatever.

[00:27:59] I'll be like, hey, that's a GDPR violation.

[00:28:01] The same way you'll hear people wrongly claim that

[00:28:04] certain things are wrong.

[00:28:06] The same way you'll hear people wrongly claim that certain

[00:28:10] things are HIPAA violations.

[00:28:12] Like you can't ask me about like to wear a mask because

[00:28:16] there's a lot of people who have wrong ideas about HIPAA in

[00:28:18] the U S.

[00:28:19] That's not what it does.

[00:28:21] But the joke landed, that was like one of the jokes that

[00:28:24] landed with me and I think only because of my personal

[00:28:27] history with GDPR.

[00:28:29] Yeah.

[00:28:30] Global data privacy regulation, general data privacy

[00:28:34] regulation.

[00:28:35] Okay.

[00:28:36] Maybe it could be protection.

[00:28:39] Okay.

[00:28:40] Weird that I don't remember this.

[00:28:42] Anyway.

[00:28:43] All right.

[00:28:44] So, so that was let me see.

[00:28:47] Feel like that was about it as far as yeah, that's

[00:28:53] I the only other thing I had was that I really enjoyed

[00:28:59] the way they went for the tripping your ass off.

[00:29:02] Yeah.

[00:29:03] And I think that was really cool.

[00:29:05] I mean, I thought they were really cool.

[00:29:07] The idea of the people's heads being like on a screen that

[00:29:10] was their head.

[00:29:11] I don't know it was really.

[00:29:12] So I thought the visual there is visuals there were

[00:29:15] good.

[00:29:16] Yeah.

[00:29:17] And, and I did actually enjoy the high carry and cash

[00:29:22] conversation.

[00:29:24] Your pupils are huge.

[00:29:26] Oh, I've been having to do all this work for this

[00:29:29] ass named cash.

[00:29:30] And I'm cash.

[00:29:31] Well, good for you.

[00:29:33] Oh, carry sounds like a fucking bitch.

[00:29:35] You're carry.

[00:29:36] Oh, but she carry has a point.

[00:29:38] Like I thought that that back and forth was actually

[00:29:40] really entertaining and funny.

[00:29:42] Yeah.

[00:29:43] But, but, you know, it was like a couple of high

[00:29:45] points in what in the, in a storyline that I just

[00:29:50] wasn't a big fan of and I thought had a lot of

[00:29:52] plot holes or.

[00:29:53] Yeah.

[00:29:54] All right, we're going to take a quick break.

[00:29:57] We'll be right back.

[00:29:58] Stay with us.

[00:29:59] And we are back.

[00:30:02] Now, let's go ahead and move on to let's do jazz and

[00:30:07] Alfie because there's not a ton to it, but there's

[00:30:10] some good stuff.

[00:30:11] I think it's adorable how much jazz wants to connect

[00:30:14] with his son and how he's like, I'm going to

[00:30:16] bond with that kid so hard.

[00:30:18] That was a great line.

[00:30:20] It was really cute and the bubble wrap.

[00:30:23] I mean, I'm trying to appreciate the apartment.

[00:30:25] What?

[00:30:26] Yeah.

[00:30:28] The only the best child proving joke I saw recently

[00:30:30] was somebody on, I think it was on Instagram was

[00:30:33] like, well, I child proof the apartment, but my kids

[00:30:36] keep getting in.

[00:30:39] That's fair.

[00:30:42] All right.

[00:30:43] So, so just, you know, I'm going to bond with

[00:30:46] them so hard.

[00:30:47] I'm going to have a, I'm going to have a catch

[00:30:49] with my smooth with Alfie with my boy and he

[00:30:51] throws the glove at him and I noticed that it

[00:30:53] was on his wrong hand.

[00:30:54] It was like on his right hand when it's a

[00:30:56] left hand, you know, it goes on his left hand.

[00:30:58] And then I thought, I did think that was funny.

[00:31:00] And then Alfie's like, ah, you know, like

[00:31:02] hides behind Nora.

[00:31:03] The, uh, the idea that hey, I'm looking for the

[00:31:07] cat food and like, I was confused by the

[00:31:10] conversation too because like, but the salmon

[00:31:14] is much more, you know, tastes more fresh.

[00:31:17] And oh, that's just whatever.

[00:31:20] I'm like, what is happening?

[00:31:22] Oh, okay.

[00:31:23] On again, on second watch, I, I kind of

[00:31:25] got the gaps a little bit more, but on first

[00:31:27] watch I was really like, I don't know what the

[00:31:29] hell is happening.

[00:31:30] Yeah.

[00:31:31] I was right there with Jen when I was like, huh?

[00:31:33] Yeah.

[00:31:34] Oh, telepathy.

[00:31:35] That's my gift.

