Episode 140: TED LASSO S03E11 "Mom City"

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Episode 142

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[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Ah!

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh...

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Oi!

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[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Boomeroo now!

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Somebody is in trouble.

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Hmm...

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Shoutings Roy's love language.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Ah!

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[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright, listen up.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This is not the week for your Mr. fucking humble great teammate bullshit.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We got city on Saturday, so we need you to be the prickiest prick you've ever been in your little prick life.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You understand?

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't want you...

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa!

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What is wrong?

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know!

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you fucking dying or some shit?

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I'm just tired.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But I can't sleep and I can't eat and I wash me out but I don't use any conditioner anymore because I'm like what's the fucking point?

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the guy in the Red Bull commercial was pushing that big rock up the hill but he's lost his wings Roy.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, I feel like I've lost my wings Roy.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Where have you put my wings Roy?

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Well?

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Goodman.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Welcome to another episode of the Revisited Podcast.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm Ben.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Kristen with special guest, Black Cat Smigel right next to me.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: This week we are revisiting Ted Lasso season three episode 11 Mom City, the penultimate episode of the series.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this is...

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_07]: It's getting real that we're almost done with this thing.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And I want to say too, we've been talking that we were going to have people come on for these last couple episodes.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_07]: But like scheduling hasn't worked out because we're recording on a different day this week so we didn't want to interrupt people's schedules to try and figure things out.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_07]: However, we're throwing around the idea of doing an episode in between finishing Ted Lasso and starting The Good Place where we're actually going to bring on a couple people.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's just going to be kind of like this recap of the show.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to talk about some of our favorite moments from the entire series, some of our favorite characters from the series and probably even like what...

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, because we've talked about it a lot as we record.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_07]: But you know, we'll talk a little bit about what like the show is meant to people and things like that.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_07]: So we know we've had a number of people who've wanted to come on.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So this is a good opportunity to just kind of bring everybody on at once.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And if we can figure out the scheduling for it.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? I am in for just a roundtable talk about Ted Lasso as a whole.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And I love the... Like we've had Alex on. He's been wonderful.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Greg, I am just dying to get on this show.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And my old podcast buddy Jonathan... Not Jonathan, sorry, James from...

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Every time.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I do. I don't know why. It's because we already have a Jamie Dimick friend.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And so the fact that we added on a James Dimick friend really messed up my brain.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So I apologize to James and Jamie Dimick if you are listening.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_07]: And Jonathan, since you keep confusing him...

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what it is that I just love Jonathan so much.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I just have to mention him by name.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I've told him this directly.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I could listen to Jonathan read the phone book.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_07]: And just be relaxed.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He could read my textbooks. Yeah, totally.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: He's wonderful and he's just so kind and genuine.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I recorded an entire season of Ahsoka with them.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And I always felt welcome.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I always felt a part of...

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Because James and Jonathan are really good friends.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: They've known each other for years.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They never ever ever made me feel like I was out of the loop.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And that is hard to do.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That is hard to achieve when you have close friends

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and you have like a third wheel joining you.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah. Because I mean, just look at the two of us.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_07]: We've been recording for a number of years now

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_07]: and we both feel like we're out of the loop of each other.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_07]: No, but we're going to try and put some fit together.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Like as you said, like a round table discussion.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Just kind of like a final wrap up of everything

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_07]: before we jump into the good things.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I do want to talk about some of these characters

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: just as a whole.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Not even the characters,

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: but what the show really meant to me.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was able to repair my relationship

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: with my parents because of this show.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_07]: It's funny because I rewatched...

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_07]: We've talked about this a number of times already,

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_07]: but like this particular episode,

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_07]: we talk about how we watch it once as like a fan

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_07]: just to kind of remind ourselves about what happened

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_07]: and then we watch it again.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Usually the morning of our recording

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_07]: to kind of take our notes on everything.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And I didn't watch it last night.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I watched it the night before

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_07]: and my mother was actually here.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_07]: So my mom was actually watching the Mom City episode with me.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Aw, with mom.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And my mom knows how much I love this show,

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_07]: but there were moments at the end of the episode

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_07]: where I was starting to get choked up

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and I was starting to get teary-eyed

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_07]: and I don't do that often in front of my mother.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_07]: And my mother looked over at me and she saw it

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: and she looked at me.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: She's like,

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: this show really does mean a lot to you, does it?

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, yes.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Like why do you think I have a believe sign

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_07]: above my front door of my apartment?

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Does she not watch the show?

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh no, she saw it and loved it.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just so funny to me

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: because I just feel like everybody that's seen the show

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: has been affected by the show in one way or another.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_03]: In a good way, not in a bad way.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So we're going to talk,

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_07]: we're going to hopefully have some people on,

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_07]: like you said, Roundtable to kind of discuss that with them,

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_07]: get their thoughts on it a little bit more.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk maybe if opinions changed

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_07]: on certain characters like they have with us.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_07]: And we'll see if we can put it together

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_07]: and have it for you sometime in the next couple weeks.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be so fun.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But we only have two more episodes of the show itself

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_07]: to talk about including this one.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to go ahead and say,

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: well before I say that, as usual,

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: this is a spoiler free podcast.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We do talk about spoilers later in the show.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You can, if you would like to avoid that,

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: you can always just go into the show notes

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: where Ben has very kindly put in the show notes

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: where to avoid spoilers.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I, it's funny

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_07]: because this is the last time we get to say that too.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, we're just going to talk about it all.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And really, it's all one major spoiler.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think I have it.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think I have anything.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for this, for this week?

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a little.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_07]: So we'll do one, but it'll probably be relatively short.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a little and you know,

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I could change my mind in the next 10 minutes

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_03]: as anybody who knows me will tell you.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: This is also true.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to say before we get started

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: that you know there's been,

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I try to go back and I reread

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_03]: all the initial reaction episodes,

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes, articles, right?

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I read varieties this morning and vultures.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And what was interesting to me was how everybody,

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: collectively after first watch,

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: they agree on two things.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: One of them is nobody forgives Nate that quickly.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And number two was that the ending was rushed.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I disagree after watching this again.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I disagree about Nate.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that his redemption was actually,

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: it was a very slow and nuanced burn.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that you would have to really rewatch the show

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: with Nate's redemption arc in mind to see it.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Just like in season two when you and I were like,

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted messed up there.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoops, Ted messed up there.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't see that the very first time.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't see the validating reasons why Nate was so upset.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, because Ted was our hero the first time around.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Like he, you know,

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: was, oh, absolutely.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But with all heroes, you know, heroes are fallible.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: They did they do make mistakes and Ted makes a lot of mistakes

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: just like Nate did.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But the second thing that I do still agree with is that this

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: ending is rushed.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: We needed one more episode, I think.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think one more episode would have pasted out enough that

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: we got beard and Nates.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk about this later.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Beard and Nates forgiveness scene was epic.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have liked to have seen that explored a little bit more.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that given another episode,

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: we could have had it explore just a little bit more because

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I just needed a little bit more.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why and I don't know why yet.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe with us talking, it'll, it'll happen.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Also the three boys showing up at Taste of Athens for the

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: first episode, just out of the blue saying, yeah,

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: we all want you back.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That was out of the blue.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_07]: I see.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_07]: I disagree with you on both points and I do have notes on

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_07]: both of them to kind of back up my stance on that.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But okay, but, but more than that, I mean, putting,

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: because I want to finish this point before we go.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you put Nate aside, I think that I would have

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: liked to have seen more of a conversation with Ted and

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: his mother to really understand the gravity of what

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: they were talking about because I just really felt like all

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: the drama and suspense surrounding the one sentence

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: your son misses you was just, I don't know.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I was like, okay, like, are you dying because

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: you're really acting like you're dying?

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_07]: But then you and I saw things very differently this

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_07]: time.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But we didn't get a lot of Rebecca either.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And we get kind of an aside with, with, with Rebecca.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: See, and this is why I want to talk about it in

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: spoilers just because I feel like I would have really

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: liked one more episode.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: How's that?

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I just really would have wanted one more episode.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I love this episode.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to get a lot more Rebecca in the finale.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Rebecca is a huge part of the finale.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I understand that.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I understand that.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted one more episode.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I know, look, I know a lot of people wanted like a whole

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_07]: another season of this.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_07]: I know you on top of that.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You wanted more with these characters.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I feel it a little differently.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Like even watching these episodes again, it's funny

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_07]: because when I was watching mom city with my mom the

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_07]: other day and we finished it, she's like, you're

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_07]: going to watch the finale.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, no, I already feel bad just getting

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_07]: choked up in front of you.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to flat out ball.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you're looking at me and judging me.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like, like, no, like I don't want like

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_07]: freaking waterfalls coming out of my eyes as like

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_07]: you're sitting here watching it with me because

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_07]: that's what's going to happen.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The finale is a tear jerker for sure.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: No, listen, don't get it twisted.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I love this episode.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's beautiful.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Jamie is perfection in this episode.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: There are just a few little if we're, if we're

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_03]: talking about the rushed aspect of it because

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I did read a lot of articles that a lot of people,

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, in 2023 were just like not having it.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they were just like this is just

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_03]: it's way too short, blah, blah, blah.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Fine.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_07]: It's so, it's so weird of it to have that thought

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_07]: though because this is still one of the highest

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_07]: rated episodes, not just of the season but

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_07]: of the series.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's because it was ending.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We all knew it was ending.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We all knew there was one more episode and we

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: just didn't feel like it was enough.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I could see that being the excuse for

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_07]: the finale itself.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: But if this, if people felt like this was an episode

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_07]: that was rushed to kind of just kind of push us

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: to the finish line, man, people like critics are

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_07]: they let you know.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Look at Game of Thrones.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, people were not nice about Game of Thrones

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_07]: feeling like they were rushing to the finish line.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like if that was the case with Ted

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Lasso, it would have been the same aspect.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_07]: People would have been known this would this

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_07]: episode would not have been rated as high as it was.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_07]: If people, if it was the overall consensus

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_07]: that this was an episode to just rush us

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_07]: to the finish line.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the difference between Game of Thrones and

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted Lasso is that Ted Lasso didn't disrespect

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: their fans.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_07]: This is also true.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_07]: This is very, very true.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, what Ted Lasso did was nothing short

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: of remarkable.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that we all just want more shows

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: at the end proves how amazing the show is.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So we're not saying that about Game of Thrones.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: We all wanted it to end and die and have David

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Benioff and D.B. Weiss go into a pit to be haunted

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: by dragons for the rest of their life, you know?

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: When people start talking about the three body

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: problem, they're like, oh, are you going to

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: watch this?

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, have you guys like forgotten what

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: happened in 2019?

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: These are the same show runners that let us

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: down five years ago.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not watching the show.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's funny because Nerdist just put out an

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_07]: article I think a day or two ago.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: It might have been actually yesterday.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Kind of teasing the fact that there could

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_07]: potentially still be a fourth season of

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted Lasso, but it's up to Sedecas.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_07]: And I like, I hate articles that post

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_07]: headlines like that because you know they're

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_07]: done purely for clickbait.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And I went in and I like what more

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_07]: people should do is read the actual article.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't just read the headline and share it because

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you don't know what you're sharing.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Click on the damn article and read the article.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_07]: And I read the article and it was a recent

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_07]: interview with Bill Lawrence, who was one of

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_07]: the co-creators of the show, also created

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_07]: co-created scrubs.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And somebody asked him like, hey, is there

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_07]: a possibility that there could be more

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted Lasso?

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And Bill Lawrence simply replied like, hey,

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_07]: we've always been open to do more, but

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_07]: this was ultimately Sedecas' decision.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_07]: He was the one that wanted to end the story.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what it said, but yet it was

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_07]: taken that, oh, we could do more of Sedecas.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Like stop giving people false hope.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_07]: This show I know people want more.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_07]: The show is finished.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_07]: The story is done.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_07]: They're not going to come back and do more.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I know that's harsh.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_07]: But in revisiting all of this,

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm satisfied with the way the show ended.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I think the story was finished beautifully.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_07]: As much as I would have loved to have seen

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_07]: more of these characters and still love

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_07]: to see more of these characters,

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm satisfied.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad there's not a lot of these

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: characters that are doing anything

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: else right now.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm always in their IMDb and I'm just

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: looking for Phil Dunstier to do something

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: or Trent Crimm to do something

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: or anybody, everybody's just

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: sitting on their Ted Lasso money

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and doing nothing.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Keely and Danie.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Waddingham is everywhere.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Waddingham is anywhere.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Juno Temple and Christo are both

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_07]: in the new Venom movie,

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_07]: which I apologize for them being

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_07]: in that movie.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not watching a Venom movie.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Me neither.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Tom Hardy and I'm not watching

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: a Venom movie.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_07]: They're both going to be in the

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: upcoming Venom movie.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, I'm not going to see it.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I love comic book movies.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Those movies are garbage.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm not going to see it.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: We just watched a, because we just

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: had Debbie roll through here yesterday,

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: which you know was just a thunderstorm

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: for us in the mountains.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_07]: We've got her here now so we know.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: A friend of mine called her Debbie

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Downer yesterday and I almost died.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No, my cousin did.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That was my cousin.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, we watched

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Infinity Wars and End Games yesterday.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Really?

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because why not? We were at home.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It was raining. What else were we going to do?

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_07]: There is a, I don't know if you've

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_07]: seen this or not and I,

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_07]: it's on my server.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a fan

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_07]: at it. I know we're already off

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_07]: topic and we'll get back to it.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I promise. I know, but they don't have the.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_07]: They don't have the women coming together,

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_07]: which pisses me off.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because misogyny is everywhere just

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: at. Never mind. Okay, let's talk about

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: anyway, let's talk about

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: where do you want to start because I started last

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: week. So where do you want to

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: start?

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_07]: You know what, let's start with Nate because

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_07]: we did talk about you kind of did bring that up

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_07]: a little bit and that is kind of at the beginning

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_07]: of this episode because right

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_07]: after we see Ted's mom arrive, which is

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_07]: probably the core of the rest of

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_07]: this episode. The other big thing is

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_07]: we kind of hinted at this last week is that

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_07]: this is another big week for Nate.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Huge week for Nate.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_07]: And we're seeing a new

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_07]: side of Nate that's inside of Nate that we

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_07]: actually like and it's Nate

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_07]: because we see Nate. He's working

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_07]: at Taste of Athens after everything that has

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_07]: happened with him in West Ham United

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_07]: and leaving and

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_07]: ever like rekindling everything with his

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_07]: family like he did last week and kind of

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_07]: getting back to the simple things.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_07]: We're seeing Nate is

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_07]: he is a in a place where he

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_07]: is enjoying simplicity.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_07]: He's happy. He's happy

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: in simplicity. He's

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_07]: waiter. He's a server at this place.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_07]: He's excited about the fact that

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_07]: he's making money for

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_07]: the bar by giving peanuts, by

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_07]: giving nuts away because it brings it and

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_07]: makes people thirsty and they buy drinks

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_07]: like which is actually very brilliant.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we just agree that Nate would

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: have owned Taste of Athens within a

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_03]: year? Well, 100.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Derek would have sold him that

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_07]: place within a year or two.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_07]: He would have owned it. He was so good

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: at that job. Yeah.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_07]: He was already making the money just

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: with peanuts. That's where Jade was like, you have to go because

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: this can't be our life.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_07]: But you know, like I

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_07]: love like the Jade part of this

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_07]: whole aspect too. Like we're seeing him

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_07]: he's working at

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Taste of Athens. He's happy

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_07]: and one of the things I picked up

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_07]: on the second

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_07]: watch when I rewatched this morning

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_07]: that I didn't pick up on the first time

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_07]: or even the other times too.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a big

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_07]: there's another really big change in Nate.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_07]: There's that moment

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_07]: where he's helping that couple

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_07]: and Derek comes up and is like, do you know

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_07]: who this guy is? Or do you know

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_07]: who this guy was? He's like

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_07]: and the guy, the customer is like, oh yeah

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_07]: you're the wonder kid.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_07]: This is the first time Nate ever

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_07]: admits he said

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_07]: wonder kid.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I said that

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_07]: every other time he's like

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_07]: well I said wonder

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_07]: kid, not wonder kid. He's always

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_07]: been correcting people even though

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_07]: he really did say wonder kid.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_07]: He said it incorrectly.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_07]: He's owning up to it for the first

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: time. Well it's amazing

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: to me what

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: validation

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: from your parents will do

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: to a child

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_03]: no matter how old they are.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He needed to hear

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: the words from his father last week.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He needed to feel that his

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: home was his home

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: where he could be safe, where he could

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: feel good about himself and he never felt

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: that way. I mean you can tell by the way

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: he went in through

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_03]: the back window last week because

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: he didn't want to wake up his parents

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: because he didn't want to be a bother

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: because he didn't want to disappoint his dad yet

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: again. I'll bet

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: that if he came to the house now

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: he would bang on that door until somebody

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: opened the door because that's a safe spot

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and he would feel safe.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Or he'd remember where the key is.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_07]: No they moved the key remember?

