Episode 139: TED LASSO S03E10 "International Break"

[00:00:00] Happy Uncle Day! You know it's not a real holiday, right? Yes it is. Right Mummy? Any day that noise Roy, holiday from me. I'll get it. Fee told me that Uncle's Day is her favourite holiday of the year. Fuck off!

[00:00:34] Yes, seriously. It was Uncle's Day, Uncle Roy's birthday and then Purton Lofton, the German holiday where people dress up as evil spirits and roam the streets in order to scare winter away. She might be an old sub but she's a proper fucking dweeb isn't she?

[00:00:49] So what's up your range, Rob? How's that? No, it's my mum. Alright, alright. Hey, how you doing? Sorry I'm late. Oh it's okay. You can just sit down next to Uncle Roy. Hello Uncle Roy. What the fuck is he doing here? I had to invite your best friend.

[00:01:04] He's not my best friend. Well you talk about him a lot and you spend every day together. Well he's not. So who's your best friend Jamie? Probably Isaac. Fuck off! He is. That's Pound Dog, Cory. Bill me. Huh? No open Jamie's gift. It's stupid. It's dumb.

[00:01:29] I don't know. You can... It's your original England kit from the 2014 World Cup. Your name's on the back of that thing. I got him to change the E to a U. I love it. Yeah you owe me a pound Jamie. Why haven't you seen off him?

[00:02:10] No, but you made me think it and that's basically the same thing. Yeah fair play. Welcome to another episode of the Revisited Podcast. I'm Ben. And I'm Kristen. This week we are revisiting Ted Lasso's Season 3 Episode 10 International Break. One of the best episodes of the series.

[00:03:04] These last three episodes are phenomenal episodes. We... This episode alone is just... There's so much in this episode. Mom City, the penultimate episode is great and the finale is just... It's the finale. I mean... Yeah. Come on. It's... This episode I cried so much.

[00:03:35] Like I just couldn't stop crying. I was doing the kind of crying where like your whole body is shaking. You know? Like there are moments of the episode where I was inside of my brain going get it together. Kristen, Kristen get it together. You know what's weird is...

[00:03:52] So we've talked about this before. I do two rewatches anytime we podcast. I watch once to just kind of remind myself what the episode is and then I rewatch again usually before the morning we record. So I watched it again earlier this morning as did you.

[00:04:09] And it's my note taking session. I cried both times at different points. Yeah. Like I cried at some moments last night when I watched it and then when I rewatched it this morning, I still got emotional at those moments but I ended up crying one or two

[00:04:27] scenes that I didn't cry in last night. It's weird. You know what's strange is... Excuse me. Is that I didn't really remember a lot of this episode. Like there are certain parts of the episode that I thought were in different episodes

[00:04:48] and they were all together in this one episode. And I really feel like there was this underlying theme of just healing and restoring and I was struck with how similar Nate and Keely's journeys have been. I have it in my notes.

[00:05:11] I have Keely and Nate's stories are very comparable in this. Okay, so first of all before we get started because I think we both want to talk about this episode a lot. And I think that we should start with the subject.

[00:05:28] Just for anybody that is coming onto us for the first time in season three, episode 10, we are a spoiler free podcast. However, we do have a section of spoilers at the end. You can check the show notes and we will let you know where and when to skip.

[00:05:49] This is the first time I've done this announcement. So how did it go? Did I do okay? Yeah. I had a big smile on my face while you were doing it. About halfway through I go, what else does he say?

[00:06:05] I want to interrupt you real quick before you go into your start this. I'm sure I missed something. No, no, no. It has nothing to do with that actually. It's just kind of, I want to take a step back because you mentioned one word

[00:06:16] that kind of sums up this entire episode, which you said healing. It's funny because I actually have one word that sums up this episode as well. And that's growth. Interesting. So, please continue. Well, and that's very interesting that you say that because when Keely has

[00:06:34] that amazing conversation with May, she says, you know, shit makes things grow. And, you know, before we get to Nate and Keely, looking at Keely and what she's been through and how she feels like everything she touches is toxic. That is something that I identify with big time.

[00:07:00] That's something that I struggle with big time. And so that watching Keely's entire journey in this episode alone, just this one episode and her talk with May and her talk with Rebecca, it struck a very raw nerve on my heart this week.

[00:07:21] So, you know, I feel a little raw just by watching this episode. But when you look at Keely and Nate, you know, I get, we're both, both of these characters are characters that for me personally, I was really disappointed in this season.

[00:07:42] And they made some really questionable decisions. They made some bad moves. They were really naive in their thinking. And it seems that by episode 10, which is where we are, they've really come to terms with not only what has happened to them,

[00:08:00] but their role in what's happened to them. And they seem to be on a path where they're trying to get back to where they used to be.

[00:08:11] And a big moment of growth that we see in Nate is when he low key goes in and he sets up the locker room for Will. And that touch of lavender on the card was beautiful and perfect, you know?

[00:08:29] You see Keely and Keely invites Barbara back into her company, gratefully. And you see that that's a restorative and healing process for both of those characters to grow from. So I love the fact that we're seeing two very different characters go on very similar journeys,

[00:08:52] but come to very different outcomes almost. Well, I want to add to that too in saying that these are two characters that in this particular moment of their stories. These are two characters that have really been stripped down to kind of bare necessities.

[00:09:14] Nate no longer has West Ham. He still has Jade. He still has somebody in his life. Who's going to pull into screw in Leipold? I'm sorry, go on. No, it's fine. And God, that's such a it's oh my God. And he missed it.

[00:09:36] It's such an old school joke that like it just even even watching that scene for the first time like you're kind of like, did they just reference what I think they referenced?

[00:09:52] And for those of you who might be listening, who may not even have a clue what we're talking about. There's the old. Oh God, we're going back to when I was in elementary.

[00:10:03] This has been a joke that's been around forever of the how many Polish people doesn't take to screw in a light bulb. And that's the joke that they're kind of referencing. And I and I loved it. But, you know, going back to my point, like we have.

[00:10:18] We have Jade who is still in Nate's life. We have Rebecca who was still in Keely's life. So they do, they're not without completely, but they have been stripped down. Keely no longer has KJPR. Nate no longer has West Ham United.

[00:10:33] They are both kind of at their bare minimum of what they have. And it's interesting to see them kind of how they take those moments and kind of build from them.

[00:10:47] And it's what happens in life a lot is sometimes you have to be taken down to your purest form in order to realize where to go next. And that's exactly what happens with these two people.

[00:11:01] Yeah, I think you make a really good point when you talk about Jade and Rebecca, Nate having Jade and Keely having Rebecca. Both of their best friends slash closest people to them. Partners. Both. Well, I mean, yeah, okay. They're gone this episode. Yeah.

[00:11:22] Keely's ignoring Rebecca because Rebecca's got her own thing going on. And I think Keely knew that Rebecca has her own thing going on because Keely's always been very aware of her surroundings.

[00:11:33] Jade's out of town because if Jade was in town, Nate would have just tried to lean on her. So it's good, I think that both of them went through this transformative process without their anchors. Mm-hmm. They... That's what makes you strong.

[00:11:53] Well, and on top of that too, when you look at these people that they have in their lives with Keely, with Rebecca and Nate with Jade,

[00:12:00] these are also two people who know their friends or partners well enough to know that they can handle these situations on their own. We talked about it earlier on about how Rebecca let Keely kind of go off on her own to start KJPR because she needed to learn.

[00:12:18] She needed to make mistakes. She needed to figure this out. And that's exactly what happened because by the end of this episode when Rebecca says like, no, like I'm now going to give you the money.

[00:12:30] It's not because she's gifting this to Keely for the sake of gifting it to her. She's gifting this to Keely because she now knows already Keely has learned and Keely knows what to do. Like she has seen what Keely can do now.

[00:12:46] So now she's okay giving it to her. Like she knows the lessons Keely has learned. The same kind of goes with Jade. Jade is okay in leaving Nate because she knows Nate well enough to know Nate will figure this out.

[00:13:01] And it makes Jade and Rebecca, I mean, we never needed to know anything more about Rebecca because we already love Rebecca. But I love, this makes me love Jade more because this makes me realize even more this is the perfect person for Nate. Yeah.

[00:13:20] She lets, she knows that Nate needs to get out of his own way right now. Yeah. And he's never going to do it if I'm here.

[00:13:28] And if she had been there would he have made such, would he have made the progress that he made with the relationship that he has with his father? No. Absolutely not. Because like the situation on Nate wanted attention. That's really what it was. Yeah.

[00:13:50] He stayed in bed while he was home because Jade was there. He had attention from Jade. When Jade left, what did he do? He left. Yeah. He went to the only other place he knew he was going to get attention.

[00:14:03] The attention was from his mother and he knew that. But what comes out of it is the, is the fixing of the fractured relationship of his father with his father. I don't think that Nate wanted attention. I think that Nate wanted to rest.

[00:14:19] You know, I moved back home when I was 27 years old after a series of pretty epic failures. And there's something about going home. There's something about letting your parents take care of you. There's something about going back to zero. You know? Yeah.

[00:14:43] Nate needed to go back to zero. He needed to go back to where he felt safest last. And that's at home. I mean, at his house, at his current residence, he's got reporters that won't leave him alone. He becomes a prisoner of his own home.

[00:15:01] So how can he get the support that he needs and not have people down his back shouting his name and waiting for him to peek out through the window or something like that, you know? Yeah. So he went home, he snuck in through the back.

[00:15:16] It's interesting to me that he said you moved your key because I would have said I didn't want reporters to see me or something like that, right? I thought that he went in through the back window because maybe there was a reporter camped out at the front. Okay.

[00:15:33] You know, I don't know, but that's because I think paparazzi are crazy. Oh yeah, 100%. Especially in England. RIP, Princess Diana. That was an inside job, but we won't talk about that. Next on Conspiracy Theory with Ben and Kristen.

[00:15:54] So you know, I think that there's something to be said for Nate's decision to go home to go his mother just feeding him food with this dumb smile on her face the whole episode. She's like, my baby's home. I'm going to cook my food.

[00:16:09] I was just going to say like her baby is home. Like that's, she's happy. Right. But like as a mom too, if my kids are in trouble, no matter how old they are, I want them to come home.

[00:16:21] I want them to feel like they can come home and reset and rest and find that peace with me, you know? And to know that I think most mothers feel this way. I'm not going to say all, but I would say most mothers feel this way.

[00:16:37] So Nate's mom kind of got what every mother has ever wanted. My baby came home because he was sad and he wanted his mom. That would fill my heart with purpose and love, you know? And then you see that it has the same effect on Nate's dad.

[00:16:57] And oh my gosh, what a beautiful conversation between the two of them. I was sobbing again. No, I have no notes on that scene by the way. That whole scene with Nate playing the violin and how it perfectly melds in with Rebecca talking

[00:17:13] to the other team owners, which we will definitely talk about. But leading to that moment where his father is in the room and his father is listening as Nate's back to him and then he turns around and you get like the boat in the

[00:17:27] bow pole and like it scares the hell out of Nate. But you're right. That whole conversation. And here's my question to you because I don't know. I'm not a parent. So it's a matter of really, I think a parent's perspective in this is when his father tells

[00:17:41] him like you are a genius. I didn't know how to handle that. Is this a matter of Nate is legitimately a genius child, which is where I lean or is this that every parent wants to look at their child as a genius because of their smarts?

[00:18:01] No, because they have. That's a great question, first of all. Because as a teacher, every parent thinks that their child is a genius and every parent is wrong. But there are a number of different things with Nate that kind of show maybe he is like a legit genius.

[00:18:28] I think he is. I mean, he played the violin beautifully probably. He thinks differently about the game. We've seen that since season one. He is an observer. Most people who are observers, they are smarter.

[00:18:48] I mean, I've just kind of come to learn that when you observe the world and you don't try and control the world or control your narrative and you've taken the information, you can think differently than other people. You will think differently than other people.

[00:19:03] But we also don't know much about Nate's upbringing. And I'm sure that he is a genius. I think that there is a very real possibility that his dad just made all sorts of mistakes because he was just like he's so smart. I don't know how to do this.

[00:19:22] And I can see that how that can be something that is intimidating. It is when there's something different about your child that you don't know how to handle or maybe you have trouble understanding. It's an intimidation factor and you may or may not react appropriately

[00:19:42] when it comes to that situation. So, yeah, there is a part of me that after that conversation, especially after the second launch where in my head I'm like, I think Nathan is legitimately, I mean, we've already known for a while he's incredibly smart.

[00:19:57] And I think it's we're kind of coming to the realization that he is much smarter than we even understand him to be because I think he really probably does have a genius IQ. I'm sure he does, which is why he's not good socially.

[00:20:13] That also I think plays into it as well. And I also think that something that could come of it is the matter of when his father tells him like you're a genius and I don't know how to,

[00:20:23] I didn't know how to understand that or I did not have how to handle that. You know, we see in that situation and from what we've seen before that it kind of undermined Nate's intelligence a little bit

[00:20:36] because he said he didn't want to play the violin because he thought it was a burden to his father. It kind of held them back a little bit. Maybe there's a part of Nate that Nate doesn't even really realize

[00:20:46] how much of a genius he really is because of being held back. That's entirely possible. That's entirely possible. So going back to something that you said earlier about like how you first saw Nate storyline and Keely storyline upon season three

[00:21:06] and how there were disappointments about it after this episode of Episode 10 seeing everything we saw from that happened with Nate and everything that happened this episode with Keely, which there's more to talk about with Keely. We're focusing on Nate right now but,

[00:21:21] and we talked about this a little bit last Episode two, where have your views changed when it comes to these two characters in the season? That's a really good question. With Nate, I think that it's, I'm so glad that I have been able to do this rewatch because

[00:21:47] and analyze it the way that we have because I have turned my opinion on Nate completely around. I think that we all make really, really big mistakes in our lives and we destroy our lives at times because we can't destroy ourselves. And I am enjoying seeing Nate

[00:22:16] put himself back together. I think the first time that we watched this show, we are so hurt because we believe as watchers of the show, as viewers of the show that this is our team, that we're on this team. We work at Richmond.

[00:22:33] What Nate did, he did to us. We are Coach Beard for sure. I was just going to say upon first view of this season we are Beard. We look at Nate the way Beard does. Yeah. Second view of the season, I'm going the lasso way.

[00:22:48] And I'm so happy for it because it means that, not only have I learned things and I've grown or whatever, but it means that the show is rewatchable from here on out. I don't have to skip parts of season three. As far as Keely goes, man,

[00:23:08] I think Keely is still on her restorative journey. She makes the rash decision to lead Roy back into her room, but we don't know if that means that they're together or not. It just means that he wrote her a sweet letter and she's like, let's go.

[00:23:28] We don't know how that's going to, what the fallout of that is going to be. Keely I think, Keely is taking this probably a little harder than Nate because Nate's always been hard on himself. He's always been insecure. He's always thought that he isn't worth anything.

