6. "The Real Powers are the Friends we made along the way" (S1E6)

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, welcome to our podcast. I'm Greg and I'm Penny and this is The Extraordinary Cast, a podcast dedicated to the Hulu and Disney Plus series Extraordinary created by Emma Moran. In this episode we're covering season one episode six, The Real Powers are

[00:00:32] the Friends we made along the way written by Emma Moran and directed by Nadira Amrani. Moving on to a summary of the episode, things are icy and awkward between Jen and Kerry after

[00:00:44] last week's blowout. Jen goes to her free consultation at the Discovery Center and meets Hannah, another 25 year old without a power. The two bond and drink and drink and bond until Hannah starts teleporting, not necessarily in that order, and almost immediately bails on Jen. Kerry

[00:01:02] gets closer to Gizlord who helps her remember the reasons why she is friends with Jen. He comforts her and prods Jen into making conciliatory gestures. And Cash, prodded into action by Kerry, sets out to atone for his to his vigilante squad and ends up reassembling

[00:01:19] them. Kerry and Jen start to repair their friendships over an erotic jigsaw. How'd you like this one, Penny? I love this episode, especially after last week's it was so nice to see that there might be like actual change ahead in Kerry and Jen's lives.

[00:01:44] I think specifically Jen kind of redeemed herself, especially towards the end, although at a couple points in the middle, they're like, Oh yeah, you're still you're still hurt and therefore you are lashing out. But I was actually felt a little bit vindicated because a couple of things I

[00:02:04] mentioned last week came to pass and I will celebrate at the appropriate time. I did, I did. I enjoyed this too. I had a lot of fun listening to this one. The I would say that the the introduction of Hannah was was a great.

[00:02:29] Maybe foil is not the right word, but a great counter to Kerry, someone who's just kind of basically just like Jen, she's feeding her own her own pity and her own anger towards the world. And you put up, put a mirror up to your worst qualities and

[00:02:47] and then what happens when you you end up feeding those worst parts and now we're just backing each other up. Yeah. Definitely. Hannah was an enabler for Jen's sort of most selfish impulses. Yeah. But also I think a valuable experience for her to see maybe what

[00:03:14] it's like to be friends with her. So, right? Like, oh, can't count on her self-centered. You know, a little bit crazy. That's not easy to deal with. Right. Absolutely. I completely agree. What'd you have for your humiliation of the week?

[00:03:34] There were several to choose from as usual, but I have to go with Ade and his arse becoming an NFT and people thinking it was a Banksy and being on the news and that some insurance broker in the Netherlands owns the copyright on his arse.

[00:03:55] I mean, that's forever. Yeah. Like that was pretty out there on the internet forever. And I mean, I don't know. I guess I wouldn't mind people thinking I was a Banksy, but it's a humiliating NFT. Yeah. It's a humiliating way to spend 26 hours. Yeah, it's horrible.

[00:04:15] He was so quick to forgive Cash. Anyway, we'll get into that, but that's mine. How about yours? What's your humiliation of the week? Like I didn't have like that many moments where I was like, oh, God, that was humiliating.

[00:04:31] I would say that like the moment that Cash realizes that Gregor's in his costume. He's been basically backstabbed by somebody that he recruited. Don't get me wrong. I think Cash deserves everything that he gets, but except for Kerry, but that just that like sense of betrayal more than

[00:04:55] humiliation. No one like no one got caught really doing anything horrific this episode. You know, if the security guard had walked in while Jen was peeing on the desk, that probably would have would have been there. You know, if they'd gotten the shake, kicked out of them for

[00:05:14] cutting the ponytail ponytail girls hair off. Yeah, that probably would have matched. But in general, I didn't find too many straight up humiliating moments. Shall we get into our main discussion? Yeah, absolutely. What do you want to start?

[00:05:34] I think I think I want to go back to storylines this week. Yeah, I'm with you. It just it just it just I don't want to miss stuff and there were so many tiny little segments that may not be pulled out.

[00:05:49] Although, you know, I could absolutely pull Hannah as a as a point, but I think we'll just cover her along the way. Yeah. All right. So the first storyline is, you know what? I'm just going to start with the cold open because I thought

[00:06:08] that the the red dot thing, I've been in situations not not as extreme as that, but very much a matter of the. Well, I bought this and so it's mine and you can't use it. Yeah. And it's the the red onion that Jen eats for breakfast

[00:06:28] because she actually bought it out of spite. Out of out of just spite is absolutely right. It reminded me of there were a couple of like not callbacks, but just references to things that reminded me of other things or from other pop culture.

[00:06:45] There was a YouTube video of like a three year old boy who was like, look, mommy, it's an apple. No, it's not an apple. It's an onion. No, it is an apple. No, it's not. I'm going to eat the apple. You really shouldn't do any.

[00:07:02] He bites into the apple and he's just chewing it like, see, it's an apple. And that's what this reminded me of where, you know, Jen gets past the horribleness of chewing an onion and she just like starts to smile. Yeah.

[00:07:18] I mean, spite can really motivate a person to behave in in childish ways. Um, I loved the whole red sticker thing. All of us, like you said, have been in situations with a roommate or a sibling where things got petty as fuck, right?

[00:07:38] Where it was like, absolutely like masking tapes down the room down the middle of the room to divide the sides or, you know, writing your names on things. I had a roommate my first apartment after college. I lived in this, um, big place with five other people.

[00:07:56] And one of the roommates whose name I've changed to protect her privacy. Um, I guess had lived with food thieves before, but she wrote her name in Sharpie marker on everything, everything. And she wrote her full name with middle initial.

[00:08:16] So it was like Cindy Jay pots, Cindy Jay pots, Cindy Jay pots. Like when you open the cabinet, like her name was everywhere, she would write it along the peel of like every banana in the bunch of bananas.

[00:08:29] Um, it was, it was very intense and she would leave little notes on things too that were like, these are mine. My yummy bagels there for me, not for you. And it was like, wow, okay. Um, she definitely had some trauma in her life.

[00:08:45] Something had happened in a prior roommate situation, I think, um, horrifyingly when I moved into my next apartment and I was unpacking, I realized that I had accidentally packed two of her cookie sheets and left my own cookie sheets behind.

[00:09:00] And, uh, I was like, she's going to haunt us. Like, um, but yeah, the, the pettiness of the, of the roommate fight is it's, it's a time honored classic. Right? Absolutely. Everyone can identify with that. Yeah. I mean, the only time, you know what?

[00:09:22] No, everybody has a situation where they don't get along with the person they live with, whether it is a, you know, somewhere in their life, whether it was their parents, whether it was a brother or sister, a college, you know, a dorm roommate, uh, someone that

[00:09:37] you were just sharing an apartment with, you know, in military, someone that you have to live with. Um, you know, everybody has, has some sort of story like that and which makes it a very, uh, easy, easy idea and easy concept. But I really enjoyed the execution.

[00:09:56] Uh, putting a sticker on every slice of bread was beautiful. Yeah, that was really funny. You felt like Jen was going to go through the loaf trying to find one that Carrie missed. Yeah. Yeah. I can eat this one. Yeah. Um, yeah. Brilliant. The red dots.

[00:10:15] I loved it. Um, and also bickering through Gislord. Tell Carrie. Oh yeah. Tell Jen, Jennifer that, and he's just like trying so hard to be like, uh, nice to everyone. Well, I think, I think he was just trying to fulfill his role.

[00:10:33] Like the last thing that happened was that he like spat out whatever was said, you know, tell Carrie that blah, blah, blah or to tell Jen that whatever, and he just like spits it out as fast as possible. He's just like, okay. Yeah. I did it.

[00:10:49] I, yes, I am, I am fulfilling my role in this relationship right now. Yeah. Well, such a cutie pie. Uh, he didn't have a ton going on this episode. Uh, he was just sort of, you know, treading water and supporting the other characters.