[00:31:36] Of course it is.

[00:31:37] Right.

[00:31:38] I mean, it's yeah.

[00:31:39] Yeah.

[00:31:40] Um, but, uh, just like you guys have something

[00:31:43] in common.

[00:31:44] Oh, we both care for you.

[00:31:46] You're both bottom heavy.

[00:31:47] Oh, Lord.

[00:31:48] I was like, oh, never say that to a woman or

[00:31:51] anyone.

[00:31:52] Luke Rawlison's face in basically every scene

[00:31:57] that he was in was perfect.

[00:32:00] It was, he was the facial acting that he had.

[00:32:04] It was just like, that seemed to have gone

[00:32:06] well and he's just got this bright innocent

[00:32:08] look on his face.

[00:32:10] One big happy family.

[00:32:11] And like, I just, uh, I'm all my boy.

[00:32:16] Uh, every, every facial expression that he

[00:32:19] made was absolutely appropriate to a

[00:32:22] vacuous, uh, person trying to do the right thing.

[00:32:27] He's so childlike in his approach to the

[00:32:30] world.

[00:32:31] And now that we've met Nora, I feel like I

[00:32:34] understand why he doesn't want to go back to

[00:32:37] his old life.

[00:32:38] Even if he doesn't remember it, like he

[00:32:40] left for a reason.

[00:32:42] He needed to escape.

[00:32:43] Well, and that is like a, we'll get into it

[00:32:46] when we get into Nora.

[00:32:47] Um, but, uh, I can appreciate the, the idea of

[00:32:51] taking a ball licking gap year.

[00:32:53] Um, which I was, again, on second watch is when

[00:32:57] I caught, oh, ball licking because it's

[00:32:59] easy.

[00:33:00] He's a cat not because it's a like just a

[00:33:03] really shitty ball licking.

[00:33:06] Like that.

[00:33:07] Oh, that looks balls.

[00:33:08] No, it's disgusting.

[00:33:09] It's horrible.

[00:33:10] No, no, it's literally ball licking.

[00:33:12] Um, uh, daddy sleeps in the

[00:33:15] bath.

[00:33:16] No, daddy's just being funny.

[00:33:18] Is daddy homeless?

[00:33:19] Oh, no.

[00:33:21] Right.

[00:33:22] It was, it was funny.

[00:33:24] Like, yeah.

[00:33:25] Um, all right.

[00:33:26] Then Al, yeah, Alfie and just playing the

[00:33:29] fact that he's like, oh, see daddy's

[00:33:31] daddy's an engineer.

[00:33:32] He builds things.

[00:33:33] He's not scary at all.

[00:33:34] He would never throw a glove at you.

[00:33:36] Yeah.

[00:33:37] Just has no filter.

[00:33:39] And I'm like, oh, I'm going to throw

[00:33:41] a glove at you.

[00:33:42] Yeah.

[00:33:43] Just has no filter and he just says

[00:33:46] all the things that he thinks of

[00:33:48] right whenever he's talking and

[00:33:50] it makes him so trustworthy because

[00:33:53] you know, he's not capable of being

[00:33:56] deceitful.

[00:33:57] You can trust him to be honest.

[00:34:01] You cannot trust him with things

[00:34:04] that you don't want told to other

[00:34:07] people, ie.

[00:34:08] Oh, she's threatened by you because

[00:34:10] we've had this like, oh yeah.

[00:34:13] She went to this when he told us

[00:34:15] her mom about it, right?

[00:34:16] About the clinic.

[00:34:19] Yeah.

[00:34:20] You know about it.

[00:34:21] Yeah.

[00:34:22] Oh, she's just really uncomfortable

[00:34:23] because she didn't want you to know

[00:34:24] about it because her sister got

[00:34:25] her power and she really doesn't

[00:34:27] like that because it makes her feel

[00:34:28] bad.

[00:34:29] But oh yeah, she's starting by

[00:34:31] you because we have all this

[00:34:32] history and we've only been

[00:34:33] dating for a week and.

[00:34:35] Oh, yeah.

[00:34:39] Let me see what else we got.

[00:34:41] He does have a little bit of the

[00:34:43] what they call verbal diarrhea.

[00:34:44] Yeah.

[00:34:45] Oh, that is.

[00:34:46] Uncontrollable.

[00:34:47] I feel like I feel like he is.

[00:34:49] He is a prime example of that.

[00:34:51] And then even like he when he

[00:34:53] said something right, right?

[00:34:55] I remember the first time that

[00:34:56] I don't remember any of that.

[00:34:57] I remember the first time that

[00:34:58] you had pink nails and the

[00:35:00] sun was in your hair.

[00:35:02] And I remember the first thing

[00:35:03] you said to me.

