Episode 137: TED LASSO S03E08 "We'll Never Have Paris"

[00:00:00] Thanks Michael. So you like the Beatles huh? Why that? Cause my dad does. You know what this song is about? Someone named Jude. Not just someone, a little boy named Jude. One day his mom and dad decided to break up and get divorced.

[00:00:48] And that made Jude real real sad. Now Jude's dad had a best friend. Ben was real worried about Jude and all his sad feelings. So he wrote him this song. Hoping that the words might help him somewhere down the road. Along a winding road?

[00:01:11] Don't you know that it's just you? Hey Jude, you do. The moon is on your shoulder. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Hey Henry, you have a great mom and dad and they love the tunes. You know what's weird they live in different countries.

[00:01:40] And I know right now feels like you're in a sad song. But you young man you have the power to take a sad song and make it better. Oh I like that. Yeah, me too. You know what the best thing about this song is? What? This. This.

[00:02:01] La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Hey, dude. Hey, dude. Yo. Hey. Hey. Welcome to another episode of the Revisited Podcast. I'm Ben. And I'm Kristen. This week we are revisiting Ted Lasso season three, episode seven. Eight. We'll never have Paris. Eight.

[00:02:56] You know, one of these days. I didn't write it down this week because you said, OK, here we go because we've been talking for an hour. An hour. And he goes, OK, here we go. So that's pretty. I asked you if you were ready and you were. Yep.

[00:03:13] I know. Well, I was buying books so. So before we dive too deep into Ted Lasso when we get started, we want to let you know, rather than just do it like we've been doing before, we're going to let you know our

[00:03:32] schedule for the next couple for the rest of the summer. Actually. So after this episode, we only have four episodes of Ted Lasso left and they are easily for the best episodes of the season. So we want to make sure we're giving them all the attention.

[00:03:49] Plus, we have a couple people we want to potentially bring in as guests. I know Alex wants to come back on. We want to try and maybe get Greg on for an episode. Maybe Jason can return for an episode as well.

[00:04:00] So to allow us time to kind of organize all of this, not to mention the fact that Kristen, you and your family are going to be traveling a little bit for the summer. I have a show coming up that I'm going to be working.

[00:04:15] Scheduling is going to be tough to kind of pull off. So we have decided we are going to take a little bit of a break after this episode. We are going to break for the next couple of weeks.

[00:04:25] One, so like I mentioned, you and your family can travel, which is great for me because I get to see you guys in person at the end of this week, which is going to be great.

[00:04:36] And then, like I said, I have Contropolis, New Jersey, which is coming up the week of the 12th, 13th and 14th of July. So that means for the next three weeks, we are going to take a little break.

[00:04:49] We're going to return with new episode of the podcast on Monday, the 22nd. And from that point on, we're going to go full bore into the last four episodes of Ted Lasso and wrap up the series.

[00:05:03] After that, Kristen is going to be preparing to go back into the school year because we're approaching the new year, the new school year for Kristen. I have another show. I'm going to be out in Colorado working a show then. And then we have Labor Day.

[00:05:19] So after we wrap up Ted Lasso, we're going to take another short break for another couple of weeks. And we're going to return on. I should have had this pulled up September 9th. And we're going to dive. That'll be our first episode into the good place.

[00:05:35] Kick off good plays. So it's almost like we're going to take like a midseason finale and then a season finale break. Yeah. Just like a month later. And then we'll return with the new season with the good place on September 9th. So there's our schedule ahead of time.

[00:05:53] So you know it. Sounds forking great. There's a lot of excitement for people. I can't wait to just say forking all the time. And short and shirt balls. I just can't wait. It's going to be great. I'm going to say it in front of my students.

[00:06:08] I just know it. And I just know it. So Jason, the head of podcastica. He's very excited. He found out as we call him the pod father. He's very excited. He found out that we were doing the good place and he messaged me. He's like, that's awesome.

[00:06:25] Can I come on? Of course. Like, yeah, of course. And you brought up a good point too. Every show we've covered. Ted Lasso kind of started with it a little bit earlier with like half hour episodes. And now we're into like the hour to hour and 15 episodes.

[00:06:43] Good place is all 24 minutes. 20 minutes. Every episode. Yep. 22 to 24 minutes every episode. So it'll probably be the quicker conversations, shorter podcasts. Okay. Right? Yeah. Sure. Sure. And but we'll see. And Jason did remind me. Let's not write a check that our mouths can't cash. Okay.

[00:07:03] This is very, very, very true. But Jason did remind me of something too that I felt kind of intimidated by. And then I thought about it and I'm like, no, there's no reason to. The good place because of the show, because of what it is, it's like,

[00:07:17] it's after death and you know, heaven, hell, whatever. It becomes very philosophical at times. And I was like, oh, I don't know if I'm ready for that. And I'm like, you know what? No, fucking A, I'm ready for that. Let's go. That's like, that's my jam right there.

[00:07:31] English teacher, you know what I'm saying? Like, that is my jam. Oh, are we going to break down something? Cool. Let me get my notebook. Yeah. And what I like about it too is that because I'm not an overly religious person

[00:07:42] and there's really not a lot of, like, yes, it's heaven and hell, but deemed in terms of the good place, bad place. There's not a lot of, I mean, there's religious undertones, obviously, because it's post-life, but it doesn't dive into that kind of, not that I remember.

[00:07:58] It can't be more religious undertones than lost. Right. Okay. So yeah, I'm not worried about, worried about what's coming up because lost broke our brains at times. Yeah. This is accurate. So I think we're okay. Yeah, this is accurate. Yeah. We finished Lost.

[00:08:19] I don't know if I said that on the podcast yet. You said it last week. Did I? Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah, because I talked to Danny. Yes, you did. Afterwards, I talked to your daughter, Danny, about it a little bit,

[00:08:31] and I'm sure I'll get to talk to her again this weekend. She loved that show, loved it, loved it. You, I was telling, I was actually telling my mom about something, like the differences in like the personalities that your kids have,

[00:08:49] like between Danny and Adam, and how you kind of relate more to certain things. You, I think maybe like there's some things you relate closer to Adam on, and then there are some things you relate closer to Danny on. 100%. 100%.

[00:09:03] You know, like when it comes to Lost, you and Danny have the same love for that show, but Adam doesn't really do it. Adam's not, he's just not there yet. He's not making that deep. He's 11. Yeah. And then there-

[00:09:16] Danny is almost 13 years old and full of middle school feelings. Yes, she has, she thinks that deep. And then there are other things that like as far as like maybe like horror experiences

[00:09:26] where like you and Adam are like, you and Adam are kind of like chicken shits about that, but then your daughter's like, bring it on. Let's go. I know. Well, we watched, we started watching Walking Dead and she loved the first episode.

[00:09:40] When she saw Bicycle Walker, she was just like, what is this? Like the minute that Bicycle Walker just like looked up at Rick, she's like, this is amazing. Like she actually crawled forward on the couch and she was looking. But then we got to guts.

[00:09:55] And when they were spreading the guts on their outfits, you know, she said, let's turn it off. So she has a limit and it's when you spread human guts all over your body. Thurs, I mean, you want to talk about like, like heartbreak.

[00:10:15] There are some heartbreaking moments in that show too. And she seems emotionally ready for at least the first two seasons. Like I think she could handle Sophia, but she couldn't handle the season seven opener. You know what I mean? Oh, well, that's just brutal.

[00:10:34] Like I can't, I can't. Yeah. I will never revisit that episode again. But I mean, God, like you mentioned something that just made my heart sink. Sophia. Even just thinking about it. Yeah. Because I remember when that episode aired and like that whole big reveal

[00:10:52] about Sophia, like my heart dropped. Yeah. No, I felt sick to my stomach. Yeah. Yeah. It was that was a rough. That was iconic. That was an iconic television scene for a Walking Dead fan or first television fan really. Yeah.

[00:11:14] I mean, the only other thing I can see, I think Danny would also love the episode no sanctuary. Remind me which one is no sanctuary. Was bad to the fans. It's a rough episode. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Yeah, like there's just there's other moments from that show,

[00:11:33] like look at the flowers is another one. Oh my gosh. No, I see and that's another. Yeah. So it I think I just want to introduce her to it. So it's like the first season is pretty vanilla. The first six. Oh, well, the first.

[00:11:50] Yeah, it's even I as a fan of the comic before we even start before the show even started. Like I was excited that we were getting a live action Walking Dead because at the time I was reading the comics.

[00:12:03] I was a huge fan of zombies, which I still am. So I was excited and then I remember getting to the end of that season. I'm like this is not what I expected. Like it started good and I'm like I kind of not feeling this.

[00:12:17] And then they fired all the writers. And they brought in new writers for season two and season two on. I was like, OK, I'm in like this is what I wanted. So it's interesting that you say that because and I know we're going off topic here,

[00:12:33] but we'll put it in the show notes when we start. It's the midseason. It's the midsummer break after this. Right. But we can we can kind of. Sorry. What's interesting to me is that because I was never a horror fan. I was never a zombie fan.

[00:12:47] Like it just it really creeped me out. And so a lot of people were like, listen, it is the stories about humanity. The stories about, you know, the devolvement of society, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, OK, all right.

[00:13:01] So for me, the first six episodes were really, really good for a non horror fan to get into the show, especially the CDC episode, which is such a controversial episode. And for me, it helped me buy into the series because I wasn't a fan of the comics,

[00:13:23] because I wasn't a horror fan. So those first six episodes brought in a new demographic at the expense to the comic book fans. I can see that. I mean, yeah, I that does make a lot of sense because you're right.

[00:13:38] As a fan of horror and zombies like I was like, let's just get to it. And you're right. But taking that kind of back tone to it with the seed because I didn't like the

[00:13:47] CDC episode, the CDC episode, because I was like, this is not in the comics. I don't want to see this. I loved it. I can. But now that's a good perspective to kind of see it from somebody who wasn't a horror fan

[00:13:58] as a way to kind of bring them in, because the argument can be made that the title The Walking Dead is actually not in reference to the zombies. It's in reference to humanity. Right. Yeah. Right.

[00:14:08] And, and, you know, Rick, Rick says that perfectly in season six, I think. Welcome to a reboot of The Walking Dead cast. Tornado episode. Anyways, well, you know what? On that note, I just want to remind anybody that's not listening that Jason and Lucy

[00:14:28] are doing a rewatch of The Walking Dead on The Walking Dead cast. I think that they are closing out season two or maybe starting season three. I can't remember where they at, but they are still very early on. They're in the first or second season of the show.

[00:14:44] Yeah. So definitely check that out if you haven't checked that out. Yeah. That's a good way to kind of transition into that. Yeah. That was our ad. That was our ad. That's what it was. That was our ad break. You can take any payment from you, Kibazi.

[00:14:58] That was our way to call them out right away. That was our built in ad break for podcast. They can The Walking Dead cast on that note. Let's transition into what we're here for. And that's talking about Ted Lasso. Talk about people is life.

[00:15:19] As always, if you are watching for the first time, we're going to take a little break a little bit later on. Actually, I don't know. Do you have anything for a spoiler talk this week? Yes, I have one thing. OK. All right.

[00:15:28] So then we will do us a short spoiler section later on. So if you want to avoid spoilers, just check the show notes to find out what time frame to skip before we go into favorite quotes, feedback or recommendations following that.

[00:15:41] Season three episode eight will never have Paris. This is not one of my favorite episodes of the season. It's the lowest rated episode of the series. Of the series or of the season? I think it's of the series. Oh, wow. It's like a six. Oh, wow. OK.