[00:11:06] He was, he was a great support. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, um, yeah. So, but specifically, just Lord, he, he had the, uh, a couple of the funnier, um, one-off moments where, oh, if you're going to the lab, can you give this, give

[00:11:26] this to the lab and he's got the Tupperware full of blood? Oh my God, what is that? It's blood. Oh, it's a lot. So much of it. So much of it. It took me a long time. And then, oh, you do the thing where they find out

[00:11:41] who your parents are. Oh, you just spit, spit and send it to the post, send it through the post and these spitting an envelope later of those. Well, the like no one explained that to him. No one said, Hey, well, let's get a kit together

[00:11:54] and we'll go do this because everyone's too busy with themselves. When he spits in the envelope, first we just see him spitting directly into the envelope. And then like a few minutes later, there's just a single stamp in the center of the envelope.

[00:12:06] There's no address or anything on there. It's just like he's just going to mail his spit. Just going to mail his spit to someone. So sweet of him. He called it a dinner test. He's like, can you have them run a dinner test? Do you mean DNA?

[00:12:22] Do you mean DNA? Maybe. He was very much like, oh, maybe. Perhaps you're very childlike. Yeah. Oh God, I worry about him though, like losing that much blood and falling asleep repeatedly as he did. So. So Jen is going off to her consultation.

[00:12:44] She snaps at Giz Lord because she's upset and so she's lashing out the person who's actually trying to be nice to her, which again, we can all identify with. And so I'll tell you what, if you were going to charge, so getting to the

[00:13:01] getting to the office, if you're going to charge 9500 pounds for so what is it? Give me a damn clipboard. Don't make me try to, you know, bend over on a low table or right on someone else's back. That's a lot of writing to do. Investing.

[00:13:19] It reminded me of the scene in Men in Black where they're not giving them a clipboard as part of the Men in Black test. Right. I was like, oh, maybe Discovery Center is testing Jen to see if she, maybe it's part of like stressing her to like make

[00:13:36] her powers come out or something, or maybe it's just dumb. Yeah. Or maybe Denise is a bitch. Just saying. Denise, like she really did. Like she was very friendly when they first walked in, but I guess by the third phone call making sure that it's still free.

[00:13:53] Yeah, she was pretty fed up with, with Jen, but the, the sensory thing that Hannah had going on her back went, oh, you're 25. Did you just draw dick? No, you're good. And then she gives the dick to Denise. It slipped. It slipped.

[00:14:16] But yeah, so they, she obviously meets Hannah who also doesn't have any powers. And so they start talking about their plans for the world. We find out that Hannah has been coming there monthly. We don't know when she started. But she has definitely been there for,

[00:14:35] for a while. And so then, hey, do we want to go do that somewhere? Or do that somewhere more, somewhere more fun? Go to the bar? Oh, you know, just, you want a proper drink? I should try to get this done. Baby pints.

[00:14:55] Just, oh, just a half, just a half. Because they do serve half pints. And in London, which is nice. And then a half turns into a lot. And so, so now it's not just bonding, right? Like drinking and bonding, bonding and drinking.

[00:15:20] And so, you know, they see some other people kind of flaunting their powers like hair girl, oh, I can do that too. It's called a wig. Very, very much like you mentioned. Hannah is feeding into Jen's insecurities and into her bitterness towards people who have powers.

[00:15:44] They go to the bathroom, you know, see pink hair girl who is not pink hair girl cut off her ponytail. But I, is that a thing where two girls will go into the same stall? I don't know. I've seen it. I don't like it.

[00:16:01] Um, when it would we used to do that in bars, but it was always because there was like a long line. And also you often needed someone to hold the door for you because the door locks would always be broken. And it was crowded.

[00:16:16] So it was just like it made a certain kind of sense. But it's not my preferred way to go to the bathroom. I just thought it was a small stall for two women to be standing in. And then so then they take off,

[00:16:34] you know, they hear the drunk girl come out like what the fuck? And then they take off in the same way they took off with Tito and you know, the episode a couple couple of weeks ago. Oh, the from the funeral. Yeah, from the funeral where you

[00:16:50] it's in bad taste to steal a dog from a funeral. Yeah. So they take off. That's what it reminded me of. And so then they go home and Jen is looking for something that is not for food in the fridge. That is not tagged.

[00:17:10] And she finds a cheese single and is ambushed by Kerry or well, her dad via Kerry. A cheese single at midnight. You're not divorced. So it makes me think that that, you know, she and her that her mom and dad were divorced. Yeah, before he died, before he

[00:17:33] died. I love that line. That was a good one. It was a very good one. She's single at midnight. Come on. You're not recently divorced. Because that is like one of the saddest snack foods, like string cheese is even like better. Like that's a snack.

[00:17:52] But when you're going for the single wrapped slice, like all quality and dignity is out there. They taste like the plastic wrap. You might as well just eat it with the wrapper on. I cannot stand American cheese. I cannot stand like processed. It's a lot of American cheese.

[00:18:14] I know my son and my daughter both love it. We don't really grow out of that. We don't really like I will get like cheddar cheese. It's American cheese like they get American cheese and it like sticks to each other. It's only it's like half plastic.

[00:18:30] I personally think it's super gross, but maybe it's because I've grown up. Maybe it's just because I'm a cheese snob. I don't know. But well, if you're a cheese snob, so am I. And American cheese is disgust. It's so gross. Do you remember when right after 9 11 when

[00:18:50] I don't remember why, but France did something that Americans didn't like and everybody started calling French fries freedom. Freedom fries. I don't remember that. It was a whole thing like they changed the name of the French fries on the menus at like the Pentagon cafeteria and stuff

[00:19:08] instead of saying French fries, they said freedom fries. And then somebody put out a press release and they were like, you know, as revenge for calling Belgian fries, freedom fries. The French are going to continue to call American cheese American. I was like, yeah, we deserve it.

[00:19:32] American cheese is the worst. Yeah. One of my favorite lines was here. Oh, you can't just hold haul him out whenever like a grief jack in the box. I was like, that's that's fair. That's actually really valid. And in the dark sitting in the

[00:19:47] dark like that, that was brutal. And so when and then then this is what I was talking about earlier when Carrie rescinds the offer of talking to her father, to Jen talking to her father, like where I think I mentioned it last week, holding her dad hostage basically.

[00:20:09] And that's what happened. And then that I can appreciate Jen's her vitriol at that. Like, don't get me wrong, you throw your dinner at her. It's just the disgusting plop that it makes on the floor. And basically both of them walked out of that room losers.

[00:20:31] Like no one won that. There was no there was no like, oh, well, I rescind it. Man, that's it made me it made me like, Carrie, like I get why, but that's cold like that is cold. It's it's it's a low blow, right? Because it's like a real

[00:20:52] personal soft spot for Jen as her father, obviously. Yeah. But I did think that weaponizing a cheese slice was like the highest possible use for one of those fucking things. Right. Like, yeah, throw it at people. It's much better than trying to eat it.

[00:21:12] Yeah. How do you really feel, honey? And so then so Jen goes to bed and then she gets up and meets Hannah at the bar to pick up all of her paperwork and because Hannah is her new best friend. And which like both both people

[00:21:34] were being so childish by by people, I mean, Jen and Carrie were both being so childish that in that interaction. I appreciate that Carrie was reaching out to see how your consultation went. And then, you know, Jen being hurt all hurt still

[00:21:53] like she she threw it back in her face. It reminded me of the Andy Jen like, hey, are you OK? And are you OK from last week? Yeah. But so then Hannah and Jen decide to, you know what? We're going to fuck all the

[00:22:11] people who have powers and we're just going to have a club and I'm not even trying anymore. Like, Hannah's like, nope, not going back to the clinic and fuck it doesn't matter. Why are we doing homework on the weekend? I'm like, I don't know. This is necessarily homework.

[00:22:29] Again, I understand her point, though, like filling out forms does feel like homework, right? I get that. Having said that, you're also doing it in order to gain, you know, get your power that you've wanted for however long. Like you're doing something to better yourself.

[00:22:45] You haven't been assigned it. You signed up for us. And so then then they're up on the roof and, you know, end of the day and then they're just pegging flyers with the paintball guns and, of course, Luke shows up, which and she immediately, immediately just returns to

[00:23:13] Oh, what are you doing? Oh, can I come? I was like, Jen, oh my God. You are. Yeah. You are so. I don't know if codependence the right word because you're not even really in a codependent relationship. You're just being pitiful. Yeah. She's yeah.

