51: Episode "Silhouettes" FROM MGM+ Deep Dive

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Speaker 1: Hmm, ah, hmm, one gets bigger.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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My name is Alex.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Lizzie.

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Speaker 2: And we are the what Is From cast, a podcast

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dedicated to the show From, and we are watching episode five one

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, silhouettes and folks.

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But, lizzie, what'd you do this weekend?

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Speaker 3: I went to Atlanta Comic Con.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.

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And how was it?

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I went to Atlanta Comic-Con.

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Yeah, baby.

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Speaker 3: And how was it?

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It was really so much bigger than last year.

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There was 10 or 12.

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I can't remember how many Walking Dead alum that were

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there, but I really didn't leave my table very much.

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I was there selling my books and I just kind of sat there

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throughout the day yeah, you kind of sold out a little kind

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of yeah, sort of kind of I mean, if you don't go with a lot, you

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don't have a lot to sell, to sell out.

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Speaker 2: But true, but I thought I had more than I did

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but, um you know, the fifth book is coming, or the last book is

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coming, the fifth book is coming .

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Yep, and do we have a title for it yet?

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Speaker 3: Book five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Lizzie's Lost Girls, book five.

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Speaker 2: Are they always like book one, book two, book three?

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Yeah, I'm sorry you can definitely do a lot of reading

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of lizzie's books, um, but yeah, no, the final.

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Is this the final one?

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I?

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Speaker 3: don't know yet oh okay, um, I am working my way

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through it.

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Um, I'm gonna get a little heavy uh-oh.

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For a chunk of this year I thought I was dying and I was

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getting freaked out about my book.

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I didn't want to leave it and not have it completed.

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So I was writing it to completion so that people

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wouldn't be left hanging.

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But yesterday things turned around and I no longer think

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that that's going to happen sooner rather than later, unless

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it's a an accident.

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Speaker 2: So well, there's always now huh there's always

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that freak, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean I'm, I'll go where I'm

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called, but at any rate, um, now , I had always said I'd make up

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my mind around book six and, um, this is book five.

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So I still have another book, at least before I have to think

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about it.

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So I don't know.

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Um, there were some cool things that happened this weekend.

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I always am struck by people that come up and talk to me

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about the book because they've read it me every time they see

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me and because they know, you know, they're not going to get

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to all of them at once, but, um, and I love seeing those people

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and hearing what they have to say.

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But someone walked up to my table and she's like I've heard

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all about this book.

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I'm like, really.

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And she said and I'm like, where would you hear about this

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book?

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And she said she heard it on a true crime podcast.

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What.

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I know right.

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So she thinks it was either oh, shoot, it was either my

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Favorite Murder or crap.

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I forgot what the other one's called.

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I don't think I brought oh, I did bring my my phone in here,

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um, and they're both podcasts that make it into my rotation,

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because I do listen to a lot of true crime.

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Um, oh, crime junkie Duh, I knew it was something simple, um

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, so it was mentioned on one of those two.

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I'm leaning towards my favorite murder, based on their layout

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of things.

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So we'll see, but it was weird.

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Usually, you know, it's negative talk about me and I

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don't care about that.

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Like, oh, like more power to you.

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It's none of my business, I don't care about that.

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I'll like more power to you, it's none of my business.

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Speaker 2: As I told you before, I always like promoting your

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stuff because it's Walking Dead Universe and that's kind of the

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way we started on this network.

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So we're gearing up I know the network is gearing up for next

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week, the big Rick Grimes finale .

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Speaker 3: The ones who live I don't know if it's going to be a

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finale Now.

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I've heard there's going to be another season, and today I

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heard that Tales of the Walking Dead is filming.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Well, they're trying to expand the universe, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Tales, I like the same it has its

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moments.

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Speaker 2: It has its moments.

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I like it as its moments and that is moments.

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Speaker 3: But let's get into our, our episode five, season

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one.

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Silhouettes, silhouettes.

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And what was your first thoughts?

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It's the same thought I have with every every episode.

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I'm just floored.

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I continue to be wowed and surprised, when you would think

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that you wouldn't be surprised, since you've already seen these

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episodes multiple times.

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And there's just these little nuances that I'm picking up that

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are not meaningless.

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They have a point and I'm like wow, without watching it this

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way, you miss so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and we're going to try to get into

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the ones that we find.

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And, folks, if you find any that we don't, please let us

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know, Because I know we've heard from some fans telling us well,

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why didn't you talk about this?

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Why didn't you talk about that?

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You know what?

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It's great stuff and that's what it's all about.

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But how about we start with the cold open?

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Because we did get another cold open again and that was kind of

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fun.

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Speaker 3: There were two scenes in the cold open.

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The first scene is the barn exterior and you can hear goats

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bleeding and Nathan is feeding the goats and a woman comes

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running up to tell Nathan something is wrong with Sarah,

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so he runs to the clinic.

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The second scene is the clinic interior.

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Now this is the whole piece.

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After Sarah collapses on the floor in the diner, christy is

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examining Sarah and Sarah says she's feeling better.

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Christy wants Sarah to spend the night for observation.

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Sarah doesn't want to, but Christy offers to get Nathan and

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Sarah refuses because he worries and Christy and ask

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Christy to say that she's sleeping if Nathan comes by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that, you think?

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Speaker 3: You know it's funny that you should ask, because I

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didn't think of it at the time.

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I've got all these like single hairs flying in my face.

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It's because she doesn't want to talk to Nathan about what she

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did to Toby.

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You know, like I don't think she wants to answer for that,

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because there's a scene where Nathan is sitting at the table

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and there's her bloody clothes and it's not going to get to

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that.

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I scraped a knee.

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It's full on soaked in blood.

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So she doesn't want to answer to him about that.

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So then Boyd comes in and Christy goes to speak with him.

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And Boyd asks how Sarah is.

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Christy says fine, given the circumstances and this hasn't

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happened before, according to Sarah, I think, meaning the

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convulsions.

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So now we have two people that have had convulsions, Ethan and

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Sarah.

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Unless there's an MRI machine, there's no way to really know

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what's going on.

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Christy says she's going to keep her overnight and Boyd asks

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if she's ready for that.

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And she said she doesn't know how the door got open, but she's

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not letting those things take this place away from her.

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They both agree that those things have already taken too

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much already.

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So then Boyd asks about the seizures First Ethan, now Sarah.

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Are they having a physical reaction to this place?

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And I think that's a pretty interesting question are they

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having a physical reaction to this place?

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Speaker 2: yeah, I mean there is , there is something to be said.

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I know some people were were commenting that ethan is very

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well connected to it, right, and and then you know, victor could

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be connected to it in a Right next season.

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We see his emotion towards a musical instrument, with the

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violin, and and then his, then his connection with mrs lou.

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So I mean, there there are.

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There are some definite tie-ins and um, but what's nice about

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this is they, they.

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They have everybody going in different directions, but

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they're still making the plot move or the story move to get

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closer to why are they there?

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Speaker 3: Right and I wanted to .

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I was just going to ask you a question, sorry, no, that's all

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right, it was my fault.

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Speaker 2: Boyd with Nathan.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and Sarah's having a physical reaction to

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this place.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's just call it what it is Sarah got bit or

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infested with the squirmy worms.