[00:23:46] Keely is quite the opposite. She has nothing but self-confidence. She has always been very sure about herself. She's been sure about, like she's so sure about herself, her office and her home space and everything exudes her personality and she has wonderful advice for anybody

[00:24:07] that comes to talk to her and she's so evolved. But Jack has broken her down. Jack has completely shaken every confident bone in her body and when you're taken down to the quick, like I think Keely has,

[00:24:26] I think it's going to take longer for her to come back. We've watched Nate come back for several episodes now. This just happened to Keely and I think it's going to take her a little longer. We know it is going to probably take her a little longer

[00:24:42] because we've seen the whole show. But she's on the right path and she's got the right, she's back with Rebecca. She's back with open communication with Roy. She's making her own rules now. She's got Barbara who's there by choice. That's wonderful. She's got all these good things

[00:25:01] and she's ready to start making good decisions moving forward. I think that we see Nate and he's a little bit further along than she is. What do you think about that? No, I agree with that. Nate is further along than Keely is

[00:25:17] only because of the fact that Nate has been dealing with this for longer as you kind of mentioned. As far as Keely goes, you mentioned how sure of herself she is and that's something that we've always known about Keely since season one.

[00:25:33] But we're finding out that there can be a negativity to that because she's so sure of herself in how good she is talking to people and helping people. But when somebody shines a negative light on yourself or makes you think something negative about yourself,

[00:25:50] now you can become so sure in yourself that those things are true as well. And we're kind of seeing that in the bar with May she says like, what's the opposite of the Midas touch where everything you do, everything you touch turns to shit.

[00:26:06] And we're seeing that now she has been instilled because of Jack and Jack's... I don't even have words for it. But because of Jack, she's now been instilled with this negativity about herself that now that's something she's so sure of. She was in an abusive, manipulative relationship.

[00:26:30] Of the emotional sort which is worse. Which arguably can be... I'm not taking anything away from a physically abusive but an emotionally abusive relationship is just as bad if not worse sometimes. Well those scars are not physical. They're not physical scars that can heal. Emotional scars are deep

[00:26:51] and they take a long time to repair. And they also cannot be seen either. Which means sometimes you don't get the help you need. Absolutely, 100%. I like it that when Jack finally texts Keely's just like, fuck off. Yeah, she's beyond it at this point.

[00:27:14] Well she was also super drunk too when it finally happened. Yes. But going back to my point is she's now so sure that everything she touches fails. KJPR has failed. Her relationship with Jack has failed. Her relationship with Roy. With Roy has failed. The relationship with Jamie failed.

[00:27:35] Everything she has done up until this point feels like a failure to her now because her viewpoint has been shifted and now that's how she sees everything. But I love, and we talk about those emotional moments that kind of make you cry,

[00:27:49] I love the fact that the person who steps up and kind of begins to pull her out of this isn't Rebecca. It's Roy. Oh yeah, I thought you were going to say it was Barbara. I think Barbara is wonderful in this episode. I've been saying for episodes now

[00:28:07] how much I love Barbara as a character. And this episode here really kind of, you know, puts a really good spotlight on that too. I mean, maybe you're right. Maybe it isn't Roy. Maybe Barbara is kind of the first step in that. It is.

[00:28:27] I just love the back and forth about paying for the snow globe. I love the fact that like, and looking at things from Barbara's perspective too, like not just Keely's, like it's one thing to see Keely's viewpoint of Barbara in that Barbara has been there through everything.

[00:28:44] She's the first person, you know, she's one of the first people she meets when KJPR starts and when KJPR ends, Barbara's the last person there. Like first in, last out. Like that shows dedication to Keely that, you know, dedication that Barbara has.

[00:29:00] And, you know, in a sense it is just Barbara's mentality that when she takes a job, that's what she does. She's dedicated to that job. But looking at it from Barbara's perspective, this is probably the first time Barbara has ever had anybody

[00:29:14] look at Barbara as more than just an employee or a co-worker. This is the first time somebody is seeing Barbara as a person. Well, when she says you're really fun. Yeah. Like nobody, it's very clear nobody has ever said that to Barbara before.

[00:29:34] Can I just say real quick too, I love the fact that she's wearing a jumpsuit with like juicy on the ass. And she says, I just like close that are truthful. I did too. I did too.

[00:29:50] It made me want to go out and buy a juicy couture suit immediately. Immediately. There was a part of me that when I first watched this episode, it was like, is she wearing like sh- It was so not Barbara. It was so not Barbara. Yeah.

[00:30:08] There's a part of me that was like, oh, like this is just stuff that like Shandy left behind before she left. And then no, this is legitimately Barbara's clothing. This is what Barbara wears when she's not working.

[00:30:18] But yeah, like seeing, you know, so much so to the point where when, you know, KJPR gets a jumpstart from Rebecca, Barbara walks back in the office and says, I can't accept this snow globe because I only take it. I only get them when I leave a job.

[00:30:36] I've left Jack's employment and I'm willing to come back if you'll take me. That's a huge, you can, like that's something I don't think Barbara has ever done before. No, and just goes where she's told to. Right. This is the first time Barbara has gone where she wanted.

[00:30:54] And I think that Keeley gave her that kind of confidence to feel like she could do it because Keeley makes everybody better and she makes everybody better around her at the cost of herself. And while she did have the time with Rebecca

[00:31:10] and she did have the time with Roy all before Barbara came back, Barbara is somebody that hated Keeley from the very beginning. Barbara is somebody that Keeley could not figure out how to bring into her world. Right. And now at her lowest moment in her career,

[00:31:34] Barbara sees Keeley as someone inspiring enough to leave behind her stable job with Jack and join her. And this gives Keeley her confidence back, I think. Well, I want to, I kind of want to disagree with you on one point. Please do.

[00:31:56] When you say like this is the lowest point in Barbara's career, I don't think that's the case at all. I think this is just another, because we know that Barbara has this huge snow globe collection and she only buys them when she leaves a job.

[00:32:08] This is just part of the course for Barbara. Like moving, leaving KJPR, she's on to wherever like Jack's company tells her to go next or wherever she's told to go next. This is no different than any other move she's made.

[00:32:21] Like she's used to going from place to place to place, but there's something about Keeley that makes her want to make this change. She doesn't want to do that pattern. She doesn't want to follow the pattern anymore. She's finally, she's finally somewhere where somebody sees her

[00:32:39] as more than just an employee. Right. She sees her as a person, as somebody worth being around. I mean, when we see Barbara throughout the season and she's laughing at Jack's jokes and being really weird at the game and oh, Jack you're so funny.

[00:32:56] She doesn't have to do any of that with Keeley. She could just look at Keeley and be like, you are ridiculous and I hate you. And Keeley's like, I love you though. So that's all that matters, you know.

[00:33:07] And that just like the only point I was disagreeing with you. Yeah. The only point I was disagreeing with you on was when you said this is the lowest point in Barbara's career. I don't think that's the case at all.

[00:33:17] I'm sorry. I meant the lowest point in Keeley's career. Oh, I mistook that as as Barbara's career. Totally fine. No, at the lowest point in Keeley's career. Gosh. Where she's sitting there in her empty office and she's turning off the KJPR lamp and she's sitting there packing up

[00:33:33] or doing whatever it is that she's doing. I don't remember because I was crying. Hard to see through all those watery eyes. Really is. And you know, Barbara comes through and she pulls out that snow globe to give back to her.

[00:33:47] I mean, even if you've never seen the show before you know what's coming. Well, and I think that's the point that I'm going to make. Well, and you know, I talk about, you know, at the top of the episode where I mentioned

[00:33:59] the one word that explains this episode is growth. You know, we see it like we obviously we talk about the growth in Nate. We talk about the growth in Keeley. There are so many other characters in this episode that show growth even if it's just the smallest amount.

[00:34:15] Every single almost every single character shows a little bit of my new growth. Everybody has grown. Yeah. The only person in this episode who doesn't show any growth is Ted and that's because his is coming next episode.

[00:34:32] Um, yeah, I thought I what I have to say about Ted is actually specific to spoilers. Like everything I have to say about Ted is very specific to spoilers. So I'm actually going to put a pin in all of that. Okay.

[00:34:47] Oh, I wasn't I wasn't jumping into Ted conversation. Oh, no, no, no, I know. There really is no Ted conversation. I almost answered you in what I wanted to talk about, but I was like, oh, I got to save it. Um, I do while we're still on Keeley,

[00:35:00] I do want to talk about that conversation with May and Keeley. Okay. First of all, is this the first time we've seen May with makeup on? She is all kinds of done up. They put blush on her. They put eye makeup on her. I didn't really pay attention.

[00:35:18] Wow. This is the most done up I've ever seen May. Um, but she said something that I thought was really wonderful when she said, when you get to the top of the mountain, there's nothing left but lightning and it depends on if you're ready for it or not.

[00:35:32] That lightning has struck Nate and Keeley in this episode and it's keeping Keeley down a little bit right now, but it has ignited Nate. Nate has been ignited to fix his destructive path in this coming of age journey that he's had.

[00:35:58] And the first thing he does is he makes, is he reconciles what he did to Will, which tells me that at the heart of it all, he's still a kit man. Oh yeah. I mean, he's got, he knows that he did Will wrong.

[00:36:18] And that was the first person that he did wrong. The minute Will was hired, he started treating Will like shit. So Nate has gone to the very beginning of his destructive path. He didn't start with Ted. He didn't start with beard. He didn't start with the big wigs.

[00:36:35] He started where he started. And to me that says everything I need to know about his journey, he really has evolved. He has come to terms with what he has done and he is starting at the very bottom to make his amends. That's, this is Nate's apology.

[00:36:56] This is Nate's apology tour. I always say that I have a May apology tour for the month of May because I go silent in May just because at the end of the school year. And in June, I always say, okay, it's time for my apology tour.

[00:37:11] Please don't be my friend. But yeah, like I can see that as well too in the sense of that. You know, Nate is kind of at this point now where, and I don't want to discuss too deeply because a lot of it comes into play next episode.

[00:37:26] So I don't want to talk about it too spoilery, but Nate has finally gotten to a point in his life where he is content with what he has. He has a great partner in Jade and he now has a great relationship with his parents again.

[00:37:39] We see them at the end of this episode. They're playing, they're sitting around the table playing Uno together. You know, he is content. He doesn't need West Ham, but at the same time, he knows a men's need to be made. And he starts, you know,

[00:37:56] as you said kind of starting. I don't even want to say it starting at the bottom. I think he's starting. At the beginning. He's starting kind of where like the people he knows he wronged the most.

[00:38:11] Or at least in the way that like he's starting with the ones he wronged the most. That he can get to like will will is easy because will like he can go in, he can clean the, he can play the kitman part, send will the apology note,

[00:38:28] give him that little piece of lavender, which I just, we talked about it was just a beautiful, nice, loving little touch to that. And you can tell in that moment, he's forgiven. Will has forgiven him. Do you think will thought he was fired when he walked in? Probably.

[00:38:48] He looked like he was pooping his pants. Like, yeah. And can we just talk about how wonderful Nate's handwriting is compared to Roy Kent's handwriting? Roy Kent's. I'm just going to say that too. Um, you know, like there are other people like he

[00:39:07] wronged very in a big sense, but he, he has to work to them. Like Ted, he needs to work to beard. He needs to work to like there are. I think that he did wrong will the most. He treated will like he was garbage. Yeah.

[00:39:26] And I think that that my, my guess is that that actually weighs heavier on him than anything else is the way that he treated a kitman as a kit man. Yeah. I agree with that 100%. Like he, he hurt like he treated will the worst

[00:39:46] because he came what made what made the way he treated will worse than anybody else is the fact that that was the position he was in. And he has experienced that himself. Yes. Yeah. By, by it was Jamie, Isaac and Colin. He became what he always hated. Yeah.

[00:40:08] But it was because he hated himself at that point. He, he actually is beginning to like himself now. He has found validation and Jade, he's found validation in his father. He has been loved by his mother who, who obviously is very special to him.

[00:40:30] So I, I, I lost my train of thought. No, the validation. That just happened. I got talking about his mom and I just got all yay. Well, you got distracted by the idea of tomato soup being left outside of your bedroom door. Cause let's be real.

[00:40:50] I would easily slide that train in my room if I just opened my door and there was a sandwich. It's made of soup. Yeah. And then he, and then you see that the tray goes back out and it looks like it's the same thing.

[00:41:02] No, it's a different tray. No, no, it looks like it's the same meal. Oh, yeah. He's switching out like, like that's all she's making for him because she knows that that's what he likes, you know. Hey, you stick with what you love. Yeah.

[00:41:16] Blue box Kraft macaroni and cheese original. Okay. Don't give me the SpongeBob SquarePants noodles. Don't give me cheesier than cheesiest. No, original Kraft macaroni and cheese. Thank you very much. I will argue though that the nacho cheese Kraft macaroni and cheese is pretty damn good too.

[00:41:33] No, fuck off. This is a whole other topic. We've talked about this because this is going to be an issue at Thanksgiving when I come to visit your family at Thanksgiving. We don't have, we don't have macaroni and cheese at Thanksgiving. You will.

[00:41:47] I'm contributing to dinner and it will be my homemade macaroni and cheese, which is the one thing that everybody. When I say I don't like it, it has nothing to do with how much I love you. Look, when I make homemade macaroni and cheese for your family,

[00:42:04] I will Chandler bring it for you and give you blue box. Like it's. Thank you. Specifically just for you. Ask. I want the chemicals. OK. Anyway. Yeah, it's it's, you know, will I think you're right. I think we'll had to be the first person that he made

[00:42:26] immense too because it's authentic. Yeah, because again, it's not the fact of like who he wronged the worst. It's the fact what makes will the worst was the fact that he became what he hated in the way that he treated will. Yeah. And and that's you're right.

[00:42:46] That just needed to be that needed to be repaired. That was the first step. Ted Beard, the team other people, they come later. Yeah. Well, and I think it's and I think another part of it is too, like he probably he knows he has to apologize to Ted,

[00:43:02] but he also kind of knows that Ted being Ted, he it's already forgiven. Yeah. But Nate needs to do it for himself. Right. Right. Even if he's even if Nate feels he's already been forgiven or it's already been forgotten.

[00:43:19] This apology tour isn't just for the people he's wrong. This is for himself. Right. I agree. I agree. And and I think that it's for himself because he snuck in the back and he snuck in the front. He's not doing it to be noticed.

[00:43:37] He's not doing it for attention. He's not doing it to be the wonder kid, you know? Yeah. He is doing this because it's the right thing to do. Yeah. Which is huge for Nate. And I think I kind of as you as you put it on

[00:43:53] earlier a little bit earlier, like we wanted to hate Nate because we couldn't forgive him for what we did. And I was able to forgive Nate by the end of season three upon first watch and I'm able to forgive him even sooner. Yeah. Upon the rewatch.

[00:44:10] This yeah this rewatch was really good for me because I never I like I was so pissed off the whole season. Yeah. I feel like I feel like this is it's weird to say this but the stories that we get from these characters,

[00:44:23] that we get from of Nate in this episode, the story that we get of Rebecca of Keely of Roy even of the Jamie and Sam and some of the other players. It's not often called this but I feel like this is the penultimate of the penultimate.

[00:44:40] These three episodes like oftentimes when a series is getting ready to end you get the penultimate episode which is the lead up to the finale of the story which is the series finale. I feel like this is part one of a three part finale. Yeah much like lost.

[00:45:00] Yes. This is the wrap up and closure of growth in a lot of these secondary characters because next week without spoiling too much is a very heavy Ted closure. Spoil story with a couple other characters. There's a couple characters. I'm going to give the yips a little bit.