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I know but now he probably knows where

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah or they gave him a key but what I'm saying

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: is that that's a difference

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in his psyche. From one week

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: to the next, he is no longer

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: hiding under the table while everybody

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_03]: celebrates. He's no longer

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: sneaking through the back window

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: of his own childhood

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_03]: home. He has

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_07]: come to accept who he is.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_07]: There's no more

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: embarrassment. All of who he is.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. All of it.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And I love

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_07]: throughout this entire

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_07]: episode the running theme is

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_07]: every time he goes to brag about

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Jade being his girlfriend

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_07]: She's gone! She's gone.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like I swear

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a girlfriend I'm not

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: making this up.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love it when Isaac shows up

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and he goes did you burn through all

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: your money already?

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He just cannot imagine why he works

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: in a restaurant.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And he admits like I just

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_07]: like working here.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean it's not like he has

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_03]: it's not like he went Joey Tribbiani

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and he bought like all these you know

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: weird things in a brand new apartment

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: in New York. He still lives in the same

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_03]: apartment. He still has a very simple life

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: he doesn't need the money.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He just wants to spend more time with Jade.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: How cute is that?

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Well I mean he's at a point in his life

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_07]: and we kind of touched on this a little bit last week

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_07]: that like in going back to the simplicity

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_07]: of it all in being stripped

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_07]: of everything whether it's the job at West Ham United

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_07]: literally the only thing he had

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_07]: was Jade and then he improved

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_07]: his relationship with his family and now

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_07]: he has everything he needs.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_07]: He has his tribe.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't need anything else

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_07]: anything else after this is just a

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_07]: bonus. Yeah.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's able to say no to those three boys.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They said we all took a vote.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We want you back. I mean granted

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: they're like no we have to

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_03]: still talk to Ted

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: but I think Nate would

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: know that Ted would welcome him back anyways.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I do too.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But Nate needed

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: he didn't know what he needed

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: obviously what he needed was Beard

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: to come to him but

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Nate knew that

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: that wasn't going to do anything

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: for him positively

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: if he were to come back

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: just because these three guys came

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: to ask him to come back. I think

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: that the way that he came back was a

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: lot more organic and we got to see

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: the fact that Nate likes himself

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: enough at this point to say no

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: to going back to his dream job.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_07]: And what I love about the Jade

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_07]: aspect of everything too is like when you watch

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Jade in the background of all these scenes

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_07]: like her like watching Nate

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_07]: interacting with Colin, Isaac

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_07]: and Will and then him

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_07]: watching the game on the television a little

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_07]: bit later on. Like Jade

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_07]: knows now like

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_07]: going back to Richmond

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_07]: is a possibility

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's not something that he needs

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_07]: she knows it's something that he wants

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_07]: because I don't think

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_07]: he needs it at least not in his

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_07]: eyes he doesn't need to go back

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_07]: that's why he tells them no he doesn't need it.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I think

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_03]: he does need it he just doesn't know

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: it because he doesn't want to

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_03]: screw up all the progress that he's

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_03]: made I think that there's a difference between

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_07]: that. Maybe okay I can see it like that

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_03]: because he was he abandoned

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: the job that he was very good at

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_03]: to watch that crucial moment

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: in the football match.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_07]: And there's even more indications

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_07]: of that too in this episode like when he

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_07]: watches the game he's watching

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_07]: the game and he immediately is like oh Colin's

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_07]: open like he's watching it

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_07]: from a coach's eyes he's not watching it

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: as a fan. And he sees that

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: exactly what needed to

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: happen happened which means

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: this team has grown

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_03]: which means that like

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: he sees the changes in that team just

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_03]: like and he celebrates the

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: goal he doesn't get mad that it happened

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: without him he celebrates the goal

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: he celebrates the team

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: he's like yes I knew it I knew

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_07]: it you know what and I think there's a

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_07]: part of and I think there's a part of

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate that realizes too that

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_07]: you know a lot of that

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_07]: growth and it's not selfish at all for

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_07]: him to think this it like it's a boost of

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_07]: confidence if nothing else that he sees

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment like how much that team

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_07]: has grown he was a part

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_07]: of that growth.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_07]: You know like he was somebody

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_07]: who actually helped that

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_07]: team grow into what they are and

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_07]: he misses that. Yeah

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: but he also celebrates that

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because in the beginning of the season

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: any success

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: excuse me of the hiccups any success that

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Richmond had he took it personally

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_07]: well that's because

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_07]: he was still in a spiteful

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: 100% but I guess my point

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: is that we are watching the

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_03]: completion of Nate's

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: journey in this episode

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: he has he's completed

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: this redemption arc

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and his prize

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: is Beards Forgiveness

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_07]: so before we get to that

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_07]: we're not going to know what no yeah

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: that's later but I just want to

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_03]: stick a pin in this and just say his prize

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: at the end of this journey

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: is Beards Forgiveness which

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: is I think

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: almost impossible to get from this

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_07]: man. I agree with you

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_07]: and you're right like this is

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_07]: you kind of hit the nail on the head

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_07]: a little bit this is the end of

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate's redemption arc

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_07]: well

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_07]: there's one more thing that has to happen

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and we

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think it's as significant

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_07]: no it's not it's basically just an emotional

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_07]: note yeah

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_07]: that adds to this story when it happens

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: right

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: because yeah

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_07]: we can talk about that in spoilers or we'll

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_07]: just wait until next week

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_07]: let's just not have spoilers we'll

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_07]: just wait until next week for I'm fine

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_07]: with that for the most part

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_07]: 99%

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_07]: complete

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate's redemption arc

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Beards Forgiveness

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: is so much harder to get than

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted's so

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_07]: well because the one last person that needs to be

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_07]: apologized to as we kind of

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_07]: is Ted and we kind of touch

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_07]: based on it Nate already knows deep down

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_07]: he's forgetting I think he also needs

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_03]: to apologize to Rebecca but you know

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: whatever who am I to say anything

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_07]: he called her a shrew this is also true

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_07]: he called her a shrew

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: just in case anybody has forgotten

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: called Rebecca shrew

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_07]: but you know continuing on with Nate

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_07]: we talk about that moment where Isaac

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Colin and Will show up

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_07]: at the store I am

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_07]: that it was Will I was just going to say

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I am 100%

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_07]: convinced that the driving

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_07]: force to bring Nate back to Richmond

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_07]: was Will

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_07]: because of that apology

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_07]: that Nate left last week

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: but the kit man brought

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: the kit man's old bullies

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_07]: well they were the two people that I think needed

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_07]: to be seen more than anybody

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't even think that

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Will knew about that

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_07]: probably no because Colin and Isaac had

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_07]: changed before Will had come in

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: but I they were better people

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love that you have to really understand

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: the story understand the past

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and understand these characters to know that

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Colin and Isaac

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: showing up

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: was

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: better than any other two players

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: that could have shown up even including Jamie Tart

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_07]: they were the two that needed

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_03]: to be there these were the two

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: because they

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: were so awful to him at

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie's request right

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: like Jamie was just a dick we all know

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie's just a dick not anymore

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_03]: but you know Jamie's going to be

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie Jamie's going to Tart

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie's going to Tart

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm going to make it

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a crinket now

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to make it today actually

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: but Colin and Isaac showing up

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_03]: and saying we want you back

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I just

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I just loved that I loved it

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: with the kit man

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_07]: and the fact that it was a unanimous decision

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_07]: except with the exception of

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_07]: bumper catch because he's Swiss

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: look at him

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_07]: he just he refused to be a part of

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_07]: democracy I just love last week where

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like I'm Swiss look at me

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah but yeah the fact

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_07]: that it was Colin and Isaac

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_07]: were the ones that came back

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_07]: to tell Nate they want him back

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_07]: and the fact that it was just a unanimous decision

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_07]: everybody on that team

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: knows that Nate tore that sign

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_07]: they all know

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah but they

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_07]: they're beyond it at this point

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: it's more important they have

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: excellent leadership

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and something that I think

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: is wonderful

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: for this episode is

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a massive theme

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_03]: in this episode

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: the theme is forgiveness

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: we have

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: we have Ted outright telling

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie to forgive his dad

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: we have Ted

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: forgiving his mom

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_07]: we have Jamie actually forgiving

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_07]: his dad

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: but we also have Nate

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_03]: forgiving himself

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: we have Nate forgiving his

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_03]: transgressions and while he's

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: not saying it

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_03]: he is

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: he's definitely

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: acting like it you know his actions

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: say he has forgiven himself

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and I just love the theme of

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: forgiveness in this episode because you just see

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: it pop up literally everywhere

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and I think that that's the one

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: thing that actually just needs to happen before

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: we conclude the show is these characters need

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: to forgive themselves they need to forgive each other

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_03]: they need to forgive themselves they need to forgive

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: their past so that they're ready for

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: this huge future that they're

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: all about to have

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_07]: and you know it's

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_07]: it's funny too because

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Jade is the one that realizes and you kind of touch

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_07]: base on this a little bit that

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_07]: if Nate doesn't leave Taste of Athens

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_07]: he's going to stay there forever

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_07]: which I mean

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_07]: it could be beneficial because like we said Derek

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_07]: would probably sell him that place within a year or two

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_07]: because he's already

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_07]: showing he's already bringing profits into

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_07]: the restaurant

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_07]: but you know I love the fact

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's so nonchalant but I started

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_07]: laughing at this moment when I was watching with my mom

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_07]: and she's like what and I'm like Derek's grabbing

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_07]: his jaw like he just got punched

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_07]: and I'm like that's because he just got

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_07]: punched

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Jade's either slapped him or punched

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_07]: him to get him to fire

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate well

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: as he's coped out

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_07]: he oh

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_07]: she flat out like

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that she punched him because

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_03]: as like

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: cocaine makes your jaw work a little bit

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_07]: okay I didn't

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_07]: know that so maybe that is the case

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I okay then

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_07]: but still there is that moment with him

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I took it as Jade slapped

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: it could be a combination of both

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_03]: but cocaine makes

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: your jaw work a little bit

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: regardless

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: anybody that knows a coca head knows

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: regardless

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_07]: regardless jade threatened

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Derek

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah to fire

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_07]: awesome

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_07]: but it was something that Nate needed

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_07]: he needed that

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_07]: jade has been so good about not

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_07]: forcing him

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: in particular directions

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the one time she kind of breaks

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_07]: that a little bit because she knows it's for the best

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_07]: like she gives

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_07]: the little nudge

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_07]: and then we see Nate writing

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_07]: a 60 page

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_07]: apology letter

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_07]: to Ted

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I like that when he walks away

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it was 15 pages

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: front and back

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: when he goes to get the door

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: when it's bearded I love it that she just

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: takes a page and like a pen

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_03]: like I just had this feeling

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: that while you were talking

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: well no while beards talking to Nate

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that she's just xing out pages

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and she's like this is ridiculous

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: this is ridiculous

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: she's so no nonsense

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the best part about jade

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in my

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: very small opinion

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: is that she stands back

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: to let Nate be Nate

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and I think she started doing that

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: to see what kind of a man he was

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and then she continued

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: to do that because she trusted the kind

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: of man he was and she liked

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: seeing him make these decisions

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: for himself without her

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_07]: mm-hmm

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah no 100%

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean we talked a little bit about

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_07]: that last week that like

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_07]: he

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_07]: she knew without her there

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_07]: when she left for Poland to screw

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_07]: in light bulbs or whatever

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_07]: she knew he would make the right

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_07]: decisions it was a test

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_07]: to see if he would

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_07]: but she knew

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I have no doubt in my mind

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_07]: she knew he would make the right decisions

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah yeah I would

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_07]: agree with that yes

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_07]: so you know it was

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_07]: it was kind of okay that she kind of nudged him

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_07]: this time 100%

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_07]: because he needed it

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's not even like

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's not even that she nudged him

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_07]: it's more like she removed

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_07]: his crutch that he was leaning on

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_07]: taste of Athens was a crutch

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: mm-hmm

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_07]: he was leaning on that because he knew

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_07]: like

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_07]: as long as he had taste of Athens everything was

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_07]: going to be okay

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Jade didn't want him to be just okay

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_07]: she wanted him to be better

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_07]: best that he could be

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_07]: and she knew

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_07]: she had to remove the crutch of taste of Athens

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_07]: for that to happen

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_07]: because he even told Jade

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_07]: like it doesn't have to be Richmond

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll find a coaching job after

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_07]: you know whatever

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_07]: certain amount of time mm-hmm no that

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_07]: needs to happen now

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_07]: because if it doesn't happen now you'll never do it

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: he needs to go home

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: yes needs to go home

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: he's been a Richmond home yeah Richmond

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: is home Richmond's been

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: home you know he ran away from

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: home now he needs to go back

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_07]: yes completely

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_07]: with the exception of

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_07]: the beard and Nate moment I think that's

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_07]: really

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_07]: all I have for Nate

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_07]: do we want to talk about

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_07]: beard and Nate now or do we want to save it

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah we could do that let's do beard and Nate now

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_07]: because we might as well go into it

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_07]: and you know we've been we've been hinting

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_07]: at this for a number of episodes

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_07]: now pretty much when we got into

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_07]: this season we've been talking about it

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_07]: this is arguably

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_07]: probably one of my favorite

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_07]: beard moments of the entire series

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah because it is

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_07]: something we never see with

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_07]: beard vulnerability

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_07]: ever ever

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_07]: never happens

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_07]: um we have never seen

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_07]: beard vulnerable so much

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_07]: so that we have never gotten a back

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_07]: story on beard beard

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_07]: is just beard the entire

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_07]: time until now

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_07]: and it is

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_07]: seeing beard show vulnerability

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_07]: not only vulnerability

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_07]: but a but emotion

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_03]: because it's weird to me that he's not

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: sober

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: after all that time

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: with meth because he does

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_03]: mushrooms he still drinks he still

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_03]: does drugs he still goes

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: off and does crazy things with with

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Jane um

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_03]: so that was

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: probably the most interesting part

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_03]: of me of watching it

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: um because

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I keep thinking of him you know he does

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: mushrooms with a bus driver he did

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_03]: mushrooms quote unquote with Ted

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_03]: um he drinks beer at the pub

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_03]: all the time you know

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: for somebody that had that

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: big of a problem with meth I would assume

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_03]: would just shut it all down

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: but that's a nitpick that's a nitpick

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_07]: right because in order to get sober you have

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_07]: to stop it all

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: or maybe you just stop

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: the meth I don't know I don't know

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: what drug addiction does

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: inside your body I've I know

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: addicts I've known addicts I've never

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: been an addict so I cannot speak

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: from that point of view right I can't

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_03]: but

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: beard story

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: is like you said one

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: of one of the best moments of the

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: entire series because we finally get

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: an answer to the biggest question mark

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_03]: of the show who is beard

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_03]: who is beard yeah

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it that he stole

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: a loaf of meth a loaf of meth

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_07]: well because they he was comparing it

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_07]: to lame is I know he goes yes her story

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: is very similar to lame is

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I I got a I got

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_07]: the jail for stealing a loaf of meth well

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_07]: because Jean Valjean goes

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_07]: to prison for stealing a loaf of bread

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_07]: so it's the comparison to lame is

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_07]: around which I love what's which is

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_07]: so funny too because when

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_07]: the I remember watching this episode

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_07]: for the first time and hearing beard tell his

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_07]: story and he talks about like

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_07]: you know he gave me a place to

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_07]: stay in return I stole his car

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_07]: and you know I would have gone to prison

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_07]: if Ted didn't come and tell them that like

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_07]: he gave me the car and I'm like this sounds

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_07]: oddly like lame is and

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_07]: the next line is Nate saying

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_07]: your story is very much like

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_07]: lame is I'm like yeah like

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_07]: it's lame is yeah

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: which also makes

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: you think oh no please tell me that you

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_03]: didn't make this up

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_07]: which it's not you know

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_07]: like that story is too no that was

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: he did not want to tell that story

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_03]: but he told that story anyways

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: and I love that beard pays it

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: forward because he didn't deserve

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted's forgiveness

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Nate doesn't deserve

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Beards forgiveness we never

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_03]: deserve forgiveness from anybody

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: let's just be clear about that my father

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't deserve my forgiveness

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: forgive this is earned

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: for yourself you do not

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: forgive people for others

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: you forgive people for yourself

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and I think that's the hardest

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_07]: that's a big Jamie thing this episode which we'll get to

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: like I said forgiveness

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: is all over the place

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_03]: in this in this episode

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and Beards

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03]: forgiveness of Nate

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_03]: is the best

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_03]: it's because he says

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgive you and I offer you a job

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_03]: the life part is up to you

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah perfect

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_07]: it's

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_07]: again it's one of those things like you like you said

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_07]: you forgive people for yourself

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_07]: you don't forgive for other people

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_07]: and as I kind of said forgiveness is