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Now let's just call it what it is.

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How did she get them in her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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That makes me wonder if she was in the same kind of place that

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Boyd was in Exactly.

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Did she see Martin?

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So, and when?

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Yeah, when did she.

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Speaker 2: It's before the show started, right.

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Speaker 3: And you see where I have it, because I'm keeping a

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timeline every time someone mentions something.

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So last in are the Matthews, and then, a few months before

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that, sarah and Nathan that came out of this episode, and then

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six months after the Matthews was Christy, and then Donna is

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three years, six months and 17 days.

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So that's basically our order right now.

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That's basically our order right now.

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Donna, aside from Victor, who's been there for a very long time

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, donna is old man right now.

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Let's see, normally diagnosed is one thing on the outside, but

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something different is here.

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So that's what Christy is saying.

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Her response is that if you asked her this six months ago

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yeah, no, she said it in this episode If you asked her about

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this six months ago, that anything in this place would be

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impossible.

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So, which makes sense.

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Christy notices that Boyd is having trouble with his hand.

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This is the first time we noticed this or that someone

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else notices it.

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Christy asks how long Boyd has been having this problem.

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He deflects and says long enough that it's got him asking

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stupid questions.

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So he totally changes subject.

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She calls him on the carpet and she tells him to come by

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tomorrow so she can take a look at it.

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You know, of course, he'll be too busy.

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He says no need, he already knows what it is, because it's

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something that his father had.

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Nathan comes running toward the clinic.

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Christy tells Boyd that Sarah doesn't want to see him and Boyd

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tells her to take care of Sarah and he'll take care of Nathan.

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The third scene we're still on the cold open.

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Oh wow, there's six scenes in the cold open.

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Sorry, I misspoke earlier, so it's the clinic exterior.

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Boyd exits the clinic and starts slowing Nathan's roll.

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Nathan asks if she's okay.

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Boyd tells him that he's fine and sleeping.

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Boyd tells Nathan that he can see her tomorrow.

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Nathan is insisting that he see her now and Boyd asks if

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anything else is going on that they should know about to help

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Christy figure out what's wrong.

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Nathan says he's just worried about his little sister.

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Boyd says it's Christy's first night back since and that they

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shouldn't be going in and making it more stressful than it

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already is.

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Tells Nathan to go home and see her in the morning.

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Nathan agrees, chris Christie watches him go and Boyd leaves.

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So then we're at the fourth scene, which is the Matthews

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house, and they're in the kitchen.

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Ethan and Tabitha and Jim are at the table.

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Ethan asks about Sarah.

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Tabitha assures him that she'll be okay.

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Jim enters and asks if Ethan remembers Christy and tells him

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that Christy will patch up Sarah the same way she patched him up

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.

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Jim digs through the laptop bag and brings over two markers and

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gives them each a marker.

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They will play a game and we'll figure it out, meaning what

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this whole place is about.

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The fifth scene is the Matthew's house hallway.

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Jim says that they will do some problem solving and the way to

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do that is by asking questions.

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So we have all done something similar to this in school and

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they call it brainstorming.

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And that's all they're doing here, except they're putting it

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in a question form Ask every question that might apply, no

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matter how crazy or unlikely, and put it in on a board to ID

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everything that you know and everything that you don't.

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The first question that Jim writes on the wall is where are

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we?

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And he says that's where we begin.

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Um, let's see.

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What would you write on the wall, alex?

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Speaker 2: You know I I like Tabitha's question at the end Um

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are we alive?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, question at the end um are we alive?

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Yeah, that's a good one.

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Um on any brainstorming exercise.

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Are we alive?

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Speaker 2: um yeah, it's just um .

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What's up with these monsters?

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Yeah, where do they come from?

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Speaker 3: monsters.

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Where do they come from?

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Speaker 2: Why us?

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Why us?

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Speaker 3: Why us?

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That would be my question.

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Why us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Alright.

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So the last scene in the cold open is Sarah and Nathan's house

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.

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In the dining room, nathan sits at the table looking at and

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thinking about Sarah's bloody dress.

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So now we're into the show.

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Seventh scene they pan down the main street at dusk.

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That's it.

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Eighth scene the clinic interior.

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Sarah opens a drawer.

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She sees a scalpel and she reflects back on her arm with

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the words written on it.

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Sarah is holding her arm when Christy comes in and she tells

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Christy that she can't sleep.

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Christy says that she can't either and offers her some tea.

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Sarah closes the door In the night scene.

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In Christy's roomah says that christy, because they're

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actually.

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Did you look at christy's room?

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It's pretty cool looking, it's comfortable.

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I want that room, and so they're just hanging out there

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having a girl's night yeah, they were having fun yeah, which you

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know you don't often see.

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Christy says that they're just friends.

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Oh, Sarah asked about Kenny and comments that they make a cute

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couple, and Christy says we're just friends.

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Sarah asks why, when Kenny is really sweet and loves Christy?

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Christy says it's complicated because she has someone at home

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and thinks she's still waiting.

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Her name is Marielle and they're engaged.

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Christy wonders all the time what it must be like for her

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thinking that Christy abandoned her.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out soon enough.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she will.

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When asked if she has anyone back home, sarah says no, she

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was with someone, but it's better that he's not around

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anymore.

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It's just her and Nathan.

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Yeah, she has in the world.

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That whole storyline is so messed up someone, but it's

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better that he's not around anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's just her and nathan yeah, she has in the

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world that whole storyline is so messed up and and you know, I

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understand that they don't have to give us everything all at

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once, but it's been two seasons, like, and I realized that that

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they end up, you know, killing Nathan off at the end of this

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episode and it's just like, and maybe this is a lost thing, and

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if it is, it's dumb.

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I can't stand it.

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But like you can't leave that stuff hanging, yeah.

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And then I mean, when are they going to bring it up Next season

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?

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Like it's important information .

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Is she abused?

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I still don't think they're brother and sister or they're

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incestual.

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Or maybe they were foster siblings, whatever, If they are

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fosters, then how hard is it to say we're fosters.

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You know what I mean, like just kind of the whole yeah, it's

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frustrating.

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That storyline is just very frustrating to me.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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It is, and I've noticed that it feels like they had the show

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fairly fleshed out as far as the setup goes, you know, but it

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feels like at times they were rewriting the script as they

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were going, because something made more sense this way or this

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, you know, was something cool they thought of and they wanted

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to include it.

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I do feel like we're missing out something on something with

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knowing this piece about Sarah.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like it's an important piece.

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For some reason, I don't know why, but it probably isn't.

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But at the same time, let us be the judge of that.

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Yeah, and again, we don't need to know everything all at once.

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No, like the whole arm squirrely things we didn't need

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to know in the first season.

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Actually, I think nine times out of ten.

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Most people forgot about it until boyd.

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Speaker 3: well, yeah, and that's when you're supposed to

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remember it, though, but I'm just saying like that's how

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important and unimportant it is.

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Speaker 2: And now, doing the rewatch, we realize how

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important it is.

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But I'm just saying like that's a good thing to come back to,

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but like how can you come back when you kill off the character?

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I don't know.

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Speaker 3: What Nathan?

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Yeah, oh, oh, he's not squirreling.

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I don't know.

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I just see him as a casualty of sarah.

