Episode 138: TED LASSO S03E09 "La Locker Room Aux Folles"

[00:00:00] Aaaaaaah! Aaaaaaaaaaah! Aaaaaaah! Aaaaaaah! Aaaaaaah! Aaaaaaah! Look, I get that some people think if they buy a ticket, they've got the right to yell whatever abusive shit they want at footballers. But they're not just footballers, they're also people.

[00:00:28] And none of us know what is going on in each other's lives. So for Isaac to do what he did today, even though it was wrong, I give him love. And as for why he did what he did, that's none of my fucking business. Next question!

[00:01:05] Yeah, new trend. Coach, let's talk about Colin Hughes. He's an elephant player and a great man. I think we've underused him. I think you're right. Glad we agree. I prefer you to old trend. Next question! Welcome to another episode of The Revisited Podcast. I'm Ben. And I'm Kristin.

[00:01:58] This week we are revisiting TED LASSO Season 3 Episode 9 La Locker Room Aux Folles. I don't know how to say it. There was just like a linger at the end, like you didn't know if that was the end of the word. So sorry. I'm not French.

[00:02:19] I can't do it. I'm sure I did all of that a serious injustice. I think a bigger thing is we're back from our break. Yay, we're back. We did it. A week later than we said we were going to, but you know, shit happens. Life happens.

[00:02:41] You knew we were coming back, but we're back to close out TED LASSO. We've got four episodes left. We are back for four weeks straight to knock this out. And I'm going to be so sad when we finish the show. Yeah, you know what?

[00:02:59] And it's the same feelings that I had before honestly, was that it was too quick. I don't feel ready for the story to end. I don't want it to end. I feel like we spent a lot of Season 3 waiting for things to pick up.

[00:03:18] And we went through some unnecessary plot points, one of which is, thank God, dead this week. Oh yeah. Yep. But I don't know. I mean, I don't want it to end. I feel like I know what's coming

[00:03:37] and I feel like we still could benefit from some more episodes. I'm sure we'll talk about that the closer we get to the finale as well. I will say, like one of the things we said before we went on break was

[00:03:52] we were both going to end up just watching the rest of these episodes and then coming back and talking about it. I didn't either. I didn't. I didn't either. I kind of, I wanted to and it wasn't that I didn't have the time because I've eaten.

[00:04:08] There's nothing on right now because everything is still on break. I mean, there's a couple of shows that are on right now. I finished Cheers while we were on break. Oh, cool. Which that was my first watch through

[00:04:20] and that'll play into the good place because of Ted Danson and it plays into Ted Lasso as well because of it. You know, Sudeikis' relation to George Winn. Yeah. But I didn't watch Lasso just because I wanted to save it for the podcast for the conversation.

[00:04:41] And I kind of didn't want to go through all the emotions of the story ending again because I knew if I went through it now, I was just going to have to do it again in a couple weeks.

[00:04:53] So I saved it and said I was going to do it. Neither one of us did it. It is what it is. Yeah. I mean, we didn't have time. So since we last spoke, I have been to Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, South Carolina, and then Pennsylvania cheese.

[00:05:14] So I've been a little busy. I'm offended by the G's because you came to Pennsylvania to see me. No, meaning like G's that's another state like that. I just it's more, you know? And my in-laws just came to visit for two weeks and that was

[00:05:33] a good eye opening visit about, listen, I'm just going to say this right now. If you haven't done so yet and you are, better nice age, mid 40s, start thinking about what you want when you get older. Start thinking about how you want to live.

[00:05:57] Start thinking about what options you might feel comfortable with because I think it's important to know these things for when you get older and you're more resistant to those options. If that makes any sense. No, it makes total sense because I already start thinking about that.

[00:06:21] My mother and I have had, you know my mother and I are very close. She comes over here once a week and we just spend one night a week with each other. Actually, as a matter of fact, next week when she comes,

[00:06:35] we're going to see Deadpool because I take my mom to see all the Marvel movies and she loves it. That's a tradition we're getting back to again now that Marvel is back in theaters. Her and I have had discussions about what to do if this

[00:06:48] happens, what to do if this happens to her, what to do if this happens to me. I'm not just talking like end of life scenarios. I'm talking, you know, As you get older. Living situations. It just happens. I've already started having those conversations. You know, it's important.

[00:07:08] I mean, and I'm at the age now where I'm watching my parents get older as well. And you forget that they, because we see them, you know, as our parents, they're always going to be our parents and it's such a weird reality when you

[00:07:25] look at them and you're like, oh my gosh, you're actually getting older. I should probably pay attention to this. Like I've had that thought with my own parents. I've had that thought with my in-laws, you know, and it's an important reminder not to put off the inevitable.

[00:07:42] Don't put off the fact that you, we are all going to get older. We all need to have a plan. We all need to figure out how do I live my best life as I'm older? And frankly, I don't want any,

[00:07:59] I don't want my kids taking care of me, right? I don't want to have that cycle where my kids eventually have to take care of me. So I'm going to make sure personally that that doesn't happen to my kids, that they don't have to take care of me.

[00:08:14] I'm going to figure out a way that I am all set up without my kids having to bear that burden. It shouldn't be their burden, right? They're going to have their own kids and they're going to have their own lives and they're going

[00:08:28] to have their own life path and trajectory. And I think it's important that sometimes we just all stop, think about it and move on. Yeah. I mean, I know like the big thing is like a lot of people

[00:08:40] say like live in the now, don't, you know, live in the past. Like every once in a while you have to think about the future. You have to. It's inevitable. You have to do it. I get it. I don't want to think about the future either.

[00:08:53] I don't want to think about the next six months at this point, but you know, you have to. I mean, a lot has happened since we last spoke. A lot happened in one weekend. Yeah. The weekend I was working the show in New Jersey,

[00:09:08] which was great by the way. You and I talked a little bit about that before we started recording, but I had a blast about that show. I'll talk a little bit about it more towards the end because it's going to relate into the Wilhelm podcast.

[00:09:19] You know, so towards the end when we're plugging, I'll talk a little bit more about that. But in that, in a course of that weekend, we had just lost Shelley Duvall a couple days before that weekend. Then during that weekend, we had an assassination attempt.

[00:09:35] We had the loss of Dr. Ruth Richard Simmons and Shannon Doherty in one weekend. A childhood, a teenage icon for me. I know Richard Simmons was like that for me too. I know who you're talking about. It's a child. Let's just, let's just. Oh, that was huge.

[00:09:52] That was huge for us because we were all sitting, all the moderators were sitting together when the news broke and a number of reunion cons coming up. Well, a number of the moderators that were with me that weekend have moderated panels with Shannon Doherty.

[00:10:09] She apparently is a beautiful person, was a beautiful person once she grew up and kind of got out of that 90210 fame toxicity that I think all teenage actors go through. Yeah. But then a couple days after that weekend, we lost Bob Newhart. You know, who was another legendary.

[00:10:31] Oh, Professor Prucon. Yeah, another legendary actor. And then so I freaked for a minute because a couple days after- Because you thought Jimmy Carter died? No, no, no. Because a couple days later, Variety posted a story about how Judd Apatow

[00:10:48] is doing a two part documentary for HBO on Mel Brooks. But they all they did was post a big picture of Mel Brooks and I saw that picture. I was like, if you fucking tell me Mel Brooks died, I'm going to freak out.

[00:11:02] And then I read the headline and I'm like, Jesus, like you need to like, you should have put a picture of Judd and Mel up together. Like, why did you post this picture with all of this death that has been happening?

[00:11:14] You post that picture, you scared the shit out of me. Yeah. Because he's in his upper 90s. We know that day is coming. And it's like- It was like Jimmy Carter. There was a fake account. There was a fake article that went out that Jimmy Carter died.

[00:11:31] I didn't see that. I missed that that weekend. But you know, I mean between all that, the assassination attempt, the RNC, and then Biden drops out. Now we have a new presidential candidate. Like American politics and then celebrity deaths

[00:11:53] and it's just like the past month has been wild. Yeah. Wild. Like July has been wild. It's so the biggest thing that made me laugh is anybody who knows me knows that I'm a big fan of John Oliver. I love last week tonight. I watch it every week.

[00:12:14] So last weekend, the weekend that Biden dropped out on Sunday. I'm not and I'm not saying this to start a political debate or anything, but it was brilliant because I think I still have the screenshot of it. I got to look. Maybe I don't.

[00:12:32] He filmed his show that weekend on Saturday. His show was irrelevant in less than an hour. And there was already so much that he had to talk about. And then so he filmed the show and it was the first show back after like a month.

[00:12:55] So he had a lot to catch up on. And I want to see if I can find the actual quote because it's fricking brilliant. He posted. The hell is this won't be edited out later? No, it won't because I'm keeping this awkwardness in. Jill.

[00:13:19] Oh, does Jill say stuff whenever we do stuff? We spend a lot of time looking stuff up in dead air. I don't care. All right. Here's the so here's the account. Oh, here it is. He posted on on social media. Hey, let's switch our taping day to Saturday.

[00:13:45] No big nose. No big news ever happens on Sunday afternoon quoted by some idiots. So he's so he's going to obviously talk about it this this this weekend. Right. They taped their show on Saturday. So they never even mentioned Biden dropping out. So funny. And you know what?

[00:14:06] It was probably still a really full show. Oh, it was. It was very full. That's what I'm saying, though, is that it's just everything is bananas right now. And I am very grateful for summer vacation where I can stay in my house

[00:14:21] and watch episodes of Big Bang Theory. I watched my comfort movie a couple nights ago. I watched live from Baghdad, which is my favorite movie. And I've been like snacking and sloth like for the past couple of weeks.

[00:14:39] I have been on a where I probably could have done the same thing of being like very camped in and sloth like, like you said, and kind of just like. Like relax eating and everything.

[00:14:54] I have been on a personal mission that by November 1st, I will drop 20 pounds. Good for you. I have been back to the gym three days a week for the past like a week and a half now. I am eating nothing but like chicken and veggies.