[00:35:05] Like it was.

[00:35:08] Like, yes.

[00:35:10] At that point he was thinking

[00:35:12] the right things and he was

[00:35:14] thinking of he was explaining

[00:35:16] why what he like.

[00:35:17] Oh yeah, this was actually good

[00:35:19] and what it was matched up with

[00:35:21] what Jen wanted to hear, which

[00:35:23] is great.

[00:35:25] But then like the again

[00:35:28] back to.

[00:35:30] Common tropes that I just thought

[00:35:32] for me didn't land where it was

[00:35:34] the speed up guy.

[00:35:37] And then he was like, oh,

[00:35:39] he was like over speeding

[00:35:41] Alfie.

[00:35:43] When he was like, oh, the kid

[00:35:45] and he just starts aging him.

[00:35:47] Like at no point did he ask

[00:35:49] how much aging do you want or

[00:35:51] anything?

[00:35:53] Again, again, it seems like

[00:35:55] the jokes were written.

[00:35:57] That for the immediate laugh

[00:35:59] and.

[00:36:01] Hey, don't ask any questions.

[00:36:03] Yeah, not the cleverness that

[00:36:05] I thought that.

[00:36:07] Even in episode one, there were

[00:36:09] there were jokes that were more

[00:36:11] in depth. I mean, we talked for

[00:36:13] a while about you know, and how

[00:36:15] much we enjoyed it and

[00:36:17] these just didn't land for me.

[00:36:19] I think specifically because they

[00:36:21] were either in my opinion out of

[00:36:23] character and kind of

[00:36:25] just.

[00:36:27] They didn't make any sense.

[00:36:29] So similarly for me once the guy

[00:36:31] had sped Alfie up and Alfie was

[00:36:33] you know, old man.

[00:36:35] The fact that they then were like, well, let's

[00:36:37] take him to the playground.

[00:36:39] I didn't buy that for a second. I thought it was

[00:36:41] so weird that they that they weren't

[00:36:43] at all panicked about having aged

[00:36:45] them that they didn't try to like

[00:36:47] call cash to come back and

[00:36:49] you know, reverse time somehow or

[00:36:51] right. There was none of that. They just

[00:36:53] were like, all right, let's go to the playground.

[00:36:55] And

[00:36:57] then the scenes at the playground that

[00:36:59] they just weren't that funny. It seemed like

[00:37:01] haha, old man on a swing. That's hilarious.

[00:37:03] But like I don't find that funny.

[00:37:05] That's just an old man on a swing.

[00:37:07] Oh, is he dead? Oh, no, he's okay.

[00:37:09] Sweet. And then Jen,

[00:37:11] you know, slapping it on the back and

[00:37:13] then he wakes up and then I did

[00:37:15] I did find the band-aids

[00:37:17] on all of the boo boo's.

[00:37:19] Yeah, that was cute.

[00:37:21] I mean, I found it.

[00:37:23] It was reminiscent of me and my kids.

[00:37:25] So like I

[00:37:27] that was like the one part. Although

[00:37:29] I did say he fell down. He went down a slide

[00:37:31] and like that was like

[00:37:33] four feet in the air and he

[00:37:35] got a but like

[00:37:37] I just did again.

[00:37:39] I'm not trying to inject reality into

[00:37:41] a fantasy TV show.