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Oh no, I get it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not, I'm not, it's just they could have

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wrapped it up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know okay, um , let's see.

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When, asked if she has anyone back at home, sarah says no.

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Before they came here, things weren't good for her.

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Nathan saved her.

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She asked Christy if there was something that she could do,

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something that would let you see Marielle again.

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Let everyone go home, even if it was something bad, would you

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it?

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And christy asked for clarification, and this is the

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important question.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the question of the whole show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like how far are you willing, you know, to

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act in order to go home?

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I?

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Speaker 2: mean because christy, christy basically gave her the

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license to do what she did yeah, not knowingly.

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I'm not saying it's christy's fault, but at the same time it's

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not not christy's fault and, and you know, I mean it's not

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really her fault, but it's just yeah, christy, didn't know what,

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christy didn't know, she didn't know what was going on you know

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, and she just says it's a lot of good for one bad thing if

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everybody gets to go home.

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I think, though, that it just played very well.

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Right now, everybody hates her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right now.

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Everybody hates her, yeah, and she's kind of a victim of

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circumstance, which we're going to come to find out, but I feel

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like she always allows herself to be a victim because Nathan

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had to save her, which tells you she was a victim in that,

00:23:04
wherever she was, maybe.

00:23:06
Um, so we hit the 10th scene.

00:23:10
This is the beginning of day four for the matthews, so I want

00:23:16
to.

00:23:17
I'm trying to keep track of what day we're on.

00:23:20
So the sun is out.

00:23:22
Jim looks at the questions written on the wall while

00:23:24
Tabitha sits sleeping on the couch with a sleeping Ethan.

00:23:29
There are bubbles with tree slash crows, a road and a

00:23:35
drawing of the earth with North America, south America and part

00:23:38
of Africa, the word vortex, something written with portal.

00:23:45
It was kind of hard to read a lot of it, but I got what I got.

00:23:49
Written at the bottom of the earth question mark on South

00:23:54
America Looks like a cross on North America between US and

00:23:59
Canada.

00:23:59
Creature slash biological question mark Real question mark

00:24:04
Alien question mark real question mark alien question

00:24:07
mark.

00:24:07
Do they feed on dot, dot, dot?

00:24:10
Where do they go?

00:24:12
Do they sleep?

00:24:13
And then Tabitha wakes up.

00:24:16
She tells him to tell her that he's figured it out and he and

00:24:21
the kids that he did and the answer is 12.

00:24:24
Yeah, I love that.

00:24:28
Yeah, he wants to go over it again, which is what you do.

00:24:31
Everyone enters from different parts of the country on

00:24:34
different roads, so we're getting a little bit of

00:24:36
exposition here in different places, and they all see the

00:24:40
same tree, the same crows.

00:24:44
She interrupts him and says that everyone here has asked the

00:24:48
same question over and over again.

00:24:50
How will writing these questions on the wall make a

00:24:53
difference?

00:24:53
And Jim says there's plenty in the world.

00:24:55
That doesn't make sense.

00:24:57
Something here is missing.

00:24:59
We just can't see it yet, but we will.

00:25:02
Tabitha says there's one question that they haven't asked

00:25:06
and he gives her the marker, but she refuses and says it's

00:25:09
crazy and she doesn't want to know the answer.

00:25:12
So then we go to the 11th scene , where it's the clinic exterior

00:25:18
front door.

00:25:18
Christy walks Sarah out, asks again if she wants some oatmeal.

00:25:23
Sarah says she's not really hungry and thanks her for for

00:25:26
last night.

00:25:26
Christie invites her to do it again as Nathan approaches them.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: Right.

00:25:32
Speaker 3: Sarah says that he's very persistent.

00:25:34
Christie asks if she's okay.

00:25:36
Sarah says that he cares a lot and he does, cause his sister is

00:25:41
nuts.

00:25:41
Apparently, sarah joined Nathan .

00:25:43
Command that nathan is up early .

00:25:46
He says that they need to talk.

00:25:48
She apologizes for worrying him .

00:25:51
He says he needs to know what happened.

00:25:53
She says that she was standing in the diner one minute and the

00:25:58
next she was on the floor and doesn't remember much other than

00:26:01
that.

00:26:02
He asked why she's suddenly acting like everything is okay.

00:26:06
She says she needs to get to the diner.

00:26:09
He tries to stop her and she says she's okay and that she

00:26:13
loves him and walks off and it's like it's.

00:26:19
She can't be reasoned with.

00:26:22
She can't.

00:26:23
She won't give him any information.

00:26:26
She wants him to be involved when she wants him to be.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: She wants him to solve a problem, but she won't

00:26:32
give him all the pieces.

00:26:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, yeah.

00:26:37
So the 12th scene is colony house interior, julie's little

00:26:42
bed chamber.

00:26:43
Fatima says knock, knock, while julie is on her bed writing in

00:26:47
a journal.

00:26:47
Julie is making a list of all the people that are probably

00:26:51
wondering where they are right now, and fatima, um, she thinks

00:26:58
it's worse for them not knowing.

00:27:00
Speaker 2: fatima made the same your mic, you keep, you keep

00:27:03
getting your mic with that when you move all your stuff oh, I'm

00:27:06
sorry yeah, no, it's like, it's like it's jarring.

00:27:10
I'm sorry no, that's okay, I just want to let you know, so

00:27:12
you didn't keep doing it, that's all okay, I'm so sorry, dear

00:27:16
listeners.

00:27:17
Speaker 3: no, I made one mistake.

00:27:18
I mean, fate made one list and thinks that everyone else has

00:27:21
two julie lists off who's on hers?

00:27:24
She doesn't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend.

00:27:26
Fatima says they need some fun and to get dressed and meet her

00:27:30
downstairs in five minutes.

00:27:32
So colony house exterior, interior shed.

00:27:37
Fatima goes to Ellis who is sculpting, tells him no more

00:27:42
work because Julie is making the list, suggests that they go to

00:27:46
Brundle's Right.

00:27:48
The 14th scene is colony interior.

00:27:52
Julie sits at a window thinking and looks like she's crying.

00:27:56
Fatima comes to her.

00:27:57
There you are.

00:27:58
I've been looking everywhere for you.

00:28:00
What's wrong?

00:28:01
I think maybe I made a mistake because Julie's second guessing

00:28:06
her colony house choice.

00:28:07
Fatima, it was hard for me too at first.

00:28:12
I'll tell you a secret.

00:28:13
It helped once I figured out how to get my clothes back from

00:28:17
Trudy.

00:28:17
You know, what.

00:28:21
I think that's a scene from last week.

00:28:25
It was Sorry everybody.

00:28:28
So the true 14th scene is the gas station bar exterior, and

00:28:34
this is a fun scene.

00:28:37
Jade is walking along with the radio under his arm and talking

00:28:41
to himself.

00:28:42
Just a fucking idiot.

00:28:45
That's special relativity.

00:28:48
So special relativity is an explanation of how speed affects

00:28:53
mass, time and space.

00:28:55
The theory includes a way for the speed of light to define the

00:28:59
relationship between energy and matter.

00:29:01
Small amounts of mass can be interchangeable with enormous

00:29:06
amounts of energy, as defined by the classic equation that we

00:29:11
all can recite and not necessarily understand what it

00:29:14
means.