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_07]: earned it's not given

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_07]: and this is an opportunity

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_07]: for beard

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_07]: he's doing this for himself

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_07]: and also at the same time

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_07]: he's giving Nate an opportunity

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_07]: to earn it

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_07]: he's giving Nate the chance that

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: beard got

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and I love the way that Ted

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_03]: reminded Beard

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_03]: of that forgiveness

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: it's

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I have it here somewhere

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_07]: well it also comes in the form

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_07]: of islands in the stream too

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_07]: when he's singing the lyrics

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_07]: of like we rely on each other

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_07]: as he's walking away

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: on each other

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: uh oh

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_07]: you're right

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: it's in that moment

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_07]: where Ted is showing Beard the video

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_07]: and everything that

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate did in that

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_07]: video and we're seeing

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Beard realize like he needs to forgive

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_03]: or at least give him the opportunity

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_07]: and before he gives him the opportunity

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_07]: let me finish my thought before I forget it

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_07]: we kind of see

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted's already forgiven

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_07]: we know it in our hearts already

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_07]: but we see in that moment

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted's already forgiven him

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_07]: he's already willing to let Nate come back

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: he forgave him

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_03]: probably when he went with Henry to the game

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_07]: if not before

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah so the quote that Ted says

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: to Beard is I hope that either

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_03]: all of us or none of us are judged

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: by the actions of our weakest moments

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: but rather the strength we show

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: when and if we're ever given a second chance

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_03]: that should be

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_03]: printed on people's foreheads

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_07]: well even look at the conversation that happens

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_07]: in the

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_07]: coaches room

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_07]: when Higgins comes in and says

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_07]: my birdies told me that Nate is willing

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_07]: to come back

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_07]: every single person in that office is okay

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_07]: with Nate coming back without even a second thought

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_07]: with the exception of Beard

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I disagree

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Leslie also didn't like it

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: because when he said

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I will burn this place down

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: when Beard said I'll burn this place down

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Leslie goes

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: when he does that he's keeping something

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: from somebody

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's because

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Higgins doesn't do that whenever

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_07]: whenever he's keeping something

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Higgins does that whenever he becomes nervous

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's keeping

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: something I think that he had his own

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_03]: reservations about it but he's always

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: been the supportive guy

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: that will go with the flow

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: he's chill just like he's

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't see it that way at all

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I saw it that Higgins came

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_07]: in he knew the team was accepting of

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate to come in therefore he was accepting

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_07]: of the team to come in Roy's okay

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_07]: with it Ted's okay with it

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_07]: he's automatically in his head he's thinking

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_07]: this is fine

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_07]: until Beard says something

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_07]: then he makes the noise because now he's

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_07]: nervous

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_07]: that's how I saw it I think Higgins was okay

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_07]: with it

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_07]: at least how I see it it could be

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_07]: it could be both

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_07]: it could be interpreted either way

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: he could be nervous because he's like oh no what if they ask me

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: my real opinion

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah maybe

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: what if it's Oklahoma me

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_07]: right I love

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_07]: that little I do too

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_07]: between Rebecca and Ted

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes I try to say

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Oklahoma to people to see if they'll understand

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_03]: what I'm saying but

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_03]: it never works you know I would

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you would

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_07]: if I if you ever said anything

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_07]: but also like you and I have that kind of like friendship

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_07]: where I don't need to hide

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: anything I don't need to say Oklahoma to

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: you

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_07]: um yeah

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah you don't need to

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Beard's loaf of meth cross it off

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I notice it's funny how I notice

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_07]: things the second time around and I want to see

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_07]: if you didn't notice this I want you

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_07]: to go back and rewatch the scene again with

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_07]: this in mind

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_07]: upon second watch

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_07]: of that scene

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_07]: of beard going to the door

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_07]: and giving Nate this opportunity

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_07]: to come back

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_07]: beard

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_07]: does not blink

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_07]: at all

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: in that scene

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_07]: in that scene

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_07]: beard does not blink

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_07]: that's hard to do

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_07]: he is

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_07]: deadpan

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_07]: flat out making straight on

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_07]: eye contact without breaking it

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_07]: once

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_07]: he does not blink

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: this is a very difficult moment for beard

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: beard doesn't want to do this

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: beards doing it

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_03]: out of a kindness that he received

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: this has nothing to do

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: with beards feelings towards Nate

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's very apparent that

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Nate is going to have to

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_03]: earn beards friendship

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: but beard is let it is

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: opening the door to allow him the opportunity

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_07]: well I mean and that's just it like

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_07]: it is

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_07]: you can tell

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_07]: again I'm not mentioning the fact that

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_07]: he doesn't blink at all for the sake of

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_07]: just mentioning because it's a fun thing

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_07]: it actually adds a lot of nuance to

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_07]: this scene

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_07]: because it makes you realize even more

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_07]: that beard

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_07]: is concentrating so much

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_07]: on making this apology

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_07]: or offering this forgiveness

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_07]: that he's not even

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_07]: thinking enough to blink

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_07]: he is concentrating

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_07]: because this is probably

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_07]: one of the hardest things

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_07]: beard has ever had to do

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I would agree with that

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I think the not

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_07]: blinking if you even notice it

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_07]: some people might not even notice it

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess that I can't guy

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: well it could also

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_07]: be an acting technique and that's how

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_07]: he shed a tear

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_07]: because he was drawing

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_07]: his eyes so that his tear ducts would produce

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_07]: tears that could also be the case

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_07]: but I also think Brendan

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Hunt is a good enough actor that he could have done it either way

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_03]: while hula hooping

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_07]: true

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love that there was

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_03]: one funny moment in that whole thing

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and it was still very deadpan

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_03]: isn't that Les Mis? Yes it's very similar to Les Mis

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_03]: now let me keep fucking talking

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_03]: that's what his look said

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_03]: listen this is not a time for jokes okay

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_07]: but I also love how

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_07]: he hugs him

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_07]: I love that that scene

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_07]: ends with Nate saying

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_07]: are you sure you don't want a headbutt me

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_07]: it might make us both feel better

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_07]: and you just see beard turn the cap

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_07]: but he just does the slow

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_07]: like all they do is touch foreheads

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_07]: like that's the headbutt

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah he's like Monday morning

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_07]: 10am and then

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_07]: he hugs him

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: like he embraces it

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_07]: weird hug

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_07]: you know Nate even knows it's weird too

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_07]: because Nate's like hesitant to hug him back

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_07]: but he does

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's just

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_07]: we've been teasing this

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_07]: for a while this is

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_07]: easily one of my favorite beard moments of the entire series

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_07]: it is vulnerable beard

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: you're vulnerable beard

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: what a great character

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see this character again

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: in the future because what a great character

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's too bad we can't have a season 4

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: of Ted Lasso since Ted dies next episode

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_07]: man that would change

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_07]: this whole thing

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_00]: what a spoiler huh

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_07]: and nobody ever talks about Ted's murder spree

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: he's just left in the middle of the pitch

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: with an axe and a stripping blood

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: nobody knows why

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_07]: all those anxiety attacks

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_07]: just lead to this murder

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_03]: okay so speaking of that

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: did you see that we had

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: the beginnings of a panic attack

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: this episode? couple times

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah and he was able to get through it

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: growth

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_07]: more growth

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_07]: so much so that it leads up

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_07]: to him confronting his mother

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_07]: which I don't think Ted would have ever done before

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_07]: he's never done it up to this point

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_07]: in his life

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_07]: it took a lot of these happenings

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_07]: over his course of this time at Richmond

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_07]: from getting over anxiety attacks

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_07]: to dealing with separation

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_07]: to his relationship with Dr. Sharon

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_07]: all these different things come together

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and coalesce into him

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_07]: having to finally having the ability

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_07]: to confront his mother

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I mean

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_03]: for a lot of people

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: you need to remove yourself

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_03]: from everything

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: that is causing you pain

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: to understand that it's causing you pain

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and then

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: you have to fix it right

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean he ran away

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted ran away from home

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_03]: he's not in Kansas anymore

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: he's in London

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: which we have a lot of Wizard of Oz

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of nods in this episode

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and I think one of them is the fact that

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_03]: you know

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted is not in Kansas

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted wants to go

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_03]: back to Kansas probably

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't even pick up

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_07]: on the fact that he's from Kansas City

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_07]: which is in Kansas

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and that's where the Wizard of Oz is based

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_07]: didn't even pick up on that till now

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: you're welcome

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: so um

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I had well how did I

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: sorry

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: no it's okay obviously it wasn't that important

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I had a whole point about

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: oh sometimes you have to run away from home

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: like you know Dorothy had to run away from home

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_03]: to realize how much she loved her home

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_03]: right um I think the same

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: can be said for Ted

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted says something that is very

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: very very telling he doesn't want to

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: get close to his son

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_03]: because he doesn't want to leave him

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_03]: or he doesn't want his son to leave him

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted is so messed up from his father's

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: suicide that he can't

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_03]: even have an honest close

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_03]: relationship with his son

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and we see that that's been this problem

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the whole time he doesn't know

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_03]: how to be close to his son

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and he wants to be close to his son

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_03]: that's why he keeps everybody at an arms

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_03]: length that's why he jokes around with everybody

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_03]: it's probably why his mom jokes around

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: with everybody it keeps

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: him at arms length with everyone

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_03]: because the closest

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_03]: because the closest person in his life

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that was

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_03]: the closest person in his life

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_03]: left him

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_03]: unceremoniously without any thought

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_03]: to Ted left him

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and Ted doesn't want that for

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_03]: any part of his life ever again

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_07]: he doesn't want to experience it again

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_03]: anybody that has

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_03]: suffered a loss in their life

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: whether it's because of divorce

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_03]: abandonment death whatever

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: we all understand that

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: scared little kid that lives inside of us

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that just wants their mom and dad

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and his dad left him

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: left him

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_07]: permanently

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_07]: anybody who has never experienced that kind of loss

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_07]: in their life or abandonment is lucky

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_07]: and should consider themselves lucky but I think

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_07]: anybody at our age

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_07]: has experienced it

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_07]: if not multiple times

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_07]: whether it be the loss of a parent

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_07]: loss of a grandparent

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_07]: loss of the ending of a relationship

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_07]: depending on

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_07]: how it is

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I personally

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_07]: was I personally still

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_07]: have issues when it comes to relationships

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_07]: because of an abandonment issue

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I was sick

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_07]: for a period of time where I was in a hospital

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_07]: and while I was in a hospital I had

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_07]: a partner leave me

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_07]: and it sucks

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_07]: and I still

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_07]: to this day have issues with that

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I've gotten over most of them at this point

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_07]: but it happens so I completely understand

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_07]: where

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted is coming from with that fear

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_07]: because whether it be

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: his mom should have been

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_03]: there to help him

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: well that's part of the confrontation he has

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_03]: with his mom at the end of the episode

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: but his mom was also reeling

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: from the fact that her husband

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_03]: left her

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_03]: unceremoniously

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and we see grief

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_03]: grief does this grief can pull people

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_03]: apart just as much as it brings people

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: together every time

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you know one of the other things too

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_07]: that comes out of this whole conversation

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_07]: this whole conversation with Ted and his mom

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_07]: is we get something that has only happened

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_07]: once before in this entire series

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_07]: that's Ted dropping the F bomb

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_07]: like a lot

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_07]: multiple times

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: it happens so often

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_03]: that it unnerves me

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_03]: because it's unlike Ted

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I know but you know

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it though

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_03]: because he took that from

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie earlier

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_03]: right because he said

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_03]: if you could talk to your dad right now what would you say to your dad

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_03]: he'd say I'd say

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_03]: thank you

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and then I'd say thank you or thank you then

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: anyways it was

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: that formula

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and watching Jamie forgive his father

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in that moment

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_03]: that made Ted take that formula

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and apply it to his situation

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_07]: and so and it's so interesting to see that

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_07]: because all this time we've seen

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_07]: that all these people have learned

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_07]: lessons from Ted

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and now we're seeing this is also

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_07]: reciprocal this is the first like

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted has also learned

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_07]: from these players from these other

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_07]: people

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_07]: everybody on this team

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_07]: from the coaching staff to the team itself

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_07]: every single one of these people has had

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_07]: effect on each other

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not just Ted having an effect

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_07]: on these players these players

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_07]: have had an effect on Ted

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_07]: and we're seeing that in that moment

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_07]: like you said with the thank you

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_07]: and the fuck you conversation

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_07]: and I love too because like

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_07]: the conversation is so intense

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_07]: and so emotional that even

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_07]: by the end of it when his mom looks

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_07]: at him and says fuck you

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and he starts laughing like

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_07]: uncomfortably that's what we do too

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_07]: like we kind of chuckle

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_07]: at that moment too like yeah

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_07]: because he's thinking to himself

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah that was very unlike me

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_07]: because we're thinking yeah

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_07]: that was very unlike Ted

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_03]: but we needed Ted

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: to put down

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: all those goofy barriers

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_03]: that he always has up

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_03]: he needed to have an actual

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_03]: conversation with his mother

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: who is as we learn

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_03]: the same personality

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_03]: as Ted

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_07]: the moment that he takes her into

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Rebecca's office and she knows

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_07]: that's Ted's mother

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_07]: just from the way he speak

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_07]: just from the way she speaking yeah

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_07]: she's like oh you're

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted's mother like she knows

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_07]: immediately and she just can't even

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: wait to get up and just start

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: talking to her and bringing her

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: everywhere and just being like

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah Ted's mom is here

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_07]: well it's that whole situation

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_07]: we see it throughout the entire episode

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_07]: that everybody's happy to see Ted's mother

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_07]: except for maybe Ted

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_07]: and I don't think it's that he's

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_07]: unhappy to see her

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's really unhappy to see her

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_03]: you think? Well I think he does

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: not want to see his mom

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_03]: to call him out on his bullshit

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_03]: when he knows that he is putting

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: his head in the sand

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah that's a good point

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_07]: like you're right he ran away

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_07]: from home for a reason

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and now home followed

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_07]: him to England

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: not only home, his mom is there

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_03]: mom came

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_07]: probably one of the biggest people

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_07]: with the exception of Michelle

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_07]: and Henry I don't even think

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_07]: he was running away from Henry

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: my guess is mom doesn't travel a lot

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_03]: because she's never been to London

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_03]: he's been there three years

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_03]: she's never once been and now she's

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: there to bring him home

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: well also the fact that she was there for like a week

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_03]: so something

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah there's something very

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I bet you she wasn't

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I bet she stayed for like one night

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_03]: got a funny story or watched a movie

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_03]: or something I bet you she was there

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_03]: for Ted but didn't want Ted to know

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_07]: well we do get a good indication

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_07]: that she likes to change

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_07]: the facts of stories

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_07]: because she changes

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_03]: she does not tell the truth

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: which makes Ted an

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_03]: unreliable narrator now

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_07]: well I don't think it's that

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_07]: she doesn't tell the truth

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think Dotty intentionally lies

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Dotty short for Dorothy

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_07]: she just oh damn it

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_07]: son of a bitch

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_03]: pinball machine was a wizard

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I knew that one

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah damn it didn't even pick up on that

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_07]: anyway keep going

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_07]: it's like the whole Sam and Rebecca thing

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_07]: with from Cheers

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_07]: anyway um

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know do you threw me off with that so much

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_07]: though that I don't even remember what the hell I was talking about

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: we're talking about mom

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_07]: she embellishes stories quite a bit

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_07]: so much so that she

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_07]: she probably believes them to be

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_07]: true she tells

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_07]: the story so much

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I didn't know you were

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_07]: almost the drummer for Coldplay

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_07]: that was what Paul I think

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_07]: when they follow

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_07]: when Paul ends up following Dorothy

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_07]: on Facebook

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't know you were almost the drummer for Coldplay

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they all became her Facebook friends

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_03]: yep

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I love that bar

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: we did not get enough May

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: May all of a sudden is this wise old

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: bar owner in the last couple

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes where has she been

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_07]: for three years

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I love though and this is just a quick little point

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_07]: that I have in there

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_07]: May looks out for her regulars

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_07]: because when that bar is

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_07]: packed

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_07]: she goes up to Paul Baz

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_07]: and she goes up to the three of them and she's like

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_07]: how many beers are you going to be drinking

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_07]: and they're like three she's like no

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_07]: how many beers are you drinking if you won't be able to order

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_07]: for like the next half hour

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_07]: 12

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and she's like there you go

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_07]: she's looking out for her regulars

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_07]: you know which just makes her

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_07]: an amazing bar keep and bartender

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I love it

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah May just

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_07]: May could be her own spin off

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_07]: yes

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_07]: what's that bar even called

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_07]: oh it's um

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_07]: oh god

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I had it in my head the other day

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_07]: sorry no it's

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_07]: it's fine because now it's going to bother me

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Lasso pub

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_07]: well the real name of it

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_07]: is called the prince head it's called the crown and anchor