[00:45:24] Yes. This episode I think is Keely, Nate, Roy and there's even more Nate to come. We're not done with Nate yet but there's and Rebecca. This is a huge closure episode. There's a reason why we haven't talked about her yet. Yeah.

[00:45:42] Next week's episode is some closure of without again not going to spoilery Ted, Jamie, Nate and Beard. And then the series finale is full closure of everything. It is a wrap up of the story. I do feel especially as we're talking about this right now

[00:46:05] because we've talked so much about just Keely and Nate and we're almost an hour in this episode and there's so much more to talk about. I know we're not even close to my point. This episode could have been two episodes easily. Do you know what's funny too?

[00:46:21] As you mentioned like all of this stuff that we've talked about yet and we still have more to come. I have not once crossed anything off my list of things we've talked about because I haven't looked at my notes once.

[00:46:33] The only thing I looked at was that I wanted to get that thing that May said right. But I haven't looked at my notes. No, I love this episode. Yeah, I feel like we're just yeah. I really agree. I just love this episode so much.

[00:46:49] This is a really good episode for Nate. A really good episode for Nate and it's funny because I'm going to transition here a little bit from name of it. Go for it. We see a very strange Rupert this week and I think he lost his puppet

[00:47:10] and he needs a new play thing and he chooses, he thinks Rebecca might be the ticket. I agree with you in part. However, I think there's more to it and I can't say anything about it until spoilers.

[00:47:28] Which is fine but so let's talk about what we saw in this episode. He has a frumpy new overly eager assistant. Mrs. Bred. Who is not Rupert's assistant type? No. Rebecca immediately catches on to it. He went old school and he snuck in to Richmond

[00:47:56] the way he did when he was a boy which proves that he's coming kind of with his tail tucked between his legs. He's lost something because he used to just walk right through there like he owned the play still.

[00:48:10] He walks in, he's able to get into her office, he's able to bypass everybody because everybody still kind of loves Rupert there. Well we haven't seen him in her office since before he sold off his shares.

[00:48:24] This is the first time he's been in her office without owning part of the team. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's been there. I don't think so. I think he was there to tell her that he sold off the rest of his shares

[00:48:36] or he was there to talk about the baby. No, the last time we saw Rupert talk about any ownership of the team was Rebecca's father's funeral. When he said I'm gifting you Bex's shares

[00:48:51] and that was when Rebecca became full owner of the team was at her father's funeral. We have not seen Rupert in Rebecca's office since before he, the last time we saw Rupert in Rebecca's office he still owned shares.

[00:49:04] He was part owner of the team. He owns nothing now. So Rupert had to sneak in. I still think that there's something to be said for the fact that he felt that he had to sneak in

[00:49:20] and I think that it could be now that you said that and now I'm thinking about thinking back. So I'm thinking out loud at this point is that he, you see by the end of the episode that he wants to rekindle something with Rebecca

[00:49:33] but in an underhanded sneaky way he snuck into Richmond. He invited, he's courting her now by you know showering her with this meeting of the white men and Edwin of Fuku. You know, I hate him. I don't care.

[00:49:53] That just goes to show you how well Sam Richardson plays that character. Oh, he's brilliant. He's great. He's brilliant because if you've seen him in the Tomorrow Wars, if you've seen him in New Girl, yeah, where he plays Dunstan, he is amazing.

[00:50:12] So yeah, I really do like him in this role. But we, I just want to start calling people Pinky Dick. I love that. Pinky Dick. I love that. But I do love the fact that we are seeing that Rupert is trying to start an affair with Rebecca.

[00:50:33] I'll even take it a step further. I agree with you, but I think we're seeing again, we talk about growth and how all of these characters grow somewhat. Rupert is regressing. Yeah, he is because he lost his toys. Yeah, he is regressing.

[00:50:52] All of his plans are no longer working to get to Rebecca. And he sees that at the end of this episode. She just looks at him like, what the fuck are you doing? She just walks away. It was great. Yeah.

[00:51:09] I mean, because we see kind of using this to kind of talk about Rebecca a little bit in this whole thing because Rebecca and Rupert go hand in hand. We see that moment and this is what really led me to growth being the word of this episode

[00:51:25] is we see that moment before Rebecca goes into the meeting is she is standing in front of the mirror and she's doing that thing that she said early on, I think back in season one when she was telling Nate how to find confidence.

[00:51:38] This is what Rebecca does to find confidence. Make yourself as big as possible. And she's been doing it all her life. And there's a huge realization in this moment that when she looks in the mirror, she sees herself as a girl, as a young girl.

[00:51:55] And this is the first time that Rebecca, I think even she almost literally grows. She does the whole thing where she makes herself as big as possible and then the next time she sees herself, she sees herself as Rebecca, as the woman Rebecca, not the child Rebecca.

[00:52:15] She has literally grown in that moment. It's that growth theme. So and then when you fast forward to that meeting, Rebecca sees all of these owners and she sees them as boys. That was awesome. Keely's text couldn't have came at a better time. Yeah. And like we're seeing

[00:52:37] and I want to, I want to, this is kind of, kind of taking a little side note too. And because it's something I noticed upon second watch. Did you notice where Rebecca was placed at the table? Yeah. At the end with no one across from her. Yeah.

[00:52:54] The her placement at the table, I feel like is very important. I don't know what way it's important, but I feel like there's meaning to it. She has no equal at that table. Yeah. Maybe that's it. No way to put anybody in front of her. Yeah.

[00:53:12] Maybe that's it. Maybe that's just their way of saying Rebecca has no equal. It could also be that because she's a woman, they put her at the end. She's an outsider. Away from everything. Yeah. But that makes her, you know, but she's also incredibly important to that meeting.

[00:53:26] Well, I also love the fact too that when Edwin comes in and sees her and he's like, it's so nice that there's another minority here. She gives him that look like, what the fuck did you just say? Like I'm no minority. Yeah.

[00:53:40] I belong here probably more than you do. Yeah. Oh, she 100% does. Right. Right. Well, it was his meeting. That's why I said probably because he called the meeting. You know, Rebecca, I want to go back to the mirror scene. Yeah.

[00:53:57] So, um, when Rebecca looks at herself in the mirror for the very first time, Rebecca does not believe that she has earned this spot. She is going in nervous. Her shoulders are hunched forward. Her hand is over her heart. She's protecting her heart in that moment.

[00:54:14] She's looking at herself in the mirror as that little girl that does not deserve the things that she has earned. It isn't until I think she looks at that little girl and she remembers that she's not that little girl anymore.

[00:54:30] And she remembers her, um, her routine and she does her big moment that her shoulders go back. She looks at herself. She got, she needed to remember she's Rebecca fucking Welton. Yeah. Boss ass bitch. Boss ass bitch. Exactly.

[00:54:55] So I think that Rebecca has been so wonderful in making herself smaller for the good of the team because she's, because she's created a beautiful team element of like her and Ted, her leadership and Ted's leadership have just created this wonderful team of equals where she doesn't have

[00:55:22] to be the big boss ass bitch. The team. Yeah. So she in a sense has forgotten that she is the boss ass bitch. And she needs to remember, like Leslie said, you got to see it at the table man go and, and see what it is. Yeah.

[00:55:42] I don't know anything if you don't, if you don't go. I love that moment of advice from Higgins. Like who cares how you got invited? You have a seat at the table. She should have gone him first.

[00:55:56] The whole conversation where Higgins is going through the list of people of like who she could have gone to. And then he gets to mom and she's like, are you fucking joking? Let's do this. Come on. I'm flattered. But yeah, you're right.

[00:56:11] Like in addition to finding the confidence of who she is as a person, there's a huge realization in that conversation when she tells like Edwin and all the owners, like, are you people joking? Like is this a joke?

[00:56:23] And she goes on to talk about like what these teams, what football means to the fans. She has realized that this is no longer like this. She doesn't see this as a business anymore. This is something like so much bigger. It's so much more than that.

[00:56:40] She says she doesn't just see herself as an owner of a team. She sees herself as part of this town. She sees herself as part of the team. As you said, she's got a relationship with the fans. She's been practicing. She's always at the team bar.

[00:56:58] Well, what has become the team bar? She is always in the locker room. She knows all of the players. She even has such a wonderfully awkward moment with Sam. But they both walk away happy, not sad. And they've grown your growth, your growth theme.

[00:57:25] They've both grown into these people that they still have this massive respect and like for one another. But they just know that it's not the cards. But also look at what happens before that too in relation to Sam in relation to Ted.

[00:57:40] When Rebecca is in her office and she's going through her bag looking for her phone. What are the two things that she finds? The matchbook. The green matchbook and the green army man directly connected to Sam and Ted.

[00:57:54] These are two people who are connected to this team who she has grown from because of her interactions with these two people. Yeah. This is a huge moment in which Rebecca realizes how important this team and everybody in it is to her.

[00:58:13] And you know the army man that she has is someone is a sniper. Right? The sniper is the lethal one. She remembered she's the lethal one because she is. She is far more dangerous and shrewd and just fucking phenomenal than every other man at that table.

[00:58:44] And it's not because she's a woman, right? It's because she understands her role on the team because just a few weeks ago Ted said what? He said this isn't our team we're just borrowing it for a little bit.

[00:58:58] And ever since he said that line it has changed my perspective on sports just in general. We talked a lot about that last episode. We talked about like Mark Cuban and Mark Cuban and some other owners. Right.

[00:59:13] And so Rebecca realizes this and she goes to bat for the common man at that table. And you know what's so funny about it too is I feel like Rebecca when she went into that meeting

[00:59:29] I feel like the intention was to just hear what they had to say because she now has a spot, she has a spot at the table so she can go in and she can listen.

[00:59:39] But when she looks up and she sees them as just the children that they are like they just want more toys. She has no problem. None speaking her mind. She's pulled that's the sniper pulling the trigger. Yeah. And like I'm going to shut this shit down.

[01:00:01] And I feel like because we don't get to see the food fight which makes me very upset. But you know, Edwin leaves without any food on him at all. So we already know he throws the temperature. They clearly all said no. Yeah.

[01:00:20] And he threw all the food at them. Which is phenomenal because it just means that he has trashed any any inkling of doing anything in sports after that. Well look about look at this character. This character Edwin Okufu who we met last season.

[01:00:37] Just all you need to know about him is how big and overblown his aspirations are. He went from wanting to own a team within a year to wanting to own a league. Because he wants to control it too fast. It's because he wants to control it all. Yeah.

[01:00:55] He wants everybody to be a yes man like his two little lackeys with the high five thing and the pinky dick thing. And you know I mean he has nobody in his life I think that grounds him.

[01:01:06] You know everybody in his life is paid for big fat orange. I mean I'm sorry African baby. Everybody in his life is paid for. That's you know that that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. You know but I want to going back to the whole meeting thing.

[01:01:27] We talked about like Rupert's regression and what's going on with him. I do want to say and we talked a little bit about this last episode. There is a moment where you do see a little bit of humanity

[01:01:42] and you almost kind of like Rupert in the smallest sense. Is it the story? The story the story that Rebecca tells about this little boy who used to sneak in and got caught

[01:01:59] and when he finally owned the team gave that security guard a pay raise with no explanation. You know and then we hear again that the two of them snuck in together but he already owned the team at that point so it was kind of pointless.

[01:02:13] Like we find out like OK like there really was some good to Rupert at some point. And then like after the food fight it's Rebecca and Rupert that are laughing. Like they're the ones that are kind of been like you know.

[01:02:32] His laugh was the nerdiest laugh I've ever heard in my life and I loved it. And I did see an interview with Anthony that said like that's not his real laugh like he did that intentionally. He probably because probably because Rupert the character doesn't laugh.

[01:02:49] Probably. Yeah. So he doesn't know how. But I did like I again like I love Anthony had like I've been a fan of his since Buffy the vampire slayer and I like I did see an interview with him

[01:03:03] and he said like as horrible as this character is he loved playing this character. It was just a ton of fun for him more so because he just got to be a part of this story. Like even if it was playing the villain like he just loved this

[01:03:21] story so much of the entire Ted Lasso story. He was just so happy to be a part of it. Yeah. Even if it was playing a horrible character. Usually the people the actors that play the worst characters are the nicest people. Yeah. I mean look at Joffrey.

[01:03:40] I was just going to say Joffrey Baratheon. Joffrey Baratheon is probably the biggest. I can't remember that actor's name for the Jackie Gleason. Jack Gleason. Jack Gleason. Yeah. Jackie Gleason was a comedian from like the early. He was a burlesque guy right. Jackie Gleason. No.

[01:04:00] No. No. That's Liberace. No. No. Jackie Gleason was a comedian if you've ever seen. I've seen. I love Lucy. He was on. I love Lucy. He did. No. No. I turned and he slowly I turned step by step.

[01:04:15] No. Jackie Gleason was a Jewish comedian if you've ever seen Caddy Shack too. Oh no. He's the lead of Caddy Shack too. I've never seen Caddy Shack. I am just going to look this up to make sure I am not wrong.

[01:04:30] Oh no. I am wrong son of a bitch. You are right. It's he's from the honeymooners. Hmm. Jackie Gleason was from the honeymooners and from Smokey in the Bandit. Hmm. So I'm I'm wrong. Who am I thinking of? I don't know. That's OK. Let me see real quick.

[01:04:49] I'm actually I'm thinking of Jackie Mason. Sorry. Close enough. So I do have a question about that meeting. OK. What do you think was Rupert's angle in inviting Rebecca? Hmm. I you know I did think about that and I don't know if I have an answer.

[01:05:10] I don't either. I was thinking you would. I think there is. I do think there's a part that was legitimately about making money because that's who Rupert is. He wants to be successful and money makes you successful in his eyes.

[01:05:31] So I do think there is a legitimate part of that. I also think there is a part that he saw this as an opportunity to maybe get Rebecca back under his thumb again. Like, hey, I did you a favor. I brought you into this.

[01:05:47] I brought you into this. I did you a favor. I brought you in now that you're in remember who did it. I think I need them all a favor by telling them to fuck off. Well, you know she obviously like you said they all stay in the know.

[01:06:00] So she very clearly had an influence. So but yeah, I think it's twofold. I think it's one he did want to be successful, but I do think it was a power move to kind of get Rebecca back under his thumb again. That's interesting. He has no other people.

[01:06:15] He lost Nate. He lost his puppy dog and his new assistant is inexplicably missing. Oh, we're going to talk about that in spoilers. Oh, I think it's twofold. I mean, Rebecca is wonderful in this episode for sure.

[01:06:28] I just, you know, she has evolved so much from the first time that we saw her and, you know, her journey is weirdly far from over with two episodes left. But at the same time, she has evolved in a way that she's

[01:06:43] not only going to be able to get back under her thumb, but also to get back under her thumb. So I think it's one of those things that we're going to see in the next episode. But at the same time, she has evolved into this complete person

[01:06:57] where she can walk away from Sam and not feel hurt. She's smiling. She can walk away from her interaction with Rupert when he tries to kiss her, smiling and walks away. And I don't know if you noticed this,

[01:07:13] but in her final scene with Ted at the end of the episode, wearing a pink dress and her hair is down, she has softened her look. She went from this, you know, power suit, everything hugging, everything tight. Her hair is slicked back tight.