[00:15:59] I have to tell you though, rewatching it, I didn't hate it as much as I thought I was going to. And a lot of that has to do with Henry and Beard. And I really like seeing people back together.

[00:16:18] We haven't seen Ted and Rebecca have just a talk between the two of them in so long. That was nice. It was nice. And it was also great seeing Keely and Rebecca kind of go back to. I mean, we got a little taste of that last episode.

[00:16:33] But we got a lot of that this episode, like of what their relationship is. Well, and we see, I think we see through that lens that while Rebecca is pulling Keely up and making her not feel ashamed of herself, which she already feels deep shame probably,

[00:16:54] and not shame for making the video, not shame for sending the video, but shame that it got out. Shame that something that was not for everybody is now for everybody. There's a huge difference between here I am topless in a magazine that I'm being paid for,

[00:17:14] and here is a private video that I sent my boyfriend. And Rebecca helps her through that and makes her feel like, you know what? It's okay. You're okay. You are still you. Well, I've been... On the other hand, she sees, and I think it's through

[00:17:32] that conversation and that experience that Keely's eyes are finally open. That's exactly what I was just about to say. Yep. Mm-hmm. To this toxic relationship that she's found herself in where she's completely submissive to Jack. And Jack has completely made Keely into somebody that she's not.

[00:17:53] Well, not only that, but it's because of Rebecca, her conversation with Rebecca, that she is able to see that Jack is not ashamed of Keely. Jack is not upset or disappointed in everything because Keely did it. It's because she's less worried about how people are looking at Keely

[00:18:15] and more worried about how people are looking at her being with Keely. And I don't even think that that's the truth. I think that it's pressure from her billionaire father. Yeah. We cannot have this on our family. Yeah. We cannot have this on our image.

[00:18:31] And so because I had an overbearing father when he decided to be in my life, and he would guide me to do things that looked good. And it was very overbearing. And when you're stuck in this, I want to please my father's cycle.

[00:18:49] You're going to do whatever you can to keep him in your good graces. And I think that Jack has lost sight of who she is. And I don't even think that she realizes it. Yeah. That's a good point. I didn't even really consider the family aspect of that

[00:19:05] and her father because she does make it known that she goes to see her father. And one of the other things about this whole thing that I didn't like, and it kind of dives further into the toxicity of Jack and Keely,

[00:19:18] is the fact that when Keely first discovers that this video was out there, Jack says the first thing that Jack says to her is I'll fix it. I'm going to fix this for you. I'm going to fix it. Like, okay, that's more of you flaunting money. Right.

[00:19:35] Because how else are you going to fix it? She loves to say how rich she is. She loves to say how rich she is. But then there's also that moment where it's weird like Keely to her is nothing more than a trophy. Like this is. Yes.

[00:19:49] It is. She is flaunting Keely the same way she flaunts her money. And there's no emotional tie. It's all physicality. It's all I'm showing off Keely to everybody. But then when there's a moment where she actually is able to show off Keely. When things get real. She doesn't.

[00:20:09] She calls Keely when she runs into her friend at the miniature golf course. She calls Keely her friend. Oof. After, you know, and like there's a key difference because like there's a point that can be made that Jack is the one

[00:20:24] that comes out and says, hey, Keely and I are dating. But that's to workers. Those are people who are under her. People who are on her level as in friends and family. She doesn't admit it to. She plays it off as if Keely is nothing more

[00:20:38] is in nothing more than a friend. But to anybody who's under her, Keely is a trophy. And I'm going to show her off. Yeah. Well, and you could definitely see during that miniature golf game to Jack dressed in like an all white power suit

[00:20:56] and Keely's dressed as a little girl. I just realized there. I just realized there are three white outfits in this in this in this episode, which could be total coincidence or it could not be because we get. Jack in that white suit that you mentioned.

[00:21:16] We get Rebecca wearing all white when she's talking to Ted during the Hey, June seed, which I fucking loved. Yeah, it's the perfect scene. We'll talk about that later. And then another scene that I absolutely loved is Jamie coming to Keely and he's wearing all white.

[00:21:32] Well, night a knight in shining armor is usually wearing a white hat. That's a good point. And we'll talk about that scene, too, because that's another. I have notes on that scene as well. So that's interesting. But you're right.

[00:21:48] Like in the way that they're that Jack is even presenting herself. And this is so never I don't want to say it. I'm going to keep that thought to myself. I hate you. I mean, if you want me to say it later, I mean, look, so here it's.

[00:22:12] Okay, so let me preface this by. I don't want to come off like show. He's never struggled this much. I can't wait. I don't want to come off chauvinistic like that. But that outfit does not flatter Jack at all. Are you OK? I'm sorry.

[00:22:24] So I thought it was amazing. Like if I could pull off that suit, I would like there's no shirt underneath. She's got the plunging neckline. It's just beautiful like lines all down. Gorgeous. It's a beautiful outfit. It doesn't work for Jack because all I saw was rib cage.

[00:22:47] Hmm. OK. Jack does not have the body to pull off that outfit. That's the point I'm trying to make. OK. It's a good if it was on Keely, Rebecca, like anybody. Jack just does not. So doesn't have the anyway. So I'm wondering. No, no, no.

[00:23:04] This is a good point because I'm wondering because I just love the outfit. I didn't notice how it hung on her. But I'm wondering if that's weird that I did and you didn't. But OK. Well, I'm wondering if that if maybe it was supposed to be ill fitting

[00:23:18] because she's playing a part. Maybe. You know, Jack is not Jack. Jack doesn't know who Jack is. You know what Jack does though? What's that? You know what Jack come on. Jack sucks. Do it again. Do it again. Jack just sucks. Yes, Jack just sucks.

[00:23:42] But I didn't take the hit right away. But I got it. Sorry. Oh, I love that we got to use it. Oh, shit. Yeah. So I don't know. Let me see. I have some other stuff about Jack. Let me see if I do.

[00:24:00] Um, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I mean, you know, while you're looking for everything else, too, like one of the other things I'll mention about Jack, too. And we kind of I kind of touched on it a little bit is, you know,

[00:24:11] Jack's idea of taking care of it wasn't her own. It was she had to go to somebody else to take care of it. She went to her father and her father went to their lawyer. Like her idea of taking caring, taking care of it,

[00:24:25] wasn't even her taking care of it. It was somebody else taking care of it. Right. Right. Absolutely. I don't think Jack knows how to do anything except call her dad. Yes. She's not real. She's not self-reliant. She is not a self-reliant person in the least.

[00:24:39] No, not at all. But she does have, you know, some sort of power because, you know, she just calls her dad and her dad takes care of it with snap fingers, but with conditions, right? So, um, I don't know.

[00:24:52] I just, Jack is 100% embarrassed of Keely by the end of this episode. Keely finally sees that she's not in a real relationship, that she's just another trophy. And I think that she thought it was something real, but she's been a trophy for everybody except for Roy. Yeah.

[00:25:16] Yeah, Roy has been pretty much the only, like the relationship that we've seen at least as viewers where she was treated as a person. I think that that was her first adult relationship. Although, you know, I was kind of disappointed in Roy this episode.

[00:25:35] As I love him, he was disappointed in himself. He knew he, he knew he fucked up after he did it. And it was like when he, he does the right thing and he's like, he asks Keely how she's doing, but then he makes that mistake.

[00:25:52] Well, who was it for? Like, okay, Roy, your jealousy is showing there a little bit. Not a little bit, a lot of it. And you know, and Keely kind of just writes it off and walks away and Roy knows right in that moment.

[00:26:08] I like, oh, that was, that was wrong. Well, like you have to look at the way that Keely's dressed too. Keely is about as tightly wrapped as she can be, right? She has been exposed. She feels exposed.

[00:26:21] You know, Roy should have seen the fact that she had that jacket on as tight as it would be, as tight as it would go. So it's like you can't take an already vulnerable person and just further make them, make them feel further exposed, right?

[00:26:40] And I get it. I mean, Roy said, Roy really struggled with that question too, but the minute it came out of his mouth, you just, you want to slap him a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then who is it that actually saves the day?

[00:26:57] So before we get to that point, I want to kind of take it a step back a little bit too continuing on with this conversation, but kind of going to another element of it is the locker room. That was such a good scene.

[00:27:12] So I love the fact that, you know, the whole conversation about should you delete, should you not delete, should you not keep these pictures. Look, this is a very real situation. There have been real life leaks of people's phones.

[00:27:28] There have been video, like videos and personal videos and nude pictures that have leaked online of actors and actresses. And you know, there is a real stigma that a lot of times it plays into this episode

[00:27:43] that there are a majority of people who unfortunately blamed the victims rather than the people who actually do the releasing of it. And that is a problem because they're, you know, the victims are the victims. They're not the people to blame for all this.

[00:28:01] Normal everyday people do this too just because these people are in a public spot, like doesn't mean they're like they should hold back just like normal people. Like it's the stigma on blaming the victim is a huge problem in this country and

[00:28:18] all over the world right now obviously, because this is the UK. But you know, I love the fact of that locker room conversation where they are having that debate of, you know, why should we have to delete the picture as well?

[00:28:30] We're in the public eye and that debate continues on until Keely's name is mentioned. And they realize it is close to home. This is somebody that we love and we care about who's affected by this. And in that moment, it's like this debate's over.

[00:28:48] Yeah, they all call out their phones. Isaac's like delete everything. Like we are not taking this risk and also we're doing this. And you know they're doing it in solidarity with Keely too. You know, because that's the moment that Roy hears it.

[00:29:04] And that's when like he now knows that Keely is affected. And you can tell in that moment it's bothering him. Mm-hmm. So that whole locker room moment, I really like too because there is a legitimate debate that is happening between all of them.

[00:29:22] And I love the fact like it kind of a lighthearted moment that when Isaac comes out and he says, okay, take out your phones, delete everything. Did you notice that Will is deleting stuff? And did you notice that Jamie is looking at the pictures? And he's like, okay.

[00:29:37] Okay. Well, we know that Will's a little freaky. Yeah. Will's got a little secret side to him. And mum knows all about it. He's deleting pictures of that threesome from Amsterdam. Yeah, he is.

[00:29:51] Did you notice I love that Sam and Jamie just walked right out of the locker room. They had nothing to delete from their phones. Yeah. Well, they, that was part of their debate. It's like once the relationship is over, that's it. I didn't have anything either.

[00:30:08] I don't know if you noticed that, but no, I didn't have anything. I love that Sam and it plays into Sam's character so much when he says, I give them the phone and tell them to delete whatever. Yeah. And then she deleted Candy Crush.

[00:30:23] I was kind of devastated. But then I got it. That's so cute. I'm not sure he did that with Rebecca though, because I don't think that there was like an official breakup. I think that they just kind of stopped talking.

[00:30:39] But I'm also confident there's nothing of Rebecca on Sam's phone. Yeah. Because that's just the person that Sam is. I hope that he deleted the banter app. I think Sam's kind of passed that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:30:53] I would like to think that he, because he's got CME now too, which there seems to be a little connection there. And they might be contractually obligated to have the banter app since they're sponsored by banter. Probably. But that's besides the point.

[00:31:12] Something huge comes out of this scene. There is, and that's Colin. Yeah. And you know, he goes to the other room. I got to tell you, I was really upset with Isaac in this moment. You don't steal his phone. He says that he's doing it. Trust your friend.

[00:31:26] Don't take his phone and look at his personal business. Yeah, I can see that. I didn't really think about that at the time. But yeah, I can definitely see that. But you're right. Isaac sees something on that phone. Isaac forces Colin to come out, to him.