[00:15:09] I have not ordered out one time the entire since I started. I've not eaten out or anything. I haven't weighed myself either, but I'm purposely waiting to weigh myself. Don't weigh yourself. It's so it's so mentally wrong to do that to yourself.

[00:15:33] Just if your clothes fit better and you feel better, that should be your barometer. You know? Yeah. I don't want to talk about Ted Lasso. Yeah. I don't want to weigh myself to find I only like after two weeks, I only dropped two pounds. Like it's.

[00:15:47] And a pound a week is amazing, but it's also not motivating. Exactly. But you're right. We've done our catch up. Let's talk about Ted Lasso because this is an episode that. I'm not going to lie because I haven't seen it in a while.

[00:16:07] I got emotional a number of times through this episode and it was a varying emotion. Like it was at one point, like I was incredibly sad and got emotional and then I was incredibly happy and got emotional because there is a lot that happens in this episode.

[00:16:26] How many times can Ben say episode in a number? I don't know, but then you should kick it off. Go for it. So let's just start things off. Oh, so first things first, we're going to keep things as spoiler free as possible.

[00:16:38] I don't have anything for spoilers this week. Do you? No. So then we're just going to skip the spoilers that the spoiler section because I don't have anything this week. So then yeah, I don't even have to say we're well, we are still going to keep it

[00:16:54] a spoiler free as possible for those of you that are watching for the first time. But yeah, we see the team really clicking in the very beginning of this episode. We see them playful. We see them like making proper passes. Everybody's this whole team is happy and clicking.

[00:17:10] They're having fun. This is a different Richmond than we have seen for the first half of this season. And we find out it's because of what we found out the past episode. They changed things up. They're going with a new play style.

[00:17:27] Total football, total football and it's working. We're seeing they're on a winning streak. The team is happy. The coach is happy. The fans are happy because there's even more of them in the crowd now watching training.

[00:17:42] I love that we check in with Jeremy Baz and Paul, and they're like, you know, Isaac probably had a reason to do that. Like they know the team real well. They know that that's a little later in the episode too.

[00:17:55] But even though yeah, but what I'm saying is, is that checking in with the team. Like you are talking about everybody's happy. So a way to know that is you don't have Jerry Baz and Paul screaming at the television anymore. They understand what's happening.

[00:18:11] They're happy because they have the information. They feel like they are a part of the team that they, that's the greatest thing about the Richmond team right now is that Ted Lasso has given the Richmond fans a free ownership stake. Come watch the practice.

[00:18:27] Come peek behind the curtain. We want you there. We want you invested. That makes me think of something I will actually do a spoiler for. Oh, OK. So going to take that back.

[00:18:38] We are going to, we are going to jump into something very quick for spoilers because you just made me think of something. I'm so smart. But I mean, even before that, like we see, you're right.

[00:18:49] We see Jeremy Baz and Paul like very happy and they're not screaming at the TV. They're rooting for their team. But even, even kind of on that same note, we see May is very happy because the bar is making money again.

[00:19:03] The pub is making money so much so that they ran out of pint glasses. I love it that Jerry Baz and Paul got champagne flutes. But they looked huge. Is it me or did those look like the biggest champagne flutes in the world?

[00:19:19] They looked kind of normal to me. I think that they got to drink for free out of those champagne flutes that night. I don't know, but we all know that Paul thinks that tastes better. I think anything tastes better out of a champagne flute. Honestly. Yeah.

[00:19:36] You just automatically feel like you're celebrating. Just put a champagne flute in your hand. You're celebrating. Yeah. I would drink sparkling apple cider out of a champagne flute with everybody else's drinking champagne and be just as happy as everybody drinking champagne. Yeah.

[00:19:51] Although I love champagne and prosecco like I really, really do. That's the one thing where if somebody is like, hey, we're going to pop a bottle of bubbles. I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll have some. I can say no to everything.

[00:20:06] But if somebody's got that popped, I'm like, yeah, okay, that sounds good. Let's do that. There was, I don't want to go off on another topic. I'll talk about it later. Yeah, I'll talk about it later. Anyway, keep going. Yeah.

[00:20:19] So we see like, you know, this team again is very happy, very clicked, clicked together. The coaches are happy because we see Roy is happy about it. Like he's telling the team great job to beard fainting at the idea of, you know, like telling the team great job.

[00:20:36] But they're still in underlying issue and it's the tension between Colin and Isaac. Because, you know, we're seeing that, you know, Colin is trying to talk to Isaac. Isaac is kind of ignoring him.

[00:20:52] And, you know, that is basically the main point of this episode is the tension between Colin and Macadoo. And the overall, like the underlying reason behind it because the episode throughout the entire episode, they do a really good job of making you believe that

[00:21:13] the reason behind this tension could be the fact that maybe Isaac is a little homophobic. They do a really good job of making you believe that only to find out by the end that that's not the case at all. Well, yes and no.

[00:21:31] I don't think that they do a really good job of hiding it only because if we've been paying attention, we should know that Isaac is not that personality if we've been paying attention.

[00:21:48] Right? The casual viewer, I think would definitely go the route of he's a homophobe or like what Sam said after Isaac left the locker room was, hey, let's be supportive because Isaac is gay. Right?

[00:22:03] So it's easy to make the assumption that Isaac is angry because he's also gay and ashamed about it or that he's a homophobe or that he's just really mad at his best friend for not trusting their friendship, which can come out in all different ways. Yeah.

[00:22:24] Well, I think what really does it is there's a particular moment in the episode that kind of makes you second guess everything. And it's, yes, like we what we know about Isaac is makes us believe that he's not this person.

[00:22:36] He's just angry that Colin has been holding this secret and he didn't trust him enough. And I think we as viewers are kind of like, yes, that's the underlying reason. That's the Isaac we know. That's the Isaac we know.

[00:22:48] He's upset at Colin because Colin never admitted this to him like their friendship. How could he never tell you this? But then there's a moment when they're in the huddle and everybody's hands are going in and their hands are on top of each other.

[00:23:02] And Isaac pulls back because he doesn't want to be touching Colin's hand. That was a weird moment. It's in that moment that you kind of question like, oh, wait, like is there more to this? Like is Isaac like a little homophobic?

[00:23:17] Like he just, but what I appreciate is the fact that they don't make you linger on that for very long. Because it's that's the huddle right before they go to the game.

[00:23:28] They go out and they play the first half and then it's when everything goes down during the right before the second half that you really start to really realize like what it is. Right. What's happening? Yes.

[00:23:41] So I'm, I'm, I like the fact that they don't make you linger with that thought very long, but they do give you that thought if even just for a short period of time. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't know.

[00:24:00] I had a lot of trouble with this episode this week. I just didn't find it very engaging. Well, I don't have, I don't have nearly as many bullet points for this episode as I usually do.

[00:24:15] But like even, even, I mean, even the whole Isaac being mad about Colin being gay or is he mad or is he not mad? You know, the temper tantrum, Colin not being able to even get through to him or get a handshake from him.

[00:24:31] How it affected the game, the way that it did. It was very extreme for somebody that's mad at his one friend. Okay. I can kind of see that. I think there's a, I don't know.

[00:24:50] I think this, I think this episode was very important only because they've been building to this whole thing with Colin's secret. Yeah. You know, he's had Trent to kind of go to and confide in.

[00:25:02] But we've all as viewers, we want to know that the team supports Colin in how he is. And we get that by the end of this. I never felt like the team would turn their back on Colin, especially the way that they are now.

[00:25:18] Especially the way that they've been since, since that first night when they were all throwing their hexes into the trash can and singing, Rich Until We Die. I really feel like this is a different kind of team.

[00:25:32] And maybe it is about the fact that we need to trust the people that are closest to us. And maybe that's the lesson that we're learning is trust your people. Trust the people that you trust with everything else in your life.

[00:25:43] And maybe that is the point of the episode. Well, so in close relation to everything that is happening with Colin and McAdoo, with Colin and Isaac, there is another thing that comes out of this. And it is Roy being comfortable in who he is.

[00:26:00] This is a huge episode for Roy and it kind of ties into it a little bit because that press conference at the end is Roy literally getting out of his own way as Rebecca so eloquently puts it earlier on in the episode.

[00:26:17] You know, Roy needed something for him to kind of realize, you know, that Rebecca was right. I think you would have realized it on his own even without all of this.

[00:26:27] Because Rebecca was very forthcoming with what she thought, you know, selling him to get out of your own way.

[00:26:35] That whole conversation when Roy, when she calls Roy into the office and goes off on him like telling him stop being a prick like get out of your own way. I love that scene because this is Rebecca being boss lady Rebecca who we love. Boss ass bitch.

[00:26:53] Boss ass bitch. And then, but there's also this little moment where after she's done berating Roy and the camera goes back to Rebecca, there's this coy little like looking up like a puppy at Roy.

[00:27:07] And that's kind of like her apologetic way of saying like I'm sorry, but you know I'm right. Yeah. There's just this look that she gives her. But see that's the way that people should be talking to Roy. That's his love language. Scream at him. He's gonna hear you.

[00:27:25] Yeah. You know, you really, you really love Roy in this episode. He has quiet moments in this episode that first of all, we get to hear him say whistle. Again. Which is always my favorite. Whistle. Good job today.

[00:27:51] But you know, you get the quieter softer moments of Roy. You get the moments of Roy that remind us why Keely loved him so much. And I think that that's really beautiful.

[00:28:06] Well, so I mean, even before all of this goes down with Isaac and Colin and that the press conference that Roy ends up handling by the end, we get it earlier on in the episode. Rebecca asks Roy to take the press conference because Ted can't do it.

[00:28:22] Ted has to step away. He's got parent teacher conferences, you know, for Henry. So she tells Roy to do the press conference and he ends up handing it over to Beard. But in that moment, but in that moment where where Rebecca asks Roy, like I love the fact

[00:28:41] that Rebecca, like as much as Roy likes to be Roy, Rebecca has the power even over Roy. Because like she's like, I'd like you to do the press conference and he's like, fuck no. And then immediately Rebecca just gives him this look as in like, excuse me.