[01:07:31] Her makeup is on perfectly tight. You know, even her eye makeup is sweeping to the back. And then in this final scene, we see her in her couture, hot couture version of Sundress and her hair is down and she just, she looks softer and more relaxed.

[01:07:51] Well, she admits to Ted that like I don't, I don't need to beat Rupert now. Like I still want to win, but like my goal has changed. She's taken ownership of her team. Well, and there is something else that happens in that final

[01:08:05] scene too. I'm glad you brought this up because I have this in my notes, but there is something else that happens in that final scene that is a huge step forward for Rebecca. When Rupert is in that office, he questions the painting on the wall, the Hockney.

[01:08:19] Like what happened to it? And she's like, oh, like I took it, I got rid of it. She took it down because she didn't want any reminder of Rupert in that office. She loved that painting, but took it down because she was reminding her of Rupert.

[01:08:33] In the end, in that final scene, she rehangs that painting because it's not for Rupert. Now it's for her. And she can look at it with confidence. I like it that you said that. She's hanging this painting now for herself.

[01:08:49] I think if the Ted says, did you draw that? And I love how this episode ends with her just spitting tea in Ted's face and she's like, I feel like it's ceremonial now. He's like, well, as long as any of that elephant pissed it

[01:09:06] and get in my mouth, we're fine. There's not a lot of Ted in this episode at all. It's very limited. We're going to get a lot next episode. So do you want to talk about the players? Before we talk about the players, before we talk about the team,

[01:09:27] I want to go because it kind of transitions a little bit back into Keely a little bit. But I guess we don't really have to. We did mention it. I wrote that Roy wrote to Keely. When Roy admits that it was his fault, Keely did nothing wrong.

[01:09:53] It's a huge moment because Keely is seeing, okay, maybe everything I do isn't my fault. Everything that bad happens isn't my fault. Roy is the one that really makes her realize that. And then we get that great moment where, as you mentioned, she kind of invites him in.

[01:10:09] And when Keely and Rebecca are on the couch and Keely and Rebecca is like, oh, like getting back. Like, can you imagine getting back with that floppy dick, whatever, and who comes down the stairs is Roy? In Keely's robe. In Keely's robe.

[01:10:28] It just does the little salute to Rebecca. And I loved, like, that's such a great moment. But sticking on Roy before we go into... Are we going to talk about Uncle's Day? Let's do Happy Uncle's Day. There is some growth from Roy in this episode.

[01:10:45] Because of things that happen, Happy Uncle's Day doesn't really play into it. It's just a fun scene. No, actually I take that back. It's a lead-in to the scene that really makes Roy come to a realization. It's the shirt that leads to the conversation with Miss Bowen.

[01:11:04] That really kind of is an eye-opener for Roy. But let's talk about Happy Uncle's Day first, because I love this scene. This scene has been stuck out in my head since, like, when we talk about season three, this is a scene that sticks out in my head.

[01:11:23] Because it's so cute. I just want to die. Phoebe inviting Jamie as Roy's best friend. Uncle Roy's best friend, yes. Uncle Roy's best friend. So in this scene, I want to talk about the gift that Jamie gives to Roy. Because there's quite a bit to unpack with this,

[01:11:51] because it's humorous on the surface. But there's really something underlying about this. I cried. It's so when Jamie gives Roy the gift, it's his original kit from when he played for England in the World Cup. Very similar kind of goes along with international break,

[01:12:14] where these guys are playing for their countries in other games. The surface part of it is when Jamie says, I got them to change the E to a U. And Phoebe, like you can tell Roy's sister has figured it out.

[01:12:31] But watching Phoebe kind of process this is one of the funniest damn things in the entire scene. And when she tells Jamie, like, you owe me a quit. He's like, I didn't say nothing. Like no, but you made me think it and that's kind of the same thing.

[01:12:46] He's like, all right, fair enough. But the underlying fact is that's a very meaningful gift. That's not just the kit he got at the shop and got them to change the name. For Uncle's Day. For Uncle's Day. That is a legitimately very touching gift. That's a real thing.

[01:13:11] No, they both had like a weird soft moment there that they were trying desperately to cover up in front of the women. But when Roy is holding it and he looks, he never breaks eye contact with Jamie. And then finally says like, I love it.

[01:13:26] Like he admits like that is a meaningful gift. Yeah, it is. It's better than Phoebe's gift. Well, Phoebe's gift is just amazing in itself. That she thought that her uncle would wear that. I, there's a part of me that like you're right.

[01:13:50] The fact that she thought Roy would wear it is one thing, but there's also a part of me that knows that Phoebe is very smart. Yeah. And Phoebe knows her uncle will wear it. Yeah. It's like your name. Red or yellow. And then when Jamie's like, that's fine.

[01:14:09] I fucking love it. And Phoebe just puts out her hand. I'm like, what's the point of it? I'm like, that's fine. It's not worth it. Like it's, it's such a great scene. And this is something that we talked about in spoilers.

[01:14:24] I think last season, but we never, this is the first time we finally get to like realize it. Yeah. We have seen Roy sister before. Yeah. She is when he talks about in that parent teacher conference, how she works in the hospital, in the emergency room.

[01:14:42] God, what's Dr. Sharon? When Dr. Sharon was in the bike accident, she was working in the ER and Ted and Dr. Sharon had the interaction with her. We now see that was Roy sister and Phoebe's mom.

[01:14:56] Now we know she has, she has a different last name because Ted would have picked up on it. Well, yeah. Well, she probably, she probably kept her married name for Phoebe. Yeah. She's a piece of shit. Phoebe's father is a piece of shit.

[01:15:16] Yeah, he's a living piece of shit. I love, I love, love this tie-dye shirt journey that he goes on because by the end of the episode, he's wearing tie-dye still. It's just more Roy's colors. Yeah.

[01:15:35] I think Phoebe made him a different shirt after she saw that he was going to wear that shirt. And this was like the backup shirt, like, okay, here, this is blue and black. You can have this. I love the scene of Roy walking into AFC Richmond wearing the

[01:15:53] shirt. With the red right hand playing in the background. With Nick Cave red right hand playing is, and just like we see the influence Roy has in that locker room and that is giving him the stare down.

[01:16:08] The one guy laughs and Roy just turns his head and gives him an over-the-shoulder look and just looks at him and this guy instantly stops and puts his head down. I'm sorry, but what in what world did he think laughing at

[01:16:21] Roy Kent was going to be a good idea? I don't know. He screamed into a pillow before I did that. The greatest reaction is Coach Beard, Ted and Trent. You see like Beard, like trying to get Ted's attention to get him to look up.

[01:16:41] And then when Roy leaves the office and you just see Trent come in from the opposite direction and just like point with this awestruck look on his face. There's no word spoken. Nobody knows what to say. They just like kind of look at each other, realize it's

[01:17:00] kind of happened and then just go their separate ways. It's such a brilliantly done comedic scene. Yeah, and they're all wonderful in it. No dialogue. It is perfect comedic acting. It's just it's chef's kiss of a comedic scene. It is a chef's kiss. I love it.

[01:17:22] Roy comes back in. Doesn't he come back into? He comes in and out of the room. No, no. He just comes in, he puts his bag down, they nod and then he leaves because that's when Trent comes in from the other side.

[01:17:35] Now, using this as I mentioned how there's a little bit of growth in everybody. Yeah. That tie dye shirt kind of leads to the slightest amount of growth from Beard because at the end of the episode, we see Trent and Beard having that conversation and Trent

[01:17:52] is kind of wanting to learn more about Beard and says like, you know, where are you from? Beard's like none of your business. And then Roy comes in with the tie dye shirt. He sees that Roy has grown a little bit and he's willing to wear more shirts.

[01:18:06] So what does he do? He tells Trent, I'm from Peoria. Like he opened up. Beard doesn't do that. No. I mean, we don't even know his real name in the show. No. Not at this point. But he, Beard has opened up to Trent.

[01:18:28] That has never happened with Beard before. The only person who knows Beard is Ted. And really does he? How many acts do you have? No, because he learned about the axes. He goes, oh, she's not going to be able to carry all those axes.

[01:18:44] Wait, you have, and they're all here in the UK? Well, I'm not going to leave them in another country. I'm not going to leave my axes in another country. You're right. Like even Ted doesn't know Beard completely. Beard is an enigma. Right.

[01:18:58] But again, it's that little bit of growth that Ted, Beard opens up to Trent. Tells him where he's from. So on that note during that scene, but Beard is reading the book, finding the mother tree, discovering the wisdom of the forest.

[01:19:15] I'm glad you looked because it is an autobiographical account of this author, Suzanne Seymard. It's an autobiographical account of her role in developing the theory that came to be known as the Wood Wide Web, which is about how trees communicate and share nutrients to support each other.

[01:19:34] A distinct contrast to prevailing theories that trees and maybe even other organisms primarily compete. What does that sound like to you? I tell me. To me, it sounds like we're taking a bunch of world-class athletes that have always been in it

[01:19:53] for themselves and we have developed them into a team-wide web that communicate and share nutrients to support each other. That they have become a team that Beard has had a direct role in the development of this team that has connected with each other. And in this connection,

[01:20:15] he has now made a connection with Trent, who is a part of this team now. So now he must share his information with Trent. Well, and I'll even take it to another way to look at it too, is that whole team aspect of everybody coming together.

[01:20:33] That's actually Richmond's new play style now too. That's what I'm saying. Total football, right? Yeah. It's total football. That's the development that Beard has been. Oh, I thought you meant like personally for Beard. No, no, no. Okay. He has had a direct role in teaching this team

[01:20:49] with Ted, obviously, how to be a network for each other instead of one single organism. So I think it's interesting that he's reading this book of the journey that he's already taken. Well, and it kind of... It just goes to show you... I also want this book.

[01:21:08] It also goes to show you the brilliance of Beard. Like he just... Oh, that should be like the Tower of Poo. We should make a book that says the brilliance of Beard. The brilliance of Beard. Always have 17 axes. That could be a chapter. Number one. Yeah.

[01:21:29] Number one chapter. Don't forget your axes. Always have 17 axes. But you can even say that he carries around his axes with him as a metaphor to... He always has an axe to grind with somebody. Namely, right now, Nate. Well, look at what happens in that whole scene

[01:21:48] as he shows like he's celebrating Nate's downfall. With an axe party. Yeah. And little targets with him with a bull's eye on his crotch. He says... What does he say? Karma's delivery to the wonder cherd. I think it's Ted that says like,

[01:22:10] don't you find it ironic that you're celebrating somebody's bad karma by, you know... With your like... Don't you think you're going to get bad karma? Or yeah, don't you think it's bad karma to celebrate someone else's bad karma and beer? Yeah. No! Like I don't care?

[01:22:25] Yeah, he doesn't care. Yeah. But, you know, so going back to Uncle Day and Roy and Jamie, focusing on Roy just for one more second is we kind of see the lead up to that conversation with Beard or that conversation with Roy and Keely at the end

[01:22:45] and that he goes, he takes Phoebe to school and he runs into Miss Bowen and Miss Bowen like she even sees that Roy is different. Like he's kind of released a little bit. He doesn't look like he has as much of a weight on his shoulder.

[01:23:01] She even says like you look lighter. Because he was stuck in his own shit. Yeah, and she kind of sees that and you know we get the very clear indication that yes like there was flirting between or at least from one side of it. Like these two...

[01:23:22] And I won't lie, I would have been interested to see it. Me too. You know? I would have been interested to see him at least try it. If he wasn't going to be with Keely, like we still want to see Roy happy. So...

[01:23:39] I think that Miss Bowen would have made him happy. I do too. And I think in her own way she still did help. And you know, they could be friends. Well because she says and I have this in my quotes and I only wrote it down in quotes.

[01:24:00] It's not even necessarily for quotes. Oh, I don't have the whole thing. But she says like I'm a teacher. I don't mind cleaning up a mess. And you know Roy... That's kind of like the realization that Roy comes to is like this is a mess.

[01:24:17] I need to clean this up. And that's when he goes and he buys the card and we see him go through all the different sheets of paper to kind of write the message to Keely. And what I love about that message to Keely

[01:24:30] is that he starts by reading it and then stops and speaks to Keely. He's no longer reading this message. He's talking to Keely. Like he doesn't break eye contact. Because I have it. It says, dear Keely, I want you to know something. You never did anything wrong.

[01:24:50] It was all me. I was stuck. Stuck in my own shit and I didn't want to cause you any harm with it. So I pulled away, but you are. And then at that point he stops reading the message. And he looks up.

[01:25:03] He says, you are and always will be Keely fucking Jones. And if I ever did anything, anything at all that made you feel like that wasn't true. I'm sorry. I love you. Sincerely, you always Roy Kent XOXO. He's like, she's like, you are the only Roy I know.

[01:25:22] And he's like, well, I didn't want to assume. But like just seeing that, like that is huge growth for both of these characters in each other. Roy has Roy can speak to Keely now. And now Keely knows she doesn't always fuck things up on her own.

[01:25:43] You know, yeah, for everybody who loves Roy and Keely together, it's a huge moment. We don't know, as you said, what happens next. It's a hopeful moment. It's a hopeful moment. Yeah. You know, that seeing a fracture between these two is being mended. Yeah. It's 100 percent. 100 percent.

[01:26:05] But now let's switch from. Roy to the other half of Happy Uncle's Day. In the partnership and talk about Jamie. Jamie did good this week. This is I love what Jamie does for in this episode. Seeing that Sam didn't make his Nigerian team.

[01:26:32] And having him go out there representing Sam wearing 24 is huge. It's huge. This is the second time that he has supported Sam when when Sam's country has failed him. Yeah. This goes to show you again growth. Mm hmm. How far Jamie has come. Jamie is no longer.

[01:27:01] He hasn't been for a while. Jamie is no longer about himself. I wish he changed his wardrobe. That last outfit he wore. Well, there are some elements of Jamie that'll never change. I know that stupid icon had as one of them. But Jamie is no longer about himself.

[01:27:21] Mm hmm. Jamie is for the team and his players. And he loves Sam. Yeah, he really loves Sam. And the fact that like he didn't tell Sam he was doing it, he just did it. He didn't ask Sam if it was OK.

[01:27:39] That he's like, no, this is my gift to Sam. Was not even that. It's Jamie choosing to stand up for what's right. Sam Obisanya is one of the best players in the league. And well, that's that's even said in the beginning.

[01:27:54] Yeah, Dorn, like the news broadcast, the sports broadcast, right? Like it's undeniable that Sam is going to make the Nigerian team. And then he does it. It was obviously done on purpose. Like it was a headscratcher for anybody that knows Sam Obisanya as a football player.

[01:28:11] Yeah. Mm hmm. Well, we do know we do find out in the conversation between Edwin and Sam at the restaurant that this is 100 percent intentional. Well, right. This is spiteful from Edwin. And I'm pretty sure that, you know, anybody that understands the weird, you know, politics of football

[01:28:30] would could probably put it together. But, you know, the average fan doesn't. And the average fan is just like, I'm sorry, my favorite player doesn't get to play for his country. Yeah, you've got to be kidding me. Yeah. So yeah, just the fact that Sam goes out there

[01:28:45] and makes this incredible gift to Sam and pays tribute. And when Sam sees it, like the happiness on his face, like that he is being represented in these games. I don't even think Sam sees it as like, oh, I'm being represented.