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_07]: in the show

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_07]: um but it's called

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_07]: the uh it's it's called the prince's head

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_07]: in real life

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_07]: which man watching this episode

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I've been thinking this for the past couple

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_07]: episodes

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_07]: watching this episode and seeing like all the cut scenes

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_07]: of like Manchester City and everything

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_07]: and then seeing the crown and anchor

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like I really want to go to Richmond

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah we all do

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I really want to visit I want to visit

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_07]: the UK like I just want yeah me too

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: me too I've been trying to get my husband

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_03]: to uh to agree to

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: a big UK trip

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_07]: it's just yeah it you know

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_03]: um okay

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_03]: so the other just to just

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_03]: to be real quick the other wizard above

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Oz references are that

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: when um

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Keely and Roy follow

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie who is following this is loose

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: following the wizard which is his mom

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: right um

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_03]: when they go into the tunnel

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_03]: the tunnel is uh filled

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_03]: with yellow bricks

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_07]: oh I didn't even notice

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_07]: that either well did not

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_07]: that I didn't notice it I just didn't pay attention

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_07]: um so

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_07]: do we

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_07]: let's see

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_07]: do we still have more to talk about with Ted

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_07]: and his mom or we covered

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_07]: a lot of it I think Ted

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: it's nice to see that Ted's

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_03]: anger has dissipated a little

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: bit towards his mom I do like it

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_03]: at the end when um

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: she writes a note to him and she says

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_03]: uh thank you

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_03]: thank you just thank you and just thank

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you like it's so nice because

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_03]: this big fight has brought them closer

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: you know these big fights they

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: bring people closer together

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_07]: well we talked about it last

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_07]: episode in the fact that you know

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_07]: all of these other characters in Roy

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_07]: and Nate and Keely and

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_07]: you know we saw like a lot

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_07]: of these characters needed this growth

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_07]: and to a degree

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_07]: some of this closure and

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_07]: we said that we didn't get a lot of Ted last episode

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_07]: because what all the growth

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_07]: that Ted needs is what's coming

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_07]: next episode meaning this one

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_07]: so this is it this is

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_07]: that episode of growth for Ted

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_07]: as well the

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you know learning the comfort you know

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_07]: being able to confront his mother about everything

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_07]: learning from that experience and well in

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_07]: that you know his mother

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_07]: was going through through thing going through

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_07]: her own element of all of this

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_07]: as well and learning that

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_07]: for himself because maybe that was something he

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_07]: didn't really think about

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_07]: you know because when you think about it that whole

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_07]: confrontation with Ted and his mother does start

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of selfishly yeah

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_07]: you know and then when his mother's

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_07]: like I thank you for for expressing

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_07]: this but I wish you would have said this sooner

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: fuck you for not saying it sooner

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: that would have been good if she said that

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_07]: you know it's just you know it

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_07]: does it starts out as a little bit of a selfish

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_07]: confrontation and then it grows

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_07]: because she

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_07]: chimes in herself and says I

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: didn't know how to handle this and

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_07]: they learn and grow from each

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_07]: other in this conversation so

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: hearing you talk does make me think so

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: you know I lost my sister when I was

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: 24 years old

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was already an adult

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: right

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: my mom

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: went through her own

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_03]: horrific pain

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: when it came to that and she didn't know how

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: to handle any of it and I think

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: she didn't feel that she had to bring me

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: through any of it because I was an adult

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and she was in her own trauma

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: right so I think

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: when we're caught up in our own trauma

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: we just compartmentalize

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: what we can when we can

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: just to get through the day and I think that

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted and Dottie did that

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: for decades

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: you see how

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: that kind of

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: repression can implode

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: somebody individually

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: somebody with their relationships

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: with the most important relationships in their life

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: right with their parents

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: and um

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: what's interesting to me is that

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_03]: it's that it so

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: closely resembles

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of this big thing

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that my mom and I had right

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: like it was years later

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: when finally it was just like

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I also need you mom

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: right like I've had that moment

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I've had that moment that Ted

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: had with his mom and it is

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: so healing

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: it is so refreshing and it

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_03]: you get so much growth

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: from a conversation like that

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: that you just know that Ted

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and his mom are on the path

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: back to each other after this

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: after this huge confrontation

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and I think that that's beautiful

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because it shows that Ted is ready

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted has done the hard work

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: but now he's ready to

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: show that he's done the hard work

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah and I'll even take it a step further too

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_07]: in that it's kind of as viewers

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_07]: it's a little bit of a learning process too

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_07]: to make you realize

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of just kind of to piggyback on what you said

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_07]: to kind of realize that just because

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_07]: we are going through our

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_07]: own things doesn't mean that other people

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_07]: aren't going through them as well

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_07]: to either a different degree

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_07]: it could be a lesser agree it could be a

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_07]: stronger right

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_07]: for example and again

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_07]: like we share a lot of personal stuff about

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_07]: ourselves on this podcast

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_07]: and I shared this with you earlier

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I got news and actually

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think if it wasn't for having just

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_07]: watched this episode of Ted Lasso I would have even

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_07]: had this thought process

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I've made it known for a while

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't speak to my father

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_07]: or that side of the family

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't for years

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't for almost two decades now

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and I got news

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_07]: yesterday that my uncle passed away

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_07]: I have not seen my uncle

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_07]: in probably 25 years

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_07]: you know

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_07]: and to a degree like

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_07]: months ago or a couple years ago

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I would have just been like hey

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't seen my uncle in 25 years

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_07]: it's sad that he passed away

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_07]: and then that's the end of it

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_07]: but because of

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted Lasso and other things that

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_07]: have happened in my life it made me realize that

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you know what

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I may not speak to my father

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_07]: right now and haven't for a while

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_07]: but I have to think about what my father is feeling

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_07]: right now because he just lost his brother

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: right

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_07]: and it made me realize

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_07]: that I may not be talking to my father

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_07]: because we just don't speak

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_07]: but I was actually

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_07]: saddened for my father

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_07]: in my uncle's passing away

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you know

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_07]: it is something to kind of take away

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_07]: from this if nothing else

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_07]: is that you have to realize

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_07]: other people are going

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_07]: you are not the only one

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_07]: that is going through it

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that if Ted had lost

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: his dad that way at nine or ten

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: that mom would

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: have taken care of Ted a little bit

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: more

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: but Ted was 19

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and it is

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: possible that Dottie

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: thought he's his own man

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_03]: he's got it I've got to take

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: care of myself

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: unconsciously of course

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: because

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: of course she wants to take care of her son

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: but you can't take care of other people

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: if you are not okay

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_07]: you know it's similar

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_07]: to like

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_07]: you're never going to be happy in a relationship

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_07]: if you can't be happy with yourself first

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_07]: you need to be able to be

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_07]: single before you can be in a relationship

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you know

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_07]: it's weird but it's the same thing when it comes to that

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_07]: like you have to be

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_07]: able to help yourself with grief

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_07]: before you can help others with grief

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: sometimes though

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_07]: that's not the case

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_07]: sometimes you are forced into it

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: sometimes you have no choice but to help others

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_07]: grieve before you can help yourself

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_07]: right like you said if Ted was younger

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_07]: that would have been the case

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_07]: yep but you know

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_07]: there were mistakes on both ends when it comes to

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted and Dottie

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_07]: and again that conversation started out

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_07]: as something very selfish from Ted's point of view

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_07]: we've said it earlier

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted makes mistakes and he still does

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_07]: he's fallible just like any other person

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_07]: but to see the

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_07]: growth in this conversation

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_07]: not just in Ted

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_07]: in this conversation but the growth

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted has experienced to even

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_07]: get to have this conversation

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't he have a

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: lead tasso moment

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_07]: does he?

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: puts on his visor and gets real mad

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_03]: he gets everybody out of his office

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: oh it was when they were all dancing with Dottie

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: it was when they were dancing with Dottie

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and Trent's in there

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jamie's in there

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: some people have a team to coach

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: some people have a team to coach

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like hey you lead tasso

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_07]: you're right I didn't even think about that

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_07]: like he

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_07]: it is a lead tasso moment

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_07]: some people have a team to coach

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_07]: and just storms on the visor

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_07]: you're right because he only wears that visor

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_07]: when he's lead tasso

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: no I don't think that's true

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_07]: that's the only time I remember him wearing it

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: no he's worn that visor

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: what's the specific visor

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: or a visor

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_03]: no he wears a visor the whole time

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_07]: no I don't think he does

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: now we have to go back

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and look at the tapes

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_07]: let's start over from episode 1

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_07]: let's go back

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: let's stop recording right now sorry guys

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: no good place

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: no forking good place

[01:08:22] so

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to switch real quick

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_07]: because there's still

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_07]: one more Ted moment we have to talk about

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_07]: but we're going to save it for the end

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: okay yeah

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to talk about the soccer game

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're going to go a little out of order here

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't care because you know

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie's his own subject

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: but can we just

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: can we just have a discussion

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: about the fact that

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Van Dam had the most

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: epic game of his career

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: of his career

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_07]: brick wall

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and why are we talking about Jamie's good

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: good game

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Van Dam had the game

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: of his life

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: of his life

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: nothing went by him

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: nothing

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_07]: and there were at least a dozen shots

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean there was one

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: there was one time during the game I counted it

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: when they were trying to get the goal in there

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: he blocked that ball

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: six times before Jamie went in there

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and kicked it to the other side of the field

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Paylai kicked it out of the net

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: unbelievable goalie game

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_07]: it's he

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: again he's a brick... don't ever take the face mask off

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_07]: he was a brick wall

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_07]: dude did not let anything

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_07]: by him at all

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: nothing by him

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_07]: it was an amazing game for Van Dam

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah and like

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: okay Jamie Tarr blah blah blah

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just it's so frustrating to me

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: because the stars of the team are the only ones

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_03]: that ever get talked about and Van Dam had

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: a career

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: making

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_07]: game well the focus was also on Jamie

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_07]: because of where they were at

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I understand that

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_03]: but that was epic

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_07]: epic one not only

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_07]: that

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_07]: but like Colin is the one that scores the first goal

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_07]: the first and only

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_07]: goal until Jamie comes back in the game later

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_07]: like Colin and Van Dam were the stars

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_07]: of that game

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah well I mean Colin

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Colin was fed the ball by Jamie

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_07]: hmm

[01:10:27] yeah

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_07]: no

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie was fed the ball

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_07]: to Sam

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_07]: got it total football

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and Colin scored the goal exactly

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: but still

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: but still I just had such

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I was screaming

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: at the television last night I was like

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: can we please talk about Van Dam

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: like I just did not understand

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like and again

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and again and again oh my gosh

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: like it was incredible

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: incredible

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_07]: you know a show does well

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_07]: when it comes to the sports element

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_07]: when you are actually cheering

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_07]: as if you were watching an actual game

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah remember the Titans is another one

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_07]: well remember the Titans does it well

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_07]: like even like we've talked about it before

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_07]: but major league

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_07]: major league is a great baseball movie

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_07]: never cheered when they won

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_07]: like it was just like we knew it was going to happen

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_07]: it's done well

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_07]: but like I've

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_07]: audibly cheered

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_07]: at this game, at the show

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_07]: at the football in the show

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_07]: not only audibly cheered

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_07]: but got emotional

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_07]: like I was a Richmond fan

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_07]: because that's what we've become

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_07]: we've become Richmond fans

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_07]: we've become Richmond fans

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah actually I'm really mad that this isn't

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: a real team because I really

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: like I was ready to hang my hat on AFC Richmond

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: AFC Richmond

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: for the rest of my life

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: if you buy FIFA 2023 it's a real team

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_07]: of course it is

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: it's probably the most played team

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_07]: AFC Richmond is in

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_07]: is in FIFA 2023

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: can you play a Sam Obesanya?

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_07]: yes oh that's amazing

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_07]: the playable characters if I remember correctly

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_07]: are Roy Kent

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Sam Obesanya

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie Tartt and I think Danny Rojas

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Danny Rojas

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it that Dottie

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: just wanted to meet Danny Rojas

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and then she's sharing a

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: kebab with Danny Rojas

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: later like it's just amazing

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: 75 kebabs please

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_07]: getting back to Van Damme

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_07]: for a minute too like I like when he's putting

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_07]: on the mat like he's wearing the mask

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_07]: and they're like oh you still have to wear that mask

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_07]: he's like yes because if I don't I die

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_07]: and you look over at Danny

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_07]: and Danny's just waving playfully

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: he's like I like the mask man

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: it looks good

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: poor Van Damme

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: like nobody understands

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: his trauma that he went through

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_03]: with the international break

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: like literally nobody

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_07]: well Van Damme gets

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_07]: his moment next episode too in the finale

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_07]: he gets a great moment in the next episode

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Van Damme so much

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I just think he's such a

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's the other thing like I would love

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_03]: a spin-off

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: just of this team because you know

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and this is me

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: just in this episode right

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: in this episode I see a team

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: that is young

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and talented that is going to

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: be the same team

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_03]: for at least the next

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: five to six years

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: offers

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: like if even if Sam

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Obisanya was said hey do you want to come play

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: for the Nigerian football league

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: or whatever he'd be like no I'm good where I am

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I like where I am

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I like who I am where I am

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: if they offered Jamie

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: triple the money to go back to Manchester

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: he'd give them two middle fingers

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: like I don't think anybody is leaving

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: this team

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I agree with you I don't think

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_07]: anybody is even

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_07]: it's even had thoughts

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: of leaving the team

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_07]: because of how

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_07]: good it is there and because of just

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_07]: they've become better people being there

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and even in their lowest moments

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that they would be

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: tempted to leave either

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: because they support each other

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: in their lower moments like

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Colin coming out to the team that was enough

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: for Colin that's his family

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: those are his people his family

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: his support squad loves him

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: cares for him supports him

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: as he said that's enough I don't need

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: anything else I think they all

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: feel that way in this moment

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah completely

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's in that feeling is just going to be

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_07]: solidified next episode 100%

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah 100%

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but yes I needed to talk about

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Van Damme's game because Van Damme's game

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: was epic it is in my

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_07]: notes it is 100%

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_07]: in my notes

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_07]: let's go back

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_07]: and

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_07]: talk about

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: a sexy little baby

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: a sexy little baby

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_07]: before we even get

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_07]: to his mom

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: who is the actress is 12 years old

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I wrote that down I have that in my notes

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: there is a 12 year

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_07]: age difference between the two of them

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_07]: it is

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_07]: and I can't tell

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_07]: if that is because

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_07]: she is supposed to be playing older

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_07]: than she is or Jamie is supposed

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_07]: to be playing younger than he is

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie is playing younger than he is

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: because he's 31 in that episode

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah filled on sir 31 but in the first

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_03]: episode

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_03]: he says he's like 23

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_07]: okay so he's supposed to be

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_03]: he's in his late mid to late 20s

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_07]: okay so that makes his mother probably

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_07]: early 20s by the time she had Jamie

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: in so the late teens early 20s

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: the actress that played

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: his mom was 43 years old

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: the day of filming

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: which is my age

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah mine as well

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_07]: no you're 44

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_07]: oh you're 40th yeah sorry I was trying to make myself

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: why do I have to remember your age

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I was trying to make myself younger leave me alone

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_07]: you're turning 45 this year

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: not me

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still in my early 40s

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: anyways

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_03]: so yeah

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she was probably supposed to play

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: mid 40s

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: he is the one that

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: is younger so if he let's say

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: he's 26 and she's 45

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that's 19

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: 21 20 yeah she

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_07]: was definitely younger late teens

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: early 20s not a scandalous

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: it's not a scandalish she didn't have a baby

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_07]: at 12

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe I

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even want to think about it

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry yeah

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a 12 year old daughter I'm not thinking about this right now

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_07]: but I mean even before we get to that

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_07]: we see that Jamie is broken like he has

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: his soul is

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_03]: impotent

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_07]: which as you know as funny as

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_07]: that is

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_07]: it's a weirdly good analogy perfect

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: analogy perfect

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: analogy for depression

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_07]: it's a it's a we

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_07]: oddly good analogy for that

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_07]: but I mean like we see that

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_07]: like you know he's just

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_07]: he's not giving during the press

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_07]: conference he's not giving himself enough credit

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_07]: he wants to take back the goal

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_07]: because it wasn't meant to be a goal

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I needed to be reviewed

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I apologize

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_07]: to the kids like

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_07]: because it wasn't real like we're

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_07]: like he's got a major case

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_07]: of the yips at this point Roy is just

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: like Jamie Tart

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: also leads and assists in the league

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: like what

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: talking about Jamie

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: you're equally good

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and selfless

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: on the pitch like

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah like you've grown into

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_07]: this amazing player like what are you

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: doing Roy broke him

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Roy turned him Roy broke him

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: down into pieces and forgot to build

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: him back up so

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment that's

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_07]: true so you know

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_07]: well I think a lot of it had to do with

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_07]: the fact that he was getting ready to face

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Manchester and his dad 100%

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_07]: well that's what I mean like that came

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_07]: hand in hand with he knew going to

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Manchester City was his father

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_07]: like after everything he's been through

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_07]: the abuse and everything like that is

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: this is the big boss of the game

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah and then the big boss

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: wasn't even there which we're

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_07]: gonna get to by the time

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_07]: by the end of this but

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I love the fact that like when

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Roy calls him into the locker room

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_07]: and Roy just starts

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_07]: confronting him and he just

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_07]: breaks like he just starts crying

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I felt so bad

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_07]: because I know what that's like

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah but he but

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Phil Dunster plays it so

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_07]: brilliantly that it's

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_07]: even though it's a hard

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_07]: thing for him to be facing it's

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_07]: still hysterical okay

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: so I was laughing

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: throughout the whole thing because all I could think about

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: was Phil Dunster in interviews

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: saying that half of the time that he

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_03]: was acting with

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Brett Goldstein he was just trying to get him to break

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: yep he was seeing how far he could

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: take it for he broke and so I'm watching

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie like massage Roy's

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: face and I'm like that right

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: there he's trying to get him to break that's a break

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_03]: it made it so much

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: funnier yeah

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: because he's faking his ass off

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_03]: but also trying to like

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: man what he's like grabbing

[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and like smushing his face together

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: smashing his face together

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_07]: I think you know

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_07]: you know this man is going through some

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_07]: serious trauma

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_07]: but it is hysterical

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_07]: to watch him go through it

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: did Roy when Will came in did Roy say you

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: missed it?