[00:29:01] Like we are seeing boss ass bitch Rebecca again and like not intentional. Like she's just stepping up to be the bad ass boss that she is. Well, and she's just like, OK, I see that you said no, but I am your boss.

[00:29:17] So I'm going to stand here until you give me the reason. You give me the answer that I expect from you, which is she does. Yes, ma'am. She doesn't even have to say anything to Roy. She's a racial expression. Yeah.

[00:29:33] She just yeah, she just stares there at him blankly and he backs off. It's like OK, OK. I'll give it to beer. Like that's just but then he ends up undermining her and giving it to Beard anyway. That was such a bad move. Oh my God.

[00:29:50] And then you go in and you see Beard is like arguing with the press and you find out it's over who is the greatest rock guitarist of all time. Yeah. Mm hmm. Which everybody knows, which everybody knows is Jimi Hendrix.

[00:30:02] So I don't know why we had other names. I don't. But however I am offended that Beard thinks Jimmy Page is overrated. Maybe he is. Maybe he is. However, my favorite part of that is Higgins poking fun at Rebecca. That guy from cream guy from cream. Dear God.

[00:30:28] Oh my for anybody that doesn't know who the guy from cream is. It's clapped in. Clapped in. It's slow hand himself. Yeah. It's arguably one of the top three guitarists of all time. Yeah. I've had the awesome bill. I've had the awesome pleasure of seeing Clapton perform.

[00:30:46] Oh, he's so lucky. I want to. So he's he's number one on my bucket list. Yeah. I've seen Clapton perform and he is amazing. So when Higgins comes out and he's just that guy from cream, like I was his deracle. How do you not know that's ever clapped?

[00:31:05] Well, I guess if you're not a big, of course Higgins knows it's clapped like to he's tuned in to the music world. He's Eric Clapton. Yeah. Well, a lot of people. British from what I know. I think British.

[00:31:20] A lot of people don't realize that Clapton had a career before Clapton. Like there are some people that probably just don't know he started out in cream. Anybody, Rebecca Welton's age is going to know that he that who the guy from cream is.

[00:31:34] Well, she probably also panicked a little bit too because she didn't expect that next question. Yeah. She didn't expect it to be a continuation of Beards discussion with the press core guy from cream. Oh, hilarious.

[00:31:55] But yeah, like it's you know, but then we get that moment where like she's pissed off and she runs into the locker room and she's like, oh, he can't like my office like get or get your hairy ass in my office now. Which I forgot about this moment.

[00:32:13] Has one of my favorite quotes from the episode that I will save for quotes, but that moment is just it's fucking Roy Kent at his brilliant like. And I love it that he's so petty. He's petty enough to turn around and he's like, I hate all of you.

[00:32:28] Yeah. You know what I mean to the fucking I'll just say it now. He's just like, he's like every single one of you knows my ass isn't hairy yet. None of you spoke up and I will never forget it. It's such a perfect Roy Kent moment.

[00:32:49] I really is. I love it. It's just, I mean, and then we see again, we go back to Roy, you know, Rebecca setting Roy straight like she knows Roy needs to get his head out of his ass. He needs to stop being so distracted by himself.

[00:33:05] And we finally see him break out of that when he goes into that press conference. And I think a lot of that stems from the fact that whatever happens with Mac adieu, he's kind of shaken because he's not like, he's kind of shaken awake because he sees something

[00:33:22] happen that he can relate to. This is something he has been through himself and he doesn't want to see somebody go through what he went through. Right. You know, he realizes that he didn't. He was so distracted by himself then.

[00:33:41] Now he can't be and he wants to prevent somebody else from going down that same path, especially if it's Mac adieu. Yeah. Mac adieu is his pick. Yeah. He was the one he picked as captain. And Mac adieu in his anger made an excellent pick. Oh, absolutely.

[00:34:02] And that was probably my favorite part of the entire show of this episode was Jamie trying to get the captain banned from Sam. That little cheeky moment between Jamie and Sam when Jamie's kind of like, can I get the band? And Sam's like, what, this band?

[00:34:22] Like they're not talking, but this is like the silent conversation between them. And it's like, yeah, that band and Sam just like gives them the finger. He's like, nope, you can go fuck off. Amazing. Amazing. But that was like another one of my other favorite moments

[00:34:39] of that too is after the blow up of everything in Collins or and Mac adieu storms off and the locker room starts discussing, like, you know, like 10% statistically, 10% of the population is homosexual. And, you know, Van Damme's like, well, that means

[00:34:54] there could be other people and our beards. Like, well, that means, you know, there could be more than one of us that are there's two in that room. And every one. Yes. But everybody looks at Jamie and he's like, I'm flattered. Yeah, I like it.

[00:35:12] He's like, oh, I'm flattered. That's actually very nice. Yeah. He kind of like, he appreciates the fact that everybody can take care of myself enough to be considered gay. Thank you. Yeah. Exactly. He kind of takes it as like a point of pride. Yeah, he shouldn't. Yeah.

[00:35:30] But you're right. Like Beard hit it like statistically that means there could be more than one person in the locker room was gay. And like you said, you're right. Because Trent also was gay. And I don't think everybody knows that.

[00:35:42] I know I don't actually think Colin is the only one that knows. I mean, you know, he lives as he's kind of like if and I know you know this, but anybody that has seen the show captain, captain Brooklyn nine nine, he's kind of like Captain Holt.

[00:35:59] He's very out. He just doesn't talk about it. He just doesn't talk about it. Yeah. Right. Exactly. He has his rainbow mug. You know, he has lots of like, yeah, he won't deny it, but he's not going to sit there and be like, I'm gay. Hey, yeah, exactly.

[00:36:18] Yeah. He doesn't walk into a room and be like, Hey, guess what? I'm gay. And just announce it. Like he won't deny it if it's brought up, but he just doesn't publicly announce it. Right. And I don't think it's that he's ashamed.

[00:36:31] I think it's that, you know, when he's at work, he's at work. There is another amazing Trent moment in this episode that I'm sure you probably picked up on and because we've talked a little bit about this before and it's the whole idea that Trent has found his

[00:36:49] story. And there's another moment very similar to that in this episode that kind of builds upon that. And it's after we come back to, like everybody's thinking that MacCadoo is the one that's gay and Collin stands up. He's like, wait a minute.

[00:37:04] And then it breaks and it goes to Roy and Colin have, Roy and Isaac have their conversation and it comes back to Collin is out to the team. They're showing their support for him. Ted gives his whole, we don't not care, not care speech, which is fantastic.

[00:37:21] I loved that speech and the fact that it was cheapened by are you, are you comparing being gay to being a Denver Broncos fan? Like Ted tried to connect what was happening with Colin in the only way he knew how

[00:37:38] and probably for a lot of other people in that locker room who are not well versed in gay issues probably got some perspective from that story. I thought it was a great story. I did too. I thought that it was very relevant and I

[00:37:55] thought that it was cheapened by the cheap joke at the end. Of relating being gay to being a Broncos fan. Yeah, I thought that that was pretty dismissive of Colin when Ted was trying to make a connection and make Colin feel better.

[00:38:08] But also at the same time, Colin is the one that makes the joke. I don't care. I don't, I don't, I don't care. I think it was in poor taste. Okay. No, that's fair enough. I can see that. But going back to my, my trend comment here.

[00:38:26] You know the team, they show their support for Colin. Everybody is there for Colin. The team walks out, they're getting ready to go back out on the field. I love Sam's huddle where he's trying to figure out what to say and he's just

[00:38:39] like, I love you guys so very much and Jamie just jumps on it. He's like on three and they all do that as like their countdown before they go out which is just. I just love you guys so much. Yeah. You know, and that's, that's what they do.

[00:38:53] But there's that moment with Trent and Colin right before they leave the room. And Trent says to Colin like, you know, on, you know, scale of how bad it could be and he's like, you know, and Colin's like second worst. He's like, you know, the second best

[00:39:10] best being the whole team comes out at the same time. Everybody admits that they're gay, you know, at the same time and we get on the cover of Oprah's magazine. Yeah. And then Colin walks out and Trent stops and he kind of just looks back at the

[00:39:25] locker room and has this big smile on his face because Trent's realizing yeah, this is the story. Yeah. I've, I picked the right thing. Like this is the story. I'm so proud of this story. I'm telling. Well, I mean, when and it's funny

[00:39:44] that you say that because I thought about the first episode when Trent says, I think there's a story here. And he got way more than he thought that he would ever get, I think. I don't think he knew about cause,

[00:40:02] you know, it's kind of like that duck analogy, right? You see a duck that's on. Very calm above the water. Calm above the water. And then when you look below the water, it's just frenzied motion, right? Yes. I think that Trent found his duck story, right?

[00:40:21] Yeah, it's just, you know, you're right. It's Trent is getting more that he ever imagined he was going to get. And not in like an exploitive way. Like there's just so much heart and compassion to this story. And he knows it like he's seeing more

[00:40:41] and more of it. And that look where he just stops and turns around and looks at that locker room. It's not in a sense of like, oh, there's so much more to tell. It's more of there is so much magic in this room that I can't wait

[00:41:00] for people to find out about. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's excitement. It's going to be a number one best selling book. Oh, 100%. And I almost wish the book was real. I do too. Because I would buy it and read it. Trent Crimm, The Independent. No, Trent Crimm, Independent.