[01:28:59] I think he sees it isn't like this is my teammate. My friend is supporting me. My friend is supporting me. Yeah. That would have been this would have been a perfect moment for a Nora scene for Nora to like call Rebecca

[01:29:17] and just start screaming about the fact that Sam Obesanya did not make the Nigerian team. And how can she fix it? Because no. Yeah. Yeah, because we don't see Nora again. No, we're finished with Nora. We're done with Nora.

[01:29:31] And this would have been perfect to just inject a little bit of Nora because we all love her so much. Yeah. Bossass bitch. Bossass bitch. Yeah. And so like, you know, obviously we see and, you know,

[01:29:45] and again, we see that little bit of glimmer of hope at the end too. And when they're back in the locker room, Sam takes out the picture of an older Nigerian team and puts it in his locker. Ninety four team. The 94 team like he knows like.

[01:29:59] Did that team win? Do we know like why why it was the 94 team? Was he born in 1994? 1994 Nigerian World Cup team. Let me see. I don't know. Oh, wait, no, hold on. What was that? Oh, I don't know if it's if it says or not.

[01:30:24] How far did Nigeria? Nigeria reached. Nigeria has reached the FIFA World Cup on six occasions, the first being in 1994. OK. Where they reached the second round. So it was the first year that squad was the first time Nigeria ever made the World Cup. OK. There we go.

[01:30:44] So, yeah. But, you know, the dream is not dead for Sam. No, it's it's still a goal. It's still an aspiration, you know? So that's why the picture is in his locker. Mm hmm. And then we have Danny and Zorro. Thank you. No, no, no, no.

[01:31:02] We don't have we don't have Danny. We have Negga Danny. We we have Danny Rojas' dark competitive cloud. His Mr. Hyde. Yes. The scene where him and Vandam are on the plane and Vandam offers him chips and Danny just takes the bag

[01:31:29] and crushes it and turns it over and pours out the crumbs. OK, so what's the bag back? All I can think about is the fact that they're in first class and there is smelly Dorito dust all over the floor. It's just this is a dark side of Danny.

[01:31:52] And I loved it. It's so. Well, what I love it, though, is at the end, like he comes up to Zorro and he's just like, hey, man, what a game, huh? Crazy game. And Zorro's like, I'm legitimately afraid of you.

[01:32:08] Like, I don't even know how to talk to you. Well, Danny broke his nose in the game. He goes, well, my nose is broken. He's like, I know that was quite a hit, huh? He's just like, oh, hey, Danny Rojas. Like, he's so funny.

[01:32:23] It's the flip of a switch. Like he turns into this dark competitive person and now it's off and he's back to being Danny again, loving football and his teammates. And it's like that wasn't me. That was a different Danny. Yeah, right. Because it was. Mm hmm.

[01:32:38] It was a different. It was negative. He had a pretty good game, I guess. So it was really funny, though. Yeah, I really liked that dynamic between the two of them. And that was fantastic. Um, looking at my notes,

[01:32:56] I only have, I mean, we can talk a little bit more about the Sam and Edwin conversation, but there's really not a lot to really kind of discuss about it. It's just Edward being spiteful. He cancels all the reservations because he wants to

[01:33:11] bring in his own Nigerian restaurant to compete with Sam's. He's just it's it's petty childish behavior against Sam. That's that's really all that conversation stems, you know, comes down to. Yeah. Let me see. At the very beginning, we have shorty shorts

[01:33:31] that is sucking up to Rupert on the television. You know, he's like, oh, I don't think Rupert's done anything too bad because he knows there is a job opening at West Ham. Is my guess. Oh, I don't even really think about it that way.

[01:33:47] Well, we find out like in that conversation, he's never like Nate. He isn't like anybody that comes from Richmond. Yeah. Well, because he got fired from Richmond. Right. But all of a sudden there's an opening for head coaching position at West Ham.

[01:34:03] So I feel like shorty shorts is going to be like, well, I think Rupert makes great decisions all the time because he's amazing. And I miss my short shorts. Oh, I miss my short shorts. No, that's a good possibility. I didn't even really look at it that way.

[01:34:21] But yeah, I can see that. The only other thing I have in my notes before we go into spoiler territory is there is a two person cameo in this episode. Oh, I know it. Both and both of these people have been on my podcast.

[01:34:40] They're both from whose line is it anyways? They're both from whose line is it anyway? Is one of them named Colin? Yes. And the other one is named Ryan for anybody who does not know the announcers during the Mexico-Canada game are Colin,

[01:34:55] Mockery and Ryan Stiles, which is perfect. I bet you they improvised the entire thing. I think that actually, I think I read that they did. I think they just put the footage in front of them and they just kind of let them riff a little bit.

[01:35:07] But yeah, I've had Colin and Ryan both at separate times, but both on Wilhelm and they were great guests. I love that's actually Colin's been on a number of times. That's Colin on like three times. You should have him come on again and talk about lasso.

[01:35:22] I don't know how much he's going to have to say about it, but who cares? Yeah. Does he have like, you know, a sentence? That's true. That's all he really needs to do. I just need anything else from you before we go into spoilers.

[01:35:37] I did want to make a mention of knowing that that hang on. What's his name? What's his name? Nick Muhammad is an accomplished violinist that is him playing. I did not know that. And the person that is playing piano is his wife, accompanying him.

[01:35:59] And they have the scarves and the magic hat as he's looking through all of his stuff in the attic, because Nick Muhammad is also a magician. I did not know that either. I thought those were all fun little tidbits. That's amazing.

[01:36:16] And the only other thing I will say is we've talked about this in a number of different episodes, but the music in this episode. There's so much great music in this episode. We talked about like the violin work.

[01:36:28] We obviously we talked about Nick Cave in Red Right Hand, Middle Kids, Golden Star. The song that is playing when Nate is looking through the photo album is called Light by Michael Kiwanaku. And then Union Jack by Big Audio Dynamite, which is what plays during the credits.

[01:36:46] I love Big Audio Dynamite. You don't hear them enough. Dun Dun, We Know Good by Bahamas. Like there's so much great music. Yeah. And this episode. I really love the violin piece, though, because the violin piece, it just links it connects all these characters going through

[01:37:03] these huge transformative moments over this gorgeous piece of music that is played by Nate. It is called I'm Spiegel. It's called it's called Spiegel. I'm Spiegel. Yeah. No, Spiegel in Spiegel. Sorry. Yeah, it doesn't have an Oh by Arvo Brot.

[01:37:28] I don't I didn't look into any of that. I just yeah, I didn't look into any of that. Yeah. Yeah, another great music, more good, more great music choices in this episode was great. All right. So then that was a long conversation.

[01:37:49] It's going to be a little lengthier episode. But again, there was a lot to talk about, but we're not done. So for those of you who are watching for the first time, we're going to dive into spoilers for a couple of minutes.

[01:38:00] So just we're going to talk about Ted the whole time. No, we got some other stuff. No, I'm just kidding. I'm going to talk about Ted the whole time. But yeah, just check the show notes to find out when to come back in.

[01:38:11] We'll talk about some of our favorite quotes and recommend and feedback and recommendations. I want to start with this. Welcome to spoilers. Welcome to spoilers. Rebecca's mirror moment. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What is it? What is it? The little girl, the little girl.

[01:38:35] Is the little girl that comes running to Rebecca in the series finale of the bomb. It's how she becomes a mom. That little girl, she sees herself as that little girl, but that little girl also plays the daughter of the of the pilot. Is her future.

[01:38:52] It's her future. It's not just her past. It's her future. It's her lightning. It's lightning. I love it. She's at the top. She got her lightning. Sorry, I'm like so excited by that. No, thank you so much for saying it.

[01:39:08] Did you not have it in your spoiler notes? No, because I told you I just have Ted. OK, that's right. All right. So then before we go into Ted, then let me do mine because mine are really quick. Beards thoughts on Nate are going to change next episode.

[01:39:25] Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't I might watch it as soon as we're done. The end of next week's episode. Phenomenal. The backstory on beard is I. It's one of my favorite moments from all of season three. And I have forgotten most of it.

[01:39:41] So I'm excited to rewatch it because I know how powerful it was the first time I watched it. And I remember thinking to myself, holy shit. This is amazing. Yeah. But I I can't wait to rewatch it. It's just it is. I forgot the details.

[01:39:58] Again, it is one of my favorite moments of season three is Beards is Beards backstory because it because it comes along with an apology to Nate. Well, not an apology to Nate, but an understanding. Yeah, he doesn't owe Nate an apology. Yeah. Yeah. Nate owes him an apology.

[01:40:17] It's forgiveness to Nate. It's forgiveness and it's letting go. Yeah, which ultimately propels both of them into coaching positions. Yeah, which is wonderful. Rupert's assistant, we know why she is no longer with Rupert. There is a mention at the beginning of this episode about workplace.

[01:40:44] Shit, how is it proximity partners? No, no, there is a the conversation during Girl Talk when they're in the office and Leslie's the directors of Beb operations. I think that's wonderful. That's like Marshall Erickson's funk band from how I

[01:41:13] met your mother that was called the funk, the whole funk and nothing but the funk. Because they were all lawyers. Oh, inappropriate workplace behavior over at West Ham. There was rumors, there was rumblings of that and they lean in and be like, do you think Nate can be

[01:41:32] involved in that? And they're like, no. Well, we're maybe blew the whistle on it. Maybe. But we are going to find we are going to find out Rupert is the one that is inappropriate workplace behavior because we're going

[01:41:46] to see in the finale that both Bex and that assistant come to Rebecca for advice. So I would like to think that that Nate was so mad at what Rupert expected him to be like that he quit and then he did an anonymous tip to the press

[01:42:07] about that because that is something that Nate would do because he does have those darker, kind of sneaky dick moves in him as we've seen over the last season. And my guess is that he wanted to stick it to Rupert

[01:42:22] because everything about Rupert became clear in that moment. And he has seen it last week and he Nate saw his role in what he has done to the Richmond team. Right. And I think that this is his first step in apologizing Yeah, I wouldn't.

[01:42:44] I yeah, you know what? I wouldn't put it past Nate. I literally just had this thought I could be wrong. I I wouldn't put it past Nate at all. I think it would be kind of cool.

[01:42:56] You know, he's like, hell, yeah, I took that guy down for you, Rebecca. Now, can I be the kit man again? What do we stand on that kit man situation? Yeah. And then the only other one I have and then I'll let you get into your

[01:43:09] Ted stuff is Barbara and the snow globe. This is not the last we see of that snow globe. Yay. Barbara has given the snow globe back to Keeley, but Keeley will re-gift that snow globe one more time. I don't remember. She gives it to Ted when Ted leaves.

[01:43:30] Oh, because he's leaving the job. He's leaving the job. So let's go into this for a second. This is a great segue. OK. Ted, lift officially now lifts out of the show. Ted has created such a wonderful culture at Richmond that they don't need him anymore.

[01:43:52] In fact, we have gone back to them kind of looking at him a little strangely with his corniness because I feel like this episode, he was a little extra corny like he's like, well, you know, I always say or I like to think that blah, blah, blah.

[01:44:09] Like a couple of the things that he said. I don't think fit with the conversation like they used to. They use his corniness used to fit very nicely into the. Cooler environment of Richmond, right? He brought in this big warm energy to a very cold, very

[01:44:33] disjointed team, right? But we go into this episode and he has created this wonderful, beautiful team and front office and coaching staff and players. And I just in the whole spirit of Richmond did that. But now they've evolved past him, I think.

[01:44:58] And we've gotten to the point now that Ted very easily lifts out of this show. As we saw, we didn't need him in this episode at all. Yeah, because we don't have him. And we get very little of it. He is literally just a coach.

[01:45:12] Isn't that great though? Right? It shows the growth of these characters and how this story involved so much more than just the lead character, just the titular character. 100 percent. Yeah. And so. I don't think if you are paying attention to this show

[01:45:33] that him announcing that he's going back home next episode, it shouldn't be a surprise. Well, even next episode, he never says he's going home. He just says I have a doozy for you. He says, I've got a doozy for you and that's how the episode ends.

[01:45:49] Now, I mean, it's implied and most people know at that point like, oh, shit, Ted's going home. But this episode. Is the first episode. Because I've been I've been looking at season three, like, where does Ted kind of leave the team?

[01:46:05] Where is it that he leaves the team in this season? It's this episode. Ted's gone. The team can run itself. I think from a show perspective, yes, I think Ted is. Oh, no, he definitely hasn't realized it yet. But no, Ted's gone this episode.

[01:46:24] Ted's out of he's he's on the verge of out of the story at this point because even next week when we go in the mom city and we dive into a lot of that, a lot of that is personal closure. It's not team closure.

[01:46:38] It's it's it's it's personal stuff within Ted. It's dealing with his relationship with his mother. It's dealing of the loss of his father. It's a lot of that, which I kind of feel like Ted needed before he could go home.

[01:46:52] Oh, there are definite wounds that he needs to at least attempt to fasten together before he can go back home. And his relationship with this mom, reconciling the way that he feels about his father and his father's suicide. All and his what is waiting for him back home?

[01:47:14] Who is waiting for him back home? That all needs to be ironed out before he can go back home. His professional life is stable. His professional life is fine. He needs to work out the personal part before he can go home.

[01:47:29] And I think that that's done very, very beautifully next week. Well, I'll even take it a little bit a little bit further than that when you say like his professional life is, you know, is solid. When we see him this again, we're good thing we're in spoiler territory.

[01:47:45] That's why I wanted to talk about Ted and spoilers only when we see him return home. We don't see him back in a professional coaching role. He's literally just he's coaching Henry, you know, in a probably his middle school baseball team. It's it's a school baseball team.

[01:48:00] He's stepping up probably soccer or soccer. Yeah, baseball. Baseball. I don't know why I said baseball. Fuck is wrong with him. I'm just kidding. I love you. We see him kind of what is probably most likely a volunteer role

[01:48:14] because middle school colleges or schools don't pay their coaches. They pull teachers in and volunteers and parents to do it. I think he does rec. I think he does rec. I don't think that he actually if you're coaching position at a school,

[01:48:28] that means you work at the school. Oh, maybe so like a gym teacher or something. Yeah, I think that it's rec. I think that it's just he's doing community soccer. But again, it's not a professional sports team. Like he's not back coaching football.

[01:48:42] He's not coach back like coaching a major league soccer team. He's just doing rec. He has gotten to a point that we see Nate get to in this episode in that there are more important things. And when he gets home, he has them.

[01:49:00] When he gets home, he's also he also knows I didn't get to be Henry's dad for three years. He's making up time. It's time for me to to he has my guess, a pile of money from Richmond. He will never have to work again.

[01:49:19] In fact, I can see Rebecca being like, here's $10 million as a thank you severance. Or here are shares in ownership of the team because we know that she's about to sell off half the team or forty nine or forty eight percent of the team.

[01:49:35] What if Ted does own shares of Richmond? Like that's his way of taking Richard Richmond with him. Yeah. So he keeps Richmond with him as part owner. And let's just assume that maybe this happened, OK? Like, like, let's just it's a thought experiment. OK. OK.