00:29:14
But E equals MC squared.

00:29:16
And of course, anytime you think of that equation, you

00:29:21
think of Einstein.

00:29:22
Now, relativity is two related theories special relativity,

00:29:29
which explains the relationship between space, time, mass and

00:29:32
energy, and general relativity, which describes how gravity fits

00:29:36
into the mix.

00:29:37
So gravity acts on everything, but not all at the same rate of

00:29:46
force.

00:29:46
So gravity is less on the moon than it is here on Earth, and

00:29:54
out in space it's totally different, you know, just out

00:29:58
there in the void.

00:29:58
But there is gravity because that's how stars are formed.

00:30:03
When dust and rocks and ice and stuff come close enough to each

00:30:09
other.

00:30:09
They start to gather and they pull in other particles of dust,

00:30:15
rocks, ice rocks, whatever, all that stuff.

00:30:19
So Jade is just going back and forth trying to figure out what

00:30:28
this place is and he's approaching it from a scientific

00:30:31
point of view.

00:30:33
So he says oh, klein Hardee's, klein Hardee's, einstein,

00:30:39
poldolsky, rosen he says he's just figured it out.

00:30:43
Rosen, he says he's just figured it out.

00:30:45
And this is the Einstein.

00:30:47
Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen introduced a thought experiment

00:30:55
to argue that quantum mechanics was not a complete physical

00:30:56
theory, known today as the EPR Einstein, podolsky and Rosen

00:31:01
paradox.

00:31:01
The thought experiment was meant to demonstrate the innate

00:31:06
conceptual difficulties of quantum theory.

00:31:08
Above my pay grade at this time of night.

00:31:14
So all of a sudden the fun part of this scene rings out it's

00:31:17
Trudy, and she says where are you going with that?

00:31:21
And he's pulled out of his thoughts and turns to see her on

00:31:24
the porch.

00:31:25
She asks if that's a radio.

00:31:27
He says sort of.

00:31:29
And she asks why he's carrying it around and he tells her it

00:31:31
helps him to think.

00:31:32
She tells him that he is even cuter when he's awake and she

00:31:38
tells him that she watched him when he was sleeping and tells

00:31:42
him that she's Trudy.

00:31:43
She tells him that it's too bad that he chose the town because

00:31:48
she would have ridden him like an alabaster dragon, and then

00:31:53
she walks away.

00:31:56
Jade walks into the bar, apparently needing a drink.

00:31:59
So the next scene is the sheriff's office interior.

00:32:05
Boyd sits at his desk looking at the lamp.

00:32:08
Kenny enters.

00:32:09
Good morning, sheriff.

00:32:11
I stopped by the diner to let my mom know that Sarah's okay,

00:32:15
he's holding some Tupperware with bread, things that Boyd

00:32:18
likes, and that Mrs Lou makes a fresh bread.

00:32:22
Sheriff.

00:32:22
Yep, boyd doesn't take notice of Kenny.

00:32:26
And then finally, boyd says I'm going to need you to hold down

00:32:28
the fort for a little bit.

00:32:29
Kenny wonders if everything is okay and Boyd says that it is.

00:32:33
Boyd grabs a talisman and says he's going to visit his wife.

00:32:37
It's been a while.

00:32:39
Boyd leaves and Kenny sits down at the desk and opens up the

00:32:43
Tupperware and goes for the bread.

00:32:45
I don't know why Boyd didn't take it with him.

00:32:48
So now we're back to the bar.

00:32:49
It's a busy makeshift bar.

00:32:52
Customers are drinking.

00:32:54
Jade stands in wonderment what the hell you guys built a bar in

00:32:58
this fucking place.

00:32:59
Tom says yeah, you end up in a place like this.

00:33:02
You ask yourself what do people need?

00:33:04
Turns out it's not a fucking gas station.

00:33:08
So I figured hey, you know, are you okay?

00:33:12
And Jade says no, no, I'm not okay, are you okay?

00:33:15
Tom says he's great and pours Jade a drink that I don't know.

00:33:26
I think maybe Tom was a mole you know what?

00:33:30
Speaker 2: I guess he's not because he's dead yeah, taking

00:33:34
him out.

00:33:34
Speaker 3: Maybe his um shift was over, I don't know.

00:33:38
Um.

00:33:40
Jade says what the fuck?

00:33:43
How you?

00:33:44
Why are you all still sitting here?

00:33:46
He yells to the room and takes a drink from Tom's potato vodka

00:33:51
and spits it out and he's like holy fuck, what is this shit?

00:33:54
If this had been an escape room , this potato vodka would have

00:33:58
gone one step too far.

00:34:00
So that's just a throwback to Toby him.

00:34:05
Toby has set him up with the ultimate um escape room.

00:34:09
Tom tells him it's the poor man's potato vodka.

00:34:13
In a teasing way, jake takes another squig and is just as

00:34:16
disgusted by it.

00:34:17
Tom says you're one of the guys from the two cars and jade

00:34:20
groans your friend, uh, got, yeah, yeah, look it's.

00:34:23
If it's any consolation, it gets easier.

00:34:26
I don't know how that can be a consolation.

00:34:28
Jade scoffs and tells Tom that's rich.

00:34:32
You know you guys are.

00:34:33
You're like rats in a maze sitting there contentedly

00:34:37
nibbling on your cheese.

00:34:38
This is a paradox.

00:34:40
That's the problem.

00:34:41
Jade stands up with a drink in his hand.

00:34:44
The immediate question is how do we get home?

00:34:47
Right, how do we get out?

00:34:49
How do we get out of here?

00:34:50
Because unless we know where here is, we can't get out of

00:34:55
here and he's got a pretty, pretty important point there,

00:35:00
because, like, how do you go a to b when you don't know where a

00:35:04
is?

00:35:04
Speaker 2: and he starts throwing the darts, which makes

00:35:06
it.

00:35:06
If you don't know where your starting point is, how are you

00:35:09
supposed to?

00:35:10
Speaker 3: it's like it's like.

00:35:12
Speaker 2: It's like trying to sail without the stars yeah,

00:35:15
exactly so.

00:35:18
Speaker 3: Um, you're just throwing darts blind.

00:35:21
You don't even fucking know where the fucking target is.

00:35:23
You don't even know where the fucking target is.

00:35:25
Maybe it's just over.

00:35:25
Know where the fucking target is.

00:35:26
Maybe it's just over here, I don't know.

00:35:27
Maybe it's just like it went that way because Jade is

00:35:30
throwing darts at every which direction Tom steps in to stop

00:35:34
him.

00:35:34
Jade is getting nuts.

00:35:35
Jade concludes that eventually you just give up and accept that

00:35:39
you can't get out because you have no idea where you're trying

00:35:42
to get out of.

00:35:44
So you sit around drinking your acidic potato piss water that

00:35:49
you call vodka.

00:35:51
Tom has sat down with Jim at a table Not Jim Jade, sorry.

00:35:56
He has a bottle in hand and is ready to keep Jade refilled.

00:36:00
Interesting Tom says let me guess you're going to be the guy

00:36:04
that figures this all out.

00:36:05
Jade assures him that he is indeed that guy.

00:36:09
People like me we design the maze, we place the cheese.