[00:31:46] To him, yeah. Correct. And Isaac does not react correctly. You can tell he's a little upset. And we don't know what he's upset about. We will find out next episode. Mm-hmm. But Colin... I'm not diving into spoilers. Yeah, Colin looks devastated.

[00:32:13] This is going to play out next episode. But you're right. This moment sets up something huge for Colin. And really it sets up something that's going to test Colin and Isaac's friendship. Yeah. And again, it's going to play out next episode,

[00:32:31] so I don't want to dive into too much details. But you're right. Like, there is something that comes out of it, and it is Colin and Isaac. Yeah, poor Colin. Poor Colin. But you know what? It's needed to happen,

[00:32:43] and we're going to get kind of the fallout of that in the next couple of episodes. But that was definitely... Colin's trying to do what his captain told him to do and delete all of his pictures. But he can't do that in the locker room

[00:33:01] when everybody else has women on their phones. So he excuses himself to the other room. Now, Isaac should have just seen, okay, he's on his phone, he's obviously deleting, and he's doing it in private at the end. But Isaac just... What do you call it?

[00:33:17] Bull in a China Shops his way into Colin's private business. And now we have the fallout from that coming up. Pivoting back to the locker room, Jamie... Jamie really shows how much he's changed in this episode. I mean, we've talked about it, about how much he's changed.

[00:33:38] We've talked about him on the field and his friendship with Roy and his clarity about Zava joining the team. Hypocrisy. But we really see Jamie's evolution in action at the end of this episode this week.

[00:33:56] I want to say, and this is my one major note on this scene and then we can talk about it a little bit more. I have it listed in my notes as Jamie and Keely, Jamie Adult. I honestly saw Jamie differently when he is standing at Keely's door.

[00:34:18] He is not wearing a flashy outfit. He's not wearing an icon hat. He's not wearing sunglasses. He's not wearing sunglasses or anything like that. He is standing at Keely's door. You messed it up. You're stupid. He is standing at Keely's door as Jamie. Nothing more, nothing less.

[00:34:47] And his hair even looks bad. You think his hair looks bad? In that scene, yeah. It's like in his face, kind of flat. But it's weird. Upon first watch of this, I was like, wow, like this is actually, I think the first time throughout this entire series,

[00:35:04] I'm seeing Jamie not immature. Does that make sense? Like I'm seeing Jamie as a full adult. Because he always has been at least even through his evolution. He's been a little boyish and a little immature at times.

[00:35:21] This is the first time I'm seeing Jamie throughout this entire series. Like, no, he's grown up. This is Jamie the adult. Well, he is trying to take responsibility for what he believes is his fault. And I mean, I love the fact that he comes up to Keely

[00:35:38] and he's just like, I didn't even think about email. And I love it that he goes, I kept all of them until I realized that you and Roy were real. So I deleted half of them. Like he was so honest. And he said he deleted half of them,

[00:35:58] but he kept a couple because he always thought they would get back together. And then when he realized they wouldn't, he deleted everything. Right. But he never thought about email. Yeah, exactly. And you know, Keely was great. She's like, this is not your fault. And it's not.

[00:36:14] It's really not. It's neither one of their fault. Right. And you know, what sucks is that the news, and this is any news, right? The news just wants to, like Keely said, they blast women for being, the media sexualizes women and then blasts women for being sexualized.

[00:36:39] It's the media's fault. It's the hacker's fault. It's the people that are buying these videos that are reposting the videos, but we don't talk about that. We talk about the woman being a slut. We talk about, well, okay, that's private. That is private media, private property.

[00:36:55] Well, that's what I said earlier. It's victim blaming. Yeah, it's blaming the victim and not the person that did it. And that's a huge problem. Right. Right. So, yeah. But you know, going past all that too, like, it's great for Keely.

[00:37:17] It's a great moment for Jamie and Keely. But I feel like it was, we had just seen the fallout of Keely and Jack before this. Like this is the moment where, you know, Jack is saying like, well, maybe you shouldn't have made the video.

[00:37:31] Like basically again, victim blaming rather than blaming the problem person. Jack is just as guilty as everybody else for victim blaming when it comes to Keely. She's putting the fault on Keely for being the one making the video, not the one releasing it.

[00:37:47] I think she's the worst at it. She makes everything worse. You know, she, that last conversation that they have together is just disgusting. You know, especially coming from a woman. And it just proves that she is not her own person, that she's not even saying her own words.

[00:38:07] That's probably her father's words. Well, on that note too, look at the statement. The statement wasn't even written by her. No. She's not using her own words there either. No, she's not. And I think, and it's so funny because when Barbara comes in with that statement,

[00:38:23] Barbara knows that this is over. I love Barbara. I really do. I said it earlier on that she's a character you will grow to appreciate. Yeah. And like these are those moments like where you start to really appreciate Barbara for the person that she is.

[00:38:43] And I think Barbara, I think Keely crawls into, like finds that crack in Barbara's very, very tough shell exterior, you know? And it starts with the snow globes and then it just kind of goes from there, right? Keely, you can't help but be softened by Keely.

[00:39:04] You know, she is, she's so kind and warm and generous. And it doesn't matter how jaded or cynical you are, as you see with the evolution of Barbara throughout the season, Keely will get under your skin and soften you and make you better. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:39:23] And Jack didn't do that. Jack dampened Keely. And I'm so glad that we're at the end of Jack. I really, really am because when we finally see Jack for who she is, it all falls into place. She was what? Love bombing Keely, right?

[00:39:47] But she never really went out in public with Keely. She stayed in the, they went to Taste of Athens. They didn't go to some big restaurant that her billionaire bank account could take them. They did a private plane up to the Northern Lights on a secret trip.

[00:40:05] They did eat outdoors at cafes a couple of times out in public. That's what I'm saying though, yeah. But it wasn't like, you know, she canceled the polo match. Yeah. That was when I was just going to bring up the whole thing with like her

[00:40:16] surrogate uncle, you know, where there was family there, the big event like yet, like she canceled that. She was looking, you know, she extended the invite to Keely, but then the first opportunity she had to have an excuse to not take Keely, she jumped right on it.

[00:40:34] Jumped right on it. Right on it. And then, you know, and then you see further, they're at a mini golf game and Jack looks shaken that somebody knows her at the mini golf game. Well, because she didn't expect anybody there to know who she was.

[00:40:47] Exactly, because she's taking, listen, I've been in an abusive relationship where somebody wants to hide me. Okay? I have been a hidden girlfriend before. It is not great. Yeah. And when you look back on, and like, you know, I mean, if Keely was a real person,

[00:41:03] if Keely were to look back on the relationship she would see, I was being hidden away. Well, I mean, in those situations, hindsight is usually always 2020. Yeah. A lot of times. 2015. And a lot of times you don't see the toxicity while you're in it.

[00:41:17] You have to step outside of it in order to see it. Keely needed to feel needed because Roy, she felt discarded by Roy. She needed somebody to make her feel better. Yeah. And Jack fit the bill for a while until Keely realized that this wasn't real.

[00:41:36] Well, and that brings me back to the point that I was making before too, is that with the moment with Jamie at the end of this, Jamie comes in to apologize and there's no ulterior motive. He just literally just wants to say he's sorry.

[00:41:49] He feels like he's to blame, but it comes at the perfect time because this is something that Keely needed. She needed something to make her feel better, to make her feel comfortable and comforted. And Jamie stepped in and did it at the right time in the right way.

[00:42:05] And again, there was no ulterior motive or anything like that. It just fell perfectly at the right time. That hug felt so comforting too. Yeah. Like I felt the hug. You know what I mean?

[00:42:17] That hug that she gave him and like just the way that they enveloped each other, you just felt that they really had at some point in their relationship, they had to have had a deep connection or they have more of a deep connection now with their shared history.

[00:42:34] I think it's that. You know what I mean? But yeah. In any event, I just love the fact that it was Jamie that made Keely feel like everything was going to be okay. Well, I mean we hear stories constantly about people who are in relationships

[00:42:52] and or even married and decide to end the marriage and become better friends after it's over. You know, a huge one that I can think of off the top of my head is Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman. Although he says he wants her back. Oh, does he?

[00:43:09] I haven't. I haven't heard about that. But they are very publicly, they were married for a long period of time. They have kids together and then decided to end the marriage. And there are numerous conversations and interviews with both of them.

[00:43:22] They have said like we are much better friends now than we ever were before we were married. And now hearing that Danny wants her back kind of plays into Jamie and Keely a little bit, but we won't go into that part yet. Yeah, that's true.

[00:43:36] Because we're not there yet on the show. But now that kind of makes sense. So yeah, that just Jamie's moment with Keely was just so heartwarming and so great and so grown up for Jamie. And like I said, just came at the right time for that. 100%.

[00:43:57] Before we get into Ted and Michelle and Henry and Jacob, I want to talk about Nate. Nate and Jade in this episode, because there's a huge. We said there were big things coming for Nate in this story. I love we get there's really three relationships throughout this episode.

[00:44:21] We've got Nate and Jade, which is just getting started. We've got Keely and Jack, which is ending. And then we have Michelle and Ted, which I think the point can be argued is re-sparking. But we'll talk about that when we get to that.

[00:44:35] Nate and Jade, I love seeing the beginning of this relationship because. So awkward. It's so awkward, but kind of adorable. Oh, so adorable. At the same time. Yes. The fact that Nate and I felt it so much. I've never done it, but I felt it.

[00:44:53] The fact that when he wakes up next to Jade for the first time and he's brushed his teeth, he showered, he shaved, and he used the bathroom in the flat next door because. Because he just probably didn't want to be seen in that vulnerable state.

[00:45:14] But like that whole point in a relationship is like, okay, like what are we? Are we boyfriend girlfriend? It still confuses me, but I can't think of any other way to put it. That full grown adults up until they're like 40s, 50s, 60s.

[00:45:33] However, we still use the term boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah. Okay. I mean, boy. Well, you wouldn't call them male friend, female friend. Yeah. Whoa. What else are you going to call it? You know what I mean? I don't know. Like the character. You can. No. No.

[00:45:50] A partner is somebody. I consider a partner to be somebody that I live with. My partner. My partner in life. Well, that's like when you're like, yeah, when you're married. Right. Before that, yeah. That's my boyfriend, my girlfriend, whatever.

[00:46:05] No, trust me, I still use the term myself, but it's still every once in a while. I'm like, that is such a middle school term. But yeah, we still use it. Do you think Nate has ever had a girlfriend? You know, I did question that.

[00:46:20] Like, there's something if he hasn't, there is such a natural chemistry between him and Jade that it just feels great. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like this, like they are, it's like these two people have were meant to be together because they are just so comfortable with each other.

[00:46:50] And like you can tell, like Jade has fun kind of poking at Nate a little bit because she can see the little boyish charm in Nate. So she kind of pokes at it a little bit. She sees his anxiety that he has like actual anxiety.

[00:47:05] Like that's not his personality. His personality is underneath the anxiety and thankfully she's had a chance to see the personality underneath his very awkward exterior. Yes. Yeah. I mean, like in that conversation where she wakes up and they're talking about like when he's like, well, what are we?

[00:47:24] Like is this just fun? And she's like, yep. And then walks away knowing full well, like that's just it. It's going to eff with him. It's just and that's just it. Like she's doing it not maliciously. Like she's playing with him, but like it is playful. Yeah.

[00:47:39] But can we just talk about the fact that she did that on game day? Well, maybe she did that because she didn't want him to be distracted at all. Like or I don't know, maybe she's too distracted. I don't know. He had a really weird day.

[00:47:54] He woke up with this girl that he thinks is his girlfriend, but she won't tell him. Then Ted comes to his game and Rupert apologizes. And then he like it's just a weird day for poor Nate.