[01:49:50] And he goes home knowing that he can just be a dad and the money will be there. Well, I will say to going on another scene from from the finale, unless he does it after he gets home,

[01:50:04] he does not own shares because he doesn't see that Rebecca did it until he's in the airport and he sees the newspaper. Right. Well, my guess is that Rebecca held shares for him. That could be a possibility because without there is no Richmond.

[01:50:19] There is nothing that Rebecca has right now would ever have happened if Ted hadn't come to England. Well, we see her try everything in her power to keep Ted there. Yeah. I think she even offered to like fly Michelle and Henry out.

[01:50:35] Yeah. Them up in, you know, castles or something like that. He offered to like get like, you know, like get her a job, get Michelle a job as a teacher and like let her get her degree. And like and all and Henry will go to the best schools.

[01:50:50] And right. Rebecca tries everything she can to keep Ted there. And there's nothing to say that he won't come back eventually. He could be a consultant. He doesn't have to be the coach, you know?

[01:51:03] But right now, Ted needs to go home and he needs to be a dad. Yeah. That that is everything for a kid. And it's also what is important to Ted in that moment? That is what's more important.

[01:51:22] What's important to Ted is is Henry and what Henry needs is his father. And so Ted knows he needs to go be a father for his son, who is the only important thing in his life. Really, truly. When you cut it all down, it's Henry. Yeah.

[01:51:42] You know, and Ted has gone on his own journey and he has grown as his own man. And he has been able to heal the trauma from his past in England. And so he can come home, a better man, a healed man, a family man.

[01:52:07] And there's just, I don't know. That's just really beautiful. I hate that he leaves. I hate that the show is over. I hate that I don't get these people in my life anymore. Like selfishly, I'm pretty pissed off that the show ended when it did. But.

[01:52:21] Everybody's story has naturally concluded. By the end of this. Yeah. Well, I mean, again, like we find out by the end of this show, by the end of this three story, three season arc that we know was always the intention of the writers.

[01:52:39] They had a story that was going to be told for three seasons. And that's the story that they told. And we get to the end of it and we realize it. And there's a great moment in that finale that we'll definitely dive into as well with Trent's book.

[01:52:53] And the renaming of Trent's book is that we find out that this show was was called Ted Lasso, but it was never about that. Never. Never about Ted. Ted was just a key component. It was never about that. Right. It was always about the team.

[01:53:11] Right. And I think that that's the message that Ted was trying to send the whole time anyways. This has never been about him. He has never made it about him. He has never wanted it to be about him. It still blows my mind.

[01:53:27] The brilliance of Jason Sudeikis and Brendan Hunt that this entire story, all three seasons, every one of these characters, every single one of them came from a series of sketches they did for ESPN. Who would have ever thought the first time you saw a short sketch of this

[01:53:52] hillbilly coach? Yeah. Doing a press conference and knowing nothing about soccer. I mean, lead TASO would turn. No, no. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who would have ever thought when you saw those sketches years ago, it would turn into this brilliant piece of storytelling that has won Emmys

[01:54:12] and has gotten these people so much notoriety and has done so many wonderful things for people. I couldn't have gone through gotten through the pandemic without this show. Me neither. Honestly, I could not have gone through this pandemic without Ted Lasso.

[01:54:31] I know this is something that probably should be said again when we finish the series. Yeah. But it needs to be said now, too. Like it just it needs to be said because we see that Ted's story has Ted's England story has ended. Yes. Yeah. How's that?

[01:54:52] Ted's England story has ended. Yeah. Ted's personal story is really beginning. In these last two episodes, it's it's hitting a peak because it's no, no, sorry. People, it doesn't do good for audio. I'm doing peak isn't like going up and then down. Ted's story is kind of.

[01:55:20] I can't even picture the wavelength because I don't want to say down and then up. Although, in a sense, it kind of is because there's a lot that Ted needed to realize about himself and his life.

[01:55:32] And then when he returns home, it's going to be back on an uptick. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I will think about it. We have a couple of weeks to think about it. But as far as this episode goes,

[01:55:45] I feel that Ted was unnecessary in this episode, but in the best way. Yeah, it's a good indication that Ted is not needed. The. I don't want to say not needed because he's definitely needed. But. Ted's influence is needed. Ted himself is not.

[01:56:08] I think maybe that's a way to put it like we could get by with a believe sign and a statue. His influence is already ingrained in this team. And now that it's there, Ted's not as important. Maybe not necessary. Necessary is probably the word importance, not the word.

[01:56:26] He's very important to that team and to those people necessary is the word. All right. Well, I think that we should end spoilers with that wonderful thought. All right. So then welcome back into everybody. Let's do some of our favorite quotes from the episode.

[01:56:45] And then we have a good amount of feedback that we're going to get to as well. And then we have a good amount of feedback that we're going to get to as well. I got one. Can I start? Yeah, go for it. OK. Hang on.

[01:56:57] I kind of go to a real quick. Hang on. Hang on. I'm very excited about this. Oh, where is it? Where is it? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here it is. Your sister is fit. I'll cut your eyes out.

[01:57:14] And I love in that moment too, that Jamie just starts laughing because he didn't, you know, he just did it to mess with Roy. He starts immediately laughing as soon as Roy responds. And you know, like he just did it to mess with Roy.

[01:57:29] I'll cut your eyes right out. I love a little bit later when in that conversation between Roy and Miss Bowen, when Roy realizes the mess he makes and he says fudge instead of fuck for starters.

[01:57:45] And then after he leaves, Miss Bowen just being Miss Bowen goes, I don't mind cleaning up a mess. Smooth move, fuckwitch. Yeah, I know. Come on, kids. Time to go back in. But the mouth on Miss Bowen is just and that I think that's one of the

[01:58:02] reasons why it would have been OK if there was like a Miss Bowen Roy ship. Yeah. Because she kind of is a little bit like Roy. She has that foul mouth. Yeah, she does. Fucking glitter. Fucking glitter. Smooth move, fuckwitch. Oh, God, what is it?

[01:58:25] Oh, the conversation between May and Keely. Now I'm going to get you some food because I can't have another sad skinny girl pass out in my pub. Fucks with me. Yelp rating. I love May so much. I love. Yeah, I do too. I love all.

[01:58:49] I love every single character. I just kept telling myself. I just kept saying all the time, oh, I love this character. Oh, I love this character like through the whole episode. I think I don't have the quote in front of me, but I think that

[01:59:01] everything that Nate's dad said to Nate after he played the violin was incredibly touching. Yeah, that whole that whole scene is just amazing. And I'm trying to find it just so I can kind of read it a little bit. Let's see. Well, you find it.

[01:59:22] We have we also have the why are you coming through the window? And he says you moved the key. There's the whole long speech that Rebecca gives. I have it. Oh, I know, but I don't know if we know we all know what it looks like. Yeah.

[01:59:45] Oh, I definitely went too far because I don't see it. There's the so I mean, so in the meantime, while I'm still looking for it is a shit. Where's my there is? So you're telling me it only shows up once a month and it never skips a month.

[02:00:06] Only if you're pregnant. Well, shoot, I got to check out this wine delivery service. Sounds like a real quirk. I do like that. I thought that was lovely. I love I love what they talk about, you know, and that

[02:00:22] that whole I don't know if it was that scene or if it was earlier when they're trying to get the guy where Rebecca is trying so hard to gossip with Ted and Trent is sitting there and Trent's like, you know what I heard blah, blah, blah.

[02:00:34] And and Rebecca is like right there. That's what I'm talking about. That's the kind of girl talk that we need Ted. Okay. Okay. So here's the speech with Nate and his father. After he says after he makes the excuse to come home,

[02:00:53] Nate says, sorry, sorry if I disturbed you. No, no, not at all. I really miss hearing you play. You do. Of course. Thought you hated it when I played. Why on earth would you think that because you literally said that to me once dad.

[02:01:07] You said I wouldn't practice enough how I was squandering my potential and wasting my privilege. You were given and then his father, you were given signs of you were given opportunities. I never had and so I expect that a lot from you.

[02:01:21] What scared the shit out of me. I know that now and I'm sorry. I didn't know how to parent a genius. You're brilliant son. You've always seen things other people couldn't and that's a blessing yet. I know it must also be a curse too, but you're right.

[02:01:38] I push you to be the best at everything even violin because I thought that's what I had to do. I thought that's what you wanted and Nate says, I just like I just like playing Nathan. Be successful. Don't be successful. I never cared about any of that.

[02:01:55] I just want to see my son happy and then that's that's the wish of any parent. Any parent worth their salt? Yeah, a lot of parents look at their kids as a possible meal ticket if they're good at something. But Nate was raised by two very good parents.

[02:02:20] You can see that you can see the care in both of his parents, you can see the love at the end with that card game. You can see that they were a family once and they are now a family again. And that's just beautiful.

[02:02:37] This whole episode was beautiful. Everything was just so lovely in this episode. Just these small quiet moments surrounded by big transformative changes. Yeah, growth. Yeah, transformation and growth like there are the two key words of this episode.

[02:02:54] Yeah, I have two more quick quotes and then we can move on to to feedback. All right. All right. Well, let's go ahead and wish our friends safe travels and Godspeed or whatever narcotic your deity chooses and self medical. A proper Ted Lassow line.

[02:03:13] I love to and then from happy Uncle Day. Phoebe told me that Uncle's Day is her favorite holiday of the year. Fuck off. Yeah, seriously, it was Uncle's Day, Uncle Roy's birthday and then perched and often the German holiday where

[02:03:31] people dress up as evil spirits and roam the streets in order to scare winter away. She might be an old soul, but she's a proper fucking dweeb, isn't she? You know what though? I mean, Roy is doing such a good job as a father figure to his niece.

[02:03:50] He loves that girl so much. Yeah, that's better. Yeah, him and his sister have a kid together. It's weird, but it's true. She might as well will be like that. She's he's her father figure. Yeah. And that's why that's why they have Uncle's Day because

[02:04:08] Father's Day wouldn't be appropriate and Roy wouldn't want to celebrate himself on Father's Day. So they made Uncle's Day. Happy Uncle's Day. So cute. I love I would like to think that that banner gets carefully put away and put back up every single year.

[02:04:26] That's made out of sheets of notebook paper. There's a very. I didn't notice it until second watch, but there is a very underlying line that shows that Jamie is also pretty good with kids. I'm trying to find it. I can I can kind of like.

[02:04:51] I think Jamie also just really likes Phoebe. I think so too. She's not like a regular kid. She's she speaks like an adult. There is so there's there's a scene. So in the scene where Phoebe goes to the door and brings

[02:05:07] Jamie in, you can hear him say like, is that your Range Rover outside? Like he's he's playing with Phoebe. Yeah. Like there's there's good indication that feet that Jamie is also probably really good with kids. And like you said, just likes Phoebe. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:05:24] You talk what would it be? Jamie isn't your best friend. You talk about him all the time when he says that it's like Jamie's like, oh really? And Roy has this like shut up and stop talking. It's such a great scene. I love that scene so much. Yeah.

[02:05:41] Well, there's so much goodness with Roy and Jamie coming up next week. I just like I can't even wait. And in the finale. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait. Can't wait. All right. We're over two hours already. So let's move on. Sorry. No, no, no, it's fine.

[02:05:58] We knew this was going to be a longer episode. So much there's and I much in this episode. I expect the next two to be the same because there's a lot to talk about as we get to the end of the series. Hmm.

[02:06:11] But let's dive into some of the listener feedback in which like I said, we have four voicemails. We have some Facebook feedback and we have an email. I want to start with that email. I got that we got because it's kind of generalized. So okay.

[02:06:25] I sent it over to you. So if you wouldn't mind reading it go for it. Ben and Kristen, I'm catching up on some revisited podcasts. I miss this summer. So I'm sorry this email is so late. I wanted to comment on some of the things I've heard lately.

[02:06:40] I had written in before and talked about relating to Kristen because I am a teacher, a fan of the West Wing and love Fragile Rock. You asked where and what I teach. I am a band director at a high school in Texas.

[02:06:51] I have previously written to the Walking Dead cast and have even guested on a couple of things with Jason. Awesome. For signs, Kristen went on a great rant about the lack of accountability in students today. I was shouting in my car in agreement with what she was

[02:07:05] saying the way schools have shifted to make parents the bosses of their kids education has baffled me. Teachers are always to blame and are seemingly dispensable. Administrations always take the size side of the kid. Never the adult.

[02:07:19] I was so sorry to hear of all you went through Kristen not fair to you at all. Thank you. For the strings that bind us. Excuse me for one second. Because it's true I went through a lot last year. You did. You did. Oh gosh.

[02:07:40] For the strings that bind us. I heard the announcement of the good place as your next show. I started to watch it based on your recommendation, but I think you meant to say West Wing. I am currently on my 30th watch.

[02:07:56] Re-watch and it is the show I have playing in the background all of the time. My kids have never seen it but can sing the theme song as it is always playing. So if you need a guest host for the West Wing, the real show

[02:08:09] you are covering next time happy to volunteer. I'll even start my own podcast on it with Kristen if Ben doesn't want to dive in. In all seriousness your podcast is amazing and makes my drive to and from work better every day.

[02:08:23] Thank you for all you do and I look forward to catching up. Namaste. Bye-bye. Mark Nichols. Thank you, Mark. That was wonderful and I have to tell you that as somebody who walks by the band room every single day, I commend

[02:08:39] you and your and your hearing and your ears for what you put yourself through every single day because I walk by the band room and I want to cry. So it is a testament. I am a band geek. I can say that cry.

[02:08:59] Yeah, you yeah, you got the Justin a little bit. I am a former band geek. I did it all through high school at some middle school all through high school even in the college. Band geek is a loving term for me.

[02:09:12] I don't think it's derogatory at all and so much though that I actually wanted to be a music teacher like that's how much of an influence music teachers and band directors can have on their students. It's a shame that the arts get attacked and they're usually

[02:09:25] the first things to go during budget cuts because of the test because of a testament that what the teachers can do and what they mean to students. I've mentioned this early in earlier episodes. I don't remember how long ago my music teacher from

[02:09:41] high school, my band director is somebody I still am in contact with to this day like friends on Facebook. That's awesome. So I love the friend any of my students on Facebook or otherwise. Well, I think it's one thing to do. It's been long for you. Yeah, yeah.

[02:09:58] It's what even when they're not still their teacher. Even what no, I even when they're not my my student anymore and like them the last day of school. I always get a few friend requests at the end of the year and I don't it's still too soon.

[02:10:12] No, yeah, I unless unless we have a you know, personal relationship, I'm not we're no, no. That's where I like I have to protect myself too. Yeah, because I'm pretty vocal on the social media that I do have pretty vocal about what I believe and I'm pretty

[02:10:32] sure that some of it would could get me fired at work. Yeah. Well, it's also it was well over like a decade right that my music teacher and I became yeah shout out to Adrian Mazar. Yeah, but I I love the fact that you're a band director like

[02:10:50] I just I love that I kudos to you man. I couldn't do it. Yeah. All right, we have a piece of faith Facebook feedback as well. So why don't you handle that too? This one won't make you cry. No, it won't. I just he's he's so funny.

[02:11:09] He's he's like, why don't you read that one too? I'll just press play on all the videos. My mic is on us no longer working. So I'm just going to hold it. Okay, here we go. The stand has broken. All right. Okay.