00:36:13
I don't know what you did before you got here, but I just

00:36:16
sold a company for an obscene amount of money based on quantum

00:36:20
computing algorithm with the potential to and he pauses I'm

00:36:25
not supposed to be here.

00:36:26
I'm not supposed to be celebrating.

00:36:27
I'm supposed to be celebrating right now.

00:36:29
Look, we can't get out of here unless we know where it is, so

00:36:38
um and they start to talk about stroding, stroding, I can't say

00:36:41
it, right, the cat oh, shright, shright.

00:36:46
Why schreudinger's cat?

00:36:48
Speaker 2: I can't believe, I can't say it all of a sudden I

00:36:50
mean the bottom line about this scene is yes, the bottom line

00:36:54
about this scene is jade learns that he's not the only idiot

00:36:57
that's tried to figure this out and he needs to just shut the

00:37:01
fuck up and do what he does.

00:37:02
But you know what?

00:37:03
I'm sorry.

00:37:05
Like you know, I'm a bartender, but I people don't want to hear

00:37:10
what I have to say, so I'm making liquor, you know, I mean.

00:37:13
I don't know about that.

00:37:14
No, he's a philosopher from UCLA, he's a, you know, tom, tom

00:37:20
is an educated person, but they're also, they're also there

00:37:23
.

00:37:23
You know you can't be on defcom one every day when, when you've

00:37:29
been there for months, you know it's, it's kind of like the

00:37:33
pandemic and you get over it.

00:37:34
You have to kind of live your life and I think that that's the

00:37:38
thing that, um, that jade just doesn't understand right now.

00:37:42
You know they're all like go, go, go, go, go.

00:37:44
Well, yeah, you're the new guy, and then you realize you can't

00:37:47
go anywhere.

00:37:47
So I mean I thought that was a good scene.

00:37:51
Speaker 3: I mean I thought that was a good scene, but to me

00:37:57
tom's behavior just added to my mole theory and uh I, I did not.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you could, you could say that, but I

00:38:08
could also see him just being like dude.

00:38:10
We're here like chill the fuck out, have a have a drink, and

00:38:17
you know, if he had come in, I mean tom, tom could have come in

00:38:23
, come, but Tom could have acted a little bit different knowing

00:38:29
that Jade was brand new.

00:38:31
But he's also conditioned like dude.

00:38:41
I know where you've been, like you're not the first person

00:38:44
that's thought about all these things.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my point .

00:38:47
That's my point, yeah.

00:38:49
Speaker 2: I mean, and everybody goes to the bar.

00:38:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, ethan.

00:38:58
Speaker 2: Maybe next year.

00:39:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see there was something All right.

00:39:15
Yeah, let's see there was something all right.

00:39:16
Then sarah goes.

00:39:17
Just, he compares schrodinger, schrodinger's cat, which we know

00:39:18
is like the cat is in the box, the cat is dead, the cat is

00:39:20
alive.

00:39:20
But to the people back home they're the cat because they're

00:39:27
alive and they're dead at the same time, because people back

00:39:31
home don't know the final status of these people.

00:39:35
So anyway, tom is just, I don't know.

00:39:44
He's trying to get Jade to think and I think that he brings

00:39:50
up that theory because of that.

00:39:52
He, you know, jade was, you know, talking about EPR before

00:39:58
he was coming in the door, tom being a philosopher teacher,

00:40:03
philosophy teacher.

00:40:05
He's going to also tie Jaden knots, you know, in thought.

00:40:12
So, at any rate, we move on to the town in front of the

00:40:18
Matthews house.

00:40:19
Sarah stands in front of the Matthews house.

00:40:21
She pulls the scaffold from her skirt pocket, puts it back in

00:40:25
and walks to the door of the house.

00:40:28
Now we're in the Matthews house.

00:40:29
In the bedroom Tabitha is checking Ethan's wound and she

00:40:33
changes the dressing.

00:40:34
He says it's just a little sore .

00:40:37
Tabitha is astonished at how fast it's healing.

00:40:41
Ethan thinks this place is special.

00:40:43
He knows it tries to hurt people, but maybe it tries to

00:40:49
help people too.

00:40:49
So maybe it tries to help hurt people which the Matthews family

00:40:55
are.

00:40:55
Maybe that one of the questions on the wall is is there anyone

00:41:00
trying to help?

00:41:01
That's what Ethan's question is .

00:41:04
Jim yells that Ethan has a visitor.

00:41:07
So downstairs Ethan greets Sarah and, um, he points out the

00:41:13
writing on the wall.

00:41:14
Tabitha asks how Sarah's feeling and if Christy figured

00:41:17
out what was wrong.

00:41:18
And Sarah, she says not yet.

00:41:20
And that's just one of those things.

00:41:23
Sarah and Ethan decide to go to the playground outside.

00:41:26
Ethan takes her to the merry-go-round, saying it's his

00:41:30
favorite, and we only see Sarah on the merry-go-round, with the

00:41:34
town moving in the background, sort of like the boy in white.

00:41:38
Now we're at the church exterior.

00:41:41
Nathan walks up to the door and goes in.

00:41:43
We're inside.

00:41:45
Nathan enters and calls out for Father Cautry as he comes

00:41:49
deeper into the church and passes the pulpit and there's no

00:41:52
answer.

00:41:53
Now we're at the forest, at the Brundles.

00:41:58
It's a swimming hole with a long dock and everyone swims

00:42:02
there.

00:42:02
I don't know, would you feel comfortable swimming there?

00:42:08
Speaker 2: You know what, if you're there long enough, you do

00:42:11
what you got to do and that's what's normal, but that's the

00:42:14
Lake of Tears.

00:42:14
So you know, maybe they get some extra something, something,

00:42:18
but yeah, no, it would be pretty scary.

00:42:21
Speaker 3: I mean, the good news is the good news, but the good

00:42:24
news is it's during the day, so it's not like they're coming out

00:42:27
of it yeah, but it's dark underneath the water, like it

00:42:31
might be dark enough for them to swim up and grab their feet and

00:42:33
drag them down into the pits of that cave and eat them.

00:42:37
I don't know, that's, I don't know.

00:42:40
So anyway, they just have a nice swimming afternoon and they

00:42:47
just need to show off.

00:42:48
Speaker 2: They need to show off all the kids without any

00:42:51
clothes why was anyone naked?

00:42:54
I thought they were well, no, they're all bathing suits.

00:42:56
I'm saying you know so like you know, cordy, and has to be like

00:43:00
shirtless and you know yeah they have to get their.

00:43:03
They got to get their money's worth with them, you know okay,

00:43:06
I see.

00:43:08
Speaker 3: So fatima says, if you close your eyes, this could

00:43:11
be anywhere else in the world right and julie's like how do

00:43:15
you stay so positive?

00:43:16
And she says it depends on how you choose to look at it.

00:43:18
She didn't come to the us until she was 11 and grew up with in

00:43:22
iran with her parents and two older brothers.

00:43:25
Her father was an outspoken cleric, which they tend to not

00:43:29
do well in iran um.

00:43:33
Speaker 2: Clerics never do well in any situation when there's

00:43:35
controversy.

00:43:37
Speaker 3: Well, they do if they are toting the party line.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: True.