[00:23:32] She's throwing herself at him constantly and he says the meanest things. And this time it was, oh, you're so funny. You're so funny, Jen. Like the idea of her going to some trendy bar with him was like hilarious. Yeah. And so then Hannah's like, what the fuck was

[00:23:52] that? And she's like, oh, that's actually better than it normally goes, which makes it even more sad. And so then they're like, oh, you know what, you know what we're going to do? We're going to go back to the clinic and we're going to fuck it up.

[00:24:06] So they they apparently stopped by the store on the way there and grab their masks and go through and think they go in and alarms going off. Oh, and that just stops. All right, cool. Start smashing shit and then it starts peeing on the desk. And then

[00:24:30] and then the security or then Hannah's starts like, oh, my God, I just disappeared. Like, oh, what? And then she just reappears and then disappears and reappears and trying to try to get control of her power. And oh, my God, this is so fucking cool.

[00:24:46] You're like, oh, great. I guess there goes our club. Oh, no, Jen, I'm not going anywhere. Hey, what are you two doing? Well, and bye bye, Hannah. I thought that was well, well done. Yeah, a little bit telegraphed, but yes, I thought it was well done.

[00:25:07] Although that had to be like the worst security guard in the world because he wasn't that far behind her and she was in heels and I don't understand how and probably drunk. I'm not sure how he didn't catch her, but yeah, maybe he just was content

[00:25:24] to face our way, but maybe he didn't realize that he had peed on the desk. Yeah, the pee on the desk was pretty good. I mean, pretty gross, but also pretty good. Yeah. It's not something I ever would have done. Yeah, like I don't think I've ever

[00:25:47] actually had the like the urge to like pee on something that someone else held valuable because it was you know, out of spite. But I'm sure that I've felt spiteful towards people in other ways. I wanted to mention the actor who plays Hannah. Her name is Patricia

[00:26:10] Allison, and she is one of the main characters on the Netflix show Sex Education and that is a show with a sense of humor that if you like this show, I think you would like that show. It's not exactly the same, but it has a similar sort of

[00:26:29] irreverence and unexpectedness to it. I think we talked about that really good. Yeah, I think. Yeah, because this show reminded me of it in the first episode, just something about the sense of humor and then to have this character, this actor show up.

[00:26:46] I was like, I know her like she's from Sex Ed and she's hilarious. So I was like ready to be entertained by her. When when some of the when some of the content backs off a little bit, maybe I'll go back and check that out. Yeah, it's hard.

[00:27:01] You never there's never enough time to watch all the good stuff that's on TV. Yeah, absolutely. So then we flash to so Jen is at home and just Lord is is comforting her as a cat one does. As one does as a cat. And this this interchange

[00:27:22] was probably my favorite in the entire show. So, you know, so here I brought you some tea. Apparently it makes everything better according to TV, which in most British shows. Yeah, that's basically I'll have a couple. And well, so what's going on? Well, she hates me. And so

[00:27:51] I'm just not going to talk her. I'm going to shun her and never talk to her again. OK, no, not like that. I mean, well, are you going to be friends again? Well, yeah, probably. Wait, so maybe so you want to be her friends with

[00:28:07] her and she wants to be friends with you. I hope so. Maybe I don't understand what simple is. That's and then then she, you know, oh, I did forget the painkillers in the deal. It seems too simple. So it tastes funny. I put painkiller, a bunch of

[00:28:24] painkillers in it. I'm going to leave that there. I'm going to leave that there. And then. And then he just leans his head on her shoulder like like a cat and she's like, oh, that's what Pixel does for me when I'm having a bad day. He sluggles me.

[00:28:46] And then as soon as I let down my guard, he claws me. There it is. And then so then we get to, you know, so she shows she comes out and Kerry's doing the erotic jigsaw jigsaw that Jen offered in peace. And.

[00:29:09] You know, for the Jen made the first move, you know, offered the the the EJ and then Kerry went to made the comment to include her in asking about the man or woman nipple. That's got a hair on it. It's man's and they can never tell. Not always.

[00:29:29] Oh, trust me. And then and so everything is all as well in the world again. And so then they're going to. Then they get back to the clinic and she's filling out all her paperwork and all that. And she's like, oh, oh, I was supposed to know what

[00:29:49] blood type I am. Like, oh, that sounds like a Jen line. Yeah, seriously. And of course, Kerry knew. Yeah, of course, Kerry know and a be positive and your own negative not even close. But I appreciate the effort. Well, it's going to be a two way

[00:30:06] street from here on out. Any problems that you have? And then we'll get into Kerry's storyline here in the minute. But. And then the the does it smell like piss in here? Tag was pretty pretty good. Yeah. Can you imagine like coming into your office in the morning

[00:30:29] and somebody has like peed on your desk? I don't know how you like. Work that day. I mean, like somebody had to come in and clean up all of the smashed all the smashed plants and all that. So yeah, like I imagine that some work was

[00:30:50] done, but I that is that is an awful thing. It would feel incredible threatening and personal. Right. Interesting. All right. So any any notes for for Jens? Jens story? Jens story. So when Jen and Hannah were together at one point in the bathroom,

[00:31:21] they were talking about how it felt like there was a giant club and they were left out of it. And it made me remember what it felt like when I was a teenager and had not yet started having sex. And it seemed to me like everyone else was

[00:31:35] having sex. And I was just like this loser who was, you know, never going to figure out what it was all about. And I felt like I was left out of a giant club. Yeah, it was the same feeling. I was like, oh, I know that

[00:31:47] feeling and how it feels when you meet another person that you can share that with is is pretty is pretty special until you lose them. I I also thought it was really funny, the classic drunk girl in the in the bathroom thing. You're so pretty.

[00:32:06] Oh, that's so sweet. You're so pretty. And then the line about I think you're the Princess Diana of our generation. And I've been waiting for someone to say that it was like you I think you are the Princess Diana of our generation. I've been waiting for someone to

[00:32:23] tell me that all my life. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's it's patently ridiculous. But I also was trying to think of like what would be the sort of American American version of that. Yeah. And I mean, at a certain point many decades ago, it would have

[00:32:39] been like Jackie Kennedy, right? Or I guess in a way, Michelle Obama is like that. I can see a Michelle hero to a lot of women. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I mean, I guess she was she she was around for a very, very long time and she had a

[00:32:57] very distinct personality. So I mean, I don't know that she hurt her popularity wasn't as widespread as like Princess Diana. Yeah, Princess Diana is a really unique figure in our society or history. She's like the one person that even people like me who think the Royals are stupid

[00:33:19] like I still love Princess Diana. Yeah, I mean, but she very I mean, not I mean, very tragic figure. I mean, just yeah, very tragic in what she what she went through. Not that this is a princess Diana podcast podcast, but yes, you went through.

[00:33:35] I mean, she went through some really crappy stuff and but she was well loved by all. So I'm sorry, Jen, you are not Carrie. Carrie is the Princess Diana. Yeah, Carrie very well may be the Princess Diana of their generation, but Jen is not the type

[00:33:51] who would campaign against landmines and befriend AIDS patients when no one else would. That's just not Jen. But I was wondering like, what do drunk dudes talk about in the bathroom? If anything? Well, first off, drunk dudes don't tell each other they're pretty, right?

[00:34:08] We don't talk to each other in the bathroom or if we do, it's like. Hey, what's up? That's basically the like the extent like unless you have two people who know each other and like they happen to be going to the bathroom at the same time

[00:34:28] and they happen to be, you know, standing at different urinals. It's no, you don't typically go to the bathroom together unless you honest to God have to go to the bathroom and just what happens to be the same. We don't we don't wait

[00:34:43] for each. Oh, I've got to go back. Oh, I'll go to. OK, thank God we can go dish together in the bathroom that now that doesn't happen or at least doesn't happen to me. It doesn't happen in my circles or it hasn't happened.