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_07]: it's one of my favorite moments of the entire

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_07]: scene because he missed nothing this year

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Will comes in

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_07]: because we know like Will has been in that

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_07]: locker room that in the shoe room

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_07]: every time something happens

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_07]: and this time

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie is just

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_07]: grasping on to Roy

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_07]: and Roy's patting his back and Will comes

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_07]: in with like a stack of shirts

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and Roy's like you missed a good one this time

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Will and Will just closes

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_07]: the door behind him but as he closes the door

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_07]: he's mad he's like

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_07]: he's disappointed he actually

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: he knows the T on everybody

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_07]: and this is the first time

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_07]: he's missed it

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and he missed a good one

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: he missed a good one

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought that was hilarious

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: there's so much hilarity to this scene

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's all

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: an aside

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: the whole thing about this is that

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie is going through something

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: real bad right now

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: it's genuine trauma

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's also freaking hilarious

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how they managed that

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: because it was just like

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: oh Jamie I love you so much

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: what are you doing to Roy's face

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_07]: well and I think

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_07]: it goes a lot to Phil Dunstern obviously

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_07]: too because the acting in that scene

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_07]: is brilliant and I know

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_07]: during seasons 1 and 2

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Sudeikis had won the Emmy

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Brett Goldstein had won the Emmy

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_07]: there were a number like obviously

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Hannah Waddingham had won the Emmy

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_07]: going into the third season

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_07]: was a time where everybody

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_07]: was like no, we've won

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_07]: we've got ours

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_07]: this needs like Jamie

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_07]: did he get one?

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Phil needs the nomination

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and I think I don't remember if he won

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: he was nominated I know he was nominated

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_07]: he was definitely nominated

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking it up now

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_07]: did Phil Dunstern win

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_07]: the Emmy

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_03]: he did

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Phil Dunstern it was his first Emmy

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: good

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: oh no it was his first nomination

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: okay

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if he won it or not

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that's okay

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_07]: no it was just a nomination he didn't win

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_07]: but he got the nomination

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_07]: like that's what they wanted

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_07]: even Brett Goldstein

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_07]: he was like no I've been nominated in one

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Phil needs the nomination this time

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_07]: and when you look at scenes like that

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_07]: that's like

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_07]: come on

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_07]: you're right I need to see more

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Phil Dunstern

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love it because I just knew the whole time

[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: he was trying to make Brett Goldstein break

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: but also acting his ass off

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm actually looking now to see if he's got anything

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: coming up he doesn't because

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been looking no he's got three

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_07]: upcoming projects coming out he's got

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Picture This which is in post production

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and then the other stuff is just like

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_07]: like one off

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_07]: that's what I'm saying he needs

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: he needs more

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah oh yeah 100%

[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_03]: he needs more he's amazing

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah so

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_07]: and even this movie that's in post production

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_07]: he's not even

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_07]: like a lead cast he's just like a star

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_07]: he's like a co-starring role

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: he's so good he was so good in this episode

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: you know his entire journey

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: is really quite amazing

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and it's nice to see

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: that at the end of this episode

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: when

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie, Roy and Keely are all

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: happily hanging out together

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: well

[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie, I see his ankle

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and Ted looks on and sees that

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: these three people

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: who were so angry

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: in the beginning not Keely right

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's just

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie and Roy just totally different

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: people than they are now

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: in this moment

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Ted has seen in this moment

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: that he's done what he was supposed to do

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: he has helped

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_03]: these people heal

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: just as much as he has healed

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: this was a team of broken people

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: from the top down to the bottom

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: from Rebecca to Nate

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and Ted came in and in three years

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_03]: he fixed it

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_07]: well these three characters

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_07]: in particular in Roy, Jamie

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_07]: and Keely

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_07]: because remember in the first season

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Keely was a

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_07]: not a dividing point yet

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_07]: because Roy and Keely didn't get together

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_07]: until after Keely and Jamie had split

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_07]: but there was still like

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_07]: you think about that moment with Jamie

[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_07]: at the benefit, you know spilling the soup over

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_07]: you imagine him doing that now

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie and Roy were two people

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_07]: who did not like each other

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_07]: and

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Keely was just kind of in the middle

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and trying to fix things

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_07]: and now these are three people

[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_07]: who are in a room

[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_07]: laughing and celebrating

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_07]: with each other

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: and making fun of each other

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_03]: they're making fun of Jamie

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jamie's like I know right

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: it's very easy

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_03]: they're a unit now

[01:24:51] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah it's been repaired

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie went to Uncle's Day

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_03]: oh god

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I still love that scene so much

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I know

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_07]: so much so that it was the audio

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_07]: the audio clip I used

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_07]: during the last week's episode

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: good good

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah like you're right

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_07]: like Ted is seeing that like these

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_07]: things have been repaired

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_07]: people were in a good place

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_07]: and I think that kind of lends a lot

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_07]: to the final moments of this episode

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_07]: which again

[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_07]: we'll talk about but there's still a little bit more

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_07]: about Jamie we have to talk about because

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_07]: we see

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_07]: obviously Roy goes to Keely

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_07]: for help to help improve Jamie

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_07]: because she is good at all that emotional

[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_07]: shit

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_07]: the Roy meeting Barbara interaction

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_07]: is just

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_07]: freaking hysterical because

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_07]: because Barbara's the best

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_07]: are you here about the pipes?

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_07]: no what's wrong with the pipes? nothing

[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_07]: that's why I thought it was weird you were here

[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_07]: for the pipes

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: she's just eating this apple

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: the loudest way anybody's

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: ever eaten an apple

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: but did you see her hair is now softer

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: she has this nice shirt on

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: their desks are like

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted and Beards

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: did you notice that?

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: desks are together in the middle of the room

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: so there's a I mean

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted's influence is everywhere

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah oh 100%

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_07]: it just it goes

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_07]: and Keely has her beard

[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_07]: well because it's infectious

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_07]: the Ted Lasso effect is spread

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_07]: by others who have been affected by the

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted Lasso effect

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_07]: it's passed on

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_07]: it's paid forward

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_07]: that's what I was thinking of

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah so we're seeing like it does

[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_07]: it's infectious and in the best of ways

[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_07]: that it spreads around

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_10]: but you know

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Keely going to Jamie's

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_07]: hotel room to kind of

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_07]: talking about it

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_07]: and seeing them all sit down to watch

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_07]: you've got mail and Roy's like oh like

[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_07]: did you fix it she's like nope fuck it up

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_07]: he's even worse now that he was

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah he's even worse that was the best part

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: because she because he just went

[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: crazy about a suitcase with

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: clothes without a home

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_07]: a shelf without a home

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: a shelf without a home it was just

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_03]: a drawer without a home I think it was

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_07]: a drawer without a home yeah you're right

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_03]: but it was just it was just

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: you know all she wanted to do is talk to him

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: she had no idea how bad off he was until

[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_07]: that moment and just the fact that

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_07]: she comes down to Roy she's like nope

[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_07]: fucked it up made me worse

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and then they go on this little

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: journey and they follow him which

[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Roy rolling his eyes the whole time at

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: how ridiculous Keely was being

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: well-fought like he's just following him

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: he doesn't care if Jamie knows that he's following him

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_03]: he's just walking Keely's like

[01:27:39] [SPEAKER_03]: prancing around

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: with in her loud high heels with her

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: bright pink Muppet

[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: jacket and like

[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: she's making more of a spectacle of herself

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_07]: than anything else Roy is walking

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_07]: normally Keely has

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_07]: the mission impossible theme going on

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_07]: in her head while she's following

[01:27:57] without

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: without any of the stealth

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: yep she's

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: in a bright pink jacket

[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: she's in a Muppet jacket

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: with with cloggy heels

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_03]: it's you just know that it you just

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: know that it's like

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: the whole way down the street

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah it's it's so ridiculous and

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_07]: like you know Jamie well I mean

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_07]: we find out that Jamie knows the whole time

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_07]: that they're following him right because

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_07]: he confronts him at that tunnel

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_07]: which is right around the corner from his house

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah you know and then he sees the three boys

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: yep

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_07]: which I love

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_07]: like I love that moment too because

[01:28:36] [SPEAKER_07]: you kind of get a glimpse

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_07]: as to what's bothering Jamie

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment and it's not the fact that they're

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_07]: back to Manchester City because

[01:28:43] [SPEAKER_07]: these three boys are laying it on thick

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_07]: to Jamie when they find out who he is

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_07]: and Jamie's just smiling like he's

[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_07]: taking it in stride he doesn't

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_07]: care what Manchester City thinks

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_07]: of him it's only one

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_07]: person that's in Manchester City

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_07]: yep that he cares about

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_07]: and that's his father yeah

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you know we've we've learned up

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_07]: until this point like we learned

[01:29:05] [SPEAKER_07]: earlier before this point

[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_07]: that Jamie is the player

[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_07]: he is because of his father

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_07]: it's been trying to prove his father wrong

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_07]: and now that

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_07]: he doesn't care about his father

[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_07]: what his father thinks he's lost his motivation

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_07]: yep and that's

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: the big issue the anger that always

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: fueled him is gone

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_07]: you know and it takes this

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_07]: as weird as it is

[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_07]: this whole relationship

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: with his mother as odd

[01:29:35] [SPEAKER_07]: calling him her her sexy baby

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: like seems like a little

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: joke I gotta tell you the second time

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_03]: watching that the second time through

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: was not as creepy as the first time

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I agree I was gonna say the same thing

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_07]: because I have it in my

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_07]: notes that this weird

[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_07]: relationship that we thought we saw the first

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_07]: time around when he

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_07]: is like lying in her lap

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_07]: when Roy and Keely are up in the bedroom

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_07]: after I forget his name

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_07]: gives them the tour

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and seems like a Kyle

[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I forget what it is

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_07]: but when

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_07]: when Jamie and Georgia are in

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_07]: the living room and like he's lying

[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_07]: down in her lap and they have this weird

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_07]: like mama

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_07]: boy mama's boy kind of thing

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_07]: it really does turn into this oddly

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_07]: sweet moment

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_07]: with her saying like it doesn't

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_07]: matter what he thinks

[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_07]: whether he's there or not

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_07]: none of it matters

[01:30:29] [SPEAKER_07]: like you are this brilliant player

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_07]: because you became

[01:30:33] [SPEAKER_07]: this brilliant player on your own

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and it really does

[01:30:39] [SPEAKER_07]: help Jamie a lot of

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: times what we need is we need

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: somebody who knows the history

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: right he went to mom

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: because mom knows how bad

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: dad is

[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_07]: all the names that she calls

[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_07]: him throughout that entire conversation is just

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_07]: hysterical but I mean

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: that's just it though

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: when you are hurting

[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_03]: you need the people that know your

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: story

[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: because when you're hurting you don't want to go

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: through having to explain that story

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: how explaining how

[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: you're hurt you need somebody to just

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_03]: understand that you're hurting

[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: why you're hurting

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: without the need to explain it

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: because it just causes more

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: trauma in the end

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_07]: well when you have to

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_07]: excuse me when you have to explain

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_07]: something to someone as to why you're feeling

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_07]: the way you're feeling

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_07]: whether you think about it or not

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_07]: it's reliving the trauma

[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_07]: right exactly

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_07]: you know so you're right to be able to go to somebody

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_07]: who already knows what it is

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_07]: right and to just kind of

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: comfort him

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah it is a huge huge help

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_07]: because you're right like if Roy had said

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_07]: like what's bothering you

[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_07]: like he did

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_07]: it's just going to cause Jamie to think about it more

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_07]: which is just going to do more damage

[01:31:56] [SPEAKER_07]: right

[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: mom knew exactly why he was there

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_03]: yep

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_03]: mom knew exactly why he was there

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and moms know

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: when

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: their kid needs them

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean moms fix everything

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: they're supposed to

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_07]: can we just talk about Jamie's room for a minute

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and the fact that it's never been

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: changed which is

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: its own thing

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: well Jamie owns that house

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: right Jamie bought that house

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I think he bought the house for his mother yeah mom definitely

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't work

[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_03]: that vibe real quick no even the

[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_07]: fact that he stepped out is that just does

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Paul Hollywood recipes yeah

[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_07]: neither one of them work like neither one of them

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: care of which is exactly

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_07]: what you should do

[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah it's great you know

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_07]: but I love

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_07]: the room the posters

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_07]: have changed with the exception

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_07]: of that one

[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_07]: when I love

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_07]: so I love when they walk in and like

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_07]: and Roy sees the poster

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_07]: and it makes you realize like this

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_07]: entire time

[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_07]: that even early on excuse me

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_07]: even early on when we go back to that scene again

[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_07]: where season one with Jamie and Roy not liking

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_07]: each other

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_07]: that was all a front for Jamie

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_07]: right Jamie has been a

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_07]: fan of Roy's

[01:33:19] [SPEAKER_07]: since he was like a teenager

[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah Roy

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_07]: was his idol

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Roy is probably the reason he got

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_07]: into playing football no he has said that

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_07]: before yeah I think yeah I think he has

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: they've had those conversations before

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_03]: about how much Jamie

[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_03]: has just loved Roy Kent forever

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was in the first season where he was like

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I was obsessed with you yeah

[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I think you're right

[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_07]: but seeing that

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_07]: that poster is still there

[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_07]: and then we get that moment where the door

[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_07]: opens and we see

[01:33:50] [SPEAKER_07]: the Keely poster

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_07]: with the two soccer balls

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_07]: and we get the Roy Keely

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_07]: swap for a minute

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Roy's like

[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_07]: whoa

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_07]: and Keely with the

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_07]: what the fuck like

[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_07]: deep Roy growl of it all

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah but in what world

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: in what world did Jamie Tart

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: ever think that he would go into his boyhood

[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_03]: home and see the two people

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_03]: on his walls on his bed

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_07]: well

[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_07]: well yeah

[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_07]: and I think he kind of

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_07]: realizes that too

[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_03]: full circle moment for Jamie Tart

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_07]: well I think he kind of realizes that too

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment because he comes upstairs

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_07]: to say okay like it's time to go

[01:34:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and as they leave

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_07]: he kind of just glances back at his room

[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_07]: with a smile he's just like

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: okay that was weird

[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean but also think about the fact

[01:34:43] [SPEAKER_07]: too that not only are they in his room

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_07]: but the two people he had on his wall

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_07]: who were probably on his wall while he

[01:34:49] [SPEAKER_07]: was a teenager yeah he ended

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_07]: up being in a relationship with one

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_07]: and now has a great friendship

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_03]: with the other oh no that's his best

[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_07]: friend yes that's true

[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_07]: that's his best friend I don't know maybe Isaac

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_07]: fuck off I know

[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_03]: right Isaac Isaac's best friend

[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: is Colin the fact that

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Roy the fact that Roy was actually

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_07]: a little upset in the point

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_07]: that Jamie said Isaac was his best friend

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: because they're best friends

[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_07]: they are now

[01:35:17] [SPEAKER_07]: like it's great but you know

[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_07]: it kind of leads us into

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_07]: by the way the Roy

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_07]: seeing Jamie's mom

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_07]: and trying to like flirt

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_07]: with her a little bit

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_07]: was hysterical like when they're saying goodbye

[01:35:31] [SPEAKER_07]: and he goes and turns he's like all right one for the road

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I get a hug from her

[01:35:35] [SPEAKER_07]: and he was like nope come on

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: it was awesome

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: you know the three of them are wonderful