00:43:42
Speaker 3: Um, so let's see, this day was going to be one of

00:43:47
the best one, until some men came to the door and her father

00:43:50
was killed.

00:43:51
Her point is that there will always be monsters in the world

00:43:55
and that she will never let them scare the life out of her.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: I mean realistically.

00:44:00
I mean, like for her living in the Middle East, the way, as

00:44:08
crazy as it is, not that?

00:44:10
Not that it's the same in any way.

00:44:12
I'm not trying to make that, but, like you, look at what's

00:44:16
going on today.

00:44:17
At least you know when they're coming at you.

00:44:20
It's at night, you know.

00:44:22
I mean, at least you know it's.

00:44:24
And they have a defense because they've got a talisman so I you

00:44:28
know not that, not that this is easier, because it's not, but

00:44:32
it's sure as hell not worse.

00:44:34
So at least least you know who's coming at you.

00:44:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe in Iran you think you're safer

00:44:41
because you are a cleric and they revere religion so highly.

00:44:47
Speaker 2: Unless you're the religion.

00:44:49
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's the same religion.

00:44:51
The only problem was that he was outspoken.

00:44:53
So yeah.

00:44:54
All right.

00:44:56
So now we are back at the playground.

00:44:59
Ethan pushes the merry-go-round while Sarah rides it.

00:45:02
Tabitha looks from the window, thinking Ethan is acting like

00:45:06
himself.

00:45:06
Ethan asks Sarah how long she's been there and she says just a

00:45:11
few months, tells her that his parents are trying to figure out

00:45:14
where they are so they can all go home, because that's what the

00:45:18
promenade would do.

00:45:20
And she asked what the promenade is.

00:45:22
Speaker 2: She's like you're not going anywhere, I'm killing

00:45:24
your ass.

00:45:25
Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.

00:45:26
Tabitha comments that Sarah is a sweet girl.

00:45:30
Tabitha goes out and tells Ethan not to make Sarah sit

00:45:33
there because it's filthy, and Sarah says it's OK and fun not

00:45:38
to make Sarah sit there because it's filthy, and Sarah says it's

00:45:40
okay and fun.

00:45:40
Ethan tells Tabitha that Sarah said that they can go see the

00:45:42
goats and chickens at the barn.

00:45:43
Sarah tells Tabitha that Nathan tends to the animals.

00:45:46
When Tabitha says she's going to tell Jim that they are going

00:45:50
to the barn, sarah quickly says that she can take Ethan.

00:45:53
Jim is walking along the wall with a marker in his hand

00:45:56
thinking when Tabitha tells him that they're going to the barn.

00:46:00
So Tabitha really puts a crank in Sarah's plan.

00:46:08
So now we're back in the forest and it's a clearing at Abby's

00:46:12
grave.

00:46:12
Boyd walks down the path to Abby's grave and he says hey,

00:46:16
babe, it's been a while Things have been well.

00:46:18
They've been a little crazy these past few days.

00:46:21
Those things they got into the house where the little girl

00:46:26
lived.

00:46:26
They got into the clinic.

00:46:28
You know we were doing pretty good there for a while keeping

00:46:31
everything together.

00:46:32
It was almost starting to feel like well, he takes off his

00:46:36
jacket and he started getting tremors in my hand a few weeks

00:46:40
back.

00:46:40
Same way it started with my dad , which means the clock is

00:46:44
officially ticking.

00:46:46
Speaker 2: I like this.

00:46:47
I like this because it really sets up the episode where they

00:46:51
bring her in.

00:46:52
Yeah, it really does.

00:46:54
I mean, they give it enough that you want to know exactly

00:46:58
what happens, but once you find out what happens it, it really

00:47:02
kind of makes this even more emotional.

00:47:06
Speaker 3: My question, though, is why is this place speeding up

00:47:11
the healing for Ethan while it's speeding up the

00:47:15
degeneration of Boyd?

00:47:19
Speaker 2: Well, who's to say that he has Parkinson's?

00:47:24
Speaker 3: I don't know what he has.

00:47:25
Speaker 2: No, but my point being is the same way, you know,

00:47:29
sarah's got the squirmies in her.

00:47:31
He could have something to put undue stress on him.

00:47:38
You know?

00:47:42
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

00:47:51
Speaker 3: That's just my question.

00:47:52
His crazy.

00:47:56
He has a crazy idea that might work and might be able to get

00:47:59
everyone home.

00:48:00
If he fails, then leaving everyone in a worse off position

00:48:04
.

00:48:04
But we don't know what this plan is.

00:48:06
Abby was always the one to make the hard calls.

00:48:09
If he can get them home, it's the biggest swing he can take.

00:48:13
He doesn't believe in signs, but asks for one from her

00:48:17
because he needs help.

00:48:19
So we're in another part of a clearing where there's standing

00:48:25
stones and it's a circle of standing stones in a field of

00:48:29
flowers.

00:48:29
Katri is sitting outside at his rock when Nathan approaches.

00:48:34
Katri asks, nathan asks if Nathan comes up here much, and

00:48:38
Nathan says no.

00:48:39
Khatri says strange, a place like this could exist in a place

00:48:44
like this, because it's peaceful, it's beautiful, you

00:48:48
know.

00:48:48
So Nathan asks what the rules are when it comes to confession.

00:48:53
If he tells Khatri something, does it stay between the two of

00:48:57
them?

00:48:57
Katri says that it stays between them and God.

00:49:01
But if it's really bad, nathan, but what if it's really bad?

00:49:05
Nathan asks, and we don't get that answer other than later.

00:49:09
We see them running, but now we're at the farm outside.

00:49:14
Sarah introduces Ethan to the animals by name.

00:49:17
Now we're at the farm outside.

00:49:19
Sarah introduces Ethan to the animals by name.

00:49:21
Tabitha and Ethan are enjoying themselves.

00:49:23
Sarah tells Tabitha that Ethan is a little sweetheart.

00:49:26
She's so insincere.

00:49:28
Speaker 2: Tabitha yeah, no, she's sincere, he is a

00:49:33
sweetheart, it's just that.

00:49:34
You know she's a very conflicted person.

00:49:37
Speaker 3: I know, but the way she says it.

00:49:40
Speaker 2: No, I get it.

00:49:40
No, I get it.

00:49:42
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:49:42
Maybe it's because I know what her intention with him is, but

00:49:47
the way she says it, it just rings hollow to me.

00:49:50
So Tabitha says that being sad and afraid is the one thing

00:49:56
everyone in the town agrees on.

00:49:58
Sarah says that this will quickly become normal.

00:50:01
Tabitha doesn't want it to become normal, she just wants to

00:50:04
go home.

00:50:05
Sarah says that at least they have the talismans.

00:50:09
Katri talks about how much worse it was for people after dark

00:50:13
hiding, hoping not to be found.

00:50:15
The hiding places are all over town and it's good to know about

00:50:19
them in case you get stuck outside after dark.

00:50:22
So this is her setting a trap for Tabitha.

00:50:26
Sarah says that there's one in the barn that she can show her.

00:50:29
Tabitha and Sarah go into the barn.

00:50:32
So we're back at the clearing.

00:50:36
At the the standing stones, katri jumps up saying that

00:50:40
nathan should have come to him much sooner.

00:50:42
Nathan is concerned that sarah will go in the box.