[00:34:55] It was a very real moment that I have have experienced many times in my 20s of like being in some bar bathroom and usually it's not even someone you know, you just end up striking a conversation with another woman in the bathroom and you're like, oh my God,

[00:35:11] I really love your lipstick and he's like, really? Because your hair is so pretty and like it's just drunk girls who are just, you know, I mean, that's one sidebar here. But like perhaps girls can go into a bathroom and compliment each other on whatever

[00:35:30] and then strike a strike about conversation. If you don't know another as a man, if you don't know another man. You might be able to strike a conversation about football game that is on or whatever. But it's got to be something happening at the moment.

[00:35:50] It's got to be it's typically something like I would never go to be like, oh, dude, where'd you get those Italian looking shoes? Nope. It's not something that I would do. You guys are missing out, man. I can't stranger tells you you're pretty like I couldn't

[00:36:07] I couldn't go up to a dude and be like, hey, you guys look like you're having fun. I want to hang out with you guys. No, they'd be like fuck off creep and, you know, that's just. Like or all right, a dude said that to me one time

[00:36:22] in a bar, he came up to our he had hit on me already like two or three times that night. And then he finally he just came up to the table where I was with all my friends and he was like, you guys are having the most fun

[00:36:32] of anybody in the bar. I want to hang out with you guys. We were like, all right. He was like 25 and I was 45. I was like, dude, OK, you you got to stop. And my friends who were with me were very, very entertained by the whole situation.

[00:36:52] They still bring it up whenever we talk about that restaurant. They're like, oh, maybe the guy is still there. But yes, I ring to answer your question. No, I have not really experienced much of like, you know, secret sharing in the bathroom. I say that for therapy. Yeah.

[00:37:15] That's men are missing it, missing out. Yes, you want to you want to do you have any other notes? I'm just wondering if I have any other notes about Hannah. Oh, she calls Luca flyboy, which I thought was really funny. Although the fact that the fact that she

[00:37:31] oh, I forgot to mention that that Hannah is then teleporting onto Luke's lap on that. So harsh or you know, talk or YouTube or whatever. I was like, man, that is that is hard. That was like the ultimate sort of fuck you.

[00:37:47] I mean, I don't know if she knew what Luke meant to Jen, but she knew it was something. Yeah. Yeah. Now, that made me dislike Hannah immediately. Like, hey, I get where you're coming from. Oh, wait, no. Fuck off. Yeah. Um, let's talk about fucking cash.

[00:38:09] OK, whole thing. All right. I will let you lead the cash parade and I will and I'll add in seasoning as necessary. Yeah. So cash continues to be a giant tool. You know, he is cute. And, you know, I really felt for Kerry when she was like,

[00:38:33] I really miss my boyfriend. He's fun and he's sexy. And when she describes him, she's like, he has lustrous shining hair and I don't remember the second thing. And then she goes and rippling emotional maturity. Oh, no, he doesn't. He really doesn't.

[00:38:49] But and then she was so excited later when she thought he had like atoned for his embarrassment. And she was like, we can move on to adult things like going on a mini break for the weekend. And it's like her requests from him are so reasonable

[00:39:06] and so like, you know, just. I don't know how else to say reasonable, just like she's not asking for too much from him and he just fails constantly and always takes her for granted. You know, she sends him out on his on his forgiveness tour.

[00:39:28] And it takes like five minutes with Seb, not even before he is off on a tangent and they're making T-shirts for a lads farewell tour, which I assumed was sort of like a roving bachelor party concept. Right. Right, like the last single night or something like that.

[00:39:49] I did think the T-shirts looked pretty cool and I was like, they should sell those. I would buy one. But also I didn't realize Seb's name was Seb. I had to look it up several times. I keep calling him Marlin.

[00:40:01] I think because Marlin is a kind of fish. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that Seb didn't know that dolphins are mammals and not fish. Well, so he said he could summon sea creatures. So I like mammals even in dolphins would fall into that

[00:40:23] regardless of whether he's fish. But maybe he should have said fish. Yeah, maybe. So that makes me wonder like can he summon mollusks? Like what about sea sponges or coral reefs? Yeah, it's hard to... There's a lot of stuff in the ocean that's not fish. Right.

[00:40:41] I was glad to see Adé again just because he's so cute and kind and the fact that he's a massage therapist. Like of course he is. Like he has the perfect personality for that and he has giant hands.

[00:40:54] I was like, I would totally go to him for massage. Like he seems like he'd be so good. And then he's like, oh, you know, that's what a leader does. He takes responsibility and I think you would be good if we just gave it a second chance

[00:41:09] and we'd be fabulous or whatever. And you know, the joy on Cash's face as he realizes that the band wants to get back together and that he can give in to this ridiculous idea of being a vigilante. And he says, I'd come back older and wiser.

[00:41:31] Rising from the ashes like a phoenix. I'm not depressed. I'm in the middle of a redemption arc. First of all, older and wiser. It's been like two days. I put down your three days older and wiser. Yeah, you ass. It wasn't ashes that you fell into.

[00:41:50] It was a pit of humiliation and I don't think phoenixes rise out of pits of humiliation but the line, I'm not depressed. I'm in the middle of a redemption arc. It's so fucking funny. I want to write it on a t-shirt.

[00:42:03] I want to put it up on my wall. It killed me. I was like, God, that's so good. And then he says, we're not, this isn't a lad's farewell tour. This is an assembling. We're in the middle of an assembling.

[00:42:15] And I couldn't help but get a little excited about that because the assembling montages in movies are one of my most favorite things. Like, I love, like in Blues Brothers when they're getting the band back together and like when, you know, in heist movies

[00:42:32] when they're like, we're going to need a team of 10 people. I know a guy for safe cracking. And then they're like off to get the team together. I love it. A good assembling. So I was like, it's an assembling.

[00:42:42] But then I was like, oh, they have such shitty choices to assemble from. So of course they end up at Gregor's house and Gregor is a, you know, the only person on earth I dislike more than cash. I'm just, let me just, I just want to interject.

[00:42:56] So they said, so out I said, we just had a bit of bad luck. No, you had bad luck and a bad plan to jump out from under a bridge at women to ask if they want help. And you had bad execution in not backing up

[00:43:16] Adé when he was going, like nothing that you guys did was positive. There was. I would not call that bad luck. They caused all their own problems. Yeah, like that you insulted a man's girlfriend and he punched you. That's not bad luck. That's stupid being a dick.

[00:43:37] Yeah, that's, that's idiocy. Like when cash, you know, sheds his depressive manner and maybe it's been as much as a week. I don't know. But when, when cash, you know, sheds his depressive manner and he's just like, oh my God, like this should be

[00:43:58] a like awe inspiring, like, oh man, he's finally coming out of it. Yes. And it just fell flat and maybe it's because maybe it's intentional. Maybe maybe he's a narcissist. But like the hope and confidence that he had, it's not inspiring. It's super sad.

[00:44:18] And it makes me just made me go, oh God, you don't get it yet. You just don't get it. This is an assembling. Yeah, an assembling of still creeps. Yeah, you guys are still a group of losers. Gregor sucks, but he was right.

[00:44:35] Like you're not a group of bandit brothers. You're a band of losers. Cash, if you really want to do somebody a favor, get together with Adé and help people get into their houses by having him stick his arm through the door. Like that's, that's the key.

[00:44:52] And what Adé said with regard to, oh, you're taking responsibility. That's what a leader does. No, what a leader does is figures out a way to overcome the, the, the, either the differences or the difficulties or whatever the case is, not, oh, I'm a fuck up.

[00:45:20] Jen did that last episode and she wasn't a leader. She was just a fuck up. Like that was just a way to make someone feel sorry for you. And Adé, I'm sorry, but you're falling for it. And yes, he's a fucking loser.

[00:45:33] And if you want to go, you know, if you want to go, you know, join some other vigilante group that people aren't douches, great, but don't waste your, your cell phone cash because, yeah. I mean, and the amount that he takes carry for granted is so monumental.

[00:45:55] I don't normally root for couples to break up, but I just really want her to dump his ass. He, she deserves so much better. And he's, he's dragging her down even more than Jen. I think because Jen does actually support Carrie.