[00:37:43] It just it was this stuff. It's hard for me to get

[00:37:45] past. Yeah, I agree

[00:37:47] with you. The

[00:37:49] parts that did work for me

[00:37:51] were

[00:37:53] were the

[00:37:55] the Jen Internet stocking

[00:37:57] Nora part. Yeah, no, I get that

[00:37:59] where she went all the way

[00:38:01] back on her Instagram and then

[00:38:03] you know showed Carrie and Carrie

[00:38:05] is like I'll hate her because I'm your best friend or whatever

[00:38:07] and she's like don't go down a rabbit hole

[00:38:09] and then of course Jen goes down

[00:38:11] the rabbit hole and by the time

[00:38:13] Carrie wakes up, Jen is like has gone

[00:38:15] completely obsessive

[00:38:17] compulsive like serial color

[00:38:19] killer bulletin board

[00:38:21] string the whole bit about

[00:38:23] this meek and osu! magnet which

[00:38:25] it just was so

[00:38:27] believable

[00:38:29] as something that

[00:38:31] anybody in that situation would do

[00:38:33] and I will say

[00:38:35] that made me laugh

[00:38:37] it was funny it was funny

[00:38:39] it it hit

[00:38:41] where a majority of the rest of the show

[00:38:43] didn't or a lot of the other jokes

[00:38:45] not the show but the jokes

[00:38:47] it landed with me

[00:38:49] and the you cannot

[00:38:51] tell me this makes economical sense

[00:38:53] and like Jen's just like

[00:38:55] like the look in

[00:38:57] Mary Tire's eyes

[00:38:59] is just like the crazy eyes

[00:39:01] with the like I've been awake all night

[00:39:03] yeah like all of that

[00:39:05] clipped for me

[00:39:07] and I thought that was

[00:39:09] great

[00:39:11] but

[00:39:13] alright before our last plotline we'll take one more quick

[00:39:15] break and we'll be right back

[00:39:17] alright so we on to

[00:39:19] Jen and Nora

[00:39:21] yeah let's talk Jen and Nora

[00:39:23] alright Jen and Nora

[00:39:25] could they be more different from each other

[00:39:27] yeah

[00:39:29] like they are

[00:39:31] literally

[00:39:33] no not literally but figuratively

[00:39:35] oppositional characters

[00:39:37] they

[00:39:39] do not

[00:39:41] do the same they're not the same type of person

[00:39:43] they are not they are

[00:39:45] very their polar opposites

[00:39:47] of just the

[00:39:49] types of people that you could in fact

[00:39:51] date

[00:39:53] and so Nora is

[00:39:55] a youtube sensation

[00:39:57] or whatever the show

[00:39:59] wrote out instagram or whatever

[00:40:01] whatever they were talking about

[00:40:03] I think she's an influencer

[00:40:05] so she has 150,000 followers

[00:40:07] and oh

[00:40:09] do you remember what she was called

[00:40:11] did you have the written down

[00:40:13] I think it's a good life

[00:40:15] no a simple life well lived

[00:40:17] yeah simple life well lived yep

[00:40:19] oh she's a simple life well lived

[00:40:21] you know what

[00:40:23] she's constantly

[00:40:25] put together she's got advice

[00:40:27] things she probably makes some

[00:40:29] money with regard to that

[00:40:31] which is why I think

[00:40:33] that turning her into the villain

[00:40:35] makes it work

[00:40:37] I think that is a brilliant way

[00:40:39] of doing it and then the telepathy

[00:40:41] that you can't

[00:40:43] it's like the term veiled threat

[00:40:45] right a veiled threat is veiled

[00:40:47] so that someone can deny

[00:40:49] oh did you are you just

[00:40:51] imagining my voice in your head Jen

[00:40:53] is this your own guilt for having taken my husband

[00:40:55] like

[00:40:57] it's everything is deniable

[00:40:59] it is plausible deniability

[00:41:01] uh

[00:41:03] you really think that I talked to her head

[00:41:05] what Nora doesn't know

[00:41:07] is that that is

[00:41:09] exactly what Jen needed

[00:41:11] to come blazing

[00:41:13] out and fight for her man

[00:41:15] right like if Nora had

[00:41:17] continued to be unassailably

[00:41:19] perfect Jen

[00:41:21] would not have known what to do with

[00:41:23] herself or how to address

[00:41:25] it but knowing that

[00:41:27] Nora is like

[00:41:29] has challenged her like this like

[00:41:31] there's part of Jen that was like

[00:41:33] okay now I know where I belong in this picture

[00:41:35] and I know what to do even though

[00:41:37] I'm sure Jen doesn't actually know what to do

[00:41:39] she doesn't know what to do she knows

[00:41:41] what she needs to do at least in general

[00:41:43] she's more comfortable in this role

[00:41:45] than she would have been in this

[00:41:47] like let's all get along role

[00:41:49] she was very uncomfortable with that

[00:41:51] this is like when she's like I fucking knew it

[00:41:53] there was this moment