[00:41:24] Do you have anything else on Trent? Or Isaac or Colin. So, I mean, there's definitely more about Colin and Isaac we can talk about because it was not a lot. But you know, we talked about Macaduce frustration about everything. We talked about Jamie and Sam's interaction

[00:41:46] over the captain's band and everyone looking at Jamie when they say somebody else in that locker room. But like, there's the thing that I mentioned at the top of that podcast about being emotional and getting emotional from this scene. And one of the first times I really

[00:41:59] started to get emotional when and it was a sad emotional was that fan, that fan in the audience in the crowd. We have seen that fan in past episodes. We know because I mentioned him. I mentioned him in a spoiler part

[00:42:15] or a couple episodes ago that that fan is going to cause them issues. And he does. He says the F word and it's not fuck. It's the other F word. And that's really what sets Isaac off. And what we're going to come to learn

[00:42:34] by the episode is that it's not the fact that he's being called that that he finds insulting. It's being defensive of his best friend. 100%. But you don't know that at the time. Right. You know, you come to realize by the end of this episode,

[00:42:52] he gets that upset because he doesn't want Colin to feel that way. He's defending Colin in that moment. You don't see it at the time. But I like, I got sad emotional because of the fact that I hate the fact

[00:43:13] that there are people in this world like that. Yeah. I despise that because I have friends who are gay. As I know, I'm sure you do too. Like, and I am incredibly supportive of my friends who are gay or trans or anything

[00:43:34] as far as their sexual orientation goes. And I probably would have gotten just as upset as Colin or as Isaac in that situation. Mm-hmm. And I think a lot of it stems from the fact that one, he's defending his best friend

[00:43:50] because he feels like somebody is calling his best friend a word. He shouldn't be called that. But also, I think it's an overboiling of frustration because Colin's not reacting. Colin's used to it. He is. Yep. I mean, Colin has been in the locker room for years.

[00:44:11] You know, that locker room has been a hotbed for all sorts of talk, you know? Yeah. Where he has to pretend that he's someone that he's not. He's gotten very, very good at hiding who he is.

[00:44:24] Isaac doesn't know how to hide the fact that he has a peanut in his cheek. I mean, he just kind of lives his life out loud. Well, even in that conversation at the end with Colin and Isaac,

[00:44:37] when Isaac goes to the door and apologizes to Colin, you know, and they kind of have that conversation, Isaac says to him like, I don't know how you do it. And like, I think that's a huge realization for Isaac is that,

[00:44:50] like, yes, he's upset that Colin never told him about it. But it's also a huge realization that like Colin is much stronger than Isaac ever took him for because Isaac couldn't handle it. Right. Colin does it on a daily basis. Yeah, he does. He does.

[00:45:10] And you get that reminder of how much Colin has been hiding himself at the end when Macaduce at his doorstep and you see that ridiculous car that Colin drives in the driveway. Right? How's that, Colin? I'd be interested to see it by the end of this series because

[00:45:28] I can't remember if Colin's driving a different car. It'd be interesting because that could be a big disguise. The car, in essence, is a disguise for Colin. Totally a disguise. He doesn't even know how to drive it. Yeah. But, you know, by the end of this episode,

[00:45:46] we see that Colin and Isaac are back to being Colin and Isaac. I love their conversation too. Keep my head down in the shower and try to think about... I think about global warming. Global warming, that's what it was. I thought that was just so honest.

[00:46:02] And it was such an open and honest conversation for the two of them like he got to ask all the questions he's ever wanted to ask about gay people and Colin got to talk about his lifestyle with his best friend while playing video games.

[00:46:16] But my favorite part of that conversation too is Colin, it's how the episode ends, is Colin saying, I love you, Boyo. And McAdoo says nothing back and Colin, he knows what Isaac is thinking. It means you can't say it back, can you?

[00:46:32] But Isaac says, you know I do though. It's such a great moment. Yeah, such a macho man. I love it. There's such polar opposites and usually polar opposites are what attract the most. I mean my husband and I are very, very different.

[00:46:50] Jill, my best friend, she is an extrovert while I am a reclusive introvert. So it works. Oh, I'm a hell of an introvert until I have to be on stage and then I become like a performance extrovert. And it's weird because I actually had that conversation with

[00:47:12] some people recently, like you are an incredible introvert. I don't know how you do panel moderating and everything. And I'm like, it's different. That's a performance brain. You're an introverted extrovert. Yeah, oh 100%. No. 1,000% I'm introverted extrovert. I can do that too. I get very drained by it.

[00:47:31] So it usually takes, you know, at least a day to recover from a lot of energy being on. I'm the kind of person that it takes a lot to get me to leave the house to go to a party that I'm invited to.

[00:47:49] But once you're there, it's awesome. Once I'm there, I'm fine. I'm talking to everybody. Totally the same. But I don't want to leave. Somebody should come and get me. If you really want me there, just come and get me. Yep.

[00:48:05] There's a part of me that's like, I don't need to go to this party. It's fine. Nobody will care if I'm not there. And then once I'm there, I'm like talking to everybody. Yeah, but I also don't want to be there as long as everybody

[00:48:17] wants to be somewhere. So I leave without telling anybody I'm going to leave. Oh, I don't do that. I say my goodbyes. I need to always have an exit plan, which is why I don't like being picked up, which is also why I don't like going places

[00:48:31] because I have to drive. It's, you know, it's very complicated. Anyways, we're talking about Isaac and Colin. Yeah, but again, like I love that by the end of this, that frustration is gone. We see the two of them again because we do see it was

[00:48:45] affecting their play on the field. The whole team had no idea what was going on. Like everything is working. Everything's clicking. They're winning all these games. And then Isaac goes out there and just basically like shits the bed on the field. Yeah. Pitch on the pitch.

[00:49:02] I knew what you meant, but yeah. So, and then, you know, going back to Roy's press conference as well, what an amazing moment for Roy. Because this is Roy opening up too. Like this is him telling a story about something he knows he did wrong.

[00:49:22] You know, and telling this story about how he joked with this guy and this guy pounded on him. And he didn't know the reason why and then he finds out the reason why. And he has lived with this like this entire career.

[00:49:38] And he finally opens up about it and tells the press core about it. And it's such a great moment too because like Rebecca sees that this is Roy finally getting out of his own way. He gives Rebecca the nod and Rebecca just has this huge

[00:49:53] smile like, yes, this is the Roy I want. This is the Roy we want. And it's great. It's a great all of this. It's the Roy that they know. It's the Roy that they've always known was there. I mean, Rebecca has seen flashes of Roy.

[00:50:13] Keely obviously has, you know, but I mean, when you think about Rebecca, Rebecca got that amazing speech from Roy a couple of seasons ago when he's like, no, don't you dare settle for fine. You know, like he knows she knows how much care is

[00:50:29] behind his Oscar the Grouch exterior. I love that you use the Oscar the Grouch exterior. Well, he was on the Muppet or he was on Sesame Street. Yeah. And took pictures with Oscar the Grouch. Of course he did. In a trash can.

[00:50:42] He and Oscar the Grouch, they both have the same unibrow. Yeah. You know, oddly enough, you know, a couple months back I went and I saw his stand up. Our friend Greg, who's hopefully going to be on one of the last couple episodes we have of Ted Lasso

[00:50:59] just recently got to go and see that show because it came to his town. Yeah. And he asked, I was like, he sent me a message like, Hey, did he do this joke when we did it? And like, yeah, he did that joke.

[00:51:12] I was like, I take it you enjoyed the show. He's like, Oh, it's fucking amazing. Yeah. So I'm so glad other people got to see that one man show and he just added more dates too. Good. So if anybody I know he had to cancel a car,

[00:51:26] postpone a couple of dates because for one reason or another. Yeah. But he just had, he's back on tour. He just added a bunch more dates like he actually just added one to Maryland. So I might make the trip and go see him again. In Baltimore.

[00:51:42] And I don't think it's Baltimore. Okay. If it is Kevlar. I've been in the Baltimore before. It is scary. I know how it is. Have you seen the wire? It's not. So Baltimore Inner Harbor is nice. Anything outside of Inner Harbor is the wire. Yeah, no, thanks.

[00:52:02] I don't even want to pretend that I know how to navigate that. Can we move on from Colin? Yeah, I think I've covered everything about Colin, Roy and Rebecca. Okay, good. Because I want to talk about Jade. And Nate. But Jade is a boss in this episode.

[00:52:22] Can we just talk about the fact that she just, she knows who Rupert is without saying a word? Yeah. I love. She knows. She knows from the moment Rupert walks in. That he's a snake. Who Rupert is. Yep. And we get more.

[00:52:45] And watching her boyfriend dance around this man probably was just torture for her. We get huge indications about the person that Rupert is in this episode. He is so disgusting. He is swarmy and trying to charm Jade. Because Rupert is a person we get, we find,

[00:53:11] we know this already. We know this. It's been underlying for a while, but now we get it flat out on the surface. Rupert is somebody who feels he can take what he wants. From trying to charm Jade, who is this beautiful girl

[00:53:29] on Nate's shoulder, to the fact that he can walk in and just help himself to Nate's baklava. I don't, you know me. I don't do group food. I don't like group food. I don't like it when people's yucky hands, even my kids are in my stuff.

[00:53:47] If you know me, don't go for my stuff unless I give you permission. And don't drink from my drink. Don't do it. Those are the rules for being Kristen's friend. So when I saw Rupert being like, I love baklava and he sticks his stupid meaty hands right into

[00:54:07] the box and grabs one of the best looking pieces, by the way, and just pops it in his mouth. Nate was going to offer it to him anyways, but he didn't even wait. Because that's Nate. Because, oh gosh, because Nate is just so... He's like that golden retriever.

[00:54:24] He just wants to please his master at all times. And then he feels real bad for himself if he doesn't please his master, just like a golden retriever. Well, Jade, as you mentioned, like as boss as Jade is in this episode, that kind of becomes a huge

[00:54:42] realization for Nate. Is your right? He's like the retriever when he wants to please his master. But Jade has been the best... And I don't think there's any arguing this. Jade is the best thing that has ever happened to Nate. And will ever happen to Nate.

[00:54:59] And Nate realizes it by the end of this episode. But when he goes to... It's Bones and Honey, right? That's the name of the place. It's Bones and Honey, yeah. When he goes to Bones and Honey, gosh, he was so excited about that guy's trip. I just...