[00:46:18] Sometimes she does come through and they do have fun together, whereas cash just like uses her for rent and lies to her all the time. And like, he doesn't even have sex with her when she wants to have sex. Like what the fuck man?

[00:46:29] You're a 25 year old guy. You're supposed to be like, that's the one thing that 25 year old guys are good for is that they always want to have sex. Sorry, that was rude. I'm sorry. As a former 25 year old guy, I concur. Yeah.

[00:46:44] That is the one thing you can rely on us for is we want to have sex. I did think his move of putting the air fryer in the bed was pretty clever, you know, so he didn't have to get up and go to the kitchen to make cash

[00:46:56] rounds. So, so that absolutely made me think of the Michael Scott. I put the George Foreman grill at the floor so that I can just cook the bacon and wake up to the smell of crick, you know, crackling bacon. I didn't remember that from the office. That's funny.

[00:47:12] Yeah. That was, I was like, oh, it's like Michael Scott. It's like the George Foreman grill that he stepped on. I mean, I can appreciate the thought process. But the fact that Kerry was like, what is that? What did you bring the air fryer to bed?

[00:47:33] So what do I have to go to the kitchen to make cash rounds? I appreciate your ingenuity, but just get up and go to the kitchen, man. Come on. I mean, it's a fire hazard. There's so many reasons that that's a bad idea, but I can understand

[00:47:52] the impulse to be like, what do I need so I can just stay under the covers all day? I've had some experience with pretty bad depression and there are definitely have been times where just like crossing the room seemed like just too much effort.

[00:48:12] So I can kind of understand retreating to bed with a source of food, probably not an air fryer. So I'm just going to, so I am almost positive that I have been through a bout of depression and, you know, it is rough.

[00:48:32] And if you are going through that, let me go ahead and just make my PSA. Go ahead and seek help. Talk to someone get professional help. There are people who are there to help you and, you know, suicide is a huge deal in the country.

[00:48:49] And if you need help, there is a suicide hotline. I don't have it for you off the top of my head, but. We can link it in the show notes. I think it's nine. It's either nine, nine, eight or nine, eight, eight. Yeah, we'll get the show.

[00:49:03] But if you if you're suffering by doing me wrong, like please get help. Period. Yeah. Stop listening to the podcast and go unless it's helping. Yeah. Unless it's helping then, you know, keep going. Hopefully we'll continue to help cheer you up as soon as the podcast is

[00:49:22] over, though. You know, call call the hotline. But yeah, so it's a very real thing. But I personally have gone through that have gone through about the depression and I I'm the opposite. I am the just give me something else to do.

[00:49:41] I am not the I can lay in bed all day. And maybe I wasn't actually going through the depression. I think that I absolutely was. But, you know, maybe I just adapted it to my to my own personal routine.

[00:49:53] And it was, hey, you know, distract myself with anything else that I can be doing, get up and play video games or watch movies or cook or eat or whatever. It looks different on different people. No two people are going to be depressed the exact same way.

[00:50:09] And so you should never feel bad about how it manifests for you. Yeah. So just for me in general, like that's why I am like I personally am like, oh, just get up and go go to the kitchen, man.

[00:50:19] Like maybe you'll feel better because you actually got up and fucking did something. Don't get me wrong. You're worthless regardless. But yeah, you know, have sex with your girlfriend like I give her one, you know, let her feel a win because she is not not not there.

[00:50:39] Anyway, I mean, cash is cash is hard to defend because he is a selfish weenie and he makes all of his own problems. But if I do have sympathy for anybody who's going through that kind of depression

[00:50:53] though, because you can't really control yourself and being told to just cheer up or just do something is it's kind of mean. Yeah, definitely a difficult thing. But I don't know if cash what cash is mental health situation really is

[00:51:09] or if he's just a lazy self entitled douche. You were humiliated. That's what happened is you're not in a depression. You were humiliated by your own personal actions and that's what happened anyway. Moving on. So moving on.

[00:51:24] So yeah, cash and the boys get back together now with the scene where they go to Gregor's house. First of all, I love when he was like, wait, why do you have your suit on? And then the whole the whole thing that happened after that where they go

[00:51:39] in and they meet the other people that are in cash is like new vigilante group which was Magnet girl PDF guy, which like I would not want that guy in my home. And I don't know who the third person laser eyes laser eyes laser eyes.

[00:51:57] Right now I remember. Yep, laser eyes. And then when it took like cash a few minutes to remember that he had a power like he was like letting Gregor make a fool out of him.

[00:52:10] And then the joy on his face when you realize that that he could get the drop on him by just reversing time. I'm like cash, did you forget that you have this incredibly powerful power? Like you should never be in a situation where somebody like embarrasses you

[00:52:26] because you can always rewind it and then but he's like dumb right. He's anyway. I did enjoy though when he rewound time and he punched Gregor in the face and then he says he will have deserved it. He will have deserved it.

[00:52:40] Yeah, that was actually a really good line. I was like, yeah, okay, that's funny. He has good lines. He's a funny character. I just wouldn't want him to be in my life for real. And Gregor is the only person I think who's more annoying than cash.

[00:52:58] So anytime Gregor gets punched in the face, that's also a good thing. That was totally worth it. Yeah, I am pro that but then when yeah when cash goes home and tells Carrie his you know good news and she's so like obviously distressed by it.

[00:53:15] It really made me sad. Yeah, it was it was definitely a a you know if you like cash and you identify with cash it is a positive and then maybe it's giving you the understanding that someone else may be ill effected by your

[00:53:33] narcissism or your commitment to someone else. Yeah, it was that was definitely a hard hard scene to watch and it's the whole concept that you know, oh, none of this would have happened if it weren't for you babe and the understanding in Carrie's eyes was just heartbreaking.

[00:53:52] Yeah, I mean she has been enabling him for a long time. Very true. In part it is because of her but yeah, I mean she has a lot of qualities that make her would just say better than cash. Yeah, I can't agree with that more.

[00:54:14] I think she is going through some important growth and you know last week we saw her you know stand up for herself or maybe the first time against Jen, you know her her closest friend and it must have hurt her a

[00:54:28] lot to do that but it's like it's opened up this side of her where she she sees people in a new way and she's looking at cash and she's like I don't think I can keep doing this. And good for you. You shouldn't have to. Yeah, he sucks.

[00:54:45] You're right and you need to get out of it even if cash has all the potential in the world to someday be the best person for you. You can't be with him now. He sucks and maybe you should find him when he is that person.

[00:54:58] Yeah, you've given him enough leeway to become somebody better than who he is and he hasn't done it yet. I just I know it's hard though because she does care about him. It's just he sucks. Yeah. That's I think all I had about cash.

[00:55:18] Okay, well if I if I can think if I think of something else that I you know, semi nice that I want to say about cash. I'll think of it in the future but I don't have anything else nice to say about him right now.

[00:55:31] So let's move on to saving the best for last. So the Kerry Gislord storyline. All right. So these two together. Had as much chemistry as Jen and Kerry do. Yeah, Gislord and like real real son and so the Oxonom are doing

[00:55:55] an amazing job especially you know discussing things like they've got separate lines and they're both literally talking about completely different topics but they mesh and and maybe it's such kind people right like Kerry is the only person who actually answers his questions. Like absolutely so respectful.

[00:56:18] The the I really liked the why game with Gislord and Kerry. Yeah, the the well it's like this. Why because she's a selfish person. Why? Because you know blah blah blah blah blah why? I really I thought that it was it was in that with a button of

[00:56:41] why make I'm not I'm not a therapist why because I didn't need the A levels. It was almost like an exposition of what was going on and what was going through people's heads but it was explaining it to a child and I thought that was a really,

[00:56:59] really clever way of giving some input into into the story and kind of some background and what kind of talent saying what Kerry's thinking without saying what Kerry's thinking like oh this is how I'm feeling. Why?

[00:57:16] Because of this and she was so patient with it it was it was great. Yeah, and when he tried to cheer her up by making her a new erotic jigsaw puzzle inexplicably just the drawing of a dog with a hat.