[02:11:22] Next piece of feedback we have is from Megan layman. Hi, Megan. I absolutely love this episode because I'm a sucker for anything like the Olympics where countries compete in international sportsmanship and because it gave us a glimpse into the wider world of soccer that our characters

[02:11:36] live in and a sense of what they might do in the future as they advance in their careers. My absolute favorite part of the episode was Danny becoming evil, which was played to perfect hilarity. Poor Sam left behind but not forgotten as his number is

[02:11:50] worn by his mates and the downtime allowed other characters to get up to mischief as well. Loved Rebecca coming full circle with Rupert trying to kiss her and her reaction was just pity, but her performance at the dinner was legendary. Totally agree. Totally agree.

[02:12:07] And as we're recording this, it is the Olympics right now. Yeah. And I'm kind of appropriate obsessed with the Olympics right now. So yeah, really good. I'm a winter Olympics guy like I summer Olympics girl. I appreciate I appreciate the summer Olympics, but I am

[02:12:24] totally a winter Olympics person. Yeah, I am my favorite sport in the whole world is Olympic swimming. I shout at the television for a week straight. It's awesome. Now, four years from now, I will be heavily more heavily invested in the summer Olympics because

[02:12:46] they will be here in the United States. Oh yeah, whatever. They're in LA. Yeah, I know and LA's got a big uphill battle to climb before they can even be ready. But that's a different conversation for a different day. That's all right.

[02:12:59] I mean, millions, millions of homeless people in LA. They don't know. Oh, I know. No, they don't know what to do. I mean, look, the United States is getting some really good stuff. I mean, and it's a matter, it's going to be a real

[02:13:13] good indication or interesting story to watch how they handle it because Olympics are coming in 2028. We've got the World Cup coming in the 2026. So, yeah, I mean, you know, there's some interesting stuff happening. Anyway, that leads us to the voicemails that we have

[02:13:35] in which Kristen says I get to just push buttons and that's fair. One good button real quick. Just one good button. The last time. No, the last time we get to play it. This is the last time we get to play it. Fuck no. No. I hate you.

[02:13:51] Let's go fight your fucking women. Wait, I know which one it is. I know which one it is. Jack just sucks. Yeah, she does. All right. Let's go on. Remember, she's just pooping. All right. Onto the onto the voice. All he does is push buttons, guys.

[02:14:15] But I do it so well. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But I do it so well. I pushed all the buttons last time I was there. Squirrel. All right.

[02:14:31] So this first one comes from our friend Jason, who actually leaves us feedback for the last two episodes. So this is for the locker room. One. I don't want to pronounce it because I'll mispronounce it. And for international breaks. Here we go. Hi, Ben and Kristen.

[02:14:47] This is Jason and San Jose giving feedback for La Laca Room. A full and international break after missing the deadline for the previous episode and the rescheduled date for the recording. I'm just getting around to adding my thoughts for episode nine La locker room.

[02:15:05] A full and I was so surprised that everyone missed the play on words for La Cajun. A full and not fall is anyway.

[02:15:16] La Cajun was a 1973 French far centering on confusion that ensues when Laurent, the son of a Saint-Tropez nightclub owner and his gay lover brings his fiance's ultra conservative parents for dinner. And La Cajun means the cage of mad women. Like I mentioned, this was a play in 1973.

[02:15:39] I saw the 1978 film in the early 80s with my parents and just it was hysterical. I just really, really loved it. It was later turned into a Broadway musical.

[02:15:52] The last piece of this episode, I am what I am comes from that musical and that bit of music received praise as a gay anthem. So yeah, this episode just really is an emotional one for me.

[02:16:07] I am a huge advocate for LGBTQ rights and the locker room speech that Ted Lasso gives, but it's not okay just to be okay with Colin being gay that we're there for support.

[02:16:22] And I have many, many friends in the LGBTQ community and I combat misinformation left and right on social media such as the Olympics, which is stirring up a shit storm right now.

[02:16:36] I have been having fun watching the Olympics and Ted Lasso has really given me a deeper appreciation for watching the football matches.

[02:16:47] Yeah, so I don't have much else to say on La Vaca Room off full besides it was such a huge episode for Colin and McAdoo as well.

[02:16:58] Yeah, I'll just say that I got choked up talking about Ted Lasso to a friend of mine the other day in the same manner that McAdoo at the end was saying, you know, what's wrong with me that you don't feel comfortable telling me this

[02:17:13] and Colin's reply about 99% sure that you would be okay with it but 1% scared the shit out of him. And I've had that conversation with a few people, including family members and my love is there and just really, really appreciated seeing how it was portrayed in this.

[02:17:34] So on to international break and this was a fun episode to watch, especially with the character switch for Danny Rojas just watching him turn on a dime into this vicious attacking player. And then at the end, with Zorro just being afraid of him. Oh man, that was hysterical.

[02:17:58] But this episode also had a lot of character growth for Rebecca for Roy, Raquely. Yeah, speaking of Keeley, I really love that Barbara chose to stay with her. It was a really touching moment and that Rebecca was generous enough to help out there.

[02:18:15] So much of this episode is about making amends, which is part of my 12 step program. Roy making amends to Keeley, Nate making amends to Will that little olive branch. And I really love seeing Nate with his violin.

[02:18:32] You know, for me in my addiction, my guitar has been my salvation and turning back to music is what helps lift me out of the fog. Yeah, I really felt for him in that conversation between him and his dad.

[02:18:47] I recognize a lot of the same things in the dynamics between me and my dad and me and my son. And lastly, I'll just chime in that it was so fun to see a Kufo getting his comeuppance.

[02:19:01] I really wish we could have seen the explosive nature of the food flying everywhere, but it was so fun just to see Rebecca and Rupert just laughing their asses off after they're just smattered in food. Really, really great.

[02:19:15] Anyway, I'm so sad that there are only two episodes left, but I'm really looking forward to watching mom city next week. And until then, this has been Jason in San Jose. Namaste, baby.

[02:19:31] I actually Jason, thank you for the explanation to of where the title of last week's episode come from. I wasn't also the inspiration for the bird cage. Thank you.

[02:19:41] Because when he was talking about him to say that too, when he was talking about the description of it and and everything, I was like, that sounds a lot like the bird cage. It is the bird cage. La caja de fol. Yeah, it's the bird cage.

[02:19:53] Okay, which I mean, Robin Williams. I mean, come on like it's everybody who knows me knows my love for Robin. So I love the bird cage that is that movie is so so well done.

[02:20:06] Nathan Lane is just amazing in that he's amazing and everything that he does because it's not in lane. True. All right, next feedback voicemail comes from our friend Greg who hasn't left us one in a while.

[02:20:20] And he has warned me this one's a little bit on the lengthier side. So let's go ahead and play that. Hello, revisited. This is Greg and I know I've been absent for a few weeks. But you know, shit happens and so does life and so do kids.

[02:20:38] A whole bunch of shit right anyway. I have a whole mess of thoughts about last week's episode. But I'm going to go ahead and talk about this one international break, which is, you know, one of those those prime, prime excellent episodes of the show.

[02:20:56] I'm going to start with my individual thoughts and then I'll get into a couple of specific points. What narcotic would your deity self medicate with? I think for me it would be spaghetti monster mushrooms. I think that would be my my preference.

[02:21:13] I will say that happy uncle's day and the line, well, you made me think it so it was basically the same thing cracks me up literally every time. I did want to when I miss Bowen mentioned, you know, you don't have to call me as Bowen.

[02:21:31] You don't know my name. I wanted to call her fuckwitch. That's who I remember. That's what I remember. Not onto a couple of the main points. I will say that Edwin a kufu has taken over as head to watch on the team or see me on the show.

[02:21:48] Rupert is still a twat, but he's obviously in this episode you kind of I'm not going to say you feel sorry for him because fuck him. But regardless, like a kufu is like that has become like the real villain at least up until this point.

[02:22:08] I did really enjoy the and this is something that I saw on Ted Lasso Easter eggs on Instagram. They they talk about Higgins references to Willy Wonka and then Edward a kufu shows up in a purple suit very similar to Willy Wonka's with Jean Wilder.

[02:22:28] And I thought that was really, really funny. The editing of Rebecca's speech during when she very specifically says making heroes and villains of ordinary men this game, right? But in this you see Jamie giving tribute to Sam wearing his number 24.

[02:22:51] He goes just showing the utmost respect for his teammate who, you know, he was kind of a villain in the beginning of the show and he has become a hero. And then it shows Nate, right?

[02:23:02] Is playing the violin and he was a hero who's made into a villain. It's just I just fucking chef's kiss is phenomenal.

[02:23:12] I will just say that Rebecca and Keely's friendship is is just so heartwarming every time I see scenes like this between them where I mean the line about, you know, can you imagine you got back together with Rupert after all the shit he's done.

[02:23:30] And then Roy is coming in the background. I thought it was I mean, it was very well done very well put together was very much he's standing right behind me as any. All right, on to the main event, right?

[02:23:44] Nate in this episode is I've always been a heavy Nate apologizer and I can appreciate you guys have you guys have kind of not changed your tune. But you didn't have haven't put as much hate on him in recent weeks.

[02:24:00] And I always have had a soft spot for Nate, even from the obviously when he first I first saw the end of season two. I was furious. But basically from the beginning of watching season three, like I empathize with Nate more. I did.

[02:24:22] I did think it was, you know, Jade being self-referential with regard to the Polish jokes. I thought that was actually quite funny and she was a superstar, right? But we need to get to give or they needed to give Nate room to grow on his own.

[02:24:40] So we had a plot device of having her move from the equation because she'd just be there to support him. But the scene between Nate and his dad really, really affected me.

[02:24:55] I have a I what I think of is a very good relationship with my father and I find myself very, very lucky in that. But it wasn't always that way. You know, when when I was a kid he he wasn't around very much.

[02:25:13] And it was because he was working or he was trying to go to school or he was trying to make my lives better or our lives better. And I but I found him because of his absences.

[02:25:25] I held this one very specific instance over his head and now I like I it kills me as a dad who's just trying to make ends meet to make things better for me and my kids. It's it's it kills me. It absolutely fucks me up.

[02:25:43] And holy fuck, I'm over five minutes. I am very sorry. But I've been loving the podcast and I will talk to you guys later. All right, bye. Can I tell you how much I love Greg's feedback? Thank you.

[02:25:59] I was it comes from such an honest and genuine part of himself. I was literally just about to say I love hearing Greg's feedback. I did not that did not feel like five minutes to me.

[02:26:11] Not not that I don't love hearing everybody's right back, but it's so like I just love Greg's voice. Like it's very well thought out his voice is fantastic. You have a voice for radio my friend. Yeah, so good job. Thank you, Greg. Thank you for all of that.

[02:26:30] We're not done. We got a couple more. This next one comes from our good friend, Alex. Hey, all Alex career here with feedback for Ted Lasso season three episode 10 international break. So I want to start with the Akufo League.

[02:26:43] Fun fact this storyline was ripped from the headlines because this almost happened a few years back. Now I'm not going to pretend that I know all the details, but if you look it up, it's a wild story. I have to say Sam Richardson is such a good actor.

[02:26:56] I somehow don't hate him even though this was the very first time I ever saw him in anything. And with how petty and evil he is normally, I would absolutely hate this kind of an actor. So hats off to him.

[02:27:08] Also Higgins great question are the kids dead in Willy Wonka? I would really like to examine this a bit. And was Edwin Akufo's purple jacket at the meeting a nod to Willy Wonka? I think it may have been next. I want to talk a little bit about Keely.

[02:27:23] I'd love to know more about the KJPR team other than the one guy in Barbara. Everyone else was just set decorations with the pulse. I love you Ben, but I'm team Kristen was wanting a spin off of these precise reasons.

[02:27:36] Speaking of Barbara, holy shout out to Juicy Coacher, which I have not thought about since what 2007. And how in the heck is this the first time Keely met May? What about the time they all went there with Rebecca's mother?

[02:27:49] If they went to the crown and anchor for that, Keely would have gone other times too. And I don't buy this being their first meeting, especially with how extroverted Keely is. And how much care May has to the Richmond side of things. I don't know. I'm calling bullshit.

[02:28:02] Nate and his dad scenes are so powerful. I think it's just another way that this show deconstructs a toxically masculine trope we see in society. I want more dads to follow the Danny Tanner way. And I understand Nate's dad saying he didn't know how to parent a genius.

[02:28:17] It's probably the nicest way to ever admit you screwed up. But if there is one takeaway for any dad or parent in general, don't push your kids in a way that makes them feel like a perennial failure. Remember to give them some accolades.

[02:28:30] You can push them and drive them, but do with compassion. Imagine how much psychologically stronger Nate would have been on this journey if his dad had this level of EQ 30 years ago. And now on for the rest. Holy shirt balls. Uncle's Day is in this episode.

[02:28:46] I 1000% did not remember that. And I also don't recall what happens with this. And maybe it's nothing, but I am shipping. Yes, I said it. Jamie and Roy's sister. I have to say when Danny Rojas was first introduced in season one,

[02:29:00] I really liked his personality, his dynamic and what he brought to the role. And I adore Christian Fernandez. So please don't interpret what I'm saying as slander in any way. I just feel like they diminished Danny Rojas over the final two seasons.

[02:29:11] He becomes as dumb as Roger Doran in the third major league. Ben, I'm telling you, give it a chance. The whole evil Danny thing this episode just doesn't land. And they never give him any depth beyond surface level.

[02:29:21] Again, give me the spin-off so I can get to know these characters better. Spin-offs can work. Speaking of which, did you start Frasier yet? Rupert's assistant, Olive Oil was named Miss Cakes. The new assistant's name is Miss Bread.

[02:29:34] I wanted to put that down and let you guys talk about if this is a quip or just some level of symbolism. Decadent cake versus bland bread. I don't know what the context. And lastly, just a quick aside. I wanted to say something last week,

[02:29:48] but Kristen, I did want to share my condolences over what has happened with your once beloved LaBrosse James Lois Lakers. I imagine it was not a magical draft weekend. But that's it for me this week. Keep up the great work.

[02:30:00] I am so fork and excited for the final stretch. Oh, that was it. Okay. Thanks, dude. Thanks for bringing that up. I appreciate that. It was such a good voicemail until you brought that up. Fucking brawny James on the Lakers. I just wanted to die.

[02:30:16] I just couldn't even believe it. That's the second reference to the second voicemail too that referenced the Willy Wonka thing that we didn't even bring up. And I have it in my notes too. I just didn't bring it up because we were,

[02:30:28] we talked enough for two hours about it. And I didn't even, I didn't even pick up on the purple suit like him wearing the purple suit as a potential reference to Willy Wonka. Yeah. Very Willy Wonka. I do like the fact that he did,

[02:30:43] that he picked up on Miss Bread and Miss Cakes. It's kind of like let Rupert eat cake maybe, but not because he's stupid. Oh, I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I did, I did like that. But I did have something that I wanted to say earlier

[02:31:01] that he talked about, well, whatever it's gone. I did not start Frasier yet. I haven't seen some Frasier either. I'm trying to, I finished up with Cheers. Frasier's on my list. I'm trying to wrap up a couple other shows I started first

[02:31:16] and then I'm going to jump into Frasier. Really? You're going to jump into Frasier? You're going to jump into Frasier even though I've asked you to watch a couple of different shows before that. Frasier is a casual watch. It's not a deep dive.