00:50:45
Katri intends to keep his word, but they need to worry about

00:50:49
the people of the town, right, um?

00:50:51
So they head to the diner.

00:50:53
I'm not exactly sure which word Katri is talking about.

00:50:58
Like promises Nathan that nothing will happen to Sarah?

00:51:03
Is that his word or just that you kill, you go into the box, I

00:51:08
don't know.

00:51:10
Speaker 2: Well, he wants it both ways, because he

00:51:12
contradicted himself.

00:51:13
He threw Frank in the box, yeah , but then he saved Sarah.

00:51:18
Speaker 3: So I mean you know like Well, yeah, box yeah, but

00:51:19
then he saved sarah.

00:51:19
So I mean you know like, well, yeah, few in the future.

00:51:21
Speaker 2: he saved sarah, but like no, but I'm just saying

00:51:24
like you know he does contradict himself.

00:51:26
Yeah I mean there's no.

00:51:28
I mean, I'm not saying that he's an awful person, it's just

00:51:30
no, he's not.

00:51:31
Speaker 3: I miss him.

00:51:32
So now we're back in the interior of the barn.

00:51:36
Sarah follows Tabitha into the barn.

00:51:38
Sarah leads Tabitha to a closet space in the back of the barn,

00:51:42
opens the door, pushes Tabitha in.

00:51:44
He, she locks the door and tells Tabitha that she's doing

00:51:48
this for her and all of them.

00:51:49
And then Tabitha begs to be let out.

00:51:53
Of course, right.

00:51:53
So she's banging Outside.

00:51:58
Katri and Nathan head toward the diner.

00:52:00
Boyd sees Katri and stops him, you know, just to have a chat.

00:52:04
Boyd holds up the boat key as he waves to Katri and then puts

00:52:07
it in his pocket.

00:52:08
He has a weird question for him .

00:52:11
If someone asked for a sign, how would they know what they

00:52:13
were looking for?

00:52:14
You know, katri doesn't really have time for that right now.

00:52:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not looking for philosophical,

00:52:20
religious questions right now.

00:52:22
Speaker 3: Right.

00:52:22
So now we're in the interior of the diner.

00:52:26
Nathan's looking for Sarah.

00:52:27
Tom is at the counter eating.

00:52:29
Nathan calls for Sarah.

00:52:31
Tom tells him that Sarah isn't there and that he saw her

00:52:35
heading to the barn with Tabitha and Ethan.

00:52:37
So now we're at the exterior.

00:52:40
Ethan is feeding the goats as Sarah comes out of the barn.

00:52:43
Ethan asks where his mom is.

00:52:45
Sarah kneels in front of him with her hands behind her back

00:52:49
and says she needs to tell him something.

00:52:52
I bet she does.

00:52:54
In the interior, tabitha is banging against the door and

00:53:00
calling for Sarah and Ethan.

00:53:01
No one's hearing her.

00:53:02
The exterior of the barn, sarah says she really likes him and

00:53:06
that's that.

00:53:07
What's about to happen is going to save everyone.

00:53:11
Just like one of your stories.

00:53:13
You get to be the hero.

00:53:14
She shows him the scalpel in her hand behind her back.

00:53:18
Oh, wait, a minute.

00:53:19
They show.

00:53:20
The show shows us that that it's behind in her hand, behind

00:53:23
her back.

00:53:24
Ethan asks where his mom is again and that he wants his mom.

00:53:27
She grabs his arm.

00:53:29
Nathan gets to the barn and calls her name and asks what

00:53:32
she's doing.

00:53:33
Sarah says this is how we go home.

00:53:36
As Nathan advances toward her, this is the last one, and then

00:53:41
everyone gets to go home.

00:53:44
So my question is do you think she killed anyone else besides

00:53:55
Toby?

00:53:55
And now the attempt on Ethan.

00:53:57
Do you think there was?

00:53:58
Speaker 2: probably.

00:53:59
I mean, but again, we have no backstory, so we don't know, we

00:54:05
don't know how long the squirrely things have been in

00:54:07
her arm yeah, um.

00:54:09
Speaker 3: So tabitha is screaming ethan's name from

00:54:12
inside the barn.

00:54:12
Ethan kicks Sarah's leg and runs.

00:54:15
Nathan tells Ethan to run.

00:54:17
Nathan comes up behind Sarah and wraps his arms around her.

00:54:22
Grabbing her arms.

00:54:23
She turns quickly and slices Nathan's neck and he starts

00:54:28
bleeding like he didn't stand a chance.

00:54:30
She realizes what she's done while Nathan dies in front of

00:54:34
her and collapses.

00:54:35
Katri approaches as Sarah cries .

00:54:37
Now we're at Colony House exterior.

00:54:42
Ellis, fatima, julie return from Brundle's.

00:54:44
Julie tells them that they're right, it's not all bad here.

00:54:48
Ethan comes running up the hill crying for Julie.

00:54:51
Julie tries to figure out what's wrong In the barn.

00:54:55
Tabitha hears the scream out in the barnyard Outside the barn.

00:55:00
Jim and other townspeople run toward the barn.

00:55:03
Jim calls Tabitha and Ethan's names.

00:55:05
Tabitha screams from inside the barn for someone to help her.

00:55:09
Jim gets to the barn and hears her and frees her.

00:55:12
She immediately asks for Ethan.

00:55:15
She comes out of the barn to townspeople standing around

00:55:19
watching what's happened.

00:55:20
Jim and Tabitha scream for Ethan.

00:55:23
Julie can be heard screaming for them in the distance as she

00:55:27
approaches.

00:55:28
Ellis and Fatima are with her and Ellis carries Ethan.

00:55:34
The family reunites.

00:55:35
Christy arrives and starts examining Nathan and concludes

00:55:40
that it's too late.

00:55:41
Boyd and she exchange glances.

00:55:44
Katri appears to come from the woods, looks at Boyd and shakes

00:55:48
his head.

00:55:48
No, boyd looks back at Sarah kneeling over Nathan.

00:55:52
Now we're on the exterior road in town.

00:55:57
Matthew's family walks back to their house.

00:55:59
Um, we're in the sheriff's office or at the sheriff's

00:56:09
office exterior.

00:56:10
Cotri tells boyd that he was too late.

00:56:13
Boydd stops the Matthews family as they pass, ask how Ethan is.

00:56:18
Jim tells Tabitha and the kids to go ahead.

00:56:21
They walk on.

00:56:22
Jim asks where Sarah is.

00:56:24
Katri says she ran off to the woods.

00:56:27
Jim and Boyd, if she comes back before dark then we'll handle

00:56:32
it, and if she doesn't if she doesn't then it's handled.

00:56:36
So he's alluding to the fact that the monsters will get her

00:56:41
and they won't have to do anything about that.

00:56:43
Jim says she came into my house .

00:56:47
She played with my kid.

00:56:49
Boyd and Katri try to calm him.

00:56:52
Jim, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

00:56:55
You talk like this place is fucking Mayberry, one big family

00:57:00
.

00:57:00
Is that what you said?

00:57:01
Are you fucking kidding me?

00:57:03
Boyd and Katri don't know what to say.

00:57:05
And then Jim walks away.