[00:57:31] I don't know what erotic is and I'm not sure I know what a jigsaw puzzle is. And she's just like aww I'm like smiles and like cats and like the two of them seem like they should spend more time together like they're just both like we be pies.

[00:57:52] Yeah, I mean this is the first time that Jen's really left just Lord by himself. Right. Like she she saw that Tupperware full of blood and didn't think to say like don't do anything else until I can help you with this.

[00:58:07] Yeah, the Tupperware full of blood the spitting into the envelope like he's just spitting into an envelope and she's just having a conversation. Yeah, but just Luke Rawlison continues to just charm charm me. I find him very charming. A lot of people wearing really ugly clothes this week.

[00:58:27] It must have been laundry day. It must have been laundry day. Jen's worn that top before that just looks like it's like a quilting bee clown tent. I don't know what the hell she's wearing. It's so ugly and just Lord is always in really random stuff.

[00:58:48] I think he's just like wearing like whatever he can find in Jen's like sort of discarded clothes pile. He was wearing like purple leggings today. I was like, okay. But Jen and Hannah both had like really wackadoo outfits on. Yeah, the so they do find those erotic jigsaw

[00:59:08] puzzles under under was it under Jen's bed? Yeah, under Jen's bed. Yeah, under Jen's bed. And so we used to do these together and we stay up all night and we I had such a very precise method for doing jigsaws and Jen is just chaos.

[00:59:27] It was so much fun. And it was like the joy in her voice interface. Like you could see a friend doing that or saying that. Yeah, and it's what we talked about last week too. But even though Jen is can be selfish and a drama queen.

[00:59:46] She brings something to Kerry's life that Kerry can't give herself, right? Kerry is very buttoned up and Jen loosens her up and takes her on adventures and you know, brings out her silly side and it's a valuable balance to Kerry as a person.

[01:00:04] They just need to rejigger the balances between them in all the other ways. Absolutely. You know, Jen is still fun. She says to Luke, I'm so crazy. What will I do next? And I was like, yeah, that's her whole person. And then and then we have the.

[01:00:26] Like that's pretty much the only scene we really have with Kerry and Gis Lord. And then, you know, obviously Kerry drops into, you know, to drop the grief jack in the box on Jen. And then the you talk about depression,

[01:00:43] like that's Kerry just wrapped up in the blanket. Nothing that you can see. You can't see anything with her face. And, you know, she hears the knock of the door and she goes and she sees the jigsaw. I did really enjoy the the line, the interaction like,

[01:00:58] oh, we're going to do a jigsaw. Just Lord and I, my best new best friend is going to do the a new rock jigsaw and EJ. And yeah, whole hog, which of course, the hog is another word for Dick. So it was like, oh yeah.

[01:01:20] Yeah, you want to see my hog? Yeah, also motorcycle, but yeah. But yeah, if a whole hog was an interesting choice of words. And then so, hey, we're going to do this together. No, you can't. That's mine. No, I'm pretty sure about.

[01:01:40] No, I did because the bank called me to ask if I wanted to spend 200 pounds on erotic jigsaws. And I said yes. And then they reduced my overdraft. My overdraft limit was pretty funny. I was like, oh, that's smart bank. Yeah, well played, sirs. Well played.

[01:02:00] And then and then Kerry, you know, we already talked about Kerry and Cash and then Kerry at the end with with Jen at the shop. Or I say at the shop, at the clinic. Oh God.

[01:02:17] So when yeah, when Jen says to Kerry like, you know, tell me your problem, burden me with your problems. And then Kerry's like, oh, I'm fine. Really? I can't think of anything. Well, there is this one thing. And then her body language changes.

[01:02:29] She looks straight ahead and her voice drops. And she's like cash is back with his vigilante group and I hate it. And I think it's going to ruin our relationship. And then she sort of realizes what she said and she turns back into the other Kerry.

[01:02:42] Like she flips a switch and she's like, but really, I'm fine. It's no problem. And I'm like, okay, that was a moment Kerry. You're starting to grow. But other than that, I'm fine. And Jen's like, uh, I don't know how to respond to that.

[01:02:58] Um, it's a tricky thing when a friend of yours has a significant other who's who sucks because if you are honest with them about the way that that person sucks and they decide to stay with that person, you can lose them as a friend.

[01:03:16] And they'll resent you even if they know you're right about the person. They'll resent you for saying it to them. Um, it's very rare that it doesn't end in disaster to tell someone how you feel about their boyfriend partner or whatever. Yeah, I had a lesson learned there.

[01:03:36] Um, you know, I came into an area of work and some guys were just there and hanging out and like, oh, why is everybody all, oh, you know, this girl broke up with me and my response was, oh, good. She's a C next Tuesday.

[01:03:57] You're better off without her. And then everybody else just stared at me like kind of in shock that I said it. And, uh, and then I go, oh, you're not trying to get back together with you. Are you with her? Are you?

[01:04:12] And she's like, he's like, yeah, I was like, uh, all right. Well, good luck, man. Like turned around and walked away. It was like, uh, my bad. I mean, we're still friends and it didn't end too early. He's not, you know, not married to her and she's married.

[01:04:30] He's married to a wonderful girl and that's fantastic. But, uh, yeah, I basically stay out of the people's business when it comes to their crappy significant others. Yeah. I mean, just my personal opinion. Um, I one time told a friend of mine that I didn't think he

[01:04:48] should marry the guy she was going to marry. Um, and she went ahead and married him anyway. And, uh, I feel like all of my predictions came true. It's like, it's so hard not to be like, remember when I told you,

[01:05:02] like I just, yeah, no one wants to hear I told you so as a person who hears I told you so on a regular basis. Yeah. You don't want to hear it. You don't want to hear it. Like believe me, I blame myself.

[01:05:14] I know it was my choice, but, uh, you know, you know what you're here for? You're here for support. Support me by God. Well, I don't want to listen to you bitching about the things I told you we're going to go wrong. So, you know, it's okay.

[01:05:28] You know what? I'll bitch to somebody else that's not, this is not obviously directed at you, but just in general. Yeah. I've been in that situation where like I gave somebody advice. They didn't follow my advice and then they came back to complain to

[01:05:41] me about what happened and I'm like, I don't know why you're talking to me about it. You don't do what I tell you to do. Right. Like, and then the thing happened and like now you want me to help you

[01:05:52] clean it up, which actually basically was my entire job as a lawyer and I got real tired of doing that too. Like, oh, you made a big disaster when you did the thing I told you not to do. Great. Just leave it here on my desk. Yeah.

[01:06:09] I got real tired of it after a while. I think that's a reasonable, that's a reasonable statement. Yeah. If you're not going to listen to me, I don't want to give you any more advice. Unfortunately, I got paid to give advice, so I had to keep doing it.

[01:06:24] But I don't know what Jen should do with Carrie talking to her about cash. I guess just be there for her and ask a lot of questions about how Carrie is feeling and what she thinks she wants to do and don't actually give any advice.

[01:06:43] That would be my advice for a friend in that situation. Yeah, I mean, cash is such a free letter that Jen's got to see it and I mean, he also knows she says it because she said it

[01:06:53] to, um, oh, yeah, Lord and he repeated it called him a feckless loser. But I don't think she can say that to Carrie. I think she needs to say things to Carrie like, well, what do you

[01:07:04] think you should do about it and how, you know, how will that turn out? And you just sort of like, let the person talk. He values you and yeah, yeah, maybe that's maybe that's too direct. But I am not sounds like you think he takes you for granted.

[01:07:23] Like, yeah, which he does. Oh my God, Gary, he does. Yeah, I would be. I would not be a great friend of Carrie. I would very much be saying how much cash sucks. He's just trying to sleep with you.

[01:07:39] That's, I mean, I guess I wouldn't mind because she's awesome. But yeah. Yeah. Also, you're a douche. Anyway. All right. So any other notes? We saw a couple new powers this week. They weren't that exciting. There was the hair changing girl and there was another guy who

[01:08:03] was like clinging to a wall like Spider-Man while he was painting graffiti. Oh yeah. I thought that was kind of cool, but and then there was at the very beginning there was somebody spinning in the air like he I

[01:08:15] couldn't tell if he was having fun or couldn't figure out how to just stuck. Yeah. Yeah. There was also a girl sitting on a lamppost. Oh, I missed that. Yeah. The new powers that I got were lamppost girl, flyers and hair girl.