[00:48:08] But you know, like there are a couple of things that come out of this similar to how we get Colin and Isaac in the whole locker room scene that kind of come out of it.

[00:48:17] There are a little there are a couple little things that come out of that. First off, the moment that Jade and Nate call each other boyfriend and girlfriend is so fucking adorable. I know that they are smiling and laughing and like, yeah, like that's what I am.

[00:48:33] Like they're like they're admitting it. It's just it's so cute because we've all been there like the first time we admit that that's what we are. Yeah. Like it's it feels good. It makes you happy to accept those labels. Well, you feel like you're not so alone. Yeah.

[00:48:51] You know, you feel like, oh wow, like this person that I've been spending time with actually wants to like spend time with me regularly. I don't know. Anybody that's had a brand new relationship knows it just fills you with joy and happiness. Yeah.

[00:49:07] But there are two other things I feel like that come out of this because you did mention the fact that Henry wants to go to a football game. The only football game is West Ham. So that's where they go.

[00:49:17] And like we see like Henry is like he's dressed in West Ham stuff. He's waving to Nate. He's calling out the Nate Nate season and Nate still trying to play the hard ass in that moment. Yeah. But then we get that moment with Rupert texting him.

[00:49:35] And it's not great game. Well done. It's sorry Ted was there. And like I think there's a moment of clarity and then it happens again. It becomes even clearer later on is Nate is starting to see exactly what he is to that team

[00:49:57] or what he is to Rupert. And it's a tool. Do you think so? Do I think that Nate is starting to see it or that that's what he is? Yeah. No. I do you think that Nate is starting to see that?

[00:50:12] I think he's kind of getting a hint. Defend. I don't know if I can defend. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe I'm just using the knowledge of what I already know to kind of predict that.

[00:50:32] Or it could also be because we do see him try to make his own Diamond Dogs. Yeah. Oh, he called I haven't written down the love squad. Right. Wolfhounds. Lovehounds. Lovehounds. Lovehounds. Yep.

[00:50:50] But that I mean but that brings me to the next moment and that is when he is on his computer. It's right before Jade and him name their labels together. And she's like don't you and she says do you want to celebrate?

[00:51:06] And he's like no, like I have to work on you know the next one. I don't have time to celebrate and she sees the picture of Ted Beard and Henry and says what looks like they did.

[00:51:17] And there's this smile that comes to Nate's face because I think he's starting to realize those were happier times. Like they were better times. He didn't have as much on he though he didn't have the world on his shoulders then. Things are falling into place for him personally.

[00:51:41] And so now it's time for him to clean up his professional life. And like it's what leads to this whole moment of them and Nate actually because he does he sees that picture and he smiles. Like he's he's remembering happy times. Yeah.

[00:52:00] Whether they were happier times or he feels like they were happier times whatever. He is triggering good memories. There are it's not negative stigma for him to remember Ted anymore. Like he sees Ted, he sees Henry. It's Henry. And it's Henry. It's Henry. You're right. It's Henry.

[00:52:21] He's remembering good things. He sees that Ted isn't just being nice to him to be nice to him when he sees him like as a mental mind game that maybe Rupert has been playing or

[00:52:34] Nate has also been playing mind games because he knows Ted well enough to know that he would never use Henry as a mind game for Nate. He knows that deep down. And so Henry and Ted being at that game probably meant more to Nate than anything else.

[00:52:57] And let's just say beard rocks. I have to go home first. I have to go home first. The best. He's just there all stoic with his arms crossed wearing full Richmond gear. Full Richmond gear. It was awesome. But you're right.

[00:53:13] And I'll even take it a step further too and this might be diving too deep into it too. But let's not forget that that whole fallout between Nate and Ted, he mentions like you don't even have the picture of me.

[00:53:24] All you have is a picture of dumb Americans and that was a picture of his family. Right. And now he's seeing his family like he's seeing Ted there with Henry, seeing Ted there with his family. And this is a different time because at that point Nate was alone.

[00:53:41] He didn't have that kind of relationship with anyone to see what family means. But now he's spending more time with his own with his own family. He has Jade who was in a new relationship with. He now has those things that Ted had.

[00:53:59] So he might be seeing that moment a little differently now. Yeah, before all Nate had was football and he needed all of his validation to be through football. And now he's getting his validation from the places he's supposed to get his validation

[00:54:15] from the people that he loves and from the people that love him. And so it's going to make him see his professional life through another lens. Well, yeah, because we're going to like we see why Ted does the things that he does.

[00:54:33] And a lot of it is for family, whether that's his own family or it's Richmond as a family. And Nate taking over West Ham, Nate was doing it for Nate. But now he has other people to do things for.

[00:54:47] And that, like you said, that's going to make him look at his professional career differently. He's going to see if they wouldn't do lens, like you said. His assistant coach sucks, by the way. What a dick.

[00:55:03] I mean, look at him talking about the divorces that he's had and everything. Never tell them your feelings. I've been divorced three times. Okay, let me take advice from you. Yeah, exactly. And we're going to see no spoiler.

[00:55:20] This is going to impact Nate in a huge way next episode. Well, you know, and I think it's really telling that we only catch one glimpse of Rupert this episode and he's pissed. When do we see Rupert this episode?

[00:55:35] When he was in the very beginning when they were showing them winning and winning and talking about and the Richmond is on a win streak. The talking heads are talking about the win streak.

[00:55:46] Rupert's in his office on his computer looking at the win streak and listening to the news and he's pissed. Oh, I must have glanced right past it. Well, that big it's the intro, right? And then it goes right into the most awkward

[00:55:59] lunch of all time with Jacob, Michelle and Ted. Yeah. But shoot. Oh, and then he ghosts the first Wolfhound, Lovehound meeting. And when Nate calls Rupert's office, the assistant basically hangs up on him, which to me tells me all I need to know about what's happening there.

[00:56:28] And I think that because I think that's another. So maybe I can use that moment to kind of defend what I said earlier about how Nate is now starting to get an idea of that he's nothing more than just an employee.

[00:56:40] Like he's not this Rupert never meant to mentor him. Like he's just somebody brought in. Right. Okay, so maybe it's not, I mean, kind of like to update my statement from before that he's like he's nothing more than a tool against Ted.

[00:56:53] Maybe he doesn't see that, but Nate is starting to see that he is not as important to Rupert as he eventually thought he was or that he might be or that he might have been because you're right in that moment, like he calls and he says,

[00:57:09] like, Oh, like I'm wondering if Rupert is coming because I told him about this. And she's like, no, he's not coming. And he's like, Oh, well, his any any is he in a meeting? No, no, that just means he's just pulling him off. Right.

[00:57:22] And then again later on when he sends that text message, you know, sorry about Ted being there won't happen again. Right. And we see Nate goes against instinct because his first instinct was the, no, it's okay. Like I thought it was funny.

[00:57:37] I then he deletes it and he's like, thanks. Like good thanks. Yeah. Well, you know, he is not, he's getting stronger, but he's not there yet. I think he is by the end of this episode. We'll see. No, no, he's not. He's not there yet.

[00:57:54] There's still a little bit more to come before his big moment, but it all happens next week. It all happens next episode. But I think let's kind of go back to that awkward lunch that you were talking about. Yeah, because that's all we have left.

[00:58:10] Yeah, other than that, it's just a bunch of little things. But yeah, we get Ted with Michelle and Jacob. And I did see things a little differently upon this rewatch. I remember not liking a lot of this because I felt like,

[00:58:32] and I do still kind of feel like it's a back step for Ted. Thankfully, Rebecca is there to kind of detour him and kind of put him back on track a little bit.

[00:58:44] But we like he wants Rebecca to like, he just has this negative thought in his head that Paris means engagement. And he's dead set on this so much so that he wants Rebecca to hire a private investigator

[00:58:56] to follow them in Paris, which like, okay, you are taking major steps back. Yeah. Ted, like you are. And she says, I'll do it. I mean, I'll do it. I'll do it for you. But do you really want to take this step?

[00:59:14] Well, and that brings the point too, like at the end when she texts Ted and says, you know, call me like I have news and he calls and they have that whole conversation. And she kind of talks him out of it.

[00:59:28] Do you think she had anything to begin with? Or did you think she knew she had confidence that Ted wouldn't do it? Because I don't know. That's a good question. She doesn't. There's nothing there that indicates she has anything.

[00:59:46] But she kind of just kind of talks to Ted and makes him realize the mistake it is that, you know, that he's making. And Ted decides not to do anything. I'm almost wondering if Rebecca knowing Rebecca and how great Rebecca is, did she even have anything?

[01:00:07] There's a part of me that believes Rebecca didn't even do it. Because she knew in her heart, Ted would turn around. Ted would turn around. She just needed to wait it out. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know. That's a really good question.

[01:00:26] There's no right or wrong answer to this. It's all subjective and how you look at it. I want to look at it as if Rebecca knew that Ted would come around and she never needed it. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I don't know.

[01:00:38] That's a really good question I ever thought about it that way. That's the faith that Rebecca has in Ted. Yeah, I mean, she would know him pretty well at this point. That's a great question.

[01:00:47] Gosh, if you ever get in front of a Ted Lasso person, ask that question. That's a great question. I do love that Rebecca call and this was a quote, right?

[01:01:00] So I'll just say the quote now, but when Rebecca called the Eiffel Tower a lamp post with a publicist. Man, was that good. Yeah. I realized lamp post with a publicist. This is perfect. What a perfect thing to say.

[01:01:17] But going back to that awkward conversation at the very beginning, I love the fact that you see that Ted and Michelle, they still connect. They're still chemistry. Yeah, because they think alike, they're goofy.

[01:01:39] You can tell that Michelle's goofy and maybe she just thought she needed something more serious. She needed a quote unquote adult relationship and maybe she didn't feel like Ted was adult relationship enough for her because you see that everything that Jacob is saying,

[01:01:59] she doesn't seem to enthralled with. She's more talking to Ted than anything else during this meal and it's really wonderful to see Mae step in. I love that moment because I have it. It's not in my quotes, but I love that moment with Mae when she's impossible.

[01:02:24] Nothing is impossible, Ted. Because she knows. Like Mae is that intuitive too that she knows exactly what Ted is feeling and that's her way of telling Ted have hope. 100%. 100%.

[01:02:44] I love it that Mae knew how awkward this was going to be and she rigged the pinball game for Henry. You told me that was impossible. Nothing's impossible. But I mean, what a perfect thing to do to be like Henry, you can have all the pinball you want

[01:03:03] right now because this is going to be a terrible lunch. This is going to be a little awkward. I've done this. Okay. I grew up with divorced parents. I've done the Passover. We met halfway. I lived in Orange County. Dad lived in LA.

[01:03:23] We would meet off of Carson Boulevard in where was it in Anaheim? I think it was either Anaheim or wherever Carson Boulevard was. So we'd meet there every other weekend at the residence in. Yeah, was it residence in? Who cares? It was residence in parking lot.

[01:03:49] It's all part of the Kristen tour when you left to California. Yeah. Shut up. But we met there every single time and it was always awkward and it was always terrible.

[01:04:01] We'd get in the car and my mom and dad would talk to each other for a little bit. We always knew that that was terrible and there was always arguments like, I get it. I would have loved a pinball machine. Yeah, or an arcade or something.

[01:04:16] Something to get me away from that. Because it's hardest on the kids. And you see that during the Hey Jude scene. You see how hard it is for Henry. I love that scene. Love that scene. Because one, I love the relationship that Beard and Henry have together.