[00:55:15] And see, and I knew what was coming. And this is my first re-watch through season three, like we've talked about. And I look at Nate differently in this episode because I can see how excited he is that he gets one on one time with

[00:55:28] who he wants to be his mentor since Ted is gone. And, you know, he's even so proud to say it to the person that invites him in for a pint, which is also very cool. It proves how much Nate has changed because somebody came into his office

[00:55:43] and offered a social event with him. I mean, the very beginning of this season, he doesn't talk to anybody. Nobody looks at him. He thinks everybody's beneath him. And now he's got coworkers that are coming in inviting him for a pint. That's huge. That's huge non-verbal growth

[00:56:01] that I think was very shrewd with the writers to just kind of slip that in to show that, yes, Nate is changing. Right? But he was so excited to tell this guy about Guy's Night with Rupert, you know? Oh, I'm going out with Rupert.

[00:56:16] It's kind of a Guy's Night. You know, he's so excited that he doesn't understand that if he's meeting him at Bones and Honey, what happened the last time you were at Bones and Honey, Nate? What happened? He got introduced... You got introduced to a ridiculous woman.

[00:56:31] Well, Rupert was with a ridiculous woman that wasn't his wife. What did you think was going to happen? Well, I think taking that even a step further too is the last time they were at Bones and Honey and he was there with Rupert and Rupert introduced him

[00:56:44] to that model, that supermodel like, and they entered into some kind of public relationship afterwards. Like, the difference this time is is that before this, Nate proudly introduces him to Jade, to his girlfriend, who tried to measure the smile on his face when he's saying those words.

[00:57:06] Ear to ear. He is like, this is something that means so much to him. He's incredibly happy about and it's completely ignored and undermined by Rupert because he says it to Rupert, Rupert sees it and then what does Rupert do? He completely dis-regards it

[00:57:24] and introduces him to another woman at the bar. And it's in that moment that Nate realizes this man has no regard for anything I told him. He doesn't care. Well, yes. But at the same time he is also Rupert's got his own agenda.

[00:57:42] He wants to make Nate into a mini Rupert. He wants somebody just as mean and just as conniving and just as slimy as him so that they can like, I don't know, rule the football league. I'm not really sure, but that seems to be his master,

[00:57:58] Rupert's master plan. So I think Rupert learns a lesson in this episode as well. He learns that Nate is not who he thought Nate was. Nate was a completely different person when Rupert approached him. Nate was angry. He was petty. He was destructive.

[00:58:17] He was everything that Rupert wanted in a moldable piece of clay, anger clay. And now Nate's gone on this journey and he's met Jade. And Ted has kind of been there without being there as well. I think Henry and Ted showing up to the West Ham game

[00:58:40] was huge for Nate. Oh, 100, yeah. Completely. So you get that Nate is still being tethered to doing the right thing. And that tether is starting to get stronger and pulling him away from what has kept him toxic, what has kept him angry, what has kept him destructive,

[00:59:01] which is Rupert. And this is a clarifying moment for both Rupert and Nate in Bones and Honey. Their relationship is over. You can see it in their eyes. Now, without saying anything, we don't know what's going to happen next. If you don't know what's going to happen next,

[00:59:17] you don't know what's going to happen next. But something fundamentally changes in Bones and Honey in this episode. Yeah. I mean, even look at the fact that when Rupert introduces him to these two women and Nate comes to that realization, this is not what I want.

[00:59:36] This is, I don't want to be here right now because I think he is appreciating what he has. And that's Jade. I think he always has appreciated it. And now that appreciation level has doubled. Because what does he do when he leaves? He goes to Jade.

[00:59:52] And he just embraces her. Yeah. Did you notice that Jade didn't say anything bad about Rupert? I don't because I think Jade knows that Nate needs to realize it for himself. But that's Jade, isn't it? Like, I mean, just the whole season,

[01:00:09] the whole time that we've known her, she doesn't say anything, but she knows exactly what's going to happen at the same time. Like, she's just like, OK, you can play that game. I know what's going to happen and I'll just watch it happen.

[01:00:22] She has that look about her. She has that intuition. Yeah. Like, she has such an intuition. God. I said it's such a gift. Yeah. She has that intuition. Like, she just knows. She knows that where Nate is going to fall. Yeah. But she's also smart about it

[01:00:43] and because it gives Nate strength for Nate to realize it on his own. He doesn't need to be told what to do because that kind of takes away your strength of when you realize it on your own. She kind of knows that Nate is going to realize it

[01:00:59] and that's going to make him stronger and that's kind of what happens. It's funny that you say that because as you're talking about that, because I completely agree, it could also be that she wants to see if she's wasting her time or not.

[01:01:18] I mean, she doesn't say anything and she knows that this guy's night is about to happen. I think she knows exactly who Rupert is and she wants to see if Nate is like Rupert or if Nate is who she thinks Nate is

[01:01:33] and this is going to be a big test. So she doesn't say anything because she wants to get the measure of Nate. Who are you? That could also be true too. One of the other things I noticed too is that when Nate says to Rupert,

[01:01:47] hat bones and honey, like I just realized I have to leave, Rupert doesn't say anything. He just turns and walks away. Like he doesn't even acknowledge the fact that Nate's leaving. He just kind of turns and gives Nate the cold shoulder and walks away.

[01:02:05] He gives him a look though. That's that moment that I'm talking about. It's like they silently break up with each other. On Monday, they'll figure out the logistics of it. They've already broken up. I mean, again, that's not to say when you look at the whole overarching story

[01:02:26] of Nate flipping out on Ted, Nate leaving Rich, then going to West Ham and working for Rupert, 100% I feel like every single step of this was needed for Nate to make Nate a stronger person. I don't think any of this story was wasted or made up

[01:02:44] just for the sake of filler. I feel like every single step needed to happen to make Nate a stronger person. I would agree with that. On second watch, I have a much softer viewpoint of Nate on second watch. Because I know you were very critical

[01:03:04] of where Nate's story went for season three. 100%. I hated it. I hated it. But a lot of times as it happens, it happened probably with Lost for maybe some people, I think it happened for Steve. When you slow down and you break it down

[01:03:22] and you try to understand what the purpose is and what the intention is for some of these characters, you soften. You see what the outcome is and what the process of that outcome is. That's why I think it's so important to re-watch shows that you love so much

[01:03:44] or shows that you didn't understand. If you didn't understand, watch it again. Going back to Lost, which is how we started this whole podcast, it still plays true today. There are still people that say, oh, that show, shit the bed and everything else.

[01:04:01] When you go back and you re-watch it, you pay better attention to everything and pay closer attention to it too. It's happening now with Ted Lasso, which is arguably a much different show than Lost. Yes. It makes me very excited to go into the good place

[01:04:16] when we're done this to see how viewpoints of that change, especially with how philosophical that show gets at times. We're going to have to brush up on our philosophers before we actually do this. We're going to have to sit down, lay back on our couch

[01:04:31] and read Kafka like Jade did in this episode. Yeah. If there's anybody that is a philosopher as a degree or hobby, Ryden, I know Jason's excited to join us for episodes of the Good Place because he's very much into philosophy and such. Perfect.

[01:04:53] He can be on the episode where Cheety talks about Emmanuel Kant. Oh, wait, that's all of them. But anyway, like getting back to it, like you're right, like you hit the nail on the head, like going back and rewatching.

[01:05:05] Because when anytime we watch a show for the first time, it's always a very surface viewpoint. It's not until you go back and you re... It's why podcasters, anytime they podcast on a show, whether it be Star Wars or Walking Dead or anything,

[01:05:22] they watch the episode multiple times. Yes. Because you need that second watch to get under the surface of what is happening. I know some people that on their second watch, they watch it with subtitles to make sure that they have all the words right.

[01:05:38] To make sure they didn't miss any of the dialogue. Right. You know, we did that with Peaky Blinders because it was just, well, impossible to decipher most of the time. But, you know, gosh, Peaky Blinders would be a good one to do.

[01:05:53] You know they're making a movie of that, right? I do. Yeah, I do. They've been saying that for years. We'll see when it happens. No, no, there was like news that came out of Comic-Con this past weekend that... Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's progressing forward.

[01:06:06] There's been a real long process. Every single time they say, we have news, I'm like, sure, just give me a trailer. Show me that you filmed something. Okay. So going back to what we were talking about, I will wrap this conversation up in saying that

[01:06:21] I am glad that your opinion of the Nate storyline for season three has changed. Yeah. And for the better. Has it changed for you? I was always very appreciative of Nate's Redemption arc the first time around. But even now, I have a better understanding of it.

[01:06:40] And now like, so before watching Nate's Redemption of, you know, joining West Ham, and being like kind of traitor-ish to Ted. And I was angry at Nate because of that. And like, I appreciated the Redemption arc that happens by the end of this series.

[01:06:59] But now I kind of have a better understanding as to why it happened. Okay. Which makes me appreciate it more. And you kind of mentioned it earlier. It's Jade. Jade is a huge part of this. Yes. And I'm realizing now upon the second watch

[01:07:15] how much of a huge part of this she was. Yeah. Because I think upon first watch, she was just nothing more than a girlfriend. But she did it without saying a word. Well, it makes me appreciate Jade more. Yeah. As a character. Oh, 100%.

[01:07:36] And I guess what I mean by that is like, of course, you know, they have their wonderful beautiful relationship. But she's not trying to change Nate. She's not sitting there saying like, you need to do this or you need to do that. She's watching him make these decisions

[01:07:52] and supporting him where she feels she should support him. And that's not done either. That's going to come into play because there's next episode. Yeah. Next episode is a huge episode for Nate. Yeah. I'm excited. International break. It's a huge episode for Danny, too.

[01:08:11] It's a huge episode for Rebecca. Like it's it's there's a lot that happens in international break. I love this next episode coming up. There's a lot that happens in this next episode. Which is good because this isn't my favorite episode of the season. No, that's that.

[01:08:27] And that's totally fine. I think I've pretty much touched on everything that I have. Yeah. I don't think that I mean, the only thing that we didn't talk about was the fact that Jack ghosted Keely. OK, it's over the end.