[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: together they're such a great

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_07]: unit now yeah they are

[01:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's another reason why I wanted

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to be a little longer is because

[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love how it is now you know

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess that kind of leads us to the game

[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_07]: too

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: you know because game a little bit

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_07]: no but we didn't really talk about

[01:36:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted and Jamie

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_07]: oh well okay

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_07]: which I don't think it needs a lot of time

[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_07]: but we see

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to say real quick

[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we do get a Nora mention

[01:36:15] [SPEAKER_03]: at least we do

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and the fact that Nora

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and the fact that Rebecca listened to Nora

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and rode the bus instead of her private jet

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_03]: was fantastic

[01:36:25] [SPEAKER_07]: so there are two

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_07]: moments in this episode where the

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_07]: moment I heard them

[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like well that's going to make Kristen smile

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_07]: um the Nora mention

[01:36:35] [SPEAKER_07]: was one of them because we had just talked

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_07]: last week how there was no more Nora

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_07]: we miss her but now we get a mention

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_07]: um but there's another line

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_07]: in this episode and it's in a scene we already talked about

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_07]: but the moment I heard it

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I have it in my quotes so I'm going to say it now

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_07]: the moment I heard it I even looked at my mom

[01:36:51] [SPEAKER_07]: and like oh Kristen's going to love that one

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's the moment where Keely

[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_07]: is going through all the different things people

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_07]: might be saying about Jamie

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_07]: and she says I know a lot of people are

[01:37:01] [SPEAKER_07]: shit talking your hair online

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_07]: he's like they what

[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: well he even says in the episode

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even condition it anymore because

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: what's the point

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and his hair does look frizzy

[01:37:12] [SPEAKER_07]: but I know you've always had issues with his hair

[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_07]: I hate his hair so much

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_07]: so in the back where Keely's like

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_07]: they're shit talking that your hair

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_07]: online and he's like they what

[01:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: like brings them out of it

[01:37:25] [SPEAKER_07]: it's the only thing that actually

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_07]: temporarily brings him out of it

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_07]: is the fact that you're shit talking his hair

[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: his hair is garbage

[01:37:33] [SPEAKER_07]: you know but yeah

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_07]: we get you know the fact that

[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_07]: you know Ted kind of is the one that talks

[01:37:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie into

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_07]: realizing like hey you don't need to

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_07]: forgive your father for him

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_07]: you need to forgive your father for you

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_07]: and it leads Jamie into going

[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_07]: out there and being the Jamie

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_07]: of old in and I don't think

[01:37:53] [SPEAKER_07]: anybody minds it at all because it leads to

[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_07]: a goal in that

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_07]: he goes out there and just does it on

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_07]: his own because Jamie needed

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_07]: to prove that he could

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_03]: but he also

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_03]: he's been so

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_03]: he's been so

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: selfless in his play

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_03]: that you see him

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_03]: look at every single player

[01:38:15] [SPEAKER_03]: before he takes that goal

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_03]: does anybody else

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: have a better shot at it

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_03]: than me right now

[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and that is

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: the growth of Jamie Tartt

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_07]: right there. One I think it's also the growth

[01:38:28] [SPEAKER_07]: of the relationship he has with the team

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_07]: too because when he gets up

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_07]: and he steps back out on that field

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_07]: because Ted had every confidence Jamie was going to snap out of this

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_07]: they play a player down

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_07]: against the best city

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_07]: team in the league

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_07]: because that's how

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_07]: confident Ted was

[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_07]: that Jamie would come out of this

[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_07]: he trusts his players

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_07]: finally. And when Jamie

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_07]: steps up and shakes it off

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_07]: and goes back out on that field

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_07]: the happiness and glee

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_07]: from Sam and everybody

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_07]: else out there seeing that all right

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie's here

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: you know if he has a teammate

[01:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: best friend it's Sam

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_03]: everything that he's done for Sam

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: like putting the black

[01:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: tape over his jersey wearing Sam's number

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in the international break

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: like Sam is his best friend

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: if not Roy not Isaac

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: you dumb shit

[01:39:20] [SPEAKER_03]: sorry. I love you Jamie

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Tartt. I said Jamie Dunster

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_03]: same same thing

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_07]: same thing

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah like you know we

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_07]: and then we get this moment where

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_07]: we see

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie's dad's

[01:39:37] [SPEAKER_07]: two friends in the crowd

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_07]: without Jamie's dad

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_07]: and they say like his father would have been proud

[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_07]: and they tip a drink to his father

[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_07]: and in that instant

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_07]: like for a moment a brief moment

[01:39:49] [SPEAKER_07]: you like

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_07]: you think the worst

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_07]: like oh his father passed

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_07]: but then it cuts

[01:39:57] [SPEAKER_07]: and probably good timing

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_07]: like they don't let us sit with that

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_07]: for very long

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_07]: you see this moment where it cuts

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_07]: and you see his father

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_07]: is in rehab

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_07]: and he's getting clean and he's watching

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_07]: the game

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and that's what I was going to say

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_07]: like I love the most about this moment

[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_07]: is this entire

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_07]: episode it's just a repeated

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_07]: point in that his father

[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_07]: would be rooting against him

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_07]: if he was in that crowd

[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_07]: but when we finally see

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_07]: his father

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_07]: he is proud

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_07]: he's silently like applauding

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_07]: he's like he's got his head

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_07]: up as he's watching his son

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_07]: he has

[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: clarity enough

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_07]: that he is proud of his son

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_07]: and that got me

[01:40:47] [SPEAKER_07]: emotional

[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_07]: that got me really emotional

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_07]: because the end

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_07]: of this episode is just nothing

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_07]: but a bunch of emotional beats

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_07]: we get

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you know

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted's mother saying your son misses you

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_07]: and then him saying you don't think I miss him too

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_07]: and seeing Ted kind of break down a little bit

[01:41:09] [SPEAKER_07]: and then you know

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_07]: after that

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_07]: it leads to

[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_07]: the final moments of the episode

[01:41:17] [SPEAKER_07]: I want to say one more point real quick

[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and then if you have anything else

[01:41:21] [SPEAKER_07]: before we talk about that final moment

[01:41:24] [SPEAKER_07]: there is

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_07]: one other very quick thing

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_07]: and that is Rebecca gets visitors

[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's Bex

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_07]: so excited about that

[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and Miss Kakes

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_07]: so excited about that

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_07]: we talked a little bit about this last week

[01:41:39] [SPEAKER_03]: so I haven't seen Bex in so long

[01:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was Shandy for a split second

[01:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: because I forgot what happened at the end

[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm like what is Shandy do

[01:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: oh wait that's not Shandy okay

[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah we mentioned

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_07]: this in spoilers a little bit last weeks

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_07]: last week

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_07]: last week there was that mention that there was

[01:41:56] [SPEAKER_07]: inappropriate conduct

[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_07]: happening somewhere within West Ham United

[01:42:02] [SPEAKER_07]: people thought could it be Nate

[01:42:04] [SPEAKER_07]: we are now getting our

[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_07]: glimpse as to who it is

[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's

[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_07]: it's Rupert

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the reason why

[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Bex and Miss Kakes are at Rebecca's door

[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't wait finally

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_07]: it is because

[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Rupert is the one that was

[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_07]: inappropriate

[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_07]: and that's not really a big

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_07]: spoiler you can kind of

[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_07]: figure that out on your own

[01:42:29] [SPEAKER_07]: purely from this moment

[01:42:32] [SPEAKER_07]: because I don't even really think

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_07]: they dive much deeper

[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_07]: into it

[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_07]: next episode

[01:42:40] [SPEAKER_07]: there's definitely more Rupert in the finale

[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_07]: but I don't think they

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_07]: go into the inappropriate workplace stuff

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_07]: anything else

[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_07]: on your end before we go into

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_07]: this final couple minutes

[01:42:52] [SPEAKER_07]: of the episode

[01:42:54] [SPEAKER_07]: so that leads us then

[01:42:55] [SPEAKER_07]: into the final moments

[01:42:57] [SPEAKER_07]: we see

[01:42:59] [SPEAKER_07]: and this was a

[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_07]: rough point for me because

[01:43:03] [SPEAKER_07]: going into season 3

[01:43:06] [SPEAKER_07]: it was the will this be the last season

[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_07]: is this not the last season

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_07]: the rumors possibly of season 4

[01:43:13] [SPEAKER_07]: and then as we're getting closer

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_07]: and closer we're like well we don't know

[01:43:15] [SPEAKER_07]: what's gonna happen

[01:43:17] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the moment I got really sad

[01:43:20] [SPEAKER_07]: because this is the moment

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_07]: for me I realized

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_07]: this show is for short ending

[01:43:26] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's ending next episode

[01:43:29] [SPEAKER_07]: because we see Ted

[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_07]: make that walk through the locker room

[01:43:33] [SPEAKER_07]: and it is that cheers moment

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_07]: where you are looking around

[01:43:36] [SPEAKER_07]: before you turn the lights off

[01:43:38] [SPEAKER_07]: this is Ted's final

[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_07]: last look at the locker room

[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not the last time he's gonna see it but

[01:43:45] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the like

[01:43:46] [SPEAKER_07]: this is Ted seeing

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_07]: the locker room in a different light

[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_07]: because he

[01:43:52] [SPEAKER_07]: already has it in his mind

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_07]: he is saying goodbye

[01:43:56] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_07]: and if you

[01:44:00] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not really a spoiler at this point now

[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_07]: because you get it you figure it out

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_07]: but this is something else you figure out again

[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_07]: in that moment he walks into the office

[01:44:08] [SPEAKER_07]: he sees Rebecca

[01:44:11] [SPEAKER_07]: and they have that conversation

[01:44:12] [SPEAKER_07]: where Becca's like this is that time

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_07]: of year I come down

[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_07]: and I make some

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_07]: yep and I make some big reveal

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_07]: and we talk about it

[01:44:22] [SPEAKER_07]: and it is because this is

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_07]: it's always the pen ultimate episode

[01:44:26] [SPEAKER_07]: of season one and season two

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_07]: where Rebecca has some big confession

[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_07]: and this time it's Ted

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_07]: and

[01:44:36] [SPEAKER_07]: you know he says like

[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_07]: she's like I've got nothing

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought I'd have a doozy but I don't

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_07]: and he's like that's alright

[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I've got one

[01:44:46] [SPEAKER_07]: we all know what it is

[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: everybody knows what it is

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_07]: it is the moment you realize

[01:44:51] [SPEAKER_07]: with everything that is happening Ted is going home

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_07]: boo

[01:44:56] [SPEAKER_07]: and I'm not gonna lie

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I was actually holding off getting a little choked up

[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_07]: just talking about that moment

[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: just talking about it right exactly

[01:45:04] [SPEAKER_07]: because you realize like

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not only the fact that like you are

[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_07]: sad that Ted is leaving

[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_07]: and he is leaving Richmond and the show

[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_07]: is ending you are sad as a

[01:45:13] [SPEAKER_07]: fan because

[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_07]: as somebody personally I know

[01:45:17] [SPEAKER_07]: you are the same way that this show has

[01:45:19] [SPEAKER_07]: meant so much to and it helped

[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_07]: in so many ways is also

[01:45:23] [SPEAKER_07]: ending

[01:45:24] [SPEAKER_07]: you know so

[01:45:27] [SPEAKER_07]: it's an emotional note

[01:45:28] [SPEAKER_03]: it's tough yeah you're right it's tough

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_03]: because you do know in that moment

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: what he is about to say to her

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and you know that we are coming to the

[01:45:39] [SPEAKER_03]: end here with Ted

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_03]: but you know I mean

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_03]: there's still

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: an hour and 15 minutes left

[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah and it is

[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: probably some of the best

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_07]: hour and 15 minutes of the show

[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[01:45:56] [SPEAKER_07]: when we talk about the finale next week

[01:45:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just warning everybody listening right now

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_07]: it is going to be a longer episode

[01:46:02] [SPEAKER_07]: because there's like last week

[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_07]: there is or even like this week

[01:46:06] [SPEAKER_07]: we're already we haven't even gotten

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_07]: to spoilers or anything we're already

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_07]: an hour and 40 like

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I know we're we'll be okay it'll be yeah

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_07]: it's it's going to be

[01:46:16] [SPEAKER_07]: it's well it's not just going to be a

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_07]: longer episode because of what we have to

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_07]: talk about that happens it's going to be

[01:46:21] [SPEAKER_07]: a longer episode because there are

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_07]: a lot

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_07]: of callbacks

[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_07]: and we're going to try and go through as many

[01:46:29] [SPEAKER_07]: of them as we can which would be fun

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah it's going to be its own section

[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_07]: of the podcast next week I'm very excited

[01:46:35] [SPEAKER_07]: about next week and I'm apologizing

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_07]: now if there are quivers

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_07]: of emotion in my voices we talk about it

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_07]: next week Ben's very emotional

[01:46:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I am I'm a very emotional person

[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I make no qualms about it

[01:46:47] [SPEAKER_07]: and I don't deny it and I don't fight it

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_03]: either right good older

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I get the worse I get yeah well

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_03]: it's because we care less

[01:46:56] [SPEAKER_07]: this is also true

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_07]: that latch

[01:47:00] [SPEAKER_07]: key generation I know

[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_07]: um do you have anything

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_07]: for spoilers no

[01:47:07] [SPEAKER_07]: okay I don't either

[01:47:09] [SPEAKER_07]: so where's going to buy

[01:47:11] [SPEAKER_07]: pass boilers then um

[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_07]: and let's dive into some of our favorite quotes

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_07]: of the episode

[01:47:17] [SPEAKER_07]: um I mentioned

[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_07]: the one already about

[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_07]: the the hair online I just think that's

[01:47:24] [SPEAKER_07]: hysterical

[01:47:25] [SPEAKER_03]: one of my favorites is Nate

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: so why do we put the chairs on the tables

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Jade the patriarchy the patriarchy

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I just

[01:47:33] [SPEAKER_07]: love it

[01:47:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Dottie I'm sorry may I call you

[01:47:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Dottie sure if you want me to respond

[01:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: everything everything that Dottie

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: said was perfection

[01:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like oh now we know where Ted gets it

[01:47:48] [SPEAKER_03]: yep

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah definitely um

[01:47:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I said the one about Ted

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: um all of us are none of us are judged

[01:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[01:47:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm coach lasso's new bodyguard

[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: please keep your hands where I can see them

[01:48:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just kidding you can keep them

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_03]: well manicured myths of yours wherever you'd like

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_03]: oh my god

[01:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: your Ted's mother winner winner be a skinner

[01:48:12] [SPEAKER_07]: yep

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_07]: uh

[01:48:15] when

[01:48:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Roy is leaving when he's going to

[01:48:18] [SPEAKER_07]: go to Keely he's like

[01:48:21] [SPEAKER_07]: uh Roy's like I gotta head out

[01:48:23] [SPEAKER_07]: he's like okay everything all right

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I've just come down with a case of the none of your

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_07]: fucking business that

[01:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: is amazing

[01:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: it's amazing on so many levels

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_07]: the fact that he could even just talk

[01:48:35] [SPEAKER_07]: to Ted like that

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_07]: is just

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_07]: it's Roy I mean it's yeah you know

[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_03]: you know what we didn't get enough of this episode

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: is Trent

[01:48:45] [SPEAKER_07]: well see like

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Trent still chasing the story

[01:48:48] [SPEAKER_07]: like he asks Dottie if I could

[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_07]: have like if if I can speak to you for a

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_07]: little while yeah you know with his

[01:48:55] [SPEAKER_03]: notebook open yeah

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Dottie's part of the story yeah

[01:48:58] [SPEAKER_07]: she loves Trent and she loves Trent's

[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_07]: hair

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_07]: your hair is fabulous

[01:49:05] [SPEAKER_03]: it's wonderful

[01:49:07] [SPEAKER_07]: uh right

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: did you lose oh it's gotta be drugs

[01:49:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I bet you it was drugs

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_03]: like when the customer

[01:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: just looks at him and says was it drugs

[01:49:17] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah because I'm going to answer

[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_03]: you right now as the owner is

[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_03]: geeked out on drugs right next to him

[01:49:23] [SPEAKER_07]: that's true

[01:49:24] [SPEAKER_07]: that's true it's the owner that's geeked out on the drugs

[01:49:28] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_07]: right I've got to go see a man

[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_07]: about a horse oh I didn't

[01:49:33] [SPEAKER_07]: know girls said that when they got a pee

[01:49:34] [SPEAKER_07]: no Ted I'm buying a horse

[01:49:41] [SPEAKER_07]: typical Rebecca

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_07]: she's eating a kebab

[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: like the way that she eats

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: that kebab through I mean

[01:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: she just like snaps

[01:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: it right off of everybody

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_07]: everybody ate it that way if you watch