[01:04:40] Like he's like the favorite uncle for Henry. He would be my favorite uncle. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Like there's, I love the moment where they're sitting in Ted's apartment and Ted's like, Okay, what do you want to do today? Like what can we do?

[01:04:54] And when Henry says, I want to go to a football game. Like there is a moment of pride in here. He's like, yes. This is like good choice. Like he just like, he immediately goes to his phone and starts looking up. You know, starts looking up a game.

[01:05:13] Yeah, 100%. But yeah, like I adore this scene so much. And I love the fact that he says, you know, it seems like you're in a sad song. And as cliche and heavy-handed as it was because Hey Jude's playing in the background and blah,

[01:05:31] blah, blah, he's still, and that story has to be made up about why. Is that real? That is a real story. That's the real story behind that song. That is the real story behind that song.

[01:05:45] So I, Hey Jude holds a very special place to me because and I'll tell you why in a second, but I know a lot about Hey Jude because I, that is one of my all-time favorite Beatles songs. So I know the background of that song.

[01:06:00] So for anybody that doesn't know, do you know who Hey Jude was written for? Jude? No. So Jude is short, Jude is short for Jules who was John Lennon's son, Julian. So Jude is short for Julian.

[01:06:22] Paul McCartney wrote Hey Jude to comfort Julian because it was during a time when John Lennon had left his then girlfriend, Julian's mother for Yoko Ono. So the story that Beard tells about how this song was written for a kid named Jude,

[01:06:43] Jude because his mom and dad were breaking up and he wanted to give him hope that things would get better is 100% real. I love that then. I love that. I don't know a lot about the Beatles.

[01:06:57] So quick personal story as to why this song is as meaningful to me as it is. All through middle school and high school, one of my favorite teachers was my music teacher. I loved my music teacher to death.

[01:07:09] I think I've mentioned this before so much that like I'm actually friends with her like on Facebook. We still keep in touch after all these years. And I was a horn player in high school as a trumpet player all through like concert band and jazz band.

[01:07:25] And I kept saying jokingly that I would love my music teacher was also a horn player and I would jokingly say I want to do it with my music teacher just because I think it would be fun. So fast forward to my sophomore year of high school.

[01:07:45] I'm it's my last year in that school because I'm getting ready to move because I was moving from New Jersey into Pennsylvania. So my jazz band concert in my fall jazz or my spring jazz band concert.

[01:07:57] We did two concerts every year fall and spring concert band performed first then jazz band jazz band always closed out the concerts because jazz band was better. Both music standpoint and performance standpoint. I love it that you were a band geek and I was a theater geek.

[01:08:14] I was a theater geek in high school too. So I did both but my sophomore year of high school. So solos were held for seniors because that was their way of getting their moment to shine before they graduated freshman sophomore very rarely juniors never got solos.

[01:08:38] But it was known to my music teacher that I was leaving. So the last song of the night was Hey Jude. And my music teacher said you're soloing during Hey Jude. I was like really.

[01:08:54] She said yes the opening is a solo you are opening with I was the only person playing. It was just me to bring in the song. So of course I was a little nervous but I still did it.

[01:09:10] And so I did the solo band came in and I felt a little more comforted and then we played through Hey Jude and then at the end when it's doing the

[01:09:18] Na Na Na Na part I'm like I'm playing I'm first horn I'm getting into it getting into it getting into it and then my band director picks up her horn comes up stands next to me and just starts playing along. So not only did I get a solo.

[01:09:40] I'm getting a little choked up talking about it. My band director gave me what I always wanted and let me and let me leave on a duet with her before I moved to Pennsylvania. And it was during Hey Jude. I love teachers like that.

[01:09:57] I love teachers like that. Now you see why I love that teacher. Yeah. Oh 100 percent. That's so cool. Good for her. So shout out to shout out to Adrienne Mazar if she's I doubt she's listening but you never know.

[01:10:13] I love the fact that I'm still in contact with her and like that that's a core memory. Teachers are so important. Can you please pay us more America. Yeah please. And I'll wrap up the whole Hey Jude conversation and saying this and

[01:10:28] people can agree with me or disagree with me whether they'll like it or not. I feel like every child should at least be introduced to Beatles music. Because the Beatles are so influential in so many genres of music. Jimi Hendrix was a huge Beatles fan.

[01:10:51] Dave Matthews has said he would not be the performer he is today if not for the Beatles. Like there are I've heard like hard rock bands and rappers say the Beatles influenced them. Whether you like their music or not and whether your kids might like their music

[01:11:08] or not I feel like they should at least be introduced to the Beatles. And that is something that my husband was very adamant about he the Beatles and the Beach Boys

[01:11:21] is you know always played in our house and we listen to or we have the Sirius XM Beatles channel on our presets. I play it quite often. Yeah so Dave's been really good about that.

[01:11:36] I was never I never was a Beatles fan but I see their influence and I do like their music but the Beatles just were never I was always Janice Joplin and Jimi Hendrix and the doors and the who.

[01:11:52] But I definitely see the influence of the Beatles and I enjoy their music but not some people just like really love the Beatles. Oh I could I mean I could listen to the Beatles all day and be like and be

[01:12:14] fully happy if that's all I listen to is the Beatles. Yeah they're not it's not bad music. Well I mean I know people who are like oh I hate the Beatles like I don't get what people say and I'm like what are you crazy?

[01:12:25] I think the Beatles are the first boy band. I agree with that. I look at them on Ed Sullivan like that's what it was. I mean and the Beatles they experimented with different things. Well Sergeant Peppers you look at Sergeant Peppers and oh my gosh you know.

[01:12:43] For the benefit of Mr. Kite is such a different song than anything they had done before and it's but it's great in itself like it's so I mean if there's anybody out

[01:12:53] there who again who's not a Beatles fan you have the right to like and not like what you want but they're so influential that I feel like you should at least introduce. People should at least be introduced if you're introduced to them and it's not your thing.

[01:13:07] Hey it's not your thing you know is what it is. Yeah I've had people introduce me to Seinfeld and I hate it but you know like I just feel like because of their influence you know and using Hey Jude as an example like

[01:13:24] and I love the fact that that is a it's a true story. Yeah. Like it's just it's really it's that's the real reason why that song was written. Yeah. Was for was for Julian Lennon. You know what I love that and I wish I had known that story.

[01:13:38] I didn't have time to do a deep dive on anything. I watched this episode right before we recorded and usually my Sunday mornings are for doing my deep dive so I'm so glad that you knew

[01:13:48] that information because that just of course of course there was a reason for that. Everything they do in the show the books that they read the songs that they listen to the clothes that they wear it's all has a purpose and I just love the fact that

[01:14:04] this show is so thoughtfully made. Yeah yeah but that kind of leads us to Michelle and Jacob returning. Yeah it was. From Paris. I think I have my own thoughts you know my thoughts.

[01:14:21] So and I think they're the same I think they're I think your thoughts now are what my thoughts were at the time because my thoughts on this I think he proposed and she said no. Yep. Yep. That's exactly what I think. Yep.

[01:14:36] Because there is a big disconnect between the two of them when they get back. When she gives him Henry's backpack she doesn't even touch him. Nope. She has her hands on the top of the backpack and he grabs it by the sides

[01:14:50] and they like say something and then she just gets into the car and when she gets into the car first of all she looks back. She's never looked back before. She looks back at 10. And she lingers right? Yep.

[01:15:02] And he's like oh sorry you know it was just so cute. He's like oh you saw me I'm staring but then when she gets into the car so

[01:15:11] as as a mom right if my kids are in between me and Dave and we're in the car I've got my hand around everybody you know usually Dave's got his arm up as well and our arms are like kind

[01:15:25] of touching each other and we've got our kids in between us right especially when you are just reuniting right you're just so excited to see to be a family again you know Yeah.

[01:15:35] Her arm goes right around Henry only I don't know if you saw that but I paid special attention and her arm goes right around his arm and she kind of pulls him in to her so there's obviously a disconnect and I'm so happy.

[01:15:52] Yeah because and again like I feel like because they're when they're when they first show up and they have that conversation we said there is still chemistry between Ted and Michelle and I think it took this pair because here's the thing to any new relationships going away

[01:16:09] together for the first time is a huge test of that relationship. Going on a vacation together is even if it's just for a weekend is a huge test of that relationship and Michelle and Jacob failed that test. No big time.

[01:16:25] And I and I think Michelle is starting to realize she still has feelings for Ted. She can't tell Ted this yet because I think she still needs to realize this fully on her own

[01:16:42] but yeah because like you said like and I love the fact that he puts out the fist the fist bump Henry and Henry runs right past it. That was so awesome. You know what I think Henry saw that his dad was sad.

[01:17:01] Henry's being raised by Ted Lasso which means that he's being raised with feelings. He is not being raised as a stereotypical American midwestern male how's that? Yeah. And he sees his dad off on a bench by himself during a very sad song

[01:17:24] and Beard talks to him and kind of gets into his head and makes him realize that it's okay to be sad about what has happened to his family and it's okay to know that your dad is sad

[01:17:35] about what's happened to his family Ted's family right and I think that this was a very eye-opening trip for everybody. I mean Henry's getting older. Henry's probably going into middle school at this point okay these are big feelings in little people

[01:17:54] and he sees that his dad is sad. He sees that things are changing between his mom and this new friend. Henry wants his family back together period and because he loves his dad he worships his dad. Why do you like the Beatles? Because my dad likes the Beatles.

[01:18:12] Obviously. Right? I beyond like that look I get that sentiment completely like my dad as much of a dick as he is and I don't speak to him anymore he's the reason why I listen to country music. My dad's the reason why I like music. Yeah.

[01:18:28] Yeah my dad used to listen to country and like heart and you know like and share and like a bunch of other like 80s bands and stuff like that.

[01:18:39] I have a lot of memories when I hear music like that of listening of being in the car with my dad listening to that music right you know. I remember popping in my dad's cassette tape of heart you know while being in the car.

[01:18:53] So when Henry says like I like the Beatles because my dad likes the Beatles I get it. Yeah 100% I get that. That's the blues with me. My dad raised me on the blues. I love the blues you know I don't talk to dad anymore but that's okay.

[01:19:06] Because I have this wonderful deep love for music that I probably wouldn't have even given a chance. So you know we get what we can from our parents. In this case though the Beatles is used as a wake up call for Ted and Henry.

[01:19:23] And I think that I think that hey Jude is we are in a sad song we are in the lasso sad song and from here on out they're gonna make it better. And well what's and I think that's wonderful.

[01:19:38] I wouldn't look at what Beard says because what Beard says is wonderful I agree. Yeah he says Oh he says you have a great mom and dad and they love you tons even though it's

[01:19:55] weird they live in different countries and I know right now it feels like you're in a sad song but you young man you have the power to take a sad song and make it better. And Henry's like oh I like that and Beard's like yeah me too.

[01:20:09] Beards amazing. I love Beards so much like it's just I think that's one of the reasons why when we finally get Beards backstory like it's as meaningful as it is. Can't wait yep.

[01:20:23] But yeah but what I was saying earlier I'm sorry I feel like I'm all over the place this morning. Um there is a definite shift in Henry after this trip and it is shown through him getting in the car. He has no more time for this man. Yeah.

[01:20:43] He's just like nope I don't need you I got my dad and my dad is so much better than you. Not only that but he sees this man now for the being the reason why his dad is sad. Yes yes. Like he sees that now.