[01:08:43] Now we kind of I think we kind of knew that the relationship was over. Argentina is worse for having Jack in it. Oh, play it one more time. I didn't have it prepared, but Jack just sucks. Yes. Yeah.

[01:09:01] It's just it's to get the final nail in the coffin is kind of a comfort, you know, for Keely to say like, well, I guess now she is officially my ex. It's like, well, good. Good. Because you're better off to be your girlfriend anyways.

[01:09:16] Yeah. And I love better with Barbara. And I love that. I love that Keely was like, well, now that she is officially officially my ex, feel free to say whatever it is you were holding back on what you didn't

[01:09:28] like about and what you did like about Jack and Higgins jumps in like her grip was too firm. Like he had it ready to go. He's like, I didn't like I didn't like my first impression of her because that's what it was a handshake. Nice to meet you.

[01:09:45] That's your first impression. I didn't like her from the get go. That's basically what he said. First impressions are huge. They're huge. They're so important and they should also be taken with a grain of salt. That too, because it's a paradox. It really is.

[01:10:02] It's a double edged sword. Because you could leave a great first impression and be a total dick. Rupert every other time. Or you could have a horrible first impression, but be a really great person. Jade. Yeah. It's just you're right. It's a double edged sword. Yep.

[01:10:22] Um, so no nothing else about this episode. You and I were great from the get go. Let's just let's get out of the way. OK, the minute I met Ben, I knew we were going to be friends.

[01:10:34] Even before the car ride, I was like, I like this guy. How are we going to be friends? You you trusted a complete stranger. Some guy you had just met that night to give you a 45 minute long car ride back to the house you were staying at.

[01:10:51] Yes. Well, Jason vouching for you was a big deal. That's also. Yeah. That's also. Yeah. Because my husband also was like, you did what? Yeah. But now you're like your husband and I are really good friends. And like, yeah, you guys have your own relationship now.

[01:11:08] I mean, him and I have our own text chain. Right. I'm sure you do. So, you know, it's fine. Like, I, you know, it was just really funny at the beginning days of that, you know? Yeah. Sure. I'll take a ride. It's oh, it's an hour. Cool.

[01:11:25] Linda, click lock in. Tell my husband who is in Africa right now. Oh, that's right. He was deployed. He was super gone. I forgot about that. All right. So then cool. So then with that being said, let's wrap up the main discussion

[01:11:45] and let's talk a little bit about spoilers, which shouldn't take too long. So if you want to skip the spoilers, just check the show notes to find out when they come back in. You made a really good point earlier in how the team is now

[01:11:58] like the audience is now invested in this team and being in the audience and how they feel like they are part of this team. Free ownership. Free ownership. That was the way you put it, which comes into play by the finale because what does Rebecca do? Oh, yeah.

[01:12:17] She sells half of her shares to the team to the fans. They are. They become literal part owners of that team. And that is. And I mean, it all starts, I think with Ted. Ted's comment a few weeks ago where he says it's their team.

[01:12:37] We're just borrowing it for a little bit. I think that sports teams across the board forget about this. Yeah. The fans own the team. There are very few owners in sports that I think really take it to heart.

[01:12:58] What the fans mean, Mark Cuban was number one on my list. I don't like I never liked Mark Cuban just because the Mavericks were such a rival of the Lakers that I just hated Mark Cuban from the moment that I laid eyes on him.

[01:13:17] But now that I'm older and wiser and have had some distance, I love Mark Cuban. He's great. He is he is great when it comes to ownership of the Mavs. He knows what the fans mean to that team. I will even go as far as saying Jeffrey

[01:13:32] Laurie from The Eagles is another one. Jeffrey Laurie has done a ton for the silly Philadelphia and its fans who are fans of the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, the Philadelphia Eagles fans themselves are kind of pieces of shit sometimes. And I'm not saying all of them.

[01:13:47] They do Santa Claus. And they threw rocks at Santa Claus, too. But that's besides the point, besides the point. Jeffrey Laurie as an owner has been very appreciative of the fans and has shown the fans a lot of love and respect.

[01:14:03] And there are other owners out there, too. But you mentioned in Cuban that was he was who was immediately who I was thinking about when I brought it out. That's the gold standard. Yeah. Yeah. And continuing on, since you have nothing for spoilers,

[01:14:18] I'll kind of like continue on with our Nate discussion, too, in that when Nate tells Rupert in Bones and Honey, I have to leave. He's not just talking about Bones and Honey. No, he's not. He's leaving West Ham. And I think Rupert also was like,

[01:14:38] well, you can't leave because you're fired, you know? Like, I mean, it's just the biggest baby on the planet. And what sucks is that we actually get good Rupert next week. Yeah. Next week's episode is one of my favorite moment, Rupert moments. It's the only good Rupert moment.

[01:14:55] The only one that food fight is hysterical. It is. And and seeing that whole story that Rebecca tells about Rupert is amazing. Oh, I forgot it. That's good. So I'll I'll relive it next week.

[01:15:11] Yeah, it's it's great in that food fight and seeing Rupert just kind of like laugh and kind of like be a kid. And it's just it's it's great. There was something real between them at some point. Yes, it wasn't a show marriage.

[01:15:28] Like his like his marriage with Bex is probably very much a surface level marriage. He had something real with Rebecca, which is why he tries to hurt her so much because that with you can't hate if you have no feeling. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good point.

[01:15:48] But next week's episode, I think if I remember correctly, kicks off with the news that Nate is has left West Ham. He is no longer the coach of West Ham. Yeah. So this is a again. He's about to be he's about to be a busboy.

[01:16:07] Yeah, taste of Athens. But I think it's so cute of all places to go to work. It's to work with his girlfriend. I know he's so wholesome. But there's there's some huge key moments of him and his dad next episode too. Moments that have needed to happen.

[01:16:28] Yeah, when do we find out we're still in spoilers? Right. When do we find out that Jamie's dad is in rehab? I don't think that happens until the finale. No, no, no, no, I think it happens at the end of Mom City. OK. I can't. Oh my gosh.

[01:16:49] I don't know. No, no, I don't think it's until the episode. I don't think it's until the finale. OK, because I was just going to say if it was next episode, then that would be a really nice like dad theme that we're coming into,

[01:17:01] you know, since we're going into a mom theme for eleven. It's because it's I think what happens is I think it's in the finale when you see his that moment where his two friends are in the audience and they say, oh, his dad would have been proud.

[01:17:17] And they kind of lead you to believe that his dad passed. Oh, yeah. Mm hmm. That's right. And then and then you see, I think like a senior or two later, he's in rehab and he's watching.

[01:17:29] And then it's at the very end when they're doing the whole montage at the very end of the finale, you see Jamie and his father talking. So I think it's in the finale that you find that that you just kind of that's good.

[01:17:45] That's all I have for spoilers. I don't have anything. All right. So then with that said, we are back to talk about some of our favorite quotes. I only have maybe two or three and one of them. I kind of talked about already.

[01:18:01] And that was the every single one of you knows my asses and Harry. I love that quote so much. I just because he's so he's so hurt by it. He's just like none of you guys, none of you. Yeah, it's great. Um, we're cowards.

[01:18:27] And then who do they say? Now, if she was talking about Richards, but Richard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, I haven't seen 22 dudes have this good a time on grass since I saw the Grateful Dead jamming with the black crows and fish. I bet that was a tight show.

[01:18:46] Oh, it was a mess, but they had fun, but they had fun. Yeah. If any time that my favorite band is mentioned in a show, I get very excited. So the only other quote I have is the song that Ted makes up to Rebecca and Keely.

[01:19:08] Oh, I'm heart bent in my apartment because all that you left was your fart scent. But I like it that Rebecca's like jamming along to it. She's like, they're both moving their head until he says fart scent. And she's like, all right, goodbye, Ted.

[01:19:25] And now that you're gone, I wrote this song because all that was left was the smell of your farts. That's what Ted sing it as he's leaving the room. I love it. I love it so much. Leslie, the press is ready for you, Ted.

[01:19:45] It's a big one, Ted. That's what that lady from the American office said. Which I'm trying to figure out that reference. Because I watched the office. That's what she said. Oh, I thought he meant the big one part. I misread that quote.

[01:20:02] OK. Well, yeah, it's a big one. That's what she said. But when he says like that woman, like that person from the American office, he's referring to I thought he was referring to that's a big one. Yeah, that's what she said.

[01:20:15] Yeah, he was saying that's what she said after it's a big one. It's a big one, like a big dick. That's what she said. But when he says lady from the American office said because he doesn't know that he doesn't know that.

[01:20:28] But when he says that, he's referring to the that's what she said. When he says that, yes. But you know what? We're too far into this. No, because I was saying like I the reason why that quote was funny,

[01:20:42] but I kind of missed it was because when he says as that woman from the American office said, I thought he was referencing the that's a big one. And I'm like, I don't remember anyone in the American office saying that's a big one. Well, that's why I. OK.

[01:21:00] He was referring to that's what she said anyway. I like the little go go ahead. The conversation between Colin and Isaac, but I do like the fact that it was where is it? Shoot, where is it? I lost it. You're welcome, Jill. Yeah, sorry.

[01:21:24] Ah, his top or bottom sex positions are sleeping arrangement, sexual positions, unless bunk beds are involved, both. Would you ever shag a woman? No, I'm gay. I know. But if you had to 1967, Racco or Quo, Raquel Welch, my man, who's the fittest guy on the team?

[01:21:42] I won't tell you and you'd never guess. Bumper catch. Yes. And then I think we already did this showers. And Colin is so surprised that he figured out it was bumper catch. If I had to shower with a bunch of girls all the time, I'd definitely get boners.

[01:22:05] But it's it's so nice and comforting and refreshing to see them back to who we know they are. Yeah. And that closeness and that friendship. It's a good that that's a very open friendship. Yeah. And you know what?