[00:41:55] where it was like she was also like thank god

[00:41:57] because I couldn't deal with perfect Nora

[00:41:59] I know how to act

[00:42:01] in this situation

[00:42:03] I did not know how to act in the previous situation

[00:42:05] now

[00:42:07] I'm in my comfort zone

[00:42:09] and I'm like I can't deal with this

[00:42:11] you a bitch

[00:42:13] I need to fucking fix you

[00:42:15] and

[00:42:17] seeing Jen come out of her shell

[00:42:19] towards the end having her be

[00:42:21] Jen again

[00:42:23] was nice

[00:42:25] it was good

[00:42:27] I will say that

[00:42:29] just some of the items that

[00:42:31] we had discussed

[00:42:33] a little bit

[00:42:35] I would just say every scene with them was wildly

[00:42:37] and

[00:42:39] nice Nora and nice Jen

[00:42:41] even though

[00:42:43] I thought that the

[00:42:45] why are we so good together

[00:42:47] how did he get so hot

[00:42:49] why are you fucking my husband

[00:42:51] in the dead silence

[00:42:53] I felt like that timing was perfect

[00:42:55] they left it quiet

[00:42:57] just long enough

[00:42:59] like family guy would have gone an extra 12 seconds

[00:43:01] but

[00:43:03] this one was perfect

[00:43:05] I'm just messing with you

[00:43:07] I'm just joking Jen

[00:43:09] I mean

[00:43:11] you don't throw that out there

[00:43:13] unless you mean it a little bit

[00:43:15] which is one of the things that you like make

[00:43:17] I mean and then

[00:43:19] when real Nora comes out at the end

[00:43:21] she drops the C word

[00:43:23] and I'm like oh shit

[00:43:25] shit just got real

[00:43:27] and then

[00:43:29] the next one was where

[00:43:31] Jizz was looking for the

[00:43:33] I keep saying Jizz

[00:43:35] like it's a normal name

[00:43:37] Jizz was looking for the cat food

[00:43:39] and

[00:43:41] oh why do you want that because it helps me turn into a cat

[00:43:43] what

[00:43:45] and we had our own secret language

[00:43:47] she's like putting her hand on him

[00:43:49] it was very very familiar

[00:43:51] yeah

[00:43:53] but it was

[00:43:55] yes it was very very

[00:43:57] possessive

[00:43:59] and it was very much how

[00:44:01] you name a wild animal

[00:44:03] how you tame

[00:44:05] how you domesticate

[00:44:07] using the words that she used

[00:44:09] I domesticated that man to do exactly what I wanted

[00:44:11] and you can't come in here with your perfect

[00:44:13] perky tits

[00:44:15] and I was

[00:44:17] honestly I was like

[00:44:19] oh Jen's gonna take out of that

[00:44:21] oh you think I have perky tits very nice thank you

[00:44:23] like yeah

[00:44:25] and I was like yes she was domesticated

[00:44:27] she's doing it again

[00:44:29] I'm very simply very

[00:44:31] oh this is what I do I care

[00:44:33] these are the things that I

[00:44:35] and just the vindictiveness

[00:44:37] of her telepathic conversation

[00:44:39] when I

[00:44:41] fuck him and I will

[00:44:43] I will think of you

[00:44:45] being sad and alone and I will

[00:44:47] come like a landmine

[00:44:49] I was like god damn

[00:44:51] like Jesus

[00:44:53] it was so good I'm sorry to step on

[00:44:55] the reading of

[00:44:57] it was so good

[00:44:59] I was like oh shit

[00:45:01] I mean this is what it was all about

[00:45:03] that speech deserves to be pulled apart

[00:45:05] into many different pieces because

[00:45:07] it has so much goodness in it

[00:45:09] so I'll just start at the top

[00:45:11] Jen yeah I'm talking to you

[00:45:13] you fucking idiot do you really

[00:45:15] think I'm cool with this

[00:45:17] that I'm just super chill about my husband

[00:45:19] fucking off for four years to be a cat

[00:45:21] like some ball licking gap year while I pay

[00:45:23] the mortgage and keep that brat alive

[00:45:25] very specifically doesn't

[00:45:27] give a shit about healthy

[00:45:29] yeah

[00:45:31] so that's the first chunk right it's like

[00:45:33] do you think I'm cool with this

[00:45:35] I'm not and it's like

[00:45:37] and the use of the word brat it

[00:45:39] it all sort of allows

[00:45:41] us to start hating Nora

[00:45:43] right along exactly like the audience

[00:45:45] is like oh good thank god

[00:45:47] wanna like her

[00:45:49] well and then she's like

[00:45:51] my favorite line and when he does

[00:45:53] come back he's dating some manic pixie

[00:45:55] dream slut

[00:45:57] oh my god

[00:45:59] manic pixie dream girl

[00:46:01] is one of my favorite things to sort

[00:46:03] of make fun of because

[00:46:05] it's such a 90s early

[00:46:07] 2000s movie trope

[00:46:09] and women started calling it out and now

[00:46:11] there

[00:46:13] it's not as common in movies but still shows

[00:46:15] up it's this like fantasy