[01:20:58] Ted makes a huge mistake on this trip. Huge mistake. Which is. I was so oh so I am a divorced kid okay I come from divorced childhood, divorced adolescence like my life was divorced kid okay and Ted fishing for information from Henry

[01:21:22] like immediately brought me back to times where that happened with my own parents and that was it's just I think Henry was pretending to sleep. I can see that I don't I don't know if that's the case at all I think Henry did have a long

[01:21:42] day with going to the football game and everything but I I could see I can also see it that way that Henry was pretending to sleep. Henry did want to have that conversation with his dad

[01:21:51] and I think Henry is a lot wiser than we give him credit for because he's had to grow up pretty fast because of what has happened to his family.

[01:21:59] Well look at what he says to Ted like do you know do you realize I have more airline miles than anybody else in my class that is his way of telling Ted like like do you know what I go through?

[01:22:11] Yeah yes do you know what I go through that's perfect. Yeah and you know when adults make a mess of their lives they often forget that it is going to affect the little ones the most and you know the 80s were a time of divorce you know

[01:22:33] everybody everybody had divorced parents in the 80s I knew almost nobody that had parents that were still together. It's yeah I mean look I still use it doesn't exist anymore and it hasn't existed for years but I still

[01:22:48] anytime I say it to anybody else who was one they understand what I tell people when I say I was a latchkey kid. A latchkey kid that was me too. Yep latchkey. You know that was the 80s though right that was just 80s and early 90s.

[01:23:02] Yeah yeah yeah yeah but that I mean that that was the time it's crazy to think about now because we are the adults we are the parents in this in this time period and we don't want our kids

[01:23:15] to go through what we went through right so you see Ted and we know that Ted has a complicated childhood as well from his parents so you see that he is now inflicting harm on his kid the

[01:23:29] way that I think his dad inflicted harm on him not in the same way but there is harm happening to Henry and it is being inflicted by Henry's parents and that is what is killing Ted.

[01:23:42] Well and I also think too to kind of go on your point about how like that was the early that was the 80s and early 90s you know thing to happen and I still think like divorce

[01:23:54] rates haven't gone down divorce rates are still very very high but we live in a time now where that's easier to connect co-parenting with each other with with co-parenting with you know social media FaceTime things like that it's easier to co-parent now than it was back then

[01:24:10] so I don't want to like make people think like oh like people still aren't getting divorced anymore oh no that still happens constantly but it's easier now to co-parent. It does but I'll tell you that

[01:24:21] every single one of my friends I'd say because obviously that I've got about 90 percent still married still married oh I yeah I have a very large majority of friends who are I mean

[01:24:37] don't get me wrong I know a few divorced couples right I'd say a good 90 percent are still married and I think that that stems from being latchkey kids in the 80s because we went through it exactly

[01:24:50] we went through it we saw what it did and we know we don't want to put our own kids through right we all have unhealed trauma we all carry briefcases or suitcases full of baggage big fat

[01:25:04] suitcases yep yep like we don't have enough hands to carry the baggage that we carry I definitely don't feel like I don't know if my car I don't even I don't even know if my car would fit the baggage

[01:25:15] that I have no but that's why we have friends exactly our friend but I say that constantly my friends are more of my family than my own family well I have a pretty good family but I also have a

[01:25:26] really great network of friends so yeah yeah shared trauma yep um the I will say one more thing about Jacob um and if there if I knew nothing else about Jacob there is one thing that happens in

[01:25:44] this episode that tells me everything I need to know and why I should not like this man and it is the fact that when he returns and he gets the couple to take the picture of him

[01:25:54] they are holding it horizontally and he says no no hold it vertically fuck you Jacob it's horizontal every time yep vertical is for tiktok you want to be younger shithead sorry well is that if I knew anything else about him to make me dislike him it's

[01:26:16] the fact that he corrected that old couple about holding the phone to hold it horizontally and that horizontally how about that well you know what that could say also that horizontally means it's a

[01:26:29] wider scope of the fact that he's taking this picture alone okay that's a good point you know that's a good point the horizontal is more and there could be people out there listening

[01:26:42] to this being like no it's vertically except at you young like the old curmudgeon accept the new world grandpa accept the world for what it's becoming I had so it's so weird that I'm saying all this

[01:27:00] too because I just had a conversation last night with one of the program directors for altered reality which is the company that runs all these shows that I'm doing and we were talking

[01:27:08] about different ideas about how we're going to capture like clips of panels and stuff like that and how we said like because we need to put more like we put stuff on Facebook but we don't put

[01:27:20] enough on Instagram and tiktok as I'm saying like no you hold the phone because when we do clips for like tiktok obviously I have to do everything vertically oh my gosh I hate tiktok I do too

[01:27:32] but you got to do it like it's part of the new new social media I don't have to do all the young kids are now you know what and that's why I go to tiktok to see what they're saying

[01:27:43] so that when I go to work I am not saying huh what yeah I have a tiktok account and I have people I have people that follow me on tiktok never posted one video no never will I never will

[01:27:57] never never I might eventually I do rockstar he does voiceovers for dogs and the o's are x's but his name is rockstar I'm only laughing because I follow one of those accounts too

[01:28:15] but he does it for all animals it's not just dogs oh no this one does it for dogs have you ever listened to this guy he's the best no I'm gonna have to look oh you have to he's so funny

[01:28:25] he's so funny anything I have a couple little things uh Trent crim has been barked in to the diamond dogs he is a diamond dog and I thought that Roy

[01:28:39] has was a diamond dog did I miss it he has gone to the diamond dogs but he does not become a full-fledged diamond dog until it's either the pen ultimate or the finale boom I think it's

[01:28:55] the finale because he goes do you want to talk about it he says yes and then they get diamond dogs and Roy's like I'm out and it's like but you're the one that said do you want to talk about

[01:29:03] a dick but I will say I feel like Roy is a diamond dog he just hasn't accepted it yet because he is listening to the conversation yeah because he does chime in yeah so he is listening

[01:29:23] he is interested he's just not willing to admit yet that he is a diamond he'll get there but one of my favorite parts about that whole scene other than the fact that Trent is now a diamond dog

[01:29:37] is the fact that beard barks into the phone within like five seconds we just see Higgins hauling ass through the locker room because that was the diamond dog because I had to row downstairs

[01:29:55] and then upstairs my legs are gonna crap tonight yeah oh my like I just seeing in the background Higgins hauling ass through the locker room was hysterical but I don't see why they would be

[01:30:11] upset about this because I would be very worried as well but see and that's the other thing is that Ted didn't give the full context here that is her favorite place in the world she's never been

[01:30:25] but she's done all the research she has the one thing that that Michelle has always wanted to do is go to Paris well and I think that's what I think that's what Rebecca helps him to realize

[01:30:38] is because we get the full context in that conversation with him and Rebecca where we realize the bigger issue here is probably not the fact that she's getting engaged it's the fact

[01:30:49] that Jacob is the one taking her to a place he knows she has always wanted to go and he has always wanted to take her right right but he never had the opportunity right he's coming in to do

[01:31:02] something he never could right exactly but it's weird that he didn't give any of that context yeah to the diamond dogs when I think normally he would have so it was just awkward that's all yeah

[01:31:17] because they're mad at him and I'm like this is not this is the kind of dumb shit you guys have always talked about like why all of a sudden are you mad now I don't think they're mad I just

[01:31:27] think they're disappointed I think Higgins was mad he had to go up a flight of stairs oh well that would make me mad too that that would make me mad too um I love the little moment with with

[01:31:39] Will training Henry to be a kid man I have that in my quotes I'm gonna save it we'll get the quotes um and then the only other thing that I have as far as little notes go is Jamie's links variety

[01:31:54] um when when Colin asks Jamie if he can borrow links and he's like what um what flavor of pitch do you want and it's uh this is ax body spray right what's it's it's ax body spray it's what

[01:32:11] they call it links but okay um what's your pit flavor I've got epic fresh sport recharge java africa ice chill gold excite black dark temptation and leather and cookies leather and cookies not gonna lie that's probably the one I would have chosen to leather and cookies no

[01:32:29] you know what I would have loved to or ice chill I would like to know what Africa smells like is it like sandalwood cocoa butter you know what I'm saying like what is it I I know that that's

[01:32:42] probably like a nice warm really spicy kind of scent yeah that's the kind of stuff that me as a woman loves um any other little things before we dive into spoiler stuff nope yeah I think that's

[01:33:00] the only other thing we didn't mention is oh I will say Mae's reaction to finding out that they went to a west ham game was just another reason why I love Mae so much well and then Beard's like

[01:33:11] what do you think I fucking wanted to go like he's like look at me I'm dressed in all Richmond gear give me my beer I just but I love the fact that she was willing to refuse service to a boy

[01:33:25] a glass of milk a pint of milk yeah because he went to a west ham game right well and I love it that it's like Mae should have I hope Mae saw the papers and like cut it out and framed it

[01:33:39] because Beard is standing stoic in all Richmond gear and to me like if I were Mae I'd be like yes that is my coach yes with a big red X over Ted because it's yeah Beard um yeah that's all I have too

[01:34:00] so then I guess I don't know how much time we're going to spend in it because I don't really have anything um but uh let's dive into spoiler territory so if you want to avoid it just check

[01:34:09] the show notes to find out um when to come back in uh I'm going to turn it over to you because like I said I really don't have much this is the only thing I wanted to say is that this is the beginning

[01:34:20] of Ted coming home right here this is like I know that we've said this a lot but this is Ted really sees that heat that this is affecting Henry I think yeah I think Beard is starting to see

[01:34:32] that this is affecting Henry so it's going to make it easier for Beard to say it's okay for Ted to go because Beard has found his home in in London he has found where he's probably going to spend the

[01:34:44] rest of his career the rest of his life like Beard has found his place in the world yeah he's with people that embrace his weirdness yes yes and love him for it you know yeah um so this is the

[01:35:00] beginning of Beard standing on his own without Ted of Ted realizing that he needs to go home of Henry realizing that Dr. Jacob is probably more of a villain in his life than just mom's friend

[01:35:18] and it's the beginning of Michelle realizing that she still loves Ted and they're they're back together at the end of this series I believe yeah and I know that that you know everybody has their own

[01:35:32] opinion about it but if you don't see the chemistry that these two still have for each other in this scene and then what follows afterwards you know with their phone conversations and their FaceTime videos

[01:35:44] and the way and that final game um you know then then you're not a romantic like I am I guess I've no and I see it too and like I've even made mention of this before too and I can

[01:35:56] we can talk about it now that we're in spoilers is the fact that you know when you talk about that final game where Michelle and Henry are at home watching with Jacob every time they cut to Michelle

[01:36:07] and Jacob or Michelle and Henry Jacob is further and further away like that is so symbolic of that okay this is the final nail these people are drifting apart these people have been drifting apart

[01:36:20] we're physically seeing it now right and he's on his phone laughing about something and texting like he's just in the background just staring at his phone could not care less yeah more concerned

[01:36:30] less concerned with where he is you know so I just think that that's great and um anyways that's the only thing I wanted to say uh and the only other thing I'll make mention of too is and

[01:36:44] we'll talk a little bit about it more next episode is this stuff with Colin and McAdoo coming up next episode is like they are a big focus I think they are the central focus of

[01:36:56] next episode um because seeing I mean there is some more stuff with Nate because we're going to see Nate we're going to see what makes Nate finally decide to leave West Ham next week doesn't he

[01:37:08] it's so because he has to work at taste of Athens then he becomes kit man he doesn't officially leave West Ham until the beginning of episode 10 that's when we see the announcement

[01:37:22] that he has left okay but he leaves at the end of next week but we don't see it we don't see it happen right right right okay we don't see it happen do we ever see it happen no it's basically

[01:37:34] we see all the events that lead to him leaving and then the next episode it's on the news that he has parted ways with West Ham right I can't wait so we don't actually see him leave but he has