[01:22:21] And I'll be honest with you, like going back a couple of years, like my core group of friends here where I live, I've been friends with them for almost a decade now. And they are very eclectic group, you know, like normal, straight, you know, but like some bisexuals,

[01:22:38] some transsexuals, some gay, some Polly relationships. Like there's a huge like rainbow of different people that are in this core group. But one of the things I love about this group is the fact that like when I was because I had so many just plain vanilla friends

[01:22:57] before I met this group of people. Yeah. And when I started getting incorporated into this group and learning more and more about these people, like one of the things I love about this group is like as I was learning

[01:23:12] any time I had questions, all I had to do was ask. That's awesome. Yeah. Nobody was nobody was offended that I was asking. Nobody was confused that I was asking. It was all I had to do was ask. Yeah. And they were very open about everything.

[01:23:34] I don't have to ask questions anymore, which I love. And if and if nothing else, it has made me a bigger ally because I understand it, you know? So yeah. All right. That takes us then into the feedback section of the podcast, which we do have two voicemails.

[01:23:57] This first one comes from our friend, Alex. So let's play that now. Hey, all Alex Krueger here, leaving feedback for Ted Lasso, Season three, Episode nine, La Lacquer Room, Alphales, I think. So first and foremost, it is absolutely lovely to be back at Richmond,

[01:24:15] isn't it? Before we get to any of the good or bad, let's let's get to the ugly and get that out of the way. Rupert just sucks so much. Did I read this situation correctly? He's flirting the entire time with Jade,

[01:24:27] assumably because he sees sleeping with his sheepish manager's girlfriend to be a dynamic power play. Am I also right in seeing that Jade has expert X-ray vision for bullshit and isn't charmed in the slightest? I like how a lot of this episode was about moving a story forward

[01:24:42] without Ted, to the extent that one of this week's subplots was literally having folks other than Ted doing press conferences as if to say, hey, we want to do a fourth season. We absolutely could. More on that in a moment.

[01:24:55] The other major plotline of Colin and Makadu and the asshole fan and the almost malice in the palace moment was handled so beautifully. I recall upon first watch always figuring Makadu wasn't homophobic and that there was more of a, you didn't tell me piece of it going on.

[01:25:10] And I think the episode stuck the landing. But I really liked focusing on coming out and hiding your true self as a secret that was Collins to share, not a secret that was Isaac's to learn. When it comes to this, if someone doesn't share with you,

[01:25:24] they aren't being deceitful. They're scared and the Macadus of the world will never be able to feel what Colin has felt for all these years. The acting for Makadu in the locker room in the kid room is just sublime, so much so that I should probably

[01:25:37] learn the actor's name. Now, I will now make my case for Ted Lasso season four. I need to see more of Rebecca and Roy being equals and helping each other, whether it's Rebecca's grow up speech

[01:25:48] this week or Roy's don't you dare settle for fine speech from season two? Rebecca's wealth would likely never get in the way and their comedic timing is splendid. Additionally, Jade's been through some shit. She's a loof in all shore, but she's always present and very much with it.

[01:26:03] I want more of Jade's backstory and her history and her relationship with Nate and potentially in the future. Her as a mother, I'm buying all of the Jade stock I can. I'd love to get more moments between players like we get with Isaac and Colin this episode.

[01:26:18] I think you could highlight more players instead of shrinking them into one note characters, which as much as we all love them, a lot of them kind of are one note. Lastly, my pitch for season four is this. Don't screw it up like they did with scrubs.

[01:26:32] Bill Lawrence can finally make up for it this time. He should have never ever made scrub season nine. Instead, he should have done an intentional sequel series called Scrubs Med School, kind of like saved by the Bell to College years, except not crappy.

[01:26:44] Called us AFC Richmond or the Richmond Way, something that keeps it in this universe, but lets it be its own. We the Richmond faithful will find it. And if Apple can justify letting Michael Douglas play Benjamin Franklin, they can do this. That's it for me this week.

[01:26:59] I'd stick around, but I've got nine hot dogs and nine beers and nine innings calling my name. Looking forward to listening to this episode. And as always, until next time. Alex, you can't see it, but Kristen's neck probably hurts

[01:27:14] from all the nodding she was doing to everything you were saying. Full agree, hard send on all of it. I including what did he say at the very end? With which part? Before lock before locker before nine innings and nine hot dogs and nine scrubs.

[01:27:35] Season. No, I don't watch the winning more Jade. Full. Yeah. Jade for sure. I want to see that. I want to see that. I want to see that. I want to see that. Jade for sure. I want all kinds of more Jade.

[01:27:53] I do think that we need a fourth season or a spin off. I don't 100 percent. I'm at a point now where I think we're fine, but I don't want to talk too much about that because we're kind of diving into spoiler.

[01:28:07] Oh, no, that whole voicemail should be prefaced with Don't Listen to It. It's a little late for that now. Well, you could go back and re-record that. But I think it's important. I had a lot of spoilers in there. Not really. Not really.

[01:28:28] But we're I want to say one thing that we didn't mention. It's a really important thing that Colin says to Isaac when Isaac is at his door and he says he says to Isaac, I was 99 percent sure that you would be supportive.

[01:28:47] But that one percent scared the shit out of me. And that goes to show you like just like how like just how important that is. Yeah, like how scary that really is. That one percent can be very scary. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:29:09] It was I'm sorry, it just came back to me. Him saying Michael Douglas playing Ben Franklin. Oh, Ben Franklin. Yeah. That was the dumbest casting I've ever seen. I didn't even want. I love Benjamin Franklin. I love Benjamin Franklin.

[01:29:21] I have wanted a righteous series or movie on Ben Franklin so bad. And you give us Michael Douglas. You and I said that because we watched the trailer for that together. It was ridiculous. It's yeah, I won't watch it. What a dumb casting.

[01:29:40] Like Paul Giamatti was perfect as John Adams. Yeah. Perfect. Why? Why? There are so many actors out there that could play Benjamin Franklin. Well, yeah. Why are we using Ant-Man's Money Man? Hank, Prim, Pym, Pym. Yep. Yep. All right. That takes us to our second piece of feedback,

[01:30:08] which of course is a feedback. I have voicemail from my friends, Steve Brown. Hello, Ben and Christian. This is Steve and this is going to be for Ted Lasso season three. Episode nine. Even Roy's having fun. Fans are watching practice.

[01:30:22] Oh, and things are icy between Colin and Macadoo. Ted K. Keely, 40 quid. Keely and Rebecca's head bobbing as Ted starts to sing his little country song. Heart, lay it in my heart. Oh, this is not going to go good. Roy doing a press conference.

[01:30:41] OK, Rupert being semi nice to Jade and Nathan with their that doesn't seem right. I think Jade suspects something deeper. This press conference devolve into the greatest rock guitarist of all time, Eric Clapton. But it's time for Rebecca to be Rebecca and Rebecca just nailing Roy on his

[01:30:58] problems that get out of your own way, man. Oh, and so Jack is ghosted to Keely and not only that, now Jack is in Argentina for the next couple of months. Oh, that reception between Isaac and Colin. They got to fix this relationship.

[01:31:10] Oh, I forgot what this guy said. Oh, and Isaac going into the crowd. That's not good. As much as Macadoo Isaac was defending Colin there, I understand. But doesn't a red card mean he's he's dejected from this game and the next game? Match the time for jokes.

[01:31:27] Read the room, Leslie Sam flipping off Jamie. No, I'm not giving you the captain band. Oh, great speech, Ted. Great speech to Colin and the team. Oh, so he came out to the team. But what about Isaac? Oh, and Nathan missed out on his chance to go

[01:31:42] out with the rest of the coaches and the team to go with Rupert. Oh, Nathan, you have a decision to make. What do you decide? Go with Rupert and the two ladies or your girlfriend. And he makes the right choice and he leaves.

[01:31:56] You never talk about a streak about a streak ever in sports. Oh, Roy give him the press conference and doing well. Wow. Oh, this is a great scene between Isaac and Colin. Wow. And the team knows him as all that matters. But he can't say he loves him.

[01:32:11] But he does. Oh, all right. Welcome back, revisited. Here we go. The run to the rest of the season, the series. Thanks, Steve. Now, wonderful. Thank you. I looked it up because I was curious as well. Red cards with some suspensions as minimal as one game,

[01:32:30] but more severe ones can result in a ban of three matches. So it's all dependent on how severe the the infraction is. So I think this one was just for one game. Well, yeah, especially when the fan got thrown out of the game. Yeah.

[01:32:48] Yeah. So yeah, I think this is just the remainder of the match. One thing about Richmond is that they will close their wagons around their staff so hard and so fast. They will not leave anybody out to dry. That's rare. Well, I mean, look at that.

[01:33:07] I mean, look at the influence that Roy had. Roy basically just had to say get him out of here. And he was gone. Oh, he was gone. Yeah. He's Roy Kent. He's here. He's there. He's every fucking way. Roy Kent, Roy Kent, which I can't wait until September

[01:33:25] because that is when they release the funko pop of Roy riding a bike. Yeah. And I already preordered it. I already preordered it. November. No, I think September is when they released November is our birthday month. I know. No, I already preordered it.

[01:33:46] And if I could find Scorpios, right? Yep. Of course. And if I can find a way to do it, I'm going to put it on a pedestal that just plays. When you press the button and then it has to shake back and forth.

[01:34:00] Or if you could just push a button and it just falls to the side. If I could find a way to do it, I'm going to do it. It's see, it needs to be a double funko, though,

[01:34:13] because it's not right unless Jamie is jumping in the background with his arms up. I think we I think I've mentioned this on the podcast, but I haven't. Oh, no, no, I mentioned it to you when you were here, when you were here with your kids.

[01:34:30] I have those that funko pop set that is six different pieces. But when you put it all together, it forms like the mosaic because I have all the Avengers eating shawarma. Oh, yeah, yeah, Avengers. I would love to see something like that for Ted Lasso.

[01:34:46] I just don't know what it would be. Maybe the Richmond locker room. Where it's a player sitting around the bench of what it would be, but it's not for this conversation. Gotcha. OK. Yeah. Oh, no, I think I know what it is about. Yep. That would.