[00:46:17] of a woman who is

[00:46:19] you know artsy and

[00:46:21] spontaneous and loose

[00:46:23] morals and you know

[00:46:25] she doesn't have

[00:46:27] a lot of needs because

[00:46:29] she's you know floaty and ephemeral

[00:46:31] and crazy but in a really

[00:46:33] sweet and reasonable and controllable

[00:46:35] kind of way and I

[00:46:37] have sometimes thought that I'm sort of like

[00:46:39] a grown up man manic pixie dream girl

[00:46:41] who like didn't

[00:46:43] didn't have time to be

[00:46:45] manic and pixie all that much

[00:46:47] but her using slut

[00:46:49] instead of girl

[00:46:51] killed me I thought it was so

[00:46:53] funny and so clever and

[00:46:55] I might have to add it to my online dating

[00:46:57] profile

[00:46:59] I did not know that reference

[00:47:01] and so thank you very much for explaining it

[00:47:03] to me I was

[00:47:05] not

[00:47:07] into manic dream pixie

[00:47:09] girl but what was it called

[00:47:11] manic pixie dream girl yeah

[00:47:13] I did not know that that was a thing

[00:47:15] I mean as you talk about it I was like

[00:47:17] oh is that like Ramona flowers

[00:47:19] in Scott Pilgrim vs the World

[00:47:21] 100%

[00:47:23] okay so like now that you say

[00:47:25] it was a totally a thing back in the day I'm like

[00:47:27] oh okay so now I can actually like pick that out

[00:47:29] as like a not just a trope but like

[00:47:31] almost like an archetype

[00:47:33] of character

[00:47:35] and so that's

[00:47:37] cool okay that makes a lot of sense

[00:47:39] that it was at some

[00:47:41] point called out as like this is a

[00:47:43] ridiculous thing there are people who

[00:47:45] are like this but they aren't the

[00:47:47] best

[00:47:49] they are always like the best

[00:47:51] and it's not like a fun adventure to have

[00:47:53] a girlfriend who's

[00:47:55] got a mental illness but that's

[00:47:57] how it's often portrayed in movies is

[00:47:59] like the guy hooks up

[00:48:01] it's always a depressed guy

[00:48:03] who hooks up with this like quirky

[00:48:05] like fun interesting

[00:48:07] girl who has this very conveniently

[00:48:09] quiet mental illness problem where

[00:48:11] sometimes she's sad

[00:48:13] right and

[00:48:15] it helps him learn to

[00:48:17] be alive again a long time

[00:48:19] Polly with Ben Stiller and Jennifer

[00:48:21] Aniston is a good example

[00:48:23] um

[00:48:25] Garden State is a good example

[00:48:27] with Zach Braff and Natalie

[00:48:29] Portman yeah there's

[00:48:31] a bunch of them out there and so

[00:48:33] um it's funny I hadn't

[00:48:35] thought about Jen in those terms

[00:48:37] but as soon as she said it I was like

[00:48:39] oh that is who Jen is

[00:48:41] I can now see

[00:48:43] how that applies to Jen

[00:48:45] who feels like a regular person

[00:48:47] but she's not she knows

[00:48:49] that she's manic and a mess

[00:48:51] and she's also like

[00:48:53] remember that time when she ran into

[00:48:55] Luke and he was like oh you're

[00:48:57] doing something weird and she's like it's Jen she's crazy

[00:48:59] what will she do next

[00:49:01] she plays that role

[00:49:03] um but the use of

[00:49:05] slut just really

[00:49:07] oh god so funny

[00:49:09] that does make it more funny

[00:49:11] yeah and so then Nora says

[00:49:13] I was just going to guilt him into

[00:49:15] being a full-time nanny for that little

[00:49:17] tax credit over there but that's not

[00:49:19] enough you were right about one thing I am

[00:49:21] his owner he belongs to me I spent years

[00:49:23] domesticating that man to do whatever I

[00:49:25] want and you think you can waltz in

[00:49:27] here with your perky tits and no pension

[00:49:29] and have a quirky little fucking

[00:49:31] Wes Anderson love story

[00:49:33] well think again cunt I mean

[00:49:35] quirky little fucking

[00:49:37] Wes Anderson love story

[00:49:39] so yeah royal tenon bombs

[00:49:41] and what was the

[00:49:43] moonrise kingdom

[00:49:45] I never watched moonrise kingdom

[00:49:47] oh it's so good

[00:49:49] that's the most romantic Wes Anderson

[00:49:51] is it not like a couple

[00:49:53] of 12 year olds

[00:49:55] yeah nice but they sort of run

[00:49:57] away together okay it's very

[00:49:59] Wes Andersony

[00:50:01] right it's like two young kids

[00:50:03] who have no ability

[00:50:05] to be realistic about the world and don't

[00:50:07] have any money and they run away together it's

[00:50:09] exactly it's exactly

[00:50:11] gen inches lord so

[00:50:13] speaking of Wes Anderson this is a slight tangent

[00:50:15] but

[00:50:17] have you watched the after party

[00:50:19] oh I love the after party okay