[01:37:45] he does it's short shorts become the coach uh no that's who Rupert bring yes yeah that's who Rupert brings in to coach the team afterwards right right right short shorts um so yeah like

[01:38:01] so we're gonna see some huge stuff for Nate happen next episode and the Colin and Isaac stuff next episode I love it yeah it's so it's so powerful for the their friendship especially

[01:38:13] since you know that Isaac is mad that Colin didn't trust their friendship Isaac is not mad that Colin's gay he's he's mad that Colin didn't couldn't confide in him right and I can't wait to watch

[01:38:26] this episode again with that in mind because even watching his reaction to seeing Colin's phone and walking away this episode I knew that he wasn't mad at Colin for being gay and I thought the

[01:38:40] first time I watched it I did think that he was mad at Colin for being gay and so it made me see Mac adieu differently which I really love because you know we love Mac adieu at this point we don't

[01:38:51] want him we don't want him to to not be who we think he is we don't want him to take a step backwards like we said Ted did this episode correct correct um and I will tell you without going

[01:39:03] into too much detail one of my favorite moments from next week no we're still in spoilers I know but I don't I want to save the actual conversation for when we rewatch the episode is um one of my favorite moments for next week's episode is Roy's press conference

[01:39:21] following the events that happened during the game I forgot about that I'm so excited when because I almost spit out my water just now I was so excited I saw because Rebecca's a little upset

[01:39:35] that Ted leaves the press conference to Roy but what Roy says during that press conference is fucking powerful it needed to come from Roy this is where you see that Ted knows exactly

[01:39:48] where everybody needs to be he knows his team he knows his staff you need to let Ted be Ted it's powerful from Roy because of how vulnerable Roy is in that moment admitting what he admits

[01:40:04] it is huge and it's one of my favorite moments from next week's episode well next episode because it's in four weeks so I keep saying next week it's not it's in a couple weeks when we return but I'm gonna probably in the next couple of weeks oh I'm

[01:40:19] gonna be watching the whole end and then watch it again I actually was playing on the same thing I'm gonna watch these next four episodes and then watch them again before we record on them well

[01:40:29] we've been wait well at home we've been trying to like catch up with our other TV we just finally caught up on criminal minds oh it's so good I've been I've been getting caught up on a bunch

[01:40:39] of stuff too like I finally dove into sweet tooth season three um I've been watching more cheers because I'm on my first view of cheers I've never watched cheers before I watched cheers when

[01:40:51] it was on because it was like my parents favorite show but I couldn't really tell you any specifics about it and I love it I love it yeah um anyway um all done with spoilers okay then we will welcome

[01:41:06] everybody back into the conversation let's go into some of our favorite quotes I don't have a lot I think I only have one maybe two well I said the Eiffel Tower one

[01:41:17] the one with Henry and Henry training or Henry being trained by Will uh is this a game or child labor in in late stage capitalism what's the difference that's true um and beard just like word

[01:41:30] and word I uh I love in the diamond dogs um in the diamond dog scene when uh who is it Trent says you can't worry about something that hasn't happened yet and then Higgin says

[01:41:43] you've got to find out before you flip out and I think that that should be on t-shirts yeah there's a lot of stuff from this show that should be on t-shirts Isaac saying

[01:41:54] delete that shit over and over delete that shit um this is the only other one I have and it just made me laugh so much the conversation with Rebecca and Keeley uh you know there might

[01:42:09] be a silver lining in all this just think of how many young women you are going to teach how to masturbate properly I did love what I'm serious back in the day I didn't have a clue what I was doing

[01:42:19] and then one day I accidentally bumped into my parents couch and it felt nice so I stuck with it a year later my mom had to reimpolster every or my mom had to have everything reimpolstered

[01:42:31] I blamed it on the dog well that was smart yeah we didn't have a dog and Keeley just like she's just like oh I love you and just gives Rebecca this huge hug that is empowering and uplifting and it's just everything that you need in a best friend

[01:42:50] you know everything you need um I do like it when Keeley looks at jamie and goes your password was a password was it and he goes well I thought it was good because I used two s's I thought I tricked them in using two s's

[01:43:08] that one I that one made me think for a minute because when he said that I was like wait a minute password oh he always thought it was one oh that was so funny so funny I loved that scene

[01:43:26] that's all I really have for quotes yeah that's it but you know I'm sure we missed a million because there's so many that are good but yeah those are the ones that I wrote down

[01:43:35] yeah yeah me too um so then that brings us then into feedback for the episode uh in which we have a couple voicemails and for some reason one of them did not pop up so I will have that

[01:43:48] uploading as we are talking about it there it is um so our first one comes from Jason from San Jose hi ben and christin this is Jason in San Jose leaving feedback for we'll never have Paris

[01:44:03] well this was a triggering episode for me but I still enjoyed it more on that in a bit although it was a sad episode for Ted I'm really glad that there was a breakthrough there at the

[01:44:14] end so coach Beards description of the diamond dogs really reminds me a lot of my 12 step program as a group of men supporting each other through their most intimate thoughts and experiences I can

[01:44:27] definitely relate with that and I was so happy to see that Trent is officially part of the diamond dogs love the great advice with him and Higgins find out before you flip out then they're on

[01:44:40] the other side with Nate hearing the horrible misogynistic advice from the lovehounds left a bit of longing for a real connection that Nate has been missing in his life and Jade seems to be

[01:44:53] helping out there so the whole thing with the leek nudes was quite triggering for me but I loved the way the show dealt with it was really humanizing to see it from Keely's perspective and I loved how

[01:45:08] she didn't back down or apologize additionally I loved the spin on the locker room talk as they were forced to delete photos the sex positivity on the show is absolutely amazing and I forgot to

[01:45:21] mention the lack of kink shaming in the previous episode with coach beard bringing up that he and Jane were exploring pegging and if you don't know what that is use your discretion while looking that up and whoa now Colin's secret is out with macadoo I'm really looking forward

[01:45:41] to how that is going to resolve and yeah we all need a person like Rebecca in our lives damn seeing her snapped head out of his worrying and actually living life in the present was amazing

[01:45:57] and I'm looking forward to her in the next episode as well as the continuing rift between Colin and Isaac well until then this has been Jason in San Jose saying that was such a great way to wrap up that feedback you're muted that was wonderful I agree yeah

[01:46:34] it's such a great way and you know what Jason you brought up a good point too that you know we haven't really touched on but it's I think it's very apparent is that this show is very sex positive

[01:46:42] it like it doesn't there's no shame in anything about that and you're absolutely right use discretion when googling pegging if you don't know what it is but knowing that beard talks about it

[01:46:59] should already give you a good idea as to what it entails uh that leads us to our next piece of feedback and this one comes from our friend Alex and this is actually for last week's episode

[01:47:10] and this week's episode as I mentioned he was probably going to do this week so let's play that now hey all Alex Kruger here leaving feedback for Ted Lasso episodes The Strings That Bind Us

[01:47:20] and We'll Never Have Paris many apologies for my absence last week but you guys did a fantastic job with The Strings That Bind Us I only really have one thought to add to this

[01:47:27] episode I remember when the show was first on the air and we learned very early on the Sam not only is Nigerian but has a really powerful and philosophical father although the casting was

[01:47:37] great for Ola Obesanya leading up to this episode I held out hope so hard when I first watched that Sam's father would be played by none other than Mr. Echo from Lost again final casting was great

[01:47:50] but I always secretly hope to see him in that role but alas on two we'll never have Paris first I'm gonna start off with Michelle Michelle seems really charmed by Ted and that

[01:48:00] first scene with him where they're dropping off Henry and not only that but she seems to be connecting with him much more than before and on the same wavelength in the way we haven't seen yet I can't

[01:48:09] remember if we ever find out but if we don't do you think Dr. Ding is proposed to Michelle and she said no or was it truly just a trip to Paris big love for Nate and Jade in this episode

[01:48:22] first off I remembered while rewatching season two with you that Jade was going to pay off and it's crazy how much of a personality upgrade she has given so quickly she's always been strong

[01:48:31] and no nonsense but she really seems to be strong and no nonsense in a way that is good for and complimentary to Nate I love these still neurotic enough to have already brushed and gotten ready

[01:48:40] ish and yet she has no problem with establishing any embarrassing boundaries with him to the extent that Nate freaking Shelley doesn't mind telling her that her breath sucks sticking with Nate for

[01:48:51] two seconds in what world is Rupert a candidate to join his version of the Diamond Dogs I am surprised at how delusional he still is about what his relationship with Rupert is and that he

[01:49:01] doesn't see it quite yet now as a person who always enjoys taking his kids to work a it's true that people in the workplace really do appreciate when little ones are around to help break up the

[01:49:11] monotony and be there is a fine yet fuzzy line between playing a game and facilitating child labor but I really appreciated Ted threading the needle when Henry with Henry on trying to get more

[01:49:22] information about Dr. Dork while not inappropriately pried it's tough as a parent when there is another guardian present in your child's life and you aren't around you want to know what's going on but

[01:49:34] you also want to respect brown boundaries and trust that the other people that you do know in this situation have it covered but again it's tough and honestly there's a whole subgenre of lifetime movies that prove why you need to be extra vigilant vigilant and cautious in these

[01:49:49] situations. Super quick side note find out before you flip out is a really underappreciated line like holy shit it should be everyone who suffers from paranoia's safety mantra it makes me think of

[01:50:01] inside out too and how perfectly personifies a panic attack and how find out before you flip out is such good advice to share with your anxiety emotion. Macadoon Colin buckle up folks but my last point is this the locker room moment where they found out about the leaks

[01:50:18] has really hit you over the head in its message and leaves out a lot of subtlety it really just comes right out and says what it is but I don't criticize it because so many people

[01:50:30] and especially men don't understand the gravity and the importance of these moments until it hits close to home once we can relate to someone we care about it's a lot harder to brush off

[01:50:41] and brush aside but that's it for me this week damn it's good to be back keep up the great work and as always jack really is the freaking worst yes he is hurt she is jack just suck

[01:50:59] um man I wish I never knew that I was I was just gonna say I did not picture out of a while I paying that part but now that would have been great I wish I never

[01:51:11] knew that information because that would have been so perfect and now I don't want to take away from the actor that played him but man out of all I play in that part would have been amazing

[01:51:23] oh it would have been so perfect it would have been so perfect I think he's also Nigerian I think he is yeah man that would have been that would have been great oh man oh that would

[01:51:37] have warmed our hearts you know I just like the fact that Alex called him Dr. Dengas well he is and then Dr. Dork is he's both of those things hate him that leads us then to our final piece

[01:51:52] of feedback and that comes of course from our friend Steve Brown hello Ben and Kristen this is Steve and this is for Ted Lasso we'll never have Paris okay so they're in a foreign row

[01:52:05] winning streak but Ted's not happy because here he is meeting with Dr. Jake and his ex-wife this is such an awkward conversation that just call me Jake no this is just wrong the call back to the big old piece of breakfast great romantic weekend surprise in Paris that's

[01:52:22] yeah I guess that's a definitely a marriage proposal but it's way too soon have they can't have been together for very long and whatever Kaylee just said in that high pitched voice in very fast even the close captioning I didn't catch it who is Uncle Bernie

[01:52:34] hey I'm not even gonna comment on the whole morning ritual between Nate and Jade this time Roy's leaving the room before the diving dogs get started now Trent's in and he gives a little bit lightheaded but Roy can hear and they're just going to

[01:52:48] Paris you don't know yet no they are and Nate trying to create the same environment that Ted has in his coaching staff is not not going to happen love hounds really Kaylee Kaylee please do not post this just ridiculously vapid apology response to the video wow that uh