[01:35:02] Oh, man. That would be awesome. Right. I would buy in the heartbeat. Everybody would. Yeah. Um, all right. So thank you again as always for the feedback. If you want to leave feedback for this episode or any other episode in the

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[01:35:33] So you have to still have a little bit of time to to get that feedback in for remainder of the episodes. Recommendations before we get out. I know you have one. I have two if I can have two. Yeah, we were making up some time.

[01:35:52] OK. The first one I have, Ben and I were talking about it earlier. So Ben and I are in our mid forties. We both grew up with with Eminem. He is, you know, a part of our identity just as much as he is a part

[01:36:10] of anybody that is our age, which is identity. He just came out with a new album, The Death of Slim Shady. And I got into my car. I had a pretty long drive ahead of me.

[01:36:21] I was all by myself and I just pressed play and I listened to it from beginning to end. And I can tell you this is his best album he's ever made. It is in true Eminem form. He goes after everybody, including himself.

[01:36:38] And he takes you on this emotional roller coaster in the back half of the album that I was in my car sobbing for, I think, two straight songs. So I mean, I highly recommend it.

[01:36:50] And if you do listen to it, please listen to it in one sitting from beginning to end. We've most of us have heard the Houdini song. It's a great song, but it's a fantastic album. And I really I highly recommend it. I will.

[01:37:05] Reflect on gave it two stars. Is that good or bad? Best Rolling Stone just proves that they are out of touch. Oh, oh, so bad. Oh, yeah, because they're out of five. Yeah. I will actually throw out another album out there, too, making a musical recommendation myself.

[01:37:24] Because it's another it's another new album that released in the time we were out. And I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but what I've heard, I've enjoyed. I know you're not a huge fan of this person, but Childish Gambino just finally released his final album.

[01:37:39] Bandostone and the new you want it. Yeah, Bandostone and the New World. And there's a movie coming out, too. That's kind of in relation to it. But the tracks I've heard I've loved. I love Donald Glover. I love Childish Gambino.

[01:37:52] So that's I'm going to say the same thing, just the same as your Eminem recommendation. Yeah, I'm going to recommend checking up Bandostone and the New World, because I just like Childish Gambino. And I'm happy that he finally dropped a new album.

[01:38:07] And it's going to be the last. Because he's retired. Yeah, he's retiring. The Childish Gambino. He also said he has three kids and, you know, he's can't give all of himself to being a father

[01:38:24] while trying to also make music and trying to do other things and stuff like that. Well, because I think he wants to get back in acting again, too. Well, he's a he's a better actor. I know your opinion on Childish Gambino.

[01:38:37] I just don't think that it's as, you know, cutting it just everybody thinks it is. But that's just me. I just love the minority and I know that. I just love the relation of pop culture references in in hip hop,

[01:38:51] which he is great at, especially his first couple of albums. He was really he kind of got away from it and leaned more into becoming like a legitimate hip hop rapper towards like the later albums. And Bandostone is another one that's kind of like that.

[01:39:04] But his earlier albums, like it's nothing but like pop culture. Like it's it's if a nerd knew how to rap, which I love it because like Star Wars references. And like I love his earlier albums, too. What's your what's your other recommendation? My other recommendation is to.

[01:39:28] I can't believe I'm saying this is to check out House of the Dragon. Season two is nowhere near as good as season one, in my opinion. But they're laying some pretty solid episodes. I had the chance to guest on House of the Dragon a couple of weeks ago.

[01:39:47] So I had to binge five episodes in 24 hours. It was a lot of it was a lot of Targaryen, but. But you know what? Being in the story for that long, I watched the most recent episode

[01:40:03] this past week and I didn't find it nearly as engaging as when I binged the whole thing. So I would say even maybe wait until the end of the end of the season and binge it because that's what I'm doing.

[01:40:15] Thoroughly enjoyed the first five episodes and the sixth episode just kind of fell flat for me when I watched it on its own. I'm waiting for the season end and then I'm going to binge it. Yeah, you know, but it wasn't.

[01:40:27] As depressing as I thought it was going to be. OK, still depressing. It's Game of Thrones. I mean, right? It's it's going to be it's Westeros. I will make about you. I'm going to make two, two quick ones. Because one of them I can't talk too highly about.

[01:40:53] I saw Deadpool Wolverine and it's amazing if you're a Marvel fan, go see it, especially if you like Deadpool and Wolverine or Wolverine just it's it's so much fun. But it's OK if you don't like the Deadpool movies, guys, it's OK. Because Kristen doesn't like the Deadpool movies.

[01:41:10] OK, you are OK. But a movie I will recommend, though, that is available now to stream is one I got a chance to see a screening of and really ended up liking it much more than I thought I was going to. And that's The Bike Riders,

[01:41:29] which is the movie with a bit. Oh, you really? Really? Austin Butler and Tom Hardy and and Jody Comer. I'm not a huge Tom Hardy fan. I am. He is fucking phenomenal in this movie. As he is in Peaky Blinders, he's a good actor, Ben.

[01:41:47] Norman Reedus is also in this movie. Oh, oh, then I do know what you're talking about. I do know the movie you're talking about. Yeah, Michael Shannon. Yeah, I was really blown away by how are they characters or is it like? It's based on a true story.

[01:42:05] OK, so they are playing characters. It's not like Norman Reedus's ride where he's just going to ride around and the no, no, yes. It's not like that. The names have changed. But the funny thing is, too, that like I told my mom about the movie.

[01:42:20] My mom's boyfriend is a is a biker. I know a lot of bikers. They get a real heavy stigma for being a certain kind of person and they're really not. But because my mom's boyfriend is a biker and my mom knows a lot of bikers,

[01:42:36] she knows a lot about previous culture for bikers, like the good gangs, the bad gangs, things like that. And it's so funny because when they watched the movie, she pointed out it specifically Norman Reedus's character and she's like, I'm pretty sure I know who that character is referencing.

[01:42:54] Oh, OK. So. But my mom, because my mom and her boyfriend are bikers, they watched it and they really enjoyed it as well. So it's pretty it pretty good. It pretty it does a great job of kind of nailing that. And that's in theaters, that culture.

[01:43:09] No, it's out for streaming now. Oh, OK. Yeah, it's available to stream now. Yeah, that's my other recommendation. Nice. So next episode, a season three, episode 10, international break. Great episode. There's going to be so much to talk about for this great episode. I love being back.

[01:43:31] I miss this. Me too. I miss this so much. We're going to be taking another short break once we're done with Ted Lasso before we come back with the good place. But that's just basically so Kristen can gear up getting ready to go back to school.

[01:43:49] I got I have to do some travel for another show out in Colorado. And we want to prepare ourselves for the good place. So it was nice to take a couple of weeks break in between shows.

[01:43:59] Yeah, to not just jump right in the Ted Lasso into a good place. We kind of want to let it settle a little bit and then go into it. So once we're done with Lasso, we'll take another couple of weeks

[01:44:09] and then we'll return after Labor Day for that with a new season. But before we head out, obviously, we want to make mentions of podcastica, which is that we share this podcast with them. You mentioned House of the Dragon is in full swing talking about,

[01:44:24] you know, how the current season, House of the Dragon. Rima and Paik just wrapped up. I don't know if they're wrapped up their coverage of Sweet Tooth yet or not. They might still be in it.

[01:44:34] But they're incredibly happy because News just came out of Comic Con this past weekend that not only is the Dexter prequel series happening in which. The spin off. The in which Michael. Michael Hall, Michael Seahall is doing the narration for that prequel series, much like Sheldon.

[01:44:55] But there is another Dexter spin off happening with him returning as the character of Dexter. No way. He has to be returning as the ghost for his son, then like his dad showed up for him. You know what I mean? No, no, he's dead now. He's dead now.

[01:45:12] No, no, I don't know how they're going to do it. But you know what? They rebooted it. I thought it was going to go into a direction. They decided just to. Crap the bed. I was invested in Newblood. I was. I don't know why it was so short.

[01:45:31] Well, because it was limited series. It was always meant to be limited series from the beginning. But again, Daphne and Pake are incredibly excited because they cover the Dexter series on on Strange and Deed. So they're excited that they have some new stuff. Daphne. Reamon.

[01:45:46] Reamon. Yeah. Daphne and Pake. I've run for your lives still going right now. And then, of course, on my end of things, Wilhelm is going to be returning with new episodes this September, which means more movie swaps for Kristen and I to do.

[01:46:01] More top five episodes, more celebrity interviews, more panel audio. There's so much more coming. And that's going to be returning just after Labor Day when we kick off things with Revisited as well. So WilhelmPodcast.com is where you can go to check that out.

[01:46:15] Or I have a new domain for Wilhelm, too, that you can also use, which is just welcome to Wilhelm.com. Oh, I like it. Like welcome to Ruxham. Well, that's so anybody who's listened to Wilhelm, that's how I always start every episode is welcome to Wilhelm.

[01:46:32] Welcome to Wilhelm. Very nice. So now, welcome to Wilhelm.com will also take you to the website. Very nice. The the the Patreon is going to be launching with the new season. There's going to be merch launching with the new season.

[01:46:46] I'm going bigger than ever with Wilhelm and I'm good. Incredibly excited, especially working with this new con circuit and all the content I'll be able to get from that is going to be huge, incorporate hugely incorporated into into the podcast and they want me.

[01:47:04] They want me to incorporate Wilhelm into the podcast, which is wonderful. So important to me and why I love working for this company. That's wonderful. And then, of course, podcast.com is where you can go to check out all that other stuff.

[01:47:19] Any final notes from you before we wrap things up? Now, just take care of each other. Take care of yourselves. We're going into a very dicey part of the year if you're an American and just just hold on. Yeah, we'll get through it.

[01:47:38] Yep. One way or another, we will get through it. The biggest part is getting through it together. That's that's just it. So with that being said, I thank you as always for being a part of this whole journey, whether it's the past or the upcoming future.

[01:47:54] I thank you for listening, subscribing, telling your friends, checking out all the other podcasts we mentioned. But until next time, we'll see you guys back out on the pitch. Take care. Namaste.