[01:08:37] That's those are the only ones that I got. And Denise apparently has some kind of telekinesis because she was using it to file her nails. Oh, I didn't see that. I didn't notice that. I was like, you have to pay attention when you're filing your nails.

[01:08:53] The idea of it being like you could just like put it on an autopilot is you're going to hurt yourself actually. But anyway, I should stop trying to inject real world physics into this incredibly silly show. Perhaps she's done it so often that, you know, she's like

[01:09:11] I can tie my shoes and not even think about it. Like if she does that on a regular basis and it's been, you know, a number of years, 10, then okay, sure. I am missing some of the world building like some of the history.

[01:09:26] I wish we got some of the kind of when we talk about like the nine days after the apocalypse happens. Yeah. I do. I do wish like we could get some of some more stories about that. Yeah. For a flashback for like because it seems like it's

[01:09:42] only been a reality in this world for 10 years. So when it started happening, it must have been chaos. Chaos. Absolutely chaos. Absolutely. I would really like flashbacks. Maybe Ange will give us a flashback and we'll get to see what she looked like before she became eternally 12 years old.

[01:10:02] Yeah. That'd be pretty hot. I mean not hot, but you know, I mean that'd be pretty good. All right. All right. Do we have anything else? All right. In that case, time for a break. Stay with us. More to come.

[01:10:30] And we're back and moving on to extraordinary news. Penny. First off, I checked out how we're doing on rotten tomatoes and extraordinary has a 100% on the tomato meter and 91% with audiences. So we are not the only people who are loving this show.

[01:11:04] I'm very happy about that because I know they just they've already started filming season two and I want there to be like 15 seasons of the show. I love it so much. There wasn't a lot of news, but I did find a nice

[01:11:18] lengthy interview with Luke Rawlison on a comedy.co.uk and pulled out some excerpts. It's a longer interview so we can link it in the show notes so people can read the whole thing. There was some really great photography that accompanied this interview as well just like last

[01:11:35] week, so I read it. I can only imagine. As well as Luke Rawlison's Instagram. Yeah. I went and looked at the 1883 article and I see what you mean about the show. I mean, I'm not sure if you're going to say that, but I see what you mean about

[01:11:52] about Soviet Hoxenheim's photography. It was very classy and beautiful. Yeah. Just none of the carry dorkiness at all. It was really like, oh wow. How does she do that? It's amazing. All right. So I'm going to ask the questions and Greg is

[01:12:10] going to pretend to be Luke Rawlison. Excellent. Your character is without giving too much away and quite unique requiring a particular level of physicality. Yeah, because I have a background in clown. There was this rumor spread around said that I was a trained circus performer.

[01:12:28] This could not be further from the truth. I did go to clown school but it involves absolutely zero physical skill training. But every time I had to go through anything remotely physically challenging the set coordinator always preface instructions like now I know you're used to backflipping

[01:12:42] off your pieces but no matter what I said I could not dispel the idea that I'm capable of back flips. I'm also terrified of heights. But weirdly even though I don't consider myself to have an acting background, the stupid stuff I've been doing for the last

[01:12:57] five years ended up being unnervingly relevant. This is probably the only role absolutely ideal for someone who performed a one-man nature documentary for three years and then toured a physical theater show dressed as a dancing sperm. So if you want to get cast in a Disney

[01:13:11] Plus show that's all you have to do. Gis Lord also goes on a bit of an emotional journey? It's a strange role to play because when we meet Gis Lord he doesn't know anything about his past or who he is. He's a blank slate.

[01:13:25] On one hand that throws all the preparation we often associate with acting straight out of the window. I found that a bit of a relief. I knew as much about the character as he knew about himself. So much of clowning is about responding

[01:13:37] live to a situation in the thrill of taking whatever's thrown at you when you're performing. From a performing background then it was a dream role to play where the emotional journey can never come from the preparation you've done as an actor but solely from

[01:13:51] the situations you find yourself in. It's my first major role on a show so in many ways I was just as clueless as the character is and that was helpful. This is your first major TV acting role. How did you find the filming process?

[01:14:06] I've never enjoyed being paid to do something more. Often in comedy the best the stuff that pays is the stuff you endure in order to perform your beloved show for free. I feel so spoiled. The best thing about making the show was the cast especially other leads.

[01:14:22] Morey Tires, Bilal Hasna and Sylvia Oxnum. For all of us it was our first big job so you're going to go on this huge adventure together. Being on set for a show like extraordinary is absolutely absurd. One moment you're taking a dog to

[01:14:36] strip club the next you're dodging the line because the character has the power to summon sea creatures but not the power to control them. I refuse to give any context. You've been starring in online sketches and performing live shows for a while.

[01:14:49] Was the plan always to become a TV actor too or has that happened accidentally? How did you get cast in extraordinary? I was drawn to performing comedy because it felt the easiest medium to find an audience for stupid things I wanted to make.

[01:15:05] I would have been just as happy as being a filmmaker or director or artist except I'd be bad at all those things. But only in live comedy can you think what if I had a lamp on my head in the dark and went nang-nang-nang

[01:15:18] and then that evening 30 people in a basement have to watch you do that. I'm obsessed by the immediacy of that. I've always wanted to be a performer but when I first moved to London trying to be an actor I felt a lot less creatively fulfilling than I was.

[01:15:36] I think that was a lot more successful in terms of professional development too. It brought my work to the kind of venues that attracted industry attention and that's how I got an agent. I feel very lucky they have not been fired by the agents before I was

[01:15:51] cast in this show. I think the nang-nang-nang thing was beginning to look pretty commercially unviolable. There's things I've always loved about making things for screen especially when it comes to creating a show that is very much a reality. I think that's a good thing to do.

[01:16:09] I think that's a good thing to do whatever the medium is it just comes down to getting an idea out of your head and out into the world. In terms of the live circuit how do you describe your style of performance? Clowning? It's not stand up.

[01:16:26] You're in a bit of a need. I tend to avoid calling myself a clown which is a wild claim but I tend to be a little more aggressive. I tend to be a little more aggressive when it comes to how the rest of the audience

[01:16:40] reacts when they hear that. Privately I absolutely feel thinking myself as a clown but for branding purposes I tend to refer to myself as a physical comedian or a trained bush baby. My main aim is to be the most memorable act someone sees in a gig.

[01:16:57] Not the best, not the funniest and the most accomplished but I had an entire row walk out of that bit in Buxton. That's how bloody clean they were to go home and tell their spouses about it. What are your plans for 2023? Will you be back at the fringe?

[01:17:15] Oh, I should interject. Fringe is they're referring to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival that takes place every summer in Scotland in Edinburgh and fringe festivals happen all over the world and therefore fringe-y art and performances. A lot of comedians start one person shows at fringe festivals.

[01:17:36] There's a lot of apparently dancing sperms. I don't know what else he does there. So yeah, the question is will you be back at fringe? It's too early to say. We all had such a luxurious run up time wise to the 2022 fringe.

[01:17:53] I'm not sure if I want to go back to trying to desperately throw a show out there, but I know I'll be back to my favorite show in October or August. Making live shows has always been my favorite way of creating and all I really want

[01:18:11] is the freedom to make the dumb ideas I want to make even if they make no sense from a career perspective. I'm obsessed with the old idea and old idea that Reimagines Bill Gates' rise is a Brelisk strip show Like, Rousseau? Yeah?

[01:18:27] Yeah. I would really like to see that show. That sounds pretty funny. We also have a little bit of listener feedback. And I'll read this first one here. It's from our good friend Tiefen Tebow. And it says, just finished it.

[01:18:48] Think it must still be Wednesday where you are. I love that series more and more after each episode, partly because it is set in Hackney in North London where I live too. Oh, I had no idea. That's so cool. Mostly because it's fucking funny, witty and very human.