[01:53:09] Kaylee's video getting leaked really effective Roy and now what's going with Colin and so that I'm assuming there's something on his phone that shows his sexuality they're taking Henry to one of Nate's games but I love that beard is wearing his his kit from his team Richmond

[01:53:25] kid love May's response you don't drink in this pub but okay you two are on probation and Henry's a kid good advice Rebecca don't let yesterday get in the way today or the past get in the way

[01:53:36] of today whatever she said oh so the the apology is not about Kaylee it's about you Jack and your firm so Jamie I thought I fooled him because I spelled it with two s's his password was password

[01:53:49] okay I know it's a tourist cliche Dr. Jacob taking his picture outside of a red London call box my sister-in-law does the same thing oh nothing on her left hand Michelle I mean all right can't wait to hear you talk about spoilers because I don't remember what happens

[01:54:05] um the whole taking a picture in front of a phone a red phone box look I'm not gonna lie I'm gonna do the same damn thing when I get to go to the UK yeah when we take our Ted Lasso trip

[01:54:15] I want to go to Richmond so bad let's do it I really want to go because it is a real place I mean it's not fake at all um I really want to go I really really want to go um but yeah so you know

[01:54:32] you know one of the lines that we didn't bring up uh Doran favorite quotes and Steve made me remember is when during that conversation with Rebecca and Ted when she says that time in your relationship

[01:54:44] with her has passed but your time with Henry hasn't you need to stop letting yesterday get in the way of today Ted and he turns around and says well I don't think he's singing yesterday

[01:54:55] because everybody's singing a tune and she's like Ted he's like he's like I know I'm just joking he needs to do that though because he can't he's he's still Ted he can't that's his release serious

[01:55:08] that long that's his release exactly is is to do that I do the same thing Rebecca now knows that about him like they have a very good relationship because they know each other so well now whereas

[01:55:19] this same conversation happening in the first season she would have been put off by his Midwestern idiosyncrasies and he would have still been trying to you know tap into that rough exterior with the

[01:55:32] cookies that she was eating and I love the fact that he says Mercy Buckets boss because that's his go-to yeah instead of Mercy Boku it's it's Mercy Buckets and she replies Doran which is

[01:55:50] of course mm-hmm you know she replies in French because she knows that's what he means right that's Ted's way of saying thank you I love Ted and Rebecca great great friendship epic friendship

[01:56:05] it's so great I love it and it's hard to believe that this comes from a character who like you actually kind of dislike in the first season kind of okay you dislike

[01:56:16] in the first season come on uh but that's going to wrap it up for feedback for this episode as always we encourage you guys to leave feedback easiest way to do that visit our website revisited pod.com or you can email us directly feedback at revisited pod.com

[01:56:35] uh any I have two recommendations this week I have one so I watched American fiction this past week what's such a great movie it was wonderful it was wonderful it surprised me it

[01:56:51] made me laugh it made me cry Sterling K Brown plays is the most different character he's ever played um yeah it was Jeffrey Wright is fantastic fantastic in this movie so yeah I um I really

[01:57:07] enjoyed it so I just wanted to throw that out if you haven't seen it I know it kind of went under the radar during award season oh it got nominated for a lot I don't know I know that it's

[01:57:17] just that a lot of people just didn't watch it because it was it came out like during award season I think but yeah if you haven't seen it go see it it's great it's great I said when we

[01:57:28] were doing the Oscar coverage this past year you know for that Oscar season I had said that like I'm predicting Oppenheimer is gonna like sweep everything but if there was a dark course

[01:57:38] in the best picture category I hoped it would be American fiction yeah because I have how great that movie was so my two recommendations are this so first I started watching a fight I've talked about

[01:57:52] it um but I finally started watching The Bear on FX holy shit is that an intense show it's so good are you watching it oh we've yeah we're all oh you're caught up so I'm four episodes into the first

[01:58:07] season um it is intense but it is so good yeah it's so good but you can't watch it for us we couldn't watch it as a binge um well I think that's why I've kind of taken a couple days break before

[01:58:22] watching more yeah um and I've had a number of friends tell me like if you think season one is intense just wait till season two the best episode in the entire series is an episode called forks

[01:58:37] and that's all I'm going to say okay and that's in season two or season one season two okay the best episode of the series is an episode called forks okay so when you get to forks just know

[01:58:51] that is the best episode of the series okay and I don't see a lot of people disagreeing with me on that one but it is like I remember just watching the first episode and because my mom was here with me

[01:59:02] watching she's watched the series already yeah but there was nothing else on television she's like well why don't you start something you haven't seen before that you've been meaning to and I'm

[01:59:10] like well like I know you've watched The Bear and I have it I mean do you mind and she's like no I'll watch it again and just I remember watching the first episode I was like holy

[01:59:18] shit that was intense so good but I mean I don't know I worked in a restaurant for 15 years I was a hostess I was a hostess I was expo I was a server I was bartender I've worked I

[01:59:32] worked in the kitchen I've worked in prep I've worked dishwasher I've worked every single job in a kitchen The Bear nails it that's what I've heard from a number of people I have experience

[01:59:44] with people in the restaurant industry because I have a lot of friends who have done it and I have like DJ'd in restaurants and stuff so I've seen it first and never experienced it

[01:59:52] but I've witnessed it and there's actually when I door dash there is a restaurant that I love going to pick up from because when you first walk in if you go through the second door takes you into

[02:00:06] the restaurant area but if you go into the door on the left it takes you into the to-go area and the to-go area is all open kitchen so you can actually watch everything that is happening

[02:00:18] in the kitchen while you're waiting for your order and I love going in there and watching everything that happens when a kitchen's cooking it's cooking and and it's so fun to watch but

[02:00:29] there are moments where I have been able to predict what's gonna happen next in the kitchen and Dave's like how did how did you do that? I'm like because they're nailing it like whoever

[02:00:39] wrote this has worked in a kitchen yeah you know has like has like lived in a kitchen because it's 100% accurate. It's so good. Yeah it's really good. What's your other recommendation? My other recommendation is I watched same night as I started the bear actually I watched If

[02:01:01] the Ryan Reynolds. We're watching it tonight. It is, I will tell you I enjoyed this movie so much. The voice cast is phenomenal. It's Krasinski, Ryan Reynolds, Steve Carell. It's so it's just off the top of my head the main players are Ryan Reynolds, John Krasinski,

[02:01:27] Kaylee Fleming who played Judith in The Walking Dead. Right yep. I was so excited when she got this movie because I've met Kaylee she is an absolute sweetheart and I wanted to see her get

[02:01:38] a breakout role and this is it like this is her breakout role. Her and Ryan together are amazing her and John together are amazing but voice actor roles it's Phoebe Waller Bridges, Steve Carell,

[02:01:53] John Stewart, Lewis Gossip Jr like this was before he passed away. I think this is like the last role he did before he passed. So many other amazing voices in this movie and I will tell you

[02:02:08] this is a kids movie for adults and it can't wait. It is, I think your kids will be okay. I think your kids will get it and understand the movie but for younger kids it's a movie that even though

[02:02:24] it has a lot of animation and great voices they'll enjoy it but the main plot might go over their head a little bit. When I say that this is a kids movie for adults you will completely understand

[02:02:38] what I mean by that by the end of this movie. I kind of feel like that's Adam Project. Yeah Ryan Reynolds seems to like that genre. He takes our age groups need for nostalgia and he makes it into something really nice and I really appreciate that about him.

[02:02:55] I mean John Krasiski I understand like wrote this and created it but Ryan Reynolds he has found his niche in like the Adam Project and if and the things that he's doing like my son is obsessed

[02:03:11] with him. My son is I love Ryan. Love Ryan Reynolds. Yeah and he's been around since we were 20 you know what I mean? So for him to be relevant and loved by this younger generation

[02:03:23] and for us to love him the way that we do that's wonderful. That really speaks to who he is. Well because I mean yeah when you look at like Ryan in his career like you go back to movies

[02:03:33] like The Voices or Van Wilder which Van Wilder came out which is about a guy who just doesn't want to leave college like that Van Wilder came out while we were going through our college years

[02:03:47] and now like we're seeing him do these things with kids taking on the fatherly role because that's where we are in our lives now. Yeah that's why we relate to Ryan and his project so much.

[02:04:00] I really think that our age group is just one of the last true great generations. I know that that's you know kind of big to say but we were Gen Z for life baby. We are the last ones. Well

[02:04:14] I'm an Ex-Sinial or Cusper whatever you want to call it but are you? 1980. No I think you're still Z at that point. No. Oh no I think 80 is the first year of millennial.

[02:04:27] 81 is millennial like 80. It's just I'm a Cusper right. Or Gen X not Z. Yeah I'm sorry we're Gen X not Z. That's what I said but yeah um anyways our little generation our little micro generation of our digital of our digital adulthood and our analog childhood we've really

[02:04:48] I think that history is going to be kinder to us than how we feel right now. Well because you're right like we're a silent generation. We've lived through the transition. Yes yes and we're resourceful. We are jaded. We are curmudgens. We are I mean

[02:05:06] but we work hard. We've seen the world before the internet. Yep. We've witnessed the birth of the internet and we've adapted with the internet. Correct and we're going to watch in my opinion we're

[02:05:18] going to watch us lose the internet. But you know that's a conversation for a different day. No you're right that like 77 to maybe 83 84 80 yeah like you're right that is that my that cusp of

[02:05:37] X and millennial. The Exinials I don't know if you've ever heard that go to the subreddit but I like it. Here is here's another recommendation go to the subreddit Exinials X E N N I A L S

[02:05:50] Exinials if you were born between 77 and 83 you have found your people you're welcome. Okay all right fair enough. Um but go check I know I'm glad you're going to watch it because

[02:06:05] I want to hear your thoughts after you Adam's been out of town for the past week so he we're going to pick him up like now. So that's our plan for tonight is to watch if you have to let me

[02:06:16] know what you think after you watch it. Oh you know I will. Of course I'm expecting a text later. Well you know if that's gonna happen. Yep any final notes before we get out? No

[02:06:26] okay me neither. So as we mentioned we're going to take a couple weeks break we're going to be back on I think July 21st I said was the date. Let me just double check that July 22nd is going to be our

[02:06:43] July 21st for us July 22nd for you guys listening is going to be the next episode and we're going to return with Ted Lasso season three episode nine La La locker room alphalys

[02:06:58] which again is huge for Nate and Colin. Colin and Isaac. It's a Colin and Isaac episode but also Nate as well big episodes for all three of those characters. So take this time get called up on some television watch listen to some other podcasts oh Strange Indeed has

[02:07:16] returned on podcastica with Rima and Paik they are back talking about Sweet Tooth season three and as Kristen mentioned earlier Jason is doing a Walking Dead rewatch so you can always go over

[02:07:28] to podcastica.com to find links to those I check out my Wilhelm podcast at the same time Wilhelm podcast.com but I think that's it thank you guys for listening subscribing telling your friends

[02:07:39] about the podcast all that you guys do until next time I'm so sorry and Alex's podcast oh yeah um shit I should have had the Philly's podcast it's the Philly's podcast but I want to

[02:07:55] get the name right um the quit chasing podcast okay which you can find anywhere you find podcasts on Spotify Apple anywhere you find them go check it out especially if you're a baseball fan

[02:08:11] it's it's a great podcast for that if you're a Philly's fan give it back so uh but as I was saying thank you guys for listening subscribing telling everybody sharing the word about the podcast but

[02:08:21] until next time in a couple weeks we'll see you guys back out on the pitch take care Namaste