[01:49:54] [SPEAKER_07]: everybody even Jade at the end of the

[01:49:56] [SPEAKER_07]: episode when she's eating the kebab

[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_07]: like they're all sliding it off the side

[01:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: that high you know maybe

[01:50:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I've just been eating kebabs wrong

[01:50:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I always view kebabs

[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_03]: is really dry but

[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that those kebabs were

[01:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: delicious well Sheldon

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_07]: looks at it the same way too it's why he eats

[01:50:14] [SPEAKER_07]: like the lamb kebab

[01:50:16] [SPEAKER_07]: the way he does in that episode of big bang theory

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_07]: guess you don't remember that one

[01:50:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember but that's okay

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: it's good not to remember some moments

[01:50:27] [SPEAKER_07]: the conversation between

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_07]: with beard and doddy at the pub

[01:50:30] [SPEAKER_07]: so you're seeing anyone

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_07]: had my heart ripped out of my chest

[01:50:33] [SPEAKER_07]: stomped into a pulp and dragged through the town

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_07]: square for everyone to ridicule

[01:50:37] [SPEAKER_07]: oh sweetie that's alright you'll meet someone

[01:50:39] [SPEAKER_07]: no I'm in love

[01:50:40] [SPEAKER_03]: you want to see a picture

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: beards not

[01:50:46] [SPEAKER_03]: reading this episode

[01:50:50] [SPEAKER_07]: no he's not

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_07]: interesting I don't he

[01:50:53] [SPEAKER_07]: doesn't have anything to read this episode

[01:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: beard always is

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: reading so that's interesting

[01:51:00] no

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_07]: for beard

[01:51:01] [SPEAKER_07]: more but you have anything

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_07]: hey coach

[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want Jamie to play hurt but we got to make a

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_07]: decision here personally

[01:51:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm fine with him playing her I played her

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_07]: all the time you can't walk upstairs

[01:51:15] the

[01:51:16] [SPEAKER_07]: beard and Roy

[01:51:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about that one

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: you can't walk upstairs

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_07]: why this one made me laugh

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_07]: as much as it did

[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_07]: but when they're having the conversation

[01:51:30] [SPEAKER_07]: up in the booth

[01:51:32] [SPEAKER_07]: about how Richmond should

[01:51:34] [SPEAKER_07]: have their own song

[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Higgins talks about how

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Freddie Mercury used to own the team

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_07]: and they were going to make it fat bottom girls

[01:51:44] [SPEAKER_07]: did a bunch of people get offended

[01:51:46] [SPEAKER_07]: just the flat bottom girls really

[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_07]: but what made me laugh

[01:51:50] [SPEAKER_07]: was Rebecca's story afterwards

[01:51:51] [SPEAKER_07]: she goes my father went to art school

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_07]: with Freddie Mercury

[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean everyone always talks about

[01:51:56] [SPEAKER_07]: his amazing four active vocal range

[01:51:58] [SPEAKER_07]: but my father always insisted that

[01:51:59] [SPEAKER_07]: if you actually asked Freddie what his great talent

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_07]: was he would say flipping straights

[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that was amazing

[01:52:06] [SPEAKER_03]: that was amazing

[01:52:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it I loved that

[01:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you know Rebecca just confident

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and just sure of herself

[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: we're a great character

[01:52:15] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah she's

[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the best version

[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_07]: of Rebecca

[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I know and we only get her

[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: for a couple of episodes man

[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:52:26] [SPEAKER_07]: that's all I really have

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I don't have much else

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_03]: okay so why don't we go into feedback

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_07]: alright let's do that

[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_07]: we only got a couple this week

[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_07]: not as much as last week we got two voicemails

[01:52:38] [SPEAKER_07]: to go through and that's pretty much it

[01:52:41] [SPEAKER_07]: but this first one

[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_07]: comes to us from our friend

[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Jason and San Jose so let's play

[01:52:47] [SPEAKER_07]: that now

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: hi Ben and Kristen this is Jason

[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and San Jose leaving feedback

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_05]: for mom city

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_05]: before getting to this amazing

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: episode I wanted to say thank you

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: for catching the reference to the

[01:53:20] [SPEAKER_05]: birdcage when I was talking about

[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Lacage of Faux in my last

[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: feedback I know that

[01:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I had recorded that the

[01:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: birdcage was a remake

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_05]: but I must have edited that out

[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_05]: before sending you the audio file

[01:53:34] [SPEAKER_05]: back to mom city

[01:53:36] [SPEAKER_05]: while I have rewatched most

[01:53:38] [SPEAKER_05]: of the third season episodes during

[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_05]: the hiatuses of the revisited

[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_05]: podcast this is my first

[01:53:44] [SPEAKER_05]: time rewatching the last two episodes

[01:53:46] [SPEAKER_05]: of the show I thought this

[01:53:48] [SPEAKER_05]: might be an episode that I could finally

[01:53:50] [SPEAKER_05]: watch without crying but

[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_05]: nope the last 10 minutes

[01:53:54] [SPEAKER_05]: just had the tears flowing

[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_05]: so there are too many memorable

[01:53:58] [SPEAKER_05]: scenes in this episode to talk about

[01:54:00] [SPEAKER_05]: so I'm gonna stick with the parts that

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_05]: focused on mental health

[01:54:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and recovery

[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_05]: starting with May reciting

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: the Philip Larkin poem this be the

[01:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: verse about parents

[01:54:11] [SPEAKER_05]: fucking us up to Ted

[01:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: finally saying fuck you to his mom

[01:54:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I really felt a lot

[01:54:18] [SPEAKER_05]: of those emotions

[01:54:19] [SPEAKER_05]: my addiction started as a way

[01:54:22] [SPEAKER_05]: of soothing myself when my parents divorced

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_05]: it was only when working

[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_05]: through my own issues that I was

[01:54:27] [SPEAKER_05]: able to fight through my fear of

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: confrontation and finally

[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_05]: be able to speak my mind to my mom

[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_05]: about the conflict avoidance

[01:54:35] [SPEAKER_05]: that she had passed down to me

[01:54:37] [SPEAKER_05]: additionally I was finally

[01:54:39] [SPEAKER_05]: able to be okay with not having

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_05]: to prove my worthiness to my dad

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_05]: just like Jamie

[01:54:45] [SPEAKER_05]: my parents loved me and did the best

[01:54:47] [SPEAKER_05]: they could letting go of

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_05]: the things that I was carrying around in my head

[01:54:51] [SPEAKER_05]: has really helped

[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_05]: so thinking of Jamie

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_05]: his relationship with his mom

[01:54:57] [SPEAKER_05]: made me feel a tad

[01:54:59] [SPEAKER_05]: uncomfortable it reminded

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: me of hearing friend stories of

[01:55:03] [SPEAKER_05]: mother and meshment or

[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: covert incest

[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and that is when a parent

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_05]: treats their child like a romantic

[01:55:11] [SPEAKER_05]: partner their prolonged

[01:55:13] [SPEAKER_05]: embrace after him coming

[01:55:15] [SPEAKER_05]: home her comments of

[01:55:17] [SPEAKER_05]: my sexy baby

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and her

[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_05]: stroking his hair were a little bit

[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_05]: too cringy for me but I'm

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_05]: glad that he was finally able to pull

[01:55:27] [SPEAKER_05]: himself out of the funk that he was in

[01:55:29] [SPEAKER_05]: lastly I wanted

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_05]: to talk about forgiveness

[01:55:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I loved Ted talking to Jamie about

[01:55:35] [SPEAKER_05]: forgiving his father

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_05]: not to make his dad feel better

[01:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: but to help Jamie let go of the baggage

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that he was holding on to

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's so ironic that

[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: as he's giving this advice

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Ted is unable to do that for himself

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_05]: until later

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I recognize that when I'm helping others

[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_05]: in giving advice and guidance

[01:55:55] [SPEAKER_05]: that I realize

[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that what I'm saying actually

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: applies to me as well

[01:56:00] [SPEAKER_05]: hmm so that's how it works

[01:56:03] [SPEAKER_05]: so on to Ted

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_05]: showing Coach Beard the video of Nate

[01:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: we finally get to see

[01:56:09] [SPEAKER_05]: how many hours Nate was under that desk

[01:56:11] [SPEAKER_05]: sheesh

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_05]: that speech has started the tears flowing

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_05]: for me but when Coach Beard

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_05]: told his story to Nate

[01:56:18] [SPEAKER_05]: ooh the floodgates opened

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is

[01:56:23] [SPEAKER_05]: my soapbox moment

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_05]: so many times in our society

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_05]: people just write off addicts in recovery

[01:56:29] [SPEAKER_05]: without giving them a second chance

[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_05]: at life

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_05]: hearing about Ted giving Beard a second

[01:56:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and third chance just broke me

[01:56:37] [SPEAKER_05]: and then Beard realizing

[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_05]: that he needs to forgive Nate

[01:56:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and give him that second chance

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and in doing so passing along the kindness

[01:56:46] [SPEAKER_05]: that was shown to him

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_05]: absolutely beautiful

[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so looking forward

[01:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: to the penultimate

[01:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: truth bomb that was dropped at the end

[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_05]: of Mom City to finally be

[01:56:57] [SPEAKER_05]: revealed in the finale

[01:56:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and until then

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_05]: this has been Jason in San Jose

[01:57:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Namaste baby

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_10]: ah you give it all

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_10]: you got back a lot of nerve

[01:57:11] [SPEAKER_10]: you make the rockin world go round

[01:57:16] [SPEAKER_03]: thank you so much

[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: for your feedback Jason

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to

[01:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and I know that we touched on this

[01:57:23] [SPEAKER_03]: we talked about this during our

[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: coverage section

[01:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: of the podcast and

[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I on second watch

[01:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not believe

[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_03]: that Jamie and his mom had

[01:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: an inappropriate relationship

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that it's just

[01:57:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been in crazy sports

[01:57:40] [SPEAKER_03]: families before where they just

[01:57:42] [SPEAKER_03]: there's an element of hero worship

[01:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a military

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: husband who who is hero

[01:57:48] [SPEAKER_03]: worship by my own family

[01:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: like when you have hero

[01:57:52] [SPEAKER_03]: worship when you have somebody that is

[01:57:54] [SPEAKER_03]: so successful like a

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie Tartt like

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Kobe Bryant

[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I refuse to say the other person

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_03]: but when you

[01:58:04] [SPEAKER_03]: have those people that are just so

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_03]: big and they've changed

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: your own life I mean yeah

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and that person came from you

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean yeah you're going to have

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_03]: some really big feelings for

[01:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: that person

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: but at the same time when she called him

[01:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: her sexy little baby

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: the way that they left

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_03]: led me to believe that that was an inside

[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: joke between the two of them

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_03]: that was not something

[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_03]: that she

[01:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: particularly feels about her full grown son

[01:58:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and the things that

[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_03]: she had to say about her father were

[01:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: very supportive

[01:58:39] [SPEAKER_03]: to Jamie obviously those

[01:58:41] [SPEAKER_03]: two have been through it together

[01:58:43] [SPEAKER_03]: obviously she was a single mom

[01:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: raising for a long time

[01:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: for a long time trying to get him

[01:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: where he needed to be because he was a

[01:58:51] [SPEAKER_03]: soccer star which meant that he had to

[01:58:53] [SPEAKER_03]: be he was probably on several different

[01:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: teams traveling all over the place

[01:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: my best friend has

[01:58:59] [SPEAKER_03]: a daughter in a

[01:59:01] [SPEAKER_03]: travel softball team and she's 12

[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and that takes over their

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: life enough I cannot

[01:59:07] [SPEAKER_03]: imagine having a Jamie Tartt like

[01:59:09] [SPEAKER_03]: athlete and trying

[01:59:11] [SPEAKER_03]: to get that person

[01:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: everywhere on my own

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_07]: also look at the conversation that we had talked about

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_07]: too about just the conversation

[01:59:19] [SPEAKER_07]: with the poster on the wall

[01:59:20] [SPEAKER_07]: when they see Roy Kent you know the

[01:59:22] [SPEAKER_07]: man that's married to his mom like his stepfather

[01:59:25] [SPEAKER_07]: whoever I can't remember the character's name

[01:59:26] [SPEAKER_07]: still

[01:59:28] [SPEAKER_07]: but he's calling Kyle you might

[01:59:31] [SPEAKER_07]: actually be right I don't know

[01:59:33] [SPEAKER_07]: when he says like oh yeah

[01:59:35] [SPEAKER_07]: like many posters have come and go

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_07]: but that one always stayed

[01:59:38] [SPEAKER_07]: he would not have known that if he hadn't

[01:59:41] [SPEAKER_07]: been there for a long time

[01:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: that's true huh so

[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_07]: he has been in his mother's

[01:59:47] [SPEAKER_07]: life probably

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_07]: for all that Jamie can remember

[01:59:51] [SPEAKER_07]: that's probably yeah so

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean and yeah we talked about that as well

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_07]: about the upon second

[01:59:57] [SPEAKER_07]: viewing of this how it's not as cringy

[01:59:59] [SPEAKER_07]: of a relationship and also one

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_07]: and one of the other things we talked about too is probably

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_07]: the age of which she had

[02:00:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Jamie was very was

[02:00:06] [SPEAKER_07]: relatively young and that

[02:00:08] [SPEAKER_07]: definitely when you look at that dynamic

[02:00:11] [SPEAKER_07]: in other relationships and other real life

[02:00:13] [SPEAKER_07]: parent to child relationships

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_07]: those relationships

[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_07]: tend to develop a little differently

[02:00:18] [SPEAKER_07]: there's always more of a

[02:00:20] [SPEAKER_07]: you're closer like yeah

[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_07]: you're much closer because you're not just

[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_07]: because you're closer in age as your kids raising

[02:00:26] [SPEAKER_03]: kids yes exactly you're growing up together

[02:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: 100%

[02:00:30] [SPEAKER_07]: there's kind of like more of a

[02:00:32] [SPEAKER_07]: friendship than a parenting

[02:00:34] [SPEAKER_07]: relationship it's a team sport

[02:00:36] [SPEAKER_07]: it's a team sport

[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_07]: at that point yeah exactly so

[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah upon I'm with you upon the second

[02:00:42] [SPEAKER_07]: view it didn't come across

[02:00:44] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not that we analyzed

[02:00:46] [SPEAKER_07]: it and said oh this is this isn't as cringy

[02:00:49] [SPEAKER_07]: as we thought it no upon

[02:00:50] [SPEAKER_07]: second viewing we were like you know what

[02:00:52] [SPEAKER_07]: this isn't exactly as cringy as I remember

[02:00:54] [SPEAKER_03]: it being and this is totally everything that

[02:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie needed like I really think

[02:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: on second watch like we really we're

[02:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: watching we're not watching for

[02:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: oh what's gonna happen next we're watching

[02:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: again and we're saying to

[02:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: we're trying to to study the characters

[02:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: right so

[02:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: we've we've had a scrutinizing

[02:01:12] [SPEAKER_03]: eye on Jamie on Nate

[02:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: on Roy this entire time

[02:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and what we see is

[02:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie has made this huge

[02:01:20] [SPEAKER_03]: change over the course of three seasons

[02:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and now he's

[02:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: doing the healthy thing he went home

[02:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: instead of to

[02:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: some random woman's bed

[02:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: or off on off to party

[02:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: with his icon hat and fanny pack

[02:01:34] [SPEAKER_03]: you know he went home

[02:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: he went home to get his center

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_07]: back and that seems to be a common

[02:01:40] [SPEAKER_07]: theme throughout the show too of home

[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_07]: being the place where home

[02:01:44] [SPEAKER_07]: that helps whether it's anything

[02:01:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate did the same thing whether it's

[02:01:48] [SPEAKER_07]: you whether it's you going home

[02:01:50] [SPEAKER_07]: or home coming to you

[02:01:52] [SPEAKER_07]: yes home is a healing factor in

[02:01:54] [SPEAKER_07]: the show because we have Rebecca when

[02:01:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Rebecca's mom shows up well that's what I mean

[02:01:58] [SPEAKER_07]: we had so we had Nate going home

[02:02:00] [SPEAKER_07]: in the last episode we had Rebecca

[02:02:02] [SPEAKER_07]: going home to her mom sleeping

[02:02:04] [SPEAKER_07]: in her childhood bed after her father had

[02:02:06] [SPEAKER_07]: passed away we're going to see Ted

[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_07]: it's not a spoiler at this point

[02:02:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Ted is going to be going home next

[02:02:12] [SPEAKER_07]: episode Sam Obisanya

[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_07]: had his home come to him when his father

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_07]: came to visit home whether it comes to you

[02:02:19] [SPEAKER_07]: or you go to it as a healing factor

[02:02:21] [SPEAKER_07]: in the show it's been a theme for a long time

[02:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: home needs to be safe yeah

[02:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and home hasn't been safe for Nate

[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: home made it home

[02:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: became safe for Nate same with

[02:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Jamie. Jamie viewed

[02:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: his home as his dad because that was