00:57:07
Jim, although he knows this place is wacky, he keeps

00:57:14
expecting a normal response that he would have gotten in the

00:57:19
outside world yeah, well, he's still.

00:57:21
Speaker 2: It's only been a couple of days in so right still

00:57:23
not acclimated.

00:57:25
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I don't know how anyone gets

00:57:28
acclimated if you're not victor, but look how long it's taken

00:57:31
him.

00:57:32
So inside the matthews living room, tabitha sits on the couch

00:57:37
hugging Ethan and soothing him.

00:57:38
Jim paces helplessly.

00:57:41
Tabitha asked Julie where she found him and Julie says that

00:57:45
they were just coming back.

00:57:47
He was running up the hill toward Colony House.

00:57:49
Jim tells her she did good.

00:57:51
Tabitha asked Julie to take Ethan upstairs and they go.

00:57:54
Tabitha gets a marker and writes on the wall Did we

00:57:59
survive the crash?

00:58:00
And I think, before all this nuttiness, it's not something

00:58:09
that she wanted to admit out loud.

00:58:12
Speaker 2: Right.

00:58:13
No, it's not what you want to talk about, but I mean, at this

00:58:16
point you have a hot second and maybe that's what it really is,

00:58:20
kind of thing.

00:58:21
Speaker 3: Sarah, asking her what she'd do to go home.

00:58:25
Boyd tells her that it's not her fault.

00:58:27
Christy says it was nice to hang out with Sarah and that

00:58:42
Sarah took the scalpel from the clinic and she feels responsible

00:58:44
for that.

00:58:44
Boyd tells her that she did not bring them there, nor did she

00:58:49
put the thoughts in Sarah's head , and that a few nights ago she

00:58:53
saved Ethan's life.

00:58:56
Before this is done so, give yourself some slack not that it

00:59:03
makes it okay, but sarah did kill her own brother.

00:59:07
It doesn't make everything okay , but it's not like she ended up

00:59:13
killing Ethan.

00:59:14
Anyway, boyd, he takes her hands and asks for a favor for

00:59:23
her to cut herself some slack.

00:59:25
Speaker 2: Right, exactly the jukebox starts playing.

00:59:28
Speaker 3: If I had a Boat by Lyle Lovett Boyd looks at the

00:59:31
jukebox and says that he just got his sign.

00:59:34
Now I don't know if you have the words printed out or if you

00:59:39
have them handy.

00:59:41
Speaker 2: I do Okay.

00:59:43
Speaker 3: So if we go down one, two, three, the fourth stanza,

00:59:52
it says the mystery masked man was smart.

00:59:55
He got himself a Tonto, because Tonto did the dirty work for

01:00:00
free.

01:00:01
But Tonto, he was smarter, and one day he said Kima Sabe, well,

01:00:07
kiss my ass, I bought a boat, I'm going out to sea.

01:00:10
There you go.

01:00:12
Speaker 2: What?

01:00:12
What do you think?

01:00:13
No, there you go what.

01:00:15
What do you think?

01:00:17
No, I mean, you know basically.

01:00:25
Speaker 3: You want me to go in?

01:00:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I don't care.

01:00:29
What do you think?

01:00:30
I really, at this point I have no idea.

01:00:32
Speaker 3: Okay.

01:00:32
So what I'm thinking is that the masked man is whatever

01:00:41
drives the town Like we don't know who that person is right,

01:00:46
but they get a tanto, meaning the people of the town to act

01:00:51
like they're puppets and do things that they wouldn't

01:00:56
necessarily normally do.

01:00:58
I don't think that Sarah would have been killing people, but if

01:01:06
they pull her strings, that's what she's going to do.

01:01:09
So that's what I think it is.

01:01:13
You know, especially when we go into second season and you know

01:01:17
, boyd ends up with Martin and doing you know what he does.

01:01:22
Speaker 2: Right.

01:01:25
Speaker 3: Then the next one, if you go down two more stanzas.

01:01:27
The sixth one.

01:01:28
It says and if I were like lightning, I wouldn't need no

01:01:32
sneakers.

01:01:32
I'd come and go wherever I would please and I'd scare him

01:01:37
by the shade tree and I'd scare him by the light pole, but I

01:01:41
would not scare my pony on my boat out on the sea.

01:01:44
So what that tells me is that there's a limit to this, that

01:01:53
whatever runs this place, that whatever runs this place, that

01:01:58
there's a limit, they won't go too far.

01:02:02
So they're doing their deeds and that's about it, I guess is

01:02:14
what I'm saying.

01:02:14
Speaker 2: Well, he's got a.

01:02:15
He feels that he's gotta get his boat or his plan and and go

01:02:22
and and go out to sea, whatever that means to him right now.

01:02:27
Speaker 3: Yeah I mean it just tells me they're all ponds yeah,

01:02:31
well they've.

01:02:33
Speaker 2: They've proven that in the second season and they've

01:02:35
proven that in the first season too.

01:02:37
Yeah, I mean it's just yeah, I mean it's just at this point in

01:02:46
the show there's so many questions.

01:02:48
Yeah, there's no deep dive in it, other than the fact that

01:02:53
we're still kind of waiting to figure it out.

01:02:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:02:59
Speaker 2: But do you have any other notes?

01:03:01
Speaker 3: No, that was it.

01:03:02
It was so far the most scenes we've had, but it was pretty

01:03:10
straightforward.

01:03:10
I mean, it was a matter of you know, christie making that

01:03:14
attack on Ethan, the Matthews family writing on the wall and

01:03:22
Tabitha asking the question did we survive the crash?

01:03:27
Speaker 2: Right.

01:03:31
Speaker 3: And Boyd, I don't know getting a sign from his

01:03:35
wife because this is his song you know they play the song in a

01:03:39
future episode but getting this sign that he's looking for so

01:03:43
he knows what to do.

01:03:44
So and then you know Katri telling Nathan I guess that you

01:03:56
know Sarah's not going to go in the box, but I don't know.

01:03:59
I mean, we know she doesn't, but I don't know how Khatri can

01:04:03
make Nathan that promise, given that they have a rule.

01:04:07
Speaker 2: I think he was just trying to appease them, just to

01:04:09
figure out what the hell was going on.

01:04:11
I mean, that's the only thing that I.

01:04:13
You know it was a lot of moving parts in that episode and I

01:04:19
think, I don't know, I'm a little confused.

01:04:25
I mean, I watched it a couple of times but I just I don't know

01:04:28
.

01:04:28
I know that's not what people want to hear right now, but I'm

01:04:32
just as confused as the listeners.

01:04:34
It's okay, anyway.

01:04:37
So, folks, next week we're going to be doing episode one

01:04:44
episode one season one, episode six, book 74.

01:04:49
And I think that's a really pivotal episode because it

01:04:52
really goes into father country's storyline, or his

01:04:57
backstory, and I just you know we get a lot of information

01:05:02
about him, which was nice and it was already in the sixth

01:05:06
episode.

01:05:07
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

01:05:10
I'm looking for a deeper dive into it, you know, so that we

01:05:16
can talk for two to three hours about it.

01:05:21
Speaker 2: And that's our show.

01:05:22
I'll see you next week.

01:05:23
Get your home, let's go, come on.

01:05:27
Get in your house, let's go, come on, thank you.