[02:31:29] Do you know how long it took me to watch 11 seasons of Cheers? Well, you know, that's on you. You decided to do that. Frasier is a 20 minute sitcom. It's an easy, like, watch. I'm going to watch The Wire, Kristin. And The West Wing.

[02:31:47] Oh, I need to restart The West Wing. And Peaky Blinders. We'll see. Each season of Peaky Blinders is six episodes. Like get your hat out of your ass. You can do that in a weekend. Have you started Sherlock yet? Or Chug? The one, Sherlock?

[02:32:04] The one with Benedict Cronk? Benedict Cronk? I've seen the first two seasons. Oh, then you need to finish it. Fuck out. All right. We have one more. We have one more. We're already long. All right. This last one comes, of course, from our friend Steve Brown. Hello, Kristin.

[02:32:26] And then this is Steve. And I just haven't finished listening to the episode nine podcast yet, but I wanted to comment, Kristin. You're so right. My opinion changed. Oh, this is Steve. Sorry. My opinion changed on Lost. And my opinion has definitely changed on Nate on watching

[02:32:43] how his story has progressed this time around. I've got a very much different perspective on Nate. I don't know how anybody else feels about it, but I love these three guys that do the whole soccer Saturday stuff. We're all these guys like praising Nate just a few weeks

[02:32:58] ago and now that he's gone, they're like, oh, he sucks. Oh, Sam didn't get picked for the Nigerian team. Oh, Danny, that intense, very, very intense to Van Damme there. Love that Rebecca's screenshot for Rupert when he calls us the devil. Oh, Jay, it always a perfect girlfriend.

[02:33:16] Then there's your answer and Nate, you made the right decision quitting your job. Oh, and the press is camped outside of Nate's house. Oh, well cue the sound drop, Ben, because apparently Jack closed the office without telling Keely.

[02:33:28] Oh, Danny in his shades and Van Damme on the same plane. Woo, that's an epic. Danny crushing the chips, but wouldn't Sam call them crisps? Excuse me, Van Damme call them crisps. The onion that is beard and all of his axes, 17. I forgot about Uncle Day.

[02:33:44] Aw, is it just me or has the actor's step place feeding grown quite a bit? Like, like a lot. I'm glad they didn't recast or anything, but it just seems funny to me. I've got about this that he rented the whole,

[02:33:56] the whole restaurant out and is being such a jerk to Sam right now. Edward Akufo, right? Francis just has to be a dick on top of it. Leslie running down all the list of people that Rebecca could have gone to besides him for advice. Hilarious.

[02:34:10] Yeah, I think those kids are definitely will. I'm on good too. Yeah, we're in the text from Jack to Keely. Love me. I can't have another skinny girl pass out in my pub. Mistake, red right hand playing while Roy's got that

[02:34:23] shirt on and that guy laughed at him. Not good. Danny just kicked the ball right into Van Damme's nose. I was able to read Rebecca's reply to Rupert that I'll be there for the meeting. Yeah, there was no way that Roy was leaving that shirt on the ground.

[02:34:36] Okay, not going to lie. The lioness moment from Rebecca and little Rebecca terrifying. What did Roy just figure out when Miss Bowen was Leanne was flirting with him and he just said, Fudge. So Edward Akufo sends the Russian guy out.

[02:34:49] I don't understand why was he there to begin with them? He just say an undry dream instead of a wet dream for, wow. That was a jerk. Nate plays the violin. What a great quote just because we own these teams doesn't mean they belong to us.

[02:35:03] Now I'm getting emotional here. The aftermath is the best. They had a food fight. Oh, and this conversation between Nate and his dad, I just want my son to be happy. Rupert, it was so nice until you tried to lean in for a kiss. Oh, great note, Roy.

[02:35:19] I have no clue. I don't remember how Roy and Keely end up. I don't know how much money that was, but the fact that Rebecca has it in cash. Wow. Wait, Roy. Oh, Roy was there the whole time. Oh, I forgot. Totally forgot about that.

[02:35:31] Oh, and Keely and Barbara back together again. Oh, and, uh, and Nate did the locker room up for Will. Oh, sorry about the length of this. This show is wrapping up and we're going into the home stretch here. Um,

[02:35:45] I think we all feel a little long, you know, where we all want to talk about this episode so much. So I'm feeling less bad about the fact that this recording is long because all the voicemails are also long. Yeah, I told you when before we started recording,

[02:36:01] I was like feedback's going to take about 20 minutes. I know, I know. Um, I do want to go back to cause while, um, Steve was talking, which Steve, I love every single one of your voicemail. So I'm not diminishing you here, but I did remember

[02:36:14] what I wanted to talk about from Alex's voicemail where he said that, uh, Danny was misused the last two seasons and he was too stupid or whatever. I don't think that that's the case mainly because one of his first episodes, remember when they were trying to

[02:36:29] figure out what the players were going to endorse and he just wanted to endorse joy. Joy. Mucho mucho joy. Like that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Right? I don't think he was ever supposed to be this smart complicated character. Football is life. I think that's his character.

[02:36:46] He is standing to the core. Yeah. So and, and his identity is rooted in football and he is a Mexican and anybody that I'm from Southern California originally. So I'm pretty in tune with Mexican culture. Look, as a white person, okay?

[02:37:04] I can't, I'm not the, the, the most informed person obviously cause I'm not Mexican, but I can tell you that that Mexican culture, their identity is Mexico. They are Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico. That's their culture. So you stick Danny playing for his country in a

[02:37:23] sport he believes is his life. Yeah, that's the Danny I think you're going to get. Yeah. But I could be wrong. Yeah. No, I agree with you. I have never looked at, at a Danny Rojas as like a secondary kind of like Rod, I mean,

[02:37:38] making the Roger Dorn comparison is a great comparison to anybody who is a major league fan because Roger Dorn's character changed from Major League one to major team major league two into this, into two and three, which is why he

[02:37:51] said give, give it a shot because I never watched major league three. I'm not going back to the miners, but no, I mean, I've never thought that way of Danny. I've always thought Danny is pretty much Danny Rojas like the entire time. Football is life. He's from Mexico.

[02:38:07] I think that that actually was all very in line with each other and probably maybe even discussed in the writer's room, maybe with the actor. Who knows? I don't know anything about Mexican football culture. I do know what I do know from living in

[02:38:25] Southern California, growing up in Southern California for the first 30 years of my life. And that is that they love their football. Mexicans love their football. I watched way too much Mexican football for years as a restaurant waitress. Yeah. When the restaurant was closed, football was on. Yeah.

[02:38:44] There are two places in the world that I take that as and they take the same way. Mexico is one of them. Mexico is all about football. Brazil also all about football for sure. I remember and Alex will appreciate this too when they announced that the Eagles season

[02:38:59] was going to start with them playing in Brazil, playing in a way game in Brazil. And I just remember turning the people in the room when I heard that and be like, you know, they have real football there. Right? Like not this American bastardized version

[02:39:13] of football like this. They have real football in Brazil. Yeah. And they are all about that shit. Yes, they are. So that game hasn't happened yet either. So we'll see how it happens. But thank you to everybody who left feedback this week. There are only two episodes left.

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[02:39:42] Or just email us directly feedback at RevisitedPod.com. If you haven't left feedback before, we encourage you guys to do so, especially for these last two episodes. Because we're going to be, it's going to be a lot to talk about in these next two episodes,

[02:39:59] which the next episode, Mom City, it's the penultimate. Good episode too. It's a great episode. Before we wrap things up, any recommendations for people at home? Quiet Place Day 1, man. I saw two nights ago who was... You watched a quiet place? Yes, I love that franchise. PG-13, man.

[02:40:22] Oh, so you just don't like rated R horror? I don't like unnecessary yuck. Okay. I still need to... I still need to see a Quiet Place 2. Which I know Killy and Murphy is in. So good. You know what? I love it because a quiet place, the franchise has...

[02:40:48] They have this trilogy that's, I think a lot like the Simon Pegg trilogy, where you have loose links to each of the characters, to the characters. We follow different characters really. Quiet Place 2 is still the family, the same family as Quiet Place 1. But we have Killy and Murphy,

[02:41:07] who is a central part of that story. And Jiman Honsu is also in Quiet Place 2. Jiman Honsu is in Quiet Place Day 1. But he's not a central character. He's not a central character in either of them. Well, it's not like...

[02:41:24] I appreciate the reference to the Simon Pegg trilogy, but the Simon Pegg trilogy is in the fact that like... It's just the same actors. It's not the same. It's the same actors. They are none of those three movies are set in the same world.

[02:41:37] Yeah, no, I understand that. But what I'm saying is, I guess, when I say it's kind of like it, is that it's not John Krasinski and his family on Day 1. Yeah. It's not Killy and Murphy on Day 1. It's a completely different story. Well, I mean, in that sense,

[02:41:54] I would maybe make a comparison then to the Cloverfield trilogy. Oh, yeah. I don't know that. Okay. So maybe that's what it is. In which they are... There's a Quinn is in the movie who played Eddie Munson in Stranger Things. Yep. And he's fantastic in this movie.

[02:42:10] The nonverbal... Because, you know, in a Quiet Place, it's a mostly silent movie, right? Yeah. Everything is mostly a silent movie if you know Quiet Place. The nonverbal communication that Joseph Quinn has with Lupito Nyongo. Is that how you say her last name? Lupita Nyonga. Yes. Nyonga?

[02:42:31] They're chemistry. They're a chemistry and their nonverbal communication with each other in this movie is incredible. And I don't say this lightly. I really, honestly, there is talent in Joseph Quinn that is untapped, that I'm really excited to see. I cannot wait to see him as Johnny Sworn.

[02:42:51] As the human torch. Yeah. Yes. I cannot wait to see him as Johnny Sworn. If there is more to him, there's more to him as an actor than these big horror type of movies, like Stranger Things and A Quiet Place. There's more to him than this Marvel Universe

[02:43:07] that he's about to step into. He has something in him that's remarkable. And I really... I just can't wait to see what he does next. You know what's funny too, as far as the fantastic forgo too. Like, I was very familiar with him.

[02:43:23] I was very familiar obviously with Pedro Pascal with Vanessa Kirby. But I was unfamiliar with Ibn Masbackraq who was announced as playing thing until I started watching The Bear. He's also in the Mandalorian and he was brilliant in The Punisher. Well, yeah, because he was... He was a...

[02:43:42] Weasel? Not Weasel. I know who he was in The Punisher, but I never watched that. And who was he in Mandalorian? No, I'm sorry. He was an Andor. Which I never watched. Which is bullshit. I'm not a Rogue One fan. I don't care. You need to see Andor.

[02:44:01] I don't care. You need to see... It has nothing to do with Rogue One. I know him now as Richie from The Bear. Because so that's like, now I know who he is from... Yeah. For fantastic for it. He's fantastic. Everything that he does...

[02:44:18] I love him as Richie. I've watched his career over the years with interest as well. Like every time I see him, I'm like, fuck yes, I love this guy. So I'm always happy when he gets work and he is brilliant in The Bear. Yeah. He's great as Richie.

[02:44:32] But yeah, quiet please day one. Awesome. All right. My recommendation for the week is... So I've had friends that have been recommending this series to me for a little bit and I ended up watching... Frasier? No, it's not Frasier.

[02:44:46] I ended up watching all six episodes in one day. So Netflix has been playing around with live television. They've been doing more and more of it. They've been doing live stand-up specials, live sporting events pretty soon. WWE is actually moving to...

[02:45:01] Monday Night Raw was moving to Netflix at the end of the year. Netflix is trying to get their people back since they, you know, shot on their people? Regardless, a couple months ago, they did a talk show. There was only six episodes,

[02:45:18] but it was called Everybody's in LA and it was hosted by John Mulaney. And it was a talk... It was a talk show format. It was hosted by John Mulaney with the announcer person being Richard Kind, who anybody who knows Richard Kind is just like, he's a treasure.

[02:45:36] He's an absolute treasure. And all it is, is him bringing on... It was taking place during Netflix's big content and Netflix's big comedy special, our comedy festival in California. So he was like, you know what? While everybody's here, while all these comics are here in California,

[02:45:55] we're just going to do a talk show. I'm going to bring them on. I'm going to bring on some actual, like intellectual people and everything. And we're just going to see where it goes. There was... It's John Mulaney's case for wanting to be on the Daily Show. Yeah.

[02:46:09] Funny enough, John Stewart is on one of the episodes as a guest. Weird. He's on the first episode. So like episode one was... And everything had to do with something pertaining to LA. So episode one was Coyotes. And that's... Yeah. And he had on a comic

[02:46:27] and a national wildlife person. And it was just like, we're just going to see what happens. And it is brilliant. It is hysterical. It's only six episodes. And John Mulaney said from episode one, his monologue in the first episode is like, we're only doing six episodes of this.

[02:46:48] And then we're done. I don't have to worry about anything after this. And he has become very open about everything that he went through with the rehab, with the baby, everything. I've always thought Mulaney is a brilliant comic. I love him. His bit on Xanax, the Xanax story.

[02:47:10] I don't know if you've ever heard it. It's 10 minutes of pure magic. It is the best routine that he has is his Xanax story. But even... Like they did an episode about... The theme of the episode was helicopters. Because there's always helicopters flying over LA. That's true too.

[02:47:29] And at one point, somebody made a joke about how like they were wondering who was higher, helicopters or John Mulaney. And like he laughs right along with it. Like he knows he had problems. He's very open about it. He's open about the rehab.

[02:47:45] And I think ever since he's gone through it and been open about everything, I think he's become even more brilliant when it comes to comedy. A lot of people relapsed during COVID. He didn't though, I don't think. Or did he?

[02:47:57] I think it was women that shepherd that like relapsed hard and yeah. If I, yeah, I get it. You know, COVID stuff. But it's only six episodes. They're hour long episodes. They were done live on Netflix. And he had an open phone line.

[02:48:15] So people could call in and share stories about coyotes or helicopters. It is so good. It's John Stewart literally has no idea what's going on half the episode. I love it. He's like, what? I have two really good coyote stories too.

[02:48:31] So that's funny because I think if you're from California, you have coyote stories. Because the minute you said they could share coyote stories, I was like, I have two. One of the people called in to share a story about

[02:48:43] how they woke up to find a coyote in their apartment. Yeah. Like in their bedroom standing on their dresser. And then the craziest part of the story was like, she's like, no, I'm not done. I live on the second floor. It was, I highly recommend it.

[02:49:04] It's called everybody's in LA. It's so well done. I'm so glad I finally watched it. Oh good. I'm going to put that on the list for sure. So any final notes before we wrap things up? Apologies again for a longer episode,

[02:49:16] but we had a lot to talk about. Anybody that's still listening to us right now. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for still being here. All four of you. Any final notes before we wrap up? No. Okay.

[02:49:31] Then with that being said to those of you still listening, thank you for everything, for always being a part of this journey, for subscribing, for listening, for feedback, sharing it, telling your friends about it, which we hope you continue to do.

[02:49:44] We've only got two episodes of Ted Lasso left, but we're far from done because we have a good place coming up and we've got more shows on the list we want to do after that. So we're going to keep this train going for a little while longer.

[02:49:58] But until next time, see you guys back out on the pitch. Take care. Namaste.