[01:19:04] I like that the characters are ordinary people with extraordinary powers. Reminds me of X-Men. Not all mutants with powers are super good looking and uphold moral values. And I looked up some of the places that looked familiar to me.

[01:19:17] The Old King's Head is a real family pub in Shortich. The Charrington Wine's in Spirit also. And the Moth Bar is a pub in Hackney that has live music and comedy nights. It's now 11.33 or 21.33 p.m. in London. Tottenham is losing again. It's 9.33. Oh, 21. Oh, you're right. That's 9.33. 9.33.

[01:19:38] Tottenham is losing again in an FA Cup game. And I need to go to bed. Looking forward to the podcast mates and a little winky emoji. Thank you, Tiefen. Yeah, thanks, Tiefen. We appreciate it. It's always awesome to hear your feedback.

[01:19:54] We also have a voicemail from Mr. Steve Brown playing that now. Hello, Greg and Penny. This is Steve. And this is going to be for episode six of Extraordinary. Well, I know I've missed the last couple of episodes and I'm sorry about that.

[01:20:15] It's just time got away from me. So here we go. Okay, I see Carrie and Jen are still fighting. Oh, now she's being crummy to Gislord. That's not... He's pouring the blood down the sink. This place doesn't have clipboards? Huh, another person who doesn't have her powers yet.

[01:20:31] What kind of lame power is that changing your hair color? Oh no! She cut the braid off the wrong woman. I don't know how I am this cash storyline, but he's just called himself a phoenix and he's in her redemption arc. Come on.

[01:20:48] Does Gislord still change into a cat every once in a while or does he not have a power at all now? You should at least leave your masks on. I'm sure there's cameras in this place. Oh, and poor Hannah just got her powers. Gislord made her suicide tea.

[01:21:06] Aw, but now he's got his head on her shoulder. At least they're friends again. Talk to you later. Thanks, Steve. Thanks, Steve. That was awesome. It's always good to hear from you. Don't have to apologize for missing a couple of weeks.

[01:21:22] We are happy to have your input anytime. Yeah, good point on the clipboard. That was a... I concur, clipboard. Not that hard people. We have another voicemail from our good friend Jade over at the Murder Magnet podcast. What is up, Penny and Greg? Okay, I got some thoughts.

[01:21:47] I'm first of all so excited to see Patricia Allison. Ah, she was truly the best part of sex education and she's so perfect for this role of Jen's like bad influence. I loved it because Jen is usually the bad influence

[01:22:02] so she's like even batter and like more selfish and less shameless than Jen. But I felt so bad for Jen when she discovered her... When Hannah discovered her like teleportation powers and she like disappeared when the security guard came. I was like, oh God, Jen,

[01:22:20] you're totally getting a taste of your own medicine but it was really, really sad. And also like how did Jen get out of that one? She didn't seem to be in trouble. Like she just outran the security guard.

[01:22:33] I mean I would have been like so afraid to show up at that office after that experience but my favorite moment though was when she was pissing on the desk and Hannah was like, why? And she's like, I don't know. Okay, now getting into cash. Oh Lord cash.

[01:22:50] Okay, Carrie giving cash a pep talk makes me want to puke. Like Carrie, why are we dealing with this emotionally stunted man child? Like I thought you were going to stand up for yourself here and like learn that he's not for you but I don't know.

[01:23:04] I'm like, why is it so easy to see characters on TV like dating people that are so beneath them? It hurts my heart because it's so sadly relatable. I'm like, why is it so easy to criticize her decision and like tell Carrie you can do better

[01:23:17] but it's like so hard to look at my own self in the mirror and actually admit that I'm in a toxic relationship. You know past experiences, sorry, too real. But anyway, yeah, for some reason even when cash apologizes and is like giving out Toblerone

[01:23:32] and I still want to punch him in the face. I don't know, I just feel like it's too little too late. Like I know what they're doing with cash. We all knew this. They were making him terrible so they could give him a redemption arc

[01:23:42] but I just feel like there's still something so piteous about him and like pathetic and self-indulgent that I feel like he's going to have to do a lot to redeem himself in my eyes. Like his friends were really, really kind and generous to him when he,

[01:23:57] when they said that he, you know this is what a leader does. You took responsibility. I was like, yeah, I guess. But at like the bare minimum level and honestly, I don't know. I just kind of check out whenever he talks now. I don't know.

[01:24:09] Maybe it was the mood I was in when I watched the episode but I have zero patience for him. I did however enjoy him punching Gregor in the face. That was satisfying because the only character I hate more than cash is definitely Gregor. Okay, now God bless Gislord

[01:24:22] for playing the mediator between Jen and Carrie. He's so sweet and caring and he's just such a good little cat. I love him so much. And I loved when he was like, oh, I must have the word simple wrong. Oh man. And probably my favorite,

[01:24:38] my favorite part of the whole episode was just Gislord's little outfit. He has like royal purple, velvety skinny leggings on at one point. A pea soup green T-shirt and like a yellow and blue striped little old man's sweater vest. And I just for some reason imagine

[01:24:55] this is exactly how a house cat would probably dress like going into their owner's closet and just like kind of snuggling into whatever looks most snuggly. I don't know, it just made me smile so big and Gislord is my favorite and I want to take him home.

[01:25:12] And lastly that song that they played at the end when Carrie and Jen were making up. I looked it up. It's called GMF by John Grant. Never heard it before but I am so in love. I loved the part where he said

[01:25:25] I wonder who they'd get to play me. Maybe they could dig up Richard Burton's corpse. I was like, what is this song? I have got to know. It's really good. You guys should listen to it. Okay, that's all for this week.

[01:25:36] I can't wait to do it next episode. I'm so excited and I'll talk to you guys later. Bye. Bye Jade. Thanks for calling in Jade. Yeah, we should link the that playlist again this week because it is a really great playlist. Music is fantastic.

[01:25:57] It's really, it's like so fresh all the choices they make for music are all things I haven't, almost all things I haven't heard before. I remember last week there was one song that I knew and I was like, I know that one.

[01:26:09] I'm not the most unhip person in the universe. Like. Yeah, that was awesome Jade. Thank you so much. And basically we agree with all of your points. So if you want our podcast down in four minutes, that was about good. But that's that's our show.

[01:26:29] Thanks for listening everybody. If you'd like to get in touch with us or find out more about podcastica, you can find all of our contact information at podcastica.com. You can write in or record a voice message right there on podcastic.com

[01:26:44] or find links to our social media pages or other shows. Speaking of other shows, I actually just listened to the app of states the Star Wars cast of the new the first episode of the Mandalorian and maybe I'm not finished yet, but I'm enjoying it.

[01:27:02] I'm glad to be back in that Star Wars world. Yeah, me too. I was really excited to see little Grogu again. I have been really into strange indeed lately and their coverage of the show you on Netflix. That show is creepy and hilarious and absurd

[01:27:23] and Rima and Paik just really crack me up with their discussion. And they always think of things that I didn't think of when I was watching it. It's it's really fun covered. So I like I watched the seasons two and three

[01:27:41] with them and I like I started watching this one. I just it wasn't that it wasn't for me, but maybe it wasn't for me at that particular point in time because I was just like, oh God, Joe, you're so creepy. Yeah.

[01:27:58] Oh, like no, don't just shut the blinds man. What are you doing? No, just you keep telling yourself, I'm not going to not going to pay attention to that. No, just do do it. I know it's obsessive. But yeah, I like I want to watch the show,

[01:28:17] but sometimes I just can't handle it. Yeah, I know that feeling there. You have to be in the right mental place for some shows and that's one of them. If you is not your thing though, there's plenty of other stuff at podcastica, including the cast of us.

[01:28:32] That show is going to be wrapping up soon and I'm going to go through serious withdrawal because I love it so much. We are way, way hardcore cliffhanger right now and I can't wait to see what happens this Sunday. Yeah, it's awesome.

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[01:29:38] I think, I think, no, it is definitely not too soon to say this. I think you're like the princess Diana of our generation. Seriously. Oh my God, I had been with him my whole life so I would have said that to me.