[00:50:21] the Wes Anderson episode

[00:50:23] in season two is one of my favorites

[00:50:25] it is I think it

[00:50:27] is phenomenal

[00:50:29] I'm trying to remember it's the one with the sister

[00:50:31] the sister

[00:50:33] the

[00:50:35] Zach Wood's sister

[00:50:37] yeah the typewriter

[00:50:39] I was like oh this

[00:50:41] this type of

[00:50:43] this is an awesome version

[00:50:45] and they're just sitting quietly

[00:50:47] and talking to each other with no emotion

[00:50:49] in their voice but they're saying

[00:50:51] everything is symmetrical and bright colors

[00:50:53] so Wes Anderson

[00:50:55] I was very very I was like this is one

[00:50:57] of my favorite episodes of this show

[00:50:59] and there's so many good episodes of the after party

[00:51:01] and the variation is really

[00:51:03] what makes it amazing we should totally podcast on that

[00:51:05] but that's assuming we have time for anything

[00:51:07] but we barely have time for this but anyway

[00:51:09] speaking of Manic

[00:51:11] alright so you want to go ahead and finish off

[00:51:13] yeah I'll finish off the

[00:51:15] the speech well think again

[00:51:17] cunt you've taken something from me and

[00:51:19] I'm going to take it back and when I

[00:51:21] fuck him which I will I'll be thinking of you

[00:51:23] alone and sad and I'll come like a

[00:51:25] fucking landmine because I just

[00:51:27] don't like you

[00:51:29] that was like that

[00:51:31] that last part is what got me

[00:51:33] like I was like I will come like a

[00:51:35] fucking landmine I was like god

[00:51:37] to you

[00:51:39] like vengeance sex yeah it's awesome

[00:51:41] and

[00:51:43] the way that

[00:51:45] the story is delivered right

[00:51:47] Nora is smiling

[00:51:49] and talking to

[00:51:51] Gis Lord very you know

[00:51:53] calmly and peacefully about Alfie

[00:51:55] or

[00:51:57] lessons or flute lessons or something really

[00:51:59] benign and

[00:52:01] and the fact that she can carry on to conversations

[00:52:03] at once like that

[00:52:05] shit she is

[00:52:07] she is smart and talented

[00:52:09] and there's a reason why she has 150,000 followers

[00:52:11] yeah

[00:52:13] yeah I is a formidable

[00:52:15] opponent yeah very much

[00:52:17] so

[00:52:19] and let me just say

[00:52:21] I have very good

[00:52:23] power insurance will get this reversed

[00:52:25] I'm like Jesus

[00:52:27] like

[00:52:29] power insurance that's phenomenal

[00:52:31] that is amazing

[00:52:33] I

[00:52:35] I'm not surprised

[00:52:37] that 10 years into

[00:52:39] a world where people have

[00:52:41] powers that the insurance industry has

[00:52:43] managed to you know work their way

[00:52:45] into making a profit off of that oh yeah

[00:52:47] absolutely

[00:52:49] it was yeah but

[00:52:51] that speech was to me

[00:52:53] the best part of the episode

[00:52:55] and

[00:52:57] the amazing

[00:52:59] culmination to

[00:53:01] all of the setup that had happened

[00:53:03] up to that point

[00:53:05] and so that is what we call

[00:53:07] ending on a high note

[00:53:09] which we are doing with both the

[00:53:11] show and the podcast

[00:53:13] not that it's over I'm just saying

[00:53:15] like that was ending with the best

[00:53:17] thing

[00:53:19] I say that but

[00:53:23] it's not really the best thing right

[00:53:25] we have

[00:53:27] one bit of news Penny do you want to

[00:53:29] talk about what the best thing is

[00:53:35] do you mean the fact that

[00:53:37] our show just won

[00:53:39] an award for

[00:53:41] best scripted comedy at the Royal

[00:53:43] Television Society Awards I do

[00:53:45] in fact mean that yes

[00:53:47] it is phenomenal and

[00:53:49] I am so thrilled

[00:53:51] for the writing team except

[00:53:53] like I said for this episode maybe it isn't the one they

[00:53:55] submit but anyway my point being is

[00:53:57] like this like I am so

[00:53:59] thrilled beyond thrilled

[00:54:01] they seemed really

[00:54:03] happy I follow a lot of the

[00:54:05] creators and the actors on Instagram

[00:54:07] and there were a lot of very

[00:54:09] joyful photographs of all

[00:54:11] of them at the awards ceremony

[00:54:13] together and you know

[00:54:15] posing with the award itself

[00:54:17] posing all together

[00:54:19] Luke Roleson as usual had to make

[00:54:21] it silly and awkward and so he had

[00:54:23] a lot of comments about being a puppet boy

[00:54:25] in his like tuxedo

[00:54:27] and he's like I'm trying to look normal

[00:54:29] and not like a puppet boy and then everybody

[00:54:31] else was calling him puppet boy it just

[00:54:33] seemed like all around they had a great

[00:54:35] night and really enjoyed