[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_03]: his main motivator for football

[02:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: but now that he doesn't have that

[02:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: anymore he had to go to mom even with

[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate though he still went there

[02:02:42] [SPEAKER_07]: because even though it wasn't completely

[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_07]: safe right safe

[02:02:45] [SPEAKER_07]: it was still a safe space otherwise he wouldn't

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: have gone there his room was safe

[02:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: he wouldn't come out of his room and I'd say

[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: his mother as well yeah well he knew

[02:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: his mother would take care of him in his room

[02:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: but he didn't leave his room unless his

[02:02:58] [SPEAKER_03]: dad was out of the house you're right

[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_07]: it wasn't we didn't see him playing cards

[02:03:02] [SPEAKER_07]: with his family until after that that fracture

[02:03:04] [SPEAKER_07]: where this father was fixed right

[02:03:06] [SPEAKER_07]: so but Jason also

[02:03:08] [SPEAKER_07]: to thank you for bringing up that poem

[02:03:10] [SPEAKER_07]: that may read because I meant to do that during

[02:03:12] [SPEAKER_07]: the the main conversation

[02:03:14] [SPEAKER_07]: and I forgot to do it because

[02:03:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I did look that up

[02:03:18] [SPEAKER_07]: and I saw that it was a poem so

[02:03:20] [SPEAKER_07]: thank you for bringing that to our attention as well

[02:03:22] [SPEAKER_07]: but that leaves us with one more

[02:03:24] [SPEAKER_07]: piece of feedback and I hate teaching poetry

[02:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: so I just went right by it

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that it was a poem and I was like

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_07]: no completely glanced over it

[02:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: just I hate teaching poetry so much

[02:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even want to look at it

[02:03:36] [SPEAKER_07]: but that of course leads us to our last

[02:03:38] [SPEAKER_07]: piece of feedback and that comes from our

[02:03:40] [SPEAKER_07]: friend Steve Brown

[02:03:42] [SPEAKER_06]: hello revisited this is Steve

[02:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: and this is going to be for Ted Lasso

[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_06]: mom city oh this is a nice scene

[02:03:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Ted walking to work and all the people

[02:03:50] [SPEAKER_06]: greeting him and you're still

[02:03:52] [SPEAKER_06]: a wanker oh

[02:03:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Ted's mom we've never seen her before right

[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Jade just disappears

[02:03:58] [SPEAKER_06]: before Nate can introduce her as his girlfriend

[02:04:02] [SPEAKER_06]: these guys visiting

[02:04:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Nate is just great

[02:04:04] [SPEAKER_06]: they want him to come back to Richmond all of them

[02:04:07] [SPEAKER_06]: he still leaves the peanut butter out

[02:04:08] [SPEAKER_06]: and his mom just dipped her fingers in it and took some

[02:04:10] [SPEAKER_06]: oh I guess like mother like son

[02:04:13] [SPEAKER_06]: or like son like mother whatever

[02:04:14] [SPEAKER_06]: this humble Jamie I don't

[02:04:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't get it's not doesn't work for me

[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_06]: but okay Paul is a lie

[02:04:20] [SPEAKER_06]: it should be stricken from the record

[02:04:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Ted is just so awkward

[02:04:24] [SPEAKER_06]: with his mom meeting Rebecca

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_06]: and babies can't talk

[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_06]: they don't have empathy

[02:04:29] [SPEAKER_06]: it's so funny to me every time they say Oklahoma

[02:04:31] [SPEAKER_06]: because that's where I'm from or that's where I live now

[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Oklahoma is home

[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_06]: okay I can go see a man about a horse

[02:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: and she's actually going to buy a horse

[02:04:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it

[02:04:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean in Ted their conversation about the whole

[02:04:44] [SPEAKER_06]: you know what I'm talking about

[02:04:46] [SPEAKER_06]: shouting his Roy's love language

[02:04:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it

[02:04:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Jamie is disturbing

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_06]: where are my wings

[02:04:52] [SPEAKER_06]: where are my wings

[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Will disappointed because he missed the whole thing

[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it that little

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_06]: as he walks out is great

[02:04:59] [SPEAKER_06]: oh beard tell us how you really feel about Dave

[02:05:02] [SPEAKER_06]: if you bring him back you'll burn the place to the ground

[02:05:04] [SPEAKER_06]: week

[02:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Jamie Jamie Jamie a suitcase is a drawer without a home

[02:05:09] [SPEAKER_06]: that's deep

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Keeley just made it worse

[02:05:11] [SPEAKER_06]: with Jamie how are you going to climb out of this

[02:05:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember because I don't remember this episode at all

[02:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: so but what movie are they watching

[02:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: it's um you got mail

[02:05:20] [SPEAKER_06]: right um

[02:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Meg Ryan when Sam and Rebecca looking at each other so

[02:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: oh wait

[02:05:25] [SPEAKER_06]: did I just get the whole Sam and Rebecca isn't that the cheers thing

[02:05:28] [SPEAKER_06]: also you talked about there's a lot of

[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Wizard of Oz motifs in this one isn't there

[02:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: and now the movie is over and Keeley

[02:05:34] [SPEAKER_06]: and Roy are following Jamie somewhere

[02:05:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Jamie's mom is uh

[02:05:38] [SPEAKER_06]: she's hot

[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: and Roy and Jamie's stepdad is

[02:05:42] [SPEAKER_06]: a Paul Hollywood fan and Baker

[02:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: okay I think I'm on board with the whole

[02:05:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Nate is a genius argument because

[02:05:48] [SPEAKER_06]: like he's a great waiter and it's weird how great

[02:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: of a waiter he is but he's a coach

[02:05:51] [SPEAKER_06]: he's got the Roy Kent poster

[02:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and the Keeley poster on his wall

[02:05:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Jamie's room I mean oh

[02:05:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Roy and Keeley not able to finish this conversation

[02:06:00] [SPEAKER_06]: is going to be that's yeah just

[02:06:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Roy obviously well he said it he doesn't want to

[02:06:04] [SPEAKER_06]: he wants to be more than just friends that's right

[02:06:06] [SPEAKER_06]: that's why there was a blue moon in the sky last

[02:06:08] [SPEAKER_06]: night because this whole blue moon thing with Manchester City

[02:06:10] [SPEAKER_06]: they sing this song weird

[02:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Leslie I don't want to move and jinx it

[02:06:14] [SPEAKER_06]: it's gonna set that way the whole game

[02:06:15] [SPEAKER_06]: matches so jade gets

[02:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Nate fired for a reason that's undisclosed

[02:06:19] [SPEAKER_06]: set it before in spoilers I don't remember where Jamie's dad is

[02:06:22] [SPEAKER_06]: just show Jamie's dad where's he at

[02:06:24] [SPEAKER_06]: does now that Jamie's off the oh but

[02:06:26] [SPEAKER_06]: which can wins so they're winning they won the game

[02:06:28] [SPEAKER_06]: a match the bald guy is

[02:06:30] [SPEAKER_06]: the coach that replaced Nate on

[02:06:31] [SPEAKER_06]: is it man city that one that

[02:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: that Nate was on was coach oh sorry

[02:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: how long this is but this uh this is a long episode

[02:06:37] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll coach beard at Nate's

[02:06:39] [SPEAKER_06]: apartment okay so we're getting

[02:06:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Beards backstory here and he stole

[02:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: a loaf of meth I love the lane is reference

[02:06:46] [SPEAKER_06]: all in the hug

[02:06:47] [SPEAKER_06]: all great conversation to attend his mom

[02:06:50] [SPEAKER_06]: and all his fun this is him

[02:06:52] [SPEAKER_06]: how Bex is coming to visit

[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Rebecca when that's the other

[02:06:55] [SPEAKER_06]: assistant of Rupert's right it's now here with Bex

[02:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll find out next episode what Ted's big news is

[02:07:01] [SPEAKER_06]: but we know if we've already watched the series

[02:07:04] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[02:07:05] [SPEAKER_03]: that was one of my top

[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: five live savings ever

[02:07:09] [SPEAKER_07]: there's so much to unpack in that live

[02:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Steven we just agree

[02:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: that that was I'm sorry this is long but

[02:07:14] [SPEAKER_07]: there's a long episode no

[02:07:16] [SPEAKER_07]: and that is one of my favorite live savings too

[02:07:18] [SPEAKER_07]: because there's there's

[02:07:20] [SPEAKER_07]: so much to unpack in that live Steven

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_07]: um first off

[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I completely we didn't mention it

[02:07:26] [SPEAKER_07]: but the but when Jamie

[02:07:28] [SPEAKER_07]: and Roy are in the boot room and he's like

[02:07:30] [SPEAKER_07]: where my wings Roy I can't feel my wings

[02:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: my wings

[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot

[02:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I blocked it out of my memory that

[02:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted's mom stuck her finger in the peanut

[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: butter jar blocked it

[02:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: out of my memory because I almost

[02:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: gagged I thought that was the worst

[02:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: thing in the world was like oh my

[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: gosh that is decades of family

[02:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: finger

[02:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: finger peanut butter fingers

[02:07:55] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[02:07:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Steve yes that is

[02:07:58] [SPEAKER_07]: salmon Rebecca from Cheers we have made

[02:08:00] [SPEAKER_07]: that reference a number of times already

[02:08:02] [SPEAKER_07]: so if you didn't know it by now you missed

[02:08:04] [SPEAKER_07]: it um

[02:08:06] [SPEAKER_03]: you know what in all fairness I forget every episode

[02:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: because I'm not clued into cheers

[02:08:10] [SPEAKER_07]: at all and the

[02:08:12] [SPEAKER_07]: bald coach you are confusing teams

[02:08:14] [SPEAKER_07]: um Manchester United

[02:08:16] [SPEAKER_07]: is the number one team

[02:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: in the league right now West Ham

[02:08:20] [SPEAKER_07]: was the team that

[02:08:22] [SPEAKER_07]: is the team that Rupert owns that

[02:08:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Nate was the coach of

[02:08:27] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah so

[02:08:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Manchester City and West Ham United

[02:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: there was that the actual coach

[02:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: of man man I believe

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I believe it is because I feel like

[02:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: that was a really big moment like even

[02:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: beard was like

[02:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: that looked like that was like a big

[02:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: like a Nick Saban kind of coach you know

[02:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: well I think

[02:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: um anybody who doesn't know Nick Saban

[02:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: is he was the coach

[02:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: of Alabama

[02:08:53] [SPEAKER_07]: um I think the oh my god

[02:08:54] [SPEAKER_07]: oh my god oh my god I don't know if that was

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_07]: talking to the coach I think that was the fact that they

[02:08:58] [SPEAKER_07]: won

[02:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that it was that he talked to that coach

[02:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: because that coach was a big deal

[02:09:04] [SPEAKER_07]: um no I think that I think that was the fact

[02:09:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that was over the fact that they

[02:09:08] [SPEAKER_07]: won but it could be that too I don't know

[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_07]: so

[02:09:12] [SPEAKER_07]: um but thank you uh Stephen Jason

[02:09:14] [SPEAKER_07]: for your feedback for this week

[02:09:16] [SPEAKER_07]: next week

[02:09:18] [SPEAKER_07]: um is the finale

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[02:10:47] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[02:10:50] [SPEAKER_07]: recommendations for the week

[02:10:52] [SPEAKER_07]: anything I mean other than allergy

[02:10:53] [SPEAKER_07]: medicine because oh my gosh

[02:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I have my faith like exploded

[02:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: in the last

[02:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: 90 seconds I'm so

[02:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: sorry if you can hear any of that I've tried

[02:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: to try to mute what I can but

[02:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a lot of sneezing I think the first

[02:11:07] [SPEAKER_07]: one or two kind of got in

[02:11:09] [SPEAKER_07]: at the background the last couple

[02:11:11] [SPEAKER_07]: you muted properly

[02:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what happened I'm so sorry

[02:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: uh recommendations

[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: um well

[02:11:20] [SPEAKER_03]: right now we're

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: um what am I doing right now I'm just

[02:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: trying to like Stranger Things Marathon

[02:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah doing a Stranger Things Marathon

[02:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: we're doing a band of brothers rewatch

[02:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: right now which we do once a year

[02:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and I just love that

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's perfect television band of

[02:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: brothers if you haven't seen it that's my

[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: recommendation watch Band of Brothers

[02:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: it is 10 perfect episodes of

[02:11:42] [SPEAKER_07]: television yeah it's so good I mean

[02:11:44] [SPEAKER_07]: 10 out of 10 I mean you look at the people that

[02:11:46] [SPEAKER_07]: are behind it with Spielberg and Hanks it's

[02:11:48] [SPEAKER_07]: like it's the officials

[02:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: the official sponsors of World War II that's

[02:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah pretty much and

[02:11:54] [SPEAKER_07]: and I mean and the HBO

[02:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: financing and production behind it it's

[02:11:58] [SPEAKER_07]: like and the well and Damien

[02:12:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Lewis Damien Lewis

[02:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: as Captain Winters is

[02:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: just David Schwimmer

[02:12:06] [SPEAKER_07]: is in Band of Brothers like it's

[02:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's wonderful yeah like it's

[02:12:10] [SPEAKER_07]: the cast of that seer I haven't watched

[02:12:12] [SPEAKER_07]: that in years I might have to rewatch that too

[02:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I have to add

[02:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that to my list it's so good

[02:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: it's so worth

[02:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: it's so worth it

[02:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[02:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Cutlass is in it

[02:12:24] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah yes he is one of the first

[02:12:27] [SPEAKER_07]: roles that he had was in Band of Brothers

[02:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: he's so good he has his own

[02:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: episode

[02:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: so not everybody gets their own episodes

[02:12:34] [SPEAKER_03]: he has his own episode and he's

[02:12:36] [SPEAKER_03]: phenomenal in it so

[02:12:38] [SPEAKER_07]: a lot of those mini series that they did

[02:12:41] [SPEAKER_07]: what was the other one

[02:12:43] [SPEAKER_07]: that came out afterwards it wasn't as good

[02:12:45] [SPEAKER_07]: but it was still really good

[02:12:46] [SPEAKER_07]: the Pacific

[02:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: oh the Pacific have you seen it?

[02:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: it is bloody

[02:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: hold on

[02:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: oh no

[02:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't breathe because I'm going to sleep

[02:13:00] [SPEAKER_07]: well I mean

[02:13:01] [SPEAKER_07]: while you're trying to get

[02:13:04] [SPEAKER_07]: that out

[02:13:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I will tell you two other people

[02:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: like I know are in Band of Brothers

[02:13:09] [SPEAKER_07]: and it was very early roles for them too

[02:13:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Rick Gomez who

[02:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: was George

[02:13:16] [SPEAKER_07]: he's from Chuck

[02:13:17] [SPEAKER_07]: which is one of my favorite TV shows

[02:13:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and also Scott Grimes

[02:13:21] [SPEAKER_07]: who was Malarkey

[02:13:23] [SPEAKER_03]: also Michael Fassbender

[02:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: is in it James McAvoy is in it

[02:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: they're very small parts

[02:13:29] [SPEAKER_03]: but they're both in it

[02:13:31] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah but I mean I was surprised to see

[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Colin Hanks is in it

[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_07]: well that's obviously

[02:13:36] [SPEAKER_07]: his father produced it so

[02:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah but Colin Hanks is a good actor

[02:13:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Colin Hanks is a great actor

[02:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Tom Hanks does not subscribe

[02:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: in nepotism as I have

[02:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: read it Tom Hanks was not very

[02:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: attentive

[02:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: to his son during

[02:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: his son's childhood

[02:13:54] [SPEAKER_07]: which one?

[02:13:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Colin

[02:13:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Colin is not

[02:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Rita Wilson's son

[02:14:01] [SPEAKER_07]: no Colin is his first marriage

[02:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah

[02:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah Scott Grimes is Malarkey

[02:14:07] [SPEAKER_07]: like Scott Grimes is in The Orville

[02:14:10] [SPEAKER_07]: which is another television show that I love

[02:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Scott Grimes he was

[02:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: in a season of Dexter

[02:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: do you remember? yes he was

[02:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: he was in the barrel girl season

[02:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and we watched that right after the first

[02:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: time we ever watched Band of Brothers

[02:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and I remember just going I don't

[02:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: like this

[02:14:27] [SPEAKER_07]: because Scott Grimes was not

[02:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: a good guy

[02:14:32] [SPEAKER_07]: he's also in a great

[02:14:34] [SPEAKER_07]: movie if you've ever seen it from

[02:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I think 98 or 99

[02:14:38] [SPEAKER_07]: he plays

[02:14:40] [SPEAKER_07]: a hockey player named Birdie

[02:14:41] [SPEAKER_07]: in Mystery Alaska

[02:14:42] [SPEAKER_07]: which is a great

[02:14:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Mystery Alaska is a great

[02:14:48] [SPEAKER_07]: movie if you've never seen it

[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: you should interview Scott Grimes

[02:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I've tried