[00:54:37] winning that award. Mariah

[00:54:39] Tyres was also nominated but she lost

[00:54:41] to somebody

[00:54:43] in a show I have not seen

[00:54:45] so I couldn't know high on whether or not

[00:54:47] so worthy of us. Yeah

[00:54:49] and they are I know that

[00:54:51] Sophia Oxenham

[00:54:53] and Mariah Tyres

[00:54:55] are both nominated for best

[00:54:57] actress in The Baphthas

[00:54:59] which is again

[00:55:01] phenomenal and I'm so glad

[00:55:03] and also the show for best comedy so

[00:55:05] fingers crossed for our team

[00:55:07] right yeah I'm really really hoping

[00:55:09] that they end up pulling that out

[00:55:11] and get a little bit more

[00:55:13] little more play

[00:55:15] maybe we can have Luke back on

[00:55:17] but he may be a little bit too famous

[00:55:19] at that point that's probably not

[00:55:21] true he's probably just gonna be super busy because he was so

[00:55:23] frickin cool

[00:55:25] He's super talented he's constantly

[00:55:27] producing stuff he's got like plays

[00:55:29] and a short film

[00:55:31] on the BBC

[00:55:33] when I started following him on Instagram I was like oh my god

[00:55:35] look at all these tour dates and these plays

[00:55:37] and the whole knit I wish I lived

[00:55:39] in London or at least in the UK

[00:55:41] so I could maybe try to make it one of these this is awesome

[00:55:43] yeah there's a lot going on

[00:55:45] I'm like I want to go see all of these shows

[00:55:47] I want to do all of the things

[00:55:51] but because

[00:55:53] we're a little bit running a little bit late and

[00:55:55] we've had some

[00:55:57] we'll just say some recording miscues

[00:55:59] and some ill timed events

[00:56:01] I know we're running a little bit late

[00:56:03] and we're gonna try to start getting these out

[00:56:05] on a pretty regular basis

[00:56:07] and

[00:56:09] I mean so for the moment though

[00:56:11] we are

[00:56:13] again

[00:56:15] for the most part enjoying the show

[00:56:17] at least I am

[00:56:19] I can't wait to watch the next episode

[00:56:21] yeah I mean the title of the next one

[00:56:23] really looking forward to that

[00:56:25] yeah

[00:56:27] and which I believe is

[00:56:29] oh well we'll cover it here in a couple minutes

[00:56:31] but anyway

[00:56:33] that's the end of our show

[00:56:35] I know that we had feedback comments

[00:56:37] about covering the show in general

[00:56:39] again I

[00:56:41] I've got kids

[00:56:43] that's what I'm saying I've got kids and I'm trying to

[00:56:45] find the time to do this and be

[00:56:47] a good dad so I

[00:56:49] identify with jizz on this

[00:56:51] but

[00:56:53] that's our show thanks for listening everybody

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[00:57:05] you can find links to our social media pages

[00:57:07] and that's where I know

[00:57:09] that the ones who live I cannot

[00:57:11] wait for the season finale

[00:57:13] I'm really looking forward to it

[00:57:15] I thought the first five have been really really good

[00:57:17] I'm not talking

[00:57:19] gonna talk specifics because

[00:57:21] I think it's amazing and I'm really enjoying the coverage

[00:57:23] over on the cast of us

[00:57:25] I've been enjoying that a great deal as well

[00:57:27] and also I have to plug

[00:57:29] my own still slaying a Buffyverse

[00:57:31] podcast we just covered

[00:57:33] the eighties movie heathers

[00:57:35] and if you are a person who likes

[00:57:37] extraordinary

[00:57:39] I think you would also be a person

[00:57:41] that enjoys Buffy the Vampire Slayer

[00:57:43] it's campy, it's funny, it's got

[00:57:45] great witty dialogue there's a little bit of a

[00:57:47] supernatural aspect to it

[00:57:49] just a little bit

[00:57:51] really great fashion

[00:57:53] so I recommend

[00:57:55] just pick

[00:57:57] wherever we are in our coverage you don't need to go back to the beginning

[00:57:59] because the show was written in the 90s

[00:58:01] for broadcast TV

[00:58:03] you'll understand what's going on

[00:58:05] it'll be fun

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[00:58:31] yeah, I like to feel validated

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[00:58:37] but next time on this show

[00:58:39] we'll be covering season 2

[00:58:41] episode 3 the exorcism of

[00:58:43] Carrie Jackson

[00:58:45] I really am curious

[00:58:47] what that's referring to

[00:58:49] but uh

[00:58:51] yeah

[00:58:53] I hope King Charles comes back, I loved him

[00:58:55] was it Charles?

[00:58:57] and you want me to believe

[00:58:59] that whatever could ever buy a

[00:59:01] Mikuno's fridge bag that is Santorini

[00:59:03] it just doesn't give me an economic sense